I liked how Mr. Lahey had that old Webley revolver as his sidearm while the boys had automatics. Showed how old school of a cop he used to be before the liquor got a hold of him.
@@michaelandreipalon359i think its ment to be a limmiter of sorts, after all, its not like the military will ever lose top secret prototypes, simultanious labor rampages, attack of giant cancer monster will ever happen in tokyo
@@memeboy8207 Well, there's the Schaft incidents, and also the occasional kaiju, ghost, mutant rodent, and sewer gator problem... but I digress at most.
They're supposedly a mecha interpretation of how Japanese cops are only allowed revolvers. Now neither am I Japanese nor have I seen Patlabor, but I've always wondered about that logic; I understand the idea of balancing a real life police force with armaments that can't gib scores of people at the pull of a trigger, but the logic doesn't fly as high with giant robots and cannon-sized weapons.
I'd completely forgotten about the mecha-sized revolver reload from Patlabor at 3:55. That was a neat touch by the creators, that reeked of government bureaucrats mandating an absurdly impractical system out of misplaced concerns. Nice find!
Actually finished watching the Patlabor animes a while back. There are two mainline continuities, not unlike Fullmetal Alchemist and Star Wars. The first consists of The Early Days OVAs, consisting of seven stories, plus the first and second movies; there's also a third, WXIII, but it feels really out of place... and there's also a live action sequel miniseries to this continuity, but I doubt I'll ever see it. The second consists of The TV Series and The New Files follow-up/interquel, consisting of 47 and 16 eps each. Oh, and one's better off watching them all on the original Japanese. The English dubs for the OVAs and TV series are left wanting, while the better Manga Entertainment dubs for the first and second movies are really hard to get.
As a kid, I remember my Uncle owning a Smith & Wesson Schofield " break top " revolver. He used to let me fire a couple of cylinders through it every now and then. What a time I had! Thanks Johnny for reminding me of a great childhood memory. 👍👍
When I was a kid, I had this revolver gun toy that you can insert some kind of gunpowder that will mimic a real-life gun noise when the trigger is pulled. The revolver was top break and for a good few years that I thought every revolvers were top break lol
I had something identical to what you described. The little "gunpowder" charges are called caps, and the (toy) guns designed to use them are consequently called cap guns.
Cap guns got canceled due to mistaken reports of firearm discharges. The company knew the hazards their toy posed and pushed them even harder expecting to be shelved much eerier then they were. I remember the sound of it periodically echoing in my childhood valley
@@piney4562 yes! Cap gun. Since I live in Indonesia, we call it as "pistol" meaning handgun literally. They were loud as hell but was so fun to play cop & robbers. I wish I could get them now so I could play Swat with friends lmao
@@donaldpetersen2382 well I just had one occassion the cap discharged from the gun and smack my friend on the cheek, nothing serious & he had no injury except for a small red mark on his cheek. Those guns were much safer than the airsoft sold freely back when I was a kid. Loud as heck yes but safe as long as you don't somehow fire it to your eyes in just a few centimeters away
Another awesome video, Johnny. I remember seeing Charlie Prince (played by Ben Foster) using a S&W Schofield in the 3:10 to Yuma remake. It forever solidified the badassery of the top-break revolver, in my mind.
My absolute favorite type of revolver. I've got a 1917 Webley Mark VI, a 1943 Webley Mark IV, and a 1934 H&R Sportsman Model 999. Nothing is more satisfying than pushing the thumb release, pulling the barrel down, and watching the spent cartridges all go flying. These old top-breaks are absolute works of art!
its not vaporware, that would insinuate that it was not fully developed or was only in concept, they were produced in small numbers but because of the main market having embargoed russia, who was the US, it never got into full production.@@SavageGreywolf
My grandfather brought one back from WW2, made at Tula in 1889 somehow it and a battle damaged 12mm pinfire came home with him after many battles in the Pacific including the flying column to free the POW camp by Manila. I can only guess maybe the Japanese captured it in the Russo Japanese War.
I remember in ‘Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade’, Indy takes out his gun and sees it has no bullets when it popped open…then his dad remembered his Charlemagne 😂
I would love to see a modern break action revolver. Of course it would be extremely difficult due to how strong the gases are with modern cartridges but still it’s just so cool lol
It's not actually a problem now with modern materials, just don't expect 500 s&w magnum out of them. The issue is cost and the fact that most gun companies aren't willing to take much risk in a niche product except maybe keltec.
