My heart broke so much for Jeanne - all she wanted was justice for what had been done to her. And yet, yet she was so strong that she lived on in a way. If that isn't a powerful message than I don't know what is. In death there can be life, in misery there is beauty. This anime proves that.
The story itself is sad and tragic. All Jeanne and Jean wanted was a peaceful and quiet life, settle down and have a child or two, 'til that b*stard of a baron ruined it! I know Jeanne made the mistake of making a deal with the Devil, but in my opinion, I think the baron should have been punished. Jeanne was an innocent woman, until that dude came along.
@@Tsubasa2030 The film is supposed to have a strong feminist message. I'm upset the baron never got what he deserved, though. According to the director, the message is meant to be that nothing is black and white, even the devil can be sympathetic in a certain context. Jeanne WAS innocent. She never did a single thing wrong.
@@Tsubasa2030 It's highly likely he was punished off screen, actually. A significant amount of nobility and clergy were executed, during the French Revolution. And seeing how pissed off the peasants were that he killed her, after she helped them more than he did, it's safe to assume they put him to death, too. They likely killed Priest too, for the same reason
No he was coward that kept on living miserable life and finally realized that even if he dies he will stand up to the source of his pain the king. He loved her but was cowards and selfish. His fate was decided anyways die facing king early on or die later. But later came with more pain and shame for him
@@youngdegenerate1002 Which is why it's weird that the narrator said he was a kind man at the beginning. But you have to admit, he ended up trying to stop the execution, so she must've meant something to him.
I definitely get that. Jean turned on Jeanne when she needed him most, even abusing her when he turned to alcohol. But I also see with how the film utilizes how mob mentality and fear is utilized by those who seek power for control, it creates fear. Even when Jeanne was raped, the green growing on his body was a representation of fear that her body possesses devious energy. Jean was an example of how fear could tear them apart, but when seeing her being executed he finally realized it before he’d be killed too.
Or maybe he did wanted to help in the early times,but scared cuz people who gangr*ped his wife are people who are elites,and he doesn't have backup groups to help fight the group who r*ped Jeanne
It’s funny, i didn’t understand the movie the same way as some of the comments, especially the figure of the devil. I don’t think the devil villanized her actually, or that he was supposed to be a villain. “I am you” he said the first time they met, and as such, for me, he is the incarnation of her rebellion, and this rebellion expressed in different manners: her embracing her sexuality without shame, her achieving financial wealth thanks to the ambition the devil allowed her to embrace, her embracing her true nature finally towards the end. Her ambition and rebellion, this part of her she had repressed, and still fights against during half of the movie, could be represented by a devil because this is what has been taught to her by the people around her, the society she lives in: they see empowerment of women and of the oppressed in general as a sin (hence the two real bad guys of the story are the baron and the preacher, the two characters whose power is threatened by her in the movie, and coincidentally enough, the two symbolic authorities the French Revolution referenced at the end of the movie sought to eradicate - the clergy and the aristocracy). Hence the devil is not a bad figure, but appears threatening or scary at first to her, because she refuses to embrace this part of her, she knows the risks, and she is still embedded in the value system she grew up in. If anything, the devil gave her what she truly desired to set herself free, the dreadful consequences of this empowerment are only due to people who are afraid of her gaining power, not to the devil who literally is her (note that nobody else sees him). If she transforms into a witch, it’s because the figure of witches was instrumentalized in medieval Europe to categorize women who were threatening to the society and basically get rid of them (either because of their liberated sexuality, or because of the influence and power they had gained). The ones accusing these women actually often said the they were possessed by the devil. Nowadays, this figure is even often reappropriated by feminists to symbolize the freedom they want to achieve and the fact that they are still demonized for it (see Sorcières / Witches, the undefeated power of women by Mona Chollet).
Beautiful take on the message and theme of the movie. Really helped me understand and put togheter the milion thoughts i had in my head after finish the film. Truly thanks a lot!
Thank you, I didn't see it any way other than this as well. It seemed to me the devil was just a physical manifestation of her own wants and desires: she wanted freedom, to have her own life and free herself of the trauma she endured. I never thought that he tricked her into a life of witchcraft. It always seemed a strictly feminist tale of owning your sexuality and body.
