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  • @PursuitofAccuracy
    @PursuitofAccuracy 4 місяці тому +49

    This mans just obliterating every range excuse ive ever had. Damnit 😂

  • @Rumplef0reskin
    @Rumplef0reskin 4 місяці тому +50

    95% shooter , 5% equipment...

    • @zen-Tii
      @zen-Tii 4 місяці тому +8

      I had that backwards. It was frustrating and expensive.

    • @mousemx1534
      @mousemx1534 4 місяці тому +4

      @@zen-Tiibeen there too

    • @DJG37S
      @DJG37S 4 місяці тому +5

      The equipment matters when you are at the top 1% in the world. If you are some one like Christian Sailer, JJ Racaza, Mason Lane, Eric Grauffel, etc the equipment matters, hence why they are all running steel frame guns. Now for people like ourselves here, the equipment won't matter much because our skill levels are no where near the top 1% of the shooters in the world.

    • @IvanRiveraStagea
      @IvanRiveraStagea 4 місяці тому +4

      @@DJG37S Equipment can be a band-aid for some skill issues too. A heavy gun with an aggressive grip texture can mask a poor grip to a significant extent. How these aids mask our shortcomings is precisely why they become addictive (yes, I'm pretty deep into that habit).

    • @DJG37S
      @DJG37S 4 місяці тому +2

      @@IvanRiveraStagea If you read into what I stated, you would know that if you are in the 1% of the shooters in the world, then the equipment matters. Why? because you will know that a plastic gun will have more felt recoil then a steel frame gun, and this matters when a split second counts. Go research 2022 carry optics nationals where JJ lost by less then a point. He lost by .5 of a point. But like I stated if you are not part of the 1%ers in competitive shooting, then then equipment won't matter.

  • @laskalives
    @laskalives 4 місяці тому +54

    He's even faster with a Hi-Point than either of these two.

    • @JB22636
      @JB22636 4 місяці тому +6

      That's a good video idea. Ben makes us all feel bad with a hi point - that's funny.

    • @viralvidsrepository4632
      @viralvidsrepository4632 4 місяці тому +2

      Ok how amazing would it be if Ben entered a state level comp with a hi-point and got the cheese.

    • @TheStapler9000
      @TheStapler9000 4 місяці тому

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    • @ryth-2401
      @ryth-2401 4 місяці тому

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  • @raidwolf4088
    @raidwolf4088 4 місяці тому +7

    This guy seriously shot a smiley face like Mel Gibson did in Lethal Weapon.

  • @LockBarrelLounge
    @LockBarrelLounge 4 місяці тому +3

    Testament to your skills Ben... not easy to make them both look as smooth, fast and accurate! You said it... training. 👏👏

  • @brianjarrell9203
    @brianjarrell9203 4 місяці тому +4

    I’d be interested to see this done with targets further out to see how much of a difference there is at distance.

  • @Mako-sz4qr
    @Mako-sz4qr 4 місяці тому +5

    Nice 👍🏻🇺🇸 the Glock is like wearing a tank top and the shadow is like wearing a polo shirt… to bed

  • @S1deshowRob
    @S1deshowRob 4 місяці тому +15

    I like both, that’s why one of my favorite pistols is the CZ P-10

    • @jessegpresley
      @jessegpresley 4 місяці тому +1

      The P10 weighs what the Glock does.

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember 4 місяці тому +2

      @@jessegpresley
      It isn't as flat, but better ergos.

  • @yarghhargh9345
    @yarghhargh9345 4 місяці тому +5

    Its sorta like a kitchen knife. I have my Japanese made $1000+ knife that is perfectly balanced, sharp, and works well. I also have a 10 dollar knife i picked up from a thrift store, sharpened, that works just as well.

  • @abigger04
    @abigger04 4 місяці тому

    One of my favorite vids

  • @hopewilliams6705
    @hopewilliams6705 4 місяці тому

    Absolutely fantastic presentation! And this is why when someone that is truly talented with a firearm shoots any platform it performs or should I say they perform. Yes they are going to have a preference but it isn't the difference.

  • @Miguelangelfilms94
    @Miguelangelfilms94 2 місяці тому

    Wow that was impressivr

  • @tomsanders6267
    @tomsanders6267 4 місяці тому

    Tremendous grip strength.

