If it isfuel injected see if you can get a tune. Or look into a carb swap the 450 dirtbikes had som much torque at 1/4 to 1/2 throttle in 06 before fuel injection they were almost to touchy to ride. I think that is a big reason they went to fuel injection is because of customers that wanted to ride in woods etc and not be in a wheelie with a 12 foot rooster every bump They hit.
I’ve been riding my 600rr lately and it feels Weird that I can actually twist the throttle all the way when I want to under control. Trying that on my liter bike is like calling my girl by her sisters name while riding doggy style.
I know that the updated version of the bike the 450 sr s has a single sided swing arm and it looks really good!! It supposed to hit the US early 2024 👍🏼
@@LunringNassar the cfmoto450ss is their cheap budget. While the 450srs is premium one. Just like zx10r and zx10rr. The RR u get marchesini wheel and titanium connecting rod internals.
Expect based on how much you pay. In our country at least, it is the cheaper vs other 400-500cc bikes. If power is a issue with you, don't get this bike or don't get a 400-500cc at all. If you are used to high powered bikes like 900+cc and up, riding this bike feels dull. But if you came from riding small cc bikes (south east asians used 100-160cc motorcycles more vs to higher cc) where this bike demographics are designed, thats plenty of power. I had driven honda cb650r and kawasaki z1000 and that blew me as i am used to drive suzuki raider 150cc and yamaha sniper 150.
IKR, This is the same Big Tech CC syndrome, They are so used to High-power expensive tech, that when they review a budget tech they simply call it garbage and judge it with the same standards as the expensive products. But in reality, you get what you pay for,
@@Snowaxe3D sometimes people want to have the "best" regardless the value of money. Yeah, they have much more value on resale market but if you are paying premium price on a thing cuz you think it has more "value" base on resale that is useless if you want to keep that thing. CF pricing is design to reach those people who want to get into riding motorcycle without the hefty amount. There are a lot of things that they will learn on riding this "entry lvl" sports bike, if they outgrew the bike they can upgrade to a bigger CC without the big dent on their banks even they resell cf on lower price since they bought it cheap on the first place.
@@goldenbayzee5940 I get your point, but there's always a sweet spot depending on the rider. Though adobo is really used to riding in high horsepower and high torque bikes, that might be the reason why that 450 felt nothing to him, he got desensitized.
That swingarm weld had little to no heat penetration and looks like it was made out of pot metal. Nah man, im referring people to get a ZX-4R or ZX-400 if they want a sport bike to start out.
That's gixxer influence right there, you ride with them for 20 minutes and all of the sudden you feel the need to downshift and upshift at the same time and yell SUZUUUKIIIII at the top of your lungs while passing traffic😂
@@nick4506 No they arent lmao, the very least CFMoto 450 uses a Chromoly steel frame, far superior to the steel used in Ninja 400 and R3 bikes. And these are beginner bikes, they are made with budget in mind. You guys have a delusional view of bikes just because of branding.
@@nick4506this bike is leagues better than all those bikes in features . Build quaility isnt even bad. R3 is bad Kawasaki isnt better both those bikes made in thailand amyways
@@banana-ui2qd features? ktms got switchable cornering abs and suspension from a real suspension company. ninja is down exactly 1hp and has got the finest transmission in motorcycling with a real 150 rear rim size and an optional 3 year warrenty that blows the cf out of the water(non abs is 400$ cheaper too). r3 comes with real honest to goodness traction control. all of these companies have great parts avalibility that you can just order online. and for bikes over 30 years old so you know you will be supported no matter what happens. also steller aftermarket support. cf moto parts are handeled by a rv company and dont have side panels for a bike they made in 2019. Imagine it's ten years on and you need a new clutch basket for this bespoke Chinese engine, good luck.
