I went to a pastor's conference in 1986. The keynote speak for this 3 day event, was a guy by the name of David Wilkerson. Where this man gazed you could feel like a magnification of the manifest presence of GOD. When he finished, there were about 500 pastors on the floor in front of the platform. They were not slain. They were there voluntarily. They were weeping and repenting. No hocus pocus. Just preaching against sin with great anointing. You just never forget something like that. :)
If the church had just 10 David Wilkersons worldwide? It would not be in such a filthy whore state it is in. That man was called by Yahweh God to preach pure beautiful Gospel of Christ.
There's a you tube video with David Wilkerson on Weird manifestations. He was preaching against it. He was so hurt by people doing these things. He said they were making the Holy Spirit look like a fool.
@@KENBORDEN1 I’ll try to find the video. I remember hearing a pastor tell stories about things that happened in the church like a man being picked up and thrown from his seat, or the pianist deciding to jump up and shout the piano kept playing. I didn’t witness these things. Just heard the stories and we were told it was the Holy Spirit. I believed those stories in my 20s but now know that it was demons. I think we were also being groomed to expect weird things/manifestations. There was very little preaching going on during these times. Mostly just anticipation of what the “Holy Ghost” was going to do. Everyone just anticipated the alter service. Not an alter call for repentance. That’s when things happened. What is your take on alter calls? I had one pastor who refused to give an alter call for repentance. One Christmas I did a powerful Christmas play and the end was a great time to call people to repentance. I had asked the pastor ahead of time to NOT call EVERYONE to come up front like he always did but to give an alter call for repentance only. The convicting power was there. I think people may have gotten saved. But he called the whole congregation up front which then the conviction left the building. I never went back after that. He didn’t want the convicting spirit in the room because he was living in sin and he couldn’t handle it I later found out. So sad. He never once that I can remember preached on sin. He was Cog but preached WOF which I had no idea what that was. He brainwashed the congregation by preaching the same sermons over and over and over every week until we accepted it as truth.
And I loved David Wilkerson...read all the books to my sons when they were boys. I still come across his messages and am thankful he was a solid man of God!
I’m a 37 year old black woman sitting here gleaning SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE AND SOUND DOCTRINE from 2 Middle Aged White people. Talk about the ways of GOD🙌🏾💜
This reminds me of my own experience in the charismatic movement. I went to this Holy Spirit event may be 6 or 7 years ago. I remember there was a Saturday night service to get filled with the Holy Spirit! I was with my friends and our seminary professors were the ones laying their hands on us and praying for us to get filled. So we were all eager to get prayed for. But I remember that two of my profs were praying for my friend who was standing next to me. she was jerking and making some noise and crying! And my profs were saying “more Holy Spirit more!” and I was watching what was happening to her and waiting for them to lay their hands on me. Well, they passed over me and went to other people and prayed for them! Well, that was the worst night of my life! I felt like the Holy Spirit ignored me! I cried the whole night asking God why my profs didn't pray for me and why He didn't touch me that night! I thought God was withholding His Holy Spirit from me! I was emotionally and spiritually immature! I didn't have a solid understanding of the word of God. I was so deceived and vulnerable! Now I thank God that my profs didn't pray for me that night😀I don't know what kind of spirit I would have trafficked!
@@jeffmcelroy5364 Thank God for His protection! But I was genuinely seeking the Holy Spirit, not a demonic, Kundalini spirit! I never even heard of that spirit until recently. When I saw people fall backward, laugh hysterically, jump up and down, etc... I used to think they were touched by the Holy Spirit because you are conditioned to believe that in the charismatic movement! But now I know better! 😀
God was protecting you. Psalm 119:11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee. 92 Unless thy law had been my delights, I should then have perished in mine affliction. 93 I will never forget thy precepts: for with them thou hast quickened me. 94 I am thine, save me: for I have sought thy precepts.
oh, wow! How could this happen? Why do people question anything that happens? I am one fruit from the Revival. Born and Raised in Italy, got saved at the age of 20, left everything to be a missionary. I started to watch videotapes of the revival while I was a missionary in Italy, in a tent ministry. I would be touched by the power of God, and few years later I got to visit the Pensacola Revival. Every night we were in church, EVERY NIGHT, for a month, i went to church, and 6-8 hours in the presence of God were like 5 minutes. Think, for a month..... Imagine the 4 years those people had spent in that building singing for 2 hours, preaching and teaching, and praying for hours. People did not want to leave the building..... Outside, people would be waiting for a long time in line to enter the building.....I finally became a student of the School of ministry that was there. And besides the night services, we had school everyday..... no man can do this without the power of God. There was a sincere move of the Spirit, preaching on repentance, real men of God, dedicated, Bible lovers, and Presence seekers. Rrother, whoever you are, you have zero discernment... sorry, I must be blunt.... God has surely changed me, and many many people I know through that revival.
My husband and I went there from Louisiana in about 2003-2004. It was such a great disappointment to myself and my husband. We attended 3 services there and it was nothing like what was being touted on the news everyday! Four of our friends attended at another time and they were very disappointed, too. We saw nothing like the videos you presented and there were few people there.
@@nelllynd4914 Was Steve Hill, Lindell Cooley and Pastor Kilpatrick preaching, or was it someone else??? Perhaps they had a substitute preaching, so the same anointing wasn't there?
@@nelllynd4914 I am sorry, the revival started in 1995, and it started to cool down in 2000-2001... Revivals don't last too long. 1 year, max 3 years. But this was about 5 years. They all say: "In 5 years, 4.5 million people visited the revival"... 2003-04 was not during the revival.
Jesus has already given me His forgiveness of all of my sins, the free gift of eternal life and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, without which it would be impossible to live a Christian life. I can only speak for myself, but I love living every moment of every day. I'm happy and at peace. And that's on top of what the Lord has given me. I would be appalled at the idea of approaching His throne to demand even more!
The late Pastor Dick Woodward tells how his Godly mother taught her many children that if Jesus isn't everything then Jesus isn't anything! He also taught the Four Spiritual Secrets.
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC That doesn't line up with Stephen's or Paul's experience! Jesus is in heaven, at the Father's right hand making intercession for you! If He's in your heart, which is desperately wicked, you're in deep doo doo!
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC I find myself in complete agreement with Deborah Szafraniec, whose comment you've likely already read. Your statement is wholly unbiblical.
I don’t think it was orchestrated like a hoax would be. Instead these experiences were what was being sought, because that is what is thought to be revival. Having grown up in the AOG, we all sought more of Jesus. Revival meant more emotional experiences not a return to Biblical truth and the Gospel. Notice the use of the repetitive music as well.
if the people were going to jump and Hollar and swing from the chandeliers...She looked at me like I was crazy. So, I guess different Churches look at revivals in different ways.......
The music is to put people in a trance. Satan knows the Bible too and in the New Testament we are warned over and over again about lying signs and wonders. Look at what Paul says in 1 Crrinthians 14 verses 22 to 39 and Matthew 7 verses 22 and 23. Last but not least 1 Peter 4 verses 17 & 18 where it says God is co ming in judgment to His house first and then the world. Take a look at a video by JEREMIAH COHEN titled THE MOCKING SPIRIT INVADING THE CHURCH. I recall on another video a certain Pastor Scotland in Canada singing with sunglasses on and a black stetson. I shot the sherrifff but did not shoot the deputy. He then turns to gesture at a closed Bible and says You want me to me from that old thing I suppose. He called the Bible old thing and when heopens it he crows like a chicken for 20 seconds and then shuts it. Was that under the anointing? Think not.
Red Rock mama, yes I would agree with you on that I don't think this was a hoax I believe that this was genuine. And the reason why I'm saying that is because I experienced the same thing at my other Church in Chicago which was about 40 years ago. A man by the name of Rodney Howard Brown came to our church and for the next four to five weeks strange supernatural things were happening around the church people crying people laughing people experiencing the power the presence of the holy Spirit. People were literally freezing in place like statues. It was a crazy time to remember. At first I was very skeptical about all of this but then when Rodney Howard Brown came down the aisle I was sitting in the very back of the church. And what he started to head towards me I got out of my seat and I stood in the aisle in front of him. He said brother be filled with the presence and the power of God. When he put his hand on my head my body became limp like a rag doll and the power just went through me like a surge of electricity I became powerless like somebody turned me off like a TV set. I felt Joy unspeakable joy and the laughter started rolling from my lips. It was like being touched from heaven. It was a wonderful experience. But then I was hearing that the same kind of thing that was happening in other countries but in other Eastern religions they called it the snake the kondolini spirit or the fake holy Spirit or something impersonating the holy Spirit. I thought I would just share that with you. Because we have to be careful with our physical and emotional state that we don't become deceived by the spirit but that we first put our trust and faith in the word of God the Bible and nothing else.
I confess that I did take a trip to Pensacola and went to a Brownsville service. At that time I was bummed!! I was not one of those that "fell out, jerked, rolled, laughed, " whateverrrrrrrrrr! I was saved in a Pentecostal church and I always wondered what was wrong with me cuz I never was able to "catch" any thing. I did do the gibberish speak in tongues but that was pretty much easily mimicked and I never felt that power from on high either, you know the one that I'm talking about, I didn't feel "super natural " and I always did question my salvation, like, what's wrong with me? Praise the Lord the TRUTH has set me FREE!!
I have thought the same thing. Didn’t speak in tongues like everyone did. Found out after I left, they if I’d just talked to my friend, he didn’t either...makes me so sad to this day...always, even now, wonder what’s wrong with me, and the Word speaks to. Me Daily! Thankful for Jesus and the work HE did for me.
when you're saved you know it. There's no doubt. Tongues are not an indicator of your worth, although they are real. Don't let Satan deceive you and pull you away from God. The "Christians are hypocrites" insult is old and used often by so many to make an excuse for themselves on why they won't give their lives to Christ.
Back in the early1980s a friend of mine was going to a Charismatic church. He was very close to the pastor there. He asked me to attend one Sunday meeting because the pastor was going to try to pull something over the congregation. He told me the pastor was going to make vague references to "something more". He also told me someone in the congregation was going to give a message in tongues and the interpretation would be more vague references to this something more. Well, I went and all that he told me took place. It turned out that the something more was Mormonism. The preacher had become convinced that the Book of Mormon was a true revelation and was going to introduce it to that church bit by bit. Not too long after that the church fell apart. It disbanded and the preacher moved to another state. It just goes to show you that this kind of stuff has been out there for quite a while and there are all kinds of weirdness that Charismatics can come up with.
I hadn’t ever thought about how fake tongues and interpretations could be used to groom a congregation! That makes so much sense! I have heard of preachers being caught practicing their sermons even the speaking in tongues.
The Mormon's from the beginning have documented pretty much everything which is proving to be a problem for them. Joseph Smith said in one of these documents that he was in a Mormon meeting where somebody did speak in tongues. From what I remember reading about it the interpetation was confirming Mormon doctorine.
@@melaniesirignano9408 he was a tongue talker, he led a Charismatic church. He just became convinced that the Book of Mormon was divinely inspired over time. I heard from another preacher that he was pastoring a church in Virginia some years after this. He didn't know about what had happened until I told him.
Instead of thanking God for Christ's life, sacrifice on the cross, and resurrection, breathtaking in itself, people want MORE. What more is there? If it's more goosebumps, thrills and spills, that discontent gets everyone into striving for an emotional experience, and that's basically a form of works.
Funny I think it is hyper grace not hyper law. They expect God to sanctify them through a “more” experience. Instead of seeking to sanctify their flesh with Gods help, they lean on the justification experience as if since God was and is fully responsible for that, he is fully responsible for sanctification, through no effort of our own. They like the gift but forsake the cross of discipleship for more gifts.
I was involved in Hinduism via yoga before I became a Christian. Then I was born again by the spirit of God. When this stuff hit the Messianic charismatic church I started out in, I recognized it as the same stuff I had seen in the New Age circles, and was led to refuse it and left, praise the Lord. Stay in the bible, the King James Bible.
Praise the LORD. You did not realize that when the LORD allowed you to be involved in that stuff, all the while HE was educating you for future discernment. Thanks for the great testimony.
The devil always has a counterfeit for the real thing. I am sure Hinduism and many false religions have prayer, fasting, self denial, etc Does that make these things umbilical just because they exist in false religion? Please grow up!
At 20 minutes he said that he fell down by the power of God, just because you fell down doesn’t mean that it was from GOD 🤦🏻♀️ I cannot stand when they say more Lord, more Lord, more Lord, it’s always in threes just like mantras, and every time I hear more Lord, it reminds me of Heidi Baker when she was touching that poor kid and he was going into convulsions screaming on the top of his lungs and she says “I think he’s got it” yeah he got it, he now has demons that you just put in him by touching him Thanks for the video Daniel and Robin
Its ingenious that they have scared people so much that they won't dare call out false prophets, confront sin or criticize a sinful leader that fails the qualifications of a leader/elder bishop and so forth. Therefore they can say and do whatever they like, teach false doctrine, be involved in sexual sin/porn adultery divorce, cold hard hearts, pride, arrogant, lying, deceiving, financial dishonesty, fraud, greed and what have you; and everybody thinks if you confront it, notice it, call it out or have them step down because they are not qualified according to scripture then you are blaspheming. Speaking of all those modern day false prophets Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves
@@jennamarielovesjesus12actually I think 🤔 it’s sad when religious critics like yourself reject the Holy Spirit and criticize the servants of the Lord.
I was there. Hindsight is 20/20. I experienced firsthand everything you highlighted. I even saw the fall-out and falling away from this fiasco. Your presentation really helped by bringing fresh insights with what I already new. Good job here! 👍
I was there so many times. I did hear the gospel and the word taught on many occasions. They always told people to repent and not live in sin. I did get some good things from it. Was this your experience at all? I was new Christian at the time so was not able to discern the errors. I'm not defending them. But I have to be fair in what went on down there via my experience. I would never send anyone who didn't know the word into this environment. The word I context is so crucial to truth. Please write back.
Sorry, just saw this now. There was more gospel presented then than now. I too was a new Christian, so I was easily deceived due to the excitement added to some truth I was gaining I am AG church. In hindsight, all that we see today in the newer church movements are extensions of what was happening then.
My Grandma felt the power of God, and I know she knew He was real. We are to worship God and make a joyful noise unto the Lord. We can't put God in a box and say how He will move on people. Yes, there is wildfire out there, but the power of God is real. God will separate the wheat from the tares. No, she did not bark like a dog, but she danced before the Lord. That was beautiful. I love you two and you remind me of some dried up Baptists.
Brownsville change my life and many of my coworkers. I lived in Minnesota at the time. Still on fire for the lord. I never felt the manifest presence of the Lord till I came to Brownsville. It doesn’t sound like you 2 went there. I remember going to work (Northwest Airlines) and praying for my coworkers in the directors office and one man was slanded in the spirit. We he got up he told us all he could see was Jesus. And that he was getting ready to commit suicide and the Lord took it away. That’s my testimony. I’m still just a plain mechanic
Just wondering how he knew it was Jesus we dont know what he looks like, also we r told try the spirits and make sure there of God, you just assumed because he was suicidal and he said he saw Jesus it was from the Lord, counselors have stopped people from committing suicide as well so that doesnt prove it was God you also said he was "slain" fell down if you notice in scripture when people encountered the Lord in worship they never fell backwards, they bowed down and worshipped but when the pharisees came to arrest Jesus they fell backwards!....I will say God is merciful sometimes when we dont know better, and gives us time to come out from false teaching I had been involved in these manifestations many years ago and at tent revivals churches etc...I even remember one time they laid hands on me and I feel backwards and the ushers forgot to catch me and I hit my head on the concrete floor because we were in a building and there was no carpet and my head crashed to the floor...at the time I thought this was the LORD, I'm older now and The Lord has shown me thru scripture my folly I repented, the Lord is patient with us...I had never read the scripture let no man lay hands on you suddenly, the pastors and evangelists I knew at the time always laid hands and invited speakers to lay hands on the congregation so who knows what demons were manifesting or was being transferred we didnt know these people at all we just " trusted the pastor" instead of trusting the scripture our Safety Net... It caused damage to my family over the years that God has healed but we paid a dear price for not being good Bereans , you will always be looking for some type of feeling or emotion instead of trusting the bible it's a very dangerous road to continue to travel down.
Yes sir Jesus Christ is alive and he was most certainly working at Brownsville...I'm sure Mr and Mrs miserable over there didn't go or else they wouldn't have permafrowns on their faces...cause when I went I had the exact same experience you had the power of God smacked me around like a red headed step child..the fire of God is real whether these nay Sayers believe it or not
I'm so thankful for LongforTruth Ministry. It has helped clear up a lot of confusion I had concerning God and His Gospel, having being born-again in the Charismatic movement. Now I enjoy a peaceful and fulfilling walk with Christ that is devoid of the confusion, disorientation, fluster and turbulence that is the inevitable outcome of the Charismatic heresy.
Went to a small Church of God once about a month after being baptized. The pastor walked around as he was speaking and a couple of times placed his hand on the head of members of the church and said something "in tongues". Then he did the same to me but spoke English. I had previously prayed silently that if this was really the Holy Spirit at work that He would fill me as well, but if not that He would protect me from whatever was going on. About later everyone there - about 25 of us - was "speaking in tongues" except for me, and no one was interpreting anything. Praise the LORD for His protection and grace!