  • @abadonael
    @abadonael 4 місяці тому +1

    But this is a drill. Can you make a simple stage with moving and transitions and compare the hitfactor?(maybe best of 3 for each to make it more fair in terms of which gun was used first..) For me CZ is easier to control and therefore I just feel more confident with it and get both better time and hits

  • @daveshadenuff187
    @daveshadenuff187 3 місяці тому

    I shot a Cz for the first time the other day,and it was actually a Cz P-07.I have shot also a fair amount of Glocks recently,and for me they do not compare.The trigger on the Cz is amazing that i shot,and I actually liked the sights for what it was.I feel Glock isn’t bad,but if you go by how a Cz shoots,compared to a Glock,and the sights,trigger,accuracy,and overall feel of the gun.I believe I’d take the Cz in my opinion.I just felt it was a lot easier to shoot,and be on target with,now if I shot Glocks all the time,and was use to them,like I am my M&P 2.0.I am sure you don’t have that problem with any pistol with how badass of a marksman you are.I think you could shoot any gun,and be on target 99% of the time lol.

  • @practicepractice5719
    @practicepractice5719 4 місяці тому

    Thank you

  • @IBRAKEFORBEDROCK
    @IBRAKEFORBEDROCK 4 місяці тому +1

    Cool !

  • @AirborneVet
    @AirborneVet 4 місяці тому +1

    Hi Ben, thanks for the comparison. Question: do you think a novice/amateur level shooter will learn more using one platform vs the other? In other words, do you think a shooter may develop a higher personal skill level with a Glock vs a CZ due to the fact that it "takes more work" to shoot it well?
    I've heard it said that heavy guns with super light triggers, etc, can mask poor fundamentals to a certain extent. So, I wonder if the less forgiving gun can push a shooter into better fundamentals.

  • @SilasWeber-oi2gb
    @SilasWeber-oi2gb 4 місяці тому

    I want a “real steel” division in tactical games or uspsa. No gear restrictions but use what you think you would use in real life

  • @RickLag8514
    @RickLag8514 4 місяці тому

    I've seen so many of his videos but this is the first time I have seen him shoot 😵

  • @TurboManFlex
    @TurboManFlex 4 місяці тому +1

    Some people convinced u can pay to win lolz

  • @johnelder7449
    @johnelder7449 4 місяці тому +1

    You should listen to what you said. That it is more difficukt-It requires .more training to shoot the glock as well as the Shadow . IT IS MORE DIFFICULT AND REQUIRES MORE TRAINING TO SHOOT THE glock as well as the Shadow. DAH !The shadow is easier to shoot well. Further, that conclusion is at a short distance.

  • @Mrjohnnymoo1
    @Mrjohnnymoo1 4 місяці тому

    I use a Platypus for my competition and EDC (Mainly because the majority of my muscle memory is 1911's despite not being very old, and only in my late 20's. A1911 was my first pistol gifted to me and has just felt right, I can rock my Glock 19 to a decently as well.)
    I've been shooting for 75% of my life, but only started shooting pistols in high school. I started to get a little bored with pistols, because I pretty consistently could hit most pistol targets I wanted without time constraints within 20ish yards. Two years ago I got a better job and really decided I wanted to crank up my pistol shooting speed. I'd shoot 150 rounds as fast as I felt I could doing bill drills and controlled pairs, I might have 1-6 shots on paper, but not on the torso, and a small majority in the center, but the whole overall torso peppered, including flesh wounds.
    These days, per some of your video's and Tony Wong, I'm practicing shooting faster than I feel like I can hit with the same ammo and drills. the result is that I will almost never have have a shot off the paper, and I'll have a fist sized hole center mass, but I'm still having issues with getting flyers 7-8 zone, and sometimes on on the black in the 9 zone and the target will still look fairly peppered despite the cent mass hole.
    Overall my grouping has shrink significantly, and the first few controlled pairs, I can almost touch my bullets often times.
    I'm not sure If I need to keep hammering this speed drills until my group keeps shrinking like it has, or if I should slow down now and try to focus more on fundamentals.
    You often preach speed, and tbh, I have way more fun trying to go fast, but I'm the only one at the public range shooting at this pace, and don't know if maybe it's time I slow it down just a hair and practice trying to group it tighter with a couple of percent lower speed. What do you think is generally going to be more beneficial when speaking with a broad stroke.
    I'd like to get professional training at some point, but it's got to go on hold with trying to buy a house with the way the current economy is and all.

