Another quality video! Excellent narration! Auction video are always interesting. Last night we enjoyed a big pot of peas we purchased from you at your market. Take care and be safe...
@@myronparks3495 John Deere 4960s have been bringing more than original price for around a decade. They average over 15,000 hours, are 30+ years old, and are worth more than their original new price.
We run several 5711 massey, exact set up as the 6713. great tractors and I agree not stacked full of tech and sensors that go haywire all the time. They have been great to us!
I love your channel! I'm from Tift/ Berrien county. I run numerous different makes of tractors over the years. The best, strongest and most user friendly tractor I've ever used was the 8070 series made by ford/ new Holland. It had a joystick, push button lift, and the super steer system. It was built in the 90s. Can you explain more about that stile of tractors?
@@Rudysray I have no experience with that particular series. The older Fords were known to be strong pullers for their size. The Versatile, which has some Ford lineage, is the best pulling (for its size) tractor I have ever operated.
That was a beautiful 3020. I remember when the 20 series was brand new. We had a 4020. My favorite old tractor was an IH 1206. I feel like one of those vintage tractors, but have'nt been restored.
That 3020 took me back to my much younger days. I spent many hours running a mower conditioner and hauling loads of silage with one. I really enjoy you taking us along with you to the auctions. Did Kaw Liga go home with you?
It’s easy to tell when a tractor was operated by the farmer who owned it, or a member of the immediate family, rather than by some hired jackass who doesn't give a damn what that machine cost, or what it takes to fix it. I have a hard time accepting how raggedy the inside of some of those cabs are. My first tractor with a cab was an 81 model 4440, and I was so proud of it, I wouldn't let anyone else close to it.
Please start some of the equipment and take the oil fill cap off. That says more than new paint. Edit; Your videos are awesome and I really appreciate everyone.
Great video Patrick. Noticed you have live chat available now. We need a day notice for chat time videos lol, would be fun to participate. Lot of parts tractors there. I agree "simple" is best in just about everything we do and use. Good solid old tractors that just need a re-power is money well spent in most cases. Thanks again.
Just found out our local John Deere dealership was cut loose by the company because they were a single location shop and not meeting JD's profit expectations. JD's profit model is bigger multi-location dealerships with millions in sales and service, but for rural mountain farmers where I live that bought JDs, they will now have travel 70 miles round trip for sales and service on their JDs...JD made 10.6 billion in profit last year, and CEO John May was compensated 26 million...but they don't seem interested in maintaining the fundamentals of sound customer service that made them an American icon in the first place. JD is still dragging their feet on "the right to repair" issue, even though they lost a major court battle over the issue. They seem hall bent on fighting for their repair monopolization. It seems to me that continually alienating your traditional customer base, and acting openly hostile to independent family farmers that have been devoted to JD is not a viable long-term strategy. Farmers are getting the message. But what do I know? Its just my impression. If JD no longer cares about the small farmer, why would a small farmer stay with them? I wouldn't be surprised if a lot more JD tractors are going to be unloaded onto the secondary market, and when time comes to buy a new tractor, it won't be a Deere. New Masseys, New Hollands and Kubotas are becoming more visible here in western NC, and the old Deere's will be worked until they fall apart around the driver. If I'm going to have to drive, its just as easy to go across the state line into TN and get a Massey or New Holland...sorry for the rant, I'm kinda annoyed at the moment.
@@jamesh.5709 down south “options” are finally entering the market place. As you stated, JD is basically in every town, but to get to another brand’s dealer you typically have to travel an hour one way. That means 2.5 hours to get a part instead of 30 minutes. Previously there wasn’t any other dealers for multiple hours in any direction, but they are finally infiltrating the south. I am seeing more Case, Versatile, and Massey. Fendt is making a big splash. Competition is finally coming. Deere hasn’t had to compete down south for 30+ years. The time of reckoning is near.
Question for midwest and southern farmers, is there any government subsidy on farm equipment or tractors? I know CA and TX have had some, just curious.
Consignment Auctions are often people unloading junk. Estate or Dispersal Auctions usually have better equipment, and the equipment is usually better maintained. Bankruptcy sales can be a crapshoot, lack of $ often means lack of maintenance.