This new anointing isn't from God is a Kundalini spirit manifest as a counterfeit I've seen this with Muslims Hindus shakings laughing ancontrolable these people being like drunk it's seems like what's happening in wof Charismatic churches they put this on you by laying hands on you they pray it into your soul it's not from god I hear on fire tunnels I've seen these young girls trying to testify shaking a lot it doesn't look good for sure it doesn't look Pentecostal I'm a oneness believer we don't have that in our churches it's definitely strange fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 for sure becareful who you allow pray over you
Better read you're bible if tongues is not God why couldn't I do it sitting a barstool before I got saved really I find all these negative comments appalling must be baptist lol we will all face judgement thank God mine at least won't be for deception and that's a fact
@@keittkatranch5167 well when I was filled with the holy Ghost in a very biblical grounded church I felt the wind it was an amazing experience and I know it wasn't the devil don't care what anybody with they're form of godliness but denying the power there of has to say about it this is some of the most judgemental garbage I've ever seen maybe somebody needs to expose longing for truth the people are whacked is what they are probably Biden supporters 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for the great video Dan and Robin. As I sat and watched this video with my wife I couldn't help but recall the many years I spent as a Pentecostal preacher lying prostrate on the pulpit platform sucking carpet dust begging God for MORE! I was born to Pentecostal parents who were both evangelist and preachers being ordained by A. A Allen. My parents were steeped into the Pentecostal Holiness Movement and groomed me to be the next A.A Allen. They thought I was a "Holy" prodigy and projected their broken dreams of being worldwide healing ministers onto me when their ministry failed. After many years of ministering in the pentecostal and charismatic circles, I began to see a pattern in my life... depression, suicidal tendencies and overwhelming disillusionment. All that my parents had taught me to believe that I was, I realized I wasn't. God in His great mercy delivered me from the lies that I was brain washed to believe about myself AND Him. I now have tasted the living water Jesus promised. Keep up the good work exposing the cults of today. I am living proof that what you are doing makes a difference. Happy Father's Day, bro.
@@ritadyer3770 Yea, my mother's father was actually a pioneer in the Pentecostal movement in our area. He started several (small) churches. He was no man of God though. He molested his own children and some of his grandchildren. He trained all his children to play instruments so that they could play the music for his ministry. He brain washed them like my mother did me. After doing some research of my own, seems that my grandfathers people had come out of the mormon church. I imagine, Perry Stone COG's darlin, was more than likely groomed too..just my thought.
@@marknmeltruesdale7388 Me too brother, as was my mother. The one thing that scared me was DRUNKARDS are on the list in 1cor of those that will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
@@de629 Yea, the tyranny of the law that Pentecostalism imposed on my life accentuated the weight of condemnation so powerfully that drunkenness was the only way I could forget that I was on my way to hell. I was alcoholic at the age of 15.
I will say this I went to Brownsville in 96 I believe. I went bound by pornography even though I went to other evangelical churches only to leave the same way I came !!! LOL!!! I walked into Brownsville expecting to be changed. Man was I ever, I went up for prayer and someone laid hands on me and said freedom belongs to you IN JESUS NAME!!! To this day I have had no issues with porn since ,nor do I have any mental images. COMPLETELY SET FREE BY THE POWER OF PRAYER IN JESUS MAME. TO THIS VERY DAY. I PERSONALLY KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO WENT TO POWERLESS CHURCHES AND LEFT BOUND , BUT THESE SAME PEOPLE WENT TO BROWNSVILLE AND ARE STILL FREE TODAY LOVING JESUS AND SHARING THEIR TESTIMONIES. GO FIGURE!!!! LOL. Please be careful in judging another ministry I KNOW THAT I AM FREE AND HAVE BEEN SINCE THAT DAY. NO REOCCURRING ISSUES NO BACKSLIDING JUST LOVING JESUS AND TELLING PEOPLE ;YOU CAN REALLY BE FREE!!!! FREE AT LAST THANKS BE TO GOD!!!’
Thank you for commenting. Praise Jesus for your miracle. I never went to this revival but I believe in the gifts of the spirit. I am cautious about judging things like this bc I know God can move and can fill people with the Holy Ghost.
And many went for miracle healing and left sick and dying. Lies were told about crime reducing and many similar false testimonies. Worst of all, the church ended with 10 million in debt and Kilpatrick claimed he didn't know about the debt. He quit the church in a Sunday service. The congregation has never yet recovered from the damage this wolf caused. God delivered you, not a "powerful" church. Balaam gave one of the greatest Messianic prophecies and is know as a great false prophet in the Bible because he was chasing money. Kilpatrick, Hill, and Brown were all chasing money and fame.
@@jennifersmith6696 we have the holy spirit at belief Being filled with spirit was around FIRST PENTECOST/SHAVOT acts was TRANSITIONAL From Peter to Paul After Paul..this filling wasn't normative. (Although it could happen) I was healed from depression at a ladies prayer group Which she was a prophetess WITH WOMEN My mom asked her, if I'd marry She said yes, and described him We've been married 34 years But notice..it was a WOMANS group no MEN were there
it is a choice to just not look at it...after a while..,you dont want it because you want to live for Christ. Every human gets tempted with various temptations. God's Word says 1 Cor 10:13 here hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it
My family attended the faith assembly of God. The Pastor wanted to make the trip to Brownville Assembly of God to bring back that "anointing" for our church. So my son went with the Pastor, deacons, and other church members. My son came back from there and became deeply depressed. He finally told me many years after that, he thought that he was not saved because he did fall over jerk, or shake, like everyone else did. I was on the worship team at the church, the pastor's wife who was playing the piano said to me, just start to jump around. After that our church was full on Purpose Driven church! The pastor went on to become Dristrict Superentendent of the Assemblies of God. Thank you so much for this video, you guys are helping a lot of people wounded by this so called "move' of God.
You are not going to believe this, but after watching this video I was telling a family member about a pastor who went down to Brownsville and wanted to bring "that spirit" back to his church. I then read your comment. It is the ironically the same pastor. I will tell you this, we knew he wanted that position you mentioned in the A/G 35 years ago. He always went along with what the current fad was or whatever was popular. He knows how to "play the game".
I wasn’t with the same, but hasn’t spoken in tongues, and after 3 years, the last of which was being shunned by particular lady housemates, I left with little son. I should have waited till the one friend I thought I had got home, but noooo! I knew I was very UN worthy. Three ladies stood in the doorway, the one in the center shaking her fist at me telling me I’d burn in Hell. I was so mad at people, that I was smoking in the hour... been a long 50 years since and true to His Word, he has never left me. Though, bitterness did much damage to my heart... (repented much since). And thank Him daily for mercy and grace. It’s definitely been a Pilgrims Progress...😊
I’m so sorry for what your son and your whole family went through. The deception is very strong but I hope you are in a good church now where the Bible is properly taught.
I was raised in a charismatic church. I knew nothing different. I'm 46 now and just realized a few years ago it was all a sham, I tried to talk to my parents about it and they claimed I was borderline blasphemy. My dad said " I know I got tongues because when the preacher counted to 3 it just started coming out ". Well after about 6 to 9 months of not taking we are actually talking again just not about that. I struggle all the time with everything I went through at that church. I just wish my parents could see the truth.
Same, im 47 and my mom will never change. My parents say I’m bedridden because i lost my faith. Not true. I am a pastor’s wife,lol . I left word of faith.
I understand what you're saying about the charismatic church I was in one myself. I realize you're frustration the holy spirit is real and I do believe there is speaking of tongues. Otherwise it wouldn't been mentioned in the book of Romans. But we have to be careful in this day and age, the Bible says people are going to follow after seducing spirits and give up the word of God over something physical and emotional. We have to stick to the word of Godand nothing else. I don't know if you ever heard of this it's called the cannellini spirit or the snake the serpent. I believe that the spirit is trying to impersonate the holy Spirit to deceive the people. I noticed the spirit is starting to manifest itself in other Eastern religions people are falling under the spell or trance. The holy spirit is real my brother don't give up on your faith stick to the word of God no matter what and you'll be fine. Trust the word of God and allow the holy Spirit to lead you and guide you in all truth or the Bible is the word of Truth.
I'm 18 and last year I left the Pentecostal movement and my mum was still stuck in the whole debacle and we argued over it thank God she began to understand. Don't worry they will know the truth very soon
56 here. I will not say all my teachings in the church on the gifts etc were a sham...but I will say most of what I saw from the 90s onward I question. The most freeing thing I have experienced in the past 5 years of leaving this fellowship was realizing nothing I did or could do would make me good enough. Only faith in the finished work of Jesus on the cross does this.
Dan and Robin teach that the ONLY way we can hear from God is from the Bible. Yet, unless false doctrine is manifest or immorality the letter of the word will not reveal the source of a spiritual phenomenon.
@@JimiSurvivor The orthodox church gave you the bible and creeds & only the orthodox can interpret it as it is of no private interpretation. Rome split with orthodoxy in 1054 and protestants from Rome in 1517. Now we have 40,000 denominations claiming to be the one true church and even handling snakes. If you call your ancestor or predecessor wrong what does that make you? God is not doing anything new as he is the same yesterday, today & forever. I suggest reading church history before opening your mouth again.
Thank you for this video. I went to an Assemblies of God University in the 1990's. Steve Hill and Dr Michael Brown came to speak at our daily chapel service. These manifestations started up and our Pentecostal, yet wise President shut it down. so many students were so upset. But now looking back, I'm thankful for this man of God. Even though I'm no longer Pentecostal, I consider Dr. Guynes my brother in Christ. He carried more discernment than many of the other professors there.
Thank you for the honesty and publishing such glorious testimonies of hungry lives who have received the answer to their prayers. I also ask God for more of him and less of me! May many, upon watching this video, be moved to deep repentance and search for all the fullness of God. It is by the Spirit, that is the ministry of the new covenant. Blessings beloved brothers!!
I "fell out" once when a preacher did something similar. He went on to the next person as I fell saying "that's it, that's it." I felt absolutely nothing and all I could think was how long do I lay here, when do I get up. I was more worried about hopping up too fast than anything else.
@@jamiejay7633 you have no idea how easy it is to create mass hysteria or the desire to be part of something "bigger than yourself" can lead you to do strange things. Let's not even get in to the appearance of demonic possession running rampant through these folks that are just "open" to experience something.
@@jefferysmith4753 I believe in mass hysteria. What I disagree with is that you are saying all these people (some I've known) who went to Brownsville ect are not with Jesus but rather instruments of the Satanic realm. It's just absolutely wrong. Religion brings strange things out of people and when people are raised in charismatic churches they are throwing themselves at God to the best of their understanding. There is much to lament in charismatic church and all churches these days but if you love God and seek to love your brother and love doing what is right you are on the right path whether in any Christian denomination. I don't see how this harsh criticism helps the church at this dark hour!
@@jamiejay7633 I was merely relating an event I experienced. I also am unaware of any scripture which describes or mentions this behavior. If I am wrong please enlighten me on chapter and verse. On the other hand, I do know that there are such things as mass hypnosis, mass hysteria, and the herd mentality as well as certain brain washing techniques and it is entirely possible that any or all of these are being employed/manifesting at these events. That being said the Bible is enough for me, I don't need to "fall out" or get a "spiritual buzz."
I went to the revival and don't regret one minute. Steve Hill was a man of God! He preached the cross, the blood! The death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ! He preached hard against sin! He preached Hell was hot and heaven sweet! Lives were changed, people delivered from addiction!and most people who trash the revival never went to it. I know this may draw more criticism but wake up people and go after Jesus!!! John 14:6 blessings to you guys!!!
I used to watch Steve Hill on TV and thought he was brilliant...and still do to this day. I could tell he was a true man of God and felt his sermons were very powerful 🙏
I visited that revival three or four times. The preaching was anointed. I wondered why I didn't have the same manifestations as many of the people, so for me it was not only a blessing, because the music and worship was wonderful, but it was puzzling. I also attended some services with the laughter, but thought something was wrong with me. I could not understand the laughter. I understand now. A friend and I did have manifestations after we got back to our motel, and it was a joyful time in the Lord. It was interesting that it was away from the service. I don' t see how Steve Hill could have orchestrated the things I saw.
I am ashamed to say I have done the "courtesy drop", or been pushed down. Much of it is fake and I dread to think about what causes the cunvulsing and stranges noises. It's all shameful. God is faithful, even when I am not. He kept me and pulled me out of that demonic nonsence. I now attend a reformed church.
I never did a courtesy drop, but when John Kilpatrick prayed over me, I went down like someone had hit my legs iwth a telephone pole. I dropped like a fly having previously "prided" myself in not falling like everyone else. J. Kilpatrick prophesied to me, "These feet are goign to go to places they have never been." Within a year I was on a powerful missions trip in Turkey apologizing to Muslims for the crusades. I would not trade that experience for 10,000 Sundays at a Frozen Chosen church.
The more I pursued truth, the more reformed doctrine seemed to be the most biblical. I love this church. It has tripled in size over the last year. Its been a long road for me to come out of error but God keeps his sheep. He will not lose one. That is hope. Real hope.
Yes! I mainly did courtesy drops because I was sleepy and honestly needed a reason to shut my eyes 😕 But most of the time I wouldn’t fall. The speaker would keep pushing my head but I held my ground. I’m in a reformed church now also..thank the Lord! I’m glad you were able to get out too! The Lord knows those who are His and will bring His sheep to Himself 🙌🏽
@@markcrayton8151 Muslims need the gospel. I hope that you preached Christ was crucified for sins, that he took the wrath of God against sin and rose from the dead.
I'll tell you a little story, as I was involved with the Assemblies of God around this time... In 1996, I had broken up with my then-girlfriend (now wife) and had quit attending her Nazarene church. Before going there, I had been attending an AG church, and still considered myself pentecostal in my theology (albeit more moderately). A former AG pastor of mine invited me to come to another AG church in Michigan, where he was serving as an assistant pastor. The lead pastor in that church was close to my age (I was 22) and was a fairly solid pastor overall (think Mike Winger). So I began to attend and become involved. In winter of that year, the lead pastor expressed interest in visiting Brownsville, as the "revival" services were still happening. So, we sent him down (by that time, the assistant AG pastor who had invited me left the church, taking a call elsewhere). He came back, and was VERY different, in the following ways: 1.) The teaching emphasis was almost completely gone, replaced with experience-driven spirituality. While this pastor as an AG pastor had always embraced charismatic/pentecostal doctrine, it seemed to suddenly be ramped up to an unhealthier extreme. Music portions of the service became longer, more drawn out. FAR more time was spent encouraging (I would almost say "ordering") the congregation to "feel" the Spirit. 2.) The Pastor became very authoritarian in a manner I had never noticed before. I'll give three examples here: -First, about two Sundays after his return from Brownsville, he was talking about how the Lord was laying things on his heart concerning Sunday worship, and followed this by announcing to the congregation "Don't make any after-church plans on Sunday afternoons." Again, this came across more like an order than a proclamation. -Second, in his preaching, there was a disturbing degree of "Don't question the pastor" spoken about. It's one thing to declare the authority of the Word of God on the life of a Christian; this all good Christians can agree on. But to shift that to the preacher himself in a manner that comes across as a papal wielding of authority is something quite different. It was as if he understood that people would have some issues with what he was doing, and was trying to shut down any challenges ahead of time. -Third, the altar calls became nightmares. I remember one in particular: we had already gone quite long into the worship time (about 45 minutes after normal dismissal), and then the pastor decided to have an altar call for people to receive the anointing from God. Nobody came forward. He kept talking and encouraging. Still, nobody came forward. Eventually he began to DEMAND people come forward, and implied that church was not going to be dismissed until people came forward. Finally some people did come forward, but I suspect that they did it simply to get him to end the service. I've always had issues with altar calls anyway (and more so now, as I understand that they're not biblically based at all), but this was a straw that began to crack the camel's back. The more I researched the Brownsville phenomenon (I don't like calling it a "revival"), the more questions I had. I especially had problems when an Assembly of God pastor came forward with problems about it, and he wrote extensively about what he saw there. I began to listen to others like Hank Hannegraaf and John MacArthur, who were pointing out the Scriptural deficiencies with the phenomenon. One of the major issues that confirmed the problems was when one of the Brownsville pastors basically prophesied that Hank Hannegraaf would somehow be punished by God if he did not stop speaking out against Brownsville, which reminds me of Benny Hinn's "holy ghost machine gun" comment (incidentally, that prophecy never came to pass, verifying that this was not a move of the Holy Spirit). All that to say that I am now a confessional Lutheran, who can speak from more than one experience I've had concerning the problems with pentecostalism and charismaticism, even though I will concede that there are SOME solid preachers in the movement (when they're not talking about the gifts of the Spirit). If you're involved in charismaticism or pentecostalism. do yourself a favor and leave. It almost always goes in the direction of things like Benny Hinn and Brownsville.
Oh no sorry this was your experience. The authoritarian mindset is troubling. I remember John Bevere came to Brownsville and preached this harsh word about submitting to authority. It messed me up for awhile. Seems my experience at Brownsville was not so negative like many people in the comments. Write back if you have any questions.
This was the beginning of the end of the Assembly of God fellowship I grew up in. It caused so many splits in our local churches and district..so much upheaval and allowed a spirit I can't name to enter in. I had to fight crying watching this. Emotions can run strong in the Pentecostal movement and we are taught very early on to not doubt what we see. When we would ask/question, there was always some scripture (most cherry picked) that was used to back it up. When you are a child you expect to get the truth from your church teachers.
This is your opinion, my testimony is fact, I was there, saved, healed and now 27 years later still bearing fruit, still healed, still delivered, still saved. It was real. Man got in the way. Kilpatrick and Brown put their hands on it.
Interesting insight. What kind of church do you attend today? Although I had a positive experience there, looking back there was much error and experience based environment. Please write back.
@@MichaelCTruth Assembly of God. I 100% agree Kilpatrick mis handled it and left under sketchy circumstances. I also know the Assembly of God council got their nose in it and demanded Michael Brown to become AoG to continue as President over the School of Ministry. God showed up, man caused Him to leave
I remember when brown was fired from the school. I was there months at a time. I was AOG for awhile and foursquare for years. I feel that these churches don't teach the word in context. Did you watch the second video that came out today?
When you’ve experienced His presence and power you do want more. There’s a lot of scripture about thirsting, searching, seeking. Im not saying its all about the manifestation or feelings and Randy Clark says this too, but there’s nothing wrong with the desire to want that encounter. Jesus said, you will know them by their fruit. Let’s be weary to judge the Holy Spirit lest we blaspheme it…. I pray you experience just a taste of His love and power. You will never be the same. Blessings!