Everyone on small cc bikes moans about the tyre size. The manufacturer does this for a specific reason. The size of the wheel and the width are that way for a reason. Font moan, just accept it. Don't mess with the geometry of the bike unless you need to and you understand the repercussions of those changes. Also WTAF... the swing arm 🤦 it's they gave up and just said.. "fk it, that'll do lads I wana go home"
The high rent Japanese bikes have cast aluminum swingarms etc. The cfmoto are most certainly cheaper because they are just mild steel. This is where their low prices is made possible. Its just as strong, if not stronger than the aluminum. Just a little bit heavier and not as pretty. But when it comes right down to it, it would be possible to make a given "thing" out of steel, lighter. Because steel is much lighter for it's strength.
Well I first started riding on a 2014 ninja 300. However when I got it it was already modified by a women. It was white black and purple which was nice combo but I fell on some dirt going like 30 🤦♂️ but ended up rebuilding it and got new fairings. All blacked out with new lights and a cool ass tail light. It came out so nice I miss it. Even tho it was a 300 it was so much fun to bang up and down the gears in towns vs cruising on a 600 or more in 1st or 2nd gear. It for a 300 it was pretty fast and I could keep up with the bigger bikes on group rides Mai Lu cuz I was able to handle the corners better. It had a flashed ecu a full mpg exhaust kit and had a top speed of a bit over 138 which was pretty cool. And it also had surprisingly good torque. I had no problem keeping up on the highways and passing most cars. Really wish I kept the bike. It I wanted something faster since I’m pretty good with vehicles I got good at riding pretty fast. My 300 was even faster then a ninja 400 with a nice exhaust system that one of the guys had in our group. Anyways the women I got it from did a good job running and modifying the bike for power. Was such a good little bike.
@@driftingastronaut are u adobomoto? Then the “paragraphs” is not for you buddy. But thank you for taking the time of your sooo busy life to notice the “paragraphs” that was meant for someone else. Anyways enjoy it and your day/night 😊
you get what you paid for 🤷🏼♂️ I’ve got the CFMoto 650NK and I love it but I knew I’d be making some concessions buying a cheaper Chinese bike than a “premium” Japanese bike. The 450SS is also in its first year of production and CFMoto is still super new in the north american motorcycle market. Maybe three to five years from now when they have the market capital to really boost production quality they’ll ACTUALLY rival japanese bikes but I don’t fool myself with what I bought
I absolutely can not see how that company will survive in the market. You can get a proper bike that's 3 years old for the same price, and it's not made from chinesium. What is the value preposition that would push you in the direction of that bike?
The 450SS is made in Austria, and designed by an Italian. Calling it a "chinese" bike because the brand is HQ'd in China isn't exactly providing credit where it's due. The power band being in a weird spot has nothing to do with CFMoto being a Chinese Company. Most of your comment doesn't even really make sense. The 450SS is remarkably well put together. It has the exact same build quality as KTM bikes. Why? Because they're literally made in the same factory.
@@Tazytots Idk, my bike was manufactured in China. KTM builds theirs bikes in India, Indonesia and China (right alongside the CFMotos). Their engines are made in Austria. CFMotos are Chinese, there is no arguing against that.
I own one and yeah, same gripes on the swingarm and rearsets. The rear tire size is understandable though with the amount of power it has. 450cc bike with more features and cheaper than the Ninja 400 has to cut costs somewhat.
@@paulhope3401 Nothing definite yet since it's only been out for a year or so but I've been locally seeing ones being sold for 5/6th the original price with pretty low odo. I'm guessing that it might depreciate same or more than the Ninja since, well, it's not a Ninja but who knows?
I know you're a sports bike channel, but can you tell if the cfmoto Leader 150 is any good? It's a blatant cb125 clone (with an extra 25cc I guess?) But I don't find many reviews and they're usually extremely cheap. I think they'd make a great base for a cafe racer but I need something reliable too
Nah Chinese bikes are trash that swingarm could snap and end ur life on the highway not safe and they’re never gonna be as good quality or performance as Japanese and name brand bikes
I don't even ride sport bikes but seriously? Apart than the swingarm rest is the bullcrap. It's a 450cc budget motorcycle, you can't have all those expectations from it.
