The Celviano series is amazing. I owned the AP70, then upgraded through the two models and am now getting the Hybrid Grand. I was shocked that touch wise it holds its ground, even when played next to its big name competitors. In fact, I'd argue that none in the same price range can really match it.
I was searching for this quote after seeing it in the Adam Curtis documentary "It Felt Like a Kiss" and your reply was the top (and possibly only) relevant google result lol...it was made in regard to the World Trade Center towers, which had at the time of the quote not yet been built, and which Mailer thought would disrupt the New York skyline as "two enormous fangs"
have owned it for year. Very good instrument but if you play a lot with headphones be sure to test multiple ones to find which has best tone for piano. Not good music headphones make good piano headphones
I have ap-470 and my friends sister has got Yamaha YDP -164 If anyone doesn't know which one to choose, the Yamaha has better keyboard, the keys feel better Casio has better sound though, but you could get used to the one in 164
@@MrDGladiator its not bad, it is good but yamahas is better dont take looks into the consideration, it really does not matter trust me, it wears off The better thing about the casio is the sound,as the lid opens and the sound is alot richer and better that way I would recommend getting the yamaha, though if you want to get the casio you will still be satisfied
I played the two pianos in the store. The sound sample of 470 is much more emotional. The string resonance is better also. And the design is really elegant, especially the white version. It comes with an adjustable bench out-of-the-box. If you own an AP-460, it's not necessary to upgrade to 470. But if you move from Privia or the aged Celviano pianos, this is the best choice in its range. The most significant opponent is Roland RP-302. You can compare them by yourself!
When you press the keys soft to hard do they all just sound like the same sound soft to hard or is there dynamic differences with each press of the key?
Doesn't really sound much different than the Clavinova that costs $1000 more. But what's with the apps stuff? Isn't that stuff on the box off to the left?
They are pretty much the same but yamaha is a little better and expensive too. So if you have enough money for yamaha and if you dont mind the price then i suggest you to buy yamaha
Please if you care of sound - never buy Casio! They have great feeling, look, keys, but sound sooo bad (electro muffled sound) I make a big mistake with AP470 and have to send it back. Go buy anything from Yamaha and you will not be disappointed.
Hard to find much comparative information. AP-470 is a newer release, and belongs to the higher end Celviano line, replacing the AP460 - doesn't seem that might higher end considering the price difference between PX and AP. Looks like the piano sounds and other features are pretty much the same, hammer action is the same, but the AP-470 is a more traditional cabinet with actual lid for sound dynamics (PX870 only has digital lid effects). PX870 takes up less space and less weight. Where I am located, the AP470 is only $25 more than the PX870, so I'm thinking there are bare minimum differences between the two apart from cosmetic. Since the AP470 is more traditional and elegant (IMO), and released in 2018 (vs 2017 for the PX870), I figured for almost the same price I'd opt for it over the PX870. Getting mine next week.
Thank you for the video.Unfortunately I can 't decide which one to buy: Casio ap 470 or Yamaha ydp 144. If there is anyone who had an experience with this two Pianos, I'm open for suggestions..
I once was told that the Yamaha ydp 144 had only two sensors in each note, while the casio had 3. That was a deal breaker for me. 3 sensors make rapidly repeated notes more natural
I have the same problem, a pianist saud me Yamaha has a Better sound and Aldo said that keyboard are different because Yamaha 164 has a gh3 keyboard while ap 470 has gh2 keyboard but for me celviano ap 470 Is very beautiful
Can anyone help deciding between AP470 and the Yamaha CLP625? I know they're in a different price range but I'm blown away by both, however the Casio has a slightly worse reputation than the famous Yamaha. The CLP sounds a bit more realistic as well.
László Marosi take Yamaha. I have casio and its very good. Just played clp645 today at music store. There is not huge difference at start but when playing 1year you start to notice the difference. And if price is not an issue go direct to Yamaha
peeps an honest question. I would like to know a top 2 from the following piano's. Iwant t obuy but want to get the best for my buck: Roland FP30, Roland 140r, kawai kdp 110, kawai es 110, casio px870, casio ap470, yamaha ydp 163 and the korg c1 air. Thanks in advance, you guys would be a live saver!
@@Imgonzaloyes thank you for your reply! However, things happened and my budget got low to sub 600 euro's (Roland FP30 Tier). Atm I am still contemplating wether to pick up guitar of piano. Hahaha I was sure but got confused again.
