Every time I see a show without Tim or Greg I feel so proud of how far y'all have come individually and as a group. Always a dope cast with Big Tam! Great discussion you guys, ALSO MISSED YA BARRETT WELCOME BACK!!!!
love seeing andy firing on all cylinders. his wit and commentary were on point, so quick. Tam was amazing, love seeing him on but when he's doing From Soft commentary he is on another level.
Elden Ring is my favorite game of all time, and it was my first From Soft game I saw all the way through. I'll never forget my first Elden Ring playthrough, 10/10, easily. Can't wait for the DLC.
Ranni stole a fragment of the rune of death not the entire rune. Maliketh is marikas shadow and he can never betray marika, they are not related in any way.
Absolute killer group of people to get together to talk about this game! Barrett’s personal character story I think exemplifies what makes Elden Ring so special for so many people. You come into Limgrave as a complete stranger, almost a nobody, and it is a hostile world that you set out in full of characters and places and experiences for you to interact with. You can align yourself with these outer gods if you want to, you can interact with whoever you want and see their stories unfold or ignore them completely, it is a living breathing world that will move on without you if you let it. It’s a 10/10 with issues for sure, but it is one of the greatest games ever made. Great episode y’all, so stoked for the DLC!
Omg I love this. When Andy asking Bless about an “enemy at night and Bless says I wait til daytime to fight enemies I’m scared of night” lol too funny. Great podcast episode love Elden Ring and y’all should have more content of ER. ❤️✌🏽
One thing I want from KindaFunny: Focus on the things you love. I've seen you doing reviews with nobody in the panel having finished the game and the review was a huge waste of the viewer's time. But when you talk about stuff you like, such as Elden Ring, well, this content is what I'm here for. Also, try to compartmenatalize the people who are good at specific stuff. For example, Andy and Greg are great at reviews. Paris is great at in-depth analyses. Blessing is a good all-rounder. Snowbike Mike is great for bringing a positive energy to everything. So on and so forth. Use your assets accordingly.
New format continues to be an amazing decision. Love that we now get episodes like this. Incredible lineup for an Elden Ring discussion and a lot of fun to watch. Love you guys 💕
A Parry does not need to result in an attack from the one who parries. It is simply to block an incoming attack. So if it stops an attack but the attacker continues to swing, or you parry and the person falls down, same thing. Still a parry.
This video rules. Elden Ring is my game of the decade so far and I loved this informed, impassioned discussion. Thanks Bless, Tam, Barrett, Andy, and Kev.
I've never been this excited for an Expansion in my 30 years of gaming. It reminds me of some of my favourite expansions like Diablo 2's Lord Of Destruction and Witcher 3's Blood and Wine. Also, FromSoft can do whatever the fuck they want at this point. The have such a strong sense of design for many schools of action based games. Just to think of the fact that Elden Ring was their first proper open world is insane.
Fun fact: The idea of Cyclops came from idiot humans finding the skeletons of ancient Wooly Mammoths that looked like giant one eyed monsters. Likewise, the images of griffins were created from the discovery of Triceratops skeletons, which appeared to have the heads of a bird and the bodies of a beast. Dragons, obviously, were also the imagined perceptions of the bones (and probably preserved corpses) of other dinosaurs that were found over the early centuries of human civilization. This practice continued well into the 18th century before 'proper' scientific classifications of these skeletons were made, instead of just a handful of uneducated randos looking at the things trying to imagine what they were. I mean, people STILL try to pull the same shit in modern times, and a lot of the prevalent sideshow acts of the 20th century still contained mismatched body parts of different animals cobbled together to create something unique and unusual. Even those most recent 'alien bodies' being paraded around the world as 'evidence' or said to be similarly constructed fabrications. People still buy into that shit in the year 2024, so just imagine how somebody finding a T-Rex skeleton in the year 25 must have felt.
Elden ring is such a unique game man. It's influenced the way I view art, not just in games but in visual and musical and storytelling. It's hard to explain why it's so special to someone who is adverse to difficult games. #gregsux
I’m guessing that Mesmer is Marika’s son. The trademark red hair is a dead giveaway. Marika used him to purge the people suffering from omen, and also used it as a chance to exile Mesmer. Mesmer’s flame was would be considered an affront to the golden order since it seems to resemble the old energy from the Crucible which preceded the Golden Order. The best analogy to something recent would be like with Odin and Hela from the MCU. Once the conquering was done she was exiled and wiped from history. In the first trailer for shadow, we hear Mesmer reference “mother”. There are three potential people who could be responsible for demigod. Marika, Rennala, and Gloam-Eyed Queen. Rennala wouldn’t make sense, but the other two are much higher in probability
Have you guys seen the UA-camr who hand drew his play-through, storybook style ?? It’s unbelievable! Thought of that when Barret mentioned everyone having their own story.
