@@victoriacyunczyk Most started closing the cab cars to the general public, and I was doing a small clip out of the front window and one of the conductors came over and said they don't allow it anymore. Something because someone got hit from the train and someone else was filming out the front window from what I been told.
@@NBVideosPresents Rather odd reasoning. Such a clip might actually exonerate the RR. Then again, people can be irresponsible and upload things they shouldn't.
Greetings from India. A nice journey. Brings back memories from the time I used to visit Chicago. Twice took the Metra train on two trips to Chicago, from Barrington to Chicago Union station. Took an hour exactly on the train.👍👍
I'm a freight conductor for UP, soon I'll be collecting tickets from you on that train. A lot of people don't know that those conductors and engineers are UP employees at the Ogilvie transportation center. We're contracted by Metra.
Cool! That is something a lot of people don't know, that is true (me being one of them lol). I did had the feeling though that most of the crew that operate the trains on the UP lines were from UP itself, with them being either conductors, or engineers. Guess we'll run into each other on a train someday ;)
@@_Matthew_D From the 'engineers' cab, that is basically impossible unless you are a corp. train film maker.... While I won't say its prohibited, the problem is, they kept the front car off to the public on most of the lines, so its impossible to get a cab ride from the front door in anymore.
Great video - thanks - brings back memories of when this was called the Chicago & North Western (built with British money hence the reason the trains run on the tracks on the "English" system).
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. So what's why UP / Metra still drive on the left hand side on this line, thanks for the info on that as I didn't know it was built with British money.
The Original GTR Grand Truck Railway was also run on the opposite side and I believe some railroads had the unique guage of 5'6" instead of the standard 4'8.5" Today almost all of North America's railroads especially Canada and the United States are very well intergraded especially for Freight operations. Chicago is the Biggest Hub of operations and the Biggest Bottleneck of freight trains.
Thanks for the video!! Allowed me to revisit my past trips to work in downtown Chicago from 1978 to 1989, but only a few days every week as I was a field rep. The timetable I have for this Northwest Line, dated April 1, 1977, shows the fare to Chicago from Harvard was $2.65 one way and a monthly pass cost $71.55 then. My trip was limited to Arlington Park and I took the express most of the time. My nephew currently rides in from Crystal Lake 5 days a week. I could never do that. UP apparently continued the Northwestern's British Right of Way (Drive on the left) shown in this video. A few US Railroads did that. It is a lesson to never turn your back on a railroad line for thinking they all follow US Rules of the Road---they don't.
Nice lol. Harvard to Chicago is a long trip. I mean really long. When I was making I was expecting it to be close to 2.5 hours long, but it seems things was smooth so I'm glad it ended up being 1.5 hours long. Glad you enjoy it
@@NBVideosPresents Harvard is now north end of service. They used to run all the way to Lake Geneva (and through it) to Walworth, Wisconsin, about another 30-35 miles. And some did the commute t o Chicago every day.
Thank you, glad to hear you enjoyed the video. With the Cubes games, that's when they need more trains, I'm guessing to help try help reduce traffic. With CTA trains, that isn't plan yet as permits are needed to it on CTA's property unless its from public areas (e.g. streets)
Thank you, yeah it will be as I can't read half of them from the video, that'll be why I didn't added them With the station names, I just went by the schedule for the line and I do know the line as I don't live too far from it
Unfortunately, seven of the kids on the bus were killed. The bus was stopped at a traffic light at the intersection of Algonquin Road and Northwest Highway. The driver was unaware that the back of the bus was overhanging the track.
Ah, that from my view wasn't the smartest move to make, especially when there was an oncoming train. I'm going to guess that the kids tried to tell the driver (or maybe not) that the bus was over the tracks and the driver didn't believe or didn't had any room to move forward. Still sad to hear overall
Is this the longest Metra route or the Milwaukee Line that runs along Lake Michigan? I'm just curious? I took the Harvard line once for a birthday. From Chicago to Harvard. Then back to Chicago. I would like to ride the Milwaukee line along Lake Michigan. Or Amtrak? I ride the Metra Electric District Line.
