I imagine they are studying the other nest predators not mentioned, such as: snakes and fire ants. Owls ( & other birds) like the Turkeys, too. It is sad just how many things in the forests like to eat turkeys. I’m very THANKFUL for all the research and Researchers, predator culling and land maintenance! I don’t shoot Turkeys (I do hunt) but I sure do love their gobbling and successful nesting and existence.
Here southern VA. I know one guy three Coyote's in three mornings in row. Heading to the gobble. I also know four fellow turkey hunters who blasted coyotes. The one I called in, saw me swing Gun barrel and left me in dust & leaves. The past two seasons Coyote pressure has been on a rise. I've really been thinking about trapping. Maybe you guys at Hunting The Public could make a information video with some real good trapper's to help us trap more to protect the future of turkey hunting. Also love y'all's work and you have help me become a better turkey hunter and caller. Keep up the great work. Till next spring 🦃-"gobble"-🦃!!!
Your efforts show you (THP) are SO much more than hunters. We (hunters) are painted in a light which doesn't do us any justice. Thank you for breaking the stereotype. We ALL benefit, hunters AND non-hunters alike.
Old secret to turkey brooding, loosely piled burn piles and a lot of them in a new land clearing, then allow it to go unburned and sit for a few years.. Hard to look at but if its in the back 40 worth it
As a hunter I can tell you public land looks better for timber production than wildlife. Turkey need good ground nesting cover low grasses with some tree cover, open green areas for turkey feeding and poults.
Another great and informative video. As others have said, we really appreciate the time and effort you all put in to these educational videos. They make me look at the land differently now. We all want to do more to help the animals we love and love to go after.
You are right. Coons, oppsims, skunks etc are a huge factor. After hatching, so are coyotes, foxes and bobcats. Don’t forget the great horned owls! I lost several eastern wild turkeys due to owl predation.
Great to hear MDC is doing such an extensive study to help all of us understand more thoroughly what can and should be done in the controllable areas to help the birds have the best opportunity for success. Thank you THP for getting the word out!
The population in highland county Oh is not even half what it was 15 years ago. Now we have Bobcats and amish logging all the big roosting trees. It's truly sad to me.
I think there needs to be more discussion about the impact that farming practices have on survival. Pesticides especially (considering the impact of insects in survival rates) are directly impacting the food sources. Herbicides kill every weed/seed producing plant that feeds pheasant and turkey poult.
This is so interesting, I was shed hunting today on public land, and found a turkey nest presumably from last year that looked to me like it had been robbed but after they talked about it all the eggs were together and looked like the tops had been popped as they described, so that’s really interesting
Thanks for doing this video. As someone who is working towards improving habitat and food sources for turkeys and deer on my property I appreciate all the info. Please keep us updated on their research!
As an avid turkey hunter for decades now, I can really appreciate the work these fine folks are performing for the survival of the wild turkey. I hope to monitor turkey nests this year by using trail cams. I also hope to provide good nesting conditions, and do some predator control. Great video, and very educational.
Id love to see you guys get up with Dr. Woods from growing deer. His show is where i realized that youtubes hinting content was leaps and bounds ahead of cable for the most part.
very interesting to see that in other parts of the country the turkey populations are down as well we here in NY felt that when we started seeing the coyotes we stop seeing the turkeys it would be interesting to see the results keep us posted THP
I'd also like to add a Huge Thank You to MDC, THP, and the research team at MU for sponsoring this vital project, Please Keep Up the Great Work! My younger brother also went to MU and has a degree in animal and fisheries biology. He still works for MU except now in a administrative role. He still lives and works in Columbia Mo. with his wife and 2 sons, his wife is an FBI agent that has an accounting degree from MU.
They've declined pretty rapidly in central ky. I got to work in the restoration end of it many many moons ago. Got to set and document what birds was coming into a net site many times. The boxing and transporting takes a lot to make happen. All efforts was a huge success. When our county opened up I was able and old enough to solo hunt these birds.(13ish). I got to see the booming years. If bird didn't want to work, hey walk 200yrds and get on another one. It was NICE. Those same grounds today you might hunt 3 days before finding a gobbling bird. I hunted 19 days last yr and got to work 1 adult male that my gf shot. And I covered 3 counties.