From my view, the devil symbolizes her clitoris, meaning the power of her vagina. And the fact he has a sex scene with her further proves that point because he then refers to "give me your belly", meaning the power of her vagina transfigurates into the act of creation/transformation in her belly. Women sex power at its full. On the money element, I personally don't see as a proper use of this same power by Jeanne, on the contrary I see it as a suggestion of not using it because in the end it's fruitless, women by using the money power are going to clash against whoever has the upper hand in thinking about their own for their natural inclination, meaning men and men-based societal rules. Money can be useful but not in terms of accumulation per se but in terms of putting it to good use for other people, like it happens when jeanne sells the mule and like it happens with Jeanne helping other people to be better with the use of the Belladonna just for the sake of doing it, with no personal gain in between. It's the same thing the creator of the american comic book Character Wonder Woman thought, the true power of women relies on their vagina powers over men, in their unability to think for themselves in egotical ways (something like Jean does before finally changing his mind) and in their creation/transformation abilities, not in the continuous accumulation of money. In facts, it's one of the reasons why I love this movie so much, it embodies the same elements that man thought. Not all of them, but a shitload of them yes.
The way she said "Jean" as her final word is so heartbreaking. 😭 It makes me mad that the baron that started all this didn't receive any comeuppance whatsoever
Jeanne's death is quite horrific imo. Being crucified, tied to a wooden cross in chains, burned, and have the cross and her charred corpse crumble is quite a horrific sight.
Supposedly, there was an ending that had Jeanne burning and the devil was seen laughing (as he always does in this movie). The whole ending with the faces and the paintings were added in a later re-release. However, I have never seen the original ending.
a bit off topic but iirc i think there was a version of this movie with irl sex scenes? i remember it saying said scenes were shown when jeanne was having sex with the devil
Apparently, the faces of the women becoming Jeanne's was there since the original release. That makes sense, because this was foreshadowed in the story: the priest warned the lord how other women will be inspired by her, after she was captured when Jean didn't let her in. But the paintings about the French Revolution were added later
Purplebishop RPGandBoardGamer It’s also in Shudder (paid subscription, but 30 day free corona virus code SHUTIN is still valid when I typed this), Tubi (free), and Kanopy (free with library account and library card #).
Seems to be an instrumental of the main title song, but it's not included in the soundtrack release for some reason. Actually, a lot of songs from the movie aren't in the soundtrack. I don't know why.
I wish I could have a version of this song without the voices/sound effects. I always wondered why so many songs are absent from the official soundtrack, but maybe some mad lad would actually do it or recreate it by ear or some shit
It's quite a horrific sight imo. Most women who get burned for being a witch are normally tied to a stake, and the stake is still intact, but since they used a wooden cross for Jeanne that can barely stand the flames, it kinda makes her death ten times horrific. It's not just the cross that crumbles under the flames, but her charred body also crumbles to pieces too.
@@project_arianightcore7280Not all who got burned at stake are witches...Even the saint Joan of Arc got burned just for being a woman fighting for her country,and the same hypocrites from religion are the ones that murdered her
I feel like this would've been better if Jean had actually killed Lord Bonehead before being impaled, that way Jeanne would've hade some form of revenge on him.
Jeanne is actually the one who has won all along. Jean was too weak to change the world, while Jeanne died as a symbol of freedom for women. Jeanne was the beginning that led to the victory of the free over the laws of God.
@@LightSchiffer But Bonehead ended up killing her, and she ended up burning at the stake. The only thing she did to him was drain him of his respect from the villagers, and she indirectly got him to kill his own wife and page.
