I'm impressed that he used the Audyssey calibration to make his process even more hands-off. I've done his Supreme Audyssey method a few times and after the 2nd or 3rd time it's easy to do but for people who don't want to buy a umik-1 or learn how to use REW this Audyssey One thing is great.
@@ReedBotwright My system sounds cleaner, more synergistic and coherent. Some sounds and effects also feel more tactile in the room. The bass seems better than standard Audyssey. I haven't felt the need to increase the trim level on my subs like I usually would have.
@@ReedBotwrightThe bass is simply the best part. With Audyssey I always get nulls and peaks in the bass that XT32 cannot compensate for at all. Some bass notes disappear while others are boomy. Never could get it to be good. With this script somehow the bass is not a problem anymore. All notes (frequencies) actually sound equal. I have no idea how this is done, but it is amazing!
I have a 5.1.4 system (RSL CG23-CG25-CG23 up front, CG3 Surrounds and SVS Prime Elevations as Front-Rear Heights with an SVS SB-3000 sub) in an open living room which can make calibration a challenge. Preset 1 on my Denon X3800 has my last MultiEQ-X results and the sound is pretty good. I did a new Audyssey MultiEQ run on my Android tablet and then let Audyssey One do its magic which I sent to Preset 2. I did instant A-B comparisons between the two setups using a number of very good audio demos like Ready Player One, Blade Runner 2049 and Godzilla vs Kong. As good as MultiEQ-X was, the Audyssey One sound was better. It was more immersive with more depth and my subwoofer sounded more integrated with the other speakers. OCA has done a terrific job with the Audyssey One/REW setup and it's certainly worth a try.
Very similar experience from me! Thanks for sharing! I love being able to tinker with MultEQ-X, but I couldn't achieve in hours and hours of tweaking the same results as OCA's script in the 5 extra minutes it took to process my Audyssey app calibration file. Glad you experienced the same gains! Any tweaks you did to your results, like change the crossovers, to the processed results?
@@ReedBotwrightThe difference in the expanded dimension of the sound stage after A1/REW did their magic was pretty apparent. I don't have overhead speakers so the four Prime Elevations carry the load and they had more presence than with MuItiEQ-X. I did change the crossovers to put all of the speakers within thier specified frequency ranges (the RSLs up front and the Prime Elevations at 80 and the CG3s at 100). Doing that never affected Audyssey's curves and OCA confirmed the same about A1/REW. I had the sub set at -23dbs and usually I always would lower that by a few dbs using the SVS app but so far I haven't felt the need to do that. That's how good the bass is and how well the sub is now blending in with the system. I'll probably try it and see if it blows up my walls 😄 The SB-3000 may be a sealed sub but with its 13" driver and an 800w amp it packs a real punch and its mid-bass is outstanding. OCA just put out v1.3 which I tried on Preset 1 but, in comparing it with v1.2 on Preset 2, I really couldn't hear a distinction. V1.3 does create a txt file of the log and downloads that along with the optimized ady file. It's a nice touch being able to cruise through the file to see what REW was doing.
Upgrading two surrounds (Definitive DM60s) and a new center (Definitive DM30, arrives today). Once I get everything setup speaker wise I will run a new Audyssey calibration and drive it through Audyssey One. Have all the code setup, now using Audyssey One Script 1.3, ready to go. Will let you know, but excited to see the results. Thank you for putting this together Reed, talking about pushing my calibration knowledge to the next level, happy days!!!!
Thank you... This has changed my $50,000 Home Theater to a $100,000 Dollar Home Theatre. I am ABSOLUTELY BLOWN AWAY!!!! I have been trying for the last 2 yrs calibrating with minidsp, aligning subs.... And what ever tweaks I could do with the remaining 18 speakers! Definitely give it a try you won't be disappointed your system will become Alive! 😊😊😊 OCA #RESPECT X 1000
Hi Reed, a quick few questions because I have a aligned sub curve with the minidsp using REW I actually disconnected it and ran them both via the amp following your steps. Did A1 do the alignment in A1? Or would connecting thr dsp back it fault the optimised Setup? Also I have no sound when selecting Flat🙄 for what ever reason just reference has sound. ... And did you level match your speakers to 75db once completed A1? Cheers Ned
@@nedkulic2164 No, I didn’t level match after A1. Although it only uses the stock Audyssey mic, I find the levels after A1 to be good. I have more subs than outputs on my Denon X6700 so I left my DSP alone and applied A1 using it. I have tried it with and without having EQ on my DSP, and prefer to disable EQ on my DSP and let A1 handle it.
Nice Video Reed! 1. Can the Audyssey One be setup to give a person even bass response in every chair or seat in a room? 2. Can the Audyssey One be setup to give a person even bass response in every chair even if you have three rows of seating? 3. Is the Audyssey One also compatible with and work on the Emotiva and Monoprice Home Theater Processors? 4. Is the Audyssey One also compatible with and work on Emotiva Receivers?
Thank you for sharing this! I just got back into to Home Theater and am starting to learn calibrating the speakers. I had done a simple calibration with the included Audyssey MULTEQ XT. The results were not that great. Then I found your UA-cam page and tried it again. The Audyssey one failed because my speakers have built in subs and I do not have a separate sub. I wired my subs in the speakers with the LFE cables and ran it once again. I was successful this time. After uploading the results it into the Denon, I did notice remarkable results but not still not the greatest. I am purchasing a calibration mic and will run it everything again through REW to compare the results. Will be interesting to see which comes out better.
Yes updated it this morning. Quick question I read you said you turned your bass up a few db afterwards. Did you do that on your trim inside avr or back or sub
@@Albeno94 For ease of access because I have the Dayton Audio DSP-408 running my subs and don't have the external volume control, I turned up the trim in the AVR. I use the "Subwoofer Levels" in the Audio settings instead of going to the Audyssey speaker levels.
Thx great. I have a question. why does my multeq editor app (for android) not work when i import file into this app , always show me “The specified file is not located in the device‘s local storage or is not a proper curve file."
Thanks for the great video. It was really fast though. I couldnt keep up with what to do. I have used Audyssey and REW before but that was way too fast to follow. It would be easier to follow if you slowed down and showed some of the users that are not so fluid on pc/macs. I have to keep rewinding and pausing then trying to work out what you have done and where you have done it.
Thanks for the feedback! I was trying to fit everything into 20 minutes, but I’ll certainly consider a more measured pace in the future! Thanks for the feedback!
@@adekunlebashiru9880 Sorry, I can't link to it in the comment but I have updated the video description to include the link. It's a Google Doc with a bunch of extra information too, including an easy to read transcript of the video. Check it out and let me know if it works for you!
Thanks for this, followed it and it worked great apart from not knowing the .ady file auto saved somewhere and uploading it back into the Audyssey app had a couple of issues but after reading the posts on here managed to sort. Can i ask is it ok afterwards to add some dB's to some of the speakers. My centre channel for instance needs a few more so the other speakers don't become too loud when there is action in a movie and also i had to trim the subwoofer slightly as i turned on DEQ afterwards, cheers
great video, I need to mess with this after doing a test, but a couple of quick questions. Did you disable midrange compensation & Audyssey EQ/volume in MultEQ app before you sent the ady file, and then us EQ or Volume after?
I leave the settings as is. A1 essentially overrides the entire original configuration. I enable DEQ but that can be set manually in your AVR anyways. You can put a curtain on your sub channel to minimize EQ in case you run an external DSP, but I don’t mind the EQ A1 applies.
You can let DEQ turned of that’s where u immediately see the impressive work it did by just calibrate it right. Further it recommend not to turn it on - just read at the end carefully the result logfile there will be anything you need to know or to do.
Thank you for putting this together! Your video gave me the confidence to give this a try. Does your tutorial change much with the new A1 - Evo? I'm very new to calibration and I find your video much easier to follow than Obsessive's. No knock on him, his work is amazing, but he goes very fast and as a beginner, I tend to get lost.
Is it essential to not adjust anything e.g. crossover or speakersize from the initial meassurement. I ask because as you can imagine I already have an adjusted meassurement. So do I have to meassure a new one or can I use my adjusted one?
Why not try both? I’ve talked to many who have made tweaks to their A1 pre- and post-calibration. In fact, my next project is to test my sub calibration with and without EQ through my sub DSP. The script is pretty flexible. And you can compare the two ADY files with different presets on your AVR or with different Audyssey app files sent to the AVR.
@@ReedBotwright ok I'll give it a try. Nothing to loose here. The most time needed is for initial the audyssey calibration, and not for "modding" it 😊👌🏼
Its to bad that this wont work on a Marantz SR7009, even though this AVR has MultiEQXT32. I guess you could use REW to take measurements, but since the MultiEQ editor wont support my unit you cant change anything without the editor. I think the editor supports the SR7011.
That's a shame. That's a decent unit, but I guess it doesn't have some of the networking features to let the app make changes to the AVR's configuration. Certainly give A-1 a try if/when you upgrade!
Thank you for the video. It fills some gaps which a newbie like me still has after watching the "official" Audessey One video, it seems to address advanced users. The part where you emulated the mesurement sounds is funny. 😂 One question about the mesurement itself: you measured all 8 points. Which strategy (which distances from 1st measure point) did you follow? The Audessey recommendation pictured in the app or did you choose a smaller box around the main listening point here? I am still insecure about how to choose the best measurement points strategy, there are so many different recommendations in the web) Thank you.
Glad you liked my goofiness! Good question about the measurement points. I have played with lots of techniques and reads tons on it. And most doesn’t seem to matter, especially with respect to the A1 results. The tolerances aren’t that granular, so I’ve given up on worrying too much about it. I even ran the “one position” technique where you just leave the mic in one spot for all 8 positions and didn’t really notice an improvement or difference. That being said, others have heard improvements for multiple positions in their home theatre by spreading out further and varying the height of the mic.
Click --> the ‘gear’ icon in iOS (or whatever icon applies to your operating system) ----> playback speed -----> select a slower rate. I do this all the time when watching instructional videos. Really helps
Sorry for the speed! Thanks for the suggestion to slow down the playback speed. I also suggest putting on the captions as they can clear things up. I’ll also look at putting chapters on the video so you can pause and flip through the video.
@@rex8200 Your time alignment for the subs in miniDSP will have to be for each other as a virtual sub. In other words, Audyssey One will treat them all as one sub in terms of time alignment. I have 7 subs aligned with a Dayton Audio DSP-408 and they sound great as one virtual sub with Audyssey One!
Hi Reed, thanks for the video. New SUB here :) WIll try this later this week. Question: Would this also be viable for Stereo listening? My setup today is Preset 1) Stereo, Preset 2) 5.1.4 (with some manual tweaks to the curves on both).
Sorry for the late reply! Yes, this has a great impact on stereo imaging and clarity. I play with upsampling and basic stereo, and A1 makes everything sound better! I’ve given up on separate presets because of A1!
@ReedBotwright NP, thanks for the reply. Yea, I have altered back and forth now for a while, and no matter how much I try to get the standard Audyssey calibration to sound as good (my ears have during the past 3 years got used to it and thought it was outstanding, I have a treat room as well) I have come to the conclusion that A1 is superior. Listen to this, after spending 1h with music in A1 mode, I switched back to my old Audyssey calibration, and the things that sounded so good with clarity and dynamics previously, now came forth as artifact in the silver lining, an unnatural sound best described as artificial. I mean, sure, I know what I want, and I like clarity, but the way A1 presents music, it all comes down to the speaker itself, and boy, do they shine now. Triangle Australe EZ. Thanks again, Reed. Oh, and movies are on a whole different level. OMG!! Take care. Br from Sweden.
