Kendrick Perkins Explains Why the Early 2010s Thunder Fell Short
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2022
- Kendrick Perkins shares why he thinks the Thunder team with KD, Russ, and Harden couldn't get over the hump and how different the team chemistry was from his time with the Celtics. He also reveals the text message he sent to James Harden after he left the Thunder and was traded to the Rockets.
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Not a Harden fan at all, but that response to Perk’s text is extremely respectable. Not what I was expecting but that was rather mature for a 23 year old 💯
Factssss loved that part.
I was thinking that too. That stuck with me. Also KP being humble enough to admit it
Naw to me it says a lot about his character, He will sink the ship if he cant be captain and thats what he did and will continue to do
@@se78n39 lmaoo ? Wat ship did he sink ? Brooklyn nets 😂😂😂🤣!? U see how tht situation looked before he was there and now tht he’s gone . He wanted the money tht he deserved with the okc situation… they weren’t willing to give it to him so they traded him .
Facts Harden always been a good dude
Perk bringing the stars together is why you need a culture & vets in locker room.
Really highlights how role players can be really valuable to a Championship Team...even if they dont get many minutes
@@Chulx97 some coaches are great and the voice but there is always one guy on the team sometimes he plays or he might sat on the bench but he does all the dirty work says what need to be said holds everyone accountable keeps the team together guys like Draymond green udonis haslem LeBron Jordan Kobe big perk and clearly doc rivers is on this list even though he don't get the respect he deserves embid played his best ball this year can doc get some type of credit it's not his fault James harden aint show up and Steve Kerr of course is on the list and ty lue
Iggy too
This is why Haslem is still with the Heat
Facts
Crazy to think how a team drafted 3 of the top 75 players of all time in a 4 year span and they couldn’t win a title because of personality conflicts.
Personality conflicts didn't prevent them from winning a title.
Money
I mean they were also super young. Why does everyone consider it a failure for a super young team to lose to the Heat in their prime with the best version of Lebron who was as motivated as ever to win his first championship?
I mean having Russ, Harden, KD, Ibaka and Adams was insane. Definitely woulda gotten a ring the next year
@@alejandroserrano7755 Adams didn’t get drafted til 2013 my guy. Also we were still the favorite the next year even without Harden til Pat Bev ruined everything
These podcasts are like closure. I cannot express how amazing it is to be able to hear retrospective insights like this.
Answers to the questions you had for years.
Fr its like a directors commentary where the actors talk about stories from set.
I feel like the Brooklyn Nets are gonna have some crazy stories thatll explain it all when KD, Ky, and Harden are retired
Wow, Perk dropping therapy level analysis, extremely valuable information on interpersonal relationships and how they affect success.
Yup, this is all the intangibles people never bring up. Culture and Chemistry are important. If you're not locked in as a unit, you can only go so far.
Some may think Perk is lying but I remember hearing in OKC media how much of a leader Perk was when he arrived.
KD will surely say he’s lying but I believe Perk
Nah this is Perk propaganda
People will sit here and act like perk was a nobody though just because he didn’t average 20ppg. As if veteran leadership doesn’t count for anything.
He was the vet/enforcer/tough guy
@@MrMan-fx3ow didn’t he average 4 points and like 4 rebounds?
Dude was big and didn’t seem to improve from year to year. If you took his prime and put him in the newer nba where you have to switch like bam, or defend away from the basket…
Kd talked about how he wasn’t in the gym improving. Might just be kd taking a shot, but back then you could get a contract much easier before small ball was as popular as it is now
I have a lot of respect for Perk. He’s going through that espn biased hate but he’s one of the realest ones on there and he’s trying to learn a new craft and balling with it. We should celebrate him
He admitted in this video he isn't trying to learn a new craft though. He said he can't read well or isn't focused on stats like JJ and instead just says what ESPN want him to say like a mule.
I respect Perk. But sometimes his takes are awful and based on that he deserves some of the takes he gets.
Perk is the man
@@ANGELOFDARKification by the craft i meant him working 5+ different shows per day instead of 5 hours playing ball per day. I think he’s more interesting than 95% of other ESPN employees is all I’m tryna get at. We all know how ESPN is but he navigates it pretty darn well.
@@ANGELOFDARKification don’t watch espn then clown
That entire team was young. Players, coaches, front office, even the actual team itself.
