How Trump & Musk Will Reshape US Climate Action | Election Special

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  • Опубліковано 27 гру 2024

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  • @CleaningUpPod
    @CleaningUpPod  Місяць тому +4

    Thanks for watching this special bonus episode. Subscribe to the channel and sign up to our free newsletter at cleaninguppod.substack.com

  • @tommclean7410
    @tommclean7410 Місяць тому +10

    Excellent effort to find nuggets of hope in the current pile of sh!t. I so do appreciate the perspectives you both bring.

  • @jonathonalsop2120
    @jonathonalsop2120 Місяць тому +9

    Glad to be able to hear from smart, caring, reasonable people. Thanks and keep up the good work.

    • @amyw1850
      @amyw1850 25 днів тому

      The US election was largely a result of an overpowering media megaphone for Trump's false narrative and the Harris message being stuck in an echo chamber with a significant portion of the population only hearing the Trump propaganda (Hearing one truth to 2 lies can be persuasive, but one truth to 10 -100 lies is closer to brainwashing). The problem is that if this does not change quickly, the lies and false narratives will rapidly seep further into the culture. Trump's accomplices have used persuasive messages which turn every concept upside down - and even if you do not buy into it, it causes confusion, distrust and apathy. Every nation should be aware of this dangerous digital trend which is easily manipulated by few actors who are more likely to have nefarious intent rather than benevolent governance in mind.
      The US is in unprecedented dangerous territory with little to no effective safeguards. We likely need to build community trust from neighborhoods up in this post pandemic environment - our isolation has played into deteriorating perceptions of reality. But the media propaganda may be a largely insurmountable barrier in the near future - we need help with this.
      The last week of 3 Rogan interviews brought Trump's message to an enormous number (hundreds of millions of views) of unsuspecting low information men who tipped the elections across the nation. This close election would have belonged to either candidate in most states prior to this last minute nation wide influence. There is clear evidence of this in the exit polls.

  • @PinataOblongata
    @PinataOblongata Місяць тому +11

    Just make sure people get the full picture about Peanut the freakin' squirrel, if this is the first they've heard about it: A guy kept him as a pet, which you're not supposed to do, didn't bother to take him to a vet or get him any kinds of vaccinations, which would've been advisable, and then made a bunch of money off the thing featuring it on a UA-cam channel that showed off his well-built body so that he could start and OnlyFans (seriously, only in America!). With so much publicity, the authorities got wind of him owning what is supposed to be a wild animal (there are laws about this in every civilised country) and went to repatriate the squirrel. Unfortunately, it bit one of those people, and because squirrels can carry rabies and the only way to tell if an animal has rabies is to take a piece of its brain at autopsy (which other poor pet owners have found out the hard way, not just this guy) they had to put it down. The guy also kept a raccoon, and they can carry and transfer rabies, too.
    Was it really necessary? Probably not, but was it normal and legal and probably predictable if someone draws a lot of attention to themselves owning an illegal pet? Yeah. Was it a perfect storm after someone got bitten? Very much so. But just be aware, if you see people trying to say they outright just killed a guy's pet for no reason, that's not the situation at all (as usual). They followed protocol as regards to bites from animals that can carry rabies, when someone's life was potentially in the balance of them doing so. If the squirrel actually HAD been infected, they would've have needed to start the person bitten on prophylactic vaccine straight away, as the disease kills nearly everyone infected and it's a horrible death.

    • @kschleic9053
      @kschleic9053 Місяць тому

      The only reason this is getting any traction is because the "influencer" was a Trump fan, and that a small group of liberal influencers organized a call-in campaign to the local government with the goal of getting the squirrel taken away. If it was just random government action, people wouldn't be so outraged.

  • @MarkShapiro-m8r
    @MarkShapiro-m8r Місяць тому +5

    I appreciate the views from overseas and agree with the general analysis, but we should not ignore the most salient risks: political violence, intimidation, and humiliation. Dictatorship is a horrible governing system, especially in the most powerful nation on earth.

  • @simonpannett8810
    @simonpannett8810 Місяць тому +5

    Great conversations! Frustrating that everyone has no clue about the Future climate US policy as Trump is so unpredictable!!

    • @gehwissen3975
      @gehwissen3975 Місяць тому +1

      "Out of Paris and drill." - seems clear to me. This man could not stay in Power.

    • @davebennett7550
      @davebennett7550 Місяць тому

      Maybe there's a way to make Trump think that reducing GHG emissions was his idea ?

  • @ernstgumrich5614
    @ernstgumrich5614 Місяць тому +4

    "Europe is totally unprepared", this segment hits hard. Unfortunately it has meanwhile become almost a trueism.

