This old man rest in peace for starters, his book I was reading for a homework that was not even mine, but heck, was awesome, amazing story, this man was so damn dedicated to his work, focused on what he wanted. He made one of the best researches ive ever seen.
I visited the National Museum of Cambodia in 2018, and I confirm that the stèle was in the museum. At that time, I was not aware of this video. Thank you doctor for your contribution.
Make sense because Khmer Empire was the strongest there’s many iconic impossible temples were built proved there are many Wise people in Old Khmer. Proud to be Cambodian
Well, first of all R.I.P Dr. Aczel. He was a true researcher! His work was outstanding and wonderful towards finding the history of 'Shoonya' in the sense that he acknowledged the roots at least; none dared it in their work in the past. He did point rightly towards the Bakhshali manuscript and that the radiocarbon dating it would reveal something major. I wish if he was with us here in 2017 to see the carbon dating results from Oxford's Bodleian Libraries! www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/bodley/news/2017/sep-14 The backward journey continues...we don't know yet from which part of the world we might find a new recorded evidence/s in the future with technological advances to further establish the orgin of Zero; as of now it's the Bakhshali manuscript!
the numerals and zero were inevitable discovered in india...without which the incredible mathematical and astronomical precision of ancient india would not be possible....
+Avishek Mazumdar The zero concept was an Indian invention but the Indians never fully understood it as a numerical number by it's own right. That's the big difference.
Tee Touch shunya 0 was a shankya (number) if you check the scriptures which are thousands of years old...more specifically in taittirya samhita from yajurveda....
SO, had there been no inscription of zero in India, he would've concluded that India has got nothing to do with the invention of zero. He should've known that India is an oral tradition mostly. Aryabhat (5th century CE) explicitly uses the zero as a place holder and Brahmgupta (aprx 2 centuries later) touches upon the zero as emptiness. And it is widely accepted, at least in India, that zero's concept existed much before Aryabhat.
Yes, indeed the zero concept came from India to Cambodia no doubt and that zero concept was known in most of the world already. BUT.. the Indians failed to develop that concept into an actual number zero. That's the difference. You can say the Indians develop the concept of zero but the Khmers perfected it.
Too bad for your oral tradition. Sorry bro coz Khmers got this round. They ruled the day for this is the age of proof and evidence. 'Oral' traditions are limited to blow job only, in this time of drugs, sex and rock and roll. Who doesn't love that tradition. Go to pornhub and u'll see how much Indian aunties love it. Sorry Indian bro. Better luck next time until an older inscription is found in your holy land.
@@gametoppler Guess what? In September 2017, the Bodleian Libraries at the University of Oxford published the result of carbon dating the Bakhshali Manuscript - and confirmed that the said manuscript dates to between CE 200 and CE 400 (ie, 200 AD - 400 AD). You can view their 2' 51" video at ua-cam.com/video/pV_gXGTuWxY/v-deo.html . Sorry to disappoint you, "bro", but the Khmers did NOT get this round. The Bakhshali Manuscript offers definitive proof and written evidence that ancient Indians were well-versed in the practice of using zero as a placeholder - and that this Indian tradition pre-dates the inscription in Cambodia by centuries. Not that it matters terribly; if ancient Indians were happy to share their knowledge, culture and religion with the Khmers, what's a zero between friends? It may interest you to know that the famous temple at Angkor Wat was built by the Khmer king Suryavarman to the Hindu god Vishnu (of the famous Hindu trinity of Brahma - Vishnu - Shiva) before being gradually transformed into a Buddhist temple. The evidence of Indian influence here is two-fold: in the name 'Suryavarman' (in Sanskrit, 'Surya' means Sun), and the fact that the temple was dedicated to a Hindu god. Also, bear in mind that Gautama Buddha, the founder of Buddhism, was a Saka prince before he turned to religion (the Cambodian stela refers to the date 605 in the Saka calendar) and the Sakas ruled the region that is now in the northern part of the Indian state of Bihar and the southern part of Nepal. So, "bro", disregarding your juvenile references to sex, drugs, rock and roll and porn, the fact of the matter is that: (1) the proof and written evidence of ancient Indians using zero as as a place holder are to be found in the Bakhshali Manuscript, which was unearthed in the "holy land" of India in 1881 AD; (2) carbon dating by the Bodleian Library at the University of Oxford has proved the Bakhshali Manuscript to belong to the period 200 AD - 400 AD (ie, centuries before the evidence of the Cambodian stela); and (3) the influence of Hinduism on Khmers is evident in the temple of Angkor Wat being built by a Khmer king with a Hindu name - and dedicating the said temple to a Hindu god (not to mention that the date on the Cambodian stela refers to a calendar that originated in the "holy land" of India). QED Next time, educate yourself before commenting publicly. It's not that difficult in this day and age of Wikipedia. Who knows? You might even actually learn something, "bro" - if you can raise your consciousness above sex, drugs, rock and roll and porn.
The speaker spent so much time and effort focusing on (1) the "erotism" of Khajuraho (2) how an Indian "just goes on and on" about Indian ancient knowledge (3) That "Jew" guy from blah blah place Where he doesn't spend time is - how exactly did he get to know about this "artifact" that "no longer exists". I believe this guy is a fraud. He sounds religiously biased. I advise him to learn more about Indian texts. For the very strong reasons. (1) The theorm attributed to Pythagorus was indeed mentioned clearly by an Indian Hindu mathematician around 600 a.d. (2) By 600 a.d. Indian mathematicians had computed the value of Pi more precisely than anywhere else in the world. And he doesn't have to bluff about this invitation. I ask him to learn Sanskrit from a true scholar and study Indian mathematical texts.
So is he saying that zero was invented in Cambodia? Does he know that the manuscript from India that he referenced is a lot older than initially thought?
