Tamiya Porsche 959 Slalom Challenge!
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- @theoagrc @MarkBryanRC @poorboysrc
Well then guys.......
After watching Mark Bryan and Fils rally battles, in particularly their slalom race between their tto2 and fazer mk2 rally it was time to take things further!
Whilst chatting with Craig at the OAG a few weeks back he stated that he believed that no rally car would be able to match the XVO1 on the slalom challenge.
So me being me told him to set me a time and I would attempt to beat it with my vintage Porshe 959!
I was shocked at how good Craigs attempt was when the video went live -
7.41 seconds!!
After seeing that, I was instantly worried!
But, I had called him out..... and in the spirit of true sportsmanship set out to give it my best shot with my 38 year old Tamiya icon!
Will the yoda be left with egg on his face, keep watching to find out! 😉
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It did very well out there and I say it a very close race. Considering the fact the 959 was engineered almost 40 years ago only being a few seconds behind a modern rally chassis is very impressive and I almost consider it a tie . Giving it a 1/2 second handicap for each decade it is behind they are neck and neck!! It was cool seeing it run around out there and you guys gave it all she had!! Great run !!
Ah mate, awesome comment, thank you Sir! 🙏 😊
Yes indeed, this chassis really does handle very nicely...... especially as it is 38 years old, as is the technigold motor that it is running on!
Hats off to Craig, his run is really going to take some beating..... he done me good and proper!
Must admit though, the Porshe did seem to be lacking punch!
I usually run lipos these days, but couldn't fit one in this vintage chassis so had to use a very old NMH that was past it's best.
I think with a new battery, and turning the timing up on the technigold motor I may be able to get a bit more power to slide that end out a little and pull away a bit quicker out of the end cone..... potentially saving a second perhaps? 🤔
Who knows..... but for now, I've had my arse whipped by Craig!
The best car/driver combo won, and I'm cool with that, it was great fun! 😊
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@@greenhawksrc6806 It did good and you guys did better than me, I hit every cone in sight!!! In my brain they instantly become targets! LOL!
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Yes mate, I can relate to that one.....
As you saw, I hit more than my fair share of cones, and even put that shockingly fragile rally car on her roof...... 🙄🤕
But sometimes it's nice to get the old classics out for a run, and being a rally car the odd dent and ding give it character!
Besides, I have my fully restored mint condition one on the shelf to admire..... this one's for enjoying!
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Love that Addam has made a brave attempt to save you here Yoda 😁 I think there is way more in this chassis and I think a little more work you would be able to get down into the lower 8s with it.
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Fair play to Addam, I had to pin that comment buddy!
And yes, I think with practice, and some tweaking I might be able to shave a little time off...... but I don't think 7.41 is achievable!
The XVO1 was a worthy contender matey! 👍 👍 👍
"Onyx's balloon knot!" 😂😂😂 - Sorry I'm so late to the party on this one, fellas! I've been submerged in Family visits the past week and a half and just getting caught up now.
Good on ya for taking out the 959 and putting it to work. Honestly, it was pretty darn quick! It's a rare sight to see one in action.
Excellent stuff guys, lots of laughs as always!
No worries dude!!
I thought things had been a bit quiet on the Poor boys rc front for a while..... but family is always important.
I thought balloon knot was a less offensive description and more suitable for You Tube..... although with the amount of 'F' bombs Taylor drops I honestly don't know why I bother! 🤷♂️ 🙄
Yeah man, I think the 959 done particularly well for a 38 year old car...... it beat my attempt with the Fazer mk2.
Just gutted I didn't manage to beat Craigs 7.41 with his XVO1!
Looking forward to seeing the next instalment of Fil V Mark with the rally cars!
Cheers for watching and commenting buddy. 😊
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You still win just on pure style alone. Nothing looks better and is as much a legend as this car.
Ah many thanks for your kind words sir!!
And totally agree, the 959 is a total legend. 👍
We have a summer photo shoot of my other mint 959 along with the Celica GRB on the channel if you are interested in these cars!
Cheers for watching and commenting buddy. 😊
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Took some balls to run this car on this challenge 😮 Hats off Sir 🫡 (I love that car, and I cried a little when she rolled over 😢)
Ah cheers man! 🙏
Wasn't planning on going upside down..... but a few dents and dings give these rally cars that realistic look, and each one tells a story!
