In big series like this that are deeper in the tourney, I actually think it'd be nice to pin a comment at the top to prevent inadvertent spoilers. I've learned not to look at comments, but since YT shows the top comment regardless (on mobile), sometimes I get spoiled whether I like it or not 😶
This has been a great tournament so far, and I really appreciate the quick uploads here on YT for those who can't watch the matches live. Can't wait to see how the final match turns out!
Liereyy is so good at knowing how powerful his army is at any given moment within the game. He rarely takes a bad position, seems like his army is so often forward enough to put on pressure but not over-extended. The man just takes map control until you pry it out of his cold, dead hands.
Great games by both Liereyy and Viper. Was cheering for Viper, he played really good today. Kudos to Liereyy for his brilliant performance! Thoroughly entertaining set of games. Very well organized by the whole crew and many thanks to Nili!
SPOILER. viper is not in the best shape and he still did really well against lieryy,the top 3 are equal right now vipey,hera and leireyy if all are in best shape. its nice to see how compettive the aoe seen have become
Not sure how you can say they're equal when Hera 3-0'd him with barely breaking a sweat. Liereyy dominated here as well, much more than the scoreline suggests. It was never in doubt. Those two are miles ahead at the moment.
@@Cheximus you need take all recent tournaments into account. And viper won against Hera last stier tournament. So they are the top3 right now, pretty much equals
@@Cheximus i beleive viper won more tournaments this year than both of them + he wasnt in his best shape he was sick and still performed really well but i see what you are saying hera this tournament is unstopable he is really on another level but in general if the three are in their best shape either one of them can beat the other
@@BlueBerry-ot4qb Hera has always had the skill, perhaps not necessarily thinking outside the box, but it doesn't really matter if you can play meta at 4,000 APM. His flaw was his mental strength, or rather, lack of it, on the big stage. Now he appears to have overcome that. I think he's going to dominate for a long while now.
BTW Viper is still #1, saying that from an analytical POV, not from a fanboy POV. Hera through this tourney played better than him, but the 4x1 is simply too fresh. Really rooting for Hamzah, but the Cobra still has the sauce.
Man, first two games were simply painful to watch but rest of the series was great. Last game had multiple questionable decisions but it was also incredibly tense till the very end. My favorite game was the one where liereyy was pushing with high army low eco while Viper was defending, this clash of styles always delivers.
Spoilers: Man I think Viper had that last game if he was just a bit more patient and didn't take that uphill engagement. I also think it was a bit of an early resign. Glad to see that the snek was able to show his skills though despite being sick.
Maybe next tournament you guys could add like 3 hours of blank screen at the end of videos, or make each video like 6 hours flat so that you can't guess if someone will get sweeped and that there's a possibility of a comeback, at least in your head. Isn't a problem for this vid but it was for a couple, but love the tournament so far!
Just an idea, nothing to do with the tournament, how about the devs make Atheism better by changing it to "Military units can no longer be converted" rather than the stupid and rather useless no relic victory thing? They can become a decent counter against strong monk civs.
Vipey threw with soooo many bad fights :( Last game he had such a good army and wasted it uphill against the paladin, i feel like if he tried to expand and hold off he could have had that, and been a huge favourite going into game 9 with Northern Isles. So saddd
This will be an unpopular opinion but I understand why pro's don't necessarily use the castle unit which was counterintuitive for me at the start because it seems to me like they almost represent the civ to some degree, I am in favor of buffing all unique castle units and unique units in general a little but across the board to see them get more play, the castle unit should be like the superpower, like the Mongols Magundai for example, it's their identity, like Spanish with Conqs, Turks and Jannisarry, what happened to them? they got nerfed... why? because they outrange normal units in castle age....this was a perfect opportunity to buff all unique units a little, allow more counter play and emphasis with castle units What AOE is lacking is big flashy fancy moments, I watched a LOT of LoL and played a lot too, they had their big epic highlight moments in tournaments, where as AOE often times can be boring, yeah the micro is cool and there are moments, mango hits and kills 5 arbs or something meaningful, breaking in a wall and killed a few vills early, but we should have more epic battle moments, and I think this should be something that will take time to do correctly and require balancing to some degree of course, but it will make things more epic and fun and suspenseful, imagine if every civ had their Mongols Magundai unit? how much cooler and more fun and epic would those battles be? good that the Turks outranged the others too hard, let the other civs have buffed castle units and let's see this all play out, that sounds fun and exciting to me, mega hype cmon
And if your asking why Hera and Liereyy weren’t “???”, it’s because they were the top 2 from the qualifying rounds, so they were automatically in the semifinals without playing any playoff matches.
great tourney, good job on casting, production, set up.. all good and Spoiler alert . . . poor preparation by viper, bad drafting in his series is what made him lose now and during NAC4
Viper bringing it back to 2-2 after quite one-sided first two games was a masterclass in AoE, in my opinion.. but then Liereyy winning after 3-3, when he had arguably the worse civs, was its own peak performance! GGWP both!!
