Great video. I needed to see this for the opposite problem. Previous owners lowered my truck all the way. The boot is resting on the frame, you can imagine how soft it is when I hit a small bump.... Gotta get under there and lift it back up
Hey Nathan, great video as usual! Have you considered finding some f-100 front fenders to shrink the wheel opening considerably? It would definitely look lower and more proportional to those tires!
Thank You, I did This Long Long ago to my 69 Chrysler Town & Country Wagon To raise It But Needed a "Refresher course". So Nice To See NO Rust Under a vehicle as i live In the Winter salt belt Of Minne-SNOW-Ta................
Since you’re leaving the bar that the adjustment bolt goes to in place, do you need to use a torsion bar unloading tool? Or since leaving it in place holds the tension still, it’s not necessary?
Hey, nice video. I just broke my upper control mounted on chessis. What could be the reason? Does over size shocks can do harm Or over tighten Torsion bar?
i think you will find removing that much tension from the bars might make the front end extremely soft and not handle well at all. dont forget you are creating negative camber and changing the caster angle. with dropping the front that much, i am not sure if there is enough adjustment in the control arms to bring it back to specs. no planes this time? i would look into drop spindles as a possible better solution. caster and camber wouldnt change. handling would be very close to factory.
In the next week I'll drive her to check the handling. There's actual;;y a ton of adjustment in the front suspension for things like camber & caster. If I like how it handles I'll get it aligned & see if it can be brought to within spec.
wonder if they make drop spindles for a mountaineer or match up the parts to something that will work. just a thought. in conjunction with this vodeo to really get her low. and your right about the wheel wells. their huge. their more like tubs. but you can stuff some reallu wide tires in there to fill it up.
I used 2" drop torsion keys on mine. That way you can still have some tension on the front end. You might find after driving it that the front end is very soft now.
Hey brotha i know this video is old but we're those crown vic wheels mounted on it I kinda have a wild swap as well 98 explorer under a 53 bel air. I realize there's not a ton of options (that I have found ) just curious if you needed spacer or anything for those smaller wheels
Someone said on an 05 Colorado that in order to lower it you need to put spacers between the front differential and the frame. Does that sound correct? Its a front tosion bar setup on a 4x4
kool thank you for your video. i wanted to know how many turns it would take for me to lower 1 inch on my 85 isuzu pick up. but it may be different and ill have to try it before i go to the full 6 turns. ill try a 5 turn and see where it lands. Would all torsion bar lowering be the same or different???
Hello, lowering the keys like this without removing the retaining plate? Does that mean I wouldn’t need a torsion unloading tool since tension would be held by the plate? Thank you
@@SirGuidemere91 I used a C clamp to lift the pork chop off of the bolt, removed the threaded plate , welded it ,exact spot only under the cross member, instead of in the cross member , all while front is jacked up from ground . This will be too low for 4x4 you will need to put the bolts back in to push back up on the porkchops
Caolán McDonnell I don’t think so. If the 306 is anything like the old VW Bug you may have to take the trailing arms off and clock them on the torsion bar splines. Definitely give it a dose of Googling to get your answer though.
Tighten them up and they drive better the more responsive why would you want to loosen the best thing I ever did in my truck was tighten that thing right up
Gotta tell you, I am sub'd to many channels, but I look forward to your videos the most. You think outside the box and your editing/storytelling is great.
All of these video's about the torsion bar adjustment , not just this one, the people talk so much rubbish. Some try to sound intelligent and some just talk S#^T! Just get on with it!
Hey Nathan, great video as usual! Have you considered finding some f-100 front fenders to shrink the wheel opening considerably? It would definitely look lower and more proportional to those tires!
Great video. I needed to see this for the opposite problem. Previous owners lowered my truck all the way. The boot is resting on the frame, you can imagine how soft it is when I hit a small bump.... Gotta get under there and lift it back up
Nice short video. Glad too see a bit more progress done on it
Thank you for your help , and professionalism
Great video I was looking for a cheap way to lower my 2wd explorer a bit at lest take a inch out of the front end
Hey Nathan, great video as usual! Have you considered finding some f-100 front fenders to shrink the wheel opening considerably? It would definitely look lower and more proportional to those tires!
Thank You, I did This Long Long ago to my 69 Chrysler Town & Country Wagon To raise It But Needed a "Refresher course". So Nice To See NO Rust Under a vehicle as i live In the Winter salt belt Of Minne-SNOW-Ta................
Cheers mate that helped me heaps 👍
Since you’re leaving the bar that the adjustment bolt goes to in place, do you need to use a torsion bar unloading tool? Or since leaving it in place holds the tension still, it’s not necessary?
Hey, nice video. I just broke my upper control mounted on chessis. What could be the reason? Does over size shocks can do harm Or over tighten Torsion bar?
Thank you for the video
Very informative. I would like to see how it handles after you removed all that tension?
We'll find out very soon :)
So how did it handle Nathan
I got exactly the same set up , mine is actually a 54 f150 on a 2000 Mountaineer .
i think you will find removing that much tension from the bars might make the front end extremely soft and not handle well at all. dont forget you are creating negative camber and changing the caster angle. with dropping the front that much, i am not sure if there is enough adjustment in the control arms to bring it back to specs. no planes this time? i would look into drop spindles as a possible better solution. caster and camber wouldnt change. handling would be very close to factory.