😂😂😂😂its indian moron where ur now we are true hindu people and buddha was also indian and zero as a numerals is given by brahmagupta tell it to ur self to make ur self good but it will always be indian
At the Khmer Legacy Museum in St. Paul, Minnesota, we have a complete history of the evolution of the number zero. From the Egyptian's conception of zyphr (baseline ) to the India's idea of Nirvana ( nothingness ) to the various symbols attempting to communicate what nothingness meant, to the Chinese' use of empty spaces, to the turtle like figures of the Mayans and the Babylonian's multiple attempts. If there is a more convincing evidence than the earliest number zero in 604 inscribed on the stone table as rediscovered by Mr. Amir Aczel we would very much welcome inclusion at the museum. Please kindly send your details to info@ikare.info. It is worth noting that Mr. Amir Aczel's journey to finding zero began in INDIA and traced its history to Cambodia. It is also worth noting that the dot as used in 604 by the Khmer for number zero was enlarged by the Indonesians just two years later. And subsequently fully enlarged as evidenced by a sansikrit number 270 in Gwaliar, India over 100 years later. And there is no doubt that the Khmer people have had a symbiotic relationship with the People of India. However, this relationship is akin to that of modern day England to America. For example, to speculate that the letter "A" came from England would be a gross statement to American, French, German, Italian, and many of the European nations. It is also worth noting that the Modern Day Angkor Wat is in Cambodia. The idea may have started in India or deeper into Mt. Meru. And where Mt. Meru is located is a topic of further discussion. However, the evidence ( not idea ) and not concept is in modern day Cambodia. Likewise, the K127 tablet rediscovered in Cambodia is the oldest evidence of number zero. The century following the oldest evidence of zero ( 604 ) marks the great construction of the Khmer empire which was the largest preindustrialized civilization equal to or greater than the Romans. It is conceivable that the zero was responsible for the engineering and sciences inscribed on the many temples across SE Asia today which was once part of the great Khmer empire.
saka calender is indian you fool.The Hindu and Bhuddhist tremple you have is also from Indian kings.Jaya varman is indian name.Where is Khemes now.We Hindus are still ruling the world of numbers everywhere enev in america.
Did he conclude that Cambodia was the source of zero and the year was approx 700ad?? And also his conclusion of place value system I think is not fully true. I respect his efforts but sadly the conclusions are very shallow. I think his personal interests are affecting his logic. many of his answers contain I don’t knows, then he says Veda means number 4🙄🙄 His best reference of Indian history is some Raju, possibly a moron who nobody knows😬
I am reading the Book just now. Very lucid and smooth flowing in writing and far from academic jargons. When I saw this talk, I became unable to resist myself from commenting although I have not yet finished the book. However, I see Kaye as really not trustworthy, and the writer skips the matter without reviewing enough literature about the Bakshali Manuscript. Apparently, zero has philosophical significance and we see in the Pali canon where Buddha uses the word shunya in both general and philosophical significances. However, it is really interesting that why the writer focus to Cambodia if Buddhism and Hinduism were originated in India? It is true that Cambodia was Hindu and Buddhist empire once in the past. It is also true that many eastern asian scripts, including Khmer alphabetical system, have Indian Origin. Besides we do not see any noticeable mathematical development in Cambodia. India has every possibility of the birth place of zero. We see Brahmagupta (598-674 AD) already had used zero in his mathematics before so called Cambodian inscription which has been dated Saka era 605 or 683 AD. Here, it is worthy to notice that Saka era is itself an Indian calendar. In conclusion, just because we see the oldest use of zero in Cambodian inscription we cannot decide that zero was invented in Cambodia. Yes, the idea of finit and infinit are also found in Buddhism. Once, Buddha was asked whether cosmos is finit or infinit, see the link www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.063.than.html
@ Bruce Halford, you are another fucking Idiot! How can you imagine that I am an Indian? Keep your stupidity away from academy. He is not a historian, he is just a mathematician.
R Leakey U're thinking is Indianized. That book u're reading has brainfked u it seems. Blind Indian. Do some research on Amir n read his books. He's no lesser than any of ur 'historians'. Blind fool.
R Leakey Better u watch the whole video n comment only then. U neither read ur (whatever) book full, u dn even watch the vid full n u open ur stupid mouth. When did he say 0 found in Cam. is the oldest? When u blithering fool? Didnt he say that the carbon dating of a small piece of Bakshali manuscript can change the whole course of debate itself n British r not letting it? FOOOOOOOL
Professor Marcus du Sautoy British mathematician, Simonyi Professor for the Public Understanding of Science at the University of Oxford says Zero as a numerical value to signify 'nothing' was by the Indian mathematician in 3rd or 4th century. The evidence was Radiocarbon dating of Bakhshālī Manuscript done by Bodleian Library Oxford, UK. This is on UA-cam channel Science Museum & title of video is ' When zero was first discovered'. Enjoy the 5 minutes video
Same here 🤣 I'm watching this because of C.K. Raju. His line "Relativity came from India, Euclid's theorem came from India"... Great way of covering facts with the above ☝️garbage . May the departed R.I.P but what utter nonsense... out right lies
Very good talk. I found it a bit surprising that he seemed so perplexed at the acts of destruction different groups have perpetrated against art. He censored erotic statuary right at the beginning of his talk. Is it hard to make the stretch that if you are so offended by simple depiction of a fundamentally human activity that you intentionally omit it when trying to show people that culture that a less civilized group would take the further step of destroying the art? They both had the same basic motives - prevent people from seeing or appreciating the art.
I appreciate his research in sculptural representations but I can't understand why his didn't do any research in the early science historical math discoveries of India that used zero earlier than represented in sculpture that he kind of stumbled upon. Gwalior is recent history in India and certainly late in its use of zero.