I'll give this a try this weekend and compare if I have time. Your excitement certainly comes through and it's fun but ... ya ... wayyyy to fast .... ha ha .... maybe no coffee before you start production 😆
Ha! I'm actually not that fast-talking in real life. I sped it up a bit to fit it into 20 minutes (runs more like 28 mins when I remove the overclocking). Please feel free to pause and change the playback speed if it doesn't work for you. Also, we have a few online resources like a written walkthrough if you'd like an "offline" way of doing it. Also, check out our Facebook "Audyssey One Support" group for resources and plenty of people to help out with the process. Or just post your questions here! Good luck and let us know how it sounds for you!
That’s a great question! I’ve wondered that myself. In theory, the results spit out by A-1 are just high precision curves for use in Audyssey itself, put in there this way because the Audyssey mobile app doesn’t support importing curves, but I don’t see why it wouldn’t work with another device with PEQ/curve support. You might even be able to through it into Audyssey MultEQ-X in fact! I would suggest asking OCA on his video as he may have some suggestions on how to get this into, say, YPAO or the like.
Thanks for making this understandable 😊I run through the process today and it do indeed sound better. Only thing that's missing is some output from my rear Dolby Atmos speakers. How can I increase the level of them?
You can go into the Levels in the Audyssey manual configuration in your settings and change them to be louder. If you have an SPL meter or an SPL meter app on your phone, you can match them to a reference 75 dB of your main speakers. Many will do this across all of their speakers anyways, just to ensure the levels are all the same. You can do this by going into the levels and choosing one of your mains (usually the left) and turning up the volume until the SPL meter shows 75 db. Then match all of your other levels up or down based on that. Some will bump their subs for extra punch above 75, others choose their centre to be above 75 to have better vocal clarity in music and dialogue, while other take their heights above 75 to be more immersed. Be careful with boosting too much as it can both reduce your overall headroom (max volume) and break the balance with the rest of the speakers. Good luck and let me know how it worked!
I’ve used Dynamic EQ with A1 quite a bit. It’s very effective for low-volume bass boosting, just as with regular Audyssey. I do find that I use DEQ less overall because A1 integrates my subs better. So there that.
I want to try this today. I use the Apple eco system can I use Safari for this process or do I need to use Chrome? Also, will this approach work for a 5.2.0 system? Finally, does this approach work well for music listening? Thanks.
Safari doesn't seem to work with this script. We're not sure exactly why but all other major browsers (Chrome, Firefox, Edge) seem to work. I would use those instead. Also, some browsers will automatically put the results file (ADY file extension) into the Downloads location/section. If you can't find it right away, check there.
I originally assumed this was a method for using your own UMIK-1 mic and sweeps from within REW to then create curves to pass into the Audyssey app. Is that still a possible method?
Thanks for your video. I will appreciate if you could advise me on one thing. Do I need to tweak my Audssey file on my phone before importing it into REW? Or just use the raw file as it was created during calibration? During calibration, Audssey always detects my left and right towers as full range speakers.
As @hiramb7956 mentioned, you can usually leave the file as-is. The only thing you might want to do is either a) make changes to the curtain on the sub in the case where you have a DSP device like the miniDSP 2x4HD EQ-ing the multiple subs (but only if you don't want A1 to also apply its EQ), and/or b) double check the levels with an external SPL (which you can also change after pushing the optimized ADY to your receiver). Otherwise, I leave my optimized ADY as OCA intended it! :D
One question i have not seen asked on his videos concerning audessey one is...can you still use dyn volume when needed or because of all the adjustments, is it unusable?
Yes! The great thing about this being an official Audyssey file added to your AVR using an official Audyssey app is that all Audyssey features will work with it! Dynamic Volume, LFC, and Dynamic EQ all work great!
@@ReedBotwright the problem with that is Dynamic EQ makes adjustments based off a zero point. Since this script bakes in a house curve, you're not starting from zero, so you will quickly end up with too much bass. Normally you don't run both, so I'd be curious to hear from people who try it.
Thank you so much! Truly takes my system to another level. Just one question though, I’m new to this, I need more bass, can I turn up the subwoofers a few dBs? Will it mess up anything? EDIT: Found the answer from OCA, yes you can increase the SW level. You can also invert subwoofer polarity or use Dynamic Volume: Heavy.
Awesome! Glad you found the answer. Yeah, I find the Audyssey app does put the sub levels way down, so I turned it back up. And I love Dynamic EQ when I want a little extra thump, especially at lower volumes. Glad the script worked out for you!
Great question! I have a stereo and Atmos music playlist on Apple Music that I run through to benchmark the calibration. I also use the race scene in Ready Player One, the opening and other scenes in Dune Part One, the start of Edge of Tomorrow, and various Atmos/DTS demos on a thumb drive (OCA’s video has a link to a Google drive filled with various one but you can find them for free on various sites). I also really like the sound in Scott Pilgrim vs the World.
@@ReedBotwright What are your result with watching Edge of Tomorrow? I ask because currently, when I watch it, the 3rd bass drop is the loudest and the last bass drop is the quietest. Do you hear more of a level between tones or is that about accurate?
@@marcmolina9708 Which version do you have between streaming and UHD? If the former, that might be all the fidelity you get. If the latter, you might need some more tweaking to your subs. An admitted shortcoming of A1 is in the bass integration. Luckily, a new version of A1 is coming down the pipes with much better bass. Stay tuned!
@ReedBotwright oh, I guess I failed to mention more details. Streaming uhd on apple 4ktv. I have the Marantz Av7705, klipsch ref premier in a 5.2.4 setup and dual powersound 18 inch subs. I have not tried the A1 yet. I have only run audyssey with the multi xt32 app. So, already paid the 20 bucks, just need to set everything else up and give it a try.
I have put a list of supported AVRs in the video description. It is a list based on the receivers supported by the Audyssey MultEQ Editor app. Check there as well (Apple App Store or Google Play Store) for the supported AVRs.
Haven't done it yet ... but just thinking ahead .. what do you do if your also running your second sub output on the X6700h for transducers ( buttkickers ). I'm aware that if you enable the "2nd sub" for transducers after then it disables audyssey. And ... should I consider skipping the sub woofers all together, since I already have them ( 4 subs ) time aligned and gain matched as one sub using a miniDSP HD 4 ... or .... let this script play with it and see what happens ?
I have my 7 subs aligned similarly and I’m still working on integrating them. I just tried lowering the curtain on my sub output in the Audyssey MultEQ Editor app configuration on the optimized version before sending it to my AVR and that seemed to better preserve my DSP configuration. That’s one of the strategies Home Theater Gamer suggests for Audyssey. The other one I’m going to try is leave the time alignment on my DSP but disable my EQ, then run Audyssey and let it handle all EQ.
Thank you for this tutorial ! I just try it but facing this error as I have no subwoofer for the moment : 14:26:23 [INFO] Based on your AVR model - Denon AVC-X3700H, speed of sound has been set to 300.0 m/s for all distance calculations. 14:26:23 [WARNING] - if you believe this setting is not correct for your receiver model, please notify OCA! 14:26:23 [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************ 14:26:23 [ERROR] Error: Optimization will not work with systems with NO subwoofer! - program execution has stopped! Did you know how if there is a workaround ?
Yeah, you need at least one sub as the optimization is based integration with the sub(s). You might be able to bypass the requirement by making changes directly to the ADY file, but I don’t know the effectiveness of the results. Do you have a sub you can connect to your system?
hi Reed, thanks a lot for the clear guide to Audyssey One. I tried it last night and got everything loaded in ok. But the final optimization stopped and the log said [ERROR] Error: Speaker names have different numbers of indices. - program execution has stopped! Any suggestion or trouble shooting tip to get the optimization to run? Many thanks.
I've seen that error before and it is usually an environment setup issue and I don't know a fix to it. If you want to send me your original ADY file, I can take a look at it for you! My email is my full name (as in the one I use for this channel) at Gmail dot com. You can also look for me on Facebook. Let me know if you send it as I may have to check my Spam folder or Message Requests.
@@ReedBotwright Hi Reed, I did managed to get the original version of A1 to work, but the result was not very good. All the levels were significantly lowered and the cross-overs set at THX which really doesn't work well in my environment. I'll try A1 Evo and see if it's better, beats manually calibrating each speaker with a miniDSP UMIK-1 and REW. Thanks for the follow-up.
Hi there. I encountered a problem during the optimization stage. When I click the Start optimization button, nothing happens. I only see the line "transposing measurements from "8" different microphone positions to the prime position". Nothing further happens. All steps in your manual were completed successfully. What could be the problem?
Error fetching details in the script? Sounds like you don’t have your file moved correctly to your computer. Some people have to use Google Drive to get the ADY to their computer for the script to see it.
@@ReedBotwright thanks for the reply mate, found it.. i dint run tht API. Uploaded and its amazing 👏🏻👏🏻.. seems like the more closer to ref levels, its sounds great.
Please help. I processed for the newer a1 evo and it finished all the way except it didn't make a new ady file for me to send back. I only have a data file saved. Any sugestions?
Correct. Only the Denon and Marantz models that support the Audyssey mobile app. I’ve updated the video description to include the models, as gathered from the iOS app description in the Canadian App Store.
(Mac User) I'm still trying to figure out what happened on my end. I didn't see a new .ady file; it only downloaded a log file after running the "Start Optimization." I searched my system, and the only thing that came up after a search was my original .ady file. Any help is appreciated.
I couldn’t get to work on Mac. I’ve got boot camp on my Mac so switched to windows and worked straight away. Just watching return of the Jedi speeder bike scene as a trial and it’s worth the effort.
The script has a list of AVRs which have the wrong speed of sound and automatically corrects for that. No need to touch it. And in terms of the curtain, I found the results didn’t change the natural behaviour of my speakers above about 1000 Hz. I haven’t needed to do any tinkering with the optimized file.
I did it with the forcing option but it wasnt better - only what u have to do is to read and follow the log file recommended tasks. In my case I had to flip the phase.
I need to manually save in my android phone. But I can export in my multi eq app. It say wrong formation. And 1 of my friend did redo again and send me via email. From my email I can't save it. 🥲
Seems like since I did this my bass is weak, I had to revert back to my previous settings. maybe i will give it a shot again at another time. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that both my f18 subs are plugged into a mini dsp
I did have to crank my subs up about 5-7 dB, but actually found myself turning them back down again. I found the bass to be more natural and integrated with my system. I’m running 7 subs with the Dayton Audio DSP-408 on one sub out. The script seems to be fine calibrating virtual subs on the miniDSP.
Weirdly, the REW beta versions (at least the newest ones) are linked in this forum post: www.avnirvana.com/threads/rew-api-beta-releases.12981/ As discussed in the Facebook group thread, the new MAC beta should work, otherwise you may have to procure a previous beta version. It looks like OCA is wrestling with the API changing with beta releases so not all versions of the A1 script will necessarily work with all versions of the beta.
Can anyone help with this question pls? I understand you need REW software - is that free to download and do I need to perform any sweeps with a mic with REW (never attempted this before) or is that just used to apply the filters from Audyssey One?
REW is free although I do recommend getting the pro version once you start using it more, just to support the author. It is an amazing tool that is worth learning, but this script does a “headless” use of REW. You will have to set some settings and drag-and-drop your measurements into it, but none of the advanced features will be needed for this process.
REW is free but if you find it useful I suggest donating to John (the creator). He is very active and responds to input, even adding things I've requested.
Your miniDSP is still very useful! You may want to disable EQ in it and let A1 handle flattening it to the Toole curve. I have a Dayton Audio DSP-408 for my multiple subs and it worked quite well with A1, although I’m about to re-do my A1 with the 408’s EQ disabled to let A1 handle the duty. In other words, your miniDSP should be good with A1 in either case!