This is one of my favorite pieces of KF content of all time. The lore explained through NBA and pop culture references is why Kinda Funny is Kinda Funny, aka one of the best in the biz. Thank you.
I love Elden Ring. And I love that no path you take is a good path, which is why I ultimately unleashed the Frenzied Flame and burned the world to ash. Ended all suffering by ending all things. Metal. Can't wait for the dlc. Hope I can join Messmer in further destruction. Also, speculating where Marika is in the trailer, that fleshy place, is the rootbed of what will grow into the Erdtree. I think these trees are built on oceans of blood and flesh of the fallen. Miquella's Haligtree was being watered with his own blood, so stands to reason.
This probably is by far my favorite, the Elden Ring lore is so fascinating but I feel as soon as I boot up my game I forget a majority of it and have to look things up as I go. Great work fellow Tarnished, may you get again claim the ring or whatever it is we are fighting for in the DLC 💥✨
The rumor (with substantial evidence) is that From Soft is working with Brandan Sanderson (The Way of Kings, Mistborn, and Wheel of Time author) to craft a very magic heavy game more akin to bloodborne but with a more blue and gold motif rather than red and black. There’s some concept art out there and quotes from Sanderson talking about the collaboration. I’m very interested to see if that comes to be true.
Somebody please get Greg to give it a chance. Because I remember when the first time it came out in the review, he said all he did was turn it on see the same old stuff so he obviously didn't even give it a chance and I know he would absolutely love the game. If he gives a chance and live stream it, I'm confident you guys will get the most views possible. Because the people that never played souls and stream their first time is always the most entertaining thing seeing someone struggle and overcome it with excitement and succession. Someone please get Greg to at least give it another shot.
Elden Ring is so good, it’s bad. It’s ruined a lot of games I probably would have liked if I never had experienced it. It elevated my expectations for what a great game really is.
Tam is such a beast! I love and enjoy every time he's on KF to break down some lore about Fromsoft games! *And also Bless jumping from the initial 4/5 score to 10.5/10 score just prove how much he's terrible at video games critics. "After 25 hours, Elden Ring is bad game design" c'mon Bless man.
I love the style, world, and lore of Elden Ring but could never get into the combat (I suck). For me a dream project or collab would be FromSoft and Larian working together. What I love from Elden Ring mixed with the combat, party, choice, and dialog of BG3.
The dismissal of Rebirth as GOTY towards the end is so weird, it’s the highest rated game of this year so far and ya’ll say because it isn’t a first party game it isn’t a clear front runner :s
I am still of the minority that Elden Ring does not have a good story, it has good lore. I felt the same playing that game as I did when I finished the Destiny 1 Vanilla Campaign, and I can sum it up in one sentence: "I don't know what the fuck just happened but I did the thing, go me." Elden Ring's story is not given to you in a great way imo. Most of the amazing storytelling is stuff that people pull from obscure lore on item descriptions (sound familiar?). I'm still floored that people feel like Elden Ring deserved the Best Story win or even a nomination in 2022. If I feel compelled to go watch 10s of hours of lore videos to understand the 120 hour journey I just went on, then I did not have a good story experience. I would still give the game a 10/10, because I feel like the game's highs are so incredibly high that it doesn't matter, but it is the singular knock that I have against that game.
I mean I like it, I'm 175 hours and still haven't beat it. But honestly I've had more enjoyment out of lies of p. Idk maybe it's just I like the vibe better
I think I would give Elden Ring a 9/10. I have issues with some of the boss designs in that it feels like to me that FromSoft is in a War of Escalation with their player base in terms of difficulty. Dark Souls is one of my favorite games of all time, and when I die in Dark Souls, I honestly feel like its pretty fair 90%+ of the time. In Elden Ring, there are times against certain enemies and bosses where it falls well below that 90% mark for me. I can bring up tons and tons of individual examples, but the one I will bring up is the consistent hesitations that enemies have on attacks. The animation starts, I react by rolling, and then I find myself rolling 1 or 2 more times, and then the enemy FINALLY finishes a completely unnatural and exaggerated attack animation and hits me with the attack anyway. I'd MUCH rather just have it so that my roll has less i-frames, or the boss attacks have more active frames.
