Ask The Rabbi: What is the meaning of when god said "Let us make make man in our image?"
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- God said: "Let us make man in our image . . ." (Genesis 1:26) ((Genesis 1:26)) and "Come, let us go down, and there confound their language" (Genesis 11:7)((Genesis 11:7)). To whom does the "us" refer? Is it talking about the Trinity or about Gods connection to Humanity?
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This is very fitting with Christian ONENESS teaching that denies the Trinity. Good stuff! Ezra 4:18 shows plurality of majesty, as well.
(Breath of life Christian Teaching Centre)
Simple, peshat explanation with great logic. No need for such complex interpretations..thanks for this wisdom!
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Thank you Rabbi for sharing your thoughts on this question but I am still confused. Besides bringing up scriptures of God's oneness it still doesn't speak to the verse in question. The "majestic plural" seems to be at odds other monotheistic verses. I do find your interpretation really fascinating with the idea of God partnering with the Earth to make Adam both of the earth and of the spirit, but who then does God partner with at the Tower of Babel when it says, "Let us go down and confound their language"??? Again thank you so much for your words Rabbi and if there are other on the thread with ideas, please don't hesitate.
Genesis 1 is Lucifer and the fallen angels. They made man in their image. Man is an idol, a trap for angels.
One Gospel:
Gospel of Reconciliation.
Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom
to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself.
We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness.
If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever.
Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of God (ELOHIM).
Yes that's true, I forgot about GOD talking in plurality at the Tower of Babel🧐
He went hard on genesisi verse ,forgot about the tower of babel,,
The Angel's
More details in Jasher
I dont agree, he said let us make man in our own image, true he said LET US but after he said IN OUR, in our own image, look at the image of man man does not look like the earth physically, we were just made from it
In fact we look very much like the earth, the root structure in plants and trees, also lightning look exactly like our veins and, nervous system,,, were part dust and, part water..... That's why Jesus always referred to us as plants, fig trees, wheat, barley.. and the fact we can produce fruit
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And we dont look like God either, God is a Spirit. In their image after...... Their own likeness.... That means attributes, we were spiritual and holy, the image of God. Until sin came into us.
Jesus was talking to us as Fig leaves and branches and what not because they are parables to describe reality but GOD talking and conversing using the words "us" and "our" in giving Creation of Life doesn't fit with parable languages in this instance so GOD is not a stupid GOD, He used
"us" and "our" in association with Creation of Humans so how are the "likeness" & "image" of GOD being compared to Dirt?
Image is not something physically, image is something intangible so the image of GOD is being able to
1.) Communicate
2.) Love
3.) Have freewill
4.) Morals
So using dirt and earth with image of GOD is not logical 🤷🏽🙏🏼❤️
The mystery of the trinity is divine simplicity and the Godhead of Father Son and Spirit three parts, but this is a mystery of Christianity and I appreciate this video
I have a question as to whom Hashem was speaking and what image does Hashem have as stated in Genesis 1:26-27?
וַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֔ים נַֽעֲשֶׂ֥ה אָדָ֛ם בְּצַלְמֵ֖נוּ כִּדְמוּתֵ֑נוּ וְיִרְדּוּ֩ בִדְגַ֨ת הַיָּ֜ם וּבְע֣וֹף הַשָּׁמַ֗יִם וּבַבְּהֵמָה֙ וּבְכָל־הָאָ֔רֶץ וּבְכָל־הָרֶ֖מֶשׂ הָֽרֹמֵ֥שׂ עַל־הָאָֽרֶץ׃ וַיִּבְרָ֨א אֱלֹהִ֤ים ׀ אֶת־הָֽאָדָם֙ בְּצַלְמ֔וֹ בְּצֶ֥לֶם אֱלֹהִ֖ים בָּרָ֣א אֹת֑וֹ זָכָ֥ר וּנְקֵבָ֖ה בָּרָ֥א אֹתָֽם׃
“And God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. They shall rule the fish of the sea, the birds of the sky, the cattle, the whole earth, and all the creeping things that creep on earth.” And God created man in His image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.”
Local rabbis seem to believe He was speaking to His angels, to the earth or to all of His creations.
Im a Christian who denies the trinity
And this is absolutely brilliant
I pray the best
And you are an idiot.
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Jesus is not God ,the trinity is pagan . Anyone who worships Jesus is not a follower of Jesus but a follower of Satan
You’re not a Christian then lmfao, the divinity of Christ has been established for almost 2000 years
@@PaxAmericana__ Exactly! Many don’t see the Trinity but it’s all over in scripture. GOD is one
Very wise
I believe everything worships God the mountains and the rock everything knows the creator.
I believe God is the Lord of all lords truly amazing, God is good
Clearly God is not a single lonely cold being that Jews think He is. There are more verses pointing to the plurality of the one God, besides Genesis 1,26. In Genesis 2,24: "That is why a man (...) is united to his wife, and they become one flesh" - human family is an image of God, full of mutual love and unity.
Genesis 3,22: "And the LORD God said: The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil" - obviously He wasn't speaking to the Earth!
Genesis 5,1: "When God created mankind, he made *them* in the likeness of God" - so mankind, a plurality, reflects God's plurality.
And the reference to Daniel 2,36 seems unfounded. The "we" rather points to Daniel and his friends Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah.