Yes, this is the longest route Metra has, and what makes it more longer are from the station stops the trains make, as they stop at all the stations basically. I took the Milwaukee line, and while it's shorter, you see more trains than the Harvard line.
@@NBVideosPresents It might be something to explore in the future. Besides seeing Ravinia, Six Flags, and Illinois State Beach near the old power plant in Zion.
Only the UP trains runs on the left side ;) Reason behind it was from the Chicago and Northwestern days where they ran left handed so UP continued with the tradition of left hand operations rather than switching it over to the right hand operations (at least for the Chicago area and the Geneva Sub).
If I'm understanding this correctly, its a combonation of both Federal Railroad Administration and the community. Once the community sends enough complaints in, then the Federal Railroad Administration will establish the quiet zones.
@@NBVideosPresents nice! The freight traffic is picking up again! You can probably catch a freight every Monday, Wednesday and Friday on this line! Normally a grain train or local
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I tried to get other cab rides on other Metra routes, but Metra started to close the cab car to the public (they been doing this before the virus started).
Nice and I was Thinking about doing this On the MD-N and UP-N Lines I try Doing this sometime on the Weekend and I did a Complete Ride on Eurostar Between Brussells and London St Pancras International which will be Released on 6/13/17
Thank you Patrick, I didn't know I was going to be doing one until I got on the train and decided why not try it? This line is the closest to my area, and its not the best since there are hardly any trains, especially on weekends, but never know. Hope maybe you can give it a shot
Ok and The Hardest Train Route on Round Trip for me is the UP-N Line and On the MD-N I will try doing the Cab ride fore you But I will be careful since some trains don't have cab cars open and Do you want to see the Complete Ride between Brussels and London when it gets uploaded?
Well, I'm not sure if you know how Metra works, but this was made from the connection door that other cars are connected to. The actual cab unit is above me, but it does look like it was made from the cab itself. I'll try to make time to watch your cab videos when its up
I'm only 23 minutes in so far, but how fast is this train travelling? Over here in GB we don't have many long straight lines like this, but where we do we tend to tear along them at somewhere between 90 and 110 mph. Are your trains just so big and long, they need engines with muscle rather than speed?
I would say at most 55mph in some areas. No, I won't say the the reason for slow moving trains. The main reason is, by the time the train reaches the max speed, it'll need to start slowing down because it's approaching the station, and most are only a few miles apart (since it is a commuter train). As for freight, they can go up to 60mph, but the average is 55mph.
I've reached journey's end! As the train's pulling into the station I noticed a CTA pulling along in the background and I don't know why this thought struck me at that moment. The CTA keeps to the right, but this one is on the left track all the way. Do all the long distance 'heritage' lines still run on the left?
@@larrywharf1583 congrats at making it to the end! Hmm, I don't think I understand the CTA part, but for most of their system,they are right handed (aka right track) for their routes. As for the can ride, not all are left track, just certain ones. In this video, UP purchased the CNW railway, which operated on the left track, and instead of re-signaling the ex-CNW tracks, they just left it and operate as-is. Hopefully it'll answer your question, or at least give you an idea of the setup.
@@iemv8900 If it wasn't for emergency purposes, the engineer can get in trouble for railroad policy, or with the law depending on how strict they are for blowing the horn.
@@NBVideosPresents they can sound the horn when there is a meet going on at a crossing to warn the engineer on the other train they are not dimming there headlights because there is a crossing! They also can blow at at railfanners for fun if they want to!
