What Is Torque And How Can It Help You Jump Higher?

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  • Опубліковано 6 тра 2024
  • In today's video John and Isaiah describe how internal and external torques affect an athlete's potential potential to jump higher.
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  • @samratkc457
    @samratkc457 Місяць тому +18

    00:01 Torque is crucial for jumping higher
    02:07 Torque results from applying force off-center
    06:13 Understanding and overcoming external torque in lifts
    08:22 Understanding torque for better jumping performance
    12:59 Understanding torque distribution on the body while lifting weights.
    15:15 Longer limbs require more torque to lift the same weight.
    19:26 Understanding torque and its impact on internal force application.
    22:12 Shorter people can lift more weight due to external torque variations.
    25:41 Shorter individuals may need to generate more torque in order to lift the same weight as taller individuals.
    27:31 Leverage and torque impact jumping ability.

  • @JohnEvans
    @JohnEvans Місяць тому +26

    As an aside for after this video has like 10k+ views, I am NOT a physics professor so if there's something you super nerds catch that I messed up feel free to comment below my mistake! Thanks!

  • @JohnEvans
    @JohnEvans Місяць тому +68

    I'm here to learn about torque from myself

    • @daceydunks
      @daceydunks Місяць тому +7

      Way to be a student John

    • @juhbell1852
      @juhbell1852 Місяць тому +4

      Just got a 95 in physics this semester so I’ve already learned everything there is to know about it

    • @JohnEvans
      @JohnEvans Місяць тому +3

      @@juhbell1852 Watch this full thing and tell me everything I said wrong with time stamps. jk plz don't

    • @juhbell1852
      @juhbell1852 Місяць тому +4

      @@JohnEvans0:00-29:15 👍

    • @JohnEvans
      @JohnEvans Місяць тому +4

      @@juhbell1852 HAHAHAHA labeling the whole podcast is crazy

  • @KobsterEdits
    @KobsterEdits Місяць тому +14

    Been doing plyos for 2 months and got from just touching the backboard to dunking a tennis ball at 5'11"

    • @cheese2127
      @cheese2127 Місяць тому +1

      whats your vertical?

  • @QuangNguyen-vf3nz
    @QuangNguyen-vf3nz Місяць тому +3

    This is why I love jump training that dives deep into numbers like this because at the end of the day, it's just about math and physic formula. You match the number, you jump that high.

    • @user-jf9fd8pc6n
      @user-jf9fd8pc6n 20 днів тому +1

      Yeah but there are lot of things you can't change which we often generally perceive and mark as "Talent". For example you can't change your muscle/tendon insertion point & angle which makes a huge role in more efficiently utilizing and directing the created force from muscle. Another example, you can't change the muscle architecture in your pennate horn muscles.

    • @QuangNguyen-vf3nz
      @QuangNguyen-vf3nz 20 днів тому +1

      @@user-jf9fd8pc6n Such "talent" will definitely be an upper limit determining factor. If there's a number we can't match then that means we haven't trained to it yet. And by number in my statement above, what I meant was the one variable that affects jump height no matter our stats that is jump velocity, aka the speed at which you take off and explode upward. It doesn't matter how heavy or strong we are, if our bodies can handle the force of incoming velocity and produce the necessary speed to reach, let's say 40 inches, then we will reach 40 inches vert.

  • @tezzachannel2193
    @tezzachannel2193 Місяць тому

    Greatest contents always from THP!!

  • @srjt9000
    @srjt9000 Місяць тому

    Amazing video

  • @timothypollock8358
    @timothypollock8358 Місяць тому +2

    Very interesting but I would add, as I understand it, that you could have two people with identical lever systems and that can both move the same weight (say in a squat) but if one of them can move it significantly faster in the critical window where the levers are longest relative to the direction of external force necessary for the movement, that one will be able to jump significantly higher than the other one. This relates to speed of muscle recruitment and ultimately power output. I've seen references to explosive athletes being told to target moving a weight (in the right weight range for an athlete of a specific size and weight) at between .2 and .5 m/s in that critical maximum leverage window. I'm no expert but am very interested in the subject. Have you ever seen strongman Dennis Rogers? Studies show that his otherworldly strength to size ratio is due to his speed in recruiting motor units to a specific force output which is absolutely freakish. Cheers.

  • @broadliam
    @broadliam Місяць тому

    Thanks john

  • @HlM.
    @HlM. Місяць тому

    17:50 that’s why it’s called the patella tendon and not patella ligaments even though it connects bone to bone. Because the function of it is to aid movement by increasing torque

    • @user-jf9fd8pc6n
      @user-jf9fd8pc6n 20 днів тому

      The patella tendon does not connect bone to bones....There are no tendons in human body that just connects bone to bone. Tendons are meant to move the bones when muscle contracts... So it connects muscle to bones.