I can confirm that even a bajaj bike like a Dominar 400 has better build quality than a CFMoto and are cheaper too, this swingarm looks so cheap in terms of welding, no wonder somone broke his CFMoto in a rode bump.
I had a cfmoto as well, living Beijing. Really didn’t last long on it. Powerband was so wonky it hurt me inside to ride. Sold it and bought a shineray xy400 instead. Sick bike!
There is no issue passing cars what so ever on this bike.....I have blown pass cars on Hwy 94 heading towards Chicago. I also blow pass cars on my commute to work. He is just mad, so trying to talk bad about a bike he barely has seat time on. I rode this bike 15 straight days before I broke my foot....no wasn't a motorcycle accident. I currently have 45 days of riding this bike.....just waiting to get my cast off.
If it's fuel injected see if you can get a tune. Or look into a carb swap the 450 dirtbikes had som much torque at 1/4 to 1/2 throttle in 06 before fuel injection they were almost to touchy to ride. I think that is a big reason they went to fuel injection is because of customers that wanted to ride in woods etc and not be in a wheelie with a 12 foot rooster every bump They hit
Also there's a company that is doing some tunes for these. I think it's msc cycles or something on UA-cam. So want a little more torque send the computer to them and have em flash it.
Funny thing is when they unveiled it it has a single sided swing arm and a dual exhaust but they said f it we need it a little cheaper, you can buy those upgrades which is why it's still a great bike and my dream bike actually even though i only plan on getting the 300sr
So im considering doing an engine swap on a last gen ninja 250 USDM and keeping it carbureted. I estimate that i can make an extra 10 to 15 HP with the extra 50cc's. We will see though.
I know you're full of it. I pass cars all day long on this without needing to downshift then upshift. I own this bike got 700 miles in on it since new. Maybe if you didn't ride that Aprillia. Might I add notorious for oil leaks. My buddy had one that leaked oil every time he parked it. He bought it new....kept having to add oil every time he rode it. Dealership told him was fixed on 3 occasions........He eventually tired of its issues and got rid of it. The rear sets can be changed out, and why would you hide them?
you are never going to get the torque that you want. its just part of the experience of this class of bike. just have to learn that you don't need to pass cars to enjoy two wheels. the liter bike with fat chicken strips crowd arent gonna like it.
first vid with no gixxer rider joke
wrong. just the first one you've seen
I you feel compelled to do so we won't stop you son
Oh, you missed it?
The joke is that they are forgettable
My hornet 250 has 40hp and I have to rev the ever living f#ck out of it if I want to pass someone in a timely manner 😂
What country are you in where you have a hornet 250? Beautiful little bike that looks like a ton of fun to ride.
Is it fuel injected?
If it isfuel injected see if you can get a tune. Or look into a carb swap the 450 dirtbikes had som much torque at 1/4 to 1/2 throttle in 06 before fuel injection they were almost to touchy to ride. I think that is a big reason they went to fuel injection is because of customers that wanted to ride in woods etc and not be in a wheelie with a 12 foot rooster every bump They hit.
I’ve been riding my 600rr lately and it feels Weird that I can actually twist the throttle all the way when I want to under control. Trying that on my liter bike is like calling my girl by her sisters name while riding doggy style.
@@danielfrazier840 there's still carbs after 2012 for 450s, my 2011 450 EXC is carbed
That swing arm looks like a part of an IKEA furniture with a plastic plug for the sharp end
I know that the updated version of the bike the 450 sr s has a single sided swing arm and it looks really good!! It supposed to hit the US early 2024 👍🏼
I’m upset I bought my 450SS. But did you see the CFMOTO 1000cc V4 they are releasing!?
@@brennenroubique5994that shii is crazy I've seen it 190bhp
Bro if they cant even make a decent normal swingarm what makes u think the single sided is better HAHAHAH
@@LunringNassar😂
@@LunringNassar the cfmoto450ss is their cheap budget. While the 450srs is premium one. Just like zx10r and zx10rr. The RR u get marchesini wheel and titanium connecting rod internals.