But that in my opinion is part of the fun until you learn the move sets of each boss. The hesitation is the "gotcha bitch" moment of a boss with exaggerated hesi. I get mad at it as well, but I like it.
It's wild that Tamoor gave Elden Ring a 10, while giving FF& Rebirth an 8. Similar story telling as SoulsBorne games, as in there's alot under the skin, but he was so confused by Rebirth's ending & didn't bother to do lore research like Soulslikes. I just think it's ironic is all, and I'm saying this as a SoulsBorne lover.
Wildly different gameplays at hand there. Elden Ring is lore, and all gameplay. Rebirth has to hook you with the mini games, or that’s a potential for a huge flaw.
5 minutes in and they're comparing Elden Ring to the bible ... this is gonna be a good one. Another 5 minutes in and Barrett is going through his in-depth head canon for his character ... this is gonna be a banger.
I think what turns me off to From's games the most--more than the despondent tone--is the feeling that these stories are not human-scaled. Everything feels so big and extra that I have no reason to care about any of it. The "environmental storytelling" reminds me of the opposite of the Louis Khan design quote: "form follows function." The environment seems like it was created in service of story rather than being a setting in which stories happen. What domain does the Elden Lord rule over? Who are their subjects, and what does a normal day look like in these worlds? What happens the day after the final boss battle?
Elden Ring is great but everyone who fauns over the game always leaves out the negatives when looking at it. Repeated bosses over and over and over, poor game balancing, awful performance at launch, poor pacing. All things the game has and it just gets a pass because its From software. I'm a huge From software fan and I like this game a lot but other great games get picked apart for things Elden Ring gets a pass on.
Holy shit! Tam!!! That is mesmer! He’s even got the ring on! Omg you just blew my mind!
But Mohg literally calls him Miquella
I hate this guy, when i saw he was on this.. i had to stop the video. What a shame. I cant explain it.. he just drives me nuts
@@JigglypuffTutorials but again the whole duality thing… or Mohg was mislead by miquellas ability to compel him. There’s a lot of possibilities
@@zell71 strange behaviour
@@zell71it’s a discussion about a video game bro it ain’t that deep
Tamoor gave an A+ breakdown of the lore 🔥
New format for the shows is one of the best decisions they’ve made for the content
For real, I'm such a fan
facts
Every time I see a show without Tim or Greg I feel so proud of how far y'all have come individually and as a group. Always a dope cast with Big Tam! Great discussion you guys, ALSO MISSED YA BARRETT WELCOME BACK!!!!
"Parry the platypus" and "Elemer Fudd" both got me 😂
The body in the cocoon is Miquellas body, it grew with the Haligtree until Mohg stole it. Then Miquella abandoned his dead corpse.
love seeing andy firing on all cylinders. his wit and commentary were on point, so quick. Tam was amazing, love seeing him on but when he's doing From Soft commentary he is on another level.
Elden Ring is my favorite game of all time, and it was my first From Soft game I saw all the way through. I'll never forget my first Elden Ring playthrough, 10/10, easily. Can't wait for the DLC.
Ranni stole a fragment of the rune of death not the entire rune. Maliketh is marikas shadow and he can never betray marika, they are not related in any way.
For Tamoor breaking down the lore and getting us all ready for the DLC
Andy referencing the 2011 NBA Finals and JJ Barea in an Elden Ring podcast is why Kinda Funny is just the best. Great episode
Absolute killer group of people to get together to talk about this game!
Barrett’s personal character story I think exemplifies what makes Elden Ring so special for so many people. You come into Limgrave as a complete stranger, almost a nobody, and it is a hostile world that you set out in full of characters and places and experiences for you to interact with. You can align yourself with these outer gods if you want to, you can interact with whoever you want and see their stories unfold or ignore them completely, it is a living breathing world that will move on without you if you let it.
It’s a 10/10 with issues for sure, but it is one of the greatest games ever made. Great episode y’all, so stoked for the DLC!