  • @onpsxmember
    @onpsxmember 4 місяці тому

    Can you compare a G34 with the new G17L?
    You got tons of rounds through Glocks, would be cool to hear your take since they removed the weight elsewhere this time.

  • @vinnielupo6220
    @vinnielupo6220 4 місяці тому +1

    Ben, what is some advice you'd give to cops. I'm on a swat team and some team members are completely against the competition type training. I've been shooting uspsa and idpa for a few years now and only because of my competition training have I seen major improvement guys who simply train marksmanship in the LE world I can't say I've seen to much improvement.

    • @BenStoeger187
      @BenStoeger187  4 місяці тому +1

      Tell them to slow down and get their hits

    • @vinnielupo6220
      @vinnielupo6220 4 місяці тому

      How about "no ones going to be impressed at how fast you can miss" lol

  • @Tommyramma
    @Tommyramma 4 місяці тому +4

    Well you settled my question. Why do I draw slower with my shadow 2 (1.17s) than my VP9 (0.84s)? Is it the weight and double action? No, just me…

    • @SectionChief
      @SectionChief 4 місяці тому +1

      It’s the narrower CZ grip for me, that makes me slower on my first shot, compared to other pistols.

    • @michall3918
      @michall3918 4 місяці тому +1

      Its mostly weight for me. Also i cant really scoop draw Shadow - also because of weight. When i shot Glock for competition i easily did 0.8s using scoop draw, now with Shadow 2 i avarage at about 1.3s and i dont see a way to go around 1s. DA doesnt help but that is only a factor when drawing to harder shots.

    • @UrbanDefenseSystems
      @UrbanDefenseSystems 4 місяці тому +2

      Ben started shooting with Berettas and moved onto Tangfolios/CZs that are DA/SA, so he's VERY used to a DA/SA trigger. The average joe will definitely have an easier time drawing something like your VP9 and getting a faster first shot than with a heavier DA/SA gun.

    • @simonepellegrini2389
      @simonepellegrini2389 4 місяці тому +1

      Same for me Glock vs CZ from draw to first shot, but that comes once in a stage. Then we have splits between shots, transitions, far steels, bobbers, you name it. I found myself more on the edge of the Miss with Glock on bobbers than I’m with a heavier CZ with SA after first shot. CZ Sp-01 is the choice gun for me at the moment for Production/SSP

    • @UrbanDefenseSystems
      @UrbanDefenseSystems 4 місяці тому +2

      @@simonepellegrini2389 I am 110% in agreement. If I am doing certain "stand and deliver" things, I prefer the Glock or something I can be very fast with. With a normal USPSA match, a heavy metal frame pistol is the best choice.

  • @690sm
    @690sm 4 місяці тому

    But but but.... You are much much much faster with a Tanfoglio 😊

  • @MichaelMaduske
    @MichaelMaduske 4 місяці тому +1

    For Ben’s next comparison video,
    he will be taking laps in a Mustang GT at Road Atlanta with professional race car driver Randy Pobst, driving a stock Mazda Miata. Watch how Randy destroys Ben. Moral of the story, it is the craftsman, not the tools.

  • @jrdaparker
    @jrdaparker 4 місяці тому

    So I’m a D class shooter that wants to move up. I just bought a Cajanizd CZ Shadow 2 at the end of the season last year. I’m doing much better with it than I do with my Glock 34. So think a better gun in the hands of a sucky shooter helps, while a it doesn’t matter as much in the hands of a Grand Master.

  • @rolotomase1440
    @rolotomase1440 4 місяці тому

    Now what's the difference with a dot...or not?

  • @michaelhoefler2852
    @michaelhoefler2852 4 місяці тому +2

    Try the Glock with the lighter ammo

    • @williamryan9195
      @williamryan9195 4 місяці тому

      Good call. Ammo makes a difference for sure.

  • @Gatsquatch.300
    @Gatsquatch.300 4 місяці тому

    How far away was that? Ima go practice the progression you just did me like

  • @rustyjames2202
    @rustyjames2202 4 місяці тому

    Subtext: But I can run both. Kaplow.

  • @wolf_hound
    @wolf_hound 4 місяці тому

    How would you compare so far with your experiences with 2011(staccato) vs CZ? Just asking personal preferences etc

  • @sgtsawhill1
    @sgtsawhill1 4 місяці тому

    Given the choice,, I'll take the cz 100% of the time.