@@evancredeur7498 A character's death is not always its defeat. So many characters in animes, movies, books...have died in many ways, as heroes, as normal persons, victims, martyr, or even natural causes of death, or disease. If you enjoy anime, what do you think anime characters from various series such as L, Spike Spiegel, Lelouch Vi Britannia, Yang Wen-li, Cesar Zeppeli, Kamina...have died for ? They never died for nothing. NEVER. There was always a reason. The only thing in common is that the death of a character has something to tell, and is necessary for the other character's development. Jeanne died as a martyr in the eyes of the people. "We all are Jeanne", as shown by the women sharing her face. Jeanne became their symbol, their inspiration. The will of freedom of Jeanne lived on through them. That will of the dead that lives on through the ones who lives...THIS is why a character's death is always important. Lord Bonehead has won absolutelynothing, he remained the same all along, as a slave of his faith in religion, doing what he thought was the right thing to do. His model of society has fallen apart, because freedom is immensely is stronger than faith. "Belladonna of Sadness" is among the best feminist manifesto ever made, along with movies like Thelma & Louise. Belladonna of Sadness deserved so much more success instead of leading its animation studio to bankrupcy, especially for a movie that comes from Japan, a country where men and women are so far from equal at the time, and still is to this day.
Stupenda pellicola, certo non è chissà che cosa ma la sceneggiatura è interessante, l' animazione grafica non mi è piaciuta del tutto, ci sono degli errori come il fatto che usare qualcosa come la crocifissione per punire un criminale sarebbe impensabile nell'Europa cristiana. Forse i cineasti hanno utilizzato modelli giapponesi, dove era ampiamente utilizzato nel Giappone tradizionale, quindi stupenda e stupenda per me come valutazione è 8.
Because the horrible nobility and religious officials behind the European witch-hunts had no sense of irony, self-awareness, or basic human compassion.
She’s a Jesus allegory that’s why. She dies for the sins of women and part of her lives on in them. Like the father (the devil) the son (Jeanne), and the holy ghost(her spirit which has spread to others)
My heart broke so much for Jeanne - all she wanted was justice for what had been done to her. And yet, yet she was so strong that she lived on in a way. If that isn't a powerful message than I don't know what is. In death there can be life, in misery there is beauty. This anime proves that.
The ending feels so sorrowful and sad... yet... it is filled with glory.
The story itself is sad and tragic. All Jeanne and Jean wanted was a peaceful and quiet life, settle down and have a child or two, 'til that b*stard of a baron ruined it! I know Jeanne made the mistake of making a deal with the Devil, but in my opinion, I think the baron should have been punished. Jeanne was an innocent woman, until that dude came along.
@@Tsubasa2030 The film is supposed to have a strong feminist message. I'm upset the baron never got what he deserved, though. According to the director, the message is meant to be that nothing is black and white, even the devil can be sympathetic in a certain context. Jeanne WAS innocent. She never did a single thing wrong.
@@WobblesandBean And I was just saying my opinion about the tragedy. It makes me feel sad for Jeanne.
@@Tsubasa2030 It's highly likely he was punished off screen, actually. A significant amount of nobility and clergy were executed, during the French Revolution. And seeing how pissed off the peasants were that he killed her, after she helped them more than he did, it's safe to assume they put him to death, too. They likely killed Priest too, for the same reason
@@shadowthehedgehog181 seems like it. The baron is one of many people who are likely on the chopping block during the French Revolution.
I always cry when she calls his name 5:00
After all the pain she still loved him. It's so sad that he never value her love
No he was coward that kept on living miserable life and finally realized that even if he dies he will stand up to the source of his pain the king. He loved her but was cowards and selfish. His fate was decided anyways die facing king early on or die later. But later came with more pain and shame for him
@@youngdegenerate1002
Which is why it's weird that the narrator said he was a kind man at the beginning. But you have to admit, he ended up trying to stop the execution, so she must've meant something to him.
What about when he was charging towards the stake? Was he screaming her name, or was he just screaming?
Pissed me off how Jean tried to help Jeanne when it was too late. He turned her back on her for the majority of the movie.
Can't blame him, I wouldn't want to be with a woman who had multiple men forcibly inside her
I definitely get that. Jean turned on Jeanne when she needed him most, even abusing her when he turned to alcohol. But I also see with how the film utilizes how mob mentality and fear is utilized by those who seek power for control, it creates fear. Even when Jeanne was raped, the green growing on his body was a representation of fear that her body possesses devious energy. Jean was an example of how fear could tear them apart, but when seeing her being executed he finally realized it before he’d be killed too.