They just ran into the GOAT in the finals
@@dadillonful
Lebron ran into the GOAT Curry 4 times and lost 3 of them
@@patrick553 Lmaooo your in love with LeBron 😂
@@patrick553 curry and 4 other hall of famers in their primes
@@dadillonful
2015 and in 2017, Cavs had 4 hall of famers.
This is great insight for OKC fans like myself, thanks perk. We all knew KD and Russ were kinda faking it for the media but not to that extent. Like to the point the families weren’t even talking at one point? That’s crazy cause you really wouldn’t have been able to tell from the outside looking in
Facts. Obviously KD was leaving okc and they was gonna beef. Can’t believe we were all shocked
This is no different from any other team imo everybody is just coworkers
@@Kirbystare1992 but at the time they were putting up a very very good front of being “brothers”. Even in KDs interviews he was going to bat for Russ when the media was putting him down, so as a fan during that time it seemed like their bond was unbreakable. That’s what’s it’s such a big shock from me hearing to what extent they actually DIDNT like each other ya know
@@Kirbystare1992 have you ever been on a locker room ? That’s bs, a team is a brotherhood and you got to kick it with yo guys and I don’t mean being with each other 24/7 or even 12hrs a day but you gotta communicate and familiarize with each other, that’s where chemistry comes from. If you don’t talk with yo guys even in the locker room, you either got something to say but you don’t have the balls to spit it out or else you just don’t like’em and the team is gonna be divided because of that.
@@HaezeusYT i agree. Thats how i felt. They put on a good show. Most players dont care enough to do that
It makes so much sense that KD and Kyrie are friends lol… this interview gives so much context
Just say you hate human beings that isn’t programmed “ as the norm”
Just say u dont like ppl who aren't programmed followers and move on
@@speakingwithced lmaooo you copied dudes message from above you and you talking about being programmed followers
@@speakingwithced just say you want to be special but aren't 😂
@@godlyform974 you're so special dude
As a former Army vet!!! As the saying goes Leadership is everything!! All that talent on team! They should have been generational!!Like Perk said they’re going to look back with regret!
talent is so overrated and so is the damn superstar that the media and fans props up so much .
- was a Spc for 8 years and never deployed
Had Harden stayed they'd have legendary careers... now the have some of the most disappointing careers for how talented they were
I had a conversation / argument with a guy for about an hour telling him how OKC trading Jeff Green for Kendrick Perkins actually helped make the OKC Thunder title contenders. He argued back and forth mainly about Perkins' stats and how he was basically a bum. I advised him guys like Perkins are chemistry and glue guys who know their role, and helped them get over the hump. He refused to believe that. This only lets me know I was right, and it's things that don't show up in the stat sheet that can build chemistry more than on court skills. Remember that KG cried when Ainge traded Perkins, so that should tell you all you need to know about him.
It's also a reason why guys like DeAndre Jordan, Haslem, Tyson Chandler, Jared Dudley kept/keep getting vet min contracts. It's about creating a good locker room culture regardless how useless they are on the court.
@@ANGELOFDARKification at the end of the day good teammates will keep getting roles on great teams and people will just say they are lucky, right place right time, etc. All it takes is 1 bad teammate to ruin a championship contender team.
He also played solid defense in his Boston and okc days, a big body not afraid to get physical
It's true, but they played Perkins way too much lmao
Perk never helped them get "over the hump" though. The Thunder never won a title with him.
I was also at that Mavs-OKC Game 4 in 2012. I had great seats behind the Thunder bench. I remember watching James Harden continually cross up Shawn Marion (an excellent defender)...and I told my girlfriend....."Man......James Harden is badass"
I'm with Perk. I was not surprised at the player Harden became in Houston.
Felt like them prioritizing a big man that can block shots over Harden was odd. At the time there were quite a bit of those guys, maybe not as good as Ibaka but over Harden I think thats a dumb choice.
@@Plague_Doc22 James didn't want to be a sixth man anymore coz everybody knows he a starter but him and russ as a backcourt don't really mesh well since they both need the ball in their hands plus you have KD who also needs his touches. I guess him asking for a bigger role and more money made it an easy decision for the front office to let him go since they think Russ and KD are their cornerstones and its easier to just fit roleplayers around them.