So excited to see what you do with this bike 🍻
Expect based on how much you pay. In our country at least, it is the cheaper vs other 400-500cc bikes. If power is a issue with you, don't get this bike or don't get a 400-500cc at all. If you are used to high powered bikes like 900+cc and up, riding this bike feels dull. But if you came from riding small cc bikes (south east asians used 100-160cc motorcycles more vs to higher cc) where this bike demographics are designed, thats plenty of power. I had driven honda cb650r and kawasaki z1000 and that blew me as i am used to drive suzuki raider 150cc and yamaha sniper 150.
IKR,
This is the same Big Tech CC syndrome,
They are so used to High-power expensive tech, that when they review a budget tech they simply call it garbage and judge it with the same standards as the expensive products.
But in reality, you get what you pay for,
@@Snowaxe3D sometimes people want to have the "best" regardless the value of money. Yeah, they have much more value on resale market but if you are paying premium price on a thing cuz you think it has more "value" base on resale that is useless if you want to keep that thing. CF pricing is design to reach those people who want to get into riding motorcycle without the hefty amount. There are a lot of things that they will learn on riding this "entry lvl" sports bike, if they outgrew the bike they can upgrade to a bigger CC without the big dent on their banks even they resell cf on lower price since they bought it cheap on the first place.
maybe changing the sprockets might help?
If you feel like you're lacking torque on a 450, then changing the sprockets will render the bike almost useless at highway speeds
@@goldenbayzee5940 I get your point, but there's always a sweet spot depending on the rider. Though adobo is really used to riding in high horsepower and high torque bikes, that might be the reason why that 450 felt nothing to him, he got desensitized.
Can't wait for the new grips you're gonna get for the r6 v🔥
Front and rear tire in the same size caught me off guard 😭
That swingarm weld had little to no heat penetration and looks like it was made out of pot metal. Nah man, im referring people to get a ZX-4R or ZX-400 if they want a sport bike to start out.
That swingarm reaffirms my view that Chinese bikes are cheap tat.
It's a 500 cc motorcycle. What do you expect it to do? It's not intended for highway speeds.
That's gixxer influence right there, you ride with them for 20 minutes and all of the sudden you feel the need to downshift and upshift at the same time and yell SUZUUUKIIIII at the top of your lungs while passing traffic😂
That swing arm is crazy.
Cheap bike is cheap. Shocking! 😅
what are they expecting from $5k lol, i guess these were built to learn on, not to last
@@valentinabaphomet ninja 400, r3, ktm390 are all in that price bracket and they are worlds better built. maybe the extra 5hp is worth it.
@@nick4506 No they arent lmao, the very least CFMoto 450 uses a Chromoly steel frame, far superior to the steel used in Ninja 400 and R3 bikes. And these are beginner bikes, they are made with budget in mind. You guys have a delusional view of bikes just because of branding.
@@nick4506this bike is leagues better than all those bikes in features . Build quaility isnt even bad. R3 is bad Kawasaki isnt better both those bikes made in thailand amyways
@@banana-ui2qd features? ktms got switchable cornering abs and suspension from a real suspension company. ninja is down exactly 1hp and has got the finest transmission in motorcycling with a real 150 rear rim size and an optional 3 year warrenty that blows the cf out of the water(non abs is 400$ cheaper too). r3 comes with real honest to goodness traction control.
all of these companies have great parts avalibility that you can just order online. and for bikes over 30 years old so you know you will be supported no matter what happens. also steller aftermarket support.
cf moto parts are handeled by a rv company and dont have side panels for a bike they made in 2019. Imagine it's ten years on and you need a new clutch basket for this bespoke Chinese engine, good luck.