I'm getting the following error when trying to I hit "Start Optimization": 5:06:33 PM [ERROR] Error: Speaker names have different numbers of indices. - program execution has stopped! Has anyone seen this error? Thanks,
I've seen that error before and it is usually an environment setup issue and I don't know a fix to it. If you want to send me your original ADY file, I can take a look at it for you! My email is my full name (as in the one I use for this channel) at Gmail dot com. You can also look for me on Facebook. Let me know if you send it as I may have to check my Spam folder or Message Requests.
I just finished running the script but it never prompted me to save the ADY file after it finished! Not sure what happened. Is it possible to save the file manually? Well take that back. It turns out when I looked into my downloads folder the optimized ADY file was there! So airdropped the file from my mac to my phone and sent it to the receiver. I really like how it sounds but the graph shown in the iPhone app curves down up to -13db around 75htz. I thought the final graph should be fairly flat. Puzzled.
Glad you found the file! Yeah, some browsers not only automatically put the file in the Downloads section but some also Block the file. I ignore everything from the curves in the app. They have to look weird to get into your AVR correctly. Measure with REW/UMIK-1 after the calibration is applied.
@@ReedBotwright Thanks Reed. I am not familiar with REW and it looks very complicated! For now I just will continue to enjoy the new sound. It is really amazing. Running the A1 script actually made a much more noticeable improvement in my system than when I bought an EMOTIVA XPA-3 Gen 3 to drive my Martin Logan Motion 60XTi front stage. I guess not noticing a big improvement means how good the Marantz SR8015 is to begin with. THANK YOU for taking the time to create the UA-cam video. It was vital to my success and I am grateful to you and to OCA for writing it.
Hello, thanks for the content! I have a problem! I do everything exactly, but after turning on the server at the stage of pressing the "start optimization" button, nothing happens! I have already tried on a MacBook Pro and on a PC with Windows, the same result. Please help!!
@@ReedBotwright I use Google Chrome, progress stops at 23:30:42 [LOG] Transposing measurements from '8' different microphone positions to the primary listening position.... The only thing is when I add curves to REW a window pops up: Note that the default Mic/Meter and Soundcard Calibration files are not applied to imported impulse responses, to apply Cal Data to an imported response use the "Change cal" action on the teasurement panel.
@IRONWATER Did you up the max number of measurements in REW? Without changing their settings above the default 50 or so, not all of your measurements get imported in REW and A1 chokes up. If that’s not the case (as in you’ve already set that to 300 or so), feel free to email me you ADY file at reedbotwright @ gmail.com
Hi Reed ! I dont know whats happening with my results, but every time I run Audyssey one, the new curve makes the sound unlistenable... The sound gets so thin, unbalanced and uneven... The result is awful.
I have tried this 2 times with the same results. My cross overs are all set to 80 Hz and the overall volume is very low after the optimization. The crossover values on the amp and the editor app are the same, 80 Hz. I have a Denon X3700h which is on the list. The second time I spent a lot of time watching this video and the creators video to see if I missed something. It appears I am doing this correctly. When I open REW I get an audio interface error, it's about the sound card. It states there is a place to turn it off which I am having problems finding. I don't know if this is creating a problem. When listening in stereo I am using the preset that was calibrated by the amp itself because it sounds much better. I have tried to listen to the 2 different presents using the test files but it is difficult to determine because the output is so much lower on the Audyssey One preset. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks!
Yes, the script applies a minimum crossover of 80 Hz, although you can check the logs and set them lower (not recommended). The errors in REW are typcial and only indicate that you want to set up your sound card if you are using REW for other measurements. The errors don’t impact A1. The output may be quieter because the levels were set lower and/or the script cut a bunch of peaks during EQ. You may want to re-run your sweeps in the app and run the ADY against the script again. I had a mis-read in the app during one of my numerous runs that made one too height speakers extremely loud and the rest very quiet.
Thanks for the guide! I'm getting this error when I try to send the optimized file to the AVR - The specified file is not located in the device's local storage or is not a proper curve file. Help please.
Yeah, I helped someone else with the same problem. Getting the files to and from the Audyssey mobile app may be the toughest part of the whole process! 😁 How were the results?
I've been getting this error code "SW1 bass response is below target throughout the range! This error may indicate a buggy MultEQ Editor app version measuring extremely high subwoofer volumes. If that's the case you will need to install a different version of the app and repeat Audyssey." Any idea on what to do with this error or how to move forward? I tried setting my sub gain lower for a few different calibrations and still getting the same error. I have a feeling it has to do with the Audyssey app. Any help would be awesome. Thanks Reed!
I am having the same error but on C speaker. Have you figured out a solution to this yet? I have even tried the newest beta version of REW and still getting the same results.
Did either of you get through this error? I've seen that error before and it is usually an environment setup issue and I don't know a fix to it. If you want to send me your original ADY file, I can take a look at it for you! My email is my full name (as in the one I use for this channel) at Gmail dot com. You can also look for me on Facebook. Let me know if you send it as I may have to check my Spam folder or Message Requests.
@@ReedBotwright Thanks Reed. I'll shoot you over an email this weekend if I can. I've tried all sorts of settings and still no luck. I have a feeling it might be an issue with the multeq app itself. I'm on an iphone too so I can't go back to an older version.
@@ReedBotwrightI did have success finally and it was due to the MultiEq app and Android. Once I downgraded the app and redid the calibration everything went perfectly. Time to enjoy my system once again, so far sounding very good. Much more immersive and my subs are blending very nicely. Thank you so much for doing this video it was a huge help
Hello after apply start optimization I get this error : Error: Speaker names have different numbers of indices. - program execution has stopped! ( I stuck in this part 😢)My Denon is the X3800H the calibration was made with the Directional bass Feature due to I have 4 subwoofers
@@ReedBotwright I'm also getting this error. Do multiple subwoofers be set as standard when calibrating or is direct - left/right still ok? Any solution?
Anemic how? In terms of your subs? Make sure the script/Audyssey app didn’t set your fronts to Large and aren’t therefore bypassing your subs. I found did find that the time alignment improvements made everything more clear. This means that I might have to turn it up to a higher volume as a result, but I then find I can listen at higher SPL because the distortion/crosstalk isn’t making the sound fatiguing.
Unfortunately, there isn’t a way to use the Audyssey ACM1-X or miniDSP UMIK-1 with Audyssey One. It assumes you are using the standard Audyssey mic with the mobile app. At the same time, I have put its results directly against Audyssey MultEQ-X with both of these calibrated mics and it sounds better to me! (And takes a fraction of the time to set up in the case of using the UMIK-1.)
@@danmaier2077 Yes, but you won't achieve any gains from its calibration. From what I understand, the ACM1-X is just a regular Audyssey mic with highly accurate calibration file. OCA actually has a video on how to "generate" one of those for your regular Audyssey mic using REW and a UMIK-1. A1 has no way to use the better calibration though. I've heard of others looking into updating the A1 process to take advantage of the UMIK-1 and the ACM1-X, so stay tuned!
It’s the same one as the link to the PC version, namely linked from the HTML script itself. Be warned that OCA is dealing with some issues with newer beta releases of REW so only download the beta version you find in Audyssey One.
I don't see an option for API like you do. Is there anything extra I need to do to have it show? Its just not there for me. I've tried on both Mac and Windows.
Hi Reed, I saw your video on UA-cam regarding Audussey one hack & really enjoyed it & i was intrigued to try it out. unfortunately I found the end sound performance quite disappointing. I seem to have got a better result from my normal calibration using the Audyssey app. The Audyssey one hack set my front speakers at 110Hz, which has never happened before. I was just wondering if sent the the results of the Audyssey app/ hack results to you, would you kind enough to see if they look relatively normal? I am just getting in to exploring this extended type of calibration & must say i find it all very hard to understand, ie graphs of room correction results. I would like to know if you see anything out of the ordinary with my post Audyssey/hack results. Kind regards @ReedBotwright
Great! Yeah, I’ve sourced the beta and there is a link to the Mac version of REW on a forum somewhere, but version 21 is harder to find. If anyone else is reading this, let me know if you need the Mac REW beta 21!
@@ReedBotwrightWould love to know how/where to get the beta 21 version for the MacOS for A1 stopped with an error when I use the current beta for MacOS. Thanks in advance!
@@ReedBotwright I did it, and saved new ady file but when I tried to put it on Multeq editor app it says: "The specified file is not located in the devices local storage or is not a proper curve file"?
@@edindzk Oh, that old chestnut. That seems to be related to the location of the file. If you downloaded it to your device into the Downloads folder, this error usually goes away when you move the file to another location. Give that a try!
@@edindzk That's usually because the file is in your Downloads folder on your device. Try moving the file to another location, like the root, on your phone/tablet.
I'm sorry all this is not an easy process for the uninitiated! I got as far as trying to upload my Calibration file and it wouldn't upload. And nothing I did would change it so I couldn't run any calibration and I've never used REW before. I wish this process was explained at a reasonable speed and also a really micro step by step. It's just all sounds like it was written in a different language
@ReedBotwright Thank you going over it again slowly myself I understood it in the end! Thanks for your help I love the results. Cleaner, clearer detailed sound great 3d bubble of sound! Just bought Bushardt S400 mk 2 -speakers for LRC channels so sounds amazing!
@@ReedBotwright Yea, but I needed to reinstall with Revo Uninstaller before it showed up. There was also this error: "FR bass response is below target throughout the range!" Another reinstalls fixed that problem too. My system sounds wonderful now :)
Sorry, but I have to ask now: is Audessey One a big joke? - I have made a new Audessey messurement. Very careful. It sounds quite good in default state - Then I have processed the measurement with the Audessey One script, following the instructions. In my post 3 days ago I already wrote that the resulting curves look wierd to me. But nevertheless I uploaded them to my X-4800. - It sounded even worse than it looked. The LFE channel was practically disabled. Even bringing the crossover frequencies back to normal (A1 set fronts and center to all to 80Hz) an switching AutoEQ back to "on" (A1 set it to "off") did not bring much help. The sub still sounded weak and sick. This is so far away from even "acceptable", this must be bad by intention. So please confirm, I am almost sure: A1 is a joke, right? The theory already sounded implausible (some magical script brings every measurement for every setup to god level in 3 simple steps) and now practical experience confirms: It's a joke made for newbies like me, right? 😅 😅
Unfortunately, there appears to be a small minority of users who have mixed or poor results from this script. The foundations of how this script works are very sound. I don’t go into them a whole lot here as my focus is to help people through the process, but OCA does a better job in his video. You can also directly investigate the code to see what is happening. All that being said, it’s a hack. The script tries to take advantage of the processing power of REW and stuff its results into the Audyssey format (that’s why the curves look weird). It gets it very right a remarkable amount of time, but unfortunately not 100% of the time. I’m more than happy to troubleshoot with you why the script may not work for you because I have directly helped scores of people and heard their praise of the results. Just let me know! It’s definitely not a joke!
@@ReedBotwright sorry for late reply, Reed. I was very frustrated when I wrote this 🫣 Some thought why it might have failed for me: - Closed, but very powerful sub (ELAC 3070) - Position not very good (rear area, midst between the rear speakers of a 7.1.2 setup - Partially optimized living room 4x6m, not a home cinema room 4 passive bass traps, 2 active bass traps (PSI AVAA) - Antimode 8033 s-lI in LFE line - LFE line partially wireless (delay?) even though the sub is only 2,5 meters away, Audessey XT32 always use the highest distance value possible. I have now eliminated many of these possible obstacles. I purchased a NUBERT XW-900 medium size open downfire sub with is small enough to fit between my front speakers (the ELAC was to gigantic for this). Wired connection, but still with Antimode (in this room, I cannot go without it) First test shows/hears an improvement compared to "before" even without A1. As soon as I have finishes initial setup with XT32, I will give A1 a 2nd chance and tell you the results. Thanks and CU later, Celsi
@@celsi5563 Thanks for the update! Yeah, we all have challenges in our setups. I have a livingroom setup too. Have you tried the new A1 Evo v1.4? It was released yesterday. It requires REW Beta 33, so keep that in mind.