I actually built this one as a runner....
I done a full 'as new' restoration of a 959 and a Celica GRB a few years back (videos are in our back catalogue)
Both are totally mint condition and stay on the shelf!
I built this one with all the left over parts..... with the intention of having one to run.
This one is far from mint, but mechanically sound.
I fitted it with aluminium wishbones and suspension arms to make it tougher, as the original plastic ones have always been an issue on these from back in the day.
I run this one regularly, and it's a joy to drive...... pretty reliable to.
Check out our Porshe 959 and Toyota Celica GRB summer photo shoot video from last year if you fancy seeing the fully restored examples!
Cheers for watching matey. 😊
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Hey great attempts and a fun video but Craig can relax and engage smug mode after this. The car was running great and always nice to see this classic being run. Top stuff guys 👍👍
Hello Pete!
Thanks for watching buddy. 😊
Oh trust me, Craig is grinning from ear to ear..... the yodas got egg on is face big time! 😂
Maybe I should have waited to see what times his XVO1 posted before I called him out perhaps? 🤔
It's over to Mark now to try and beat him with his type S tto2 I think!
But, always great to run this vintage relic (as Craig called it🙄).......
and in all honesty, I think she performed exceptionally well for a 38 year old car!
Have a great weekend buddy. 😊
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“Give us a wave! Lovely legs 🖕” 😂😂 had me pi@@ing .
Quality video 😎
Great effort with the Legendary 959 .
Loved it!! Have a top weekend fellas 👍😎🍻🏁
Cheers matey!
There's still plenty of life in the old dog yet I would say, she done very well for her age!
But unfortunately not fast enough to beat Craigs XVO1.....
I'm a bit gutted, but it was great fun trying all the same!
Have a good one mate, and thanks for watching. 😊
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well done mate . it’s such a beaut👍 not a bad time at all 👍
Cheers Dom!
I done my best mate, but unfortunately it wasn't good enough!
Could have done with just a bit more power to enable me to flick that rear end out a bit, and propel me faster put of the bends!
But for such an old car, she did perform exceedingly well!
I was very close to matching Mark's time, but way off Craig's XVO1!
Your a great driver fella, would love to see you have a go with one of your rally cars..... TA02 perhaps? 🤔
But for now, Craig can enjoy the glory of being at the top! 😂
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Oh James, what a valliant effort, mate! You did so well, I'm impressed with your driving. I noticed a tiny problem with the back end stepping out now and then. I had the exact same issue with my TT02 and it killed the run times! I must say well done to Taylor, his little go showed he could also be a contender! You almost beat me mate, I need to get out there and try again... but got a few "issues" at the moment that is limiting my play time!!! This was great fun to watch, Taylor's commentary had me in stiches! Craig is still on top of the pile then! Respect! 🤗👌👍
PS. I timed the run on my phone watching the video. I got you at 8.88 on that fastest run!!! 🤣🤣👍👍
Many thanks Mark!! 🙏
It started off bad, but slowly improved as I got to grip with things.
The car was definitely lacking punch, I don't think that battery is in great condition..... tempted to try again on a brand new NMH and with the timing turned up on the technigold!
And yes, the back end was stepping out every so often...... but overall this vintage chassis does still handle exceptionally well!
Still didn't manage to catch you though mate, got close though!!! 😂
As for Craig's time, that's going to take some beating dude-
Great chassis and great driving on his part.
Im suprised more people haven't stepped up to the challenge yet?
Maybe they are scared of getting egg on their face like the yoda did! 😂
Hope you all as well as can be expected up your way mate, and hope the 'issues' are getting dealt with buddy.
I'm relying on you to knock Craig off the top with your Type S dude!! 😂
Have a great weekend buddy. 😊
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Ah cool man! 👍
Do you want to come down this way for a job as Markonthestopwatch here at Green Hawks mate? 😂
Our methods were rather crude relying on a mobile phone app and visual line of sight..... so times may be a little off either way in places.
Everything is bodged here at Green Hawks mate! 😂
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Epic effort with the old girl. RC channel makes adaptors for the original hubs to fit 12mm hex modern wheels...Or apparently drive hexes from the Astute fit. Think some modern wheels and tyres will help. 40 year old rubber ain't quite got bite they once had.