You know it’s going be damn good video, when got Mr. Leahey and Randy. RIP John Dunsworth best actor to ever played a drunk. Next one target shooting and gun talk with Ricky. Great video as always
The iconic Webley and Enfield revolver featured in so many epic imperial movies: Zulu, The Four Feathers, Titanic, Lawrence of Arabia ( who was in fact a 45 govt 1911 user), Too Late the Hero. Wherever a plucky British officer needed to uphold decency and fair play by killing lots of natives, the break top action was close at hand.
My favorite part is the auto ejection for top breaks. Just break it open and all the casings come flying out. The Webley is my favorite example of them.
The story I was always told was that the break top revolver was designed for cavalry so the could reload and still hold the reigns and barrel at the same time
3:55 Nice use of Patlabor as an example for the video,an interesting yet deep franchise that mixes elements from Macross,Gundam and Police Academy Funfact:the so called Revolver cannon used by the AV-98 Ingram and AV-0 Peacemaker are in fact a scaled up version of the Colt Python .357 Magnum with a 4" barrel,with he caliber for the gun being of 37mm Now i see what kind of mech would Rick Grimes pilot!
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq You should have mentioned paper cartridges, which were commercially available on a wide scale. Things like wads and lube are more of a 20th century cowboy shooting propagation.
I like top break revolvers. The main disadvantage they have is that they are not as strong as solid frame, side swing revolvers and not suitable for the more powerful cartridges that came along in the late 1800s. Otherwise, they are much faster to load/unload. The S&W Schofield was preferred over the Colt SAA by cavalry because it could be unloaded quickly using just one hand, and was easier to load on horseback. I have a S&W Performance Center Schofield revolver I bought about 2002. Really fine revolver! It is the only single action revolver I own. I also own a S&W "Safety Hammerless" .38 and an Enfield MKII also in .38 S&W.
Someone that only has 5 rounds? Otherwise yeah that's weird. It doesn't even look like the empty cylinder is the one that would be under the hammer either; in case he was cautious in that way.
Load one skip one load four. That way when you decock the hammer, it comes down on an empty chamber. The old single actions didn't have any kind of safety.
@@jcraigie Nope, he still had more ammo on him, as he later reloaded his revolver, once again. Excellent answers to all who said that it was vital to leave an empty chamber beneath the hammer of a single-action revolver. In that case, we may have a technical movie-making problem because at one point in the film he's repeatedly pulling the trigger on what is now a dry weapon before throwing it at a Zulu in frustration, and you can plainly see/hear that it's a double-action. That said, I _believe_ he was using a Webley service revolver which at the time was indeed double-action. EDIT: A-HA! If you watch it closely enough, you can see that the chamber he leaves empty is _not_ the one beneath the hammer, and thus how he snaps it shut is of no consequence. So we're back to the beginning: He only loads 5 rounds into his double-action Webley with more ammo still in his pouch. I continue to be frustrated with this scene.
I have about a dozen assorted Top Breaks... They are Cool.... I sold one that I wish I would have kept years ago... It was a .455 Webley Scott.... "Wobbly Scott".... Haha!
3:10 for anyone wanting more information about revolvers, speedloaders and their use by police; see Paul Harrells video about the 1986 FBI Miami shootout.
No one in the cap and ball days carried a spare loaded cylinder, that is a movie trope. Carrying a loaded and capped cylinder is like handling a bomb, dropping or mishandling it could be disastrous.. Not to mention cylinders were not necessarily interchangeable, timing could be way off
Damn straight, swing out win out on being able to handle rounds with more pressure but aesthetically ya can't beat the beauty and cool factor of a top break revolver. Personal favourite is the Webley Fosbery, not only top break but a early example of the weird niche of recoil operated revolvers.
I used to have a snubnose H&R top-break revolver. Kind of resembled a Webley...38 S&W rather than 38 Special. It was actually a solid little gun, but the ammo was kind of hard to come by.
The Speed Loaders Segment as well as the Dump Pouches remind me of Paul Harrel's Analysis of the 1986 Miami Dade Shooting. Cool Video as always, Thank you Johnny!
One occasional thing that happens sometimes with revolvers with the automatic ejectors is that the ejector can slip past the rim of a cartridge and will then jam the case under the ejector when it snaps back. This isn’t a problem with manual ejectors for obvious reasons.