Omg I love this. When Andy asking Bless about an “enemy at night and Bless says I wait til daytime to fight enemies I’m scared of night” lol too funny. Great podcast episode love Elden Ring and y’all should have more content of ER. ❤️✌🏽
One thing I want from KindaFunny:
Focus on the things you love. I've seen you doing reviews with nobody in the panel having finished the game and the review was a huge waste of the viewer's time. But when you talk about stuff you like, such as Elden Ring, well, this content is what I'm here for.
Also, try to compartmenatalize the people who are good at specific stuff. For example, Andy and Greg are great at reviews. Paris is great at in-depth analyses. Blessing is a good all-rounder. Snowbike Mike is great for bringing a positive energy to everything. So on and so forth. Use your assets accordingly.
This is KFG Vol. 3, Episode 19 (Episode 503 overall)
New format continues to be an amazing decision. Love that we now get episodes like this.
Incredible lineup for an Elden Ring discussion and a lot of fun to watch. Love you guys 💕
A Parry does not need to result in an attack from the one who parries. It is simply to block an incoming attack. So if it stops an attack but the attacker continues to swing, or you parry and the person falls down, same thing. Still a parry.
This video rules. Elden Ring is my game of the decade so far and I loved this informed, impassioned discussion. Thanks Bless, Tam, Barrett, Andy, and Kev.
I've never been this excited for an Expansion in my 30 years of gaming.
It reminds me of some of my favourite expansions like Diablo 2's Lord Of Destruction and Witcher 3's Blood and Wine.
Also, FromSoft can do whatever the fuck they want at this point. The have such a strong sense of design for many schools of action based games.
Just to think of the fact that Elden Ring was their first proper open world is insane.
Barrett sounds so much like Bob from Bobs Burgers.
Got dammit I can't unhear it now😂
I'll be rewatching this on repeat in order to get caught up on lore! Amazing work!
Skip to 13:26
Thank u
Only thing missing was the backgrounds should’ve had all the beautiful art from the game!
Best game of the last 10 years absolutely mind blowing even now on my 3rd playthrough
HIGHLY RECOMMEND a Dragon Build Dual wield seals Melee is dragon claw, combine with Crucible tail Incantation or Beastial/Lightning for flavor Dragon claw breaks Poise alot
Fun fact: The idea of Cyclops came from idiot humans finding the skeletons of ancient Wooly Mammoths that looked like giant one eyed monsters. Likewise, the images of griffins were created from the discovery of Triceratops skeletons, which appeared to have the heads of a bird and the bodies of a beast. Dragons, obviously, were also the imagined perceptions of the bones (and probably preserved corpses) of other dinosaurs that were found over the early centuries of human civilization. This practice continued well into the 18th century before 'proper' scientific classifications of these skeletons were made, instead of just a handful of uneducated randos looking at the things trying to imagine what they were. I mean, people STILL try to pull the same shit in modern times, and a lot of the prevalent sideshow acts of the 20th century still contained mismatched body parts of different animals cobbled together to create something unique and unusual. Even those most recent 'alien bodies' being paraded around the world as 'evidence' or said to be similarly constructed fabrications. People still buy into that shit in the year 2024, so just imagine how somebody finding a T-Rex skeleton in the year 25 must have felt.
Elden ring is such a unique game man. It's influenced the way I view art, not just in games but in visual and musical and storytelling. It's hard to explain why it's so special to someone who is adverse to difficult games. #gregsux
it's really not though.
@@Bakaridge shut up
@@LowSkillPlays no?
Banger after banger from KF!
I’m guessing that Mesmer is Marika’s son. The trademark red hair is a dead giveaway. Marika used him to purge the people suffering from omen, and also used it as a chance to exile Mesmer. Mesmer’s flame was would be considered an affront to the golden order since it seems to resemble the old energy from the Crucible which preceded the Golden Order. The best analogy to something recent would be like with Odin and Hela from the MCU. Once the conquering was done she was exiled and wiped from history. In the first trailer for shadow, we hear Mesmer reference “mother”. There are three potential people who could be responsible for demigod. Marika, Rennala, and Gloam-Eyed Queen. Rennala wouldn’t make sense, but the other two are much higher in probability
Have you guys seen the UA-camr who hand drew his play-through, storybook style ??
It’s unbelievable! Thought of that when Barret mentioned everyone having their own story.