Awesome seeing the 959 being driven. My runner 959 is ready to go.. might throw some cones out too.
Many thanks fella! 😊
Yes, you have a good point with the tires.
Although the slicks don't seem to age the way the rally blocks have.
The rally blocks go rock hard and split over time, but the slicks all seem to keep lovely and soft!
I wasn't aware that the Astutes hex fitments were compatible, enabling different wheels to be fitted!
Cheers for the tip, I actually have a vintage Astute that I fully restored (featured in our back catalogue of videos)
We also have a few others featuring the 959 that you may enjoy, as I can tell that you love this model as much as I do! 😉
I have checked out your ones, and was very impressed!!
And yes, would love to see you attempt the slalom challenge with the trusty Porsche!
Check out Mark Bryan and Poor boys rc slalom challenge for a full explanation of cone distances etc. It's a fun rally challenge that many of our community are joining in with!
Thanks for watching, and for commenting mate.
All the best buddy. 😊
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Awesome runs. Hoping you'll get more out of it. It's pretty close for a 40 year old car.
And it's very gentleman like to admit a mistake, even when the result isn't even close to a win.
Cheers Dirk!!
Craig defeated me good and proper buddy, the best man won my friend.
But, the 959 certainly got around well for a 38 year old Tamiya!
All great fun mate. 😊
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Still an excellent run, not alot of people would have run that old rig. RESPECT!
Not first!!!!
Ah man.... You were beaten by Craig.... Just like I was in the slalom! 😂
Cheers Paul, she done alright for a 38 year old car eh? 🤔
This ones a runner mate..... I done a full 'as new' restoration on a 959 and a Celica GRB a few years back which both stay on the shelf in mint condition.
I built this one from the left over parts from the restorations specifically to use as a regular driver.
I imported aluminum front and rear arms and suspension from the USA to make it more durable, and in all honesty it drives very well!
Its all about the vintage cars for me fella, would love to put the rally blocks on and take it around a track like yours!!
We do have a summer photo shoot on the channel of my shelf queen 959 and Celica if you like this model mate.
Thanks for watching and dropping a comment buddy. 😊
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looks like a real good giggle. we have some of those type of cones here. just need to get time to go out and try it out.
Hey Glenn!
Yes sir, I watched your channel update video.
Never enough hours in the day eh?
Would love to see you have a go with this on your 959 bodied creation mate!
Need someone to knock Craig from the top!
Have a great weekend mate. 😊
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@@greenhawksrc6806 far too many projects still to finish and getting the magnets on that 959 wouldnt take long... would be good to actually get and run that to be honest
Yeah, man, great run! Might not beat Craig or Mark but still a very respectable shot at it, boys! I remember how hard it is, almost mentally, to keep at it, try after try, ha ha... It's a cool RC, that old Porsche, but gotta face the fact that was what it was capable of, it just lacked the bursts to take the speed up after passing a cone...
Gotta admit that XV-01 is pretty superior on this challenge so far.
Cheers Mads! 🙏
You got that spot on mate.....
I needed just a bit more oomph to flick that rear end out and power out of the bends quicker.
I may try with a better battery as it was lacking it's usual power, and perhaps turn the timing up on the technigold?
I remember your attempt well, you nutter..... going for it with 2wd buggy, it's hard enough with 4wd!!!!😂
And yeah man the XVO1 seems to be leagues ahead of all the other chassis for this particular challenge.... so far!
Thanks for stopping by matey. 😊
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A valiant effort, and it's harder than it looks! Your quickest time was pretty darn good though. I think Onyx was offering you a condolence there 😆 👍
🐈⬛"What, you don't want a sniff?"
Cheers buddy!
Yeah, your right there.... especially as I get older, and my eye sight and reaction times are not what they used to be!
But, I think my old girl done well for a 38 year old car and motor...... this thing was ahead of its time back in 86 when it came out, and pathed the way for the more modern cars like the TTO2 etc that we all enjoy today!
I had one of these back in the late eighties, so this car has a lot of sentimental attachment to me.
I also have a totally 'as new' one on the shelf, and her sister car, a never run Celica GRB!
Unfortunately I didn't beat Craigs attempt, but gave it my best!