I like the top break revolvers, I still have a couple. A Hopkins and Alleen and a Iver Johnson's, both are in the old 38 s&w, and both are from the 1890s. Thanks for the video.
I always wanted a Schofield revolver. I've fired a few (original and reproductions) and they have a certain quickness to them similar to a P08 Luger. It's just a comfortable pistol to use.
2:14 while the Webley top-break would not be invented for some time. Tranter 1879 top-break COULD have been privately purchased for officers just in time for the Anglo-Zulu war ua-cam.com/video/Hc9xJNHeT_0/v-deo.html
"I see you have an eye for things! Gun's not just bout shootin, it's bout reloadin! You'll know what I'm talkin about!"-The Merchant RE4 about the Broken Butterfly revolver
Logically top break revolvers were seen as more pratical than, f.e., the Classic Colt 1873, with it you had to eject the spent rounds one by one, contrary to an Adams & likes.
0:45: Strangely riveting, the gunshop sequence focusing on Tuco. That guy is as nicely surprising as Don Quixote and Sancho Panza altogether. 3:25: When in doubt, just watch this on the Director's Cut. Just saying. 3:55: Good old Patlabor: The Movie, Alphonse, and Noa Izumi... hehe, why must their revolver cannons be so impractically reloaded, up to the point of characters lampshading it in the course of the multi-continuity franchise? Anywho, in my (mostly fiction based) perspective, revolvers in my eyes should be sided, while shotguns and certain rifle and demo weapons are on top.
1:50 There's mention of both carrying multiple revolvers and swapping cylinders in either Grant's or Sherman's memoirs (I forget which). He said it was not uncommon for a cavalryman to carry two holstered revolvers in the front and two in the back in a cross draw style while mounted. Bloody Bill Anderson was found to have six revolvers on his person when he was killed. Also they preferred the "Navy" model Colts because it was significantly lighter than the 1860 Army. But anyway, if you have the cross wedge pin in the Colt worn in and greased, it's easy to knock it out and change a cylinder just as fast as you can on the 1858 Remington. Either way, reloading a cylinder is faster than emptying and reloading cartridges one by one. Also, it's worth noting that the Starr revolvers (there was a SA and a DA) were both top-break AND used percussion caps. Although it's not a latch, you have to unscrew a pin
They are making reproductions of the Model 3 .Now they need to bring back Top Break rounds like the .455 Webley but in a more powerful Mk.VII configuration .
Also it's a bad idea to eject the spent casings vertically as it risks a casing or whole round dropping back down under the extractor and being caught under the extractor jamming the gun. The manual ejection of the swing out cylinder was considered an improvement as it was both easier to eject the cases downward and always control the extractor position. Really, reloading any revolver in combat is very hard, even with a speedloader.
gotta say Johnny, i'm really surprised you didn't use any footage from the anime series Trigun since (while a completely made up firearm) the main heroes revolver is a break action with pretty good scenes of reloading it
The only revolver I have is a single action with a load gate. It's fun but not practical for self defense. I always thought the top break revolvers looked cool but the practicality of semiautos always won me over. Thanks for another fun and interesting video Johnny.
In case anyone is wondering, a Schofield and a Webley are close enough in shape that a Schofield will fit perfectly in a Webley leather holster, like Indiana Jones'. Or at least my airgun replica will, should be the same size (and only the 5 inch barrel)
I always wondered why the hinge joints went bad, especially since I have a top break Thompson Center Encore in 458 winchester magnum and the hinge is fine. Seems like the issue was metallurgy wasn't at pace with the design yet.
I always had thing for precursor revolvers that are pepperbox pistol's with a barrel framed to it Johnny. The box is loaded seperate & their are some varying interesting mechanism various patterns had to remove the box for easy & speed of reloading. The USA like to think the wild west was filled with colt revolvers & such but most prospectors had a simple plain pepperbox as weeks wages to 4 months wages is a big deal. Most wanted some form of personal protection & not something to use in a shoot out. In a laments hand if 4 or 5 shots were not enough you were probably dead anyway! A pepperbox by it's design & premise has far less parts while being far less dangerous if all round go of at once as all the round just exit out the open front of the firearm. Many initially for these safety concerns did not adopt or desire an expensive untested early colt revolver outside of military or unsavoury often illegal professions. A new firearm with out training & time to familiarise one's self is often far dangerous to it's user then another. Hans Stopler revolver from 1597 is arguably the earliest revolver mind. All colt did was incorporate a ratchet system though some argue he copied it from an English pattern & fire arm in a private collection somewhere. Still colt did make a pretty penny & certainly was the 1st commercially successful revolver as prior pepperbox's were preferred being far more practical to produce & use.