We gotta find the answer soon. As much as the research I've done, kawai has a better touch and control on the instrument is better, maybe the best for the range. ap 470 has a lot better speaker system. Its app is good. While its touch is much worse than kdp110, they say keyboard wears off quickly and makes some noise. Its really difficult to answer. Ap470 is nearly midrange for entry level price. And kdp has a legendary acustic like feel.
I feel like the kdp is a much better overall compromise in terms of feel and sound. Just feels more comfortable to play on, though not at comfy as the cn39
@@muhammedkaragoz8518 Ben kawai aldım. Tuşesi, ses zenginliği gibi ozellikleri çok guzel. Ses biraz koyu bir tonda ama virtual technician app le ya da üzerindeki kontrollerle sesi manipüle etme seçeneği çok. Ama casio nasıl bilemiyorum.
I am reposting this as i myself nearly pulled the trigger on one of these from Sweetwater..but the other day i tested one in person and i am SO glad i didn't. The key action was light and felt cheap, the default piano sounds uninspiring, and no bluetooth..just a combination of factors just made the experience of playing it a bit of a drag. But this is a piano that really should be avoided if your someone who has previously played on a range of quality pianos but still wants an immersive digital piano experience. If money is limited for only $200-300 more you could get the Korg G1 Air which has a more premium watt speaker system , an arguably better key action, and bluetooth. Plus it looks sleek as hell.
This is a problem, that's why AP470 was worst choice in my life. I tried 2 days - all options, we can do nothing - great feeling and look but sound is so horrible. I sad to say it but definitely Yamaha or others will be best option than any Casio product (if we talk about sound, because as I said before, feeling and look are great).
These Casio ap470 pianos are no good. Mine stopped working 9 months after I purchased it. I bought it from Sweetwater. They told me that I would have to pay to ship it back to them. I can not afford to ship it back so I am stuck with a piece of junk. Don't buy one.
The Celviano series is amazing. I owned the AP70, then upgraded through the two models and am now getting the Hybrid Grand. I was shocked that touch wise it holds its ground, even when played next to its big name competitors. In fact, I'd argue that none in the same price range can really match it.
According a price this machine sure is winner!
I love the piano 2 mellow sound it sounds so calm
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This moment brings to mind a quote by Norman Mailer: "Anything that shatters mood, generally speaking, is working for the devil".
I was searching for this quote after seeing it in the Adam Curtis documentary "It Felt Like a Kiss" and your reply was the top (and possibly only) relevant google result lol...it was made in regard to the World Trade Center towers, which had at the time of the quote not yet been built, and which Mailer thought would disrupt the New York skyline as "two enormous fangs"
just bought one of these! cant wait for the delivery on thursday!
plot twist it comes broken
@@bruhbruh7929 arrived in perfect condition. 😀
have owned it for year. Very good instrument but if you play a lot with headphones be sure to test multiple ones to find which has best tone for piano. Not good music headphones make good piano headphones
@@keepinitwheel5920 how has your experience been with this piano? Very interested in buying one soon, would like to know your feedback!
@@photogaff great start. Learned lots would recommend a bunch! !
WHAT IS THE SONG YOU PLAYED IN THE INTRO I NEED TO KNOW
Thanks - this was super helpful!
Can anyone please tell me whether to buy this or the Yamaha arius ydp 164
did you get an answer? What decision did you make?
what did u buy ?
I have ap-470 and my friends sister has got Yamaha YDP -164
If anyone doesn't know which one to choose, the Yamaha has better keyboard, the keys feel better
Casio has better sound though, but you could get used to the one in 164
Hey mate, i was looking into does 2, is the key action on the ap-470 that bad? I kind of like the looks of the Casio a bit better.
@@MrDGladiator its not bad, it is good but yamahas is better
dont take looks into the consideration, it really does not matter trust me, it wears off
The better thing about the casio is the sound,as the lid opens and the sound is alot richer and better that way
I would recommend getting the yamaha, though if you want to get the casio you will still be satisfied
Hey does the texture of the piano overdone?
Can we connect wjth iphone on ap 470?to use apps
Torn between this and Korg G1b Air 😢
Whats the melodi he plays first?😊
Its to much the difference with the AP-460?
I want to know the same.
I played the two pianos in the store. The sound sample of 470 is much more emotional. The string resonance is better also. And the design is really elegant, especially the white version. It comes with an adjustable bench out-of-the-box. If you own an AP-460, it's not necessary to upgrade to 470. But if you move from Privia or the aged Celviano pianos, this is the best choice in its range. The most significant opponent is Roland RP-302. You can compare them by yourself!