@@ReedBotwright New Feedback: - Bought a new Sub (NUBERT XW-900, bass reflex, downfire, smaller size, significantly less powerful than my former, closed ELAC 3070). This smaller sub fits into the front next to the main front speakers (NUBERT 284) where sub belongs. Antimode 8033 s2 is still in use, but now LFE line is completely wired, no RF anymore. I made a new Antimode messurement, then a new Audessey meassurement and ran it through A1. Despite having read your comment about new A1evo, I used 1.3. There was an update for 1.3 one week ago, and I thought this was "evo". When I realized it wasn't, it was too late 🙂 Still, even 1.3 seems to like my new setup better now than the old one. First it sounded "terrible" again regarding the bass, but after I adjusted the crossovers back to the values which the Audessey meassurement had initially set (A1 set them all to 80Hz) and reactivated DynamicEQ (A1 deactivated it), it sounded quite good. ❔But question: is it a good idea to reverse these decisions of A1? My thought is: if I change "optimized" settings in such a drastic way, does the optimization itself still make sense? I now try to put into words which changes I noticed between standard meassurement (before) and A1 meassurement (after): - Clarity of speech has improved (very important for me, because I watch everything in EN but it is not my native language, I need to listen very careful - low freqencies were a little bit reduced. Explosions, shots, spaceship flyby sounds, all seemed to be less "grumbling" than before, less powerful. I could "fix" this with increasing LFE channel in the AVR by 2db. - Surround effects have significantly increased. The feeling of being in the middle of the action has improved. Side surround speakers and rear speakers (7.1.2 setup) are far more active than before. Is that what is to be expected from A1? I read so many happy comments about A1 having improved the sound significantly, but nobody was going into details what exactly has improved, compared to "before". Thank you for your time and patience with a beginner. P. S. After some more testing: In 3 of my 5 usual test scenarios I like the A1 calibration better than the standard calibration: - THE EXPANSE, S02E01, 1st scene, starship flyby and 2nd scene Bobby Draper battle training on Mars Later, fight between Amos and Miller in the canteen of Rocinante - THE 5th ELEMENT, main menue background sound effects - SONS OF ANARCHY S06E05: Club house explosion - INTERSTELLAR rocket lauch is still to do, for this I need to wait until my neighbors have left the house 😄 But the A1 calibration does not seem to be suitable for Music, can anybody confirm this? Sounds terrible, sounds "sqished", like mash (I hope these words make any sense in EN)
I ran this and stored it in my secondary profile on my AV40. For some reason it sounds a bit thinner and to my ears not as good as the unaltered AVR auto calibration. I have been having some issues with dialogue in movies so I was hoping this would help, but neither profile is great for dialogue.
Did you download the latest one (version 1.3X) from OCA’s video? The newest version addresses some bass issues that others have had. I’ve also had to bump my bass in the levels up 3-5 dB with every version since 1.2.
How so? I talk to people in these comments, on forums, on several Facebook groups about their experiences with A1. I even set up a Facebook group specifically to help users. Yes, some struggle with the technical aspects of setting up and using the A1 script. No one I've talked to has expressed that A1 has "messed up" their systems. Worst case scenario, people can send the original ADY file back to their receiver for the pre-A1 calibration. The majority of the users I've spoken to have been blown away by the tweaks by OCA as much as I have. Do you have evidence to back up your claims?
There are some technical challenges for a minority of user, varying from file movement and locking issues to a known issue with people who didn’t have centre speakers or subwoofers. Others had issues using Direction Mode for subs on the newer Denon/Marantz. Almost all of these are solved, and the results are even better, on the new Evo version!
I beg you, remount your TV. That is ridiculous placement. You're viewing from extreme off angle and killing your picture quality. This is not debatable, it needs to be fixed.
Ha! Thanks for the advice but it looks amazing. The TV is cantered forward and the LG C1’s OLED is more than clear in the MLP and the rest of the room. Did you try the script? How did it sound?
@@ReedBotwright I haven't tried it yet. So there's no exception to off angle viewing- It degrades picture quality 100% of the time. Your head should be dead center of the screen in your seating position. Why did you mount it like that? Was that so you could have your center channel at your level? Not sure what your situation is but if you have a narrow seating arrangement or single seat MLP, a properly set up phantom center channel will utterly destroy any dedicated center channel. I get that you have to make compromises when setting things up but if I were you, I would lower that TV a lot. It's a nice TV and you're not getting what you should out of it. Find a good compromise between center channel height and TV height- rather than doing an extreme position on one or the other. Have a good one!
@@l.s.1709 The couch is quite reclined so the angle is not an issue. Never been an issue with fatigue or strain. I've had it up there to protect against the kids for 7 years now. And it's in daily use. I'd recommend it to others! 😀
gave this a quick try with an old ADY file I had from last June, thought I followed it pretty well, but I got an odd (to me) error (I see 12 channels worth of info in the ZIP file 7.1.4 = 12): 5:53:08 PM [INFO] Based on your AVR model - Denon AVR-X4700H, speed of sound has been set to 300.0 m/s for all distance calculations. 5:53:08 PM [WARNING] - if you believe this setting is not correct for your receiver model, please notify OCA! 5:53:08 PM [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************ 5:53:09 PM [LOG] Applying Target Curve located @ C:\Users\steve\Documents\Home Theater Doc\Calibrations and Info\OCAs ADY changes\DrTooleTargetCurve.txt 5:53:09 PM [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************ 5:53:09 PM [ERROR] Error: Number of channels mismatch! - program execution has stopped!
@@ReedBotwright Looks like the first time I dropped the extracted items into the EQ panel of REW and note the main screen... so looks like I have a new ADY to try: 4:40:06 PM [LOG] 'AUDYSSEY ONE' optimization has been completed with SUCCESS in 87.840 seconds! 4:40:06 PM [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************ 4:40:06 PM [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************ 4:40:06 PM [INFO] When prompted, save the .ady file to your PC and send it 'as is' to your MultEQ Editor app. 4:40:06 PM [INFO] Next, transfer it 'as is' from the app to your AV receiver as you normally would. 4:40:06 PM [INFO] The Editor app graphs will no longer represent final speaker responses due to the special filtering technique implemented. 4:40:06 PM [INFO] Speaker responses with 'final' indices under REW / All SPL tab are your expected post-calibration responses. 4:40:06 PM [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************ 4:40:06 PM [INFO] UA-cam video (ua-cam.com/video/iU1ZBsru76M/v-deo.html) contains a download link for several Dolby Atmos & DTS-X test clips 4:40:06 PM [INFO] compatible for playback via a USB key on your Blu-ray player for testing. 4:40:06 PM [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************ 4:40:06 PM [INFO] Enjoy your new sound!
The one thing that Audyssey One just like other room correction software doesn't solve is the fact that you are stuck having to use a generic target curve for your particular room and speakers. Every room is different and you need a correction software that can create the target curve for your room and speakers based on your room acoustics and characteristics. This is where True Target shines and delivers. True Target has taken my home theater to a whole new level.
I'm impressed that he used the Audyssey calibration to make his process even more hands-off. I've done his Supreme Audyssey method a few times and after the 2nd or 3rd time it's easy to do but for people who don't want to buy a umik-1 or learn how to use REW this Audyssey One thing is great.
So convenient! I haven’t done his other tutorials but I did do HD MOVIE SOURCE’s REW/UMIK-1 one with MultEQ-X. This is so much simpler and slick!
Have just completed this process after watching OCA's original video last week and uploaded the optimised file to my AVR. The results are awesome.
Glad to hear! Mine too. What’s your favourite part? I like how well the bass is integrated but it also seems much more clear.
@@ReedBotwright My system sounds cleaner, more synergistic and coherent. Some sounds and effects also feel more tactile in the room.
The bass seems better than standard Audyssey. I haven't felt the need to increase the trim level on my subs like I usually would have.
@@ReedBotwrightThe bass is simply the best part. With Audyssey I always get nulls and peaks in the bass that XT32 cannot compensate for at all. Some bass notes disappear while others are boomy. Never could get it to be good. With this script somehow the bass is not a problem anymore. All notes (frequencies) actually sound equal. I have no idea how this is done, but it is amazing!
I have a 5.1.4 system (RSL CG23-CG25-CG23 up front, CG3 Surrounds and SVS Prime Elevations as Front-Rear Heights with an SVS SB-3000 sub) in an open living room which can make calibration a challenge. Preset 1 on my Denon X3800 has my last MultiEQ-X results and the sound is pretty good. I did a new Audyssey MultiEQ run on my Android tablet and then let Audyssey One do its magic which I sent to Preset 2. I did instant A-B comparisons between the two setups using a number of very good audio demos like Ready Player One, Blade Runner 2049 and Godzilla vs Kong. As good as MultiEQ-X was, the Audyssey One sound was better. It was more immersive with more depth and my subwoofer sounded more integrated with the other speakers. OCA has done a terrific job with the Audyssey One/REW setup and it's certainly worth a try.
Very similar experience from me! Thanks for sharing! I love being able to tinker with MultEQ-X, but I couldn't achieve in hours and hours of tweaking the same results as OCA's script in the 5 extra minutes it took to process my Audyssey app calibration file. Glad you experienced the same gains! Any tweaks you did to your results, like change the crossovers, to the processed results?
@@ReedBotwrightThe difference in the expanded dimension of the sound stage after A1/REW did their magic was pretty apparent. I don't have overhead speakers so the four Prime Elevations carry the load and they had more presence than with MuItiEQ-X. I did change the crossovers to put all of the speakers within thier specified frequency ranges (the RSLs up front and the Prime Elevations at 80 and the CG3s at 100). Doing that never affected Audyssey's curves and OCA confirmed the same about A1/REW. I had the sub set at -23dbs and usually I always would lower that by a few dbs using the SVS app but so far I haven't felt the need to do that. That's how good the bass is and how well the sub is now blending in with the system. I'll probably try it and see if it blows up my walls 😄 The SB-3000 may be a sealed sub but with its 13" driver and an 800w amp it packs a real punch and its mid-bass is outstanding. OCA just put out v1.3 which I tried on Preset 1 but, in comparing it with v1.2 on Preset 2, I really couldn't hear a distinction. V1.3 does create a txt file of the log and downloads that along with the optimized ady file. It's a nice touch being able to cruise through the file to see what REW was doing.
Thank you, hopefully I try this over the weekend.
So your Reed, have followed you and Chris’s posts in Audyssey Tech Talk. Thanks for putting this together Reed, very helpful.
Thanks! OCA’s script is amazing! How did it turn out for you?
@@ReedBotwright in flight, will let you know.
Upgrading two surrounds (Definitive DM60s) and a new center (Definitive DM30, arrives today). Once I get everything setup speaker wise I will run a new Audyssey calibration and drive it through Audyssey One. Have all the code setup, now using Audyssey One Script 1.3, ready to go. Will let you know, but excited to see the results. Thank you for putting this together Reed, talking about pushing my calibration knowledge to the next level, happy days!!!!
Thank you...
This has changed my $50,000 Home Theater to a $100,000 Dollar Home Theatre.
I am ABSOLUTELY BLOWN AWAY!!!!
I have been trying for the last 2 yrs calibrating with minidsp, aligning subs.... And what ever tweaks I could do with the remaining 18 speakers!
Definitely give it a try you won't be disappointed your system will become Alive! 😊😊😊
OCA #RESPECT X 1000
So great to hear! I only have a humble $5,000 system but I wholeheartedly agree. Such an astounding improvement. Thanks for sharing! OCA is a god!