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I liked how Mr. Lahey had that old Webley revolver as his sidearm while the boys had automatics. Showed how old school of a cop he used to be before the liquor got a hold of him.
The liquor was calling the shots.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq
The Liquor always calls the shots, bud.
He was fired in 77 so that it would been standard issue at the time
The Liquor only needs six shots.It's that fucken good bud.@@kyledunn6853
The liquor got to him? Brother.. he is the liquor. What shit wind did you hear that shit whisper from eh?
The giant guns used by the Labors in Patlabor go hard af. Something about a revolver the size of a smart car is just amazing.
They are admittedly expensive to maintain. Pity, considering the hotshot Isao Ohta is around.
@@michaelandreipalon359i think its ment to be a limmiter of sorts, after all, its not like the military will ever lose top secret prototypes, simultanious labor rampages, attack of giant cancer monster will ever happen in tokyo
@@memeboy8207 Well, there's the Schaft incidents, and also the occasional kaiju, ghost, mutant rodent, and sewer gator problem... but I digress at most.
You said it and also cool series too though more likely movies are my thing but also went with the TV series though now this is very expensive.
They're supposedly a mecha interpretation of how Japanese cops are only allowed revolvers. Now neither am I Japanese nor have I seen Patlabor, but I've always wondered about that logic; I understand the idea of balancing a real life police force with armaments that can't gib scores of people at the pull of a trigger, but the logic doesn't fly as high with giant robots and cannon-sized weapons.
I'd completely forgotten about the mecha-sized revolver reload from Patlabor at 3:55. That was a neat touch by the creators, that reeked of government bureaucrats mandating an absurdly impractical system out of misplaced concerns. Nice find!
One of the few mecha series I've never seen. That's awesome isn't it?
@@ThommyofThenn Both are good, but I thought Patlabor 2 was the better movie. I think there was a series done as well?
I love the extra fiddliness of the pilot having to get out of the Labor to reload by hand, so the ammo is stored in the ankle.
Actually finished watching the Patlabor animes a while back. There are two mainline continuities, not unlike Fullmetal Alchemist and Star Wars.
The first consists of The Early Days OVAs, consisting of seven stories, plus the first and second movies; there's also a third, WXIII, but it feels really out of place... and there's also a live action sequel miniseries to this continuity, but I doubt I'll ever see it.
The second consists of The TV Series and The New Files follow-up/interquel, consisting of 47 and 16 eps each.
Oh, and one's better off watching them all on the original Japanese. The English dubs for the OVAs and TV series are left wanting, while the better Manga Entertainment dubs for the first and second movies are really hard to get.
Oh, and by the way, 3:55 is from Patlabor: The Movie, during the climactic endgame battle on Babel.
As a kid, I remember my Uncle owning a Smith & Wesson Schofield
" break top " revolver.
He used to let me fire a couple of cylinders through it every now and then.
What a time I had!
Thanks Johnny for reminding me of a great childhood memory. 👍👍
When I was a kid, I had this revolver gun toy that you can insert some kind of gunpowder that will mimic a real-life gun noise when the trigger is pulled. The revolver was top break and for a good few years that I thought every revolvers were top break lol
I had something identical to what you described. The little "gunpowder" charges are called caps, and the (toy) guns designed to use them are consequently called cap guns.
Gene Autry Cap Gun, friend had one when I was a kid.
Cap guns got canceled due to mistaken reports of firearm discharges. The company knew the hazards their toy posed and pushed them even harder expecting to be shelved much eerier then they were. I remember the sound of it periodically echoing in my childhood valley
@@piney4562 yes! Cap gun. Since I live in Indonesia, we call it as "pistol" meaning handgun literally. They were loud as hell but was so fun to play cop & robbers. I wish I could get them now so I could play Swat with friends lmao
@@donaldpetersen2382 well I just had one occassion the cap discharged from the gun and smack my friend on the cheek, nothing serious & he had no injury except for a small red mark on his cheek. Those guns were much safer than the airsoft sold freely back when I was a kid. Loud as heck yes but safe as long as you don't somehow fire it to your eyes in just a few centimeters away
that trailer park boys intro is epic
Another awesome video, Johnny. I remember seeing Charlie Prince (played by Ben Foster) using a S&W Schofield in the 3:10 to Yuma remake. It forever solidified the badassery of the top-break revolver, in my mind.