Our thirst for God is met in Christ. We are to search the Scriptures and first seek the kingdom. All these are by are sought by faith not emotional experiences . Btw the Holy Spirit is Him not it.
I respectfully disagree- hunger and thirst for more of Him and His Truths and His Kingdom principles can be continual. And the baptism of Holy Spirit and Power is scriptural. I would love to know how do you seek the kingdom by faith practically? What is the Kingdom about? What does Jesus teach on the Kingdom? Ps dont know how you got that inference about my reference to Holy Spirit? We also say “the” Lord etc…
My family visited this "revival" many times, and were caught up in the pentecostal charismatic stuff for a long time. Thank you for dissecting it and calling it out. This stuff makes me so angry now, I'm so thankful for you, Chris Rosebrough, and the Kozars for what you guys do. You give me hope that people can keep getting pulled out of this stupidity
A very good video that shows the history of the false revival is THE MOCKING SPIRIT INVADING THE CHURCH by JEREMIAH COHEN. It is pretty full on but should be seen. A man is interviewed around the middle of the video saying how God opened his eyes to the truth and helped him escape the movement.
@@patriciapendlbury2603 but that's all the pentecostal ism today seems to demonstrate, as that's the overall assessment for MANY if not all of those who come out of it. Almighty God DOESN'T clown for anyone, you're perfectly correct, he's being misrepresented by that movement
I went to the Brownsville revival with my family, the Lord's Blessings we received in our lives still in our lives. Yes more Lord, His touch on our lives still evendent today, my love for God seems to grow stronger and stronger, I am not ashamed of the gosible of Jesus Christ, it is the power of God to salvation!
What Steve Hill said was a classic example of twisting and manipulating scripture to suit man’s wants, needs and desires. As an ex charismatic of 23 years. When the Lord opened my eyes, I noticed this happening all the time with all the charismatics I was watching. It was mind blowing. The heat, the emotion, the tingling, the electric feeling, the feeling drunk, I’ve done it all. It’s all emotional based and going with the flow. Doing what your supposed to do and what everyone else is doing to FEEL God and allow God to have his way. If you didn’t do it you felt like you would miss out or wouldn’t be as spiritual as all the others. The thing is, Hinduism and other false religions are doing these same things! 🤯 It does not change anything in your life. Yes it makes you feel good and close to God, but seriously, it’s all about emotions and it’s not biblical, so therefore is not bringing you closer to the great I AM but close to a false god. It’s deception and manipulation in its finest form. It’s still blows my mind and breaks my heart watching it all still play out and the movement grow 🤦🏻♀️😢 Thank you so much for all you do in revealing the truth of God and his word. That is true freedom Bless you both 🙏🏼❤️
If they worshipping false god's, it doesn't matter if all three of the letters is Capital or the first letter is Capital in GOD it spell the same way. So y'all might as well know the truth that that word God, GOD, and God is false cause it a word not a name. The Romans got the word God from their idol's and they just put all three letters in capitalize. So GOD still is false
I spent 5 years in a pentecostal church. Age 11 thru 16 y/o. At age 13, I was saved & gave my life to the LORD. By age 16, I still was not speaking in tongues, even though many prayed over me, to receive this gift. (I was filled with the HOLY SPIRIT when saved.) Anyway, at age 16, we were in a revival & I became the "pet project" for tongues. It never happened. My pastor told me I was rejecting the HOLY SPIRIT & was filled with demons instead. He told me to never return to his church again. I didn't! Thank you FATHER, JESUS CHRIST & HOLY SPIRIT for protecting my young mind & heart. I didn't attend church for many years. The LORD remains with me all these years, guiding, blessing & loving me as I study HIS WORD in my home.
Berlin Ohio campus checking in. I was in the WoF at the time this started. The craziness of Brownsville and Toronto was why I soon left WoF. Thank GOD HE got me free of this nonsense.
Thank you for putting this history together! I haven't seen some of these interview clips before. Very helpful to see how it started and examining the sermon. We came out of charismatic churches years ago that were not extreme like that but more reserved and knew back then Toronto was unbiblical but didn't realize how much we were really exposed to the emotional manipulation common in messages like this.
You're right. The apostles shouldve skipped Pentecost.... What were they thinking? And Jesus?? Oh my goodness! Remember when He said, "The Father will give the Holy Spirit to thjose who ask?" How could He say such a thing, knowing full well that we should never ask for more? You're definitely on to something.
Actually, in Acts 2, Peter had to tell the onlookers that the folks in the upper room were filled with the Holy Spirit , not wine, because they appeared drunk. It always makes me shake my head when people criticize those who've been filled with joy when joy is the second fruit of the Spirit listed in the Bible.
Andrew Farley based in Lubbock , Texas is a Grace teacher and has a short half hour daily phone in programme on utube. The Sunday phone ins are an hour long and this latest Sunday program was focused on tongues. Callers were ringing in wanting to know the whys and wherefores and Andrews explanations were so good . He understands the purpose and meaning of speaking in tongues and rarely have I heard the truth he speaks on the subject expressed elsewhere in Christian churches. So I recommend anyone who is feeling they ought to be speaking in tongues' if they are a Christian and feel a failure or ungifted if not , listen to him and be set free from that pressure to conform to that nonsense ...🇬🇧🆓✝️
If my pastor got up and starting crying out that he just wanted more...I would be embarrassed and I would leave the church....Jesus is more than enough for the whole bride....just get back to the word and you will be fullfilled....embarrassing....orchestrated, definitely. Thanks Mr and Mrs Long.🇬🇧🙏🙏🙏
I grew up in a church in Connecticut where a guest speaker came to “bring the anointing” to us. I had to be 8-9 years old? I grew up with this and then onto Lou Engle and such as a teenager. It’s been a long road out of such false teaching!
So in response let’s monetize a UA-cam channel and borderline gossip about it! Hypocrisy! If John and Steve are in sin, isn’t vengeance for the Lord alone? Smh
@bearefx4372 Don't watch their videos thereby helping them recover some production costs. Send your money to R.H. Brown et al to help them recover from the meanie pants scripture and evidence based "gossip" by financing their mansions, cars, and private jets.
Happy Father's Day . . .These people are "nuts"! How can people make such fools of themselves? Yes, there are times when we are bored, in a rut, facing the same thing everyday. Been there. Done that. But God is faithful. He is on His throne. His purposes are being done. My job is to seek Him, read His word and pray. Experiences are nothing more than emotion. Emotions change all the time.
I experieced gthis as a teen. I was raised in it. I loved Jesus, my leaders told me this was His Spirit, so I wanted it. I don't know if it was psychosematic or demons, but I did all the things. Thankfully, God is faithful and used people like the Longs to graciously lead me out of this type of "worship." I have more joy now. I love the Scriptures. I know the real gospel now, that we are sinners saved by grace through faith.
It is interesting that these experiences only happen in meetings and conferences where it expected they will happen. When the people are at home on a grey Monday morning, or at work, or any other day of the week when they are engaged in the routine activities of life, even in their personal prayer times, these experiences do not happen. This is because the source of the hypnotic suggestion is not present. The real fellowship with the Father and His Son Jesus Christ takes place during our routine lives, and not in any hyped up atmosphere in a "Holy Ghost" meeting.
These people in this movement apparently don't understanding the meaning of "The Cross" and what we received from it. I rarely, if ever, see humbleness before God but instead see manipulators, malcontents, and selfishness whenever I view them and rarely can I watch one of your videos to the end. I am, however, immensely greatful to you for having the fortitude and strong enough stomach to listen to and expose these people. Thank you.
You are very lucky and fortunate to have found the videos. To this day, that church still goes after people who post the videos on UA-cam or worse, go after the apologists who exposes the movement and uses the videos. Keep up the good work
This is such a great video, I’m so glad you are covering this! I grew up in the Church of God (Pentecostal) and I remember us singing the Brownsville worship songs over and over in service. I never felt peace about it, it always whacky to me. Looking forward to the up coming videos.
I also spent a long time in COG and I remember even in the 80s building up for months praying for “revival” and then having a revival for a few weeks. It was nuts looking back on it now. Our church could get pretty crazy! People running and falling out, screaming, certain chairs to sit in the get prayed for, and the list goes on. Then around 99 a meeting pastor brought WOF into the church. And I had no idea what it was at the time so along with others was brainwashed into some stuff and being the pianist and music director played all the cool songs from Brownsville and other places. But early/mid 2000s I kept feeling like something wasn’t right. Took me a while to completely pull out because I wanted to play music. But I finally did after a lot of prayer and finding a book by Hank Hanegraaff called “Counterfeit Revival” and it put into words why I felt something wasn’t right but didn’t know what it was. So much time wasted in false doctrine but it happened a little at a time. The same song sang over and over for an hour or more. Just like in this video where Steve Hill tells them to sing a certain song and not to change songs. Our church did that even before Brownsville. And victory marches walking round and round and round. What is the point of that? Just crazy stuff!
@@ritadyer3770 The ones supporting this seem to be more into looking for a thrill than they are the Lord and His righteousness. Is there anything at all Christlike about uncontrollable laughter, writhing on the floor and screaming like an insane banshee and losing total control of yourself? No it isn't and the ones caught up in that movement had best wake up and realize that they are far from the will of God.
@@raymatthews4319 yes. You are right. I really wish I knew how to approach some folks I know that base their life on this mess and working their way up what I refer to as the “COG political ladder.” I’m so sorry I was ever involved in that mess. And how many troubles I brought on myself for being involved in a Pentecostal church. Lots of bad decisions made because of people I met in this movement. Still my bad choice. But my older children suffer the consequences of not having a good foundation. One is still suffering from alcoholism.
@@ritadyer3770 Unfortunately too many who are swayed by it base their brand of "Christianity" on what they can feel. They boast on that rather than God. Christ Himself said that a foolish and wicked generation seeks after a sign. The children of Israel during the time of Moses were the same and look at all the troubles they had. They wouldn't believe God without a miracle although He showed them many before. Today if someone relies on signs and wonders they are the ones who have no faith. They need to read Hebrews 11 to see that there were those who suffered and died for their faith.
28:25 THE UK has been wacky since the mid 70s Piercing tattooing and green hair. Came from THERE THE PUNKS I remember 1978, when they shown a man who pierced his cheek, on the news
@@openlybookish yes, I know the real Jesus now, I’m medicated (before I believed it left me open to demon possession) and my husband is also now reformed.
@@tammywisecup5634 it got so bad I had no choice. I attempted suicide and landed in the looney bin. Two years after that I watched the American gospel doc (had to was 5 times before I could finish it because it flew in the face of all of my beliefs) and God opened my eyes to who He is. It’s been 2 years now since I truly met Him and I’m still messy but I have real assurance now too.
wow. very sorry to hear that youve been through all that stuff. now looking back, im curious if you have examined yourself at the time and figured out how you could have fallen for this kind of deception?
Once I got saved I experienced rivers of living waters flowing through me and love of God waz shed abroad in my heart and peace beyond understanding....continued this way for month after month. John 4. Romans 5.5 Romans 1.16 and John 14.27. I thought everyone experienced this.
Excellent. Thank you. I still cringe 20 years later after spending 10 years in mild word of faith/prosperity churches here in Australia. I left not long after the Toronto Blessing arrived here.
I have watched y’all’s videos on The Toronto Blessing, The Lakeland revival and now the Brownsville revival, and while I do agree that we need to test all things, and that there were very strange things that took place at these revivals I do have a question that maybe someone can address. If demonic spirits are behind these revivals why would they be leading people closer to Jesus? Why would their love for the Lord increase after being touched by the Holy Spirit if that’s not what’s really happening. Demonic spirits would never lead people into a closer relationship with Jesus. I don’t understand what the enemy gains from it if it is truly him behind it.
This is EXACTLY IT!!!! Examine the FRUIT! That's what the people who've made this video need acknowledge!!! "Slain in the Spirit" IS in the Holy Bible!!!!! I believe I read it in the book of John.
Keep ‘em coming! Agree with the Longs 100%. A couple weeks ago heard another UA-cam channel with first-hand experience there claiming Steve Hill was something I don’t see on this video evidence you have. Glad it was captured on video. I’ve always thought, if we need revival so much, why aren’t we on our faces before God taking in His Word and being in communion with Him? Wouldn’t that revive you if you could truly pray to God and enjoy the fullness of Him through His Word? 2 Peter 1:3…”His divine power has given us EVERYTHING we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of Him who called us.” That everything doesn’t make we weary for some emotional and fabricated “more” which is actually “less” than the fullness of the Word.
After being Orthodox for 30 years any other church I go to for a wedding or funeral is like A Dr going back to his 10th grade biology class. Orthodoxy has the fullness of the truth where other churches have a lot or basically nothing. All I learned that was positive in the Church of God of Cleveland, TN was the trinity. The rest was useless garbage!
Its amazing what this 30 year old stuff looks like through a modern lens. There was no internet back then, so no critical examination. How Michael Brown still stands behind it is mind boggling.
I have a friend who attended Brownsville AG and was there June 18, 1995. She said it was real. The leadership had been praying for revival for 2 years. I asked about Bro Kilpatrick being held down and she said yes; also asked about the “river” (power of Holy Spirit) that flowed across the altar area…yes. She did say that after a period of time…not sure on time frame…that some people began to call it “their revival”. And, yes, David Wilkerson spoke out against such things. In the biography written by his son Gary Wilkerson…who, by the way, said his father would have never consented to a book written about his life while he was alive…said his father wanted habitation not visitation of the Spirit. I believe this revival started out authentic but, man got in the way. To me true revival is not shouting and physical manifestations but, it a stirring of the heart to get closer to Yeshua. To answer to why they would say they weren’t satisfied. It wasn’t that salvation of lost souls wasn’t enough, they wanted a deeper relationship with Yeshua. I’ve even prayed the same thing myself…longing for more of Yeshua. Please don’t judge what they were saying as wrong. Bro Kilpatrick was hungry for more of Yeshua. It’s like being married and wanting to know your spouse even better. As far as I know….thats not a sin. I, an AG from birth, don’t believe that manifestations are important to experience the Holy Spirit. And I do not agree with running from “revival to revival” for a deeper relationship with Yeshua. That is what you can receive in your prayer closet and from Bible study. DW preached against running from place to place. Read his book “Hungry for more of Jesus”.
Great program! Thank you. God bless you. I love what Justin Peters says, “if you want to hear from God read the Bible; if you want to hear Him speak audibly, read it out loud.” Hebrews 11:6. “But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.” Romans 1:17 “For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.” Romans 10:17 “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” What these people are seeking (for whatever reason) is “proof” or a “sign” or a “demonstration” to satisfy their flesh. Jesus said in Matthew 16:4. “A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas.” And he left them, and departed.
While those people may or may not be seeking a sign, we are called to be vessels of the mind of G. d. We are the body of G. d and Je. sus is our mind/head. That mind is supposed to be supernaturally revealed from G. d, and that perfect revelation that Peter received is the heart and foundation of everything that pertains to the ch. rch. G. d IS perfect revelation (1 John 1:5; Rev. 21::23) The mind of G. d and his thoughts is ALL there is or can be. ALL the emotion, intensity, sensation, understanding, and experience in the world is happening within his mind. G. ds personal emotions, sensations, understanding, perspectives, passion, willpower, desires, and identity is infinite. That living light wants to FULLY live through us(Ephes 3:19, 4:13; Col. 2:9-10) So, there are some people who want a supernatural amount of the mind of Chr: st. They want to have perpetually increasing superhuman joy, peace, patience, purity, passion, humility, creativity, understanding, faith, hope and love. The scripture records that our actions are worthless if we do them without love(1 Cor. 13:2-3). So, super human love is better than natural human love.
who has the truth out of 40,000 denominations in America alone? Orthodoxy is the church that can trace our bishops back to the apostles and also gave us the bible and our creeds. Read church history for yourself. Liturgy is beautiful and centered around the partaking of our Lord's precious blood & body every Liturgy!
I was really hoping to see this on your channel! It's hard to take Michael Brown seriously today when you see his younger self screaming "Fire! Fire! Fire! fire tunnel!" and running around the church. I was once a charismatic and I remember watching these videos before UA-cam was a thing. It was so confusing and hard to understand what was happening to them. I have a better understanding now and am so grateful to be out of that! Thanks Dan and Robin!
@@nekochan2656 Do you believe in encounters with the Holy Spirit and anointing? I don't believe this revival was demonic! It pushed people towards the Lord! Are Christians going to hell if they have theological errors?
These people in this alleged move of the Spirit claim they "feel' love like they never had before. but Hindus claim the same feeling while they worship Shiva for example. Apparently, demons can instill overwhelming feelings of love as well. Feelings obviously can be deceiving and not to be trusted.
Exactly, they must think that love is a mushy feeling. Instead of the real manifestations of the Holy Spirit, They reject and have contempt for what is truly God's nature And truth which is the Word. Galatians 5:22-24 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts 1 Corinthians 13 4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8 Charity never faileth:
Let’s just consider why John Kilpatrick is trying to convince everyone that he wants more of whatever… It should be most obvious that here is this man showing everyone just how pious and how extra Uber holy he is,and a step and a half above the rest, and so many light years ahead because he is seeking God and shouting at him on the front row of the empty church at 4am in his skivvies - and crying out. It wasn’t good enough for him to be just at home, and it wasn’t good enough for him to be doing this in secret… No he had to notify everybody about what he did. He needs to be elevated and so he does it all for the accolades that he will receive. This is his reward. I really don’t see much of a difference between John Kilpatrick and the man in scripture praying like the Pharisees on the street corner so that they’ll be noticed giving these long winded prayers. John Kilpatrick does not have a heart for God, no… He has a heart for self. That’s exactly why he’s up there trying to glorify himself. That’s why he’s there to explain to everybody just how close he is with God and that he’s got the inside scoop. He just received his reward… The accolades and the praise of men.