@@jaycee.01 yee and at that time think they wanted bigs to go against the lakers(pau and bynum)
Harden had the ball in his hands in the 4th he was the pg man the warriors thank him for leaving because had they stayed together they would be running the league
As a OKC fan, major props to BIG Perk trying to establish team continuity..I never knew he had leadership qualities
U guys needs to thank Lebron 😂
Perk sounds like he was a great teammate man
When you can understand what he's saying, he sure does
yeah off the court 😂
What else is he gonna do ! 🤣
Sounds like Perk was the guy trying to bring the team together but KD and Russ just wouldn't/couldn't mesh.
Sad story.
Except that none of his old teammates like him, outside of Boston.
One of the ultimate what IF teams
Might be THE #1 man 3 mvps on one team that's crazy
@Trippy SZN the what if is what if James Harden wasn't traded
@@braxtonandrews4047 exactly, not only that but they had the luck of having them at different positions too. Like Russ triple double machine, KD a 7 feet sniper and Harden step back shooting machine.
forreal they should have atleast 2 championship
I absolutely love authentic basketball conversations like this, hearing a different perspective of what goes down in the locker rooms rather than hearing sas or nick wright go on about absolute BS. We need more jj reddick and draymond in media ❗️❗️❗️
well said 100 100
Lol it came out of perks mouth
Nick Wright is 1000x more enjoyable to listen to than SAS
@@Baldwhip the takes he have about mj are always ridiculous and false information so i rather not have either one of them lol
This was interesting. I remember that team. They had so much potential. KP explained talent isn’t enough. Chemistry is critical.
The series against the Heat should’ve only been the first big loss in steps going towards a championship. And that 3-1 loss to the Warriors still has to hurt. If they end up champions in 2016, the view on Russ and Durant completely change there, and maybe they don’t leave too.
They beat the spurs with Kawhi to get to the warriors.
I think because they didn’t really get along that when they got met with adversity they attacked each other and not the problem. They blamed Russ for that series but when you go back and watch KD was not there and gave up on a lot of of plays. If they don’t leave and Harden not traded and if they got on the same page they would have a ring by now.
@@Mbest624 lol bro Russ played bad in every game basically please stop. If you look at any series with two great teams the second best player on a team usually wins atleast one game. Russ played bad every game lol
I mean the team was just poorly managed. Thats why winning a ring has a lot of factors involved in it.
The coach wasn’t good enough to manage that team. Letting Harden go after reaching the finals? Big mistake. How many times will a team have 3 mvp caliber players together and in different positions?
that's what happens when you have a dumbass owner who won't go into a cheap luxury tax compared to now
I'm glad Perk is setting the record straight on some of the Thunder misconceptions. Like, 5 million was the difference between James re-signing or being traded. James wanted his own team, that was the real reason he was traded.
As a Thunder fan I think the media played a huge role in the relationship between KD and Russ being what it was. There was always the chatter about whose team it was Russ or KD, who was Batman, who was Robin, who was the alpha, so on and so forth. That went on the whole time they were together. So from the outside there was always that talk going on. That's why I think the organization was more guarded with them at the time in regards to press. That's why when KD left he talked about being able to be himself and the guardrails that OKC kinda had on them in regards to interaction with the media. Not realizing that they were trying to keep that stuff as far away as they could. I know that they were still hearing it, and it had to impact their relationship.
As a fan there was an incident that I remember in regards to that talk and it struck me the wrong way. The Thunder were playing I believe it was the playoffs, and some of this chatter had been going on the day before the game. KD was going off this game and near the end was fouled and made the shot. I remember him under the basket near the fans and he said "This is my m'fn team". In that moment and with the context of everything going on I felt weird about him saying that. It was never talked about, but I saw it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Conversely, it also goes to show how fickle minded NBA players can be in terms of ego. In a team sport, they care a bit too much about whether they are 1st or 2nd option etc. The media definitely doesn't help them but KD and Russ are also partly at fault for not squashing any conversation surrounding this topic by themselves as adults. It makes you appreciate other teams like the Spurs with Duncan, Parker and Ginobili and Warriors with Draymond, Steph and Klay and the lack of egoes they have.
@@ANGELOFDARKification I agree, it definitely shows how self-less those guys were. In my opinion we see today who the guy is that the Thunder saw as the one who really needed the guardrails, 'cough' KD!
It was all the talks when KD was in warriors and both time he bailed when things gets tough.