@@MorganOtt-ne1qj in this part of the country all equipment is sent to the consignment auction. 4 farms were liquidated at this auction. The theory is the more equipment you have in one place at one time then the more buyers will show up. A buyer may not ride an hour to go look at 3 tractors and a few implements at an on farm dispersal, but they will ride from 3 hours away to see 40-60 tractors and a few hundred implements from a combined multiple farm dispersals, bankruptcies, and just unloading extra stuff. More buyers = higher prices. I know they don’t do it this way everywhere in the country and that perplexes me.
@PatrickShivers We have a few Auction Companies that could draw a crowd for selling a dog kennel and a few lawnmowers. They avoid having many consignments in their sales, and announce if a piece is consigned. Some bankruptcy sales can be disguised as dispersal sales, but word gets around pretty fast. The auction companies rely on reputation, and if they have 2 or 3 sales with less than quality equipment, they suffer. I really appreciate you taking us along to the sale, especially having the final price in the video! Thanks, my friend! 👍
Farmer I help part time had a 2002 model 7810 caught fire underneath the cab and burned to the ground. Operator was planting cover crop with it. Didn't know it was on fire till flames were coming up around the bottom of cab. He bailed out and left it to burn.
Those sound like good prices to me. Shoot, a new quad cab 1/2 ton pickup averages $75 k up in the northeast. And you don’t even get a three point hitch or a pto.
You'd be surprised what that little bit of that dynamat under that top will do to take the echo out from under those sunshades, especially if your stack is a little short. I'd rather spend a little too much on an older tractor like that 3020 than depreciating a new utility tractor. Unless you want to do a lot of loader work with a tractor (and I hate loaders on a tractor) I think most farmers are much better off with a nice older tractor to mow field ends or other little utility job work. Those 7R's are snakebit. Neighbors my age had 3 at one time, two of them got traded for older 8000 Deere's, the 7200R burnt up and they bought a 4755 to replace it. Their daddy has two 7210R's, both of them snapped the rear diffs when they were a year old, and neither of them did anything harder than pull a peanut plow. 8Rs are much better tractors all the way around, and that may or may not be saying much. Same neighbors back in the 90's had either a 4755 or 4760 new as a 2WD. It wasn't much for tillage, but tote a planter or picking peanuts, it was nice. Always thought it was a sharp looking tractor, sure wouldn't have any qualms about having the 2WD version if I could find a nice one.
@@stevenpringle7813 I’m not sure any of them looked that good when they left the factory. Every square inch of that thing was mint +10. Highest price I’ve ever seen on that generation Deere.
@@scottn7464 I was hosting my annual rifle competition and forgot to place my online bid. I may just make one myself. Been debating doing it for a while.
Seemed the sale prices were fairly healthy at this auction. NOTHING like the giveaways I've seen at Ritchie Bros when the broader economy is weak. I know the farm economy is a different animal, but ...
@@jamesba4206she was in the room when the part 1 video played and I got in that orange GMC and was talking about how much I wanted to buy it. Without stopping what she was doing she said “if you bring another truck home we’re getting divorced” (she was joking of course)
Why do you just go for the John deer junk and not other brands of tractors because you can't work on the green junk like you can the other brands because I run ac tractors only because I can work on them not like the green junk
@@johnberg4618 I show whatever is at the auction. I don’t control what is there for sale. Over 90% of all the farm tractors down south are John Deere. In this video I got on a Massey Ferguson, Ford, and a Case IH. In every farm auction video I do I go out of my way to feature non Deere tractors. At a typical auction in this region if there are 50 tractors around 42 of them will be Deere. I encourage people to do just as you have and buy whatever they know how to work on. We are pretty knowledgeable on fixing Deere. I have multiple videos on this channel of us doing full engine swaps on 8225R and 8335R Deere.
@PatrickShivers that's why the farmers are moving away from the green junk because they can't work on them and why John deer is moving to Mexico or going out of business
@ there is a lot of misinformation about right to repair. I have a video called “killing the American Farmer” that dives into it along with other issues. Deere doesn’t stop anyone from working on their tractor. They will gladly sell you any part you want to buy and will not try to stop you from repairing your tractor. They got sued, and loss, over denying access to diagnostic software. They now sell the diagnostic software (because of losing the 2023 lawsuit) to anyone that wants to buy it. Farmers are leaving Deere for other brands because we are finally being given some options. Deere dang near monopolized the tractor market in the 1990s. 15 years ago there wasn’t a non-Deere tractor dealership within 3 hours in any direction of my farm….and I live in the heart of Ag country. Today there is a Case dealer about 45 minutes southeast in one direction, the next one is multiple hours away. I can get to a Fendt or MF dealer in about an hour west, and the is a Versatile dealer about an hour and 15 straight east of here. There is a Deere dealer in every town.