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@@NBVideosPresents also I made my own time lapse from my own footage of the metra electric district and also a user has been harassing me to re-upload that video and has sent copyright strike threats. The users name is creeper of fun RAUTTP so can I have permission to re-upload that video if not can you help me deal with that user ua-cam.com/channels/2b1p5vnJL6euMR6UYYP0dQ.html
No wonder Metra has so many accidents. DING DING DING "Honey whats that dinging sound?" SMASH. use a whistle so a car can hear you. I always called Metra the Ding a ling railway cuz all their trains do is ding ding ding. you might as well just remove the horns from the engines because apparently the engineer doesn't know how to press the button or follow FRA regulations. I don't even understand how people on the Electric line manage not to go nuts. all you hear is the damn bell for over an hour. I was actually reading that Northwestern Railway was the only backwards railway in the US. All their signals are on set for left track running, not right. Apparently it was to expensive to change sides so they just kept it.
UPDATE - Metra recently no longer allows recording from the front / end of the train.
Are they closing the cab cars or are they going after photographers?
@@victoriacyunczyk Most started closing the cab cars to the general public, and I was doing a small clip out of the front window and one of the conductors came over and said they don't allow it anymore. Something because someone got hit from the train and someone else was filming out the front window from what I been told.
@@NBVideosPresents Rather odd reasoning. Such a clip might actually exonerate the RR. Then again, people can be irresponsible and upload things they shouldn't.
@@victoriacyunczyk yep
They allow it now! My friend did a few weeks ago!
Greetings from India. A nice journey. Brings back memories from the time I used to visit Chicago. Twice took the Metra train on two trips to Chicago, from Barrington to Chicago Union station. Took an hour exactly on the train.👍👍
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video
Doesn’t barrington station 🚉 go to Union?
I'm a freight conductor for UP, soon I'll be collecting tickets from you on that train. A lot of people don't know that those conductors and engineers are UP employees at the Ogilvie transportation center. We're contracted by Metra.
Cool! That is something a lot of people don't know, that is true (me being one of them lol). I did had the feeling though that most of the crew that operate the trains on the UP lines were from UP itself, with them being either conductors, or engineers.
Guess we'll run into each other on a train someday ;)
@@NBVideosPresents we sure will, continue to railfan safely.
@@armageddon1981 I will. Take care
@@NBVideosPresents Any chance of getting a true cab car cab ride or is that strictly prohibited?
@@_Matthew_D From the 'engineers' cab, that is basically impossible unless you are a corp. train film maker....
While I won't say its prohibited, the problem is, they kept the front car off to the public on most of the lines, so its impossible to get a cab ride from the front door in anymore.
I love this video. Years ago, I used to work in Cary IL with the office opposite side of Northwest Highway from the Cary Metra station
Great video - thanks - brings back memories of when this was called the Chicago & North Western (built with British money hence the reason the trains run on the tracks on the "English" system).
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. So what's why UP / Metra still drive on the left hand side on this line, thanks for the info on that as I didn't know it was built with British money.
You're welcome. That funding was in the 1840s and 1850s, by the way.
Thanks for the year of the funding. Its still pretty interesting how this line got its start and where all the funding came from
The Original GTR Grand Truck Railway was also run on the opposite side and I believe some railroads had the unique guage of 5'6" instead of the standard 4'8.5" Today almost all of North America's railroads especially Canada and the United States are very well intergraded especially for Freight operations. Chicago is the Biggest Hub of operations and the Biggest Bottleneck of freight trains.
Its interesting how railroads have their unique systems of operations
Good memories, I sure do miss riding the Metra everytime I go to my dad's since he moved out last fall.
Agree, Metra is always fun to ride
Good memories you got. I still ride Metra in some occasions.
Thanks for the video!! Allowed me to revisit my past trips to work in downtown Chicago from 1978 to 1989, but only a few days every week as I was a field rep. The timetable I have for this Northwest Line, dated April 1, 1977, shows the fare to Chicago from Harvard was $2.65 one way and a monthly pass cost $71.55 then. My trip was limited to Arlington Park and I took the express most of the time. My nephew currently rides in from Crystal Lake 5 days a week. I could never do that. UP apparently continued the Northwestern's British Right of Way (Drive on the left) shown in this video. A few US Railroads did that. It is a lesson to never turn your back on a railroad line for thinking they all follow US Rules of the Road---they don't.