Nah Perkins is lying
Russ was definitely at fault tho. KD was always the best player and it always should've been his team. As the point guard, russ should've made sure kd got the ball more and got the ball in close out situations. Instead his HORRIBLE decision making cost them big leads and close games so often. That thunder team would've won at least 1 (if not 2-3) chips if they had any decent decision making pg who could actually shoot fairly well. But the organization definitely should've made it clear to the team who the closer was
I was surprised to hear that when they went to Olympics, Lebron and some of the stars tried to break them up because they saw what these guys can do 😮
I mean if you’re LeBron why not? I could see stars doing that to a player like Jordan Poole
@@PHXNKVHXLIC Poole is not on that level lool
Not surprised but Wade was not on that 12 Olympic team
Shouldn’t be surprised. Lebron doesn’t like strong competition.
Chess move,cause you want young dudes to get the bag,have success but they are in a competitive sport and want to exploit every advantage they can.
something i just realized is that KD is the one who is always being left out. As Perk said KD never hung around with Harden or Russ. I heard he was also left out of the original Warriors core, said that he never got along with them.
I guess he just doesn't work with others.
How you don't work well with other and win 2 rings.... They were the perfect team.
@@aye_bruh Perk said that it isn't necessary to be bros with teammates but he said that it helps.
Also I mean you have that much talent on your team and 1 guy won't just ruin the team chemistry.
Apparently Dennis Rodman didn't talk to anyone on the bulls while he was there. Sometimes greatness pulls you through shifty chemistry.
From everyone’s accounts, KD only cares about the game, even after the game is over he’s not the type to chill or have another hobby, it’s a great type of player to have but not lead
I mean, its okay. Maybe KD is a lone wolf type of guy. I believe Kawhi is similar too.
As an fan of those teams this is heartbreaking
Egos between superstars are crazy….
This is about money. Would you turn down millions of dollars and potentially hundreds of millions of dollars to please your peers?
@@rashardstallworth9240 right and people dont understand how hard it is to win a ring, there are so many "superstars" who are still ringless.. i get why people would chase the money because no ring is guranteed in todays league..
@@rashardstallworth9240 I was referring to Kd vs Russ but yes I would sacrifice 1-3 more seasons if it meant a championship then let the team decide how important I am 💯💯💯
@@edwinglass7025 there’s no guarantee that you’re going to win a ring, and your wife would probably leave you for giving up hundreds of millions of dollars for a piece of jewelry. There are countless NBA, NFL, major-league baseball, and other sport athletes who deeply regret all the money that they gave up to get a ring, are now broke and we now see them auctioning those rings off on eBay
The 2012 thunder team is so op on 2k lmao
It made no sense, they had Russ hitting threes like he was steph curry. I hated when people would choose that team lmao
I once had someone go 100% from 3 on me with them. Insanity
Perkins ruins that team for me. It's like 2k purposely codes him to be as slow and stupid as possible on defense with no offense to work with😂
Facts lol. Only the Heat could match that team
@@laserkid9759 that’s why u run Ibaka at center and thabo at pf
In OKC when Harden would do his size up dribble + step back over any defender I knew the dude was an alpha and needed his own team to flourish
That version of Kendrick Perkins was the best in my opinion, he was soo fit and could run the fast break with the young thunder big 3
Damn Perk built their relationship. Glue guy at its finest.
This team is forever gonna get talked about
Wow I love how big perk try to slowly manipulate the situation by getting the team together with those type of methods big UPS to him for even trying.
These interview videos are so cool to see the ins and outs of the NBA!
This is amazing! Best interview hands down! 😂😂😂😂
As a Clippers fan, this is what we are missing right now. Say all you want about Pat Bev, Lou Will, and Trezz. Those three were really close and spent a lot of time together, which allowed us to win more games than we should’ve.
Gotta disagree. We're good with what we have. We just need a playmaker and fewer injuries
@@blitzy7961 I think he meant more about team chemistry and locker room personalities rather than player abilities and roles.
I mean, they totally upended their team for stars, one of which is maybe not the best leader and the other doesn't speak. Should probably have been expected.
Trez and pat bev trash tho
@@AdvancedEverything You clearly missed the point of the comment
Y'know I feel like guys like Perk who isn't the main guy gives much more details than the main guys themselves like KD or Russ, because guys like Perk dont have much to lose anymore so they let it all out being more honest, gotta get more guys like Perk!