Casio ap 450 v px 870, in terms of price and other specs?
Very light piano voice...
Any option available to make the sound deeper and heavier?
wow
Fabulous
Is the keyoard action is really different from the GP-500 ?
What apps do we need to download to play those function?
Chordana play. For iOS and Android
Rudi, I enjoyed you! ;-)
When you press the keys soft to hard do they all just sound like the same sound soft to hard or is there dynamic differences with each press of the key?
Because of the price, I would say it has dynamic key pressing. But don’t quote me on that, not 100%.
Yes, this piano have sensitives keys!
Doesn't really sound much different than the Clavinova that costs $1000 more. But what's with the apps stuff? Isn't that stuff on the box off to the left?
@Sammy The Shark Exactly. That's my question.
Can you play with headphones???
Yes.
Sure
Thanks! Do you connect it to the iPad via usb C, right?
usb a to usb c
Casio Ap 470 or Korg c1 Air? Which one is better as sound quality and touch?
I'm debating on casio ap-470, yamaha ydp164, and kawai kdp110, i wonder what's the major difference and which one is better to get
Carrie Yang me too. Plan to get one of those.
@@lucianoregoty i decided to get kawai kdp110 but have been waiting for it to be in stock in the us lol
@@carrieyang36 how did this work out im looking at similar products for a suprise
@@twiztidloki I've been waiting for the piano to be back in stock and it just updated this morning so I just ordered
@@carrieyang36 oh where did you get it from tha k you hope it works out
Hi man, thank you so much for the review, could you tell me what app are u using in the video? cheers
OmaRoma its Chordana play for Piano
i am very late but is the casio ap470 better thant the yamaha s54
I cant decide between YDP163 and AP470, any suggestions?
They are pretty much the same but yamaha is a little better and expensive too. So if you have enough money for yamaha and if you dont mind the price then i suggest you to buy yamaha
Go to the music store and play cpuple of days each. Then decide
Barney's Suit my main thing is the touch I’m looking for a digital under 2k
Please if you care of sound - never buy Casio! They have great feeling, look, keys, but sound sooo bad (electro muffled sound) I make a big mistake with AP470 and have to send it back. Go buy anything from Yamaha and you will not be disappointed.
Greg What do you think about kawai pianos?(kdp series)
Is the sound with strings better in ydp-164? I likento play strings accompanying the piano
if you compare it with 780?? what are the differences?
is it possible to use midi? (connect it to a pc and play as midi controller?)
Yes. It can be connected to a PC, Mac and iPad, iPhone, with a USB cable and Camera Connection Kit adapter.
kawai kdp 110 or casio ap 470,. ve kawainin klavye sorunu hakkinda gorusunuz
Does this piano have reverb?
Yes
How this one is different from px 870 when it comes to sound quality?
Hard to find much comparative information. AP-470 is a newer release, and belongs to the higher end Celviano line, replacing the AP460 - doesn't seem that might higher end considering the price difference between PX and AP. Looks like the piano sounds and other features are pretty much the same, hammer action is the same, but the AP-470 is a more traditional cabinet with actual lid for sound dynamics (PX870 only has digital lid effects). PX870 takes up less space and less weight. Where I am located, the AP470 is only $25 more than the PX870, so I'm thinking there are bare minimum differences between the two apart from cosmetic. Since the AP470 is more traditional and elegant (IMO), and released in 2018 (vs 2017 for the PX870), I figured for almost the same price I'd opt for it over the PX870. Getting mine next week.
Are you reviewing the app or the piano itself?
😂
So you need an “additional I-pad” to make this thing work ? Why ?
U can do the same exact thing just with the piano on its own
Thank you for the video.Unfortunately I can 't decide which one to buy: Casio ap 470 or Yamaha ydp 144. If there is anyone who had an experience with this two Pianos, I'm open for suggestions..
same here 🤦🏻♀️
I once was told that the Yamaha ydp 144 had only two sensors in each note, while the casio had 3. That was a deal breaker for me. 3 sensors make rapidly repeated notes more natural
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@arnaldocisneros2212
It s same I tried both.
Just marketing.
But yamaha sound better for me
I purchased a Casio AP470 less than a year ago from Sweetwater and it will not turn on. I am hitting a roadblock with Sweetwater's warranty.
Yamaha 164 vs casio Ap 470 ? Help
I have the same problem, a pianist saud me Yamaha has a Better sound and Aldo said that keyboard are different because Yamaha 164 has a gh3 keyboard while ap 470 has gh2 keyboard but for me celviano ap 470 Is very beautiful
is it better then the yamaha clp 625?