@@davidallen5396 15yrs ago you couldn't drive 5mi without seeing a bird. Through most of ky. I can't remember when the last time I seen a bird from a road. Its getting bad. I use to be loaded. Fall flocks of 60ish birds, might have 6 now.
@@FallLineLegionwe use to be booming. We grew so fast that in just a short time we were having a fall season. Which we needed due to hen numbers were starting to get crazy dangerous. I was bless with being around biologists at a young age and watching the turkey program grow. But it seems like the harder I try to build that habitat my numbers keep dropping.
@The Hunting Public: Thanks for posting and thanks for their hard work, this was very educational for this 60-year-old man, always learning if one pays attention! "KEEP ON KEEPIN ON"
U guys should try and speak too Grant Woods from growing deer t.v. his property is managed for deer and turkey and he has seen a huge increase in turkey population over his years of managing the property. I would bet he has plenty of input on this matter as well as tips too help other land owner achieve similar results. And with ur questions I believe it would be great.
I live in Missouri audrain County to be precise glad to see this date trying to do what they could do to help the wild turkey. Hope this is going on in other states. This is a great video and I am glad to be able to see it thank you very much. Keep up the good work
Awesome video! Sounds like this team is doing a great job to find out what's going on with the turkey population. I would bet that what they find out is also going on across a lot of the Midwest.
I hope you guys are more professional than my turkey professionals were. I am being nice. 1). First the CDW told me that turkeys could not survive at my altitude cuz the air is to thin. At the same time I had multiple eastern wild turkeys living in my barn and had hatched several nests. 2). I had several turkeys escape after Clinton, my big gobbler, got air borne and smashed a barn window. I was not able to recover all of them. 3). Fast forward a few years. Our village is a high end village that abuts a national park. So deer and elk are acclimated to traffic and tourist handouts. The normal cast of predators tend to stay away. 4). The turkey population has exploded and they wonder thru folks yards. Many feed the turkeys. Today, it’s not uncommon to see groups of ten or 20 turkeys. They have attracted native wild turkeys as well. Turkeys do very well in suburban environments especially if there are handouts. They are most vulnerable at the nest and during their first month. So managing predators is absolutely critical. Also, turkeys are adaptable but want a private nest environment. So stress on turkeys finding a quiet nest is critical. Otherwise they shut down laying. Blissful quiet and peace along with good low floor cover will get them broody.
This is a great video that really helps the turkey hunting community to understand the efforts being put into the research of wild turkeys. I think we can all appreciate the efforts of the wildlife biologists to get meaningful data that hopefully results in getting increased sustainable populations of these great birds!!! I’m thankful for these great efforts.👍🏼🙏🏻
This was the most detail I have seen about the wild turkey study up there in Putnam county, Mo. Great job THP for putting this together! This video convinced me to subscribe to your channel,,,
We all knew what she meant. Geology’s of them??? Genealogy maybe? While we are knitpicking and all… hopefully you took some valuable info from the video and not just trying to belittle people trying to benefit wild Turkey
I mean we see predators numbers through the roof i mean shouldn’t we put a big dent in the predator population, turkeys are just a big chickens in the woods
Thank You for bringing this subject and great work that is going on to keep our favorite bird around . Keep up the great channel ,Hunting The Public. Thanks guys.
Thanks Warb...glad to see it is being taken so seriously. Fireants weren't mentioned, but I have heard they really affect new born quail and think they may be a real problem for turkey poults.
Great info. Wish we could fast forward these study's for immediate things we might do maybe thp. can do more vids on this. Fires in the woods scare me ,I do my bush hogging later in the yr should I be doing it earlier . Maybe there's a map to follow based on science rather than opinions. Seen the grouse go hate to see Turkey's leave, deer down also. Have not seen any info if Turkey's r affected by disease ehd or others.thanks thp and mo. Study team:
Love the turkey research related content! Who will be interpreting all of this data? In listening to and reading some of Tyl’s work I would understand that she believes that habitat is the main factor (which it may very well be) but if that is the preconceived notion going into this study I fear it could affect how the results are tallied and published if the data shows that other factors are equally important. THP you guys have done a GREAT job of looking at all angles of this! Keep up the good work!