Yes. We’re not enough. But when we find God we realize the order. He wants more. He wants to be like God. That’s what it is. He is all about himself. He is a lover of self
I've done the rounds of quietly or loudly wailing and crying out to God for 'more' . I'm having to learn to accept that I have all that I need in Christ . I can't have anymore of God than I already have . I do need though more revelation of that fact . What he needed was to practice the patience that is part of the fruit of the Holy Spirit . I speak for myself too . And the said 'dry seasons' we go through is when faith really goes to work . I seem to be in a perpetual 'dry season' when it comes to 'feeling' any presence of God . Especially when I have few if any Christians around me to connect with physically and/ or spiritually. 🇬🇧🆓🇱🇷
It does seem odd that the very people who claim to have the power and gifts of the Holy Spirit more than any other church group weren't satisfied with their experience of the Spirit living with them 24 hours a day. I actually remember my charismatic church hearing about the Brownsville revival breaking out and then every week after that my church tried to make the same manifestations happen in our church as they heard about happening everywhere else. Over time I became increasingly uncomfortable with the fact that they were trying to make the spirit do tricks for us. That's of course not how they said it and that's not how they meant it but to me that's what was really going on as if they had to conjure up the spirit to do these signs and wonders to prove that they were just as spiritual and "in the rivers of the Holy Spirit" as the church in Brownsville. That's when I began to wake up that they somehow thought they were missing God or God wasn't with us if we didn't have the same signs breakout among us. My thought was: wasn't God with us everyday and minute especially if you believe he's omnipotent and gave you his Spirit? Eventually I was led out into a wonderful new community of mature and solid Christians and learned to read the word of God deeply and widely. Yes, just as you show in these videos, they were trying to prepare the audience for "something to happen" but I was so much more satisfied by reading the Word and learning about God from it.
I watched a video on the Kundalini spirit. What an eye opener! It looks just like these Charismatuc churches. They start out dancing and jumping up and down, then laughing like crazy, shaking, rolling on the floor, speaking in toungues. It really vreeped me out cuz i had been in a charismatic church. I came out.
Grew up in the WOF version of this stuff. Had hands laid on me probably 100 times. Never “fell out.” Always wondered why….now I believe it was because of Gods preserving grace at work in me. I praise Him for it. There is zero reference to this nonsense in scripture, especially as some kind of zap-it version of microwave sanctification. The grace of sanctification worked in the lives of Gods people is a long term process. And in that long term work God conforms us to the image of Christ thru repentance and the mortification of our sin.
Thank you for this video! I had never thought about the idea of "grooming" before, but it makes so much sense! Growing up in this movement, I would only be interested in hearing the Pastor's experiences or miracle stories as I thought it was what built up my faith. How deceiving. The Word of God was totally neglected or twisted, people came to hear the "testimonies" and stories expecting to be touched by God as well.
@@repentjesusiscomingsoon1529 Nope. What you’re missing is that this IS the context in which he was using. You’re making a distinction without a difference because a word from the Lord is still a word from the Lord. Therefore one has to conclude that some “prophetic word “ that supposedly comes from God… would actually have to carry the same authority as any word from scripture. The two are inseparable. So to tow that line and try to make some sort of distinction between a word from God versus a word from God… It’s not only committing the error of cheapening the authority of scripture… wow concluding that God‘s word in scripture is insufficient…, But it’s completely unbiblical in its application of some inner impression that does not come from God by lifting it up to the same level as scripture. Ultimately, you seem to have an inaccurate disparagement with the sufficiency of scripture in your mishandling of what is deemed as coming from the Lord. I would beg to differ with what people refer to as a word from the Lord today, for it certainly does not come from the Lord but comes from inside them self and their own imagination. How can God’s word be separated from scripture? It can’t be, so do not attempt to divorce God’s word from God’s word. When you attempt to slander me like this, you commit the same error as this false teacher whom you’re defending by assuming that I was taking this man out of context. His error is making the assumption that God‘s word is somehow separate from scripture. 2 Peter 1:19-21 “So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.” Do you want to hear a word from the Lord… It’s inside your Bible… Not inside your brain as some inner impression, not some feeling or liver shiver… But exclusively from God’s written word which He recorded and preserved for us. So don’t take scripture out of context lest you be like Satan. But this is precisely what you do when you try to make a distinction without a difference about a word from the Lord with reference to scripture. Let me encourage you to repent. Jesus IS coming soon. Let me also encourage you to find a better UA-cam handle… Maybe like - I don’t know… Your name. That way you’re not hiding behind some pious UA-cam handle that ultimately does not reflect accurately your theology but rather brings a repproach upon the name of Christ. I can’t begin to tell you how many times someone like yourself who wishes to make a good showing in the flesh, attempts to correct others thought they themselfs have an biblical point of view, and they attempt to exhault themselves with some title rather than use their name. Typically it’s these kind who refuse to rightly handle scripture. This is a shameful thing. And so it goes with saying… REPENT, Jesus is coming SOON.
@@jeremiahyeo5863 Sir, I'm praying right now that you gain wisdom!!! I'm 77 years old, been saved since I was a kid and I'm an evangelist for the Lord. Sorry, but I do know what I'm speaking of. God bless and may He open your heart.
Hie Word comes alive for me to this very day...I’ve had dry spells where I stopped reading for a few days. Boy, talk about getting sadder. (Course, I am still healing from osteoporosis, with 9 fractures down my back.) still making me cry...but, I’m getting my garden in. Amazing how alive His Word is. Jesus is all I need. (Though friends call now and then helps too. 😉)
I experienced something l like that when I was about 10 years old with my mom everybody said she had a nervous break down There where 10 kids in my family we. Where taken by the state and put into foster care I lived next door to my parent’s My mother used to watch these type of preachers Prosperity types This kind of preacher can destroy a family
When Steve Hill had the Hindu "occult touch" [that is what it was] he fell down because of hypnotic suggestion. He saw all the people on the floor and he believed that when Sandy Miller touched him, he would have an experience and fall down too. So when he received the touch on his forehead, it happened as he expected through the self hypnotic suggestion. This was what was going on at Brownsville. Those who went forward for prayer believed that the "touch from God' would result in an experience, and that is exactly what happened. It was all of the flesh through the fleshly hunger for a sensory experience.
I feel so sad because my husband 100% believes in these revivals. He attended a church in Kansas City that is all about "revival." Yet since I went to that church I never once heard the gospel preached. Not once has anyone said open your bibles. It's all about what the spirit is doing, being slain in the spirit and speaking in tongues. Yet ironically a child who grew up in the movement later stated as an adult that it was all fabricated. My husband claims he would die for the experiences he has had there. When I go I feel more and more depressed because I'm not "touched by God." I believe the only touch I needed from God was the opening of my eyes and heart to know that the Gospel of Christ was true. I've now since said I don't want to go and he says I don't believe in the power of God. I do but not man made manifestations.
I have and can feel the presence of the Holyspirit rise in situations praying for people and being prayed for I don’t know about falling out but my legs would shake and make it hard to talk sometimes so shaky .. I remember first time I got prayed for it was so heavy and like electric (for lack of better word) now sometimes when I pray for people and lay hands they will get wobbly legs and shakey and sweat a lot .. Holyspirit is amazing
My sister in law attended these “revivals” and because of these teachings she refused to follow up with her doctors for her post breast cancer surgery treatments. This ended up killing her. My brother, her husband was an Assembly of God Pastor.
I think it’s a shame that all the people that got saved (I know some) and people who received the baptism of the Holy Spirit are being told now that’s it’s false. I don’t believe it’s false, I know people who were changed by this revival. I think sometimes we want to put down everyone who disagrees with your view of what should be church. I’m not saying there aren’t charlatans (Todd Bentley) but to say all These revivals are false is just wrong.
I agree with you. I attended this revival two different times. I did not experience any of the manifestations myself, however, I saw many others who did and having been a Christian for 68 years now I know the Spirit of God when I encounter Him and believe me He was real in this revival and people's lives. And on the contrary, I feel nothing but a judgemental spirit with these two people and a lack of rightly deviding the Word of God. Read the book of Acts slowly word for word, if you don't believe the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is for us today and a different work from the Holy Spirit that draws us to Christ. Jesus himself said He, the Spirit had been with them but shall be in you. Peter said on the day of Pentecost, "this promise is to you, your children, those that are afar off, even as many as the Lord God shall call". I think that pretty well takes in everybody. After, Pentecost the Apostles found other believers and asked them had they received the Holy Ghost since they believed, and their reply was, we haven't heard if there be such a thing. Then the Apostles laid hands on them and they received the gift of the Holy Ghost and all spoke in other tongues. Our Dear Brother Paul said that he spoke in tongues more than you all. Now having said all that, I will be the first to admit that the devil loves to get Into every revival or move of God and try to counterfeit and corrupt it. But, oooh, I wouldn't want to stand in your shoes on judgment day. Jesus, himself said let the tares grow with the wheat and he would gather them and cast them in the fire. I pray that you both will see the truth of God's word and quit judging the Saint's of God that you know nothing about.
@@glendagales6690 You are right. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is for us today. I have a comment on here about it. I received that in 1979 as a new Christian in the presence of my own home. And a prayer language at church. There is a counterfeit from Satan working in the world and it's so sad that many because of that....don't think this is real or for today. It was real after Pentecost and it is also real now. Praise the Lord
these false preachers are ALL walking in the flesh, while using "Gezuz Wirds"...the pronunciation is the same but the meaning is completely different. false false false
Good to hear your opinion. My life was changed by this event. God was already working in my life. These services allowed me to see how serious we must take our relationship with God. Looking back much of it was experience and emotion based. I believe God used this time in my life. My experience was not so bad while others in comments speak of terrible things that happened. I'm eager to hear more from people on this subject. It will help bring clarity to this time in my life.
No one, no thing can EVER take away or buy away what I know that I know God did in my life at this revival. I was completely healed, delivered and set free from multiple things. I knew the leadership long before the revival ever happened- and they are genuine and authentic and will also tell you that not everything at the revival was of God. Anyone who points a finger at what God did in many, many, many of us as a result … and is still doing - should be very careful.
I give you folks so much credit. It's not easy to leave a church you're involved in, all your friends are there and you certainly receive animosity from people. You're critical thinkers and realized something wasn't right. The true Holy Spirit should be working inside of people who are faking and mocking Apostolic gifts to convict them of what they're doing. I have to wonder if they're even saved.
I found this so informative and to the point with no distractions and the right length. Thank you both for a well put together talk. In the mid 90s we left an Anglican Church - we’re in the Uk- for an evangelical church and later heard the church we left had received “the blessing” and all kinds of weird things going on: people barking like dogs, rolling around on the ground etc. You’ve exposed the background to the so called “blessing”. Also, tragic how people like RT Kendall were influenced by Rodney Howard-Brown. We went to Westminster Chapel in London where RT was minister before all this happened and he preached sound sermons then.
I am convinced that the church does need more, but it is not what their teaching in this revival. The more is The Word of God, studying it, and applying it to our own lives. Another thing that we need more of is The LOVE of God, that is the LOVe of rHim and the love of our neighbors, that is what is missing in many churches. These are the things that should want more of.
I went to Brownsville around 1997 for the first time. Then after that, maybe 100 times. The evangelistic messages by Steve Hill were instrumental in me rededicating my life to Jesus. The services i attended were powerful. I was a baby Christian so I did not know the bible that well at all. My life did turn around. I believe God was already working in my life and somehow used this, maybe, to get me going into he right direction. Looking back on theses times now, I can see how it was not balanced. How, much of it was emotion and experienced based. Now I can see how wanting more can be a deceptive feeling. This can give someone a feeling of being discontent when life gets mundane. Not every thing can always be fun and exciting in this life. It was good for me to see this video you both put together. I look forward to seeing future videos on this subject. I followed the revival and this ministry for about 15 years. Meaning, I followed the main pastor to the new church he started. If anyone has in questions I can try to answer them.
@ I agree about being a new Christian. I would never send some one into this environment that didn't know the Word. I did hear alot of scripture taught that I had never been exposed to. This led me to reading my Bible. Later, I came across another ministry that taught the Bible line by line. This really changed everything for me. Chasing experiences leads to disaster. The idea that you are always one service away from some miraculous break through is toxic.
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC You are right. Most Christian TV is for entertainment purposes. Right before my visit to Brownsville I was desperate to get out of a terrible situation I was in. I turned on TBN but no power and no gospel just entertainment. I did hear the power of the gospel at Brownsville. Overall it was God leading me.
I was at the Brownsville Revival for 3 days in July 1997 a full 2 years after it started. I saw the incredible power of the Holy Spirit at work like I have never seen before or since. Most of you doubters just flat do not know of what you speak for “for if this plan or this work is of men, it will come to nothing; but if it is of God, you cannot overthrow it-lest you even be found to fight against God.” Acts 5:38-39. It was real. I will say that until the day I die. Stop fighting against God.
I went to a pastor's conference in 1986. The keynote speak for this 3 day event, was a guy by the name of David Wilkerson. Where this man gazed you could feel like a magnification of the manifest presence of GOD. When he finished, there were about 500 pastors on the floor in front of the platform. They were not slain. They were there voluntarily. They were weeping and repenting. No hocus pocus. Just preaching against sin with great anointing. You just never forget something like that. :)
David Wilkerson was a true man of God. I do not expect the Longs to be critical of him.
If the church had just 10 David Wilkersons worldwide? It would not be in such a filthy whore state it is in.
That man was called by Yahweh God to preach pure beautiful Gospel of Christ.
There's a you tube video with David Wilkerson on Weird manifestations. He was preaching against it. He was so hurt by people doing these things. He said they were making the Holy Spirit look like a fool.
@@KENBORDEN1 I’ll try to find the video. I remember hearing a pastor tell stories about things that happened in the church like a man being picked up and thrown from his seat, or the pianist deciding to jump up and shout the piano kept playing. I didn’t witness these things. Just heard the stories and we were told it was the Holy Spirit. I believed those stories in my 20s but now know that it was demons.
I think we were also being groomed to expect weird things/manifestations. There was very little preaching going on during these times. Mostly just anticipation of what the “Holy Ghost” was going to do. Everyone just anticipated the alter service. Not an alter call for repentance. That’s when things happened.
What is your take on alter calls?
I had one pastor who refused to give an alter call for repentance. One Christmas I did a powerful Christmas play and the end was a great time to call people to repentance. I had asked the pastor ahead of time to NOT call EVERYONE to come up front like he always did but to give an alter call for repentance only. The convicting power was there. I think people may have gotten saved. But he called the whole congregation up front which then the conviction left the building. I never went back after that. He didn’t want the convicting spirit in the room because he was living in sin and he couldn’t handle it I later found out. So sad. He never once that I can remember preached on sin. He was Cog but preached WOF which I had no idea what that was. He brainwashed the congregation by preaching the same sermons over and over and over every week until we accepted it as truth.
And I loved David Wilkerson...read all the books to my sons when they were boys. I still come across his messages and am thankful he was a solid man of God!
I’m a 37 year old black woman sitting here gleaning SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE AND SOUND DOCTRINE from 2 Middle Aged White people. Talk about the ways of GOD🙌🏾💜
Our God sees no color Sister, he loves his children without measure.
Color, race etc doesn’t matter…
We’re one body, one race, united in Jesus. May God bless you and your family. The Church rejoices to have you!
God bless you!❤
Exposing themselves
I went to this revival in the 90s and what was going on there was no hocus pocus. The power of god was strong in that building
This reminds me of my own experience in the charismatic movement. I went to this Holy Spirit event may be 6 or 7 years ago. I remember there was a Saturday night service to get filled with the Holy Spirit! I was with my friends and our seminary professors were the ones laying their hands on us and praying for us to get filled. So we were all eager to get prayed for. But I remember that two of my profs were praying for my friend who was standing next to me. she was jerking and making some noise and crying! And my profs were saying “more Holy Spirit more!” and I was watching what was happening to her and waiting for them to lay their hands on me. Well, they passed over me and went to other people and prayed for them! Well, that was the worst night of my life! I felt like the Holy Spirit ignored me! I cried the whole night asking God why my profs didn't pray for me and why He didn't touch me that night! I thought God was withholding His Holy Spirit from me! I was emotionally and spiritually immature! I didn't have a solid understanding of the word of God. I was so deceived and vulnerable! Now I thank God that my profs didn't pray for me that night😀I don't know what kind of spirit I would have trafficked!
God spared you that day
@@Freedomfortruth90 Yes, He did! 😀 I'm so grateful for His protection!
you would have had the Kundalini spirit imparted into you. completely demonic
@@jeffmcelroy5364 Thank God for His protection! But I was genuinely seeking the Holy Spirit, not a demonic, Kundalini spirit! I never even heard of that spirit until recently. When I saw people fall backward, laugh hysterically, jump up and down, etc... I used to think they were touched by the Holy Spirit because you are conditioned to believe that in the charismatic movement! But now I know better! 😀
God was protecting you.
Psalm 119:11
Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.
92 Unless thy law had been my delights, I should then have perished in mine affliction.
93 I will never forget thy precepts: for with them thou hast quickened me.
94 I am thine, save me: for I have sought thy precepts.
oh, wow! How could this happen? Why do people question anything that happens? I am one fruit from the Revival. Born and Raised in Italy, got saved at the age of 20, left everything to be a missionary. I started to watch videotapes of the revival while I was a missionary in Italy, in a tent ministry. I would be touched by the power of God, and few years later I got to visit the Pensacola Revival. Every night we were in church, EVERY NIGHT, for a month, i went to church, and 6-8 hours in the presence of God were like 5 minutes. Think, for a month..... Imagine the 4 years those people had spent in that building singing for 2 hours, preaching and teaching, and praying for hours. People did not want to leave the building..... Outside, people would be waiting for a long time in line to enter the building.....I finally became a student of the School of ministry that was there. And besides the night services, we had school everyday..... no man can do this without the power of God. There was a sincere move of the Spirit, preaching on repentance, real men of God, dedicated, Bible lovers, and Presence seekers. Rrother, whoever you are, you have zero discernment... sorry, I must be blunt.... God has surely changed me, and many many people I know through that revival.
