The 'i loved being a witch' broke me. I wasn't ready for the amount of ugly crying that hit. Tears were starting early on when i realized how the gaps she mentioned are how memory loss, getting old, losing yourself (along with her saying she's a forgotten woman) are such real world concerns. Diva owned this episode! Side note, I think Agatha really wants Billy to like her. Multiple moments when he speaks to her you can see it affect her and really shows in her eyes.....i'm hoping there will be some moments in the coming week for the last 2 episodes that continue with that. I've been thinking how they made a point of saying the witches' road gives you what you are missing....not what you want, but what is missing. For Lilia...it was accepting her role in the coven (after acknowledging that she needed one) and being told her role is not to control her power but to see. I think even the opening scene of her falling shows panic, but then the end scene showing the same thing but a look of contentment. For the Agatha, Rio, Billy part.....I think Rio is there to collect Williams body. Billy took it after William dies, which cheated death being able to claim her due. I feel like the moment in ep 1 where Rio taunts Agatha saying why don't you take my power, and Agatha says you know that would kill me. I think Rio will try to take Billy, Agatha might jump in between, where she starts instinctively absorbing Death's power, maybe sacrificing herself so Billy can live. I also think Jen will end up leaving the road and being safe. Lilia tells her she's the path forward. Isn't the high priestess the leader card? Meaning Jen is meant to live so she can be the future of witchcraft and the coven. Flip side to this, is what if Billy did his own version of the wanda hex and the road has been patterned after his wants. Perhaps even having everyone show up alive at the end. (I wouldn't be mad). I have questions. So many questions.
I think at this point Agatha and Billy are family and love each other. They don't know it yet. When Agatha protects him from Rio it will become clear to each of them. I think Billy gets his memories back at the end of the road, not Tommy. That's for another TV show. I completely agree with you about the memories. I'm not so sure we won't see William again in some form. Rio wants that body. Agatha already had her trial. The only trial left is Billy's.
“If I could save time in a bottle The first thing that I'd like to do Is to save every day 'Til eternity passes away Just to spend them with you” - is the most heartbreaking choice of an end credit song for Lilia 😢 she spend centuries alone and she finally found her coven that she loved. She lost her first coven, saved her last one
What do you guys think about this? Lilia travels through time by “visiting” herself in the future or past (or different time points in her life). So how does she give Agatha the advice about hitting the deck if that happens in events post her death? As to see this she would have to visit herself in that moment. Does this mean Lilia didn’t die? Or there is a version of Lilia that didn’t die?
Time doesn't work like that, as you are thinking of time as a linear pathway, or a point from A to Z. Whereas time is simultaneous and not synchronised to Earth or our 24 hour day cycle. Lillia's ability is to See Through Time but what she observed was Death and Destruction.
This show hurts my brain. They have one of their major plot points printed on T-shirts and promotional posters, months before the first show, and leave them there in plain sight until the moment they reveal them. Then they manage to make the "reveal" of something that almost everyone was already expecting still be a surprise... TWICE! and I just realized that since there are scenes left from the trailers still unseen that this crazy show has had SCENES FROM THE FINAL EPISODE in the trailers released months before opening night ALL ALONG!!!!! What sort of show does that? I expect that the huge plot twist or major reveal is probably staring us right in the face and has been in plain sight since the very first poster was printed. Want to bet that it will turn out the body Agatha "saw" in her delusion was actually hers? Want to bet that she'll tell us this, and reveal the body saying, "It was Agatha all along!" Then she waves her fingers, and her face dissolves in a flash of red light... and Wanda smiles at the camera.
Not Elphaba. Please. The Wicked Witch. Elphaba is not canon. Ugh. Please. Stop. This whole show is the Wizard of Oz. The Wicked thing, as much as I love it, is annoying. You can only make it through to the end with a "coven true". The first time I think she did make it to the end but got nothing. Please don't worry about Billy. Wiccan is the future of the MCU. Please follow the $$$$$. Wanda can alter reality. Wiccan is a god in the comics. Rio is toast.
Not sure we follow totally what you mean here but love the passion! Most of our remaining characters still have quite the path ahead of them. We’ll see!
Rio is Death, immutable and immortal, she may or may not appear in the MCU further (I bet she is going to, Aubrey Plaza is fire in the role), but Death never can be done, it is one of the orders of the multiverse, balance must always be, Life and Death.