In the next week I'll drive her to check the handling. There's actual;;y a ton of adjustment in the front suspension for things like camber & caster. If I like how it handles I'll get it aligned & see if it can be brought to within spec.
they also sell camber caster bolt kits that are pretty cheap to help adjust alignment.
wonder if they make drop spindles for a mountaineer or match up the parts to something that will work. just a thought. in conjunction with this vodeo to really get her low. and your right about the wheel wells. their huge. their more like tubs. but you can stuff some reallu wide tires in there to fill it up.
In the next week I'll drive her to check the handling & see if they would be needed.
not recommended to grind a socket. use a paint pen or sharpie. now the socket had a perfect place to crack if over torqued
Shut up Justin
I used 2" drop torsion keys on mine. That way you can still have some tension on the front end. You might find after driving it that the front end is very soft now.
In the next week I'll drive her to check the handling & see how she feels.
Did the drop torsion keys help with the bouncy/softness??
Will need a decent set of front shocks as lowering will soften the ride
Hey brotha i know this video is old but we're those crown vic wheels mounted on it I kinda have a wild swap as well 98 explorer under a 53 bel air. I realize there's not a ton of options (that I have found ) just curious if you needed spacer or anything for those smaller wheels
How did you you do your front cab mounts and how did you get your cab mount measurement thanks for any help
to go lower you can often clock the torsion bar on the lever arm or bottom control arm
Yeah if it's too soft I may well clock them.
Someone said on an 05 Colorado that in order to lower it you need to put spacers between the front differential and the frame. Does that sound correct? Its a front tosion bar setup on a 4x4
kool thank you for your video. i wanted to know how many turns it would take for me to lower 1 inch on my 85 isuzu pick up. but it may be different and ill have to try it before i go to the full 6 turns. ill try a 5 turn and see where it lands. Would all torsion bar lowering be the same or different???
It's all different. On my 97 nissan hardbody it took like 60 turns to drop 3 inches
I weld the keys under the crossmember , lowers the pork chop even lower, I've done this on 4x4 s10 blazers with no issues with 4wd
Hello, lowering the keys like this without removing the retaining plate? Does that mean I wouldn’t need a torsion unloading tool since tension would be held by the plate? Thank you
@@SirGuidemere91
I used a C clamp to lift the pork chop off of the bolt, removed the threaded plate , welded it ,exact spot only under the cross member, instead of in the cross member , all while front is jacked up from ground . This will be too low for 4x4 you will need to put the bolts back in to push back up on the porkchops
So squeeze the porckchop up, remove the retain plate weld it below and put bolt back in for desired ride height, might need longer bolts
I guess I meant I lower the plate location allowing the keys to turn downward more . Pretty simple if you can weld .
Awesome thank you
Does it have to be jacked up
Did you take it out all the way?
I have one side of my Mazda is tight to turn compares to other side.
Does this alter camber?
Me and my friend working on it to same one older thought
The the bolt you are turn is to adjust ride comfort. Lowered is different then sagging.
Hi there, thanks for your guide, I've just picked up a Ford ranger with torsion bar suspension. Do you know if its the same on these?
Cheers Glen...
Yeah. Exactly the same.
thanks... i'm going to give it a go.....
@@whydotufaqoff How did it go?
@@jmata383 hi, haven't had a chance to do it yet. Cheers...
@@whydotufaqoff Oh well, I hope when you do get time that it goes well! I plan on doing the same
Is it the same with rear suspension? I'm trying to do this on a Peugeot 306.
Caolán McDonnell I don’t think so. If the 306 is anything like the old VW Bug you may have to take the trailing arms off and clock them on the torsion bar splines. Definitely give it a dose of Googling to get your answer though.
So was that 10 full turns.
Did you need a wheel alignment after to fix camber???
Sean Baller I never checked it after I lowered it but it drove great.
Nathan's Garage Okay, thank you sir.
@@NathansGarage Thank You again i was Curious about If caster/Camber was Changed
Try bp blaster
Is this the bad guy from gone in 60 seconds
Tighten them up and they drive better the more responsive why would you want to loosen the best thing I ever did in my truck was tighten that thing right up
I would guess that people would want to restore ride quality. Super tight torsion keys destroy suspension parts... To each their own.
No mention of alignment?
Gunna be a bunch of folk rollin around ruining tyres super fast i reckon
imo. the Ford trucks from 1953-1956 look so bitchin when they are lowered. also the same for the years 1967-1972.
What?!? No after shot to see what she looks like lowered?
J Smith that's gonna be saved for a Betty video. I can tell you...she looks goooooood!!!!!!!!
Gotta tell you, I am sub'd to many channels, but I look forward to your videos the most. You think outside the box and your editing/storytelling is great.
Thank you Sir!
Exact same for me!! Much respect, and as always... Happy days!
All of these video's about the torsion bar adjustment , not just this one, the people talk so much rubbish. Some try to sound intelligent and some just talk S#^T! Just get on with it!
Why would you want to do that then I just can’t stand it when people lower vehicles raise them up so you can drive over shit
Hey Nathan, great video as usual! Have you considered finding some f-100 front fenders to shrink the wheel opening considerably? It would definitely look lower and more proportional to those tires!
Yeah...in time that may happen...& yes that would solve a lot of my problems :)