My husband and I went there from Louisiana in about 2003-2004. It was such a great disappointment to myself and my husband. We attended 3 services there and it was nothing like what was being touted on the news everyday! Four of our friends attended at another time and they were very disappointed, too. We saw nothing like the videos you presented and there were few people there.
@@nelllynd4914 Was Steve Hill, Lindell Cooley and Pastor Kilpatrick preaching, or was it someone else??? Perhaps they had a substitute preaching, so the same anointing wasn't there?
@@nelllynd4914 I am sorry, the revival started in 1995, and it started to cool down in 2000-2001... Revivals don't last too long. 1 year, max 3 years. But this was about 5 years. They all say: "In 5 years, 4.5 million people visited the revival"... 2003-04 was not during the revival.
Jesus has already given me His forgiveness of all of my sins, the free gift of eternal life and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, without which it would be impossible to live a Christian life. I can only speak for myself, but I love living every moment of every day. I'm happy and at peace. And that's on top of what the Lord has given me. I would be appalled at the idea of approaching His throne to demand even more!
Well said. Christ is everything not emotional experiences.
The late Pastor Dick Woodward tells how his Godly mother taught her many children that if Jesus isn't everything then Jesus isn't anything! He also taught the Four Spiritual Secrets.
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC That doesn't line up with Stephen's or Paul's experience! Jesus is in heaven, at the Father's right hand making intercession for you! If He's in your heart, which is desperately wicked, you're in deep doo doo!
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC I find myself in complete agreement with Deborah Szafraniec, whose comment you've likely already read. Your statement is wholly unbiblical.
@@TheJpep2424 Thank you. To God be all the glory!
I don’t think it was orchestrated like a hoax would be. Instead these experiences were what was being sought, because that is what is thought to be revival. Having grown up in the AOG, we all sought more of Jesus. Revival meant more emotional experiences not a return to Biblical truth and the Gospel. Notice the use of the repetitive music as well.
I am going to a Baptist Church now. They were going to have a revival in the near future. I asked the Church secretary if yhe
if the people were going to jump and Hollar and swing from the chandeliers...She looked at me like I was crazy. So, I guess different Churches look at revivals in different ways.......
The music is to put people in a trance. Satan knows the Bible too and in the New Testament we are warned over and over again about lying signs and wonders. Look at what Paul says in 1 Crrinthians 14 verses 22 to 39 and Matthew 7 verses 22 and 23. Last but not least 1 Peter 4 verses 17 & 18 where it says God is co ming in judgment to His house first and then the world. Take a look at a video by JEREMIAH COHEN titled THE MOCKING SPIRIT INVADING THE CHURCH. I recall on another video a certain Pastor Scotland in Canada singing with sunglasses on and a black stetson. I shot the sherrifff but did not shoot the deputy. He then turns to gesture at a closed Bible and says You want me to me from that old thing I suppose. He called the Bible old thing and when heopens it he crows like a chicken for 20 seconds and then shuts it. Was that under the anointing? Think not.
Red Rock mama, yes I would agree with you on that I don't think this was a hoax I believe that this was genuine.
And the reason why I'm saying that is because I experienced the same thing at my other Church in Chicago which was about 40 years ago. A man by the name of Rodney Howard Brown came to our church and for the next four to five weeks strange supernatural things were happening around the church people crying people laughing people experiencing the power the presence of the holy Spirit.
People were literally freezing in place like statues. It was a crazy time to remember.
At first I was very skeptical about all of this but then when Rodney Howard Brown came down the aisle I was sitting in the very back of the church.
And what he started to head towards me I got out of my seat and I stood in the aisle in front of him.
He said brother be filled with the presence and the power of God.
When he put his hand on my head my body became limp like a rag doll and the power just went through me like a surge of electricity I became powerless like somebody turned me off like a TV set.
I felt Joy unspeakable joy and the laughter started rolling from my lips.
It was like being touched from heaven.
It was a wonderful experience.
But then I was hearing that the same kind of thing that was happening in other countries but in other Eastern religions they called it the snake the kondolini spirit or the fake holy Spirit or something impersonating the holy Spirit.
I thought I would just share that with you.
Because we have to be careful with our physical and emotional state that we don't become deceived by the spirit but that we first put our trust and faith in the word of God the Bible and nothing else.
I too was raised AOG and i agree with you, we were just seeking a experience!
Happy Father's Day!❤ 😊 I thank God for delivering me from the Latter rain cult hyper Charismatic back in the late 80's 🙏
I confess that I did take a trip to Pensacola and went to a Brownsville service. At that time I was bummed!! I was not one of those that "fell out, jerked, rolled, laughed, " whateverrrrrrrrrr!
I was saved in a Pentecostal church and I always wondered what was wrong with me cuz I never was able to "catch" any thing. I did do the gibberish speak in tongues but that was pretty much easily mimicked and I never felt that power from on high either, you know the one that I'm talking about, I didn't feel "super natural " and I always did question my salvation, like, what's wrong with me?
Praise the Lord the TRUTH has set me FREE!!
I have thought the same thing. Didn’t speak in tongues like everyone did. Found out after I left, they if I’d just talked to my friend, he didn’t either...makes me so sad to this day...always, even now, wonder what’s wrong with me, and the Word speaks to. Me Daily! Thankful for Jesus and the work HE did for me.
Me too I always wondered why didn't I ever catch the anointing and all that stuff. Until I left I started thanking God for the truth
MATTHEW, LUKE 4:4
DEUTERONOMY 8:3
IT IS WRITTEN
Gibbesh tongues wow last pastor I seen mock tongues well it didn't end well wow you people are dangerous
when you're saved you know it. There's no doubt. Tongues are not an indicator of your worth, although they are real. Don't let Satan deceive you and pull you away from God. The "Christians are hypocrites" insult is old and used often by so many to make an excuse for themselves on why they won't give their lives to Christ.
Back in the early1980s a friend of mine was going to a Charismatic church. He was very close to the pastor there. He asked me to attend one Sunday meeting because the pastor was going to try to pull something over the congregation. He told me the pastor was going to make vague references to "something more". He also told me someone in the congregation was going to give a message in tongues and the interpretation would be more vague references to this something more. Well, I went and all that he told me took place. It turned out that the something more was Mormonism. The preacher had become convinced that the Book of Mormon was a true revelation and was going to introduce it to that church bit by bit. Not too long after that the church fell apart. It disbanded and the preacher moved to another state. It just goes to show you that this kind of stuff has been out there for quite a while and there are all kinds of weirdness that Charismatics can come up with.
I hadn’t ever thought about how fake tongues and interpretations could be used to groom a congregation! That makes so much sense! I have heard of preachers being caught practicing their sermons even the speaking in tongues.
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The Mormon's from the beginning have documented pretty much everything which is proving to be a problem for them. Joseph Smith said in one of these documents that he was in a Mormon meeting where somebody did speak in tongues. From what I remember reading about it the interpetation was confirming Mormon doctorine.
But apparently in this case, the pastor was Mormon, not charismatic.
@@melaniesirignano9408 he was a tongue talker, he led a Charismatic church. He just became convinced that the Book of Mormon was divinely inspired over time. I heard from another preacher that he was pastoring a church in Virginia some years after this. He didn't know about what had happened until I told him.
Instead of thanking God for Christ's life, sacrifice on the cross, and resurrection, breathtaking in itself, people want MORE. What more is there? If it's more goosebumps, thrills and spills, that discontent gets everyone into striving for an emotional experience, and that's basically a form of works.
It’s like asking for stew instead of the birthright. They want the feel good here and now to scarf down rather than eternal treasure.
If it's so easy to bs a revival then surley churches would do it more now that church attendance/Christian values are on decline?
Funny I think it is hyper grace not hyper law. They expect God to sanctify them through a “more” experience. Instead of seeking to sanctify their flesh with Gods help, they lean on the justification experience as if since God was and is fully responsible for that, he is fully responsible for sanctification, through no effort of our own.
They like the gift but forsake the cross of discipleship for more gifts.
What more is there? The filling of the Holy Ghost.
Absolutely! Asking for more is so offensive.
I was involved in Hinduism via yoga before I became a Christian. Then I was born again by the spirit of God. When this stuff hit the Messianic charismatic church I started out in, I recognized it as the same stuff I had seen in the New Age circles, and was led to refuse it and left, praise the Lord. Stay in the bible, the King James Bible.
Praise the LORD. You did not realize that when the LORD allowed you to be involved in that stuff, all the while HE was educating you for future discernment. Thanks for the great testimony.
Powerful insight.
The devil always has a counterfeit for the real thing.
I am sure Hinduism and many false religions have prayer, fasting, self denial, etc
Does that make these things umbilical just because they exist in false religion?
Please grow up!
Thank you. They just dont get it.
Use any good translation you want folks. But that’s awesome you noticed it was kooky. 👍
At 20 minutes he said that he fell down by the power of God, just because you fell down doesn’t mean that it was from GOD 🤦🏻♀️
I cannot stand when they say more Lord, more Lord, more Lord, it’s always in threes just like mantras, and every time I hear more Lord, it reminds me of Heidi Baker when she was touching that poor kid and he was going into convulsions screaming on the top of his lungs and she says “I think he’s got it”
yeah he got it, he now has demons that you just put in him by touching him
Thanks for the video Daniel and Robin
It’s very sad and tragic when these speakers think that saying “More Lord!,” “Fire!” and “Now! Now! Now!” is prayer.
@@simply_miki Agree 💯
And what’s even more sad is the people that believe them 🤦🏻♀️
Its ingenious that they have scared people so much that they won't dare call out false prophets, confront sin or criticize a sinful leader that fails the qualifications of a leader/elder bishop and so forth. Therefore they can say and do whatever they like, teach false doctrine, be involved in sexual sin/porn adultery divorce, cold hard hearts, pride, arrogant, lying, deceiving, financial dishonesty, fraud, greed and what have you; and everybody thinks
if you confront it, notice it, call it out or have them step down because they are not qualified according to scripture then you are blaspheming.
Speaking of all those modern day false prophets
Matthew 23:15
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves
@@jennamarielovesjesus12actually I think 🤔 it’s sad when religious critics like yourself reject the Holy Spirit and criticize the servants of the Lord.
I was there. Hindsight is 20/20. I experienced firsthand everything you highlighted. I even saw the fall-out and falling away from this fiasco. Your presentation really helped by bringing fresh insights with what I already new. Good job here! 👍
I was there so many times. I did hear the gospel and the word taught on many occasions. They always told people to repent and not live in sin. I did get some good things from it. Was this your experience at all? I was new Christian
at the time so was not able to discern the errors.
I'm not defending them. But I have to be fair in what went on down there via my experience. I would never send anyone who didn't know the word into this environment. The word I context is so crucial to truth. Please write back.
Sorry, just saw this now. There was more gospel presented then than now. I too was a new Christian, so I was easily deceived due to the excitement added to some truth I was gaining I am AG church. In hindsight, all that we see today in the newer church movements are extensions of what was happening then.
My Grandma felt the power of God, and I know she knew He was real. We are to worship God and make a joyful noise unto the Lord. We can't put God in a box and say how He will move on people. Yes, there is wildfire out there, but the power of God is real. God will separate the wheat from the tares. No, she did not bark like a dog, but she danced before the Lord. That was beautiful. I love you two and you remind me of some dried up Baptists.
Brownsville change my life and many of my coworkers. I lived in Minnesota at the time. Still on fire for the lord. I never felt the manifest presence of the Lord till I came to Brownsville. It doesn’t sound like you 2 went there. I remember going to work (Northwest Airlines) and praying for my coworkers in the directors office and one man was slanded in the spirit. We he got up he told us all he could see was Jesus. And that he was getting ready to commit suicide and the Lord took it away.
That’s my testimony. I’m still just a plain mechanic
Just wondering how he knew it was Jesus we dont know what he looks like, also we r told try the spirits and make sure there of God, you just assumed because he was suicidal and he said he saw Jesus it was from the Lord, counselors have stopped people from committing suicide as well so that doesnt prove it was God you also said he was "slain" fell down if you notice in scripture when people encountered the Lord in worship they never fell backwards, they bowed down and worshipped but when the pharisees came to arrest Jesus they fell backwards!....I will say God is merciful sometimes when we dont know better, and gives us time to come out from false teaching I had been involved in these manifestations many years ago and at tent revivals churches etc...I even remember one time they laid hands on me and I feel backwards and the ushers forgot to catch me and I hit my head on the concrete floor because we were in a building and there was no carpet and my head crashed to the floor...at the time I thought this was the LORD, I'm older now and The Lord has shown me thru scripture my folly I repented, the Lord is patient with us...I had never read the scripture let no man lay hands on you suddenly, the pastors and evangelists I knew at the time always laid hands and invited speakers to lay hands on the congregation so who knows what demons were manifesting or was being transferred we didnt know these people at all we just " trusted the pastor" instead of trusting the scripture our Safety Net...
It caused damage to my family over the years that God has healed but we paid a dear price for not being good Bereans , you will always be looking for some type of feeling or emotion instead of trusting the bible it's a very dangerous road to continue to travel down.
What a wonderful testimony, thank you for sharing this!!!
Yes sir Jesus Christ is alive and he was most certainly working at Brownsville...I'm sure Mr and Mrs miserable over there didn't go or else they wouldn't have permafrowns on their faces...cause when I went I had the exact same experience you had the power of God smacked me around like a red headed step child..the fire of God is real whether these nay Sayers believe it or not
The presence of God is felt everyday esp in the Word
That “wanting more” is an affront to the gospel. It devalues the scripture and Christ s death on the cross
It’s an affront to the Lord.
AMEN AND AMEN!!!
Exactly and Amen @brenmanock
We are complete in Christ Jesus.
👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻
I'm so thankful for LongforTruth Ministry. It has helped clear up a lot of confusion I had concerning God and His Gospel, having being born-again in the Charismatic movement. Now I enjoy a peaceful and fulfilling walk with Christ that is devoid of the confusion, disorientation, fluster and turbulence that is the inevitable outcome of the Charismatic heresy.
Very true of the Charismatic movement!
Peaceful and fulfilling. That is water to my thirsty soul. I love it. Thank you!!❤❤❤
Went to a small Church of God once about a month after being baptized. The pastor walked around as he was speaking and a couple of times placed his hand on the head of members of the church and said something "in tongues". Then he did the same to me but spoke English. I had previously prayed silently that if this was really the Holy Spirit at work that He would fill me as well, but if not that He would protect me from whatever was going on. About later everyone there - about 25 of us - was "speaking in tongues" except for me, and no one was interpreting anything. Praise the LORD for His protection and grace!
This new anointing isn't from God is a Kundalini spirit manifest as a counterfeit I've seen this with Muslims Hindus shakings laughing ancontrolable these people being like drunk it's seems like what's happening in wof Charismatic churches they put this on you by laying hands on you they pray it into your soul it's not from god I hear on fire tunnels I've seen these young girls trying to testify shaking a lot it doesn't look good for sure it doesn't look Pentecostal I'm a oneness believer we don't have that in our churches it's definitely strange fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 for sure becareful who you allow pray over you
Better read you're bible if tongues is not God why couldn't I do it sitting a barstool before I got saved really I find all these negative comments appalling must be baptist lol we will all face judgement thank God mine at least won't be for deception and that's a fact
I firmly believe in the biblical gift of tongues. I just don't believe that's what is manifesting in most charismatic/Pentecostal churches today.
@@keittkatranch5167 well when I was filled with the holy Ghost in a very biblical grounded church I felt the wind it was an amazing experience and I know it wasn't the devil don't care what anybody with they're form of godliness but denying the power there of has to say about it this is some of the most judgemental garbage I've ever seen maybe somebody needs to expose longing for truth the people are whacked is what they are probably Biden supporters 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for the great video Dan and Robin. As I sat and watched this video with my wife I couldn't help but recall the many years I spent as a Pentecostal preacher lying prostrate on the pulpit platform sucking carpet dust begging God for MORE! I was born to Pentecostal parents who were both evangelist and preachers being ordained by A. A Allen. My parents were steeped into the Pentecostal Holiness Movement and groomed me to be the next A.A Allen. They thought I was a "Holy" prodigy and projected their broken dreams of being worldwide healing ministers onto me when their ministry failed. After many years of ministering in the pentecostal and charismatic circles, I began to see a pattern in my life... depression, suicidal tendencies and overwhelming disillusionment. All that my parents had taught me to believe that I was, I realized I wasn't. God in His great mercy delivered me from the lies that I was brain washed to believe about myself AND Him. I now have tasted the living water Jesus promised. Keep up the good work exposing the cults of today. I am living proof that what you are doing makes a difference. Happy Father's Day, bro.
Good thing you weren't the next A.A.Allen, he died of liver failure due to being an alcoholic.
@@ritadyer3770 Yea, my mother's father was actually a pioneer in the Pentecostal movement in our area. He started several (small) churches. He was no man of God though. He molested his own children and some of his grandchildren. He trained all his children to play instruments so that they could play the music for his ministry. He brain washed them like my mother did me. After doing some research of my own, seems that my grandfathers people had come out of the mormon church. I imagine, Perry Stone COG's darlin, was more than likely groomed too..just my thought.
@@de629 I was an alcoholic, as were all my siblings! Either I was in the pulpit bringing down the house or in the bars entertaining drunks!
@@marknmeltruesdale7388 Me too brother, as was my mother. The one thing that scared me was DRUNKARDS are on the list in 1cor of those that will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
@@de629 Yea, the tyranny of the law that Pentecostalism imposed on my life accentuated the weight of condemnation so powerfully that drunkenness was the only way I could forget that I was on my way to hell. I was alcoholic at the age of 15.