    • @HlM.
      @HlM. 20 днів тому

      @@user-jf9fd8pc6n what muscle does the patella attach to?

  • @Ice-Sikill
    @Ice-Sikill Місяць тому +1

    Bro, his stuff is golden… I’m just finding out about you and loving the vids. I want to increase my vert, but my left ankle for some reason lacks the same mobility as right and I’m getting up there in age (38)… is it too late?

  • @rowan8252
    @rowan8252 Місяць тому

    I have pfp in my left knee, to the point where it hurts badly doing a light knee extension isometric, but right knee is healthy. Should I just do isometrics on the right leg for now?

  • @drillygwuapo
    @drillygwuapo Місяць тому

    when your knee pain goes away how should you start doing plyometrics again?

  • @khangbanger
    @khangbanger Місяць тому

    I am currently stuck at 31-34 inch vertical. If I fix my form to make it look like yours will I be able to get up to 40 inches within 1-2weeks? Or is that just wishful thinking?

  • @mangulugulu9026
    @mangulugulu9026 Місяць тому

    such an underrated content

  • @yathsri4816
    @yathsri4816 24 дні тому

    I can dunk at 5'6", 168cm, my standing reach is about 7'3" and my max deep squat is 295lbs, I wonder what it is about me that might make me an exception to this general rule (needing to squat a lot more as a shorter person to jump as high), since from a glance I have the same proportions as Isaiah - just scaled down (Torso : Femur : Tibia, ratios seem the same)... even when it comes down to the arm length, oversized traps and big heinie. I will measure myself in lab conditions though just to be certain 28:14.

  • @Duoliniggo
    @Duoliniggo 20 днів тому

    Can anyone explain the video and what I can do, to maybe increase my torque

  • @GETmeHOPS
    @GETmeHOPS Місяць тому

    What are the worst dunks that regularly get perfect scores in dunk contests? (Pro dunk contests not nba)

  • @saulbeiza7303
    @saulbeiza7303 Місяць тому

    So it’s effort, force, power since thoughts attracts we have created a life

  • @Cloud10again
    @Cloud10again Місяць тому

    Random musings...
    Long levers have a huge advantage for exit velocity. You travel more distance for a given joint angulation and thus have more time to produce force for a given exit velocity. Imagine throwing a baseball with a forearm twice as long; your pitch would take longer to complete, but would likely have a significantly higher speed. In jumping imagine someone with legs half as long; even if they could get their torques equivalent to Isaiah's on squat (squatting 2x as much-ish) they would still jump significantly lower due to insane RFD requirements, at least.
    I'm thinking of "interesting" comparisons...
    Jumping insects and frogs have crazy long legs...they jump many times their height but that's probably largely a cube/square thing, think house cat vs Tiger. Tiger jumps higher on absolute scale but lower on relative scale. A 12 foot tall Isaiah can jump higher than 50" but much lower relative to their own skeleton.
    Are there any comparisons out there of ground contact times vs leg length? Or jump height relative to leg length?

  • @qaz122
    @qaz122 Місяць тому

    The progress brother elite athlete, free guideance and now teaching university level biomechanics. Kids dont know what they have. Back in the day it was a pdf copy of airalert 2.0

  • @Artefficient
    @Artefficient Місяць тому

    Interesting !
    Does that mean that taller athletes (longer limbs) benefit more from bodyweight plyometrics than shorter athletes or have quicker results from that type of training?

    • @IsaiahRivera1
      @IsaiahRivera1  Місяць тому +1

      Potentially yes if all other variables are the same(fiber typing, nervous system wiring, technique, etc.)

  • @josephbibbo9181
    @josephbibbo9181 Місяць тому

    I just imagined myself getting a power level scouter like Vegita’s in Dragon Ball Z and going to the gym and reading basketball player’s power levels.
    “Power level 3400 newtons!” 😂 😂 😂

  • @a-a-rondavis9438
    @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому +1

    All of the logic applied here confirms Wilt Chamberlain jumped very high. He already could jump 44-45", and he was very strong and had great leverages and tall height. I mean Bill Russell was also a world-class athlete who had a mid 40's vertical, but no one disputes that.

    • @timothypollock8358
      @timothypollock8358 Місяць тому

      Chamberlain was super freakish and was probably the greatest 7'+ athlete in the history of sports. Schwarzenneger says that Chamberlain could pick him up like nothing and was significantly stronger than most bodybuilders in many regards. Chamberlain and Andre the Giant competed to see who could pick up Arnold the easiest and Chamberlain was the clear winner. Wilt did overhead tricep extensions with 160+ lbs. when most of the biggest BBs were only using around 120. This is incredible force when you realize how long his levers were. Cheers.

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 27 днів тому

      ​@@timothypollock8358his track and field performances were insane as well.