Hi Reed, a quick few questions because I have a aligned sub curve with the minidsp using REW I actually disconnected it and ran them both via the amp following your steps. Did A1 do the alignment in A1? Or would connecting thr dsp back it fault the optimised Setup? Also I have no sound when selecting Flat🙄 for what ever reason just reference has sound. ... And did you level match your speakers to 75db once completed A1? Cheers Ned
@@nedkulic2164 No, I didn’t level match after A1. Although it only uses the stock Audyssey mic, I find the levels after A1 to be good.
I have more subs than outputs on my Denon X6700 so I left my DSP alone and applied A1 using it. I have tried it with and without having EQ on my DSP, and prefer to disable EQ on my DSP and let A1 handle it.
@@nedkulic2164 Flat after A1 is set to be without any EQ. You shouldn’t hear no sound, but the effects of A1 should be removed.
50.000$ without Dirac already? 😅
Nice Video Reed!
1. Can the Audyssey One be setup to give a person even bass response in every chair or seat in a room?
2. Can the Audyssey One be setup to give a person even bass response in every chair even if you have three rows of seating?
3. Is the Audyssey One also compatible with and work on the Emotiva and Monoprice Home Theater Processors?
4. Is the Audyssey One also compatible with and work on Emotiva Receivers?
Thank you for sharing this! I just got back into to Home Theater and am starting to learn calibrating the speakers. I had done a simple calibration with the included Audyssey MULTEQ XT. The results were not that great. Then I found your UA-cam page and tried it again. The Audyssey one failed because my speakers have built in subs and I do not have a separate sub. I wired my subs in the speakers with the LFE cables and ran it once again. I was successful this time. After uploading the results it into the Denon, I did notice remarkable results but not still not the greatest. I am purchasing a calibration mic and will run it everything again through REW to compare the results. Will be interesting to see which comes out better.
Definitely let me know how it compares. The newer version is coming out soon, which may help with your subwoofer situation.
When you say your speakers have built in subs, are they powered? Also, what exactly do you mean you wired the subs with the LFE cables?
@@davidcrandon2329 Yes they are powered Speakers. They have an LFE on each speaker to wire sub into sub out in AVR
Great job. Should you level match speakers after complete or leave speaker level settings as is
Do you prefer Audyssey One or A1-Evo?
My system sounds so much better! Big difference. Reed thank you!
All credit goes to OCA! He’s the man!
This is so so so good
Glad you enjoy! OCA just launched version 1.3. You should check it out!
Yes updated it this morning. Quick question I read you said you turned your bass up a few db afterwards. Did you do that on your trim inside avr or back or sub
@@Albeno94 For ease of access because I have the Dayton Audio DSP-408 running my subs and don't have the external volume control, I turned up the trim in the AVR. I use the "Subwoofer Levels" in the Audio settings instead of going to the Audyssey speaker levels.
Thx great. I have a question. why does my multeq editor app (for android) not work when i import file into this app , always show me “The specified file is not located in the device‘s local storage or is not a proper curve file."
Thanks for the great video. It was really fast though. I couldnt keep up with what to do. I have used Audyssey and REW before but that was way too fast to follow. It would be easier to follow if you slowed down and showed some of the users that are not so fluid on pc/macs. I have to keep rewinding and pausing then trying to work out what you have done and where you have done it.
Thanks for the feedback! I was trying to fit everything into 20 minutes, but I’ll certainly consider a more measured pace in the future! Thanks for the feedback!
@@ReedBotwright Your Welcome. Great Video and I look forward to trying it over the weekend Thanks 🙂
@@ReedBotwrightcan you create a step by step instructions we could print and use? I would love to try this but right now it seems really complicated.
Step by step instruction that can be printed will be much appreciated sir.
@@adekunlebashiru9880 Sorry, I can't link to it in the comment but I have updated the video description to include the link. It's a Google Doc with a bunch of extra information too, including an easy to read transcript of the video. Check it out and let me know if it works for you!
Thank you so much you're the best, you got a new subscriber
Thanks! You got the script going? How were the results?
@@ReedBotwright sound much better now for the standard bass option on my Denon X3800H, thanks
Thanks for this, followed it and it worked great apart from not knowing the .ady file auto saved somewhere and uploading it back into the Audyssey app had a couple of issues but after reading the posts on here managed to sort. Can i ask is it ok afterwards to add some dB's to some of the speakers. My centre channel for instance needs a few more so the other speakers don't become too loud when there is action in a movie and also i had to trim the subwoofer slightly as i turned on DEQ afterwards, cheers
great video, I need to mess with this after doing a test, but a couple of quick questions. Did you disable midrange compensation & Audyssey EQ/volume in MultEQ app before you sent the ady file, and then us EQ or Volume after?
I leave the settings as is. A1 essentially overrides the entire original configuration. I enable DEQ but that can be set manually in your AVR anyways. You can put a curtain on your sub channel to minimize EQ in case you run an external DSP, but I don’t mind the EQ A1 applies.
You can let DEQ turned of that’s where u immediately see the impressive work it did by just calibrate it right. Further it recommend not to turn it on - just read at the end carefully the result logfile there will be anything you need to know or to do.
Thank you for putting this together! Your video gave me the confidence to give this a try. Does your tutorial change much with the new A1 - Evo? I'm very new to calibration and I find your video much easier to follow than Obsessive's. No knock on him, his work is amazing, but he goes very fast and as a beginner, I tend to get lost.
Is it essential to not adjust anything e.g. crossover or speakersize from the initial meassurement.
I ask because as you can imagine I already have an adjusted meassurement.
So do I have to meassure a new one or can I use my adjusted one?
Why not try both? I’ve talked to many who have made tweaks to their A1 pre- and post-calibration. In fact, my next project is to test my sub calibration with and without EQ through my sub DSP. The script is pretty flexible. And you can compare the two ADY files with different presets on your AVR or with different Audyssey app files sent to the AVR.
@@ReedBotwright ok I'll give it a try. Nothing to loose here. The most time needed is for initial the audyssey calibration, and not for "modding" it 😊👌🏼
@ReedBotwright Thank you!! Does it matter what the 'Target type' drop down is set to in the Target Settings of the EQ window in REW?
Its to bad that this wont work on a Marantz SR7009, even though this AVR has MultiEQXT32. I guess you could use REW to take measurements, but since the MultiEQ editor wont support my unit you cant change anything without the editor. I think the editor supports the SR7011.
That's a shame. That's a decent unit, but I guess it doesn't have some of the networking features to let the app make changes to the AVR's configuration. Certainly give A-1 a try if/when you upgrade!
I certainly will try it when the time comes to upgrade!@@ReedBotwright
Thank you for the video. It fills some gaps which a newbie like me still has after watching the "official" Audessey One video, it seems to address advanced users.
The part where you emulated the mesurement sounds is funny. 😂
One question about the mesurement itself: you measured all 8 points. Which strategy (which distances from 1st measure point) did you follow? The Audessey recommendation pictured in the app or did you choose a smaller box around the main listening point here? I am still insecure about how to choose the best measurement points strategy, there are so many different recommendations in the web)
Thank you.
Glad you liked my goofiness! Good question about the measurement points. I have played with lots of techniques and reads tons on it. And most doesn’t seem to matter, especially with respect to the A1 results. The tolerances aren’t that granular, so I’ve given up on worrying too much about it. I even ran the “one position” technique where you just leave the mic in one spot for all 8 positions and didn’t really notice an improvement or difference. That being said, others have heard improvements for multiple positions in their home theatre by spreading out further and varying the height of the mic.
Very interesting, but for an older man like me, you're going far too fast, got lost after few minutes😢:
Too fast for me, I know a bit about Audyssey and REW and PCs but I was totally lost.
Click --> the ‘gear’ icon in
iOS (or whatever icon applies to your operating system) ----> playback speed -----> select a slower rate.
I do this all the time when watching instructional videos. Really helps
I have dual subs with time alignment using minidsp hd. Will this process mess with my calibration? If so is there a way for it to ignore the subs?
Sorry for the speed! Thanks for the suggestion to slow down the playback speed. I also suggest putting on the captions as they can clear things up. I’ll also look at putting chapters on the video so you can pause and flip through the video.
@@rex8200 Your time alignment for the subs in miniDSP will have to be for each other as a virtual sub. In other words, Audyssey One will treat them all as one sub in terms of time alignment. I have 7 subs aligned with a Dayton Audio DSP-408 and they sound great as one virtual sub with Audyssey One!
Hi Reed, thanks for the video. New SUB here :) WIll try this later this week.
Question: Would this also be viable for Stereo listening? My setup today is Preset 1) Stereo, Preset 2) 5.1.4 (with some manual tweaks to the curves on both).
Sorry for the late reply! Yes, this has a great impact on stereo imaging and clarity. I play with upsampling and basic stereo, and A1 makes everything sound better! I’ve given up on separate presets because of A1!
@ReedBotwright NP, thanks for the reply. Yea, I have altered back and forth now for a while, and no matter how much I try to get the standard Audyssey calibration to sound as good (my ears have during the past 3 years got used to it and thought it was outstanding, I have a treat room as well) I have come to the conclusion that A1 is superior. Listen to this, after spending 1h with music in A1 mode, I switched back to my old Audyssey calibration, and the things that sounded so good with clarity and dynamics previously, now came forth as artifact in the silver lining, an unnatural sound best described as artificial. I mean, sure, I know what I want, and I like clarity, but the way A1 presents music, it all comes down to the speaker itself, and boy, do they shine now. Triangle Australe EZ. Thanks again, Reed. Oh, and movies are on a whole different level. OMG!! Take care. Br from Sweden.
Martin, you should check out the new Evo version! It will blow you mind again!
@@ReedBotwright ohh.. thanks for the info 🎉
I'll give this a try this weekend and compare if I have time. Your excitement certainly comes through and it's fun but ... ya ... wayyyy to fast .... ha ha .... maybe no coffee before you start production 😆
Ha! I'm actually not that fast-talking in real life. I sped it up a bit to fit it into 20 minutes (runs more like 28 mins when I remove the overclocking). Please feel free to pause and change the playback speed if it doesn't work for you. Also, we have a few online resources like a written walkthrough if you'd like an "offline" way of doing it. Also, check out our Facebook "Audyssey One Support" group for resources and plenty of people to help out with the process. Or just post your questions here! Good luck and let us know how it sounds for you!
@@ReedBotwrightI had slowed playback to 75% when I found it too fast, and you sounded perfectly normal!
Buddy the problem is that it calibrate only until 250 hz and not all the speaker why???? 😢😢😢
Any reason why this cannot be done on other AVRs if their room correction software spits out text files too?
That’s a great question! I’ve wondered that myself. In theory, the results spit out by A-1 are just high precision curves for use in Audyssey itself, put in there this way because the Audyssey mobile app doesn’t support importing curves, but I don’t see why it wouldn’t work with another device with PEQ/curve support. You might even be able to through it into Audyssey MultEQ-X in fact! I would suggest asking OCA on his video as he may have some suggestions on how to get this into, say, YPAO or the like.
Thanks for making this understandable 😊I run through the process today and it do indeed sound better.
Only thing that's missing is some output from my rear Dolby Atmos speakers.
How can I increase the level of them?
You can go into the Levels in the Audyssey manual configuration in your settings and change them to be louder. If you have an SPL meter or an SPL meter app on your phone, you can match them to a reference 75 dB of your main speakers. Many will do this across all of their speakers anyways, just to ensure the levels are all the same. You can do this by going into the levels and choosing one of your mains (usually the left) and turning up the volume until the SPL meter shows 75 db. Then match all of your other levels up or down based on that. Some will bump their subs for extra punch above 75, others choose their centre to be above 75 to have better vocal clarity in music and dialogue, while other take their heights above 75 to be more immersed. Be careful with boosting too much as it can both reduce your overall headroom (max volume) and break the balance with the rest of the speakers.