Man where in Linn county mo we had a tornado come through about 10 years ago during nesting season the population went down really low since we seen more bird's last deer season then we have for a while hopefully the #'s are coming back up
Hey htp I have a question I live in western Massachusetts and the past few years I’ve personally observed barred owls taking out a whole nest out poults and I’ve also noticed the owls eating the eggs as well ? Is normal for owls I figured eating poults yes but I didn’t think they would care much for an egg and last year I saw them break open and eat eggs at two of my hunting spots
Interesting. They never mentioned climate change as an alternative hypothesis for the turkey declines. They will be measuring weather, but looking retrospectively at climate changes in the area might be interesting too.
Scientists, most important job is to keep the funding coming. If they ever find the answer to anything the funding would stop, and that would be bad for them.
I can't speak for Missouri Dept of Conservation but here in NC/SC the Dept of Conservation actually introduced coyotes several years ago to help control the deer population. I've never agreed with this tactic at all. Coyotes have thrived and taking a huge toll on ground nesting birds. Not to mention trapping season should be year round and some sort of bounty placed on coyotes and coons. Every state keeps raising the price of hunting licenses and practicing poor management of these species that we as hunters enjoy. It's sad that my kids may never see a quail or get the chance to hunt turkeys like we have been so lucky to do.
Another informative video great job I would like to throw another factor in if the majority of the decline is in the southeast is it possible the effects of more frequent and intense storms that we have in the spring over the last 15 years with all the rain and flooding could be a factor.
Aaron are they also studying the possible impact that the chemicals the farmers use on their crops? I have heard that the chemicals are making the eggs soft and when the hens sit on them it breaks them. Great video!!
Your comment makes me think of glycophosphate first and foremost. By the late 90's conventional corn and soybeans were nearly dinosaurs. But it also reminds me of the gobbler I came across one day during the spring season several years ago that was acting bizarre. No fear of me whatsoever. He was out in a freshly planted cornfield eating the seed corn that's treated with a chemical cocktail.
The decline in Turkey population s has been an ongoing problem, I don’t own the land I hunt so land management is out of the question for me, I do however have coon dogs so that’s the small area of the big picture I can work on.
cant help but think about how the crash of fur prices 20yrs ago shut down coon & fox hunting. all of those critters have very little predators so their impact down the food chain would be great.
Very interesting and informative video. Great work!! Down here in Alabama like a lot of the south we are over run with wild hogs and fire ants. With group effort we kill hundreds of hogs in the area a year. One would think that they would have a large impact on the survival of nest. Also in the areas where I hunt we have very large amount of barred owls and hawks. Since owls are primarily night hunters the poults would be very easy prey for them especially during the time when they first start flying to roost and hawks could easily pick them off while they feed. Just curious if you have heard any studies on the impact of these predators?
I’ve spent my life hunting grouse and turkey’s,, and this is what I would like to share with these professionals,, and I am 65 years old so I have fifty years of hunting experience. I have harvested over 100 ruffed grouse in and on one holler , from the spring head down stream for half mile , this took ten seasons , during those ten years I saw no deer or turkeys and six or so bears ,,today ,,ten years after my last time to shoot a grouse in that hollar , you can walk that spring up to the spring head and it’s full of deer and turkeys and there are absolutely zero grouse ,, this land has not changed , built upon ,, or any other major land change except for one thing ,,,back during the huge population of grouse I never heard or saw any great horned owls ,, now this land is full of owls. But no grouse.
Ruffed grouse thrive in young forests, after 50 years that timber has grown and matured significantly. Sounds like a clear cut or heavy harvest will help your grouse
@@andrewhelton2373 in 1995 I flushed Covey’s of grouse , a hen and her polts in certain places and I would not shoot in them , at the start of season she would have a covey of ten , in august an September, then each month after that the covey would only decrease during the time of November when the leaves come off the trees and then these non shooting at Covey’s would fall in half down to four or five birds , in my opinion predators eat half of what grouse are born each year but that never hurt the fact that there was grouse there , and yes one side of this spring was cut over , the other was a steep laurel bank , the big difference occurred when the turkey and deer took over.
I have a couple bearded hens in my neighborhood but never see any poults with them. And now both those bearded hens hang together. I have always wondered if they did not breed or if their poults were picked off.
All this is great, but until prices go up on fur and people start trapping again the Turkey population is screwed. And with climate change the way it is turkey poults dont have a chance. I know in Arkansas the population where I hunt went from great 20yrs ago to not even wanting to hunt turkeys anymore. Hawks here have a bad impact. And we have too many hawks. I've had hawks take down full size decoys.