Everyone on small cc bikes moans about the tyre size. The manufacturer does this for a specific reason. The size of the wheel and the width are that way for a reason. Font moan, just accept it. Don't mess with the geometry of the bike unless you need to and you understand the repercussions of those changes. Also WTAF... the swing arm 🤦 it's they gave up and just said.. "fk it, that'll do lads I wana go home"
The high rent Japanese bikes have cast aluminum swingarms etc. The cfmoto are most certainly cheaper because they are just mild steel. This is where their low prices is made possible. Its just as strong, if not stronger than the aluminum. Just a little bit heavier and not as pretty. But when it comes right down to it, it would be possible to make a given "thing" out of steel, lighter. Because steel is much lighter for it's strength.
Well I first started riding on a 2014 ninja 300. However when I got it it was already modified by a women. It was white black and purple which was nice combo but I fell on some dirt going like 30 🤦♂️ but ended up rebuilding it and got new fairings. All blacked out with new lights and a cool ass tail light. It came out so nice I miss it. Even tho it was a 300 it was so much fun to bang up and down the gears in towns vs cruising on a 600 or more in 1st or 2nd gear. It for a 300 it was pretty fast and I could keep up with the bigger bikes on group rides Mai Lu cuz I was able to handle the corners better. It had a flashed ecu a full mpg exhaust kit and had a top speed of a bit over 138 which was pretty cool. And it also had surprisingly good torque. I had no problem keeping up on the highways and passing most cars. Really wish I kept the bike. It I wanted something faster since I’m pretty good with vehicles I got good at riding pretty fast. My 300 was even faster then a ninja 400 with a nice exhaust system that one of the guys had in our group. Anyways the women I got it from did a good job running and modifying the bike for power. Was such a good little bike.
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@@driftingastronaut are u adobomoto? Then the “paragraphs” is not for you buddy. But thank you for taking the time of your sooo busy life to notice the “paragraphs” that was meant for someone else. Anyways enjoy it and your day/night 😊
Oh my god i was skeptical about the Chinese bikes before but after seeing that swingarm you couldn’t pay me to ride one 💀
But if you rode a Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki you most likely rode a Chinese bike. Better check your vin tags sweetheart.
you get what you paid for 🤷🏼♂️ I’ve got the CFMoto 650NK and I love it but I knew I’d be making some concessions buying a cheaper Chinese bike than a “premium” Japanese bike. The 450SS is also in its first year of production and CFMoto is still super new in the north american motorcycle market. Maybe three to five years from now when they have the market capital to really boost production quality they’ll ACTUALLY rival japanese bikes but I don’t fool myself with what I bought
i tired a cf moto 4 wheeler and it had no balls.
I absolutely can not see how that company will survive in the market. You can get a proper bike that's 3 years old for the same price, and it's not made from chinesium. What is the value preposition that would push you in the direction of that bike?
The 450SS is made in Austria, and designed by an Italian. Calling it a "chinese" bike because the brand is HQ'd in China isn't exactly providing credit where it's due.
The power band being in a weird spot has nothing to do with CFMoto being a Chinese Company. Most of your comment doesn't even really make sense. The 450SS is remarkably well put together. It has the exact same build quality as KTM bikes. Why? Because they're literally made in the same factory.
@@littlejackalo5326 They’ve been making off road vehicles for a while now lmao they’ve just expected to NA. They’ll survive quite easily.
@@Tazytots Idk, my bike was manufactured in China. KTM builds theirs bikes in India, Indonesia and China (right alongside the CFMotos). Their engines are made in Austria. CFMotos are Chinese, there is no arguing against that.
I own one and yeah, same gripes on the swingarm and rearsets. The rear tire size is understandable though with the amount of power it has. 450cc bike with more features and cheaper than the Ninja 400 has to cut costs somewhat.
How bad is depreciation on these compared to a Ninja 400?
@@paulhope3401 Nothing definite yet since it's only been out for a year or so but I've been locally seeing ones being sold for 5/6th the original price with pretty low odo. I'm guessing that it might depreciate same or more than the Ninja since, well, it's not a Ninja but who knows?