I love Perk man. Dude keeps it real 100%. Even said details I had no idea about till now.
Been waiting for this! BIG PERK in the house laying it down!!!!
Pause
AYO
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Hope JJ can get a Warriors player. Preferably an off the bench player like Poole, GP2, Belly or Otto
GP2 please!
@bjrowland
No, he s not that interesting. His fathers interview is better
@@dsine2267 he bounced around the league and finally found a home. Would absolutely love to hear what he has to say. Knowing what he had to overcome
@@LuckyC1723 i heard him once, his story is just like anyone 's else who got bounced around. Maybe its just because he is not a natural big story teller? I dont know...
What I know is that i heard him and his father in different interviews and when G.Payton Sr talked about his son, it was more interesting. Maybe he s just shy?
Draymond and Andre were already on but yea I would love to see Loon or even a former guy like Shaun Livingston. Both dealt with game-changing injuries and made comebacks to become vital pieces for the Warriors.
Great interview. Perk would make a great coach. It takes more than mere individual talent to win a championship. Perk understands that very well.
Thanks Perk's for finally giving us closure on that amazing team
Thanks for the insight and everything you have given to the Thunder, Mr. Perkins.
I know hindsight is 20/20, but I’ll never understand somebody who didn’t see Harden becoming a star. His production off the bench didn’t make sense, and he was the de facto PG over Russ. I was absolutely sick the exact moment I learned of the trade, and am still lowkey down on Presti/cheap ownership to this day
Do you think even with the contract on offer Harden would have been happy coming off the bench though? I think ultimately it would have led to a bust up and the FO decided to choose Russ over Harden. Probably wrong choice but it's easy to say that now in hindsight.
@@ANGELOFDARKification he himself chose to stay on the bench that last yr, and he wouldn’t take a max extension to stay off the bench, nor should he have.
Also they had another title contending yr to make that decision
@@scarfaceaceo My point is I don't think he would continue to stay on the bench if he got a max though, he was too good for that. Also from an ownership viewpoint, you don't give max contracts to bench players or try not to. Harden would have inevitably caused an issue in terms of playing time with Russ who was already tied down. They decided to choose and they chose Westbrook.
@@ANGELOFDARKification my point was he chose to stay on the bench. The team wanted to start him his last yr
@@scarfaceaceo It depends when the contract talks started I guess. He might have changed his mind on his role after losing in the finals and realising he might be better than Westbrook and what OKC valued him at.
Man the amount of NBA lore this show brings out.... amazing.
Keep making these videos. The insight is top notch.
Gota love how Perk keeps it real man.
It really did hurt when we lost harden, could’ve been a big dynasty. Also if we drafted Draymond Green instead of Perry Jones 3rd
We?
@@Thjrjrnem3kjen4brn thunder fool
@@phkeifff3139 oh ok you kept saying we as if you were on the team I was confused
@@Thjrjrnem3kjen4brn that’s how fans talk GTFO
@@darealest2exist260 fans that are 15 and under I guess
I think the Harden trade was bigger than just losing Harden as a player, he was a huge part of their culture together and it was the first domino to fall in all of their subsequent chemistry failures leading to KD leaving the team. Also, Harden would have developed into the next Ginobili more than likely.
Definitely true
This is a great point, especially after hearing what Perk said about how KD & Russ never kicked it with one another. James was such a big part of the culture there, and was cool with russ, and could've potentially been a bridge for Russ and KD.
Yep, I remember years ago, Collison telling how important Harden was as a glue guy between KD's introversion and Westbrick's petulance, a locker room leader.
no disrespect but he's better than ginobili, so it was only a matter of time until he needed his shine. Manu not averaging 30 on his own team or getting near triple double numbers.
This podcast is really fascinating stuff. I'm glad I found it
when perk talked about other players trying to break them up man....everybody was scared of them. makes me think about when people were celebrating when kobe and shaq broke apart too. idk how much the media played into it but they couldve been special had they all stuck together, the bond might have been better too. sounds like kd has always been alone though like that lonely kid in school
facts, its crazy how during those olympics bron and the banana boat said that to james and kobe also talkin to russ. they all knew that trio was comin different, sad they were too young to capitalize
@@philipojo332 yeah kobe doing that I dont mind lol he's always playing mind games to see how tough they are but lebron and his banana boat team? lol they were hypocrites
They did the same thing with Ben and Joel.