  • @stephenriddick4592
    @stephenriddick4592 4 місяці тому

    Ben do you not like the tanfoglio stock 3 pro or was there a fall out with tanfoglio

  • @NateRunsGuns
    @NateRunsGuns 4 місяці тому

    Hey Ben, or really anyone who can help me with my problem; How do i practice target transitions in dry fire? What is a good way to set up said stages?
    I have quickly worked my way up from C to A class in steel challenge and USPSA in a couple of months thanks to your books, but i am having trouble on some of my very wide target transitions where the targets are 5-10 yards apart or on opposite ends of the stage. What is a good way to practice those situations, and is there a drill that you prefer to use solely for transitional accuracy?

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember 4 місяці тому

      Click on his channel, find the loup to search, type in transitions. Add a question on one of those 3 videos.

  • @randalljeffs7272
    @randalljeffs7272 4 місяці тому

    It’s the Indian not the arrow

  • @RimfireAddicted70
    @RimfireAddicted70 4 місяці тому

    Let's just cut the BS and face reality, Ben could strap on a Hi-Point and probably get numbers not that far off. With his training and volume of rounds fired to get that muscle memory for every movement exact he's going to be fast no matter what. No one should really be surprised by this at all. Everyone talks about how fast his motion is and that is true but don't over look his eyes, his ability to focus and mentally control what and where to look is not what the average shooter sees. I'd like to see him do another video discussing more on the mental side of what he is looking at during a COF and how he decides what is important to look at and what is not.

  • @williampennock4827
    @williampennock4827 4 місяці тому

    Calm the fudge down with the pertinence, you will break the internet

  • @ikeo1
    @ikeo1 4 місяці тому

    So you’re saying it’s me and not the gun? 😅

  • @TheRancor53
    @TheRancor53 4 місяці тому

    Glocks are great but they never group as tight for me as more ergonomic options like the M&P 2.0. Even the p320 full size cold is a little tighter than Glock and I don’t really like that platform as much.

    • @williamryan9195
      @williamryan9195 4 місяці тому

      The Glock is a service pistol. The shadow is geared for competition.Too much made of having tight groupings IMHO.All of those shots were on the money and that is what counts in the real World.

    • @TheRancor53
      @TheRancor53 4 місяці тому

      @@williamryan9195 true but the Walther PDP HK VP9 and Smith & Wesson MNP are service pistols and group better for me than a stock Glock

  • @jsacodes916
    @jsacodes916 4 місяці тому

    Which Glock is that?

    • @fkrr5
      @fkrr5 2 місяці тому

      glock 34

  • @edvergarajr
    @edvergarajr 4 місяці тому

    I think this is a repost? @ben

  • @gansior4744
    @gansior4744 4 місяці тому

    Wait, so you are telling me that all those shooters with expensive 320's and no training,, wont be good shooters??

  • @gunner-runner14
    @gunner-runner14 4 місяці тому

    Nearly stock ? Glock

    • @aleks2194
      @aleks2194 4 місяці тому +3

      the optic did not come in the box

    • @TheRancor53
      @TheRancor53 4 місяці тому

      He put a Taran Trigger in one of his 34s I believe

    • @UrbanDefenseSystems
      @UrbanDefenseSystems 4 місяці тому +1

      @@TheRancor53 Not even a trigger, just a change of a few springs and the connector.

  • @paddypibblet846
    @paddypibblet846 4 місяці тому

    Glock is way better. Not only is it a gun that Ben isn't tuned in with, but he basically did the same with it as his main pistol. Imagine once he puts a few years behind the Glock? XD

  • @leftyo9589
    @leftyo9589 4 місяці тому

    dude, your corn flakes got in my wheaties. thats the sum of this. if you can use the tool, it ultimately doesnt make a big difference.

  • @zachfskipper
    @zachfskipper 4 місяці тому +4

    So if i buy a glock I'll get more gooder like you?

  • @evanf7334
    @evanf7334 4 місяці тому +1

    But but but Ben I need my staccato xc bc it makes me a better shooter and muh fit and finish is better than a Glock. I swear it’s like a laser beam😩

    • @brucejohnson8096
      @brucejohnson8096 4 місяці тому

      Well, Ben shoots a Staccato XC faster & more accurately than any of his Glocks - the difference will be even bigger for less skilled shooters, which is about 99.999999% of us.