Or maybe he did wanted to help in the early times,but scared cuz people who gangr*ped his wife are people who are elites,and he doesn't have backup groups to help fight the group who r*ped Jeanne
It’s funny, i didn’t understand the movie the same way as some of the comments, especially the figure of the devil.
I don’t think the devil villanized her actually, or that he was supposed to be a villain. “I am you” he said the first time they met, and as such, for me, he is the incarnation of her rebellion, and this rebellion expressed in different manners: her embracing her sexuality without shame, her achieving financial wealth thanks to the ambition the devil allowed her to embrace, her embracing her true nature finally towards the end. Her ambition and rebellion, this part of her she had repressed, and still fights against during half of the movie, could be represented by a devil because this is what has been taught to her by the people around her, the society she lives in: they see empowerment of women and of the oppressed in general as a sin (hence the two real bad guys of the story are the baron and the preacher, the two characters whose power is threatened by her in the movie, and coincidentally enough, the two symbolic authorities the French Revolution referenced at the end of the movie sought to eradicate - the clergy and the aristocracy). Hence the devil is not a bad figure, but appears threatening or scary at first to her, because she refuses to embrace this part of her, she knows the risks, and she is still embedded in the value system she grew up in. If anything, the devil gave her what she truly desired to set herself free, the dreadful consequences of this empowerment are only due to people who are afraid of her gaining power, not to the devil who literally is her (note that nobody else sees him).
If she transforms into a witch, it’s because the figure of witches was instrumentalized in medieval Europe to categorize women who were threatening to the society and basically get rid of them (either because of their liberated sexuality, or because of the influence and power they had gained). The ones accusing these women actually often said the they were possessed by the devil. Nowadays, this figure is even often reappropriated by feminists to symbolize the freedom they want to achieve and the fact that they are still demonized for it (see Sorcières / Witches, the undefeated power of women by Mona Chollet).
i literally don't know anything about this but your comment seems to me to be the most accurate take here
Beautiful take on the message and theme of the movie. Really helped me understand and put togheter the milion thoughts i had in my head after finish the film. Truly thanks a lot!
Thank you, I didn't see it any way other than this as well. It seemed to me the devil was just a physical manifestation of her own wants and desires: she wanted freedom, to have her own life and free herself of the trauma she endured. I never thought that he tricked her into a life of witchcraft. It always seemed a strictly feminist tale of owning your sexuality and body.
Thank you for posting this.
From my view, the devil symbolizes her clitoris, meaning the power of her vagina. And the fact he has a sex scene with her further proves that point because he then refers to "give me your belly", meaning the power of her vagina transfigurates into the act of creation/transformation in her belly. Women sex power at its full. On the money element, I personally don't see as a proper use of this same power by Jeanne, on the contrary I see it as a suggestion of not using it because in the end it's fruitless, women by using the money power are going to clash against whoever has the upper hand in thinking about their own for their natural inclination, meaning men and men-based societal rules. Money can be useful but not in terms of accumulation per se but in terms of putting it to good use for other people, like it happens when jeanne sells the mule and like it happens with Jeanne helping other people to be better with the use of the Belladonna just for the sake of doing it, with no personal gain in between. It's the same thing the creator of the american comic book Character Wonder Woman thought, the true power of women relies on their vagina powers over men, in their unability to think for themselves in egotical ways (something like Jean does before finally changing his mind) and in their creation/transformation abilities, not in the continuous accumulation of money. In facts, it's one of the reasons why I love this movie so much, it embodies the same elements that man thought. Not all of them, but a shitload of them yes.
The way she said "Jean" as her final word is so heartbreaking. 😭
It makes me mad that the baron that started all this didn't receive any comeuppance whatsoever
Just like real life... Rarely do women who are victims of SA ever get to see proper justice...
Jean really tried to help when she was being set on fire and failed. Dudes been useless for pretty much most of the movie
Exactly, he turned his back on her long ago, for majority of the movie
If it had actually been a fight scene, it probably would've made him a tiny bit more honorable. Key word "tiny".