Damn I thought KD and Westbrook were cool with each other in OKC until KD left for the Warriors and James Harden was the odd man out the whole time. Now I realize it all makes sense because Westbrook went to Houston to team up with Harden because they were cool with each other until that experiment didn't work anymore. The odd man out was KD, who seems to isolate himself from a lot of people.
About a seasom or two after Harden left, I realized Harden was the glue. Westbrook constantly doing too much to try and prove himself instead of playing the #2 role.
Harden was their true pg and made sure the ball got into the right hands at the right time, even if the chemistry behind the scenes wasn't the best.
@@J-Hueharden is the glue😂😂😂😂 stop it fool he is selfish and always will be perk is right
I love how THEY manage to post this to the Minute honestly Incredible Sending LUCK
what are you talking about
Kendrick Perkins get so much backlash from the media but he’s really good at what he does.. he keeps it 100
Feel like KD and Kyrie are those 2 unpopular kids/outcasts who became friends lol
I think they're in competition to see who can be a more unlikable narcissist.
@@jeff330 you don't even know them personally
@@BigA678 Their lives have been in the public light for years.
@@jeff330 lol it's just basketball. Can't judge them as human beings bruh. Kyrie helped build a solar water center in pakistan last year and kd has is own charity organization.
@@ishanshah4904 Narcissists like admiration and power so philanthropy isn't always a sign someone is a good person. How you conduct yourself in all walks of life is a testament to your character regardless of if it's a sport or not. Sports are supposed to be games played for fun and look at the amount of attention, energy, and money given to them. People are making millions or billions off of basketball, people talk and argue about it everyday, KD calls himself a God because he can put a ball in a cylinder. I don't think you understand how puffed up these people are and how much the power, money, and attention has gone to their heads.
Kendrick Perkins is a Real Dude!
Very interesting insights by Big Perk.
James should be starting since 2012, maybe 2011 and then Brooks should stagger the three stars' minutes, he was waaay to good to be coming off the bench. He needed to be a star starter in order to enjoy all the... perks that come with it.
Team culture, that's what Kerr, Steph, Klay, Draymond, and Iggy built in GS. I hope Iggy stays with the team in whatever role if he retires.
"James should be starting" =/= team culture.
"Team culture" = Iggy, Manu and even Steph himself coming off the bench
@@darrengordon-hill I mean they should somehow try to keep their big 3 and keep them satisfied. Harden was young and up and coming, as Perk said he wanted his shoe deals and everything that comes with being a star, he'd never be a Manu/Iggy type of player.
But yes, Russ and James were probably way too selfish for it to work in the long run. They had a great run in 2012 though, shame it was the last one.
Big Perk very professional 👏🏻 and great speech and story I agree with him 1000%
Jj podcast is blowing up because Kp and some of the guest he bring in keep it 💯
Honestly I think if the Thunder had a different coach and fostered more of a team all for one atmosphere they would have had a better outcome. I watched to many Thunder games where they just won on pure greatness with what looked like very little actual game plan being adhered to. When Durant came to the warriors that motion offense looked like it was poetry in motion. I have always been a big Westbrook and Durant fan it's still crazy to me that Durant, Harden, Westbrook team didn't win a couple titles....
Scott Brooks was definitely the wrong coach, Billy donovan wasn't any better I. My opinion but the NEW guy looks like a difference maker
Right? Man Scott brooks was a disaster. And Presti also kept surrounding them with sefelosha and Roberson and Perkins. Just total offensive liabilities. It was literally 2 on 5 basketball with little spacing. Just bad all around
Blame everyone else off the court except the star players who kept failing on the court....classic fanboyism ...
@@digontozahid What an idiotic comment from a person who knows nothing about basketball.
Scott Brooks was 🤬 horrible
So Lebron..Carmelo Wade were planting seeds in Harden's brain in order to break up this very good n promising okc nucleus.
Im not surprised...
But OKC were so stupid to waste a damn good trio like they gotta..
Coaching was the issue Period!!!
I agree.. Scott Brooks just let Kd and Russ run iso and p&r by taking turns
Kobe did the same to Westbrook
yeah they spent way too many years with scott brooks
@@kingrell116 yea kobe use to do that to alot of guys lmao
Kobe was also notorious for doing this, great players will find anything to have an edge
And this is why coaches like Steve Kerr, Greg Popavich, Phil Jackson etc etc are needed. All of these players are talented but dealing with different personalities and egos is a skill. It's more than just X's and O's.