I will say this I went to Brownsville in 96 I believe. I went bound by pornography even though I went to other evangelical churches only to leave the same way I came !!! LOL!!! I walked into Brownsville expecting to be changed. Man was I ever, I went up for prayer and someone laid hands on me and said freedom belongs to you IN JESUS NAME!!! To this day I have had no issues with porn since ,nor do I have any mental images. COMPLETELY SET FREE BY THE POWER OF PRAYER IN JESUS MAME. TO THIS VERY DAY. I PERSONALLY KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO WENT TO POWERLESS CHURCHES AND LEFT BOUND , BUT THESE SAME PEOPLE WENT TO BROWNSVILLE AND ARE STILL FREE TODAY LOVING JESUS AND SHARING THEIR TESTIMONIES. GO FIGURE!!!! LOL. Please be careful in judging another ministry I KNOW THAT I AM FREE AND HAVE BEEN SINCE THAT DAY. NO REOCCURRING ISSUES NO BACKSLIDING JUST LOVING JESUS AND TELLING PEOPLE ;YOU CAN REALLY BE FREE!!!! FREE AT LAST THANKS BE TO GOD!!!’
Thank you for commenting. Praise Jesus for your miracle. I never went to this revival but I believe in the gifts of the spirit. I am cautious about judging things like this bc I know God can move and can fill people with the Holy Ghost.
And many went for miracle healing and left sick and dying. Lies were told about crime reducing and many similar false testimonies. Worst of all, the church ended with 10 million in debt and Kilpatrick claimed he didn't know about the debt. He quit the church in a Sunday service. The congregation has never yet recovered from the damage this wolf caused. God delivered you, not a "powerful" church. Balaam gave one of the greatest Messianic prophecies and is know as a great false prophet in the Bible because he was chasing money. Kilpatrick, Hill, and Brown were all chasing money and fame.
@@jennifersmith6696 we have the holy spirit at belief
Being filled with spirit was around FIRST PENTECOST/SHAVOT
acts was TRANSITIONAL
From Peter to Paul
After Paul..this filling wasn't normative.
(Although it could happen)
I was healed from depression at a ladies prayer group
Which she was a prophetess
WITH WOMEN
My mom asked her, if I'd marry
She said yes, and described him
We've been married 34 years
But notice..it was a WOMANS group
no MEN were there
God, in His mercy and grace meets us where we are at. No revival can heal or save you, only Holy Spirit. Watch a video of Kundalini.
it is a choice to just not look at it...after a while..,you dont want it because you want to live for Christ. Every human gets tempted with various temptations. God's Word says 1 Cor 10:13 here hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it
My family attended the faith assembly of God. The Pastor wanted to make the trip to Brownville Assembly of God to bring back that "anointing" for our church. So my son went with the Pastor, deacons, and other church members. My son came back from there and became deeply depressed. He finally told me many years after that, he thought that he was not saved because he did fall over jerk, or shake, like everyone else did. I was on the worship team at the church, the pastor's wife who was playing the piano said to me, just start to jump around. After that our church was full on Purpose Driven church! The pastor went on to become Dristrict Superentendent of the Assemblies of God. Thank you so much for this video, you guys are helping a lot of people wounded by this so called "move' of God.
You are not going to believe this, but after watching this video I was telling a family member about a pastor who went down to Brownsville and wanted to bring "that spirit" back to his church. I then read your comment. It is the ironically the same pastor. I will tell you this, we knew he wanted that position you mentioned in the A/G 35 years ago. He always went along with what the current fad was or whatever was popular. He knows how to "play the game".
I wasn’t with the same, but hasn’t spoken in tongues, and after 3 years, the last of which was being shunned by particular lady housemates, I left with little son. I should have waited till the one friend I thought I had got home, but noooo! I knew I was very UN worthy. Three ladies stood in the doorway, the one in the center shaking her fist at me telling me I’d burn in Hell. I was so mad at people, that I was smoking in the hour... been a long 50 years since and true to His Word, he has never left me. Though, bitterness did much damage to my heart... (repented much since). And thank Him daily for mercy and grace. It’s definitely been a Pilgrims Progress...😊
I’m so sorry for what your son and your whole family went through. The deception is very strong but I hope you are in a good church now where the Bible is properly taught.
@@Ginger1998 Amen!
@@Ginger1998 . WOW! God is so good. Thank you for sharing this.
Wish you guys were around in the 90s... would have saved me a lot of grief.
They were...but there was no UA-cam...they could have distributed VHS tapes, but UA-cam is a far more effective thing
I was raised in a charismatic church. I knew nothing different. I'm 46 now and just realized a few years ago it was all a sham, I tried to talk to my parents about it and they claimed I was borderline blasphemy. My dad said " I know I got tongues because when the preacher counted to 3 it just started coming out ". Well after about 6 to 9 months of not taking we are actually talking again just not about that. I struggle all the time with everything I went through at that church. I just wish my parents could see the truth.
Same, im 47 and my mom will never change. My parents say I’m bedridden because i lost my faith. Not true. I am a pastor’s wife,lol . I left word of faith.
I understand what you're saying about the charismatic church I was in one myself.
I realize you're frustration the holy spirit is real and I do believe there is speaking of tongues.
Otherwise it wouldn't been mentioned in the book of Romans.
But we have to be careful in this day and age, the Bible says people are going to follow after seducing spirits and give up the word of God over something physical and emotional.
We have to stick to the word of Godand nothing else. I don't know if you ever heard of this it's called the cannellini spirit or the snake the serpent.
I believe that the spirit is trying to impersonate the holy Spirit to deceive the people.
I noticed the spirit is starting to manifest itself in other Eastern religions people are falling under the spell or trance.
The holy spirit is real my brother don't give up on your faith stick to the word of God no matter what and you'll be fine.
Trust the word of God and allow the holy Spirit to lead you and guide you in all truth or the Bible is the word of Truth.
@@sirblingjax I think that thing is called "The Kundalini Spirit."
I'm 18 and last year I left the Pentecostal movement and my mum was still stuck in the whole debacle and we argued over it thank God she began to understand. Don't worry they will know the truth very soon
56 here. I will not say all my teachings in the church on the gifts etc were a sham...but I will say most of what I saw from the 90s onward I question. The most freeing thing I have experienced in the past 5 years of leaving this fellowship was realizing nothing I did or could do would make me good enough. Only faith in the finished work of Jesus on the cross does this.
I've listened to a number of sermons by evangelist Steve Hill and they all line up with Gods word.More preachers need to preach like steve preached.
Steve Hill preached a gospel of works.
I heard the gospel of repentance
They don't line up: didn't you see the video?
@@phaxadFaith without works is dead
So when they prophesy and it doesn't come true should they be stoned?
Always, always, ALWAYS - try the spirits whether they are of God. Thank you both for the education.
@ THANK YOU AND AMEN TO THAT! 💖💖💖💖🙏🙏🙏🙏
Dan and Robin teach that the ONLY way we can hear from God is from the Bible. Yet, unless false doctrine is manifest or immorality the letter of the word will not reveal the source of a spiritual phenomenon.
@@JimiSurvivorword salad
@@JimiSurvivor The orthodox church gave you the bible and creeds & only the orthodox can interpret it as it is of no private interpretation. Rome split with orthodoxy in 1054 and protestants from Rome in 1517. Now we have 40,000 denominations claiming to be the one true church and even handling snakes. If you call your ancestor or predecessor wrong what does that make you? God is not doing anything new as he is the same yesterday, today & forever. I suggest reading church history before opening your mouth again.
Thank you for this video. I went to an Assemblies of God University in the 1990's. Steve Hill and Dr Michael Brown came to speak at our daily chapel service. These manifestations started up and our Pentecostal, yet wise President shut it down. so many students were so upset. But now looking back, I'm thankful for this man of God. Even though I'm no longer Pentecostal, I consider Dr. Guynes my brother in Christ. He carried more discernment than many of the other professors there.
Assemblies of Fox???
@@caroleimani9754 hahaha. I fixed it. 🤦🏻♀️ 😂
Ya never know about them foxes when they start to assemble 😉😄🦊
@@winonahdemars579 But after attending an Assemblies of Fox university for 3 years, I know what the Fox says. 😀
There ya go 😁👍
Thank you for the honesty and publishing such glorious testimonies of hungry lives who have received the answer to their prayers. I also ask God for more of him and less of me! May many, upon watching this video, be moved to deep repentance and search for all the fullness of God. It is by the Spirit, that is the ministry of the new covenant. Blessings beloved brothers!!
I "fell out" once when a preacher did something similar. He went on to the next person as I fell saying "that's it, that's it." I felt absolutely nothing and all I could think was how long do I lay here, when do I get up. I was more worried about hopping up too fast than anything else.
The Longs aren't right about everything. Revivals like Brownsville and Toronto aren't that easy to fake or they'd be happening all the time.
@@jamiejay7633 you have no idea how easy it is to create mass hysteria or the desire to be part of something "bigger than yourself" can lead you to do strange things. Let's not even get in to the appearance of demonic possession running rampant through these folks that are just "open" to experience something.
@@jefferysmith4753 I believe in mass hysteria. What I disagree with is that you are saying all these people (some I've known) who went to Brownsville ect are not with Jesus but rather instruments of the Satanic realm. It's just absolutely wrong. Religion brings strange things out of people and when people are raised in charismatic churches they are throwing themselves at God to the best of their understanding. There is much to lament in charismatic church and all churches these days but if you love God and seek to love your brother and love doing what is right you are on the right path whether in any Christian denomination. I don't see how this harsh criticism helps the church at this dark hour!
@@jefferysmith4753 I enjoy a good spiritual buzz after doing something pleasing unto the Lord. Makes life worth living.
@@jamiejay7633 I was merely relating an event I experienced. I also am unaware of any scripture which describes or mentions this behavior. If I am wrong please enlighten me on chapter and verse. On the other hand, I do know that there are such things as mass hypnosis, mass hysteria, and the herd mentality as well as certain brain washing techniques and it is entirely possible that any or all of these are being employed/manifesting at these events. That being said the Bible is enough for me, I don't need to "fall out" or get a "spiritual buzz."
I went to the revival and don't regret one minute. Steve Hill was a man of God! He preached the cross, the blood! The death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ! He preached hard against sin! He preached Hell was hot and heaven sweet! Lives were changed, people delivered from addiction!and most people who trash the revival never went to it. I know this may draw more criticism but wake up people and go after Jesus!!! John 14:6 blessings to you guys!!!
I used to watch Steve Hill on TV and thought he was brilliant...and still do to this day. I could tell he was a true man of God and felt his sermons were very powerful 🙏
You are so right!
Yet so many were deceived and misled
I visited that revival three or four times. The preaching was anointed. I wondered why I didn't have the same manifestations as many of the people, so for me it was not only a blessing, because the music and worship was wonderful, but it was puzzling. I also attended some services with the laughter, but thought something was wrong with me. I could not understand the laughter. I understand now. A friend and I did have manifestations after we got back to our motel, and it was a joyful time in the Lord. It was interesting that it was away from the service. I don' t see how Steve Hill could have orchestrated the things I saw.
He didnt it was God bless the lord of hosts for his amazing sense of humor he's good ain't he
Satan and his demons did! Test the spirits to see whether they be of God!
I am ashamed to say I have done the "courtesy drop", or been pushed down. Much of it is fake and I dread to think about what causes the cunvulsing and stranges noises. It's all shameful. God is faithful, even when I am not. He kept me and pulled me out of that demonic nonsence. I now attend a reformed church.
I never did a courtesy drop, but when John Kilpatrick prayed over me, I went down like someone had hit my legs iwth a telephone pole. I dropped like a fly having previously "prided" myself in not falling like everyone else. J. Kilpatrick prophesied to me, "These feet are goign to go to places they have never been." Within a year I was on a powerful missions trip in Turkey apologizing to Muslims for the crusades. I would not trade that experience for 10,000 Sundays at a Frozen Chosen church.
The more I pursued truth, the more reformed doctrine seemed to be the most biblical. I love this church. It has tripled in size over the last year. Its been a long road for me to come out of error but God keeps his sheep. He will not lose one. That is hope. Real hope.
Yes! I mainly did courtesy drops because I was sleepy and honestly needed a reason to shut my eyes 😕 But most of the time I wouldn’t fall. The speaker would keep pushing my head but I held my ground. I’m in a reformed church now also..thank the Lord! I’m glad you were able to get out too! The Lord knows those who are His and will bring His sheep to Himself 🙌🏽
It's called kunduline and paganism and Hinduism don't worry we all make mistakes
@@markcrayton8151 Muslims need the gospel. I hope that you preached Christ was crucified for sins, that he took the wrath of God against sin and rose from the dead.
My family was forever changed by this revival and still bearing the fruit, by God’s grace.
Oh yes it is as an outpouring of God power and so many people where changed forever!
I'll tell you a little story, as I was involved with the Assemblies of God around this time...
In 1996, I had broken up with my then-girlfriend (now wife) and had quit attending her Nazarene church. Before going there, I had been attending an AG church, and still considered myself pentecostal in my theology (albeit more moderately). A former AG pastor of mine invited me to come to another AG church in Michigan, where he was serving as an assistant pastor. The lead pastor in that church was close to my age (I was 22) and was a fairly solid pastor overall (think Mike Winger). So I began to attend and become involved.
In winter of that year, the lead pastor expressed interest in visiting Brownsville, as the "revival" services were still happening. So, we sent him down (by that time, the assistant AG pastor who had invited me left the church, taking a call elsewhere). He came back, and was VERY different, in the following ways:
1.) The teaching emphasis was almost completely gone, replaced with experience-driven spirituality. While this pastor as an AG pastor had always embraced charismatic/pentecostal doctrine, it seemed to suddenly be ramped up to an unhealthier extreme. Music portions of the service became longer, more drawn out. FAR more time was spent encouraging (I would almost say "ordering") the congregation to "feel" the Spirit.
2.) The Pastor became very authoritarian in a manner I had never noticed before. I'll give three examples here:
-First, about two Sundays after his return from Brownsville, he was talking about how the Lord was laying things on his heart concerning Sunday worship, and followed this by announcing to the congregation "Don't make any after-church plans on Sunday afternoons." Again, this came across more like an order than a proclamation.
-Second, in his preaching, there was a disturbing degree of "Don't question the pastor" spoken about. It's one thing to declare the authority of the Word of God on the life of a Christian; this all good Christians can agree on. But to shift that to the preacher himself in a manner that comes across as a papal wielding of authority is something quite different. It was as if he understood that people would have some issues with what he was doing, and was trying to shut down any challenges ahead of time.
-Third, the altar calls became nightmares. I remember one in particular: we had already gone quite long into the worship time (about 45 minutes after normal dismissal), and then the pastor decided to have an altar call for people to receive the anointing from God. Nobody came forward. He kept talking and encouraging. Still, nobody came forward. Eventually he began to DEMAND people come forward, and implied that church was not going to be dismissed until people came forward. Finally some people did come forward, but I suspect that they did it simply to get him to end the service. I've always had issues with altar calls anyway (and more so now, as I understand that they're not biblically based at all), but this was a straw that began to crack the camel's back.
The more I researched the Brownsville phenomenon (I don't like calling it a "revival"), the more questions I had. I especially had problems when an Assembly of God pastor came forward with problems about it, and he wrote extensively about what he saw there. I began to listen to others like Hank Hannegraaf and John MacArthur, who were pointing out the Scriptural deficiencies with the phenomenon. One of the major issues that confirmed the problems was when one of the Brownsville pastors basically prophesied that Hank Hannegraaf would somehow be punished by God if he did not stop speaking out against Brownsville, which reminds me of Benny Hinn's "holy ghost machine gun" comment (incidentally, that prophecy never came to pass, verifying that this was not a move of the Holy Spirit).
All that to say that I am now a confessional Lutheran, who can speak from more than one experience I've had concerning the problems with pentecostalism and charismaticism, even though I will concede that there are SOME solid preachers in the movement (when they're not talking about the gifts of the Spirit).
If you're involved in charismaticism or pentecostalism. do yourself a favor and leave. It almost always goes in the direction of things like Benny Hinn and Brownsville.
@@comfortisrael217 The Holy Spirit indwells every believer at the moment of conversion.
Oh no sorry this was your experience. The authoritarian mindset is troubling. I remember John Bevere came to Brownsville and preached this harsh word about submitting to authority. It messed me up for awhile. Seems my experience at Brownsville was not so negative like many people in the comments. Write back if you have any questions.
This was the beginning of the end of the Assembly of God fellowship I grew up in. It caused so many splits in our local churches and district..so much upheaval and allowed a spirit I can't name to enter in. I had to fight crying watching this. Emotions can run strong in the Pentecostal movement and we are taught very early on to not doubt what we see. When we would ask/question, there was always some scripture (most cherry picked) that was used to back it up. When you are a child you expect to get the truth from your church teachers.
They seem to only tend to use book of acts..BEFORE chapter 7
That's the first shavot post resurrection and HOLY SPIRIT fell
This is your opinion, my testimony is fact, I was there, saved, healed and now 27 years later still bearing fruit, still healed, still delivered, still saved. It was real. Man got in the way. Kilpatrick and Brown put their hands on it.
Interesting insight. What kind of church do you attend today? Although I had a positive experience there, looking back there was much error and experience based environment. Please write back.
@@MichaelCTruth Assembly of God. I 100% agree Kilpatrick mis handled it and left under sketchy circumstances. I also know the Assembly of God council got their nose in it and demanded Michael Brown to become AoG to continue as President over the School of Ministry. God showed up, man caused Him to leave
I remember when brown was fired from the school. I was there months at a time. I was AOG for awhile and foursquare for years. I feel that these churches don't teach the word in context.
Did you watch the second video that came out today?
@@MichaelCTruth no I haven’t watched it
@@gsp-greenstripepilot9508 ua-cam.com/video/VXqOePFUs5s/v-deo.html&ab_channel=LongforTruth1
When you’ve experienced His presence and power you do want more. There’s a lot of scripture about thirsting, searching, seeking. Im not saying its all about the manifestation or feelings and Randy Clark says this too, but there’s nothing wrong with the desire to want that encounter. Jesus said, you will know them by their fruit. Let’s be weary to judge the Holy Spirit lest we blaspheme it…. I pray you experience just a taste of His love and power. You will never be the same. Blessings!