  • @decimal1815
    @decimal1815 Місяць тому +6

    Climate-related weather events could be Trump's next crisis that he can't blame on anyone else.

    • @bunsw2070
      @bunsw2070 Місяць тому

      Don't hold your breath. Global warming is nonsense.

    • @w0ttheh3ll
      @w0ttheh3ll Місяць тому

      he'll find a way :(

    • @tidtidy4159
      @tidtidy4159 Місяць тому

      ​@@w0ttheh3llhe will blame weather modification.The fool.

    • @w0ttheh3ll
      @w0ttheh3ll Місяць тому +1

      @@tidtidy4159 the fools are the ones that believe the lies

    • @tidtidy4159
      @tidtidy4159 Місяць тому

      @@w0ttheh3ll which particular lies are you referring to?

  • @timstevens3361
    @timstevens3361 Місяць тому +2

    safe n secure
    i can now sleep at night

  • @christophermarshall527
    @christophermarshall527 Місяць тому +3

    Trump doesn't have even have a concept for a plan unless it makes him money...

  • @berthogendoorn2133
    @berthogendoorn2133 Місяць тому +4

    Unfortunately Musk says the IRA for EV charging expansion is totally self serving, as he says he will drop that as it is unnecessary, well that will only allow Tesla to monopolise the EV charging industry, which under the previous Democrats would never be allowed because of the anti competition monopoly act.

  • @marxagarden
    @marxagarden Місяць тому +2

    China has,with these open policies to factories, tapped into what made early capitalism so competitive. Tradesman would experience innovative technology out of their local area and expertise and bring it back to modify it. Patents and monopoly have stifled these kinds of exchanges.

  • @shawnnoyes4620
    @shawnnoyes4620 Місяць тому +1

    I miss Bryony Worthington from the early Thorium days :)

  • @CuriousGuy2010
    @CuriousGuy2010 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for another interesting podcast

  • @FJStraußinger
    @FJStraußinger Місяць тому +4

    they workd with the best way of mass manipulation and russia helped him and musk paid, there are huge Networks behind this!

    • @honesty_-no9he
      @honesty_-no9he Місяць тому

      You are a Russiagater moron.

    • @amyw1850
      @amyw1850 26 днів тому +1

      This is the problem we need to solve under a future repressive government. I don't know how, but we need to start now. Free speech = Free press. Organize from each street, to city, to state from the ground up.

  • @Paul-W1
    @Paul-W1 Місяць тому +1

    The lands situation in western (red States) is a complex mosaic of private, state and Federal lands (BLM). Only the latter will the Feds have jurisdiction on. Sure they were ease permitting on those lands but State interests in environmental issues (esp. water!) will slow down the process.

  • @OBGynKenobi
    @OBGynKenobi Місяць тому +1

    A fox talking head as defense secretary. If this isn't a joke, I don't know what is.

  • @casey2806
    @casey2806 12 днів тому

    Clearly, the discussion with Professor Qi Ye took place some time ago. I understand there may be some delay in releasing it due to editing and quality control. However, doing so gives it a certain odour of a controlled narrative.

  • @abody499
    @abody499 Місяць тому

    5:28 yeah this just leaves me in dspair. u just dont get it. u r concerned about the things u r subliminally told to be concerned about, which is everything bar the problem.

  • @davidhancock91
    @davidhancock91 Місяць тому +2

    What is trumps climate plan?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @FJStraußinger
      @FJStraußinger Місяць тому +1

      clean coal, clean diesel, clean gas 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
      it is ovious so hilarious.... all climate numbers are behind us... and upfront china africa india should not go our way but there is a huge PR fight between greentechblobby and O&G and for sure nuclear

  • @reneeconlan
    @reneeconlan Місяць тому

    Stay the F out of U.S. Affairs. Your countries economies are in shambles so focus on that. And don't even think about asking us for Aid in terms of Benjamins.

  • @simon-c2y
    @simon-c2y Місяць тому

    I do think it is about how to appeal to the workers - green leftish people dont know how to do that. How do we sell a future which will be better, but only if we make sacrifices and changes that will cost workers the most?

    • @gehwissen3975
      @gehwissen3975 Місяць тому

      With climate change there is no 'better future' - we might avoid the worst. Get off your high horse.

  • @abody499
    @abody499 Місяць тому +2

    it was a shock? 😂
    cmon

  • @mowensmd
    @mowensmd Місяць тому

    Michael fundamentally misunderstands whats going on. The reasons Trump was again installed and by whom are the singular explanation.

  • @wewk584
    @wewk584 Місяць тому +2

    Drill baby drill

  • @alexandrejuve1305
    @alexandrejuve1305 Місяць тому

    From 2016 to 2020 it was great years for EVs, green energy and bad for coal in US. I think this one will be better.