    • @timothypollock8358
      @timothypollock8358 27 днів тому

      @@a-a-rondavis9438 No, doubt. He was an all-around incredible specimen and athlete. Cheers.

  • @tiokaneko347
    @tiokaneko347 Місяць тому +2

    Isaiah with beard>

  • @robinsonpaulino4058
    @robinsonpaulino4058 Місяць тому +1

    dunk session video when???

  • @Harrychen-nh6ep
    @Harrychen-nh6ep Місяць тому

    May I ask how to deal with Achilles tendinopathy?

  • @CoolColJ
    @CoolColJ Місяць тому

    I'm 5'8.5" and my femur is longer than Isiah's at 18 inches :o
    my tibia is shorter than my femur, and so I have lean over a bit even in a high bar squat

  • @sprayzfn4059
    @sprayzfn4059 Місяць тому +4

    Bro must get sick of saying 50.5 lmao

    • @IsaiahRivera1
      @IsaiahRivera1  Місяць тому +1

      Facts, I need it to be 51 already lmao

  • @DavidIntraday
    @DavidIntraday Місяць тому +4

    Im curious, have you guys ever ran into an 45+ vertical athlete that was just naturally that bouncy (never touched a weight).

    • @ploops
      @ploops Місяць тому +1

      i got to like 40 just doing body weight and plyos so they prob have

    • @JohnEvans
      @JohnEvans Місяць тому

      Anthony Height! Genetic freak

    • @DavidIntraday
      @DavidIntraday Місяць тому

      @@ploops wow, do you think you could hit 50 then if you were to start lifting like isiah

    • @ploops
      @ploops Місяць тому +1

      @@DavidIntraday i just started lifting hopefully by his age i can reach 50 🙏

    • @cloudfuel9166
      @cloudfuel9166 Місяць тому +1

      @@ploops height and weight? and good shit, you got this shit.

  • @cortidavide
    @cortidavide Місяць тому

    I can't imagine what happens in the tendon of someone like Mutaz Barshim when he jumps; if he tore his patellar tendon he would probably generate an explosion

  • @mangulugulu9026
    @mangulugulu9026 Місяць тому

    does this mean that shorter people need to put into more work to get higher numbers in weight room?

    • @Muttal9348
      @Muttal9348 Місяць тому

      its more about relative strength

    • @IsaiahRivera1
      @IsaiahRivera1  Місяць тому +2

      Essentially yes, you need to have higher levels of relative strength the shorter you are

  • @elijahgutierrez4970
    @elijahgutierrez4970 Місяць тому

    My torque is the same as Isaiah so does that mean I can jump just as high as I you guys one day?

  • @friday6014
    @friday6014 Місяць тому

    Is there a useful takeaway that I missed?

    • @IsaiahRivera1
      @IsaiahRivera1  Місяць тому +2

      The shorter you are, the higher your relative strength in the weight room needs to be

  • @KuumbaOnline
    @KuumbaOnline Місяць тому

    Is Isaiah the Dom Toretto of jump torque?

  • @DocRiv
    @DocRiv Місяць тому

    Ahhhh I’m going to be a giant attacking the weight room! LETS-FRIGGIN-GOOO!!!!

  • @silasgaertner6296
    @silasgaertner6296 Місяць тому

    Still waiting for Isaiah to respond to my comments

    • @IsaiahRivera1
      @IsaiahRivera1  Місяць тому +1

      Hi

    • @silasgaertner6296
      @silasgaertner6296 24 дні тому

      Hi! I'm 5'6" 145lbs. 24" vert, big legs. But I can't figure out why I can't get higher off the ground. I have done swim team, basketball, running, cycling, weights, and other activities to strengthen my legs. Pls help, and THANK YOU!!!!

  • @KuumbaOnline
    @KuumbaOnline Місяць тому +1

    So according to this, when Isaiah jumps he merely pushes the earth down 50.5 inches 🤔🤓😂 jk

    • @IsaiahRivera1
      @IsaiahRivera1  Місяць тому

      The earth doesn't budge(technically it budges a negligible amount) since it's so massive, but since I'm puny it pushes me up 50.5 inches haha

  • @domidunks
    @domidunks Місяць тому

    Man Titans got that crazy torque 🤣

  • @judeowl
    @judeowl Місяць тому +1

    john you should grow your beard out

  • @Duoliniggo
    @Duoliniggo 20 днів тому

    Can anyone explain the video and what I can do to, maybe increase my torque

  • @Harrychen-nh6ep
    @Harrychen-nh6ep Місяць тому

    May I ask how to deal with Achilles tendinopathy?

  • @josephbibbo9181
    @josephbibbo9181 Місяць тому

    I just imagined myself getting a power level scouter like Vegita’s in Dragon Ball Z and going to the gym and reading basketball player’s power levels.
    “Power level 3400 newtons!” 😂 😂 😂