Noway in hell
No hh
The channel, which never answers
Thanks for noticing...
Better Music OMG I’m laughing so hard
Was gonna get Roland Rp501 for my daughter then found out about this, anyone can give some advice on what should I get?
Casio AP-460.
Can anyone help deciding between AP470 and the Yamaha CLP625? I know they're in a different price range but I'm blown away by both, however the Casio has a slightly worse reputation than the famous Yamaha. The CLP sounds a bit more realistic as well.
László Marosi take Yamaha. I have casio and its very good. Just played clp645 today at music store. There is not huge difference at start but when playing 1year you start to notice the difference. And if price is not an issue go direct to Yamaha
Iiro Hiltunen the 625 and 645 are a very huge difference ur insinuating that the 625 and 645 are the same I’d rather have the ap 470 than the 625
Honestly, CASIO AP 710 or CASIO HYBRID GP 310 ridicules any Yamaha
peeps an honest question. I would like to know a top 2 from the following piano's. Iwant t obuy but want to get the best for my buck: Roland FP30, Roland 140r, kawai kdp 110, kawai es 110, casio px870, casio ap470, yamaha ydp 163 and the korg c1 air.
Thanks in advance, you guys would be a live saver!
I have the celviano 470 it is very good but a little sharp in the higth notes
@@Imgonzaloyes thank you for your reply! However, things happened and my budget got low to sub 600 euro's (Roland FP30 Tier). Atm I am still contemplating wether to pick up guitar of piano. Hahaha I was sure but got confused again.
@@iTechRevolutionTV what's your choice ?
Consider the new Casio PX-S1000
which one u bought? I cant decide between YDP163 and AP470
Nigel from EastEnders
Hi, I have the oppurtunity to choose between the ap 470 and ydp 144. Any suggestions?
Jorge Carrasco sane dilemma. Or the 870. What did you go for in the end if you don’t mind me asking?
What does Kawai KDP 110 or Casio AP 470 recommend for me?
VERY GOOD QUESTION !! i have NOW THE Same trouble
We gotta find the answer soon. As much as the research I've done, kawai has a better touch and control on the instrument is better, maybe the best for the range. ap 470 has a lot better speaker system. Its app is good. While its touch is much worse than kdp110, they say keyboard wears off quickly and makes some noise. Its really difficult to answer. Ap470 is nearly midrange for entry level price. And kdp has a legendary acustic like feel.
I feel like the kdp is a much better overall compromise in terms of feel and sound. Just feels more comfortable to play on, though not at comfy as the cn39
@@karayildiz396 sence şimdi hamgisi daha iyi
@@muhammedkaragoz8518 Ben kawai aldım. Tuşesi, ses zenginliği gibi ozellikleri çok guzel. Ses biraz koyu bir tonda ama virtual technician app le ya da üzerindeki kontrollerle sesi manipüle etme seçeneği çok. Ama casio nasıl bilemiyorum.
I am reposting this as i myself nearly pulled the trigger on one of these from Sweetwater..but the other day i tested one in person and i am SO glad i didn't.
The key action was light and felt cheap, the default piano sounds uninspiring, and no bluetooth..just a combination of factors just made the experience of playing it a bit of a drag. But this is a piano that really should be avoided if your someone who has previously played on a range of quality pianos but still wants an immersive digital piano experience.
If money is limited for only $200-300 more you could get the Korg G1 Air which has a more premium watt speaker system , an arguably better key action, and bluetooth. Plus it looks sleek as hell.
Its overall tone sounds muddy to me...
Ear wax will do that. Get some Devox.
right through the computer speakers even!
I have played this for a year and sometimes I will get that same blurry sound as well.
This is a problem, that's why AP470 was worst choice in my life. I tried 2 days - all options, we can do nothing - great feeling and look but sound is so horrible. I sad to say it but definitely Yamaha or others will be best option than any Casio product (if we talk about sound, because as I said before, feeling and look are great).
These Casio ap470 pianos are no good. Mine stopped working 9 months after I purchased it. I bought it from Sweetwater. They told me that I would have to pay to ship it back to them. I can not afford to ship it back so I am stuck with a piece of junk. Don't buy one.
For me now 4 years.
Perfect piano
Great review :) How does this compare to the Roland FP-30?
There is no comparison
Ap 470 superior
Roland fp 30 must be compared with yamaha p125 or casio px160
is it better then the yamaha clp 625?
I have same question
@@uguratil YES
No for sure