Good luck and let me know how it worked!
Brilliant, but I'd love to hear from Dynamic EQ users if you can get on with this since it has a house curve baked in.
I’ve used Dynamic EQ with A1 quite a bit. It’s very effective for low-volume bass boosting, just as with regular Audyssey. I do find that I use DEQ less overall because A1 integrates my subs better. So there that.
I want to try this today. I use the Apple eco system can I use Safari for this process or do I need to use Chrome? Also, will this approach work for a 5.2.0 system? Finally, does this approach work well for music listening? Thanks.
Safari doesn't seem to work with this script. We're not sure exactly why but all other major browsers (Chrome, Firefox, Edge) seem to work. I would use those instead. Also, some browsers will automatically put the results file (ADY file extension) into the Downloads location/section. If you can't find it right away, check there.
I originally assumed this was a method for using your own UMIK-1 mic and sweeps from within REW to then create curves to pass into the Audyssey app. Is that still a possible method?
Thanks for your video. I will appreciate if you could advise me on one thing. Do I need to tweak my Audssey file on my phone before importing it into REW? Or just use the raw file as it was created during calibration? During calibration, Audssey always detects my left and right towers as full range speakers.
just use the raw file as is. Audyssey One will modify volume and x-overs
As @hiramb7956 mentioned, you can usually leave the file as-is. The only thing you might want to do is either a) make changes to the curtain on the sub in the case where you have a DSP device like the miniDSP 2x4HD EQ-ing the multiple subs (but only if you don't want A1 to also apply its EQ), and/or b) double check the levels with an external SPL (which you can also change after pushing the optimized ADY to your receiver). Otherwise, I leave my optimized ADY as OCA intended it! :D
One question i have not seen asked on his videos concerning audessey one is...can you still use dyn volume when needed or because of all the adjustments, is it unusable?
You can still use that as well as Dyn EQ etc.
Yes! The great thing about this being an official Audyssey file added to your AVR using an official Audyssey app is that all Audyssey features will work with it! Dynamic Volume, LFC, and Dynamic EQ all work great!
@@ReedBotwright the problem with that is Dynamic EQ makes adjustments based off a zero point. Since this script bakes in a house curve, you're not starting from zero, so you will quickly end up with too much bass. Normally you don't run both, so I'd be curious to hear from people who try it.
Thank you so much! Truly takes my system to another level. Just one question though, I’m new to this, I need more bass, can I turn up the subwoofers a few dBs? Will it mess up anything? EDIT: Found the answer from OCA, yes you can increase the SW level. You can also invert subwoofer polarity or use Dynamic Volume: Heavy.
Awesome! Glad you found the answer. Yeah, I find the Audyssey app does put the sub levels way down, so I turned it back up. And I love Dynamic EQ when I want a little extra thump, especially at lower volumes. Glad the script worked out for you!
What’s the first movie / scene /song you use to test the system after you uploaded your new calibration?
Great question! I have a stereo and Atmos music playlist on Apple Music that I run through to benchmark the calibration. I also use the race scene in Ready Player One, the opening and other scenes in Dune Part One, the start of Edge of Tomorrow, and various Atmos/DTS demos on a thumb drive (OCA’s video has a link to a Google drive filled with various one but you can find them for free on various sites). I also really like the sound in Scott Pilgrim vs the World.
@@ReedBotwright What are your result with watching Edge of Tomorrow? I ask because currently, when I watch it, the 3rd bass drop is the loudest and the last bass drop is the quietest. Do you hear more of a level between tones or is that about accurate?
@@marcmolina9708 Which version do you have between streaming and UHD? If the former, that might be all the fidelity you get. If the latter, you might need some more tweaking to your subs. An admitted shortcoming of A1 is in the bass integration. Luckily, a new version of A1 is coming down the pipes with much better bass. Stay tuned!
@ReedBotwright oh, I guess I failed to mention more details. Streaming uhd on apple 4ktv. I have the Marantz Av7705, klipsch ref premier in a 5.2.4 setup and dual powersound 18 inch subs. I have not tried the A1 yet. I have only run audyssey with the multi xt32 app. So, already paid the 20 bucks, just need to set everything else up and give it a try.
Will this work with an older Marantz processor with built in Audussey calibration? I need a real basic diy on how you go about doing this
I have put a list of supported AVRs in the video description. It is a list based on the receivers supported by the Audyssey MultEQ Editor app. Check there as well (Apple App Store or Google Play Store) for the supported AVRs.
Google Play has this app as `MultiEQ Editor ` works fine with my Marantz SR 6012
Haven't done it yet ... but just thinking ahead .. what do you do if your also running your second sub output on the X6700h for transducers ( buttkickers ). I'm aware that if you enable the "2nd sub" for transducers after then it disables audyssey. And ... should I consider skipping the sub woofers all together, since I already have them ( 4 subs ) time aligned and gain matched as one sub using a miniDSP HD 4 ... or .... let this script play with it and see what happens ?
I have my 7 subs aligned similarly and I’m still working on integrating them. I just tried lowering the curtain on my sub output in the Audyssey MultEQ Editor app configuration on the optimized version before sending it to my AVR and that seemed to better preserve my DSP configuration. That’s one of the strategies Home Theater Gamer suggests for Audyssey. The other one I’m going to try is leave the time alignment on my DSP but disable my EQ, then run Audyssey and let it handle all EQ.
Thank you for this tutorial ! I just try it but facing this error as I have no subwoofer for the moment :
14:26:23 [INFO] Based on your AVR model - Denon AVC-X3700H, speed of sound has been set to 300.0 m/s for all distance calculations.
14:26:23 [WARNING] - if you believe this setting is not correct for your receiver model, please notify OCA!
14:26:23 [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************
14:26:23 [ERROR] Error: Optimization will not work with systems with NO subwoofer! - program execution has stopped!
Did you know how if there is a workaround ?
Yeah, you need at least one sub as the optimization is based integration with the sub(s). You might be able to bypass the requirement by making changes directly to the ADY file, but I don’t know the effectiveness of the results. Do you have a sub you can connect to your system?
Thanks for your answer! Just wait couple of days my sub is on the road ;-)
hi Reed, thanks a lot for the clear guide to Audyssey One. I tried it last night and got everything loaded in ok. But the final optimization stopped and the log said [ERROR] Error: Speaker names have different numbers of indices. - program execution has stopped! Any suggestion or trouble shooting tip to get the optimization to run? Many thanks.
I've seen that error before and it is usually an environment setup issue and I don't know a fix to it. If you want to send me your original ADY file, I can take a look at it for you! My email is my full name (as in the one I use for this channel) at Gmail dot com. You can also look for me on Facebook. Let me know if you send it as I may have to check my Spam folder or Message Requests.
Have you tried the new Evo version? I think OCA has cleared up this issue in the new version.
@@ReedBotwright Hi Reed, I did managed to get the original version of A1 to work, but the result was not very good. All the levels were significantly lowered and the cross-overs set at THX which really doesn't work well in my environment. I'll try A1 Evo and see if it's better, beats manually calibrating each speaker with a miniDSP UMIK-1 and REW. Thanks for the follow-up.
Hi there. I encountered a problem during the optimization stage. When I click the Start optimization button, nothing happens. I only see the line "transposing measurements from "8" different microphone positions to the prime position". Nothing further happens. All steps in your manual were completed successfully. What could be the problem?
Did you turn the API on in REW? Are you now using Evo?
hey Reed , great work. owns a 1700H and cant able to do. Error fetching deatils. any advice? ta
Error fetching details in the script? Sounds like you don’t have your file moved correctly to your computer. Some people have to use Google Drive to get the ADY to their computer for the script to see it.
@@ReedBotwright thanks for the reply mate, found it.. i dint run tht API. Uploaded and its amazing 👏🏻👏🏻.. seems like the more closer to ref levels, its sounds great.
Please help. I processed for the newer a1 evo and it finished all the way except it didn't make a new ady file for me to send back. I only have a data file saved. Any sugestions?
Read the logfile - there will be an info why it stopped.
So this would only work with a marantz/denon?
Correct. Only the Denon and Marantz models that support the Audyssey mobile app. I’ve updated the video description to include the models, as gathered from the iOS app description in the Canadian App Store.
(Mac User) I'm still trying to figure out what happened on my end. I didn't see a new .ady file; it only downloaded a log file after running the "Start Optimization." I searched my system, and the only thing that came up after a search was my original .ady file. Any help is appreciated.
I couldn’t get to work on Mac. I’ve got boot camp on my Mac so switched to windows and worked straight away. Just watching return of the Jedi speeder bike scene as a trial and it’s worth the effort.
Are you running the REW Beta 21? I’ve heard issues with Safari browser with the script. Have you tried in Chrome or Firefox?
@@ReedBotwright Chrome worked out perfectly. Thank you.
@@yo_g72 Great to hear! Not sure why but Safari doesn't play nice with the script.
Hi, do I need to change the frequency curtain? I usually change to 300 8n the multeq app after running audyssey.
Thank you.
The script has a list of AVRs which have the wrong speed of sound and automatically corrects for that. No need to touch it. And in terms of the curtain, I found the results didn’t change the natural behaviour of my speakers above about 1000 Hz. I haven’t needed to do any tinkering with the optimized file.
Work this with a 5.0 System? I have no Subwoofer because of neighbours.
No. I’ve also neighbours but u also have in more modern Marantz the option that the LFE will be controlled not to go through walls.
Did anybody make changes to their crossovers and size of speakers after running the A1 Evo? I’m asking because of the THX recommendations. Thanks
I did it with the forcing option but it wasnt better - only what u have to do is to read and follow the log file recommended tasks.
In my case I had to flip the phase.
Hi, i wanna why after i use rew on the correction. When finished it never prompted me to save in. Is there i miss anything
The lack of a prompt at the end could mean that it automatically put it in your Downloads folder/section of your browser. Check there!
I need to manually save in my android phone. But I can export in my multi eq app. It say wrong formation. And 1 of my friend did redo again and send me via email. From my email I can't save it. 🥲
Seems like since I did this my bass is weak, I had to revert back to my previous settings. maybe i will give it a shot again at another time. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that both my f18 subs are plugged into a mini dsp
The bass is how it is supposed to be for reference level listening.
I did have to crank my subs up about 5-7 dB, but actually found myself turning them back down again. I found the bass to be more natural and integrated with my system. I’m running 7 subs with the Dayton Audio DSP-408 on one sub out. The script seems to be fine calibrating virtual subs on the miniDSP.
Where can I get the REW version for MAC that has the API in it? The links in OCA page is only the windows version
Weirdly, the REW beta versions (at least the newest ones) are linked in this forum post: www.avnirvana.com/threads/rew-api-beta-releases.12981/
As discussed in the Facebook group thread, the new MAC beta should work, otherwise you may have to procure a previous beta version. It looks like OCA is wrestling with the API changing with beta releases so not all versions of the A1 script will necessarily work with all versions of the beta.
Can anyone help with this question pls? I understand you need REW software - is that free to download and do I need to perform any sweeps with a mic with REW (never attempted this before) or is that just used to apply the filters from Audyssey One?
REW is free although I do recommend getting the pro version once you start using it more, just to support the author. It is an amazing tool that is worth learning, but this script does a “headless” use of REW. You will have to set some settings and drag-and-drop your measurements into it, but none of the advanced features will be needed for this process.
@@ReedBotwright thanks Reed!
REW is free but if you find it useful I suggest donating to John (the creator). He is very active and responds to input, even adding things I've requested.
Watch at x0.75, thank me later.
Fair enough! I sped things up to fit it in to 20 minutes. The playback speed and pause are great UA-cam features!
So we don't need minidsp anymore? Or am I missing something here?