I have a few questions: First one is How Tall is Aaron? Because all of these researchers look like they barely come up to Aaron's shoulders. Next question: How much of an impact do you think that the decline of Turkeys in Mo. has to do with trappers giving up on trapping because of the Fur Market Crash several years ago? I know of many trappers including myself that have given up on trapping because there's no money in it, a guy can't even make enough to justify the fuel cost to run a trapline.
@chadstaxidermy; 39 out of 51 survived I'm pretty sure is what they said! 1 was seven years old and 2 were at least five years old that lived! 'KEEP ON KEEPIN ON'
Crows are very smart but are also very destructive on nests bc they are smart enough to find a sitting hen and nest and rob it. I bet they would also kill young poults but idk. That’s why I never feel bad about smoking as many crows as I can during crow season.
Here in Arkansas the turkeys 🦃 population is very poor. It’s been serval years since I’ve seen any baby turkeys 🦃. And it’s been awhile since I’ve seen adult turkeys 🦃. Love y’all videos keep them coming. God blessed y’all and be safe out there.
Turkey and populations are down almost over. Wanna know why is because the division of wildlife is fucking stupid. Releasing bobcats, mink, and predator animals instead of planting habitats and lowering numbers. The government is the issue
It's just not rocket science. If your pph is down it's either weather, predation or habitat. For the most part the primary and easiest and cheapest and most enjoyable solution is to trap, trap and trap. Secondary, if you already have turkeys that is, is to build better habitat via timber management, food plotting and proper firing. This new style computer research ( vs person in the field eyes and ears and feet on the ground) and it's gadget requirements is unbelievably costly, running into the hundreds and thousands if not millions of dollars and honestly provides us with nothing Davis hasn't already covered. Dr Grant Woods or either of the Buxton family should be everyone's go-to when they have questions and want to increase their turkeys.
Ever since thp started releasing how they turkey hunt the population is going down !😂😂. But on a serious note stop allowing out of state hunting that will help each state’s turkey population!!
I really appreciate all the effort THP, and all these awesome scientists that have been working hard for the turkeys
No doubt!
Outstanding video, as a turkey hunter I thank you for the enlightening education.
I have been trapping raccoons and opossums for the past 10 years and have seen my turkey population rebound during that timeframe.
I imagine they are studying the other nest predators not mentioned, such as: snakes and fire ants. Owls ( & other birds) like the Turkeys, too. It is sad just how many things in the forests like to eat turkeys. I’m very THANKFUL for all the research and Researchers, predator culling and land maintenance! I don’t shoot Turkeys (I do hunt) but I sure do love their gobbling and successful nesting and existence.
Here southern VA. I know one guy three Coyote's in three mornings in row. Heading to the gobble. I also know four fellow turkey hunters who blasted coyotes. The one I called in, saw me swing Gun barrel and left me in dust & leaves. The past two seasons Coyote pressure has been on a rise. I've really been thinking about trapping. Maybe you guys at Hunting The Public could make a information video with some real good trapper's to help us trap more to protect the future of turkey hunting. Also love y'all's work and you have help me become a better turkey hunter and caller. Keep up the great work. Till next spring 🦃-"gobble"-🦃!!!
Your efforts show you (THP) are SO much more than hunters. We (hunters) are painted in a light which doesn't do us any justice. Thank you for breaking the stereotype. We ALL benefit, hunters AND non-hunters alike.
Old secret to turkey brooding, loosely piled burn piles and a lot of them in a new land clearing, then allow it to go unburned and sit for a few years.. Hard to look at but if its in the back 40 worth it
MDC- one of the best state wildlife agencies in the world!!!
As a hunter I can tell you public land looks better for timber production than wildlife. Turkey need good ground nesting cover low grasses with some tree cover, open green areas for turkey feeding and poults.
Another great and informative video. As others have said, we really appreciate the time and effort you all put in to these educational videos. They make me look at the land differently now. We all want to do more to help the animals we love and love to go after.
Well said!!
THP does it all
People don't trap like they use to that took out racoon and opossum in huge numbers. That's what hurts here in NC
You are right. Coons, oppsims, skunks etc are a huge factor. After hatching, so are coyotes, foxes and bobcats. Don’t forget the great horned owls! I lost several eastern wild turkeys due to owl predation.