Patrick, loved the auction videos! Great job, thank you Sir!
Another quality video! Excellent narration! Auction video are always interesting. Last night we enjoyed a big pot of peas we purchased from you at your market. Take care and be safe...
Thanks Gatorguy!
I have to agree, simple and reliable wins the day. So many of the old tractors still in use today and my neighbor still farms with them today.
@@pc5569 manufacturers will not offer what we overwhelmingly want. That MF was built for European market.
I was watching Machinery Pete a year ago. Pre DEF combines was bringing a premium. They were selling $ 10-20,000 more than they were brand new
@@myronparks3495 John Deere 4960s have been bringing more than original price for around a decade. They average over 15,000 hours, are 30+ years old, and are worth more than their original new price.
@PatrickShivers I think the 4960 is a good tractor. The motors seem to run a lot of hours. I liked the Massey Ferguson in this video.
@ I definitely want a Massey like that as soon as farming is profitable again
We run several 5711 massey, exact set up as the 6713. great tractors and I agree not stacked full of tech and sensors that go haywire all the time. They have been great to us!
@@tylerfrost2436 thanks for the info
I love your channel! I'm from Tift/ Berrien county. I run numerous different makes of tractors over the years. The best, strongest and most user friendly tractor I've ever used was the 8070 series made by ford/ new Holland. It had a joystick, push button lift, and the super steer system. It was built in the 90s. Can you explain more about that stile of tractors?
@@Rudysray I have no experience with that particular series. The older Fords were known to be strong pullers for their size. The Versatile, which has some Ford lineage, is the best pulling (for its size) tractor I have ever operated.
My grandpa has a 1066. He loves it. Used it for balling and plowing.
@@unseenadventures8130 they were the cream of the crop in their day.
That was a beautiful 3020. I remember when the 20 series was brand new.
We had a 4020. My favorite old tractor was an IH 1206. I feel like one of those vintage tractors, but have'nt been restored.
@@rickcham7781 😂you’re still pulling though.
Love the way the 2WD 4960 looks.
I wish you had cranked that 4960.
That 466 start up was music to my ears
That 3020 took me back to my much younger days. I spent many hours running a mower conditioner and hauling loads of silage with one. I really enjoy you taking us along with you to the auctions. Did Kaw Liga go home with you?
@@4supertigers unfortunately no. It sold on Saturday while I was hosting my annual rifle competition. I forgot to put in my online bid.
It’s easy to tell when a tractor was operated by the farmer who owned it, or a member of the immediate family, rather than by some hired jackass who doesn't give a damn what that machine cost, or what it takes to fix it.
I have a hard time accepting how raggedy the inside of some of those cabs are.
My first tractor with a cab was an 81 model 4440, and I was so proud of it, I wouldn't let anyone else close to it.
@@MarshallLanier you are exactly right. I use to tell my father’s employees “if you had a $250,000 car would you leave all this trash in it?”
Please start some of the equipment and take the oil fill cap off. That says more than new paint.
Edit; Your videos are awesome and I really appreciate everyone.
Great video Patrick. Noticed you have live chat available now. We need a day notice for chat time videos lol, would be fun to participate. Lot of parts tractors there. I agree "simple" is best in just about everything we do and use. Good solid old tractors that just need a re-power is money well spent in most cases. Thanks again.
@@tunisbalboa8137 I was unaware I had live available 😂
Used to run a 4960. I agree, the best tractor ever made. Thanks Patrick for the awesome videos!
@@ryannichols8470 thanks for watching Ryan!
Just found out our local John Deere dealership was cut loose by the company because they were a single location shop and not meeting JD's profit expectations. JD's profit model is bigger multi-location dealerships with millions in sales and service, but for rural mountain farmers where I live that bought JDs, they will now have travel 70 miles round trip for sales and service on their JDs...JD made 10.6 billion in profit last year, and CEO John May was compensated 26 million...but they don't seem interested in maintaining the fundamentals of sound customer service that made them an American icon in the first place. JD is still dragging their feet on "the right to repair" issue, even though they lost a major court battle over the issue. They seem hall bent on fighting for their repair monopolization. It seems to me that continually alienating your traditional customer base, and acting openly hostile to independent family farmers that have been devoted to JD is not a viable long-term strategy. Farmers are getting the message. But what do I know? Its just my impression. If JD no longer cares about the small farmer, why would a small farmer stay with them?