Watched that film and don't remember anyone called that.
Only guy I remember is someone called "Charlie Princess"!
My absolute favorite type of revolver. I've got a 1917 Webley Mark VI, a 1943 Webley Mark IV, and a 1934 H&R Sportsman Model 999. Nothing is more satisfying than pushing the thumb release, pulling the barrel down, and watching the spent cartridges all go flying. These old top-breaks are absolute works of art!
That...was an outstanding episode. Absolutely perfect execution. Choice of archival material, flow and sequence of same, editing, dialogue, everything.
AAA job.
There is a Modern Top Break revolver developed by Russia in the 1990s, it’s called the MP-412 REX which is chambered in .357 Magnum and .38 Special.
to add to this, it was designed as an export revolver but since there was a weapons embargo on Russia, the gun never took off.
You ever play bf4
@@thunderkatz4219 No, I have played MW3 (2011) the original one. That’s where I saw the MP412 REX.
It's vaporware. It never made it out of the prototype phase and was never produced commercially.
its not vaporware, that would insinuate that it was not fully developed or was only in concept, they were produced in small numbers but because of the main market having embargoed russia, who was the US, it never got into full production.@@SavageGreywolf
the S&W model 3 is one of my favorite guns because of that sick top break mechanism, its awesome to see a video including it!
My grandfather brought one back from WW2, made at Tula in 1889 somehow it and a battle damaged 12mm pinfire came home with him after many battles in the Pacific including the flying column to free the POW camp by Manila. I can only guess maybe the Japanese captured it in the Russo Japanese War.
@@brasstard7.627 The Japanese actually adopted the model 3 in the 1880s, although theirs weren't made at Tula
Aww no "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" clip? In that film, Indy packs a Webley WG.
Bro even got a clip of fuckin Rango but no Indy Jones 😂😂
Always thought it was weird how Indiana Jones uses a webley in some of the movies
I remember in ‘Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade’, Indy takes out his gun and sees it has no bullets when it popped open…then his dad remembered his Charlemagne 😂
Those poor birds and Messerschmitts...
"Let my army'sh be the rocksh and the treesh, and the birdshh in the shhky"
@@endutubecensorship Well, heesh gone to the shhky now, RIP Shir Shean Connery.
Thanks for the Patlabor clip.
Break action revolvers were really cool. Still see them occasionally.
As a Canadian I love you opened with Mr Laney. That’s the best example on film of a top break revolver.
Hey I just let the liquor decide on the opening clip.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Lahey IS the liquor. 😂😂
I would love to see a modern break action revolver.
Of course it would be extremely difficult due to how strong the gases are with modern cartridges but still it’s just so cool lol
There was a small run of Webley revolvers in 357mag a few years ago but they were very expensive, I don't remember exactly but $5,000 rings a bell
NAA Ranger.
im pretty sure there is one called the mr412 rex
It's not actually a problem now with modern materials, just don't expect 500 s&w magnum out of them. The issue is cost and the fact that most gun companies aren't willing to take much risk in a niche product except maybe keltec.
One of the most badass top break revolver users, Vash the Stampede got me into this style of revolver.
You know it’s going be damn good video, when got Mr. Leahey and Randy. RIP John Dunsworth best actor to ever played a drunk. Next one target shooting and gun talk with Ricky.
Great video as always
Nice video but will you ever make a video on the M16 ? Its just so iconic it really deserves its own video
Megaprojects has a decent one. Here on UA-cam....
Thanks will check out but i would love to see one with the certain charm with this channel
Yes
@@rob5944that's great and I'm glad you have recommendations but I really like Johnny's style and taste in movie/tv examples
I want to see one in his videos
A fascinating insight in revolvers. You leean something new everyday!
Had a break open revolver in Trigun as well. Vash's signature revolver does this exact same thing.
The iconic Webley and Enfield revolver featured in so many epic imperial movies: Zulu, The Four Feathers, Titanic, Lawrence of Arabia ( who was in fact a 45 govt 1911 user), Too Late the Hero. Wherever a plucky British officer needed to uphold decency and fair play by killing lots of natives, the break top action was close at hand.
I'm always down for a Zulu Dawn reference.
2:59 woot! Indiana mention!
My favorite part is the auto ejection for top breaks. Just break it open and all the casings come flying out. The Webley is my favorite example of them.