Great to hear MDC is doing such an extensive study to help all of us understand more thoroughly what can and should be done in the controllable areas to help the birds have the best opportunity for success. Thank you THP for getting the word out!
The population in highland county Oh is not even half what it was 15 years ago. Now we have Bobcats and amish logging all the big roosting trees. It's truly sad to me.
We as hunters and nature lovers as well owe these students a big THANK You!!!
The reason why there’s less turkeys is because fur was worth something back in the day so people trapped and now we don’t
Please keep producing these videos!!!, very informative and helpful for us hunters and wildlife lovers of all ages.
Agreed!
I think there needs to be more discussion about the impact that farming practices have on survival. Pesticides especially (considering the impact of insects in survival rates) are directly impacting the food sources. Herbicides kill every weed/seed producing plant that feeds pheasant and turkey poult.
Good thought!
This is so interesting, I was shed hunting today on public land, and found a turkey nest presumably from last year that looked to me like it had been robbed but after they talked about it all the eggs were together and looked like the tops had been popped as they described, so that’s really interesting
The population across the country is declining raises a question for sure. Grateful for those that care enough to find out why. THANK YOU !
We all know the biggest factor is predators… that’s the biggest part then the rest trickles down
Thanks for doing this video. As someone who is working towards improving habitat and food sources for turkeys and deer on my property I appreciate all the info. Please keep us updated on their research!
Same!
As an avid turkey hunter for decades now, I can really appreciate the work these fine folks are performing for the survival of the wild turkey. I hope to monitor turkey nests this year by using trail cams. I also hope to provide good nesting conditions, and do some predator control. Great video, and very educational.
Id love to see you guys get up with Dr. Woods from growing deer. His show is where i realized that youtubes hinting content was leaps and bounds ahead of cable for the most part.
very interesting to see that in other parts of the country the turkey populations are down as well we here in NY felt that when we started seeing the coyotes we stop seeing the turkeys it would be interesting to see the results keep us posted THP
Im really enjoying these wildife conservation/habitat improvement videos.
Interesting that the technology improves and we can learn more at the same time technology improves and we clear more land and disrupt more habitat
In our area the red tail hawks are just smashing the young turkey when there the size of a chicken
This is a quite interesting topic
I'd also like to add a Huge Thank You to MDC, THP, and the research team at MU for sponsoring this vital project, Please Keep Up the Great Work! My younger brother also went to MU and has a degree in animal and fisheries biology. He still works for MU except now in a administrative role. He still lives and works in Columbia Mo. with his wife and 2 sons, his wife is an FBI agent that has an accounting degree from MU.
🙏🏼👍🏻
They've declined pretty rapidly in central ky. I got to work in the restoration end of it many many moons ago. Got to set and document what birds was coming into a net site many times. The boxing and transporting takes a lot to make happen. All efforts was a huge success. When our county opened up I was able and old enough to solo hunt these birds.(13ish). I got to see the booming years. If bird didn't want to work, hey walk 200yrds and get on another one. It was NICE. Those same grounds today you might hunt 3 days before finding a gobbling bird. I hunted 19 days last yr and got to work 1 adult male that my gf shot. And I covered 3 counties.
Ive heard this from a few people about central KY
The birds are gone are bout gone in my area in Lincoln Co Ky it once was great hunting
@@davidallen5396 15yrs ago you couldn't drive 5mi without seeing a bird. Through most of ky. I can't remember when the last time I seen a bird from a road. Its getting bad. I use to be loaded. Fall flocks of 60ish birds, might have 6 now.
@@FallLineLegionwe use to be booming. We grew so fast that in just a short time we were having a fall season. Which we needed due to hen numbers were starting to get crazy dangerous. I was bless with being around biologists at a young age and watching the turkey program grow. But it seems like the harder I try to build that habitat my numbers keep dropping.
Thats insane! Gotta take care of the resource while we can!
@The Hunting Public: Thanks for posting and thanks for their hard work, this was very educational for this 60-year-old man, always learning if one pays attention!
"KEEP ON KEEPIN ON"
U guys should try and speak too Grant Woods from growing deer t.v. his property is managed for deer and turkey and he has seen a huge increase in turkey population over his years of managing the property. I would bet he has plenty of input on this matter as well as tips too help other land owner achieve similar results. And with ur questions I believe it would be great.