Your miniDSP is still very useful! You may want to disable EQ in it and let A1 handle flattening it to the Toole curve. I have a Dayton Audio DSP-408 for my multiple subs and it worked quite well with A1, although I’m about to re-do my A1 with the 408’s EQ disabled to let A1 handle the duty. In other words, your miniDSP should be good with A1 in either case!
I re-did my A1 and disabled all EQ in my DSP-408. A1 handled it quite well! I would recommend trying that to compare.
I'm getting the following error when trying to I hit "Start Optimization":
5:06:33 PM [ERROR] Error: Speaker names have different numbers of indices. - program execution has stopped!
Has anyone seen this error?
Thanks,
I've seen that error before and it is usually an environment setup issue and I don't know a fix to it. If you want to send me your original ADY file, I can take a look at it for you! My email is my full name (as in the one I use for this channel) at Gmail dot com. You can also look for me on Facebook. Let me know if you send it as I may have to check my Spam folder or Message Requests.
I just finished running the script but it never prompted me to save the ADY file after it finished! Not sure what happened. Is it possible to save the file manually?
Well take that back. It turns out when I looked into my downloads folder the optimized ADY file was there! So airdropped the file from my mac to my phone and sent it to the receiver.
I really like how it sounds but the graph shown in the iPhone app curves down up to -13db around 75htz. I thought the final graph should be fairly flat. Puzzled.
Glad you found the file! Yeah, some browsers not only automatically put the file in the Downloads section but some also Block the file.
I ignore everything from the curves in the app. They have to look weird to get into your AVR correctly. Measure with REW/UMIK-1 after the calibration is applied.
@@ReedBotwright Thanks Reed. I am not familiar with REW and it looks very complicated! For now I just will continue to enjoy the new sound. It is really amazing.
Running the A1 script actually made a much more noticeable improvement in my system than when I bought an EMOTIVA XPA-3 Gen 3 to drive my Martin Logan Motion 60XTi front stage. I guess not noticing a big improvement means how good the Marantz SR8015 is to begin with.
THANK YOU for taking the time to create the UA-cam video. It was vital to my success and I am grateful to you and to OCA for writing it.
Hello, thanks for the content!
I have a problem! I do everything exactly, but after turning on the server at the stage of pressing the "start optimization" button, nothing happens! I have already tried on a MacBook Pro and on a PC with Windows, the same result. Please help!!
Did you turn on the API in REW?
@@ReedBotwright Yes of course, port 4735
Are you running it in the Chrome or Firefox (and not Safari) browsers? Do you see any progress in the black box below the optimize button?
@@ReedBotwright I use Google Chrome, progress stops at 23:30:42 [LOG] Transposing measurements from '8' different microphone positions to the primary listening position.... The only thing is when I add curves to REW a window pops up: Note that the default Mic/Meter and Soundcard Calibration files are not applied to imported impulse responses, to apply Cal Data to an imported response use the
"Change cal" action on the teasurement panel.
@IRONWATER Did you up the max number of measurements in REW? Without changing their settings above the default 50 or so, not all of your measurements get imported in REW and A1 chokes up. If that’s not the case (as in you’ve already set that to 300 or so), feel free to email me you ADY file at reedbotwright @ gmail.com
Hi Reed ! I dont know whats happening with my results, but every time I run Audyssey one, the new curve makes the sound unlistenable... The sound gets so thin, unbalanced and uneven... The result is awful.
Are you running Evo or the old script? You could try using different curves like the old Toole one.
I have tried this 2 times with the same results. My cross overs are all set to 80 Hz and the overall volume is very low after the optimization. The crossover values on the amp and the editor app are the same, 80 Hz. I have a Denon X3700h which is on the list. The second time I spent a lot of time watching this video and the creators video to see if I missed something. It appears I am doing this correctly. When I open REW I get an audio interface error, it's about the sound card. It states there is a place to turn it off which I am having problems finding. I don't know if this is creating a problem. When listening in stereo I am using the preset that was calibrated by the amp itself because it sounds much better. I have tried to listen to the 2 different presents using the test files but it is difficult to determine because the output is so much lower on the Audyssey One preset. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks!
Wel i have to same Denon x3700h , sad to hear, 😢, did you fixed it , or do you say leave it and use the normal calibration?
Yes, the script applies a minimum crossover of 80 Hz, although you can check the logs and set them lower (not recommended). The errors in REW are typcial and only indicate that you want to set up your sound card if you are using REW for other measurements. The errors don’t impact A1. The output may be quieter because the levels were set lower and/or the script cut a bunch of peaks during EQ. You may want to re-run your sweeps in the app and run the ADY against the script again. I had a mis-read in the app during one of my numerous runs that made one too height speakers extremely loud and the rest very quiet.
Thanks for the guide! I'm getting this error when I try to send the optimized file to the AVR - The specified file is not located in the device's local storage or is not a proper curve file.
Help please.
Fixed it: I had to import the file from Google Drive instead of Local Storage.
Yeah, I helped someone else with the same problem. Getting the files to and from the Audyssey mobile app may be the toughest part of the whole process! 😁
How were the results?
@@ReedBotwright Everything sounds a lot better especially the bass! Doesn't sound boomy like it did before.
@@ReedBotwright same problem encountered later from google drive its done
@@donmathew90 its done
I've been getting this error code "SW1 bass response is below target throughout the range! This error may indicate a buggy MultEQ Editor app version measuring extremely high subwoofer volumes. If that's the case you will need to install a different version of the app and repeat Audyssey." Any idea on what to do with this error or how to move forward? I tried setting my sub gain lower for a few different calibrations and still getting the same error. I have a feeling it has to do with the Audyssey app. Any help would be awesome. Thanks Reed!
I am having the same error but on C speaker. Have you figured out a solution to this yet? I have even tried the newest beta version of REW and still getting the same results.
Did either of you get through this error? I've seen that error before and it is usually an environment setup issue and I don't know a fix to it. If you want to send me your original ADY file, I can take a look at it for you! My email is my full name (as in the one I use for this channel) at Gmail dot com. You can also look for me on Facebook. Let me know if you send it as I may have to check my Spam folder or Message Requests.
@@ReedBotwright Thanks Reed. I'll shoot you over an email this weekend if I can. I've tried all sorts of settings and still no luck. I have a feeling it might be an issue with the multeq app itself. I'm on an iphone too so I can't go back to an older version.
@@beeradicalfowla I'll keep an eye out for your email! Thanks!
@@ReedBotwrightI did have success finally and it was due to the MultiEq app and Android. Once I downgraded the app and redid the calibration everything went perfectly.
Time to enjoy my system once again, so far sounding very good. Much more immersive and my subs are blending very nicely.
Thank you so much for doing this video it was a huge help
Hello after apply start optimization I get this error : Error: Speaker names have different numbers of indices. - program execution has stopped! ( I stuck in this part 😢)My Denon is the X3800H the calibration was made with the Directional bass Feature due to I have 4 subwoofers
I sent you a PM on Facebook. Please send me your ADY via my email. I'll take a look at it!
@@ReedBotwright I'm also getting this error. Do multiple subwoofers be set as standard when calibrating or is direct - left/right still ok? Any solution?
@@YorickinOz Sorry, Directional mode for subs doesn’t work. Set them as standard and you should be good.
Am I the only one that finds that this calibration is a bit anemic? Is there anything to resolve this?
Anemic how? In terms of your subs? Make sure the script/Audyssey app didn’t set your fronts to Large and aren’t therefore bypassing your subs. I found did find that the time alignment improvements made everything more clear. This means that I might have to turn it up to a higher volume as a result, but I then find I can listen at higher SPL because the distortion/crosstalk isn’t making the sound fatiguing.
I can’t add zip txt files
Will show
load measured data set error 😢
How to fix this?
Can support me to fix 😊
Did you unzip them first? You can then drag-and-drop or click Open in REW.
If we have the paid calibrated Audyssey mic, how can we apply the calibration file to the measurements?
Unfortunately, there isn’t a way to use the Audyssey ACM1-X or miniDSP UMIK-1 with Audyssey One. It assumes you are using the standard Audyssey mic with the mobile app. At the same time, I have put its results directly against Audyssey MultEQ-X with both of these calibrated mics and it sounds better to me! (And takes a fraction of the time to set up in the case of using the UMIK-1.)
Can I use Audyssey ACM1-X instead of standard Audyssey Mic ?
Thank you and greetings from Austria 🇦🇹 Europe
@@danmaier2077 Yes, but you won't achieve any gains from its calibration. From what I understand, the ACM1-X is just a regular Audyssey mic with highly accurate calibration file. OCA actually has a video on how to "generate" one of those for your regular Audyssey mic using REW and a UMIK-1. A1 has no way to use the better calibration though. I've heard of others looking into updating the A1 process to take advantage of the UMIK-1 and the ACM1-X, so stay tuned!
@@ReedBotwright OK, thank you for the info!
Where do we find the Mac version of the Beta release?
It’s the same one as the link to the PC version, namely linked from the HTML script itself. Be warned that OCA is dealing with some issues with newer beta releases of REW so only download the beta version you find in Audyssey One.
I don't see an option for API like you do. Is there anything extra I need to do to have it show? Its just not there for me. I've tried on both Mac and Windows.
I solved my own problem. I was using the REW I had installed. I downloaded the REW BETA listed in the directions and my problem was solved.
Awesome! Yeah, the beta is the only version right now with the API. Glad you got it working! How does it sound?
Hi Reed, I saw your video on UA-cam regarding Audussey one hack & really enjoyed it & i was intrigued to try it out.
unfortunately I found the end sound performance quite disappointing.
I seem to have got a better result from my normal calibration using the Audyssey app.
The Audyssey one hack set my front speakers at 110Hz, which has never happened before. I was just wondering if sent the the results of the Audyssey app/ hack results to you, would you kind enough to see if they look relatively normal?
I am just getting in to exploring this extended type of calibration & must say i find it all very hard to understand, ie graphs of room correction results.
I would like to know if you see anything out of the ordinary with my post Audyssey/hack results.
Kind regards @ReedBotwright
For sure! Feel free to email me the file at my full name (also my UA-cam name) at Gmail dot com. Send me both your original and optimized ADY files.
@@ReedBotwright Awesome, thank you!.
I’ll send both before & after ADY files asap.
REW download is for windows only. Do you have a link for the MAC version please
Sorted it. It’s worth the effort. Big improvement
Great! Yeah, I’ve sourced the beta and there is a link to the Mac version of REW on a forum somewhere, but version 21 is harder to find. If anyone else is reading this, let me know if you need the Mac REW beta 21!
Mac version would just stop at an error after a minute so every time. Windows worked first time. Thanks for the video :)
@@ReedBotwrightWould love to know how/where to get the beta 21 version for the MacOS for A1 stopped with an error when I use the current beta for MacOS. Thanks in advance!
@@enchanutube I had to scour to find it, but here it is: drive.google.com/file/d/1DjzVX8O6VyFxbsrm8EecM52vekOCbIIc/view?usp=drive_link
is it working with Denon AVCx3800H?
Yes, it does! Works with all AVRs that support the Audyssey MultEQ Editor mobile app on iOS or Android.
@@ReedBotwright I did it, and saved new ady file but when I tried to put it on Multeq editor app it says: "The specified file is not located in the devices local storage or is not a proper curve file"?
@@edindzk Oh, that old chestnut. That seems to be related to the location of the file. If you downloaded it to your device into the Downloads folder, this error usually goes away when you move the file to another location. Give that a try!
@@edindzk That's usually because the file is in your Downloads folder on your device. Try moving the file to another location, like the root, on your phone/tablet.