Oldest stone inscription of zero to date….nobody is refuting zero came from India. In the end ideas and knowledge are traded and migrate. Cambodia still has the largest Hindu monument ever built and no doubt we are related to India.
Tee Touch all the architecture around that time in khmer was of cholan design... So do you think that Khmers copied cholan architecture from such a far away land... Suryavarman is an cholan name... The folklore must be true....
Hey lets say I have a US passport and as you can see I have a picture of Ronnie James Dio, Also my name is Bruce (Dickinnson) Halford (Rob).... BINGOOOOOO now I am a white guy and I am an American. My ethnicity changed not just my nationality. My skin color has also suddenly changed. I dont have to use fairness cream. Yessssssssss Hey Fucktard, have u ever heard of Michael Jackson. He was a white guy. He was not a black dude. Do you know that? The old videos in which he was seen as a black boy are all conspiracy video morphed by illuminatis. Do you know that blind Indian? MJ was a WHITE MAN.
This guy found the first zero with its own space holder like our modern zero written in stone. It doesn't matter that zero with its own placeholder was invent by Khmer Empire or not but in record, it is one of the oldest written discovered so far. If someone find the older written, one would bring them up rather than attacking his credibility that had nothing to do with his finding.
Bruce Halford you are wrong.... The core of hinduism is peace and harmony..... Besides, I don't think u should comment without knowledge of the subject.... Hinduism is not exactly a religion.... It's a culture of peace..... We pray.... ॐ सर्वे भवन्तु सुखिनः सर्वे सन्तु निरामयाः । सर्वे भद्राणि पश्यन्तु मा कश्चिद्दुःखभाग्भवेत् । ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॥ Om Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah Sarve Santu Nir-Aamayaah | Sarve Bhadraanni Pashyantu Maa Kashcid-Duhkha-Bhaag-Bhavet | Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih || Meaning: 1: Om, May All become Happy, 2: May All be Free from Illness. 3: May All See what is Auspicious, 4: May no one Suffer. 5: Om Peace, Peace, Peace.
Avishek Mazumdar You seem to be a nice Indian. I think U can be not-despised, unlike ur blind pals. Good mantra and good meaning too. Peace V (Dont be blinded by the illusions: find the god within u, not some outside stories).
Fibonacci numbers connected by number zero... We should learn about Angkor architecture again, because Angkor architecture according to the fibonacci numbers, and the oldest zero was found in Angkor.
Asher Ouk I think those down votes might not be directed at the topic or the information provide, but rather the delivery, which I also find quite poor eg. lot's of confusing detours, he forgets to provide context, backtracking.
Martin Clausen Perhaps. But I watch lots of Cambodian culture-related stuff on UA-cam and am starting to see a distinct pattern. The internet is where people come to be surprised, and often they don't like the surprises.
Asher Ouk you can tell these white people are trying to discredit khmer inventions by asking silly questions like how do we know this zero wasn't invented later? Dude! The inscription was founded in a 7th century temple so how can it be done later?
White people? Nah. More like Thai or Vietnamese internet trolls. People in the West love Cambodia, whereas Cambodia's Asian neighbours tend to look down on Cambodia.
The most famous king of Babylon was Asur Bani Pal, sounds very Indian and the word Asur was mentioned even in the Rig Veda, the oldest of the four Vedas. Dr. Raju may be correct, although many western people will laugh at him. Prof. Attiyah of Cambridge University and a Fellow of the Royal Society copied a theory of Dr. Raju and got away with it. If I say, it was not Marconi but JC Bose invented Radio Transmission before Marconi and got the American patent, many may laugh at me, but I have proved in my book, India as Organization, published by Macmillan Press that indeed JC Bose invented radio transmission.
This guy is a phony. Bakshali manuscript has been dated to around 200 AD. Sloan foundation has been taken for a ride. Which way the influence went, he is distorting the history. The stone he is showing looks like a Tamil inscription.
Zero was developed with influence of buddhist concept emptiness of nagarjuna philosophy not everything come from hinduism even shankaracharya was heavily influnced by nagarjuna philosophy
So does he know that the Zero is Indian? He went to Angkor Wat which was built by an Indian King who used ZERO which means that Zero was Indian... Or he just ignorant that he doesn't know that Buddhism comes from India too?
ha ha how cute, try to understand my question first. Suryaverma is an Indian name, its sanskrit, how the fuck did you khmer king be called surya verma? that means he was of indian ethnicity, meaning his ancestors were indian. lmfao such a dumbass you are. Suryaverma built a temple to Vishnu, so vishnu is an Indian god, lmfao where the stupid fuck is it not related to india? HAHAHAH IF he converted, you have no proof that he converted LMFAO.
lol i think you should first learn some history, the Indian Chola/Pandya and otehr kings rules cambodia, so they left behind their knowledge, and some people. Thats how Cambodian natives even got to know of many things, religion, language and culture etc. So again use your dumb brain, how is it NOT related to INDIA? LMFAO
Chola subordinates and chola influence, either way cambodians got heavily influenced by India, else maybe there was no way they wouldve built vishnu temple or even discovered zero. lmfao
According to our college professor the decimal number system was based in Hindu-Arabic number system where basic digits of counting use 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 that were adapted by Arabs from Indians, but the Arabs also added the 0 to the number system. I don't know how accurate such information, we may investigate. Zero may have just been a concept used by the Indians in philosophy during ancient times, but perhaps the Arabs may have been the ones that used it early as numeral. On the other hand the ancient Mayan civilization in South America separately developed vigesimal number system which included zero numeral.
Thank you so much for the kind words. My mother, Debra Aczel and I have set up a fund in honor of my father Amir, for anyone who wishes to support the installation of the stele in a museum in Cambodia: www.gofundme.com/nqgccz24 Thank you!
***** Your father was a mighty man with a beautiful mind. My condolences to you and your mother. May his craft will be cherished and his legacy honoured for the rest of time.