Fox River Grove to Ogilvie for me for work, I thought that was a long trip, but from Harvard...wow
Nice lol. Harvard to Chicago is a long trip. I mean really long. When I was making I was expecting it to be close to 2.5 hours long, but it seems things was smooth so I'm glad it ended up being 1.5 hours long.
Glad you enjoy it
@@NBVideosPresents Harvard is now north end of service. They used to run all the way to Lake Geneva (and through it) to Walworth, Wisconsin, about another 30-35 miles. And some did the commute t o Chicago every day.
I like riding this line because it is so "Country" Harvard is so close to Wisconsin you feel like you are IN Wisconsin. Thanks for the video
Your welcome, glad you enjoyed the video
the UP-N line goes to kenosha, Wi. but a good number of the trains terminate in waukegan, Il, a few stops back.
It does feel like you're in Wisconsin. The Union Pacific West Line has a little bit of a country feel to it as well.
please make more of these videos I love them
I will try to :)
Decades ago, my father commuted on this line from Cumberland Road station in Des Plaines when it was operated by Chicago and Northwestern Railroad
173 has been rebuilt and is a repaint now
Harvard is very far between Harvard and Woodstock is around 7 or 8 miles
Awesome video man, I saw lots of Metras in Chicago when I went to the Cubs game, don't forget the CTA Subways
Thank you, glad to hear you enjoyed the video. With the Cubes games, that's when they need more trains, I'm guessing to help try help reduce traffic. With CTA trains, that isn't plan yet as permits are needed to it on CTA's property unless its from public areas (e.g. streets)
I agree there were so many subways and Metras, I saw 20 subways and 6 Metras
And I did catch my first Citirail
Nice
Yep man it sure is :)
24:42 that 3rd track is the track that goes to Mchenry
Are people alowed were you are recording
Neat!! Definitely do more if you can!
Thank you, I'll try my best to make these cab ride videos
Outstanding video! Very realistic, and thanks for the station names! Would it be difficult to add the mile post numberson the screen?
Thank you, yeah it will be as I can't read half of them from the video, that'll be why I didn't added them
With the station names, I just went by the schedule for the line and I do know the line as I don't live too far from it
what time did this train arrive at Ogilvie transportataion center
What is this Nate, awesome, awesome, awesome.. Lucky sweet video, greetings from New Jersey
Thank you Adam, glad you enjoyed the ride
yes, extremely much I did...
:)
you should make more in the future
Thanks mate, I'll try my best to get more videos like this in the future ;)
28:28 my home town
At 33:50, the train crosses Algonquin Road, which is where the collision with the school bus occurred, back in 1995.
That's sad to hear :(
Hope everyone was okay
Unfortunately, seven of the kids on the bus were killed. The bus was stopped at a traffic light at the intersection of Algonquin Road and Northwest Highway. The driver was unaware that the back of the bus was overhanging the track.
Ah, that from my view wasn't the smartest move to make, especially when there was an oncoming train. I'm going to guess that the kids tried to tell the driver (or maybe not) that the bus was over the tracks and the driver didn't believe or didn't had any room to move forward. Still sad to hear overall
Happy new year man
Thanks, you hope you had a great new years
Very epic ride there! I enjoyed all the views. Too bad Metra no longer allows cab rides. :(
Is this the longest Metra route or the Milwaukee Line that runs along Lake Michigan? I'm just curious? I took the Harvard line once for a birthday. From Chicago to Harvard. Then back to Chicago. I would like to ride the Milwaukee line along Lake Michigan. Or Amtrak? I ride the Metra Electric District Line.
Yes, this is the longest route Metra has, and what makes it more longer are from the station stops the trains make, as they stop at all the stations basically. I took the Milwaukee line, and while it's shorter, you see more trains than the Harvard line.