Only issue is I don’t think you touched upon both Malenia and Miquella being cursed at birth, and miquella stuck as a child.
This is one of my favorite pieces of KF content of all time. The lore explained through NBA and pop culture references is why Kinda Funny is Kinda Funny, aka one of the best in the biz. Thank you.
Great show guys. Love that Tam was able to be on it and in studio, he adds so much to any Fromsoft conversation
I am definitively seated for this one
This was a great episode. It's always awesome when Tam gets to join the show!
1:08:00 nice Kendrick reference there Bless 🤜
Great podcast. Love that we can get these kind of shows now
Kevin and Perry falling on deaf American ears
Tam is so cool and handsome
Elder Ring is a great game, but I can’t understand or learn the story if my life depended on it. And I understand metal gear series.
What a great show! ❤
Will there be a definitive Armored Core 6 podcast?
Always like seeing rare appearances from Tam & Barrett. Good job boys.
I love Elden Ring. And I love that no path you take is a good path, which is why I ultimately unleashed the Frenzied Flame and burned the world to ash. Ended all suffering by ending all things. Metal. Can't wait for the dlc. Hope I can join Messmer in further destruction. Also, speculating where Marika is in the trailer, that fleshy place, is the rootbed of what will grow into the Erdtree. I think these trees are built on oceans of blood and flesh of the fallen. Miquella's Haligtree was being watered with his own blood, so stands to reason.
As a nonlayer, everytime I try to learn elden ring lore I just start hearing a long high pitched hum.
This probably is by far my favorite, the Elden Ring lore is so fascinating but I feel as soon as I boot up my game I forget a majority of it and have to look things up as I go. Great work fellow Tarnished, may you get again claim the ring or whatever it is we are fighting for in the DLC 💥✨
This podcast was amazing. Great discussion about why this is one of the GOAT games.
This is like the No Dunks podcast for gamers
THE ELDEN RING IS REAL
This is like the Young Avengers of KF
The Quadruple A podcast crew.
Sorry Greg and Tim. 😬
The rumor (with substantial evidence) is that From Soft is working with Brandan Sanderson (The Way of Kings, Mistborn, and Wheel of Time author) to craft a very magic heavy game more akin to bloodborne but with a more blue and gold motif rather than red and black. There’s some concept art out there and quotes from Sanderson talking about the collaboration. I’m very interested to see if that comes to be true.
Do you mean spellbound? That's been debunked unfortunately, we have no idea what they are working on next.
@@allanwhittle4603 oh really? Last I heard it was on. Bummer - I liked the idea
Phenomenal show thank you
Great story Barret. 😐😂
this was awesome
Somebody please get Greg to give it a chance. Because I remember when the first time it came out in the review, he said all he did was turn it on see the same old stuff so he obviously didn't even give it a chance and I know he would absolutely love the game. If he gives a chance and live stream it, I'm confident you guys will get the most views possible. Because the people that never played souls and stream their first time is always the most entertaining thing seeing someone struggle and overcome it with excitement and succession. Someone please get Greg to at least give it another shot.
Elden Ring is so good, it’s bad. It’s ruined a lot of games I probably would have liked if I never had experienced it. It elevated my expectations for what a great game really is.
Andy, it was Barbra Streisand.
Tam is such a beast! I love and enjoy every time he's on KF to break down some lore about Fromsoft games!
*And also Bless jumping from the initial 4/5 score to 10.5/10 score just prove how much he's terrible at video games critics. "After 25 hours, Elden Ring is bad game design" c'mon Bless man.
A question for the crew, would you be happy to play a turn based game by FromSoftware? Bg3 or jrpg style
I love the style, world, and lore of Elden Ring but could never get into the combat (I suck). For me a dream project or collab would be FromSoft and Larian working together. What I love from Elden Ring mixed with the combat, party, choice, and dialog of BG3.
Did not like Elden Ring at all but enjoyed listening to the conversation
Fuck yeah! My tweet got read out
Great episode!
Elden ring GFuel is pretty good! Kinda floral fruit punch kind of flavor.
The dismissal of Rebirth as GOTY towards the end is so weird, it’s the highest rated game of this year so far and ya’ll say because it isn’t a first party game it isn’t a clear front runner :s
Not a shocker coming from these guys. Tim is the only one who really shows the series any love.
1:32:32 lmfaoo
So this is a new weekly show right guys? Guys??