That is dedication and education, I am very impressed and thankful for those individuals who dedicate their lives for any cause to benefit animal life
Please do an update video on this. I’d like to hear what they end up finding out. Great video.
Love this!
I live in Missouri audrain County to be precise glad to see this date trying to do what they could do to help the wild turkey. Hope this is going on in other states. This is a great video and I am glad to be able to see it thank you very much. Keep up the good work
Awesome video! Sounds like this team is doing a great job to find out what's going on with the turkey population. I would bet that what they find out is also going on across a lot of the Midwest.
Kentucky Fish and Wildlife said one thing they thought was affecting turkey hatch success was landowners' bushhogging habits.
Let's add chicken hawks and owls to the poult predators please
I hope you guys are more professional than my turkey professionals were. I am being nice.
1). First the CDW told me that turkeys could not survive at my altitude cuz the air is to thin. At the same time I had multiple eastern wild turkeys living in my barn and had hatched several nests.
2). I had several turkeys escape after Clinton, my big gobbler, got air borne and smashed a barn window. I was not able to recover all of them.
3). Fast forward a few years. Our village is a high end village that abuts a national park. So deer and elk are acclimated to traffic and tourist handouts. The normal cast of predators tend to stay away.
4). The turkey population has exploded and they wonder thru folks yards. Many feed the turkeys. Today, it’s not uncommon to see groups of ten or 20 turkeys. They have attracted native wild turkeys as well.
Turkeys do very well in suburban environments especially if there are handouts. They are most vulnerable at the nest and during their first month. So managing predators is absolutely critical.
Also, turkeys are adaptable but want a private nest environment. So stress on turkeys finding a quiet nest is critical. Otherwise they shut down laying. Blissful quiet and peace along with good low floor cover will get them broody.
This is a great video that really helps the turkey hunting community to understand the efforts being put into the research of wild turkeys. I think we can all appreciate the efforts of the wildlife biologists to get meaningful data that hopefully results in getting increased sustainable populations of these great birds!!! I’m thankful for these great efforts.👍🏼🙏🏻
No doubt! Well said
This is a great group of young minds and the will to work for the good of wild life. Thanks for your Invoment ,aLRob.
Very informative, appreciate research effort. Sharing with others that have same concerns about future of wild turkey decline.
Thanks Jake for taking the time i enjoy your videos.... looking forward to see more turkeys,,, i'm clearing woods as we speak for more turkey habitat
This was the most detail I have seen about the wild turkey study up there in Putnam county, Mo. Great job THP for putting this together! This video convinced me to subscribe to your channel,,,
Great video. Awesome job of the Missouri guys and gals. Glad for their research.
@29:40, my brother's cousin, would also be his cousin. Glad they are researching turkeys poult survival and not genealogy of them.
We all knew what she meant. Geology’s of them??? Genealogy maybe? While we are knitpicking and all… hopefully you took some valuable info from the video and not just trying to belittle people trying to benefit wild Turkey
@@-B_G- lol i didn't see that!!
Interesting this video came out today. I have free range turkeys in my yard and found the first egg of the year today.
Love the insight and info you and the scientists’ provided here!
These information video's are amazing, really enjoy this. Keep these type of videos coming. Thanks.
I mean we see predators numbers through the roof i mean shouldn’t we put a big dent in the predator population, turkeys are just a big chickens in the woods
Thank You for bringing this subject and great work that is going on to keep our favorite bird around . Keep up the great channel ,Hunting The Public. Thanks guys.
Thanks Warb...glad to see it is being taken so seriously. Fireants weren't mentioned, but I have heard they really affect new born quail and think they may be a real problem for turkey poults.
Never thought if this!
Great info. Wish we could fast forward these study's for immediate things we might do maybe thp. can do more vids on this. Fires in the woods scare me ,I do my bush hogging later in the yr should I be doing it earlier . Maybe there's a map to follow based on science rather than opinions. Seen the grouse go hate to see Turkey's leave, deer down also. Have not seen any info if Turkey's r affected by disease ehd or others.thanks thp and mo. Study team:
Love the turkey research related content! Who will be interpreting all of this data? In listening to and reading some of Tyl’s work I would understand that she believes that habitat is the main factor (which it may very well be) but if that is the preconceived notion going into this study I fear it could affect how the results are tallied and published if the data shows that other factors are equally important. THP you guys have done a GREAT job of looking at all angles of this! Keep up the good work!
im placing blame on 11% nest predators, 17% brood predators, & 62% democrats
ONCE THE DATA IS COLLECTED HOW CAN WE AS HUMANS INFLUENCE SURVIVAL?