    • @UrbanDefenseSystems
      @UrbanDefenseSystems 4 місяці тому

      @@brucejohnson8096 It's an open gun though, he can't use it for competition. If he brought his Staccato XC he'd get smoked by TRUE open guns. Unless you're talking about tactical applications, in which case I wouldn't trust a Staccato for that.

    • @brucejohnson8096
      @brucejohnson8096 4 місяці тому

      @@UrbanDefenseSystems Well, the XC is legal for IDPA Carry Optics and probably the most competitive option for that application. Also, I'd bet Ben would smoke majority of USPSA / IPSC Open shooters (not including Eric Grauffel et. al.) shooting the XC. Moreover, in my experience Staccatos are VERY reliable and they're approved for duty use by several PDs here in the US. But none of this was the point of my original post - I was merely saying that most shooters, Ben included, are going to shoot the XC faster & more accurately than any Glock. Capisci?

    • @UrbanDefenseSystems
      @UrbanDefenseSystems 4 місяці тому

      @@brucejohnson8096 Ben is a damn good shooter, but he's not going to walk into Open with a Staccato XC and smoke everyone with the exception of Eric as you put it lol. If you've shot a true open gun, you would know the XC is still a league below them. The Military and PDs aren't known for making the best choices. They're just as prone to propaganda as anyone else. All it takes is one old out of touch guy in a position of power to make a choice that affects everyone. You see cops always having problems with their glocks in shoot outs because they don't clean the things, and Glocks are known for chugging on for a while without cleaning. Unless the cop is a gun guy, the XC in the average cops hands is going to be even more of a mess. Luckily its just an option and not a forced pistol on a PD.
      I don't disagree with your last statement though. But there are people who truly just prefer Glocks, which is why guys like Bob Vogel shot with Glocks in Limited rather than using 2011s. I myself like the grip angle of Glocks so I will shoot it better than a 2011.

    • @brucejohnson8096
      @brucejohnson8096 4 місяці тому

      @@UrbanDefenseSystems Hey Urban, your reading comprehension seems to be slightly off, since you're claiming I stated "smoke everyone with the exception of Eric as you put it", when I in fact wrote "I bet Ben would smoke majority of USPSA / IPSC Open shooters (not including Eric Grauffel et. al.) ".
      You should also reread my previous comment with the understanding that “Et al.” is an abbreviation of the Latin term “et alia,” which means “and others.”
      Have a nice day!

  • @williamryan9195
    @williamryan9195 4 місяці тому

    I know you are a Pro-shooter but what is with the casual no look-in rebolstering? I have been winching at these Glock videos since I watched the Sheriffs Deputy shoot him self in the thigh doing a no-look in a gun store. He's not the only guy to do it either. Must be 50 Glocke'd myself in the leg videos. All had one thing in common. They all were not looking the pistol back in on the re-holster.

    • @abigailsaoirsefinnegan
      @abigailsaoirsefinnegan 4 місяці тому

      training and a quality holster tend to help.

    • @williamryan9195
      @williamryan9195 4 місяці тому

      @@abigailsaoirsefinnegan Re-holstering safely is part of training is it not?All the others involved in the videos showing them shooting themselves were policemen/Trained law enforcement with quality equipment and they were all doing no look holstering except one guy who was a part of a training class and had a discharge while drawing his weapon.

    • @abigailsaoirsefinnegan
      @abigailsaoirsefinnegan 4 місяці тому

      @williamryan9195 cops aren't very well trained. most quality once or twice a year. I can reholster without looking just fine and I'm not a cop. I've just taken the time to get trained by reputable instructors. I also dry fire exponentially more than I live fire.

    • @williamryan9195
      @williamryan9195 4 місяці тому

      @@abigailsaoirsefinnegan You are missing my point. I can re-holster just fine without looking as could the others that had issues with accidental discharge. The reason we ALL should look the gun back into the holster each time and the reason some instructors insist is because if something gets caught in the holster, Clothing, piece of cord etc, you will see it before something bad happens. It only takes one mistake and there is no reason not to be careful while re-holstering.

    • @abigailsaoirsefinnegan
      @abigailsaoirsefinnegan 4 місяці тому

      @@williamryan9195 training issue. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

  • @evanf7334
    @evanf7334 4 місяці тому

    Lol Ben never said he shoots the staccato faster than his Glock. The cope is real.