Frankly, extremely surprised that a mathematician interested in the history of the zero did not mention the Babylonians and the Sumerians, who were the first people in the world to develop a counting system and invented the zero. He even dismissed Persian mathematician, al-Khowarizmi. I am not convinced that there is relationship between Buddhist concept of nothingness or emptiness and the number zero. Completely different subjects. Your research was more based on places you want to visit.
Finally.... someone with intellectual understanding of historical concepts devoid of racist thinking, the proof of India's major paternal lineages represented by Y chromosomes in haplogroup R1a proves by DNA evidence of this Persian haplogroup present in India as founder effect closes the deal on this [men may lie through their teeth but DNA will never lie] this along with linguistic evidence in that Aveestan is the mother of Sanskrit, cuneiform tablets and archeology prove India & Babylon trade from 6000 years ago. Well done Puni Pantaluni the golden zero is yours.
Zero is a numerical number by it's own right. Nothing (zero) is not an idea it is a place holder before life and afterlife. It stands for the opposite of something (x,y,z and etc) temporary endeavor with the present of "space time" to find and understand zero (nothing) with the clear hint from the books of the prophets and/or ancient tablets "from dust (nothing) we came and to dust (nothing) we returned". It is conceivable that the zero was responsible for the engineering and sciences inscribed on the many temples across SE Asia today which was once part of the great Khmer empire.There is no GOD but ALLAH. ALLAH is not GOD but "The Nothing" is the only Almighty One created by none. Spiritually connected to zero (nothing) apart from mathematical, computers, sciences , safety, nothingness and etc.. is utmost importance in our way of life (culture and belief). For example the communist is associated with nothing except something (x, y, z and etc) and similar to secular systems. To find and discover zero (before and after Big Bang) for the full understanding of the reasons of our existence and beginning/ending. The efforts for finding the first zero is the first step in a long journey yet to be realized.
Amir Aczel is clearly misrepresenting the facts here. Finding a Glyph in Combodia does give an evidence that earliest zero was found there, but it needs to be explained that the Saka Calendar and the script on the temple stone is Indian in origin. Also the culture on Combodia in 7th century is clearly Indic . I.E. it is the same Civilisation with deep cultural and economic links. This finding only proves further that the idea of Zero and decimal number system is of Indian origin.
C K Raju never claimed that Einstein's relativity was discovered by Indians. Late Amir Aczel has distorted truth here. Mr C K Raju has responded to these claims Amir Aczel here: www.primeargument.com/2017/07/c-k-raju-responds-to-amir-aczels-claims.html "Saw the video. I didn't know he was such a hopeless l**r. This is irresponsible even as a joke." C K Raju
I can't watch this... it's painfull after 13 mins... with so much discredit to India... When learned people talk like this... what do you expect from others... . they use the words like "magic", "strange" for India even though the carving of that so called 4x4 magic square is in front of him . "they claim that history of India is millions of years ago, so of course they don't know what they are talking about"... he just spoke of Ramanujan and he thinks he knows what he's talking about . Well our "Swadeshi Indology" will slap proofs over these "Western Indologists"... will take some time... but we'll see . Aryan-Invasion Theory debunked... more to come
Watch Aczel's way of discrediting, there is something different about the way he does and the way other westerners do, ! to catch audience interest he throws masala and pointed right towards this amazing work - also pushed by another westerner (but married to Indian! ):) www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/bodley/news/2017/sep-14
This old man rest in peace for starters, his book I was reading for a homework that was not even mine, but heck, was awesome, amazing story, this man was so damn dedicated to his work, focused on what he wanted. He made one of the best researches ive ever seen.
I visited the National Museum of Cambodia in 2018, and I confirm that the stèle was in the museum. At that time, I was not aware of this video. Thank you doctor for your contribution.
The researcher who using wikipedia as his references, Now we can understand what kind of researcher he is
Make sense because Khmer Empire was the strongest there’s many iconic impossible temples were built proved there are many Wise people in Old Khmer. Proud to be Cambodian
Well, first of all R.I.P Dr. Aczel. He was a true researcher! His work was outstanding and wonderful towards finding the history of 'Shoonya' in the sense that he acknowledged the roots at least; none dared it in their work in the past. He did point rightly towards the Bakhshali manuscript and that the radiocarbon dating it would reveal something major. I wish if he was with us here in 2017 to see the carbon dating results from Oxford's Bodleian Libraries!
www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/bodley/news/2017/sep-14
The backward journey continues...we don't know yet from which part of the world we might find a new recorded evidence/s in the future with technological advances to further establish the orgin of Zero; as of now it's the Bakhshali manuscript!
Thank you for the reference!
Does he know that ancient india also expanded till indonesia. Including Thailand.
He was talking about evidence, not hypothesis.
the numerals and zero were inevitable discovered in india...without which the incredible mathematical and astronomical precision of ancient india would not be possible....
+Avishek Mazumdar The zero concept was an Indian invention but the Indians never fully understood it as a numerical number by it's own right. That's the big difference.
Tee Touch shunya 0 was a shankya (number) if you check the scriptures which are thousands of years old...more specifically in taittirya samhita from yajurveda....
Avishek Mazumdar the indians used words to describe a zero not numbers in their own right.
Hey moron we give the rules and laws of zero okay 1st learn the history
by far the best history of zero I can find on you tube!! such a fascinating story!!!
SO, had there been no inscription of zero in India, he would've concluded that India has got nothing to do with the invention of zero. He should've known that India is an oral tradition mostly. Aryabhat (5th century CE) explicitly uses the zero as a place holder and Brahmgupta (aprx 2 centuries later) touches upon the zero as emptiness. And it is widely accepted, at least in India, that zero's concept existed much before Aryabhat.