Man where in Linn county mo we had a tornado come through about 10 years ago during nesting season the population went down really low since we seen more bird's last deer season then we have for a while hopefully the #'s are coming back up
Hey htp I have a question I live in western Massachusetts and the past few years I’ve personally observed barred owls taking out a whole nest out poults and I’ve also noticed the owls eating the eggs as well ? Is normal for owls I figured eating poults yes but I didn’t think they would care much for an egg and last year I saw them break open and eat eggs at two of my hunting spots
Interesting. They never mentioned climate change as an alternative hypothesis for the turkey declines. They will be measuring weather, but looking retrospectively at climate changes in the area might be interesting too.
Scientists, most important job is to keep the funding coming. If they ever find the answer to anything the funding would stop, and that would be bad for them.
I can't speak for Missouri Dept of Conservation but here in NC/SC the Dept of Conservation actually introduced coyotes several years ago to help control the deer population. I've never agreed with this tactic at all. Coyotes have thrived and taking a huge toll on ground nesting birds. Not to mention trapping season should be year round and some sort of bounty placed on coyotes and coons. Every state keeps raising the price of hunting licenses and practicing poor management of these species that we as hunters enjoy. It's sad that my kids may never see a quail or get the chance to hunt turkeys like we have been so lucky to do.
Another informative video great job I would like to throw another factor in if the majority of the decline is in the southeast is it possible the effects of more frequent and intense storms that we have in the spring over the last 15 years with all the rain and flooding could be a factor.
Aaron are they also studying the possible impact that the chemicals the farmers use on their crops? I have heard that the chemicals are making the eggs soft and when the hens sit on them it breaks them. Great video!!
I’m not entirely sure. They pull blood samples on most captured birds for genetics and disease testing which could relate to that at some point 🤷♂️
Your comment makes me think of glycophosphate first and foremost. By the late 90's conventional corn and soybeans were nearly dinosaurs. But it also reminds me of the gobbler I came across one day during the spring season several years ago that was acting bizarre. No fear of me whatsoever. He was out in a freshly planted cornfield eating the seed corn that's treated with a chemical cocktail.
The decline in Turkey population s has been an ongoing problem, I don’t own the land I hunt so land management is out of the question for me, I do however have coon dogs so that’s the small area of the big picture I can work on.
Good🦃Stuff, she blinded me with science THP 💪🏼🇺🇸💯
The decline is simple, predators are out of control
Great content. less trapping and small predator management might be a factor... just my guess. im sure its more complex than that....
cant help but think about how the crash of fur prices 20yrs ago shut down coon & fox hunting. all of those critters have very little predators so their impact down the food chain would be great.
Very interesting and informative video. Great work!! Down here in Alabama like a lot of the south we are over run with wild hogs and fire ants. With group effort we kill hundreds of hogs in the area a year. One would think that they would have a large impact on the survival of nest. Also in the areas where I hunt we have very large amount of barred owls and hawks. Since owls are primarily night hunters the poults would be very easy prey for them especially during the time when they first start flying to roost and hawks could easily pick them off while they feed. Just curious if you have heard any studies on the impact of these predators?
Hogs are terrible in GA too! Got to effect them.
Thanks for sharing!! Great information.
I’ve spent my life hunting grouse and turkey’s,, and this is what I would like to share with these professionals,, and I am 65 years old so I have fifty years of hunting experience.
I have harvested over 100 ruffed grouse in and on one holler , from the spring head down stream for half mile , this took ten seasons , during those ten years I saw no deer or turkeys and six or so bears ,,today ,,ten years after my last time to shoot a grouse in that hollar , you can walk that spring up to the spring head and it’s full of deer and turkeys and there are absolutely zero grouse ,, this land has not changed , built upon ,, or any other major land change except for one thing ,,,back during the huge population of grouse I never heard or saw any great horned owls ,, now this land is full of owls. But no grouse.