Not all have ejectors. Some only have extractors.
Where's Indy's Webley WG Army Model .455?
"I suddenly remembered my Charlemagne... let my army be the rocks and the trees and the birds in the sky."
I honestly messed up big time because that would have been some solid footage for this...
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq ... yeah, but then you would've had to play "A Flock of Seagulls" song in the background.
every time you snap a cylinder shut on a revolver, Jerry Miculek sheds a single tear
The story I was always told was that the break top revolver was designed for cavalry so the could reload and still hold the reigns and barrel at the same time
Close. Cavalry were early adopters seeing the advantage. Just look up "schofield revolver" for some history on it.
The schofield was always my favorite to use in Red Dead Redemption because I never got tired of seeing the reload animation
I would have added "Magnum Force" of the Dirty Harry franchise, showing David Soul using the .357 Magnum, in Honour of his passing.
Dude brilliant as always. Love all your stuff man.
But the fact you go Trailer Park Boys into this one really take the cheeseburger.
Thanks dude
3:55 Nice use of Patlabor as an example for the video,an interesting yet deep franchise that mixes elements from Macross,Gundam and Police Academy
Funfact:the so called Revolver cannon used by the AV-98 Ingram and AV-0 Peacemaker are in fact a scaled up version of the Colt Python .357 Magnum with a 4" barrel,with he caliber for the gun being of 37mm
Now i see what kind of mech would Rick Grimes pilot!
The bee's wax and tallow mixture has more to do with reducing black powder fouling. A tight fitting bullet reduces the probability of a chain fire.
Yah, that's probably a more likely reason. Thank you.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq You should have mentioned paper cartridges, which were commercially available on a wide scale. Things like wads and lube are more of a 20th century cowboy shooting propagation.
It can do both. Greasing the chambers does help prevent chain fires.
Been watching for the longest time now and i just realized you never made a video on the arisaka or mosin
As a lefty, I like the top break revolver. Easy to reload compared to swing to the side revolvers.
Seems like you would like side gates.
I like top break revolvers. The main disadvantage they have is that they are not as strong as solid frame, side swing revolvers and not suitable for the more powerful cartridges that came along in the late 1800s.
Otherwise, they are much faster to load/unload. The S&W Schofield was preferred over the Colt SAA by cavalry because it could be unloaded quickly using just one hand, and was easier to load on horseback. I have a S&W Performance Center Schofield revolver I bought about 2002. Really fine revolver! It is the only single action revolver I own.
I also own a S&W "Safety Hammerless" .38 and an Enfield MKII also in .38 S&W.
0:27 - _Who would only load 5 out of 6 rounds into his weapon??_ That always made me nuts.
Someone that only has 5 rounds? Otherwise yeah that's weird. It doesn't even look like the empty cylinder is the one that would be under the hammer either; in case he was cautious in that way.
For the Colt Single Action Army, some would load only 5 rounds in the cylinder to prevent accidental discharge.
Load one skip one load four. That way when you decock the hammer, it comes down on an empty chamber. The old single actions didn't have any kind of safety.
No modern-day transfer bar safety. The hammer is the firing pin and if you load 6 the hammer is sitting above a live round
@@jcraigie Nope, he still had more ammo on him, as he later reloaded his revolver, once again. Excellent answers to all who said that it was vital to leave an empty chamber beneath the hammer of a single-action revolver. In that case, we may have a technical movie-making problem because at one point in the film he's repeatedly pulling the trigger on what is now a dry weapon before throwing it at a Zulu in frustration, and you can plainly see/hear that it's a double-action. That said, I _believe_ he was using a Webley service revolver which at the time was indeed double-action.
EDIT: A-HA! If you watch it closely enough, you can see that the chamber he leaves empty is _not_ the one beneath the hammer, and thus how he snaps it shut is of no consequence. So we're back to the beginning: He only loads 5 rounds into his double-action Webley with more ammo still in his pouch. I continue to be frustrated with this scene.
>Doesn't feature the Broken Butterfly teload from OG RE4
I have about a dozen assorted Top Breaks... They are Cool.... I sold one that I wish I would have kept years ago... It was a .455 Webley Scott.... "Wobbly Scott".... Haha!
RIP John Dunsworth
Always loved this type of revolver
Really wish they'd make a modern version
Maybe with a six o'clock barrel arrangement as well 😀
3:10 for anyone wanting more information about revolvers, speedloaders and their use by police; see Paul Harrells video about the 1986 FBI Miami shootout.