@@NBVideosPresents It might be something to explore in the future. Besides seeing Ravinia, Six Flags, and Illinois State Beach near the old power plant in Zion.
How come Chicago area commuter trains run on the left track, where everyone else runs on the right track?
Only the UP trains runs on the left side ;)
Reason behind it was from the Chicago and Northwestern days where they ran left handed so UP continued with the tradition of left hand operations rather than switching it over to the right hand operations (at least for the Chicago area and the Geneva Sub).
Why doesn’t the engineer blow the whistle at crossings?
They're all quiet / no horn zones
@@NBVideosPresents which are trash like c'mon man quiet zones for what? Trains have horns for a reason you know.
@@d64tv06 I am pretty sure they will make it a law at some point in the future the people who live by tracks will have to deal with it!
The left-hand running gives this away as ex-CNW trackage. Nice to see the UP hasn't converted it over to conventional right main running yet.
I don't think they will anytime soon since it'll be costly with the signals and all of the other track things (mostly signals)
@@NBVideosPresents And all the big stations would have to be moved over. Not gonna happen.
So which has superior Authority: a Town Ordinance (No Horn) oe an FRA Regulation (Horn SHALL BE SOUNDED AT ALL GRADE CROSSINGS)?
If I'm understanding this correctly, its a combonation of both Federal Railroad Administration and the community. Once the community sends enough complaints in, then the Federal Railroad Administration will establish the quiet zones.
Yes the up nw line is a quiet zone
I use this route because my grandma lives close to Harvard
Nice, I don't ride this line that much anymore as there isn't hardly any traffic
@@NBVideosPresents nice! The freight traffic is picking up again! You can probably catch a freight every Monday, Wednesday and Friday on this line! Normally a grain train or local
Do you mind if I use this For Open Rails Train Sim, & Railworks Train Simulator 2019 Please?
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I guess when the weather gets warmer, you'll be railfanning more metra huh
That's the plan, can't guaranteed it though..
Did you try getting the kenosha division
I tried to get other cab rides on other Metra routes, but Metra started to close the cab car to the public (they been doing this before the virus started).
@@NBVideosPresents oh
@@NBVideosPresents I wonder why
@@oakcreekrailroadproduction3907 Same here
How did you sit in the cab?
I wasn't in the cab, was shot through the front door
I have traveled from Harvard to Union Station. My brother lives in Harvard.
this line goes into OTC not Union Station
Nice and I was Thinking about doing this On the MD-N and UP-N Lines I try Doing this sometime on the Weekend and I did a Complete Ride on Eurostar Between Brussells and London St Pancras International which will be Released on 6/13/17
Thank you Patrick, I didn't know I was going to be doing one until I got on the train and decided why not try it?
This line is the closest to my area, and its not the best since there are hardly any trains, especially on weekends, but never know. Hope maybe you can give it a shot
Ok and The Hardest Train Route on Round Trip for me is the UP-N Line and On the MD-N I will try doing the Cab ride fore you But I will be careful since some trains don't have cab cars open and Do you want to see the Complete Ride between Brussels and London when it gets uploaded?
Well, I'm not sure if you know how Metra works, but this was made from the connection door that other cars are connected to. The actual cab unit is above me, but it does look like it was made from the cab itself.
I'll try to make time to watch your cab videos when its up
ok
metrabnsf rails on the MD lines and really anything other then the three UP lines, the cab car will PROBABLY be locked.
I'm only 23 minutes in so far, but how fast is this train travelling? Over here in GB we don't have many long straight lines like this, but where we do we tend to tear along them at somewhere between 90 and 110 mph. Are your trains just so big and long, they need engines with muscle rather than speed?
I would say at most 55mph in some areas.
No, I won't say the the reason for slow moving trains. The main reason is, by the time the train reaches the max speed, it'll need to start slowing down because it's approaching the station, and most are only a few miles apart (since it is a commuter train).