You could do a weekly Elden Ring podcast and legit have like a month of fresh content.
I am still of the minority that Elden Ring does not have a good story, it has good lore. I felt the same playing that game as I did when I finished the Destiny 1 Vanilla Campaign, and I can sum it up in one sentence:
"I don't know what the fuck just happened but I did the thing, go me."
Elden Ring's story is not given to you in a great way imo. Most of the amazing storytelling is stuff that people pull from obscure lore on item descriptions (sound familiar?). I'm still floored that people feel like Elden Ring deserved the Best Story win or even a nomination in 2022.
If I feel compelled to go watch 10s of hours of lore videos to understand the 120 hour journey I just went on, then I did not have a good story experience.
I would still give the game a 10/10, because I feel like the game's highs are so incredibly high that it doesn't matter, but it is the singular knock that I have against that game.
I’m tired of hub worlds. I wish they would design another game that is more like Dark Souls 1.
Been replaying for the DLC and the game has kind of lost its luster for me. Not really a 10 for me anymore.
I mean I like it, I'm 175 hours and still haven't beat it. But honestly I've had more enjoyment out of lies of p. Idk maybe it's just I like the vibe better
I feel you. Elden ring is a better overall game due to its scale but Lies of P is just good fun
I feel you. Elden ring is a better overall game due to its scale but Lies of P is just good fun
I think I would give Elden Ring a 9/10. I have issues with some of the boss designs in that it feels like to me that FromSoft is in a War of Escalation with their player base in terms of difficulty. Dark Souls is one of my favorite games of all time, and when I die in Dark Souls, I honestly feel like its pretty fair 90%+ of the time. In Elden Ring, there are times against certain enemies and bosses where it falls well below that 90% mark for me. I can bring up tons and tons of individual examples, but the one I will bring up is the consistent hesitations that enemies have on attacks. The animation starts, I react by rolling, and then I find myself rolling 1 or 2 more times, and then the enemy FINALLY finishes a completely unnatural and exaggerated attack animation and hits me with the attack anyway. I'd MUCH rather just have it so that my roll has less i-frames, or the boss attacks have more active frames.
But that in my opinion is part of the fun until you learn the move sets of each boss. The hesitation is the "gotcha bitch" moment of a boss with exaggerated hesi. I get mad at it as well, but I like it.
It's wild that Tamoor gave Elden Ring a 10, while giving FF& Rebirth an 8. Similar story telling as SoulsBorne games, as in there's alot under the skin, but he was so confused by Rebirth's ending & didn't bother to do lore research like Soulslikes. I just think it's ironic is all, and I'm saying this as a SoulsBorne lover.
Wildly different gameplays at hand there. Elden Ring is lore, and all gameplay. Rebirth has to hook you with the mini games, or that’s a potential for a huge flaw.
@@EveryTimeIDavid Wasn't talking about gameplay, more so story and the hidden layers that they both have.
5 minutes in and they're comparing Elden Ring to the bible ... this is gonna be a good one.
Another 5 minutes in and Barrett is going through his in-depth head canon for his character ... this is gonna be a banger.
I liked Barrett's story of his character's journey.
I think what turns me off to From's games the most--more than the despondent tone--is the feeling that these stories are not human-scaled. Everything feels so big and extra that I have no reason to care about any of it. The "environmental storytelling" reminds me of the opposite of the Louis Khan design quote: "form follows function." The environment seems like it was created in service of story rather than being a setting in which stories happen. What domain does the Elden Lord rule over? Who are their subjects, and what does a normal day look like in these worlds? What happens the day after the final boss battle?
I loved Barret's story of Elden Ring! That's how the best games should be interpreted! With your own imagination and creativity.
I really appreciated Barrett's telling of his story.
Tamoor is spitting on the deep lore articulately, and keeps getting interrupted by the dumbest analogies.
Tough episode as both an Elden Ring fan and a Bible fan.
a dlc can be considered for goty. but shouldn't. so dumb.
Elden Ring is great but everyone who fauns over the game always leaves out the negatives when looking at it. Repeated bosses over and over and over, poor game balancing, awful performance at launch, poor pacing. All things the game has and it just gets a pass because its From software. I'm a huge From software fan and I like this game a lot but other great games get picked apart for things Elden Ring gets a pass on.
4 clowns that know nothing