    • @geraldbutler5484
      @geraldbutler5484 Місяць тому +2

      Even though the Ape promised to turn it all around and cook the planet!

    • @gehwissen3975
      @gehwissen3975 Місяць тому

      This man could not stay in Power. No matter what some Americans voted.

  • @stephengreen8986
    @stephengreen8986 Місяць тому

    If it's solar and storage in America and wind and storage in the uk, I'm ok with that. I would rather the market decides when Ice says goodbye than subsidy and politics. At least we get to vote as consumers with our choices and behaviours. I drive full Ev but don't seek to compel others.

  • @stephenyang2844
    @stephenyang2844 Місяць тому

    America has gone to the dogs, God bless America!

  • @tomcockcroft9394
    @tomcockcroft9394 Місяць тому +2

    Micheal once again small woke man rambling. Out of touch with the majority of the world

    • @MLiebreich
      @MLiebreich Місяць тому +2

      If that's your opinion, that makes you an angry man watching stuff on UA-cam that annoys you. Sad.

    • @tomcockcroft9394
      @tomcockcroft9394 Місяць тому

      @ I love the channel. But not sure why you have to hate on the guy who has done more for climate change than anyone in the world. Just because you’re a woky trying to restrict people’s freedom of speech

    • @tomcockcroft9394
      @tomcockcroft9394 Місяць тому

      @ don’t need your woke political agenda getting in the way of the people who actually solve climate like musk

  • @petermizon4344
    @petermizon4344 Місяць тому

    PRESIDENT AND PRIME MINISTER WERE FIRST THREE LETTERS IN SURNAME BEGIN WITH TRU. !!!! WHATS MISSING ? ST. TRUST

  • @freeheeler09
    @freeheeler09 Місяць тому

    Brits and Europeans are toast. Trump will side with Putin and Xi in every case over Europe.

  • @falconnm
    @falconnm Місяць тому

    LOL! I cant believe there's a channel nieve or uninformed enough to think Trump has a climate policy.

    • @MLiebreich
      @MLiebreich Місяць тому

      I did use air quotes when talking about Trump's energy policy, TBF

  • @andrewsaint6581
    @andrewsaint6581 Місяць тому

    I spoke to some friends in America and since the ban on checking id before voting in California, I asked if I flew from UK to CA could I vote?
    They were fairly confident I could do it.
    THAT, is what polarised which party is actually democratic and which is not.
    I'm sorry I've had to bail out of the video because of the rampantly polarised bias.
    The results were reasonably predictable and obvious for those not in the "bubble".
    Also do not underestimate the MAHA movement from RFK.
    Tulsi Gabbard is a force of nature too.

  • @JeremAl
    @JeremAl Місяць тому

    Selective tariffs won’t be inflationary. You believe too much neoliberal economics.

    • @Tom-dt4ic
      @Tom-dt4ic Місяць тому +14

      Anything that makes things more expensive is inflationary, by definition! Teriffs will make things more expensive. This isn't hard.

    • @MLiebreich
      @MLiebreich Місяць тому +5

      Please explain how adding a cost to something can drive down the price, because I am so indoctrinated with common sense that I can't see it.

    • @corradoalamanni179
      @corradoalamanni179 Місяць тому

      Inflation to be so needs an increased pool of currency. With tariffs imports will be more expensive but not everything

    • @shawnnoyes4620
      @shawnnoyes4620 Місяць тому

      You are ignorant! Of course, it will drive inflation. And, I think that I am for the tariffs. But, your view is nonsense.

    • @astoni314
      @astoni314 22 дні тому

      The Tariff Act of 1930 (codified at 19 U.S.C. ch. 4), commonly known as the Smoot-Hawley Tariff or Hawley-Smoot Tariff,[1] was a law that implemented protectionist trade policies in the United States. Sponsored by Senator Reed Smoot and Representative Willis C. Hawley, it was signed by President Herbert Hoover on June 17, 1930. The act raised US tariffs on over 20,000 imported goods.[2]
      The tariffs under the act, excluding duty-free imports, were the second highest in United States history, exceeded by only the Tariff of 1828.[3] The Act prompted retaliatory tariffs by many other countries.[4] The Act and tariffs imposed by America's trading partners in retaliation were major factors of the reduction of American exports and imports by 67% during the Great Depression.[5] Economists and economic historians have a consensus view that the passage of the Smoot-Hawley Tariff worsened the effects of the Great Depression.
      Second time lucky eh? Probably not?

  • @bowercompanyexcavation5586
    @bowercompanyexcavation5586 15 днів тому

    Drill baby drill