This movie lives rent free in the back of my mind. I love it
RIP Girlboss
I love this movie. It’s beautiful and full of sorrow, but the ending leaves on a bittersweet note. I think about it a lot.
This movie spoke to me in a way no other movie could ever have.
That's right repent and pray to her holiness
Saying this movie is immaculate is an understatement, truly deserves way more attention.
Jeanne's death is quite horrific imo. Being crucified, tied to a wooden cross in chains, burned, and have the cross and her charred corpse crumble is quite a horrific sight.
Supposedly, there was an ending that had Jeanne burning and the devil was seen laughing (as he always does in this movie). The whole ending with the faces and the paintings were added in a later re-release. However, I have never seen the original ending.
a bit off topic but iirc i think there was a version of this movie with irl sex scenes? i remember it saying said scenes were shown when jeanne was having sex with the devil
@@rosechannn9260 Yes. That's the version I've seen but none of it is irl, it's all still animation.
@@rosechannn9260
The Irl scenes were from an unreleased workprint of the film that was never shown to the public.
the faces ending works better, IMHO.
Apparently, the faces of the women becoming Jeanne's was there since the original release. That makes sense, because this was foreshadowed in the story: the priest warned the lord how other women will be inspired by her, after she was captured when Jean didn't let her in. But the paintings about the French Revolution were added later
so beautifully daunting
Beautiful artistry and animation but a sad one
I watched this on Tubi thursday night and it was something I felt a little weirded out. It's a great movie and it's kinda trippy to.
Wow, I stumbled on this video. And wow well done I loved it . Now Im going to have to try an find the movie an watch it.
Kissanime has it
I think it’s on iTunes
UA-cam I got it yesterday
Purplebishop RPGandBoardGamer It’s also in Shudder (paid subscription, but 30 day free corona virus code SHUTIN is still valid when I typed this), Tubi (free), and Kanopy (free with library account and library card #).
You can find this movie on Tubi
Not enough people talk about this movie
So therapeutic for reasons I have not a clue
I highly suggest reading Sylvia Federici's Caliban and the Witch, it's all about witch burnings
この物語の救いは革命だ。
Art.
Man this movie is fucked up. Absolute trip though.
I loved this film. I am her
We all are her
I feel sorry for her
This it
My Halloween costume every year…
Oh a movie about me
maybe, after seeing this, there is a chance I could at least love ONE anime ...
Just because this was made in japan doesnt mean its an anime.
Faust yes, its not even really animated
@@ether6697 anime literally just means japanese animation so this is an anime
@@rosechannn9260 no .
@@tristanour || okay so like can u like provide an argument as to how this somehow isn't anime sksksksskdj
2020 có ai xem ko
the music at 0:53 sounds slightly like the beginning of Queen Of Peace by Florence+The Machine
I don't hear anything.
Hey I'm looking for the song title used in this scene. It's extremely elusive
Seems to be an instrumental of the main title song, but it's not included in the soundtrack release for some reason. Actually, a lot of songs from the movie aren't in the soundtrack. I don't know why.
I wish I could have a version of this song without the voices/sound effects. I always wondered why so many songs are absent from the official soundtrack, but maybe some mad lad would actually do it or recreate it by ear or some shit
You could faintly see the outline of her charred body, before the cross crumbles...
It's quite a horrific sight imo. Most women who get burned for being a witch are normally tied to a stake, and the stake is still intact, but since they used a wooden cross for Jeanne that can barely stand the flames, it kinda makes her death ten times horrific.
It's not just the cross that crumbles under the flames, but her charred body also crumbles to pieces too.
@@project_arianightcore7280Not all who got burned at stake are witches...Even the saint Joan of Arc got burned just for being a woman fighting for her country,and the same hypocrites from religion are the ones that murdered her
This movie was visually stunning but a very unpleasant watch, I felt catharsis by the end though this was a really good ending
Was this edited? I remember the ending differently
no, it was not edited.
If Jeanne was Carrie, this would've ended differently for Bonehead and his soldiers.
Why the title people didn’t put “終” or “完” and subtitle “The End”?