I was thinking of lahey and his revolver before I even clicked this video. Well played.
No one in the cap and ball days carried a spare loaded cylinder, that is a movie trope. Carrying a loaded and capped cylinder is like handling a bomb, dropping or mishandling it could be disastrous..
Not to mention cylinders were not necessarily interchangeable, timing could be way off
Revolver handling is fascinating.
3:50 - "Why do they call him Trigger? Does he carry a gun?
"No, it's 'cause he looks like a horse"
Damn straight, swing out win out on being able to handle rounds with more pressure but aesthetically ya can't beat the beauty and cool factor of a top break revolver.
Personal favourite is the Webley Fosbery, not only top break but a early example of the weird niche of recoil operated revolvers.
"8 Bells" Hopkins uses a Webley there .
RIP John Dunsworth. Still making us laugh. :(
I used to have a snubnose H&R top-break revolver. Kind of resembled a Webley...38 S&W rather than 38 Special. It was actually a solid little gun, but the ammo was kind of hard to come by.
I have a couple that are in 38 S&W. The ammo is hard to find and expensive.
I grew up in HK, my die cast cap gun was a top breaker. It was my coolest toy.
Thanks for another great video and a list of movies for me to watch:) You never disappoint!
No way you started this on a Trailer Park Boys clip... you're a legend man XD
The liquor chose which clip to start things with..
ive dreamed of owning a webley revolver ever since i watched zulu and also the pink floyed video loading a top break revolver would be my asmr lol
Just the tip, ehh Johnny? Thanks man, catch ya on the next one.
2:35 broke my hearth.
Nice work big fella as always, Safe travels buddy. :)
Such good videos. Informative, interesting, entertaining, to the point. Excellent infotainment Thank you very much
Adding in Mr lahey was a great addition
Ill take one in .455 webley, thanks Johnny! Lol
Okay but I can't promise ammo
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq haha yeah no shit
And even then, the cleaning materials are also sold separately in another county, haha!
The Speed Loaders Segment as well as the Dump Pouches remind me of Paul Harrel's Analysis of the 1986 Miami Dade Shooting.
Cool Video as always, Thank you Johnny!
One occasional thing that happens sometimes with revolvers with the automatic ejectors is that the ejector can slip past the rim of a cartridge and will then jam the case under the ejector when it snaps back. This isn’t a problem with manual ejectors for obvious reasons.
Very interesting video. Next time I watch a western or WWII movie / TV show, I'll pay closer attention now. Thanks.
Using and reloading them in BF1 was one of the coolest things ever, pd , love the jokes
I love top-break revolvers too! Also, real nice choice using that clip from Trailer Park Boys in the opening, R.I.P. John Dunsworth.
One thing i do hate about my top break is i can never find ammo for it. Its a S&W safety hammless and its a fun little gun
I like the top break revolvers, I still have a couple. A Hopkins and Alleen and a Iver Johnson's, both are in the old 38 s&w, and both are from the 1890s. Thanks for the video.
The Smith & Wesson Model 3 is such a good looking revolver😫
I always wanted a Schofield revolver. I've fired a few (original and reproductions) and they have a certain quickness to them similar to a P08 Luger. It's just a comfortable pistol to use.
My great-grandfather had a Webley Mark V and Mark VI he carried from when he was a young man till the day he died at 104.
That scene from The Quick and the Dead of the swede reloading his ball and cap revolver is the best pornographic production ever made.
Well, time to watch Zulu again.
2:14 while the Webley top-break would not be invented for some time.
Tranter 1879 top-break COULD have been privately purchased for officers just in time for the Anglo-Zulu war
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I have a Webley Mark IV. Amazing revolver.
"I see you have an eye for things! Gun's not just bout shootin, it's bout reloadin! You'll know what I'm talkin about!"-The Merchant RE4 about the Broken Butterfly revolver
Logically top break revolvers were seen as more pratical than, f.e., the Classic Colt 1873, with it you had to eject the spent rounds one by one, contrary to an Adams & likes.
One my favorite types of favorites
0:45: Strangely riveting, the gunshop sequence focusing on Tuco. That guy is as nicely surprising as Don Quixote and Sancho Panza altogether.
3:25: When in doubt, just watch this on the Director's Cut. Just saying.