Once again Nili, when your colleagues or worse yet, in-every-way superiors, say something about this game that you don't agree with, try not to mock? It's embarrassing. I thought one time was enough for you to learn that lesson.
@@AnthonyAvon thanks for the timestamp, but man, I get where you're coming from but that is realy a far cry from mocking. Yes, Nili has a certain style, but this is just banter. T90 literally tells him to go practice bbc micro seconds later, refering to when T90 beat Nili few hours before. They're poking fun at one another.
This has been a brilliant tournament, but the title is quite ironic given that the casting was so heavily biased towards The Viper I wondered who his opponent even was at times. It was bad against Villese but this was just down-right laughable. I usually watch Memb but wanted a change of scenery and to support the host, but it was really bad.
@@NiliAoE2 0:00 - 3:45:17 I understand it was a great comeback story and he's your teammate/friend but we barely had any pov of Liereyy. It was either Viper attacking or Viper defending, never from Liereyys's perspective.
@@Cheximus Yes, I watched the whole thing. I didn’t think the casters were overly biased toward either player. If you saw more of Viper than Liereyy, it’s because Liereyy was the aggressor most of the time, so you mostly saw Viper’s base, since nothing was happening at Liereyy’s base.
AWESOME SPOILER, THANKS! I wanted to slowly catch up with the full event over a couple of weeks and watch it TTL style. However your genius spoiler has now shown me already two of the semi finalists, brilliant! Guess I'll have to permanently block your channel suggestions, to avoid being spoiled the other two by another incredibly avoidable spoiler title. So tired of spoilers in this stupid community.... Not every fan can watch 70 hours of aoe 2 in a week
@@NiliAoE2 Great, that's 3 business days. So 3*5 = 15 hour odess in the evening for those who have a full-time job. Barely time to catch up a few games. Besides, what's the point of showing it so soon after the event? You know it's peak YT algorithm time in the days after the event and the videos get suggested everywhere. Just name it semifinal one and two and remove the stupid pictures like t90 does
Thank you thank you thank you for not spoiling. Just finished the quarterfinals and now onto the semis. It's so appreciated, it really is.
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In big series like this that are deeper in the tourney, I actually think it'd be nice to pin a comment at the top to prevent inadvertent spoilers.
I've learned not to look at comments, but since YT shows the top comment regardless (on mobile), sometimes I get spoiled whether I like it or not 😶
@@AoLIronmaiden mobile YT ignores pinned comments and shows highest rated non-pinned comment
@@Progeusz ooo I think you're right!
@Progeusz van het aantal uren per
T90: Dont know how he does that so fast
Nilli: Well he's good at the game
Nilli next game after quick wall: How does he do that?
hahaha so funny!
This has been a great tournament so far, and I really appreciate the quick uploads here on YT for those who can't watch the matches live. Can't wait to see how the final match turns out!
Our pleasure!
@@NiliAoE2 Best games of NAC4 compilation videos - Nili's "free" content for the next month.
God bless this NAC 4 tourney.
SO entertaining.
There should be epilepsy warning before Liereyy POV. It was crazy.
haha
can u give timestamp please
Liereyy is so good at knowing how powerful his army is at any given moment within the game. He rarely takes a bad position, seems like his army is so often forward enough to put on pressure but not over-extended. The man just takes map control until you pry it out of his cold, dead hands.
Not gonna read the comments…just gonna say that this vid length gets me HYPEEEEEE. Lets go vipeeeee
Great games by both Liereyy and Viper. Was cheering for Viper, he played really good today. Kudos to Liereyy for his brilliant performance! Thoroughly entertaining set of games. Very well organized by the whole crew and many thanks to Nili!
The Killers ref at 2:43:50 love it nili!
at least one got it
A killer reference, so to say
SPOILER.
viper is not in the best shape and he still did really well against lieryy,the top 3 are equal right now vipey,hera and leireyy if all are in best shape.
its nice to see how compettive the aoe seen have become
Not sure how you can say they're equal when Hera 3-0'd him with barely breaking a sweat. Liereyy dominated here as well, much more than the scoreline suggests. It was never in doubt. Those two are miles ahead at the moment.