Yes, indeed the zero concept came from India to Cambodia no doubt and that zero concept was known in most of the world already. BUT.. the Indians failed to develop that concept into an actual number zero. That's the difference. You can say the Indians develop the concept of zero but the Khmers perfected it.
Too bad for your oral tradition. Sorry bro coz Khmers got this round. They ruled the day for this is the age of proof and evidence. 'Oral' traditions are limited to blow job only, in this time of drugs, sex and rock and roll. Who doesn't love that tradition. Go to pornhub and u'll see how much Indian aunties love it. Sorry Indian bro. Better luck next time until an older inscription is found in your holy land.
Bruce Halford wow...I have never come across a more nuanced and intellectual argument such as yours. Thanks
You're most welcome with a BIG 0.
@@gametoppler Guess what? In September 2017, the Bodleian Libraries at the University of Oxford published the result of carbon dating the Bakhshali Manuscript - and confirmed that the said manuscript dates to between CE 200 and CE 400 (ie, 200 AD - 400 AD). You can view their 2' 51" video at ua-cam.com/video/pV_gXGTuWxY/v-deo.html .
Sorry to disappoint you, "bro", but the Khmers did NOT get this round. The Bakhshali Manuscript offers definitive proof and written evidence that ancient Indians were well-versed in the practice of using zero as a placeholder - and that this Indian tradition pre-dates the inscription in Cambodia by centuries. Not that it matters terribly; if ancient Indians were happy to share their knowledge, culture and religion with the Khmers, what's a zero between friends?
It may interest you to know that the famous temple at Angkor Wat was built by the Khmer king Suryavarman to the Hindu god Vishnu (of the famous Hindu trinity of Brahma - Vishnu - Shiva) before being gradually transformed into a Buddhist temple. The evidence of Indian influence here is two-fold: in the name 'Suryavarman' (in Sanskrit, 'Surya' means Sun), and the fact that the temple was dedicated to a Hindu god.
Also, bear in mind that Gautama Buddha, the founder of Buddhism, was a Saka prince before he turned to religion (the Cambodian stela refers to the date 605 in the Saka calendar) and the Sakas ruled the region that is now in the northern part of the Indian state of Bihar and the southern part of Nepal.
So, "bro", disregarding your juvenile references to sex, drugs, rock and roll and porn, the fact of the matter is that:
(1) the proof and written evidence of ancient Indians using zero as as a place holder are to be found in the Bakhshali Manuscript, which was unearthed in the "holy land" of India in 1881 AD;
(2) carbon dating by the Bodleian Library at the University of Oxford has proved the Bakhshali Manuscript to belong to the period 200 AD - 400 AD (ie, centuries before the evidence of the Cambodian stela); and
(3) the influence of Hinduism on Khmers is evident in the temple of Angkor Wat being built by a Khmer king with a Hindu name - and dedicating the said temple to a Hindu god (not to mention that the date on the Cambodian stela refers to a calendar that originated in the "holy land" of India).
QED
Next time, educate yourself before commenting publicly. It's not that difficult in this day and age of Wikipedia. Who knows? You might even actually learn something, "bro" - if you can raise your consciousness above sex, drugs, rock and roll and porn.
The speaker spent so much time and effort focusing on
(1) the "erotism" of Khajuraho
(2) how an Indian "just goes on and on" about Indian ancient knowledge
(3) That "Jew" guy from blah blah place
Where he doesn't spend time is - how exactly did he get to know about this "artifact" that "no longer exists".
I believe this guy is a fraud. He sounds religiously biased.
I advise him to learn more about Indian texts. For the very strong reasons.
(1) The theorm attributed to Pythagorus was indeed mentioned clearly by an Indian Hindu mathematician around 600 a.d.
(2) By 600 a.d. Indian mathematicians had computed the value of Pi more precisely than anywhere else in the world.
And he doesn't have to bluff about this invitation. I ask him to learn Sanskrit from a true scholar and study Indian mathematical texts.
The inscription shown was looking like insciptions which were on our Thirupathi temple walls and look like prakrutam
You are right. The script used in that script is same as Tamil/Kannada.
My thought is the same.
So is he saying that zero was invented in Cambodia? Does he know that the manuscript from India that he referenced is a lot older than initially thought?
Thank you so much as Cambodian I'm very proud of this!
Welcome guy and i should thanks to my ancestors too to give this us ❤️
😂😂😂😂its indian moron where ur now we are true hindu people and buddha was also indian and zero as a numerals is given by brahmagupta tell it to ur self to make ur self good but it will always be indian
It's the law of nature that gave such greatest gift to all mankind.
At the Khmer Legacy Museum in St. Paul, Minnesota, we have a complete history of the evolution of the number zero. From the Egyptian's conception of zyphr (baseline ) to the India's idea of Nirvana ( nothingness ) to the various symbols attempting to communicate what nothingness meant, to the Chinese' use of empty spaces, to the turtle like figures of the Mayans and the Babylonian's multiple attempts. If there is a more convincing evidence than the earliest number zero in 604 inscribed on the stone table as rediscovered by Mr. Amir Aczel we would very much welcome inclusion at the museum. Please kindly send your details to info@ikare.info. It is worth noting that Mr. Amir Aczel's journey to finding zero began in INDIA and traced its history to Cambodia. It is also worth noting that the dot as used in 604 by the Khmer for number zero was enlarged by the Indonesians just two years later. And subsequently fully enlarged as evidenced by a sansikrit number 270 in Gwaliar, India over 100 years later. And there is no doubt that the Khmer people have had a symbiotic relationship with the People of India. However, this relationship is akin to that of modern day England to America. For example, to speculate that the letter "A" came from England would be a gross statement to American, French, German, Italian, and many of the European nations. It is also worth noting that the Modern Day Angkor Wat is in Cambodia. The idea may have started in India or deeper into Mt. Meru. And where Mt. Meru is located is a topic of further discussion. However, the evidence ( not idea ) and not concept is in modern day Cambodia. Likewise, the K127 tablet rediscovered in Cambodia is the oldest evidence of number zero. The century following the oldest evidence of zero ( 604 ) marks the great construction of the Khmer empire which was the largest preindustrialized civilization equal to or greater than the Romans. It is conceivable that the zero was responsible for the engineering and sciences inscribed on the many temples across SE Asia today which was once part of the great Khmer empire.