And the guy says it is sluggish...
I know you're a sports bike channel, but can you tell if the cfmoto Leader 150 is any good? It's a blatant cb125 clone (with an extra 25cc I guess?) But I don't find many reviews and they're usually extremely cheap. I think they'd make a great base for a cafe racer but I need something reliable too
Maybe the gearbox is strange on the cfmoto because I have a ninja 400 and I've never had a problem passing without shifting
Stop buying the cheap miserable children's bikes - which are not good for anything anyway...
quantity over quality
Nah Chinese bikes are trash that swingarm could snap and end ur life on the highway not safe and they’re never gonna be as good quality or performance as Japanese and name brand bikes
I don't even ride sport bikes but seriously? Apart than the swingarm rest is the bullcrap. It's a 450cc budget motorcycle, you can't have all those expectations from it.
Unfortunately my Yamaha fz6r has that same squared swing arm . That as poorly made, but still squared like that
What is the price difference between the two?
I can confirm that even a bajaj bike like a Dominar 400 has better build quality than a CFMoto and are cheaper too, this swingarm looks so cheap in terms of welding, no wonder somone broke his CFMoto in a rode bump.
I think you're describing the Ninja 500. Try that.
I understand why some bikes has the skinny rear wheel, but damn does it ruin the look of a bike
was wondering what exhaust r u using for the cf450
You will cry when its time to find spare part for china motorcycle 🤣🤣
I had a cfmoto as well, living Beijing. Really didn’t last long on it. Powerband was so wonky it hurt me inside to ride. Sold it and bought a shineray xy400 instead. Sick bike!
That swing are has gixxer bros everywhere drooling
I have this bike and it is a little bit annoying since I daily it, and when it rains that thang practically is in a permanent drift… 🤯
Talking trash on Gixxers cruising on a CF moto 😂😂😂😂 that takes balls
Upgrade advance ignition 8 degree free flow the intake and exhaust. Swap sprockets fixes your issue sir
There is no issue passing cars what so ever on this bike.....I have blown pass cars on Hwy 94 heading towards Chicago. I also blow pass cars on my commute to work. He is just mad, so trying to talk bad about a bike he barely has seat time on. I rode this bike 15 straight days before I broke my foot....no wasn't a motorcycle accident. I currently have 45 days of riding this bike.....just waiting to get my cast off.
its a sizable tyre for a 400cc
What is the price? Probably built to sell cheap. Does it stay together?
For the price, it's not bad
What you think about the cfmoto 300sr
If it's fuel injected see if you can get a tune. Or look into a carb swap the 450 dirtbikes had som much torque at 1/4 to 1/2 throttle in 06 before fuel injection they were almost to touchy to ride. I think that is a big reason they went to fuel injection is because of customers that wanted to ride in woods etc and not be in a wheelie with a 12 foot rooster every bump They hit
Any suggestions for a starter bike for someone wanting to get into motorcycles
Are you surprised that you need to downshift to pass on a beginner bike?
Wow that swing arm defective it supposed to be solid square tubing not folded to a square and weld it even miss the shape of a square...
Also there's a company that is doing some tunes for these. I think it's msc cycles or something on UA-cam. So want a little more torque send the computer to them and have em flash it.
Oh god forbid you have to use the gearbox!! Perhaps a 250cc scooter would be more your speed
Funny thing is when they unveiled it it has a single sided swing arm and a dual exhaust but they said f it we need it a little cheaper, you can buy those upgrades which is why it's still a great bike and my dream bike actually even though i only plan on getting the 300sr
The one thing all experienced riders agree on is that you never buy chinese.
So im considering doing an engine swap on a last gen ninja 250 USDM and keeping it carbureted. I estimate that i can make an extra 10 to 15 HP with the extra 50cc's. We will see though.