This is crazy good content
Yooo jj you should try to get iman Shumpert on this podcast I think it would be great but love all the previous podcasts and this one too
3 future MVPs on the same team and they didnt win 1 title.....one of the biggest let downs ever and i believe Perk's story here. They're all very quirky guys who do their own thing.
They were only together for 3 years though second youngest team to EVER make the finals. If they kept all 3 for like 8 years and never got one then I would say yea that’s bad.
@@Kirbystare1992 thank you
Cant wait for the ESPN 30 for 30
Bron did gsw a favorite. He broke the team up
@@Kirbystare1992 not only that even after James. Russ missed a season, KD missed a season and a half. Then Russ missed a half season again. Then the one season they were Healthy they took the 73-9 GSW to 3-1 lead.
I like these insights from perk
I could listen to Perk talk all day about team dynamics in the locker room, especially between all-stars in Boston, OKC and Cleveland. People weren't kidding when he was always hailed as an amazing leader behind the scenes.
Insight to why KD never felt moved to tell Russ he was leaving OKC & I’m shocked to why Russ felt so hurt/disrespected by it
After all this time the media made it seem like KD and Westbrook were best friends back in OKC but Kendrick Perkins gave us the real story on why everyone split up it makes sense bc if KD, Westbrook & Harden stayed together they could've won a ring if they interacted with each other. S/0 to JJ Redick for giving us these exclusive interviews that the media won't tell us about
I like JJ, he doesn't concentrate in media hating players, but on true facts of NBA and playing the sport we love.
wow, wow, and wow. so much revelations from perk. golden
I don’t see how people don’t like perk he entertaining and keep it real he gone say he wrong when he wrong
It’s because Presti is an awful team builder, but a great drafter. He surrounded KD and Russ with absolute offensive liabilities. It was basically 2 on 5 basketball with no shooters on the court. Not to mention Scott Brooks ughhhh.
More like 1 on 5. Russ was also a offensive liability. KD was the only skilled player in Okc.
The same problem will still arise. This isn’t presti fault at all. Harden was bound to do his own thing, KD is really too himself we all know that, Russ was literally the opposite of KD personality wise. Chemistry wise they wasn’t gonna really last regardless of putting shooters. Everything that happened now would have still been the same regardless of your suggestion
There were possessions where KD would pass the ball to Russ and KD would stand at half court. He wasn’t helping either. Stop hating
@@aliomar4644 Russ a liability are you insane lol. He was one of the best mid range shooters in basketball. You clearly didn’t watch basketball.
@@michael6601 What does that have to do with putting scrubs around KD and Russ and an awful coach?
Former players will hate on him for being so transparent but as fans this is what we need
Love Kendrick.
Champion teams are not about skill only , chemistry is important.
I'm still pissed at the C's for ever letting Perk go to OKC. You couldn't replace his fire and will to win and the intimidation factor he brought to the middle. Such a team player, stuck on a team in Oklahoma that was more bout the egos than the rings.
Yeah man no ego involved with Pierce, KG, Rey, Rondo etc.. okc lost to the same heat team that was responsible for the Celtics rebuild didn’t they?
Talent is not enough without team chemistry. These three guys have found that out time and time again with all the different organizations they've played with since they all joined the league.
Perk, JJ, and Richard are the best ESPN has to offer.
Clicked faster than kd with a burner account
They should have tried kept James if they kept James they would have won a title 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
No, with that selfish dude no one will win anything
Multiple times
@@bosyogurtlight he was not that personality before he joined the rockets, dude still barely went to the club at that time lol
Felt like the year for OKC to win it all would’ve been 2015. Spurs were knocked early warriors still figuring out how to win. Clippers were the clippers, Lebron and the Cavs were injured
@@lpy1102 did you listen to what Kendrick said in the podcast? He has always been the same, he just needed a change of place to show the world his true self (in every single way)
Goes to show: Talent alone is not enough, you also have to be good with people. You need to be a good leader whose teammates will gladly listen and stand behind.
man stop it. Thunder wouldve won in 2013, 14, or 15 if they were just healthy lol
I wasn't going to watch his interview, but after watching these 8 minutes I changed my mind.
Thunder could have been like the Spurs .. three stars drafted like TD, Tony and Manu. They didnt stay together and KD only won two titles with the Warriors.