As for Onyx, she just loves to get on camera, and always lifts that tail high for all to see! 😂 😼🙀
Taylors the worst, he takes photos and sends them to me on a regular basis...... he even got a
'cats bumhole' colouring in book for Christmas the other year!!! 😂 😅 🤣
(I'm not joking there either)
Yep, welcome to the channel of looney's dude..... but always up for a laugh! 😂
Thanks for watching buddy. 😊
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@@greenhawksrc6806 lol good stuff.. and that probably hurt your soul a bit rolling that body if it's that special to ya. Take good care of it!
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As a runner rally car, the odd ding and scrape actually give them character matey..... each one tells a story, and this has many! 😂
But, I would never dream of running my shelf queen 959..... there's not even a finger print on that one! 😂
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I hope they make this on their 50th anniversary of RC.
It may well happen Brad, who knows!
I think if it does, Tamiya MUST address the weak areas of the plastics first.
There's no way this car would stand up to the abuse of modern power systems without seriously beefing up the plastic suspension arms and hubs etc.
I've used aluminum ones on this one.
But hey, I'm guessing most would be shelf queen's anyway eh? 🤔
Cheers for stopping by matey.
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@greenhawksrc6806 I would sure as hell be playing with it. And the plastics are better now so they would probably be able to address those problems and still use the same shocks with updating them to make them stronger.
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Fair play for wanting to drive it mate, they do drive really well.
Unfortunately, the design of the front and rear arms/wishbones and the hubs was inherently flawed from day one.
As well as the plastic being too brittle, the actual plastic components were not thick enough at all the points where the parts were mounted together using pins and screws mate.
In my eyes the only way they can stay true to the original design would be to re cast the original wishbones and hubs in Aluminum rather than plastic.
I know this would be expensive, but it's not going to be a cheap kit anyway..... and I'm sure people would be willing to pay anything to own one!
Unfortunately, knowing Tamiya, the issues will not be addressed at all..... but at least there will be parts available again if it was to be re released.
I'm also thinking that we will not see the rothmans decals which is a shame!
Have you seen my mint condition 959 and Celica GRB summer photo shoot video Brad?
Two lovely examples there which I fully restored...... and stay firmly on the shelf! 😂
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@@yodadarksideGreenHawksRC sorry I don't think I have they could thicken the arms and stuff with plastic .
Awesome run and a pretty good time for the 959. The fact that she is still running today is already a win in my books.😎💪❤️
Ah cheers Sean!
Yeah man, not a bad attempt for her age mate!
I will be doing everything I can to keep this car running for decades, it's such a pleasure to drive!
Parts are getting very hard to find now though.
Cheers for watching fella. 😊
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Well what can I say!!! I did tell you that the XV01 is might buddy! There is life in the old girl though dude as I think you could get that a little tighter to the cones. I was just impressed that you didn’t wrap it around the kerb so it lives to fight another day!! Dare I point out that Taylor’s first run was rapid until he made the wide turn at the top!! There is a sub 8 in that 959 pal 🙌🏻👍🏻
Cheers Sir!!
And very well played mate, you well and truly done us!
I knew the XVO1 was good, as I've driven Daz's a few times...... but I wasn't expecting you to get down in the sevens!
When you posted your entry I immediately knew I was potentially in trouble!! 😬
The 959 handles well, bloody well for a 38 year 'relic' as you called it!!
It did however seem to lack the power it needed to flick that rear end out and propel itself forward.
My NMH packs ain't great, and are definitely lacking oomph.....
I'm wondering if it's worth a pinion change, new battery, and turning up the timing on the motor and have another go,?
And, like you say, there's room for improvement with practice to take a tighter line perhaps?
I don't think even then I will be able to touch your time..... although I do believe a dirty Mark may well be coming for your arse with his type S! 😂
So, handing it over yo the other guys to de throne you..... for now at least!
All great fun buddy! 😊
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My mate still has his with the Technigold motor we all raved about back in the 80's. Also has the Bruiser which looks fantastic with 3 gears etc, but is nowhere as much fun to drive.
Cool comment fella!
Pleased to hear that your buddy is still running his!
Yep, we all raved over the technigold back in the eighties and nineties, it's a truly iconic motor that is very well built.
I still run 3 or 4 to this day, still great motors for the vintage runners, albeit quite slow compared to some of the modern brushed motors!
The Bruiser is a great model, must get one in my collection one day.