BRO THAT SWINGARM IS DEATH
Hey i have a kawasaki zzr 1100 carburetor engine and want to turn it into fuel injection, any help
That's pretty much the life story of every low displacement Chinese bike... downshifts do nothing but crank up the revs and you go nowhere...lol
Your aprilla hold nothing back when it comes to quality
Need to change the gear ration and you could get the torque
Can i ask one thing its about the handle grip ano po ang mairerecommend mo? I mean a kind of handlebar grip that is nice on your hands and palm
Man I'd just maybe swap out some sprockets🤷? Or tune it more for low end...
Bro hates on gixxers but owns a CFMoto
your 1985 Honda 125cc schooter is ready for you to pick up mr. motocycle expert/ racer/ movie star
I am not kidding in India people installed 200 section tyer on 18.HP MT15
Bro same with nk400 it's whack but manageable 😂
Well what do you expect from a chinese bike
What if you did new sprockets and chain wouldn’t that help with a higher top speed?
Honestly don't own a sportbike but skinny rear wheels are my pet peeve
just shy of 30 lbft of torque isn't all that bad for a light motorcycle.
My 94 VFR has about 53... I guess 28 lbft is pretty low actually.
Pretty much. I got a z400. Fun little bike. But slow and takes effort to effectively pass. And even at 5'4 and 145lbs this bike feels smallish.
The most un appeasing part of the bike is the lil dude riding it lol JK keep the rubber side down
“No bike is perfect” he says but continue’s to hate on GSXR’s like one was his daddy and left when he was a kid lol
Wait till u see the 450sr-s with a single sided swingarm 😂
Believe it or not the MT07 has the same style of rolled and welded swing arm
Have u done a ECU tune
I know you're full of it. I pass cars all day long on this without needing to downshift then upshift. I own this bike got 700 miles in on it since new. Maybe if you didn't ride that Aprillia. Might I add notorious for oil leaks. My buddy had one that leaked oil every time he parked it. He bought it new....kept having to add oil every time he rode it. Dealership told him was fixed on 3 occasions........He eventually tired of its issues and got rid of it. The rear sets can be changed out, and why would you hide them?
It sounds like it rides as bad as the build quality.
🌎 Japanese pulls wings 🌎
That Chinese Built Quality😐😐
It's Chinese. That should tell you everything
you are never going to get the torque that you want. its just part of the experience of this class of bike. just have to learn that you don't need to pass cars to enjoy two wheels. the liter bike with fat chicken strips crowd arent gonna like it.
No, I think it's just a you problem. "I need to down shift" yeah, cause you are used to 600's and liters
What do you expect from a really cheap Chinese motorcycle 😅
A 450 is never gonna have much power,, let alone have enough power to pass car's without downshifting 😂. Tune it up,, or put a big bore kit on it.
What you expect from Chinese brands ? 😂😂😂😂
That bike is trash 😂😂😂
At the end of the day, it is still a chinese bike. A very good quality chinese bike, but a motorcycle made in China.
Doesn't need a bigger tire.
Comparing it to a1000 is nuts
That stamped swing arm is concerning and that wield should have been all the way to the end
CF moto has bad reliability and breaks easily, don't be fooled by cheap chinese products boys, Quality really comes with a price
Dunlop tyre looks cool tho 🤷
On Ninja 400 with full line ECU and velocity stack. You get that pep you desire
450 tires is the same as the ninja 400
Wow, that’s swing arm looks so sketchy. Water could easily get in there and rust it from the inside
Do the most pinoy thing like its a raider, upsize the bore
You get what you pay for...
It's a Chinese made motorcycle, what do you expect lol?
Id rather go with the duke 390
Did you sell aprilia
So then do some performance mods Adobo! I wonder if you could turbo it 💀💀
You are the first person to take the time to shit all over a bike that’s better than the Kawasaki 400 ninja, the rc390 and the r3. Congratulations
Remember there is a single sided swingarm version of the same bike in china😶
Chinesium garbage, I'd never ride one because the live leak logo in my peripheral vision would be distracting
The swing arm on my gsxs750 is like this 😩😩😩