Kd won zero and iggy, gaymond, Steph and klay have 1 tbh
Yeah they only needed a good coach
He said “including me”, like he is a tougher matchup hahaha
Lmfaoo yooo
Lmao caught that too😂
He said that so it was not a jab at the other two ppl sensitive these days
This was a good take
Perk's the realest. wish he and Kob played together
4 years wasted from 2011 to 2014 because the Thunder had this guy as their starting center. Anybody else with hands that can hold onto the basketball and they win at least 1 title.
Fax tho lolol
Sadly have to agree. Perk was unbelievably bad to watch.
Scott Brooks is the main culprit of this debacle
How come Sam presti didnt fire him ..thats baffling..
Presti should be fired
Kinda hard to fire a coach when you make the WCF or Finals 4/6 full seasons he was that coach. You're winning.
A better coach would ve saved them for sure and he would ve motivated them to sacrifice for eachother to start with.
Perk always kerps it 💯
Bro the first 15 seconds
HOOKED
This squad and the Shaq-Penny Magic are the greatest what-if teams in my lifetime
Wow, finally something concrete behind the curtain.
7:40 That’s what leaders do. Perk was so overlooked. And humble enough to care about you.
Forcing to make your teammates to talk is difficult especially if it’s not natural they were a special team but at least Kendrick put effort to try to bring together the team as a whole that’s a real one 👏
As great as Russ is it seems like he would be hard to play with from an on court chemistry standpoint. He’s just to ball dominate and doesn’t have a real PG IQ. KDs always been better than Russ but the OKC thunder organization and Russ never acted like they knew that. That had to be frustrating for KD. You could see the frustration in Bron and ADs face this whole season. Russ takes horrible shots at the worst times. KDs not as good of an all around player as Bron but he has Lebron talent and as much as some people may not want to admit it he’s close to being as good as Bron talent wise but Bron does have him beat.
If you check the numbers kd got as many shots as he wanted in those series after harden left and shot basically the same percentages at russ. In reality the issues with them were a lack of shooters and role players outside the main guys.
But AD was always hurt and not even playing that well himself. I was honestly more pissed at AD this season in post games acting like he Bron’s level when he himself ain’t even doing it himself.
@@NewRimHoopsI didn't check the stats I saw those games westbrick is a trash pg and ball hog
Very interesting and makes a lot of sense
Love Perk
they lost because instead of being forward looking and building around their great small players they added perkins and built big like old school teams.
ibaka, green, kd, harden & a 3&D wing instead of russ is the ideal NBA team. switchable bigs. amazing shooting. instead they went with russ & perk. they could have been the warriors. sad.
had they just kept harden and traded russ OKC would have been a dynasty. ibaka was an amazing versatile 3&d big. harden & kd would have given you elite shooters who can go 1v1 and drive and kick. but they had no idea about what was to come in the 3 ball era. tell me analytics don’t matter.
Man stfu u don’t know what u talking lol
Thats the other “what if” that nobody seems to mention. Like what if Harden stayed instead of Russ? I believe they woulda had much more success
Trade your all star because your role player that just shot 30% in the finals wants more money 😂☑️ revisionist history crazy. Main reason they didn’t win more is because they were getting hurt back to back until 2015-16. Probably should’ve gotten SGs who could actually shoot around them, but only one team surrounded Russ with shooters for some reason and that’s when we saw the most efficient him.
@@GJTrae they didn’t have to trade right then and there. they had another year. yes. its not revisionist. it’s more hindsight is 20/20. but at the same time, moorey is a big analytics guy and went all in on harden because of it. so there were people who were ahead of the curve. OKC was playing russ and tabo in the backcourt together. with perk and ibake. talk about zero floor spacing. not to toot my own horn but i always though russ couldn’t play basketball. he is a freak athlete that has no idea how to play a non ball dominant game. so i do think people could see that russ had major bball issues. your GM just couldn’t let russ go.
I agree with Kendrick. This team was so incredibly good to break up the way they did. KD & Russ should have won at least 2 titles together but the egos ruined it. It’s a shame!
Russ who can’t shoot😂😂😂
@@eliasacheampong5830 your comment doesn’t even deserve a response
Well said
he speak the realest sht you can hate em but you can’t say he don’t speak facts he speak straight from the heart
KD might be the worst leader among the top 25 players ever.