Do the Greats use “WRONG” technique?
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I also discovered a long time ago that fingering according to "protocol" has a rather inhibiting effect on me. Using film footage and photos, I then really discovered that my heroes, such as Wes, don't seem to care. Not the old bluesmen anyway. Django is a topic all of its own. The hand as part of the body is also motor skills and body awareness. You have to find out which movements you can identify with, and that's where music begins. It's an extensive topic that isn't covered enough in all the textbooks. You have shown an excerpt and a few good applications. Thank you.
Some great points and it’s excellent to see Jim Mullen and Dave Cliff mentioned. Now for episode 2 which focuses on picking and right hand techniques!
Yeah, just do downstrokes m8 ;-) It will be forthcoming. Thanks for commenting, hope all well.
Love it - one of your best videos. Thanks!
I agree with the 3 finger approach and have come to a similar realization recently. And I agree with the shifting and staying out of one position. I tend to think of one position and the position above and below it to be one flexible unit.
Thank-you for teaching me Wes Montgomery's Gm13th arpeggio! I should have learned it 50 years ago, but what the heck...
It’s a good ‘un!
Always the best content. Thank you. From Brooklyn, NY
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Guitar player of more than 5 decades here. I'm a 3-fingered, thumb over man. Tried many times to press the little finger into action, always failed. There are some things where this IS a problem (Heavy Fuel, Dire Straits) but it seems too late for me to change now.
Awesome video
Rodney Jones's Mel Bay book has a lot of insights about building and practicing lines using a technique just a bit broader in scope than what you present. It's not really exactly the 3 finger technique, but inadvertently introduces a ton of useful ideas and techniques for creating left hand solutions - picked-into slides, jumping position, "roll vs independent finger" for those adjacent 4ths, various figures that help with position shifting (things similar to Pat Martino's descending chromatic minor 3rds to move from say VI to III), etc. etc.
It's not the Charlie Christian way, but I think it's a killer resource for breaking 'fusion / 3nps' habits and introduces lots of stuff that's helping me play better bop lines. (As are your Kofi handouts and various videos on this subject!)
(Mini essay intended to help the half dozen or so lost wannabe-boppers who find their way here 😅)
Interstitial re Rodney Jones… I may check it out
What a brilliant lesson. Very similar to what Garrison Fewell says also
Interesting! Someone posted a Tuck Andress video which had the same basic points. Good to know …
I always felt that the 3rd finger had a better tone than pinky on a hammer on. Perhaps it just feels that way… don’t think a listener would notice.
thanks for justifying my bad habits 😂
I had to switch to a grip a lot like this after a left hand/wrist injury (unrelated to guitar but definitely has changed the way I use my hand). I have to be cautious about which micro-movements I allow the hand and wrist to do as anything resembling the twist of a doorknob tends to really hurt
Excellent. Thanks!
there are parts of lines that i use 2 fingers, so much easier. just find what works for you. as well double down strokes, especially when im changing string down
Interesting point. Personally I prefer first second & little fingers because it puts the hand in a better position. It depends on your fingers, surely? Some people have a third finger longer than the middle - mine happens to be shorter.
I think it does depend. I suspect if your hand is smaller that can affect hand position too.
I had to use more pinky in my playing because of the onset of arthritis in my index finger. Reduces amount of work that the index needs to do.
Yeah the same things don’t work for everyone. Another consideration for the 3 fingered thing might be hand size.
Shift (or slur) don’t stretch 🔥🔥🔥
The 'vocal' or 'horn-like' quality you talk about (that comes from sliding and slurring) is part of what makes (good) blues guitar playing so emotionally compelling. Great video. My favorite one of yours so far.
truly great stuff! A "little thing" that makes a huge difference (swing feel, pronunciation, playing behind the beat). Great stuff
Thanks🙏
Let’s guess that if George benson plays like that we should probably assume that it’s Ok.
One would think so….
No such thing as wrong technique. Only technique that works for you or technique that doesn't work for you . Completely depends on the individual. Just look no further than Steve Morse. The way he picks and holds the instrument you'd think it'd be impossible for him to play and yet he's one of the greatest to ever pick up the instrument.
Hubert Käppel talks about this hand position. In a Tonebase video, I believe, he's talking about his early struggles with his left hand; Narciso Yepes advised him to hold his hand like a cellist. He wrote the Classical Guitar Bible (literally).
Does he? I have that book but haven’t looked at it a great deal. I’ll have a look and see what he says. Someone else mentioned Segovia scales with respect to this. EDIT: haha Kappel says it’s a bad book lol.
The needs of classical solo repertoire are obviously very different from that of single note jazz soloing. (But even within CG there’s different requirements for certain pieces.)
@@JazzGuitarScrapbook Right! I'm a classical guitarist, but I've always thought there was great insight in this "blues" hand position. If you look at Lorenzo Micheli, he's one of my favourite players, his hand position is really interesting.
@@isaacbeen2087 I will!