What's is the name of the song?
It’s the instrumental version of the movie’s theme song,”Kanashimi No Belladonna(Belladonna Of Sadness)”
Sad
like jeanny arc
😢🤦🏾♀️😩
4:44 what is this song ?
The main theme song of the movie, Kanashimi no Belladonna.
The animation style is neat, but everything is just too...static. it's like telling the story by showing individual frames
Poor Jeanne.
Kötüyle baş olmaz der annem
6:40
¿Dónde puedo verla gratis? La he estado buscando hace años!! 😓
animeflv.ru/ver/61056/kanashimi-no-belladonna-1973-dvd
El youtube estás disponível
2:56
Seriously, who runs like that!?
Bruce Lee in revenge of the dragon
can anyone explain or give me their interpretation as to why the faces of the women changed to hers?
3:03
this is kind of like maude bowen
2:15
I feel like this would've been better if Jean had actually killed Lord Bonehead before being impaled, that way Jeanne would've hade some form of revenge on him.
Jeanne is actually the one who has won all along.
Jean was too weak to change the world, while Jeanne died as a symbol of freedom for women. Jeanne was the beginning that led to the victory of the free over the laws of God.
@@LightSchiffer
But Bonehead ended up killing her, and she ended up burning at the stake. The only thing she did to him was drain him of his respect from the villagers, and she indirectly got him to kill his own wife and page.
@@evancredeur7498 A character's death is not always its defeat.
So many characters in animes, movies, books...have died in many ways, as heroes, as normal persons, victims, martyr, or even natural causes of death, or disease.
If you enjoy anime, what do you think anime characters from various series such as L, Spike Spiegel, Lelouch Vi Britannia, Yang Wen-li, Cesar Zeppeli, Kamina...have died for ?
They never died for nothing. NEVER. There was always a reason.
The only thing in common is that the death of a character has something to tell, and is necessary for the other character's development.
Jeanne died as a martyr in the eyes of the people. "We all are Jeanne", as shown by the women sharing her face. Jeanne became their symbol, their inspiration. The will of freedom of Jeanne lived on through them. That will of the dead that lives on through the ones who lives...THIS is why a character's death is always important.
Lord Bonehead has won absolutelynothing, he remained the same all along, as a slave of his faith in religion, doing what he thought was the right thing to do. His model of society has fallen apart, because freedom is immensely is stronger than faith.
"Belladonna of Sadness" is among the best feminist manifesto ever made, along with movies like Thelma & Louise. Belladonna of Sadness deserved so much more success instead of leading its animation studio to bankrupcy, especially for a movie that comes from Japan, a country where men and women are so far from equal at the time, and still is to this day.
Stupenda pellicola, certo non è chissà che cosa ma la sceneggiatura è interessante, l' animazione grafica non mi è piaciuta del tutto, ci sono degli errori come il fatto che usare qualcosa come la crocifissione per punire un criminale sarebbe impensabile nell'Europa cristiana. Forse i cineasti hanno utilizzato modelli giapponesi, dove era ampiamente utilizzato nel Giappone tradizionale, quindi stupenda e stupenda per me come valutazione è 8.
Bruce lee in casino Dragon
This is the 1979 Belladonna ending :/
or 1986... The endings of those two should be the same
Anyways I can't find the endings of the pre-1979 versions on youtube and it's annoying
@@jaybokoblin
I can't find it period.
I left unfulfilled.
Why is belladonna crucified like me Jesus
Because the horrible nobility and religious officials behind the European witch-hunts had no sense of irony, self-awareness, or basic human compassion.
She’s a Jesus allegory that’s why. She dies for the sins of women and part of her lives on in them. Like the father (the devil) the son (Jeanne), and the holy ghost(her spirit which has spread to others)
Even the greedy governments are the ones that murdered Jesus,you'll not be surprised why
Hentai + art
that was kinda funny
that sad
I mean, that sound editing and that shitty 70s music made it kinda funny to me
@@carloshijueputa9655 are you ok?
@@ihatefanserviceanime364 No. I don't think he is.
Children shouldn't be allowed to watch this.