@@Cheximus you need take all recent tournaments into account. And viper won against Hera last stier tournament. So they are the top3 right now, pretty much equals
@@Cheximus cant agree more. if it was Hera vs Viper in the semi final, I would bet hera could do the same to viper as he did to yo.
@@Cheximus i beleive viper won more tournaments this year than both of them + he wasnt in his best shape he was sick and still performed really well
but i see what you are saying hera this tournament is unstopable he is really on another level but in general if the three are in their best shape either one of them can beat the other
@@BlueBerry-ot4qb Hera has always had the skill, perhaps not necessarily thinking outside the box, but it doesn't really matter if you can play meta at 4,000 APM. His flaw was his mental strength, or rather, lack of it, on the big stage. Now he appears to have overcome that. I think he's going to dominate for a long while now.
Such an incredible matchup and Viper did so well given his injury. GGWP
I enjoyed and watched all of NAC4. The gameplay was spot on, but the success comes from the excellent casting and production!
BTW Viper is still #1, saying that from an analytical POV, not from a fanboy POV. Hera through this tourney played better than him, but the 4x1 is simply too fresh. Really rooting for Hamzah, but the Cobra still has the sauce.
"saying that from an analytical POV, not from a fanboy POV"
@@NiliAoE2 well, I mean, I'm trying to be objective here, rational as they say, not emotional in the judgment
Great games, what a series and Tournament. Cant wait for the final later
Man, first two games were simply painful to watch but rest of the series was great. Last game had multiple questionable decisions but it was also incredibly tense till the very end. My favorite game was the one where liereyy was pushing with high army low eco while Viper was defending, this clash of styles always delivers.
Spoilers:
Man I think Viper had that last game if he was just a bit more patient and didn't take that uphill engagement. I also think it was a bit of an early resign. Glad to see that the snek was able to show his skills though despite being sick.
What a tight series, awesome!
2:11:13 look at lireys eyes
Thankyou for posting all the games on UA-cam:) will you post the co op showmatch alsoo..
should be up within the next days
What’s up with liereyy thumb placement? Does it have a name? Why does he do that? 19:18
time stamp wrong
Great video, wish we could have seen the draft though
bad for viewer retention, but you can still find it on twitch :-)
Maybe next tournament you guys could add like 3 hours of blank screen at the end of videos, or make each video like 6 hours flat so that you can't guess if someone will get sweeped and that there's a possibility of a comeback, at least in your head. Isn't a problem for this vid but it was for a couple, but love the tournament so far!
ua-cam.com/video/o3V9A1HisQM/v-deo.html
I know the Dravidian is designed in a way that doesn't meant to play normally but man it really needs to have some changes.
I think they are fine, they are just picked too early
@@NiliAoE2 Anyway enjoy the whole series. Good works and thank you for all the hard work behind.
Just an idea, nothing to do with the tournament, how about the devs make Atheism better by changing it to "Military units can no longer be converted" rather than the stupid and rather useless no relic victory thing? They can become a decent counter against strong monk civs.
don't think lots of people are playing monks vs huns in imp
Vipey threw with soooo many bad fights :(
Last game he had such a good army and wasted it uphill against the paladin, i feel like if he tried to expand and hold off he could have had that, and been a huge favourite going into game 9 with Northern Isles. So saddd
This will be an unpopular opinion but I understand why pro's don't necessarily use the castle unit which was counterintuitive for me at the start because it seems to me like they almost represent the civ to some degree, I am in favor of buffing all unique castle units and unique units in general a little but across the board to see them get more play, the castle unit should be like the superpower, like the Mongols Magundai for example, it's their identity, like Spanish with Conqs, Turks and Jannisarry, what happened to them? they got nerfed... why? because they outrange normal units in castle age....this was a perfect opportunity to buff all unique units a little, allow more counter play and emphasis with castle units
What AOE is lacking is big flashy fancy moments, I watched a LOT of LoL and played a lot too, they had their big epic highlight moments in tournaments, where as AOE often times can be boring, yeah the micro is cool and there are moments, mango hits and kills 5 arbs or something meaningful, breaking in a wall and killed a few vills early, but we should have more epic battle moments, and I think this should be something that will take time to do correctly and require balancing to some degree of course, but it will make things more epic and fun and suspenseful, imagine if every civ had their Mongols Magundai unit?
how much cooler and more fun and epic would those battles be?
good that the Turks outranged the others too hard, let the other civs have buffed castle units and let's see this all play out, that sounds fun and exciting to me, mega hype cmon
turks just dominated castle age too hard on arena type maps
but yeah I think making UUs better in castle age would be nice for the game
Why put "???" instead of "TheViper" in the title?