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot more JD tractors are going to be unloaded onto the secondary market, and when time comes to buy a new tractor, it won't be a Deere. New Masseys, New Hollands and Kubotas are becoming more visible here in western NC, and the old Deere's will be worked until they fall apart around the driver. If I'm going to have to drive, its just as easy to go across the state line into TN and get a Massey or New Holland...sorry for the rant, I'm kinda annoyed at the moment.
@@jamesh.5709 down south “options” are finally entering the market place. As you stated, JD is basically in every town, but to get to another brand’s dealer you typically have to travel an hour one way. That means 2.5 hours to get a part instead of 30 minutes. Previously there wasn’t any other dealers for multiple hours in any direction, but they are finally infiltrating the south. I am seeing more Case, Versatile, and Massey. Fendt is making a big splash. Competition is finally coming. Deere hasn’t had to compete down south for 30+ years. The time of reckoning is near.
That IH 1066 was rough, but the rear fenders alone were probably worth half what it sold for.
@@Oilyspanners7223 yep. It was a deal, if you’re parting it out.
Great video . John deere over in the uk get swapped as soon as the warranty runs out .
2wd 4960 has a much tighter turning radius as compared to the front wheel assist model. Better for pulling a planter or grain drill.
@@timr8501 great insight
Patrick, did you buy the Indian for the store front???
Hello, Patrick! Never relying only on appearance is a key rule...
@@luisnunes7933 you are correct Luis!
@@PatrickShivers 👌
Question for midwest and southern farmers, is there any government subsidy on farm equipment or tractors? I know CA and TX have had some, just curious.
No
Consignment Auctions are often people unloading junk. Estate or Dispersal Auctions usually have better equipment, and the equipment is usually better maintained. Bankruptcy sales can be a crapshoot, lack of $ often means lack of maintenance.
@@MorganOtt-ne1qj in this part of the country all equipment is sent to the consignment auction. 4 farms were liquidated at this auction. The theory is the more equipment you have in one place at one time then the more buyers will show up. A buyer may not ride an hour to go look at 3 tractors and a few implements at an on farm dispersal, but they will ride from 3 hours away to see 40-60 tractors and a few hundred implements from a combined multiple farm dispersals, bankruptcies, and just unloading extra stuff. More buyers = higher prices. I know they don’t do it this way everywhere in the country and that perplexes me.
@PatrickShivers We have a few Auction Companies that could draw a crowd for selling a dog kennel and a few lawnmowers. They avoid having many consignments in their sales, and announce if a piece is consigned. Some bankruptcy sales can be disguised as dispersal sales, but word gets around pretty fast. The auction companies rely on reputation, and if they have 2 or 3 sales with less than quality equipment, they suffer. I really appreciate you taking us along to the sale, especially having the final price in the video! Thanks, my friend! 👍
In part 1 you mentioned deers are now only getting 7~8000 hrs on engines that's pretty bad
@@tonyvandyke4920 I agree, that is terrible.
Farmer I help part time had a 2002 model 7810 caught fire underneath the cab and burned to the ground. Operator was planting cover crop with it. Didn't know it was on fire till flames were coming up around the bottom of cab. He bailed out and left it to burn.
@@johnnyholland8765 once they catch, they are virtually impossible to put out.
Looks like the 6115 originally came out of Texas.
Those sound like good prices to me. Shoot, a new quad cab 1/2 ton pickup averages $75 k up in the northeast. And you don’t even get a three point hitch or a pto.
@@brianmilliard6998 😂
You are the 2nd source I've heard this from in the last week.
You'd be surprised what that little bit of that dynamat under that top will do to take the echo out from under those sunshades, especially if your stack is a little short. I'd rather spend a little too much on an older tractor like that 3020 than depreciating a new utility tractor. Unless you want to do a lot of loader work with a tractor (and I hate loaders on a tractor) I think most farmers are much better off with a nice older tractor to mow field ends or other little utility job work.