The elevation at this place is 2800 feet above sea level and it’s in wautauga county NC
Ruffed grouse thrive in young forests, after 50 years that timber has grown and matured significantly. Sounds like a clear cut or heavy harvest will help your grouse
@@andrewhelton2373 in 1995 I flushed Covey’s of grouse , a hen and her polts in certain places and I would not shoot in them , at the start of season she would have a covey of ten , in august an September, then each month after that the covey would only decrease during the time of November when the leaves come off the trees and then these non shooting at Covey’s would fall in half down to four or five birds , in my opinion predators eat half of what grouse are born each year but that never hurt the fact that there was grouse there , and yes one side of this spring was cut over , the other was a steep laurel bank , the big difference occurred when the turkey and deer took over.
We have seen a decline of birds in West Virginia too hopefully they can figure something out so we can help out if we can!!!!
Thanks for the info great stuff? Keep it coming!!!
I have a couple bearded hens in my neighborhood but never see any poults with them. And now both those bearded hens hang together. I have always wondered if they did not breed or if their poults were picked off.
I live these type of video keep it up thp
All this is great, but until prices go up on fur and people start trapping again the Turkey population is screwed. And with climate change the way it is turkey poults dont have a chance. I know in Arkansas the population where I hunt went from great 20yrs ago to not even wanting to hunt turkeys anymore. Hawks here have a bad impact. And we have too many hawks. I've had hawks take down full size decoys.
I have a few questions: First one is How Tall is Aaron? Because all of these researchers look like they barely come up to Aaron's shoulders. Next question: How much of an impact do you think that the decline of Turkeys in Mo. has to do with trappers giving up on trapping because of the Fur Market Crash several years ago? I know of many trappers including myself that have given up on trapping because there's no money in it, a guy can't even make enough to justify the fuel cost to run a trapline.
Still have any promo codes for Woodhaven Crystal calls?
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@@TheHuntingPublic thanks! Yall rock!
You Guy's are awesome! 💯
Whats the mortality rate on the hens that are fitted with tracking? And how do they get the tracker back? Only when the Turkey dies?
@chadstaxidermy; 39 out of 51 survived I'm pretty sure is what they said! 1 was seven years old and 2 were at least five years old that lived!
'KEEP ON KEEPIN ON'
Fantastic video
Sorry im late for class men!
look into systemic pesticide pollution.
Guess I should have watched the whole video before I commit.lol
There is only 7 wild turkeys left in the state of Arkansas
Great video keep it up
Sewn onto the poults? What?
Be great if all the info the find is actually put out where people can see it most of the time it seems like this stuff is a secret lol
Don't forget about crows horrible nest killers.
Crows are very smart but are also very destructive on nests bc they are smart enough to find a sitting hen and nest and rob it. I bet they would also kill young poults but idk. That’s why I never feel bad about smoking as many crows as I can during crow season.
WAS THAT A HEN WITH AN 8 TO 9 INCH BEARD? THAT'S QUITE LONG!!!
Raccoons are the worst, they go straight for the Turkey eggs
Keep up the good work brothers. Jesus saves
Here in Arkansas the turkeys 🦃 population is very poor. It’s been serval years since I’ve seen any baby turkeys 🦃. And it’s been awhile since I’ve seen adult turkeys 🦃. Love y’all videos keep them coming. God blessed y’all and be safe out there.
Hear this alot about ark!
Turkey and populations are down almost over. Wanna know why is because the division of wildlife is fucking stupid. Releasing bobcats, mink, and predator animals instead of planting habitats and lowering numbers. The government is the issue
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It's just not rocket science. If your pph is down it's either weather, predation or habitat. For the most part the primary and easiest and cheapest and most enjoyable solution is to trap, trap and trap.
Secondary, if you already have turkeys that is, is to build better habitat via timber management, food plotting and proper firing.
This new style computer research ( vs person in the field eyes and ears and feet on the ground) and it's gadget requirements is unbelievably costly, running into the hundreds and thousands if not millions of dollars and honestly provides us with nothing Davis hasn't already covered.
Dr Grant Woods or either of the Buxton family should be everyone's go-to when they have questions and want to increase their turkeys.
Wonder how many 7 year old gobblers still running around there ?
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Ever since thp started releasing how they turkey hunt the population is going down !😂😂. But on a serious note stop allowing out of state hunting that will help each state’s turkey population!!
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