It’s avoiding spoilers for those that haven’t seen the quarter finals yet.
@@vinnuaniyan5196 How come there was no ??? for the other players and only Viper?
@@crusify_me there was, the other semifinal also had Hera vs ???
And if your asking why Hera and Liereyy weren’t “???”, it’s because they were the top 2 from the qualifying rounds, so they were automatically in the semifinals without playing any playoff matches.
*pats myself on the back*
There should be a fun game-mode: Walled in units get executed.
I'm 36 min in.
Strat: pick 2 shit civs in a row, throw twice, take it to game 9 where more people invest in the prize pool.
Game theory, win for all.
great tourney, good job on casting, production, set up.. all good
and Spoiler alert
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poor preparation by viper, bad drafting in his series is what made him lose now and during NAC4
Lets go!
Glad "Vippey" Lost. Was rooting for Lierry all the way.
Viper bringing it back to 2-2 after quite one-sided first two games was a masterclass in AoE, in my opinion.. but then Liereyy winning after 3-3, when he had arguably the worse civs, was its own peak performance! GGWP both!!
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Once again Nili, when your colleagues or worse yet, in-every-way superiors, say something about this game that you don't agree with, try not to mock? It's embarrassing. I thought one time was enough for you to learn that lesson.
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cringe comment
Can you add a timestamp? Since people seem to have missed what situation you mean
@@csetircro 2:41:27
@@AnthonyAvon thanks for the timestamp, but man, I get where you're coming from but that is realy a far cry from mocking. Yes, Nili has a certain style, but this is just banter. T90 literally tells him to go practice bbc micro seconds later, refering to when T90 beat Nili few hours before. They're poking fun at one another.
I think the era of viper is over if the tournys dont go back to standard 3 vil start
the era of viper has been over for a few years already sadly
Didn't he win Warlords? With 9 vills start, 4 months ago?
Has nothing to do with his wrist or very recent hospital visit, no couldn't be. He can play any start as well as anyone else
@@ChewingGumFlavor Yes, and Red Bull Wololo V not long before that too
@@ChewingGumFlavor i mean i miss watching hin on standard setup like. Now its heading more to hera and liery playstyle i belive . Just my opinion
viper basically became the new Daut, which is ironic since he used to make fun of Daut falling from top 1 place.
I just wanted to say that he is becoming like daut slowly . Feels like he doesnt care that much anymore
That’s a clown take when he’s won 2 of the last 4 S-tier events.
Literally won titans league and warlords this year
lmao dude still won more S tier than everyone else. Loses once and suddenly he's washed? Literal meme take.
He won 2 recent s tier! How is he Daut?
This has been a brilliant tournament, but the title is quite ironic given that the casting was so heavily biased towards The Viper I wondered who his opponent even was at times. It was bad against Villese but this was just down-right laughable. I usually watch Memb but wanted a change of scenery and to support the host, but it was really bad.
oh, certainly something to look out for. got some time stamps I can look into?
@@NiliAoE2 0:00 - 3:45:17
I understand it was a great comeback story and he's your teammate/friend but we barely had any pov of Liereyy. It was either Viper attacking or Viper defending, never from Liereyys's perspective.
lol you can’t be serious. If you’re going to say something negative about somebody, try providing at least one actual time stamp as proof.
@@mbvglider are you serious? Did you watch the whole set? I can't believe anyone who watched it could think otherwise.
@@Cheximus Yes, I watched the whole thing. I didn’t think the casters were overly biased toward either player. If you saw more of Viper than Liereyy, it’s because Liereyy was the aggressor most of the time, so you mostly saw Viper’s base, since nothing was happening at Liereyy’s base.
I dont like Liereyy no honor
Why?
AWESOME SPOILER, THANKS! I wanted to slowly catch up with the full event over a couple of weeks and watch it TTL style. However your genius spoiler has now shown me already two of the semi finalists, brilliant!
Guess I'll have to permanently block your channel suggestions, to avoid being spoiled the other two by another incredibly avoidable spoiler title.
So tired of spoilers in this stupid community.... Not every fan can watch 70 hours of aoe 2 in a week
we kept it spoiler free for 72h
@@NiliAoE2 Great, that's 3 business days. So 3*5 = 15 hour odess in the evening for those who have a full-time job. Barely time to catch up a few games.
Besides, what's the point of showing it so soon after the event? You know it's peak YT algorithm time in the days after the event and the videos get suggested everywhere.
Just name it semifinal one and two and remove the stupid pictures like t90 does
I understand your frustration. we will consider making it spoiler-free for a longer period in the future