Those 7R's are snakebit. Neighbors my age had 3 at one time, two of them got traded for older 8000 Deere's, the 7200R burnt up and they bought a 4755 to replace it. Their daddy has two 7210R's, both of them snapped the rear diffs when they were a year old, and neither of them did anything harder than pull a peanut plow. 8Rs are much better tractors all the way around, and that may or may not be saying much.
Same neighbors back in the 90's had either a 4755 or 4760 new as a 2WD. It wasn't much for tillage, but tote a planter or picking peanuts, it was nice. Always thought it was a sharp looking tractor, sure wouldn't have any qualms about having the 2WD version if I could find a nice one.
Looks like the 3020 has a liquid rebuild. Can't trust that. LOL
@@stevenpringle7813 I’m not sure any of them looked that good when they left the factory. Every square inch of that thing was mint +10. Highest price I’ve ever seen on that generation Deere.
The 5140 was a great deal.
If I was betting . Half of those tractors didn't actually sell . Probably see them at the next sale 200 miles down the road
C'est tres bon Patrick!
@@MrJoeindublin Merci Beaucoup!
Did you buy the Indian?
@@scottn7464 I was hosting my annual rifle competition and forgot to place my online bid. I may just make one myself. Been debating doing it for a while.
Seemed the sale prices were fairly healthy at this auction. NOTHING like the giveaways I've seen at Ritchie Bros when the broader economy is weak. I know the farm economy is a different animal, but ...
@@MrChassmith the 3020 sold crazy high, but the rest were dirt cheap compared to a year ago
That 4960 had four hydraulics
I know for a fact that a 4955 will go 18,500 hours on the original engine
@@MarshallLanier my dad has 2 4755s and a 4960 all with 24,000+ hours. 1 engine rebuild on each. New deere are lucky to get 8,000
I hope my wife ain't watching. Hahahahahahahaaha
@@jamesba4206she was in the room when the part 1 video played and I got in that orange GMC and was talking about how much I wanted to buy it. Without stopping what she was doing she said “if you bring another truck home we’re getting divorced” (she was joking of course)
I would be mad if somebody put sandy in my oil Or dirt I am a small farmer be safe out there your buddy from Nebraska
@@mathiggins4264 thanks for watching Matt!
The last time I saw that much junk I was in a wrecking yard
@@FailureatRetirement 😂this particular auction is known for having a lot of junk. I have 6 or 7 videos of it through the years (typically 2 per year).
I've been around the country and only seen i other 2wd 4960 and I know the guy that owns it.
There used to be a couple 4960 4 post tractors for sale about 20 years ago.
Looks like a lot of rode hard and painted up sows.
Why do you just go for the John deer junk and not other brands of tractors because you can't work on the green junk like you can the other brands because I run ac tractors only because I can work on them not like the green junk
@@johnberg4618 I show whatever is at the auction. I don’t control what is there for sale. Over 90% of all the farm tractors down south are John Deere. In this video I got on a Massey Ferguson, Ford, and a Case IH. In every farm auction video I do I go out of my way to feature non Deere tractors. At a typical auction in this region if there are 50 tractors around 42 of them will be Deere.
I encourage people to do just as you have and buy whatever they know how to work on. We are pretty knowledgeable on fixing Deere. I have multiple videos on this channel of us doing full engine swaps on 8225R and 8335R Deere.
@PatrickShivers that's why the farmers are moving away from the green junk because they can't work on them and why John deer is moving to Mexico or going out of business
@ there is a lot of misinformation about right to repair. I have a video called “killing the American Farmer” that dives into it along with other issues. Deere doesn’t stop anyone from working on their tractor. They will gladly sell you any part you want to buy and will not try to stop you from repairing your tractor. They got sued, and loss, over denying access to diagnostic software. They now sell the diagnostic software (because of losing the 2023 lawsuit) to anyone that wants to buy it.
Farmers are leaving Deere for other brands because we are finally being given some options. Deere dang near monopolized the tractor market in the 1990s. 15 years ago there wasn’t a non-Deere tractor dealership within 3 hours in any direction of my farm….and I live in the heart of Ag country. Today there is a Case dealer about 45 minutes southeast in one direction, the next one is multiple hours away. I can get to a Fendt or MF dealer in about an hour west, and the is a Versatile dealer about an hour and 15 straight east of here. There is a Deere dealer in every town.
Some looser probley stole the cap
@@rodneybalog4605 most likely