Excellent assessment.
Aryabhatta invented zero. He was Indian .
ua-cam.com/video/pV_gXGTuWxY/v-deo.html www.theguardian.com/science/2017/sep/14/much-ado-about-nothing-ancient-indian-text-contains-earliest-zero-symbol
saka calender is indian you fool.The Hindu and Bhuddhist tremple you have is also from Indian kings.Jaya varman is indian name.Where is Khemes now.We Hindus are still ruling the world of numbers everywhere enev in america.
I read that Vaskaracharya invented Zero before Aryabhatta, in the 2nd century.
@@devivinod this guy is so stupid and he is addressing the audience
Did he conclude that Cambodia was the source of zero and the year was approx 700ad?? And also his conclusion of place value system I think is not fully true. I respect his efforts but sadly the conclusions are very shallow.
I think his personal interests are affecting his logic.
many of his answers contain I don’t knows, then he says Veda means number 4🙄🙄
His best reference of Indian history is some Raju, possibly a moron who nobody knows😬
I am reading the Book just now. Very lucid and smooth flowing in writing and far from academic jargons. When I saw this talk, I became unable to resist myself from commenting although I have not yet finished the book. However, I see Kaye as really not trustworthy, and the writer skips the matter without reviewing enough literature about the Bakshali Manuscript. Apparently, zero has philosophical significance and we see in the Pali canon where Buddha uses the word shunya in both general and philosophical significances. However, it is really interesting that why the writer focus to Cambodia if Buddhism and Hinduism were originated in India? It is true that Cambodia was Hindu and Buddhist empire once in the past. It is also true that many eastern asian scripts, including Khmer alphabetical system, have Indian Origin. Besides we do not see any noticeable mathematical development in Cambodia. India has every possibility of the birth place of zero. We see Brahmagupta (598-674 AD) already had used zero in his mathematics before so called Cambodian inscription which has been dated Saka era 605 or 683 AD. Here, it is worthy to notice that Saka era is itself an Indian calendar. In conclusion, just because we see the oldest use of zero in Cambodian inscription we cannot decide that zero was invented in Cambodia. Yes, the idea of finit and infinit are also found in Buddhism. Once, Buddha was asked whether cosmos is finit or infinit, see the link www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.063.than.html
Another blind Indian. Keep coming. Keep coming.
@ Bruce Halford, you are another fucking Idiot! How can you imagine that I am an Indian? Keep your stupidity away from academy. He is not a historian, he is just a mathematician.
@ Tee Touch, not at all! Give some valid proof!
R Leakey U're thinking is Indianized. That book u're reading has brainfked u it seems. Blind Indian. Do some research on Amir n read his books. He's no lesser than any of ur 'historians'. Blind fool.
R Leakey Better u watch the whole video n comment only then. U neither read ur (whatever) book full, u dn even watch the vid full n u open ur stupid mouth. When did he say 0 found in Cam. is the oldest? When u blithering fool? Didnt he say that the carbon dating of a small piece of Bakshali manuscript can change the whole course of debate itself n British r not letting it? FOOOOOOOL
Professor Marcus du Sautoy British mathematician, Simonyi Professor for the Public Understanding of Science at the University of Oxford says Zero as a numerical value to signify 'nothing' was by the Indian mathematician in 3rd or 4th century. The evidence was Radiocarbon dating of Bakhshālī Manuscript done by Bodleian Library Oxford, UK. This is on UA-cam channel Science Museum & title of video is ' When zero was first discovered'. Enjoy the 5 minutes video
Now i understand why he is spewing nonsense
Ck raju slapped him😜
Same here 🤣
I'm watching this because of C.K. Raju. His line "Relativity came from India, Euclid's theorem came from India"...
Great way of covering facts with the above ☝️garbage
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May the departed R.I.P but what utter nonsense... out right lies
Very good talk. I found it a bit surprising that he seemed so perplexed at the acts of destruction different groups have perpetrated against art. He censored erotic statuary right at the beginning of his talk. Is it hard to make the stretch that if you are so offended by simple depiction of a fundamentally human activity that you intentionally omit it when trying to show people that culture that a less civilized group would take the further step of destroying the art? They both had the same basic motives - prevent people from seeing or appreciating the art.
He is doing lots of guessing work
I appreciate his research in sculptural representations but I can't understand why his didn't do any research in the early science historical math discoveries of India that used zero earlier than represented in sculpture that he kind of stumbled upon. Gwalior is recent history in India and certainly late in its use of zero.
What do u expect from a turkic
He was amazing
Credit goes to hindus despite you not giving it.
I have read all his books, wow had no idea that he is no longer with us, what a man. R.I.P.
The numbers we use today are called the HINDU-ARABIC numerals not cambodian numerals. Case closed.
Oldest stone inscription of zero to date….nobody is refuting zero came from India. In the end ideas and knowledge are traded and migrate. Cambodia still has the largest Hindu monument ever built and no doubt we are related to India.
Rest in Peace... This is it...
an indian prince had been married to a khmer princess, which is how the kingdom of suryavarman came about....
+Avishek Mazumdar That is just folklore. There is no concrete evidence of that marriage found anywhere.
Tee Touch all the architecture around that time in khmer was of cholan design... So do you think that Khmers copied cholan architecture from such a far away land... Suryavarman is an cholan name... The folklore must be true....
Avishek Mazumdar He was a khmer king ethnically but his Empire was Hindu culture.