I'm sorry all this is not an easy process for the uninitiated! I got as far as trying to upload my Calibration file and it wouldn't upload. And nothing I did would change it so I couldn't run any calibration and I've never used REW before. I wish this process was explained at a reasonable speed and also a really micro step by step. It's just all sounds like it was written in a different language
Sorry you had trouble with this. I'm glad we were able to connect on Facebook and get things sorted! So glad you enjoy the results too! :D
@ReedBotwright Thank you going over it again slowly myself I understood it in the end! Thanks for your help I love the results. Cleaner, clearer detailed sound great 3d bubble of sound! Just bought Bushardt S400 mk 2 -speakers for LRC channels so sounds amazing!
It don't works without a subwoofer
ARHGH!?!? I got no API in the settings :(
You have to use the REW Beta Version (v5.40 Beta 21) that is linked in Audyssey One.
Did you get the beta release? Did you get it running?
@@ReedBotwright Yea, but I needed to reinstall with Revo Uninstaller before it showed up. There was also this error:
"FR bass response is below target throughout the range!"
Another reinstalls fixed that problem too. My system sounds wonderful now :)
Sorry, but I have to ask now: is Audessey One a big joke?
- I have made a new Audessey messurement. Very careful. It sounds quite good in default state
- Then I have processed the measurement with the Audessey One script, following the instructions.
In my post 3 days ago I already wrote that the resulting curves look wierd to me.
But nevertheless I uploaded them to my X-4800.
- It sounded even worse than it looked. The LFE channel was practically disabled. Even bringing the crossover frequencies back to normal (A1 set fronts and center to all to 80Hz) an switching AutoEQ back to "on" (A1 set it to "off") did not bring much help. The sub still sounded weak and sick.
This is so far away from even "acceptable", this must be bad by intention.
So please confirm, I am almost sure: A1 is a joke, right? The theory already sounded implausible (some magical script brings every measurement for every setup to god level in 3 simple steps) and now practical experience confirms: It's a joke made for newbies like me, right? 😅 😅
Unfortunately, there appears to be a small minority of users who have mixed or poor results from this script. The foundations of how this script works are very sound. I don’t go into them a whole lot here as my focus is to help people through the process, but OCA does a better job in his video. You can also directly investigate the code to see what is happening. All that being said, it’s a hack. The script tries to take advantage of the processing power of REW and stuff its results into the Audyssey format (that’s why the curves look weird). It gets it very right a remarkable amount of time, but unfortunately not 100% of the time.
I’m more than happy to troubleshoot with you why the script may not work for you because I have directly helped scores of people and heard their praise of the results. Just let me know! It’s definitely not a joke!
@@ReedBotwright sorry for late reply, Reed. I was very frustrated when I wrote this 🫣
Some thought why it might have failed for me:
- Closed, but very powerful sub (ELAC 3070)
- Position not very good (rear area, midst between the rear speakers of a 7.1.2 setup
- Partially optimized living room 4x6m, not a home cinema room
4 passive bass traps, 2 active bass traps (PSI AVAA)
- Antimode 8033 s-lI in LFE line
- LFE line partially wireless (delay?) even though the sub is only 2,5 meters away, Audessey XT32 always use the highest distance value possible.
I have now eliminated many of these possible obstacles. I purchased a NUBERT XW-900 medium size open downfire sub with is small enough to fit between my front speakers (the ELAC was to gigantic for this).
Wired connection, but still with Antimode (in this room, I cannot go without it)
First test shows/hears an improvement compared to "before" even without A1.
As soon as I have finishes initial setup with XT32, I will give A1 a 2nd chance and tell you the results.
Thanks and CU later,
Celsi
@@celsi5563 Thanks for the update! Yeah, we all have challenges in our setups. I have a livingroom setup too. Have you tried the new A1 Evo v1.4? It was released yesterday. It requires REW Beta 33, so keep that in mind.
@@ReedBotwright New Feedback:
- Bought a new Sub (NUBERT XW-900, bass reflex, downfire, smaller size, significantly less powerful than my former, closed ELAC 3070).
This smaller sub fits into the front next to the main front speakers (NUBERT 284) where sub belongs.
Antimode 8033 s2 is still in use, but now LFE line is completely wired, no RF anymore.
I made a new Antimode messurement, then a new Audessey meassurement and ran it through A1.
Despite having read your comment about new A1evo, I used 1.3.
There was an update for 1.3 one week ago, and I thought this was "evo". When I realized it wasn't, it was too late 🙂
Still, even 1.3 seems to like my new setup better now than the old one.
First it sounded "terrible" again regarding the bass, but after I adjusted the crossovers back to the values which the Audessey meassurement had initially set (A1 set them all to 80Hz) and reactivated DynamicEQ (A1 deactivated it), it sounded quite good.
❔But question: is it a good idea to reverse these decisions of A1? My thought is: if I change "optimized" settings in such a drastic way, does the optimization itself still make sense?
I now try to put into words which changes I noticed between standard meassurement (before) and A1 meassurement (after):
- Clarity of speech has improved (very important for me, because I watch everything in EN but it is not my native language, I need to listen very careful
- low freqencies were a little bit reduced. Explosions, shots, spaceship flyby sounds, all seemed to be less "grumbling" than before, less powerful.
I could "fix" this with increasing LFE channel in the AVR by 2db.
- Surround effects have significantly increased. The feeling of being in the middle of the action has improved. Side surround speakers and rear speakers (7.1.2 setup) are far more active than before.
Is that what is to be expected from A1? I read so many happy comments about A1 having improved the sound significantly, but nobody was going into details what exactly has improved, compared to "before".
Thank you for your time and patience with a beginner.
P. S. After some more testing: In 3 of my 5 usual test scenarios I like the A1 calibration better than the standard calibration:
- THE EXPANSE, S02E01, 1st scene, starship flyby and 2nd scene Bobby Draper battle training on Mars
Later, fight between Amos and Miller in the canteen of Rocinante
- THE 5th ELEMENT, main menue background sound effects
- SONS OF ANARCHY S06E05: Club house explosion
- INTERSTELLAR rocket lauch is still to do, for this I need to wait until my neighbors have left the house 😄
But the A1 calibration does not seem to be suitable for Music, can anybody confirm this? Sounds terrible, sounds "sqished", like mash (I hope these words make any sense in EN)
I wanted to give it a try but I couldn't understand what that Ukrainian OCA guy was saying... Thanks for the American translation.
Ha! Happy to oblige. OCA is the man.
TV way too high!
Ha! No way. I would put it on the ceiling if I could. And it sounds amazing.
I ran this and stored it in my secondary profile on my AV40. For some reason it sounds a bit thinner and to my ears not as good as the unaltered AVR auto calibration. I have been having some issues with dialogue in movies so I was hoping this would help, but neither profile is great for dialogue.
Did you download the latest one (version 1.3X) from OCA’s video? The newest version addresses some bass issues that others have had. I’ve also had to bump my bass in the levels up 3-5 dB with every version since 1.2.
Too much hype. Not that good. Dirac still did better
Better have for that cost. I’ve got plenty of very happy users. Sorry it didn’t produce as good results for you. What was your biggest complaint?
Whoowie error after error, better delete this video, poeple are all messing up there systems, as i already suspected😢
How so? I talk to people in these comments, on forums, on several Facebook groups about their experiences with A1. I even set up a Facebook group specifically to help users. Yes, some struggle with the technical aspects of setting up and using the A1 script. No one I've talked to has expressed that A1 has "messed up" their systems. Worst case scenario, people can send the original ADY file back to their receiver for the pre-A1 calibration. The majority of the users I've spoken to have been blown away by the tweaks by OCA as much as I have. Do you have evidence to back up your claims?
Did you find out what caused the errors? I’m looking to try this out.
There are some technical challenges for a minority of user, varying from file movement and locking issues to a known issue with people who didn’t have centre speakers or subwoofers. Others had issues using Direction Mode for subs on the newer Denon/Marantz. Almost all of these are solved, and the results are even better, on the new Evo version!
I beg you, remount your TV. That is ridiculous placement. You're viewing from extreme off angle and killing your picture quality. This is not debatable, it needs to be fixed.
Ha! Thanks for the advice but it looks amazing. The TV is cantered forward and the LG C1’s OLED is more than clear in the MLP and the rest of the room.
Did you try the script? How did it sound?
@@ReedBotwright I haven't tried it yet. So there's no exception to off angle viewing- It degrades picture quality 100% of the time. Your head should be dead center of the screen in your seating position. Why did you mount it like that? Was that so you could have your center channel at your level? Not sure what your situation is but if you have a narrow seating arrangement or single seat MLP, a properly set up phantom center channel will utterly destroy any dedicated center channel. I get that you have to make compromises when setting things up but if I were you, I would lower that TV a lot. It's a nice TV and you're not getting what you should out of it. Find a good compromise between center channel height and TV height- rather than doing an extreme position on one or the other. Have a good one!
The TV is way too high indeed. But oled has good viewing angles so picture quality should be ok. Ergonomics are awful.
@@l.s.1709 The couch is quite reclined so the angle is not an issue. Never been an issue with fatigue or strain. I've had it up there to protect against the kids for 7 years now. And it's in daily use. I'd recommend it to others! 😀
gave this a quick try with an old ADY file I had from last June, thought I followed it pretty well, but I got an odd (to me) error (I see 12 channels worth of info in the ZIP file 7.1.4 = 12):
5:53:08 PM [INFO] Based on your AVR model - Denon AVR-X4700H, speed of sound has been set to 300.0 m/s for all distance calculations.
5:53:08 PM [WARNING] - if you believe this setting is not correct for your receiver model, please notify OCA!
5:53:08 PM [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************
5:53:09 PM [LOG] Applying Target Curve located @ C:\Users\steve\Documents\Home Theater Doc\Calibrations and Info\OCAs ADY changes\DrTooleTargetCurve.txt
5:53:09 PM [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************
5:53:09 PM [ERROR] Error: Number of channels mismatch! - program execution has stopped!
I might suggest running it again. And if you still have issues, feel free to send me your ADY file. I can take a look.
@@ReedBotwright Looks like the first time I dropped the extracted items into the EQ panel of REW and note the main screen... so looks like I have a new ADY to try:
4:40:06 PM [LOG] 'AUDYSSEY ONE' optimization has been completed with SUCCESS in 87.840 seconds!
4:40:06 PM [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************
4:40:06 PM [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************
4:40:06 PM [INFO] When prompted, save the .ady file to your PC and send it 'as is' to your MultEQ Editor app.
4:40:06 PM [INFO] Next, transfer it 'as is' from the app to your AV receiver as you normally would.
4:40:06 PM [INFO] The Editor app graphs will no longer represent final speaker responses due to the special filtering technique implemented.
4:40:06 PM [INFO] Speaker responses with 'final' indices under REW / All SPL tab are your expected post-calibration responses.
4:40:06 PM [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************
4:40:06 PM [INFO] UA-cam video (ua-cam.com/video/iU1ZBsru76M/v-deo.html) contains a download link for several Dolby Atmos & DTS-X test clips
4:40:06 PM [INFO] compatible for playback via a USB key on your Blu-ray player for testing.
4:40:06 PM [INFO] ************************************************************************************************************************
4:40:06 PM [INFO] Enjoy your new sound!
I run into the same warning. Also with an old .ady file from last year. Let's see if I create a new one tomorrow if the same is happening again.
@@elmarkroezen For sure! I've heard of others getting past errors with new runs of Audyssey. Let me know how that goes!
@@elmarkroezen Yeah, I've seen others resolve errors by re-running Audyssey. Give that a try and let me know how it goes!
The one thing that Audyssey One just like other room correction software doesn't solve is the fact that you are stuck having to use a generic target curve for your particular room and speakers. Every room is different and you need a correction software that can create the target curve for your room and speakers based on your room acoustics and characteristics. This is where True Target shines and delivers. True Target has taken my home theater to a whole new level.