Our thirst for God is met in Christ. We are to search the Scriptures and first seek the kingdom. All these are by are sought by faith not emotional experiences . Btw the Holy Spirit is Him not it.
I respectfully disagree- hunger and thirst for more of Him and His Truths and His Kingdom principles can be continual. And the baptism of Holy Spirit and Power is scriptural. I would love to know how do you seek the kingdom by faith practically? What is the Kingdom about? What does Jesus teach on the Kingdom?
Ps dont know how you got that inference about my reference to Holy Spirit? We also say “the” Lord etc…
My family visited this "revival" many times, and were caught up in the pentecostal charismatic stuff for a long time. Thank you for dissecting it and calling it out. This stuff makes me so angry now, I'm so thankful for you, Chris Rosebrough, and the Kozars for what you guys do. You give me hope that people can keep getting pulled out of this stupidity
A very good video that shows the history of the false revival is THE MOCKING SPIRIT INVADING THE CHURCH by JEREMIAH COHEN. It is pretty full on but should be seen. A man is interviewed around the middle of the video saying how God opened his eyes to the truth and helped him escape the movement.
That's not real pentecostal ism
@@patriciapendlbury2603 so do you have a definition of the "real" thing for clarification purposes?
@@shadowlandsfarmandcreamery5400 God doesn't clown for anyone
@@patriciapendlbury2603 but that's all the pentecostal ism today seems to demonstrate, as that's the overall assessment for MANY if not all of those who come out of it.
Almighty God DOESN'T clown for anyone, you're perfectly correct, he's being misrepresented by that movement
I went to the Brownsville revival with my family, the Lord's Blessings we received in our lives still in our lives. Yes more Lord, His touch on our lives still evendent today, my love for God seems to grow stronger and stronger, I am not ashamed of the gosible of Jesus Christ, it is the power of God to salvation!
What Steve Hill said was a classic example of twisting and manipulating scripture to suit man’s wants, needs and desires.
As an ex charismatic of 23 years. When the Lord opened my eyes, I noticed this happening all the time with all the charismatics I was watching.
It was mind blowing.
The heat, the emotion, the tingling, the electric feeling, the feeling drunk, I’ve done it all.
It’s all emotional based and going with the flow. Doing what your supposed to do and what everyone else is doing to FEEL God and allow God to have his way. If you didn’t do it you felt like you would miss out or wouldn’t be as spiritual as all the others.
The thing is, Hinduism and other false religions are doing these same things! 🤯
It does not change anything in your life. Yes it makes you feel good and close to God, but seriously, it’s all about emotions and it’s not biblical, so therefore is not bringing you closer to the great I AM but close to a false god.
It’s deception and manipulation in its finest form.
It’s still blows my mind and breaks my heart watching it all still play out and the movement grow 🤦🏻♀️😢
Thank you so much for all you do in revealing the truth of God and his word.
That is true freedom
Bless you both 🙏🏼❤️
If they worshipping false god's, it doesn't matter if all three of the letters is Capital or the first letter is Capital in GOD it spell the same way.
So y'all might as well know the truth that that word God, GOD, and God is false cause it a word not a name.
The Romans got the word God from their idol's and they just put all three letters in capitalize. So GOD still is false
Brownsville just another fake false preaching nothing else but demonic.
I spent 5 years in a pentecostal church. Age 11 thru 16 y/o. At age 13, I was saved & gave my life to the LORD. By age 16, I still was not speaking in tongues, even though many prayed over me, to receive this gift. (I was filled with the HOLY SPIRIT when saved.) Anyway, at age 16, we were in a revival & I became the "pet project" for tongues. It never happened. My pastor told me I was rejecting the HOLY SPIRIT & was filled with demons instead. He told me to never return to his church again. I didn't! Thank you FATHER, JESUS CHRIST & HOLY SPIRIT for protecting my young mind & heart. I didn't attend church for many years. The LORD remains with me all these years, guiding, blessing & loving me as I study HIS WORD in my home.
JK is of the same ilk as my former pastor. 😢
Berlin Ohio campus checking in. I was in the WoF at the time this started. The craziness of Brownsville and Toronto was why I soon left WoF. Thank GOD HE got me free of this nonsense.
Same. My old church was tied to Brownsville. I can't stand "revivalism"
. If it's so easy to bs a revival then surley churches would do it more now that church attendance/Christian values are on decline?
I hope, you stay in your bible📖
Thank you for putting this history together! I haven't seen some of these interview clips before. Very helpful to see how it started and examining the sermon. We came out of charismatic churches years ago that were not extreme like that but more reserved and knew back then Toronto was unbiblical but didn't realize how much we were really exposed to the emotional manipulation common in messages like this.
So now preaching Jesus and repentance is spiritual manipulation wow
@@davidquillen6041 That is not what I said.
How dare we ask God for "more". Sending His Son as a sacrifice for our sins is Everything!
You're right. The apostles shouldve skipped Pentecost.... What were they thinking? And Jesus?? Oh my goodness! Remember when He said, "The Father will give the Holy Spirit to thjose who ask?" How could He say such a thing, knowing full well that we should never ask for more? You're definitely on to something.
Agreed. There is a song that says “yesterday’s fire wasn’t enough” I hate that song! So awful
The laughing revival is weird you never see ANYWHERE where Jesus and his disciples sitting around laughing for NO reason
Satan can appear as an angel of light
Actually, in Acts 2, Peter had to tell the onlookers that the folks in the upper room were filled with the Holy Spirit , not wine, because they appeared drunk. It always makes me shake my head when people criticize those who've been filled with joy when joy is the second fruit of the Spirit listed in the Bible.
@@paulg988 acts 2 the disciples were speaking in tongues not laughing uncontrollably the never said they were laughing
@@jondowdy1795 But the passersby thought they were drunk, correct?
@@paulg988 they weren’t laughing they were speaking
Andrew Farley based in Lubbock , Texas is a Grace teacher and has a short half hour daily phone in programme on utube.
The Sunday phone ins are an hour long and this latest Sunday program was focused on tongues. Callers were ringing in wanting to know the whys and wherefores and Andrews explanations were so good . He understands the purpose and meaning of speaking in tongues and rarely have I heard the truth he speaks on the subject expressed elsewhere in Christian churches.
So I recommend anyone who is feeling they ought to be speaking in tongues' if they are a Christian and feel a failure or ungifted if not , listen to him and be set free from that pressure to conform to that nonsense ...🇬🇧🆓✝️
If my pastor got up and starting crying out that he just wanted more...I would be embarrassed and I would leave the church....Jesus is more than enough for the whole bride....just get back to the word and you will be fullfilled....embarrassing....orchestrated, definitely.
Thanks Mr and Mrs Long.🇬🇧🙏🙏🙏
I grew up in a church in Connecticut where a guest speaker came to “bring the anointing” to us. I had to be 8-9 years old? I grew up with this and then onto Lou Engle and such as a teenager. It’s been a long road out of such false teaching!
"There's got to be more...There's got to be more.. ."
Fame. Money. Attention.
Leads to PRIDE...
EXACTLY
So in response let’s monetize a UA-cam channel and borderline gossip about it! Hypocrisy! If John and Steve are in sin, isn’t vengeance for the Lord alone? Smh
@bearefx4372 Don't watch their videos thereby helping them recover some production costs. Send your money to R.H. Brown et al to help them recover from the meanie pants scripture and evidence based "gossip" by financing their mansions, cars, and private jets.
Happy Father's Day . . .These people are "nuts"! How can people make such fools of themselves? Yes, there are times when we are bored, in a rut, facing the same thing everyday. Been there. Done that. But God is faithful. He is on His throne. His purposes are being done. My job is to seek Him, read His word and pray. Experiences are nothing more than emotion. Emotions change all the time.
I experieced gthis as a teen. I was raised in it. I loved Jesus, my leaders told me this was His Spirit, so I wanted it. I don't know if it was psychosematic or demons, but I did all the things. Thankfully, God is faithful and used people like the Longs to graciously lead me out of this type of "worship." I have more joy now. I love the Scriptures. I know the real gospel now, that we are sinners saved by grace through faith.
It is interesting that these experiences only happen in meetings and conferences where it expected they will happen. When the people are at home on a grey Monday morning, or at work, or any other day of the week when they are engaged in the routine activities of life, even in their personal prayer times, these experiences do not happen. This is because the source of the hypnotic suggestion is not present. The real fellowship with the Father and His Son Jesus Christ takes place during our routine lives, and not in any hyped up atmosphere in a "Holy Ghost" meeting.
I saw this first hand back in 1999.
What a heresy that was!
So glad I'm not involved with that movement any longer.
Please tell us what it was REALLY like!!
These people in this movement apparently don't understanding the meaning of "The Cross" and what we received from it. I rarely, if ever, see humbleness before God but instead see manipulators, malcontents, and selfishness whenever I view them and rarely can I watch one of your videos to the end. I am, however, immensely greatful to you for having the fortitude and strong enough stomach to listen to and expose these people. Thank you.
You are very lucky and fortunate to have found the videos. To this day, that church still goes after people who post the videos on UA-cam or worse, go after the apologists who exposes the movement and uses the videos.
Keep up the good work
. If it's so easy to bs a revival then surley churches would do it more now that church attendance/Christian values are on decline?
If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Gal. 5:15
@@markcrayton8151 What are you saying, that we should let the venomous snake devour innocent children?
@@markcrayton8151 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are of God. I John 4:1
spent a week at Brownsville left with a fire for evangelism ! Yes Lord we will ride with you
Hallelujah!!! That's marvelous, praise God! What was it really like??
Fraud
This is such a great video, I’m so glad you are covering this! I grew up in the Church of God (Pentecostal) and I remember us singing the Brownsville worship songs over and over in service. I never felt peace about it, it always whacky to me. Looking forward to the up coming videos.
I also spent a long time in COG and I remember even in the 80s building up for months praying for “revival” and then having a revival for a few weeks. It was nuts looking back on it now. Our church could get pretty crazy! People running and falling out, screaming, certain chairs to sit in the get prayed for, and the list goes on. Then around 99 a meeting pastor brought WOF into the church. And I had no idea what it was at the time so along with others was brainwashed into some stuff and being the pianist and music director played all the cool songs from Brownsville and other places. But early/mid 2000s I kept feeling like something wasn’t right. Took me a while to completely pull out because I wanted to play music. But I finally did after a lot of prayer and finding a book by Hank Hanegraaff called “Counterfeit Revival” and it put into words why I felt something wasn’t right but didn’t know what it was.
So much time wasted in false doctrine but it happened a little at a time.
The same song sang over and over for an hour or more. Just like in this video where Steve Hill tells them to sing a certain song and not to change songs.
Our church did that even before Brownsville. And victory marches walking round and round and round. What is the point of that? Just crazy stuff!
@@ritadyer3770 The ones supporting this seem to be more into looking for a thrill than they are the Lord and His righteousness. Is there anything at all Christlike about uncontrollable laughter, writhing on the floor and screaming like an insane banshee and losing total control of yourself? No it isn't and the ones caught up in that movement had best wake up and realize that they are far from the will of God.
@@raymatthews4319 yes. You are right. I really wish I knew how to approach some folks I know that base their life on this mess and working their way up what I refer to as the “COG political ladder.”
I’m so sorry I was ever involved in that mess. And how many troubles I brought on myself for being involved in a Pentecostal church. Lots of bad decisions made because of people I met in this movement. Still my bad choice. But my older children suffer the consequences of not having a good foundation. One is still suffering from alcoholism.
@@ritadyer3770 Unfortunately too many who are swayed by it base their brand of "Christianity" on what they can feel. They boast on that rather than God. Christ Himself said that a foolish and wicked generation seeks after a sign. The children of Israel during the time of Moses were the same and look at all the troubles they had. They wouldn't believe God without a miracle although He showed them many before. Today if someone relies on signs and wonders they are the ones who have no faith. They need to read Hebrews 11 to see that there were those who suffered and died for their faith.
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THE UK has been wacky since the mid 70s
Piercing tattooing and green hair. Came from THERE
THE PUNKS
I remember 1978, when they shown a man who pierced his cheek, on the news
The Spirit of God is Very Real
I was there and the long term affects of that… it almost killed me, literally. I lost my husband and children for a time, because I lost my mind.
I hope things are better for you now.
@@openlybookish yes, I know the real Jesus now, I’m medicated (before I believed it left me open to demon possession) and my husband is also now reformed.
@@lucylledanyelle8923 glad to know you weren’t afraid to get medical help. I went through some of that and am better now too.
@@tammywisecup5634 it got so bad I had no choice. I attempted suicide and landed in the looney bin. Two years after that I watched the American gospel doc (had to was 5 times before I could finish it because it flew in the face of all of my beliefs) and God opened my eyes to who He is. It’s been 2 years now since I truly met Him and I’m still messy but I have real assurance now too.
wow. very sorry to hear that youve been through all that stuff.
now looking back, im curious if you have examined yourself at the time and figured out how you could have fallen for this kind of deception?
Once I got saved I experienced rivers of living waters flowing through me and love of God waz shed abroad in my heart and peace beyond understanding....continued this way for month after month. John 4. Romans 5.5 Romans 1.16 and John 14.27. I thought everyone experienced this.
I did, too, will never, ever forget it!!! Such an incredible, tremendous blessing!!!!
Excellent. Thank you. I still cringe 20 years later after spending 10 years in mild word of faith/prosperity churches here in Australia. I left not long after the Toronto Blessing arrived here.
_KUNDALINI IN MOTION_ 🐍
If things are WORSE NOW than they were in the 90s, especially after 2020...what really did these MOVEMENTS DO🤔
Get into the BIBLE, people
I have watched y’all’s videos on The Toronto Blessing, The Lakeland revival and now the Brownsville revival, and while I do agree that we need to test all things, and that there were very strange things that took place at these revivals I do have a question that maybe someone can address.
If demonic spirits are behind these revivals why would they be leading people closer to Jesus? Why would their love for the Lord increase after being touched by the Holy Spirit if that’s not what’s really happening.
Demonic spirits would never lead people into a closer relationship with Jesus. I don’t understand what the enemy gains from it if it is truly him behind it.
This is EXACTLY IT!!!! Examine the FRUIT! That's what the people who've made this video need acknowledge!!! "Slain in the Spirit" IS in the Holy Bible!!!!! I believe I read it in the book of John.
Wow ..some people wouldn't know a move of God if it hit them in the head
Keep ‘em coming! Agree with the Longs 100%. A couple weeks ago heard another UA-cam channel with first-hand experience there claiming Steve Hill was something I don’t see on this video evidence you have. Glad it was captured on video.
I’ve always thought, if we need revival so much, why aren’t we on our faces before God taking in His Word and being in communion with Him? Wouldn’t that revive you if you could truly pray to God and enjoy the fullness of Him through His Word? 2 Peter 1:3…”His divine power has given us EVERYTHING we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of Him who called us.” That everything doesn’t make we weary for some emotional and fabricated “more” which is actually “less” than the fullness of the Word.
After being Orthodox for 30 years any other church I go to for a wedding or funeral is like A Dr going back to his 10th grade biology class. Orthodoxy has the fullness of the truth where other churches have a lot or basically nothing. All I learned that was positive in the Church of God of Cleveland, TN was the trinity. The rest was useless garbage!
Its amazing what this 30 year old stuff looks like through a modern lens. There was no internet back then, so no critical examination. How Michael Brown still stands behind it is mind boggling.
There was internet but it wasn't mainstream, and there were preachers warning people against this movement.
I am so grateful that Jesus is enough.
Me too!!!!!
I have a friend who attended Brownsville AG and was there June 18, 1995. She said it was real. The leadership had been praying for revival for 2 years. I asked about Bro Kilpatrick being held down and she said yes; also asked about the “river” (power of Holy Spirit) that flowed across the altar area…yes. She did say that after a period of time…not sure on time frame…that some people began to call it “their revival”. And, yes, David Wilkerson spoke out against such things. In the biography written by his son Gary Wilkerson…who, by the way, said his father would have never consented to a book written about his life while he was alive…said his father wanted habitation not visitation of the Spirit. I believe this revival started out authentic but, man got in the way. To me true revival is not shouting and physical manifestations but, it a stirring of the heart to get closer to Yeshua.
To answer to why they would say they weren’t satisfied. It wasn’t that salvation of lost souls wasn’t enough, they wanted a deeper relationship with Yeshua. I’ve even prayed the same thing myself…longing for more of Yeshua. Please don’t judge what they were saying as wrong. Bro Kilpatrick was hungry for more of Yeshua. It’s like being married and wanting to know your spouse even better. As far as I know….thats not a sin. I, an AG from birth, don’t believe that manifestations are important to experience the Holy Spirit. And I do not agree with running from “revival to revival” for a deeper relationship with Yeshua. That is what you can receive in your prayer closet and from Bible study. DW preached against running from place to place. Read his book “Hungry for more of Jesus”.
Great program! Thank you. God bless you. I love what Justin Peters says, “if you want to hear from God read the Bible; if you want to hear Him speak audibly, read it out loud.” Hebrews 11:6. “But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.” Romans 1:17 “For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.” Romans 10:17 “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” What these people are seeking (for whatever reason) is “proof” or a “sign” or a “demonstration” to satisfy their flesh. Jesus said in Matthew 16:4. “A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas.” And he left them, and departed.
Amen! God bless you sister. Jesus Christ is Lord!
While those people may or may not be seeking a sign, we are called to be vessels of the mind of G. d. We are the body of G. d and Je. sus is our mind/head. That mind is supposed to be supernaturally revealed from G. d, and that perfect revelation that Peter received is the heart and foundation of everything that pertains to the ch. rch. G. d IS perfect revelation (1 John 1:5; Rev. 21::23)
The mind of G. d and his thoughts is ALL there is or can be. ALL the emotion, intensity, sensation, understanding, and experience in the world is happening within his mind. G. ds personal emotions, sensations, understanding, perspectives, passion, willpower, desires, and identity is infinite. That living light wants to FULLY live through us(Ephes 3:19, 4:13; Col. 2:9-10)
So, there are some people who want a supernatural amount of the mind of Chr: st. They want to have perpetually increasing superhuman joy, peace, patience, purity, passion, humility, creativity, understanding, faith, hope and love.