Hey lets say I have a US passport and as you can see I have a picture of Ronnie James Dio, Also my name is Bruce (Dickinnson) Halford (Rob).... BINGOOOOOO now I am a white guy and I am an American. My ethnicity changed not just my nationality. My skin color has also suddenly changed. I dont have to use fairness cream. Yessssssssss
Hey Fucktard, have u ever heard of Michael Jackson. He was a white guy. He was not a black dude. Do you know that? The old videos in which he was seen as a black boy are all conspiracy video morphed by illuminatis. Do you know that blind Indian? MJ was a WHITE MAN.
I think u need to know about MJ biography he is not white guy. He did plastic surgery more than 2 times.....
So awesome
This guy found the first zero with its own space holder like our modern zero written in stone. It doesn't matter that zero with its own placeholder was invent by Khmer Empire or not but in record, it is one of the oldest written discovered so far. If someone find the older written, one would bring them up rather than attacking his credibility that had nothing to do with his finding.
He mentioned that there is another one in Indonesia much older than the one in Cambodia, but he never gave us any photo of that.
100 percent indian origin!!
Nothing is not an idea it is a place holder. It stands for the opposite of something.
There are zeros(gaps) in every sentence or phrase or more than one words
they were the ancient cholans from india
Bruce Halford whats your problem.... Did I say something offensive.....
Bruce Halford you are wrong.... The core of hinduism is peace and harmony..... Besides, I don't think u should comment without knowledge of the subject.... Hinduism is not exactly a religion.... It's a culture of peace.....
We pray....
ॐ सर्वे भवन्तु सुखिनः
सर्वे सन्तु निरामयाः ।
सर्वे भद्राणि पश्यन्तु
मा कश्चिद्दुःखभाग्भवेत् ।
ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॥
Om Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah
Sarve Santu Nir-Aamayaah |
Sarve Bhadraanni Pashyantu
Maa Kashcid-Duhkha-Bhaag-Bhavet |
Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih ||
Meaning:
1: Om, May All become Happy,
2: May All be Free from Illness.
3: May All See what is Auspicious,
4: May no one Suffer.
5: Om Peace, Peace, Peace.
Avishek Mazumdar You seem to be a nice Indian. I think U can be not-despised, unlike ur blind pals. Good mantra and good meaning too.
Peace V (Dont be blinded by the illusions: find the god within u, not some outside stories).
Bruce Halford thats true... have a wonderful life!!!!
i cant help but compare the symbols in the stone to bengali and sanskrit symbols...obviously they are indian symbols...
Sa (blank) riii (blank) ga ma and so on
No matter where it come from. But truth has to be preserved for a better future
💕❤😍👍Amir Aczel🍀
Fibonacci numbers connected by number zero... We should learn about Angkor architecture again, because Angkor architecture according to the fibonacci numbers, and the oldest zero was found in Angkor.
Seriously who the fuck disliked this?
Asher Ouk I think those down votes might not be directed at the topic or the information provide, but rather the delivery, which I also find quite poor eg. lot's of confusing detours, he forgets to provide context, backtracking.
Martin Clausen Perhaps. But I watch lots of Cambodian culture-related stuff on UA-cam and am starting to see a distinct pattern. The internet is where people come to be surprised, and often they don't like the surprises.
Asher Ouk you can tell these white people are trying to discredit khmer inventions by asking silly questions like how do we know this zero wasn't invented later? Dude! The inscription was founded in a 7th century temple so how can it be done later?
White people? Nah. More like Thai or Vietnamese internet trolls. People in the West love Cambodia, whereas Cambodia's Asian neighbours tend to look down on Cambodia.
+Asher Ouk I'm from the UK and know little about Cambodia so it's always nice to learn something :)
yea the philosophy of voidness exist in buddhism. though it came from india. great scientific discovery by buddhist philosophy
The most famous king of Babylon was Asur Bani Pal, sounds very Indian and the word Asur was mentioned even in the Rig Veda, the oldest of the four Vedas.
Dr. Raju may be correct, although many western people will laugh at him. Prof. Attiyah of Cambridge University and a Fellow of the Royal Society copied a theory of Dr. Raju and got away with it.
If I say, it was not Marconi but JC Bose invented Radio Transmission before Marconi and got the American patent, many may laugh at me, but I have proved in my book, India as Organization, published by Macmillan Press that indeed JC Bose invented radio transmission.
This guy is a phony. Bakshali manuscript has been dated to around 200 AD. Sloan foundation has been taken for a ride. Which way the influence went, he is distorting the history. The stone he is showing looks like a Tamil inscription.
This guy has ego bigger than the universe...and demeaning indians
he doesn't even know that Jayavarman was a hindu. he said he was a buddhist. what a scholar 😺
Zero was developed with influence of buddhist concept emptiness of nagarjuna philosophy not everything come from hinduism even shankaracharya was heavily influnced by nagarjuna philosophy
@@chamarama9349bro Buddhism is hinduism okay dont try to divide like abrahamic religion
Why are you curious about the number "zero"? When you are asking this question, do look at a woman closely.
So does he know that the Zero is Indian? He went to Angkor Wat which was built by an Indian King who used ZERO which means that Zero was Indian... Or he just ignorant that he doesn't know that Buddhism comes from India too?
What was the name of that khmer king? what do you think his ethnicity was? lmfao? dont tell me the name suryaverma was a cambodian native, so dumb.
ha ha how cute, try to understand my question first. Suryaverma is an Indian name, its sanskrit, how the fuck did you khmer king be called surya verma? that means he was of indian ethnicity, meaning his ancestors were indian. lmfao such a dumbass you are.
Suryaverma built a temple to Vishnu, so vishnu is an Indian god, lmfao where the stupid fuck is it not related to india? HAHAHAH
IF he converted, you have no proof that he converted LMFAO.
lol i think you should first learn some history, the Indian Chola/Pandya and otehr kings rules cambodia, so they left behind their knowledge, and some people.