3:55: Good old Patlabor: The Movie, Alphonse, and Noa Izumi... hehe, why must their revolver cannons be so impractically reloaded, up to the point of characters lampshading it in the course of the multi-continuity franchise?
Anywho, in my (mostly fiction based) perspective, revolvers in my eyes should be sided, while shotguns and certain rifle and demo weapons are on top.
0:02 this almost made me cry, how it isn't possible to flip the revolver to close it? ;-;
1:50 There's mention of both carrying multiple revolvers and swapping cylinders in either Grant's or Sherman's memoirs (I forget which). He said it was not uncommon for a cavalryman to carry two holstered revolvers in the front and two in the back in a cross draw style while mounted. Bloody Bill Anderson was found to have six revolvers on his person when he was killed. Also they preferred the "Navy" model Colts because it was significantly lighter than the 1860 Army. But anyway, if you have the cross wedge pin in the Colt worn in and greased, it's easy to knock it out and change a cylinder just as fast as you can on the 1858 Remington. Either way, reloading a cylinder is faster than emptying and reloading cartridges one by one. Also, it's worth noting that the Starr revolvers (there was a SA and a DA) were both top-break AND used percussion caps. Although it's not a latch, you have to unscrew a pin
I never thought I would see trailer Park boys here but I sure do love it
The liquor led the way.
Top break revolvers need ot make a comeback.
They are making reproductions of the Model 3 .Now they need to bring back Top Break rounds like the .455 Webley but in a more powerful Mk.VII configuration .
Also it's a bad idea to eject the spent casings vertically as it risks a casing or whole round dropping back down under the extractor and being caught under the extractor jamming the gun. The manual ejection of the swing out cylinder was considered an improvement as it was both easier to eject the cases downward and always control the extractor position.
Really, reloading any revolver in combat is very hard, even with a speedloader.
gotta say Johnny, i'm really surprised you didn't use any footage from the anime series Trigun since (while a completely made up firearm) the main heroes revolver is a break action with pretty good scenes of reloading it
Pretty sure the .45 Long Colt was modeled after several real revolvers, mainly the Russian MP412 REX
The only revolver I have is a single action with a load gate. It's fun but not practical for self defense. I always thought the top break revolvers looked cool but the practicality of semiautos always won me over.
Thanks for another fun and interesting video Johnny.
Colt single action?
In case anyone is wondering, a Schofield and a Webley are close enough in shape that a Schofield will fit perfectly in a Webley leather holster, like Indiana Jones'. Or at least my airgun replica will, should be the same size (and only the 5 inch barrel)
Good old Mr. Lahey and Randy.
That anime mech revolver looked dope
I always wondered why the hinge joints went bad, especially since I have a top break Thompson Center Encore in 458 winchester magnum and the hinge is fine. Seems like the issue was metallurgy wasn't at pace with the design yet.
Like the 'after the Anglo-Zulu war' bit. Very subtle.
Love how the clip is, MR. Lahey and Randy from trailer park boys
RIP John Dunsworth you marvelous bastard
Zulu and Trailer Park Boys. My childhood and adulthood together 😂
I always had thing for precursor revolvers that are pepperbox pistol's with a barrel framed to it Johnny.
The box is loaded seperate & their are some varying interesting mechanism various patterns had to remove the box for easy & speed of reloading.
The USA like to think the wild west was filled with colt revolvers & such but most prospectors had a simple plain pepperbox as weeks wages to 4 months wages is a big deal.
Most wanted some form of personal protection & not something to use in a shoot out.
In a laments hand if 4 or 5 shots were not enough you were probably dead anyway!
A pepperbox by it's design & premise has far less parts while being far less dangerous if all round go of at once as all the round just exit out the open front of the firearm.
Many initially for these safety concerns did not adopt or desire an expensive untested early colt revolver outside of military or unsavoury often illegal professions.
A new firearm with out training & time to familiarise one's self is often far dangerous to it's user then another.
Hans Stopler revolver from 1597 is arguably the earliest revolver mind.
All colt did was incorporate a ratchet system though some argue he copied it from an English pattern & fire arm in a private collection somewhere.
Still colt did make a pretty penny & certainly was the 1st commercially successful revolver as prior pepperbox's were preferred being far more practical to produce & use.
Patlabor!
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I've got an Iver Johnson top break in .32 S&W from the mid 1960's. My dad bought it new for $25.
Found a Schofield for $192 at Kuo Chao & Co. in Saint Denis. It was a steal!