The scripture records that our actions are worthless if we do them without love(1 Cor. 13:2-3). So, super human love is better than natural human love.
We need as Christians to stand up and proclaim the truth of the True Gospel ❤
who has the truth out of 40,000 denominations in America alone? Orthodoxy is the church that can trace our bishops back to the apostles and also gave us the bible and our creeds. Read church history for yourself. Liturgy is beautiful and centered around the partaking of our Lord's precious blood & body every Liturgy!
I was really hoping to see this on your channel! It's hard to take Michael Brown seriously today when you see his younger self screaming "Fire! Fire! Fire! fire tunnel!" and running around the church. I was once a charismatic and I remember watching these videos before UA-cam was a thing. It was so confusing and hard to understand what was happening to them. I have a better understanding now and am so grateful to be out of that! Thanks Dan and Robin!
The Longs aren't right about everything. Revivals like Brownsville and Toronto aren't that easy to fake or they'd be happening all the time.
@@jamiejay7633 It appears that all you can do is copy and paste your replies
@@mmpapabear5150 I'm looking for intelligent response but it's not happening with you lol
@@jamiejay7633 it may not be fake, it could be truly happening but is demonic. However, one thing is clear: it is not a move of God.
@@nekochan2656 Do you believe in encounters with the Holy Spirit and anointing? I don't believe this revival was demonic! It pushed people towards the Lord! Are Christians going to hell if they have theological errors?
These people in this alleged move of the Spirit claim they "feel' love like they never had before. but Hindus claim the same feeling while they worship Shiva for example. Apparently, demons can instill overwhelming feelings of love as well. Feelings obviously can be deceiving and not to be trusted.
Exactly, they must think that love is a mushy feeling.
Instead of the real manifestations of the Holy Spirit,
They reject and have contempt for what is truly God's nature
And truth which is the Word.
Galatians 5:22-24
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts
1 Corinthians 13
4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth:
If this was a staged event, we need to plan more meetings like this then. Many many missionary works and churches came out of this work of God.
AMEN, WELL SAID!!! Many Evangelists, etc. came out of this Revival also!
Let’s just consider why John Kilpatrick is trying to convince everyone that he wants more of whatever…
It should be most obvious that here is this man showing everyone just how pious and how extra Uber holy he is,and a step and a half above the rest, and so many light years ahead because he is seeking God and shouting at him on the front row of the empty church at 4am in his skivvies - and crying out. It wasn’t good enough for him to be just at home, and it wasn’t good enough for him to be doing this in secret… No he had to notify everybody about what he did. He needs to be elevated and so he does it all for the accolades that he will receive. This is his reward.
I really don’t see much of a difference between John Kilpatrick and the man in scripture praying like the Pharisees on the street corner so that they’ll be noticed giving these long winded prayers.
John Kilpatrick does not have a heart for God, no… He has a heart for self. That’s exactly why he’s up there trying to glorify himself. That’s why he’s there to explain to everybody just how close he is with God and that he’s got the inside scoop. He just received his reward… The accolades and the praise of men.
Well said!
Yes. We’re not enough. But when we find God we realize the order. He wants more. He wants to be like God. That’s what it is. He is all about himself. He is a lover of self
I love how you include your wife. She’s a lovely lady
I've done the rounds of quietly or loudly wailing and crying out to God for 'more' . I'm having to learn to accept that I have all that I need in Christ . I can't have anymore of God than I already have . I do need though more revelation of that fact .
What he needed was to practice the patience that is part of the fruit of the Holy Spirit .
I speak for myself too .
And the said 'dry seasons' we go through is when faith really goes to work .
I seem to be in a perpetual 'dry season' when it comes to 'feeling' any presence of God .
Especially when I have few if any Christians around me to connect with physically and/ or spiritually.
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I believe both of you are complimenting each other’s direction from GOD on this issue. Great points and we NEED this thank you!
There’s nothing wrong with wanting more of the Lord!
read the Word of God and pray...walk in faith... God will always give us what we need!
It does seem odd that the very people who claim to have the power and gifts of the Holy Spirit more than any other church group weren't satisfied with their experience of the Spirit living with them 24 hours a day. I actually remember my charismatic church hearing about the Brownsville revival breaking out and then every week after that my church tried to make the same manifestations happen in our church as they heard about happening everywhere else. Over time I became increasingly uncomfortable with the fact that they were trying to make the spirit do tricks for us. That's of course not how they said it and that's not how they meant it but to me that's what was really going on as if they had to conjure up the spirit to do these signs and wonders to prove that they were just as spiritual and "in the rivers of the Holy Spirit" as the church in Brownsville. That's when I began to wake up that they somehow thought they were missing God or God wasn't with us if we didn't have the same signs breakout among us. My thought was: wasn't God with us everyday and minute especially if you believe he's omnipotent and gave you his Spirit? Eventually I was led out into a wonderful new community of mature and solid Christians and learned to read the word of God deeply and widely. Yes, just as you show in these videos, they were trying to prepare the audience for "something to happen" but I was so much more satisfied by reading the Word and learning about God from it.
More of what? To know Him more... closer walk with Christ.
I watched a video on the Kundalini spirit. What an eye opener! It looks just like these Charismatuc churches. They start out dancing and jumping up and down, then laughing like crazy, shaking, rolling on the floor, speaking in toungues. It really vreeped me out cuz i had been in a charismatic church. I came out.
Grew up in the WOF version of this stuff. Had hands laid on me probably 100 times. Never “fell out.” Always wondered why….now I believe it was because of Gods preserving grace at work in me. I praise Him for it.
There is zero reference to this nonsense in scripture, especially as some kind of zap-it version of microwave sanctification.
The grace of sanctification worked in the lives of Gods people is a long term process. And in that long term work God conforms us to the image of Christ thru repentance and the mortification of our sin.
"Slain in the Spirit IS in the Bible"!!!!!!!! I believe it's in the book of John where I read it.
Thank you for this video! I had never thought about the idea of "grooming" before, but it makes so much sense! Growing up in this movement, I would only be interested in hearing the Pastor's experiences or miracle stories as I thought it was what built up my faith. How deceiving. The Word of God was totally neglected or twisted, people came to hear the "testimonies" and stories expecting to be touched by God as well.
Steve Hill said “something I rarely do… Is open up my Bible. “
Truth be told - he kind of said the quiet part out loud
Yes, hypnotic, hyped. Hysteria,
But didn't he say that in reference to "opening your Bible" to "get a Word from the Lord", such as many do??? Please don't take it out of context!
@@repentjesusiscomingsoon1529
Nope.
What you’re missing is that this IS the context in which he was using. You’re making a distinction without a difference because a word from the Lord is still a word from the Lord. Therefore one has to conclude that some “prophetic word “ that supposedly comes from God… would actually have to carry the same authority as any word from scripture. The two are inseparable.
So to tow that line and try to make some sort of distinction between a word from God versus a word from God… It’s not only committing the error of cheapening the authority of scripture… wow concluding that God‘s word in scripture is insufficient…, But it’s completely unbiblical in its application of some inner impression that does not come from God by lifting it up to the same level as scripture.
Ultimately, you seem to have an inaccurate disparagement with the sufficiency of scripture in your mishandling of what is deemed as coming from the Lord.
I would beg to differ with what people refer to as a word from the Lord today, for it certainly does not come from the Lord but comes from inside them self and their own imagination.
How can God’s word be separated from scripture? It can’t be, so do not attempt to divorce God’s word from God’s word. When you attempt to slander me like this, you commit the same error as this false teacher whom you’re defending by assuming that I was taking this man out of context. His error is making the assumption that God‘s word is somehow separate from scripture.
2 Peter 1:19-21
“So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.”
Do you want to hear a word from the Lord… It’s inside your Bible… Not inside your brain as some inner impression, not some feeling or liver shiver… But exclusively from God’s written word which He recorded and preserved for us. So don’t take scripture out of context lest you be like Satan. But this is precisely what you do when you try to make a distinction without a difference about a word from the Lord with reference to scripture.
Let me encourage you to repent. Jesus IS coming soon.
Let me also encourage you to find a better UA-cam handle… Maybe like - I don’t know… Your name. That way you’re not hiding behind some pious UA-cam handle that ultimately does not reflect accurately your theology but rather brings a repproach upon the name of Christ.
I can’t begin to tell you how many times someone like yourself who wishes to make a good showing in the flesh, attempts to correct others thought they themselfs have an biblical point of view, and they attempt to exhault themselves with some title rather than use their name. Typically it’s these kind who refuse to rightly handle scripture. This is a shameful thing.
And so it goes with saying… REPENT, Jesus is coming SOON.
@@jeremiahyeo5863 Sir, I'm praying right now that you gain wisdom!!! I'm 77 years old, been saved since I was a kid and I'm an evangelist for the Lord. Sorry, but I do know what I'm speaking of. God bless and may He open your heart.
Hie Word comes alive for me to this very day...I’ve had dry spells where I stopped reading for a few days. Boy, talk about getting sadder. (Course, I am still healing from osteoporosis, with 9 fractures down my back.) still making me cry...but, I’m getting my garden in. Amazing how alive His Word is. Jesus is all I need. (Though friends call now and then helps too. 😉)
I experienced something l like that when I was about 10 years old with my mom everybody said she had a nervous break down There where 10 kids in my family we. Where taken by the state and put into foster care I lived next door to my parent’s My mother used to watch these type of preachers Prosperity types This kind of preacher can destroy a family
Yes I was brought up in this too
When Steve Hill had the Hindu "occult touch" [that is what it was] he fell down because of hypnotic suggestion. He saw all the people on the floor and he believed that when Sandy Miller touched him, he would have an experience and fall down too. So when he received the touch on his forehead, it happened as he expected through the self hypnotic suggestion. This was what was going on at Brownsville. Those who went forward for prayer believed that the "touch from God' would result in an experience, and that is exactly what happened. It was all of the flesh through the fleshly hunger for a sensory experience.
Wow that's all I'll say wow you people are whacked
"Slain in the Spirit" IS in the Holy Bible!!!!!!!! I believe I read about it in the book of John, check it out.
Hallelujah somebody said it!!!
There’s no need for so called revival. Jesus said it is finished.
He came into us already. He already said go preach!
I feel so sad because my husband 100% believes in these revivals. He attended a church in Kansas City that is all about "revival." Yet since I went to that church I never once heard the gospel preached. Not once has anyone said open your bibles. It's all about what the spirit is doing, being slain in the spirit and speaking in tongues. Yet ironically a child who grew up in the movement later stated as an adult that it was all fabricated. My husband claims he would die for the experiences he has had there. When I go I feel more and more depressed because I'm not "touched by God." I believe the only touch I needed from God was the opening of my eyes and heart to know that the Gospel of Christ was true. I've now since said I don't want to go and he says I don't believe in the power of God. I do but not man made manifestations.
I love how well documented your videos are!
I have and can feel the presence of the Holyspirit rise in situations praying for people and being prayed for I don’t know about falling out but my legs would shake and make it hard to talk sometimes so shaky .. I remember first time I got prayed for it was so heavy and like electric (for lack of better word) now sometimes when I pray for people and lay hands they will get wobbly legs and shakey and sweat a lot .. Holyspirit is amazing
I was in this mess and so glad the Lord has opened my eyes to this. Had to ask for forgiveness from the Lord for being deceived.
Did you go there in person? What did you think of Steve Hill, John Kilpatrick and Lindell Cooley?
My sister in law attended these “revivals” and because of these teachings she refused to follow up with her doctors for her post breast cancer surgery treatments. This ended up killing her. My brother, her husband was an Assembly of God Pastor.
I think it’s a shame that all the people that got saved (I know some) and people who received the baptism of the Holy Spirit are being told now that’s it’s false. I don’t believe it’s false, I know people who were changed by this revival. I think sometimes we want to put down everyone who disagrees with your view of what should be church. I’m not saying there aren’t charlatans (Todd Bentley) but to say all
These revivals are false is just wrong.
I agree with you. I attended this revival two different times. I did not experience any of the manifestations myself, however, I saw many others who did and having been a Christian for 68 years now I know the Spirit of God when I encounter Him and believe me He was real in this revival and people's lives. And on the contrary, I feel nothing but a judgemental spirit with these two people and a lack of rightly deviding the Word of God. Read the book of Acts slowly word for word, if you don't believe the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is for us today and a different work from the Holy Spirit that draws us to Christ. Jesus himself said He, the Spirit had been with them but shall be in you. Peter said on the day of Pentecost, "this promise is to you, your children, those that are afar off, even as many as the Lord God shall call". I think that pretty well takes in everybody. After, Pentecost the Apostles found other believers and asked them had they received the Holy Ghost since they believed, and their reply was, we haven't heard if there be such a thing. Then the Apostles laid hands on them and they received the gift of the Holy Ghost and all spoke in other tongues. Our Dear Brother Paul said that he spoke in tongues more than you all. Now having said all that, I will be the first to admit that the devil loves to get Into every revival or move of God and try to counterfeit and corrupt it. But, oooh, I wouldn't want to stand in your shoes on judgment day. Jesus, himself said let the tares grow with the wheat and he would gather them and cast them in the fire. I pray that you both will see the truth of God's word and quit judging the Saint's of God that you know nothing about.
@@glendagales6690 You are right. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is for us today. I have a comment on here about it. I received that in 1979 as a new Christian in the presence of my own home. And a prayer language at church. There is a counterfeit from Satan working in the world and it's so sad that many because of that....don't think this is real or for today. It was real after Pentecost and it is also real now. Praise the Lord
these false preachers are ALL walking in the flesh, while using "Gezuz Wirds"...the pronunciation is the same but the meaning is completely different. false false false
Good to hear your opinion. My life was changed by this event. God was already working in my life. These services allowed me to see how serious we must take our relationship with God. Looking back much of it was experience and emotion based. I believe God used this time in my life. My experience was not so bad while others in comments speak of terrible things that happened. I'm eager to hear more from people on this subject. It will help bring clarity to this time in my life.
@@glendagales6690 WELL SAID!!! Glenda, I completely agree with your take on this!!! 100%
“I’ll take orchestrated for $200” Priceless!
No one, no thing can EVER take away or buy away what I know that I know God did in my life at this revival. I was completely healed, delivered and set free from multiple things. I knew the leadership long before the revival ever happened- and they are genuine and authentic and will also tell you that not everything at the revival was of God. Anyone who points a finger at what God did in many, many, many of us as a result … and is still doing - should be very careful.
I give you folks so much credit. It's not easy to leave a church you're involved in, all your friends are there and you certainly receive animosity from people. You're critical thinkers and realized something wasn't right. The true Holy Spirit should be working inside of people who are faking and mocking Apostolic gifts to convict them of what they're doing. I have to wonder if they're even saved.
I found this so informative and to the point with no distractions and the right length. Thank you both for a well put together talk.
In the mid 90s we left an Anglican Church - we’re in the Uk- for an evangelical church and later heard the church we left had received “the blessing” and all kinds of weird things going on: people barking like dogs, rolling around on the ground etc. You’ve exposed the background to the so called “blessing”.
Also, tragic how people like RT Kendall were influenced by Rodney Howard-Brown. We went to Westminster Chapel in London where RT was minister before all this happened and he preached sound sermons then.
I am convinced that the church does need more, but it is not what their teaching in this revival. The more is The Word of God, studying it, and applying it to our own lives. Another thing that we need more of is The LOVE of God, that is the LOVe of rHim and the love of our neighbors, that is what is missing in many churches. These are the things that should want more of.
I went to Brownsville around 1997 for the first time. Then after that, maybe 100 times. The evangelistic messages by Steve Hill were instrumental in me rededicating my life to Jesus. The services i attended were powerful. I was a baby Christian so I did not know the bible that well at all. My life did turn around. I believe God was already working in my life and somehow used this, maybe, to get me going into he right direction. Looking back on theses times now, I can see how it was not balanced. How, much of it was emotion and experienced based. Now I can see how wanting more can be a deceptive feeling. This can give someone a feeling of being discontent when life gets mundane. Not every thing can always be fun and exciting in this life. It was good for me to see this video you both put together. I look forward to seeing future videos on this subject.
I followed the revival and this ministry for about 15 years. Meaning, I followed the main pastor to the new church he started. If anyone has in questions I can try to answer them.
Glad your life was redirected to Jesus
@ well, no need. God had infinitely more grace and love for you and... There is no condemnation for those that are in Christ.
@ I agree about being a new Christian. I would never send some one into this environment that didn't know the Word. I did hear alot of scripture taught that I had never been exposed to. This led me to reading my Bible. Later, I came across another ministry that taught the Bible line by line. This really changed everything for me. Chasing experiences leads to disaster. The idea that you are always one service away from some miraculous break through is toxic.
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC You are right. Most Christian TV is for entertainment purposes. Right before my visit to Brownsville I was desperate to get out of a terrible situation I was in. I turned on TBN but no power and no gospel just entertainment. I did hear the power of the gospel at Brownsville. Overall it was God leading me.
And don't forget Rodney Howard Brown pointing his finger up at God and saying "If you don't come down here I'm going to come up there."
I was at the Brownsville Revival for 3 days in July 1997 a full 2 years after it started. I saw the incredible power of the Holy Spirit at work like I have never seen before or since. Most of you doubters just flat do not know of what you speak for “for if this plan or this work is of men, it will come to nothing; but if it is of God, you cannot overthrow it-lest you even be found to fight against God.” Acts 5:38-39. It was real. I will say that until the day I die. Stop fighting against God.
AMEN, WELL SAID, AND I CONCUR!!!!!!! Brownsville was "the real thing"!!!!!!!!
For Charismatics, by definition the Word in not enough. A relationship with the Lord is not enough, these people need "signs and wonders" .