As for freight, they can go up to 60mph, but the average is 55mph.
I've reached journey's end! As the train's pulling into the station I noticed a CTA pulling along in the background and I don't know why this thought struck me at that moment. The CTA keeps to the right, but this one is on the left track all the way. Do all the long distance 'heritage' lines still run on the left?
@@larrywharf1583 congrats at making it to the end!
Hmm, I don't think I understand the CTA part, but for most of their system,they are right handed (aka right track) for their routes.
As for the can ride, not all are left track, just certain ones. In this video, UP purchased the CNW railway, which operated on the left track, and instead of re-signaling the ex-CNW tracks, they just left it and operate as-is.
Hopefully it'll answer your question, or at least give you an idea of the setup.
Max speed is 79mph
Does Americans ever question the usefulness of that warning bell? Wouldn’t a fully implemented PTC be safer?
No idea, but I sometimes wonder the same thing
i mean metra is getting ptc, the bnsf is already changing its schedule to acommodate it, it will be the first line.
Ah interesting, I wasn't aware of that :/
I guess it'll be interesting to see
Does the cab not have a horn?
They do, but all crossings are quiet zones
@@NBVideosPresents oh. Then what happens if they honk the horn in a quiet zone will they get a fine or lose a rank?
@@iemv8900 If it wasn't for emergency purposes, the engineer can get in trouble for railroad policy, or with the law depending on how strict they are for blowing the horn.
@@NBVideosPresents thx for the educating answers
@@NBVideosPresents they can sound the horn when there is a meet going on at a crossing to warn the engineer on the other train they are not dimming there headlights because there is a crossing! They also can blow at at railfanners for fun if they want to!
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@@NBVideosPresents also I made my own time lapse from my own footage of the metra electric district and also a user has been harassing me to re-upload that video and has sent copyright strike threats. The users name is creeper of fun RAUTTP so can I have permission to re-upload that video if not can you help me deal with that user ua-cam.com/channels/2b1p5vnJL6euMR6UYYP0dQ.html
Lmaooo the explanation of the handmaids tail at the end
Where’s Harvard sub at
Between Chicago, IL and Evansville, WI
Why no horn
They're quiet zones. I don't know the reason why, but that's what I can think of
Because people in illinois are chronic whiners...
There will be a must sound law at some point
i live in woodstock illinois
Nice, Metra all the way :D
1:31:18 what engine is that nice very nice
It's a F40PH freshly painted in what I think is the new paint scheme.
@@NBVideosPresents also a rebuilt, it went from F40PH-2 to -3. I cannot tell the difference between -2 and -3 F40PH lol.
Hold it still
No wonder Metra has so many accidents. DING DING DING "Honey whats that dinging sound?" SMASH. use a whistle so a car can hear you. I always called Metra the Ding a ling railway cuz all their trains do is ding ding ding. you might as well just remove the horns from the engines because apparently the engineer doesn't know how to press the button or follow FRA regulations. I don't even understand how people on the Electric line manage not to go nuts. all you hear is the damn bell for over an hour. I was actually reading that Northwestern Railway was the only backwards railway in the US. All their signals are on set for left track running, not right. Apparently it was to expensive to change sides so they just kept it.
It’s a quiet zone they can sound only in emergencies or when there is a meet
Nice! Metra will do the same thing lol
lol will you be able to do the entire line or just part of it? ;)
Sorry for the late response, it's Metra doing it and the full thing
Okay
just like double decker buses but on rails
Yes - double decker trains are pretty common here ;)
Looks like it might be a great video, but I'm jumpin off .. can't handle the yak of old women!!!
lol, I wish the school group would've moved, but they decided to stay..
Now if it was taken from the cab, then that would've been awesome
Obviously 🙄 you can’t do outbound
No seats were available for the return trip
Haahvid.
Those babbling women add nothing to the entertainment value
Very boring
It is a very boring line...