Thats how Cambodian natives even got to know of many things, religion, language and culture etc.
So again use your dumb brain, how is it NOT related to INDIA? LMFAO
lmfao, use google you ignorant piece of shit. XD
Chola subordinates and chola influence, either way cambodians got heavily influenced by India, else maybe there was no way they wouldve built vishnu temple or even discovered zero. lmfao
0 IS AN ITERATION ENABLER FOR SURE
According to our college professor the decimal number system was based in Hindu-Arabic number system where basic digits of counting use 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 that were adapted by Arabs from Indians, but the Arabs also added the 0 to the number system. I don't know how accurate such information, we may investigate. Zero may have just been a concept used by the Indians in philosophy during ancient times, but perhaps the Arabs may have been the ones that used it early as numeral.
On the other hand the ancient Mayan civilization in South America separately developed vigesimal number system which included zero numeral.
😂😂😂😂
That means ur professor is dumb
R.I.P., Dr. Aczel.
+Jeong Sep Sihm OMG i just found out. What happened, how did he die? I am so saddened by this. Was he assassinated?
+Unfinished Business
Amir Aczel, Author of Scientific Cliffhanger, Dies at 65 nyti.ms/1jM8IQ1
Jeong Sep Sihm It said his wife said he died of cancer. So sad.
Thank you so much for the kind words. My mother, Debra Aczel and I have set up a fund in honor of my father Amir, for anyone who wishes to support the installation of the stele in a museum in Cambodia:
www.gofundme.com/nqgccz24
Thank you!
***** Your father was a mighty man with a beautiful mind. My condolences to you and your mother. May his craft will be cherished and his legacy honoured for the rest of time.
He is speaking wrong facts..A. F. R. Hoernlé. was the first one to study The Bhakshali Manuscript.....
Frankly, extremely surprised that a mathematician interested in the history of the zero did not mention the Babylonians and the Sumerians, who were the first people in the world to develop a counting system and invented the zero. He even dismissed Persian mathematician, al-Khowarizmi. I am not convinced that there is relationship between Buddhist concept of nothingness or emptiness and the number zero. Completely different subjects. Your research was more based on places you want to visit.
Finally.... someone with intellectual understanding of historical concepts devoid of racist thinking, the proof of India's major paternal lineages represented by Y chromosomes in haplogroup R1a proves by DNA evidence of this Persian haplogroup present in India as founder effect closes the deal on this [men may lie through their teeth but DNA will never lie] this along with linguistic evidence in that Aveestan is the mother of Sanskrit, cuneiform tablets and archeology prove India & Babylon trade from 6000 years ago. Well done Puni Pantaluni the golden zero is yours.
When you are curious about the number "1", do look at a man closely.
Literally he is very jealous
He is hiding every fact
Any sensible person can break his nonsense by just comparing the true side(east)
Zero is a numerical number by it's own right. Nothing (zero) is not an idea it is a place holder before life and afterlife. It stands for the opposite of something (x,y,z and etc) temporary endeavor with the present of "space time" to find and understand zero (nothing) with the clear hint from the books of the prophets and/or ancient tablets "from dust (nothing) we came and to dust (nothing) we returned". It is conceivable that the zero was responsible for the engineering and sciences inscribed on the many temples across SE Asia today which was once part of the great Khmer empire.There is no GOD but ALLAH. ALLAH is not GOD but "The Nothing" is the only Almighty One created by none. Spiritually connected to zero (nothing) apart from mathematical, computers, sciences , safety, nothingness and etc.. is utmost importance in our way of life (culture and belief). For example the communist is associated with nothing except something (x, y, z and etc) and similar to secular systems. To find and discover zero (before and after Big Bang) for the full understanding of the reasons of our existence and beginning/ending. The efforts for finding the first zero is the first step in a long journey yet to be realized.
rubbish rant.. allah hu fuckbar
Zero is built upon tje philosophy of brahman wow i like ur answer u ignore the entire indian history
This guy is a complete charlatan
Amir Aczel is clearly misrepresenting the facts here. Finding a Glyph in Combodia does give an evidence that earliest zero was found there, but it needs to be explained that the Saka Calendar and the script on the temple stone is Indian in origin. Also the culture on Combodia in 7th century is clearly Indic . I.E. it is the same Civilisation with deep cultural and economic links. This finding only proves further that the idea of Zero and decimal number system is of Indian origin.
C K Raju never claimed that Einstein's relativity was discovered by Indians. Late Amir Aczel has distorted truth here. Mr C K Raju has responded to these claims Amir Aczel here: www.primeargument.com/2017/07/c-k-raju-responds-to-amir-aczels-claims.html
"Saw the video. I didn't know he was such a hopeless l**r. This is irresponsible even as a joke." C K Raju
Void communicates nothing and everything
I can't watch this... it's painfull after 13 mins... with so much discredit to India... When learned people talk like this... what do you expect from others...
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they use the words like "magic", "strange" for India even though the carving of that so called 4x4 magic square is in front of him
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"they claim that history of India is millions of years ago, so of course they don't know what they are talking about"... he just spoke of Ramanujan and he thinks he knows what he's talking about
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Well our "Swadeshi Indology" will slap proofs over these "Western Indologists"... will take some time... but we'll see
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Aryan-Invasion Theory debunked... more to come
Watch Aczel's way of discrediting, there is something different about the way he does and the way other westerners do, ! to catch audience interest he throws masala and pointed right towards this amazing work - also pushed by another westerner (but married to Indian! ):) www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/bodley/news/2017/sep-14
What an empty useless talk
The zero came from Babylon, period.
Lisa Bernier google it
Hahahahah
D.Aczel is always close minded... best if he retired