The 'i loved being a witch' broke me. I wasn't ready for the amount of ugly crying that hit. Tears were starting early on when i realized how the gaps she mentioned are how memory loss, getting old, losing yourself (along with her saying she's a forgotten woman) are such real world concerns. Diva owned this episode! Side note, I think Agatha really wants Billy to like her. Multiple moments when he speaks to her you can see it affect her and really shows in her eyes.....i'm hoping there will be some moments in the coming week for the last 2 episodes that continue with that. I've been thinking how they made a point of saying the witches' road gives you what you are missing....not what you want, but what is missing. For Lilia...it was accepting her role in the coven (after acknowledging that she needed one) and being told her role is not to control her power but to see. I think even the opening scene of her falling shows panic, but then the end scene showing the same thing but a look of contentment. For the Agatha, Rio, Billy part.....I think Rio is there to collect Williams body. Billy took it after William dies, which cheated death being able to claim her due. I feel like the moment in ep 1 where Rio taunts Agatha saying why don't you take my power, and Agatha says you know that would kill me. I think Rio will try to take Billy, Agatha might jump in between, where she starts instinctively absorbing Death's power, maybe sacrificing herself so Billy can live. I also think Jen will end up leaving the road and being safe. Lilia tells her she's the path forward. Isn't the high priestess the leader card? Meaning Jen is meant to live so she can be the future of witchcraft and the coven. Flip side to this, is what if Billy did his own version of the wanda hex and the road has been patterned after his wants. Perhaps even having everyone show up alive at the end. (I wouldn't be mad). I have questions. So many questions.
I think at this point Agatha and Billy are family and love each other. They don't know it yet. When Agatha protects him from Rio it will become clear to each of them. I think Billy gets his memories back at the end of the road, not Tommy. That's for another TV show. I completely agree with you about the memories. I'm not so sure we won't see William again in some form. Rio wants that body. Agatha already had her trial. The only trial left is Billy's.
“If I could save time in a bottle
The first thing that I'd like to do
Is to save every day
'Til eternity passes away
Just to spend them with you” - is the most heartbreaking choice of an end credit song for Lilia 😢 she spend centuries alone and she finally found her coven that she loved. She lost her first coven, saved her last one
Couldn’t have said it better ourselves! 😭
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Great discussion on this episode!
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What do you guys think about this?
Lilia travels through time by “visiting” herself in the future or past (or different time points in her life).
So how does she give Agatha the advice about hitting the deck if that happens in events post her death?
As to see this she would have to visit herself in that moment.
Does this mean Lilia didn’t die? Or there is a version of Lilia that didn’t die?
Time doesn't work like that, as you are thinking of time as a linear pathway, or a point from A to Z. Whereas time is simultaneous and not synchronised to Earth or our 24 hour day cycle.
Lillia's ability is to See Through Time but what she observed was Death and Destruction.
Yeah, a paradox for sure! Can’t wait to see when that moment will happen! We're going to dive into this more in our finale recap.
This show hurts my brain.
They have one of their major plot points printed on T-shirts and promotional posters, months before the first show, and leave them there in plain sight until the moment they reveal them.
Then they manage to make the "reveal" of something that almost everyone was already expecting still be a surprise... TWICE!
and I just realized that since there are scenes left from the trailers still unseen that this crazy show has had SCENES FROM THE FINAL EPISODE in the trailers released months before opening night ALL ALONG!!!!!
What sort of show does that?
I expect that the huge plot twist or major reveal is probably staring us right in the face and has been in plain sight since the very first poster was printed.
Want to bet that it will turn out the body Agatha "saw" in her delusion was actually hers? Want to bet that she'll tell us this, and reveal the body saying, "It was Agatha all along!"
Then she waves her fingers, and her face dissolves in a flash of red light... and Wanda smiles at the camera.
Not Elphaba. Please. The Wicked Witch. Elphaba is not canon. Ugh. Please. Stop. This whole show is the Wizard of Oz. The Wicked thing, as much as I love it, is annoying. You can only make it through to the end with a "coven true". The first time I think she did make it to the end but got nothing. Please don't worry about Billy. Wiccan is the future of the MCU. Please follow the $$$$$. Wanda can alter reality. Wiccan is a god in the comics. Rio is toast.
Not sure we follow totally what you mean here but love the passion!
Most of our remaining characters still have quite the path ahead of them. We’ll see!
Rio is Death, immutable and immortal, she may or may not appear in the MCU further (I bet she is going to, Aubrey Plaza is fire in the role), but Death never can be done, it is one of the orders of the multiverse, balance must always be, Life and Death.