Thanks for stopping by and dropping a comment mate. 😊
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That cats asking for attention.lol
Lol.... 😂
She just loves getting her butt hole on camera mate, bless her! 🙀
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First off, great driving James and awesome driving Taylor.... Now, I damn near chocked on my dinner cause someone said "Balloon Knot" (and showed one) and all I could think of was George Takei saying "Oh My!!!" LMFAO!!!! New pack, some gearing and a BZ motor should give you all the speed you'll need...
Hey Bob!!!
Sorry for making you nearly choke dude!!
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Yeah man, I was trying to be polite and not say arse hole..... but with the amount of f**ks Taylor drops in our videos I honestly don't know why I even bother! 😉
Mate, that slalom challenge is not as easy as it looks..... but I think my 38 year old relic done itself proud against the far more modern, and highly regarded XVO1.
She did seem to lack punch, and you could clearly see the battery depletion as the runs went on, it wasn't a good battery in the first place.
But not making excuses, Craig well and truly done me on this one.
In all honesty, I think a superstock would be too much for this old timer, the plastics are so brittle, and shatter just by looking at it wrong!
But, I may turn up the motor timing and buy a new NMH pack (I usually use lipo these days, but it's too tight in this one)..... and perhaps have another go!
Watch this space matey.
Cheers for stopping by buddy. 😊
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@@greenhawksrc6806 Yeah mate, I heard the F Bombs.... but fuck it, all in good fun... At 38 years old it's still younger than you by far... LOL. Also, looked like slicks not rally block tires, that's right, TIRES not tyres, one don't say or spell, "Man I'm Tyred" LOL... Or I'm now retyred... LMAO.... Just busting your balls mate... Yes Sir, Craig did a great job....
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Oi cheeky..... I'm not even 50 yet!! 😝
I'm still in my prime!!!
The 959 first came out when I was ten years old..... I got my first 959 kit at age 11,and built it all myself, much to my parents amazement!!
Oh boy, don't start Taylor off on the whole tires/tyres thing..... we have had so many arguments over that one!!! 😂
Regardless of how it's spelt, all I care about is how well they grip for the surface at hand, and more importantly -
How nice they smell!!
You are not a true member of the UA-cam RC community unless you have a severe tire/tyre sniffing addiction, however you want to spell it! 😂 😅 🤣 👍
@@yodadarksideGreenHawksRC 🤣🤣🤣I hear ya James, I'm "tyred" of this chat..... Kidding... busting chops again.. Your still older than the 959, and I was @ 20 when it came out but never had one, I got my 1st RC in 1988. I sniffed plenty of tyres in my day mate..
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Absolutely first before Paul C 😁
Well done Mr OAG!!!
Double win for you on this one my friend..... It's not often Paul gets beaten at his own game! 😂
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Cheers for watching Carl.
You need to attempt this challenge with your Mini cooper once it's completed mate!! 😂
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Looks like the diffs are unloading in the turns and causing the car to veer sharply.
Very good comment fella, think you make a good point there.
The rear end was definitely snatchy at times as I went into the tight turns!
This old girl usually only gets a light run around the garden..... It doesn't usually get pushed this hard!
But it was fun to give it a go at beating Craig's time in his XVO1.
Cheers for watching buddy. 😊
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I have to say, I do not think using sticks did you any favors, I'd swap controllers and I am sure you can shave a bit off, but doubt it will beat Team OAG 👍🏁
On another note with that 959 you should raffle it and buy yourself a little van to tour the UK model shops with 🙄
😂🤣 With that body work I would hate to imagine the van 🔥
Oooooh..... I don't think I could ever raffle off any of my original rare vintage models buddy, that would be a real 'kick' to the balls!! 😉
As for the tires-
Unfortunately getting parts for this car is very hard, and shockingly expensive!
You are looking at around £400 for a set of new old stock rally blocks for one of these, and that's if you're lucky enough to find any!! 🤑
Unfortunately they are a smaller hex pattern on the fitment which rules out using anything else.
But I certainly get your point mate.
Overall, Craig's time of 7.41 seconds is shockingly quick..... he done me good and proper this time!
Hope some other channels step up and challenge him.
All in all, great fun though.
Cheers for watching guys. 😊
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@@greenhawksrc6806 @theoagrc I think this is one we will have to avoid, straight lines are challenging enough
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Cheers for watching matey, just a bit of fun really! 😂
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