Still like it when GOD TOLD mosses go tell my people this this and that !: mosses answer yes I know but they are going to ask me who told all this! God' replied. EAU ASHA EAU OR I AM WHAT I AM. BE WHATEVER I WANT TO BE WHENEVER I WANT TO BE I AM YHVH.! SAME FOR GENESIS CHAPTER 1 V ,27 TELLING THE ANGLES LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR LIKENESS BECAUSE AT THAT TIME THEY'RE IN ALL SPRITULAL BODY TO MAKE A LIKENESS OF THE ANGLES HE HAD TO FORM THE HUMAN FLESH BODY THE LIKENESS BEING OF THE ANGLES ! WHEN WE DIE OUR SOULS RETURN TO FATHER WHO US ALL AND THE SHELL WHEN WE WERE LIVING IN THE FLESH IS USELESS NOT NEEDED ANYONE!
GOD said, "Let there be Light"
so GOD'S (WORD) brings things into existence and GOD'S (SPIRIT) was moving across the Waters.
1.) GOD'S Living WORD brings Life and Existence.
2.) GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT moved across the Waters and helps with the Creation of Life
Now if GOD is a Singular GOD who doesn't manifest in any other way but GOD Himself, then why is GOD'S SPIRIT moving across the Waters during Creation? Why didnt GOD Himself move across the Waters Himself? Why was His SPIRIT apart from Him while GOD is still in Heaven dwelling in His Abode?
Why is His SPIRIT moving and doing things as if this SPIRIT is a Person that's able to Create and Help give Life?🧐🤔
So however you wanna have own explanation or feelings of this Verse, GOD the Father sent His
"WORD" and "SPIRIT" by His Will to Create and give Life on Earth while at the same time still chilling in Heaven.🙏🏼❤️✌🏼☺️
You are misrepresenting daniel saying "we will tell you the dream" as being a "majestic plural". The "we" is daniel AND the God that revealed the secret of the dream. So it is God telling the king the meaning of his dream, and Daniel recognizes this, hence why he says "we will tell you".
Read Ezra 4:18.
There is no plurality, but he is not referring to himself either, he is speaking to the saints.
No Christmas decide GOD but as Jewish did and keep doing.. give the Glory names to GOD .. so JESUS said (baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,) so JESUS did said (names- "Plural") but (name "Single") so the question should be .. did Jewish believe in Holly Spirit as a GOD ? Or something else? For example..
And about Daniel 2:36 .. you sir should read first and in the same Chapter (Daniel 2:18-19) Then Daniel returned to his house and explained the matter to his friends Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah.
He urged them to plead for mercy from the God of heaven concerning this mystery, so that he and his friends might not be executed with the rest of the wise men of Babylon.
So it's very clear that Daniel was taking about himself+ his friends as well ..
Baptism in the the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is false, it was added by the Romans years ago, they add and take from the Gods' word. Deuteronomy 4:2. Only in the name of Jesus we should be baptized. Acts 4:10-12, Acts 2:38 and there are a lot of other examples in the book Acts-8:16/10:14/19:5/, and others like 1 Corinthians 12, Galatians 3, Ephesians 4, Colossians 2, Romans 6 explains the meaning of baptism. May God bless you in the name of the Jesus Christ.
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Did God make man in his image but not woman?
Some claim woman is made in man’s image ..
Is “man” a reference to men or man and woman both in v 26?
Thanks
Woman comes from wif man
In Anglo saxon wif meant female
On early Anglo saxon translations of the bible, Jesus can be seen calling Mary wif
The male equivalent was wer, wich lives on in words like werewolf
For uncertain reasons wif was added before man to make female person but wer was never added in front of man to make male person
Man just meant any person back then which lives on in words like manslaughter or mankind
TLDR. Man meant any oerson back then, man or woman
God is Jesus, Jesus teached his deciple how to pray. OUR Father who art in Heaven........give US this day OUR daily bread and forgive US OUR sin, the same US and OUR in geisis. The circulation within Father Son and the Holyghost. So GOD is not angry at human applying the word Trinity to GOD. I never heard any preacher says prayers using the Trinity. Did God told humans to name the scriptures Bible ? I don't think so.
Honestly I just thought when god said let us made earth in our image he meant it to the godhead I.e himself,jesus and the holy spirit and I kinda assume that waht he meant in the tower of babel and if god partner with earth to create man doesnt that mean man is also made in earth's image as well.(I just have question about this)
Now another question pops up. God commands the earth to bring forth animals in Gen. 1:26, but then in Gen. 2:19 He forms animals from the ground like He formed man in Gen. 2:7. Please help. Thanks
18 Then Adonai Elohim said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. Let Me make a well-matched helper for him.” 19 Adonai Elohim had formed from the ground every animal of the field and every flying creature of the sky, so He brought them to the man to see what he would call them. Whatever the man called them-each living creature-that was its name.
Does this make it clearer?
God created them in gen 1. But gen 2 starts by saying, These are the generations of the heavens and the earth. I wouldn't say it's a repeat of chapter one. But that it's an outline context for chapter 2. I think it's Similar to Jeremiah, "before I formed you, I knew you and ordained you to be a prophet..."
That's my understanding. Hope that helps.
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At the end Nothing can create anything.. God's who creates everything not the ground or the waters..... This should be taken as a figurative language. Still the video explanations don't convince me, then again I don't believe In the trinity doctrine
I read in the Hebrew language that GOD said "Formed" it means hath formed, meaning past tense but not exactly sure and people have to remember that all animals and Humans are Created from the Ground and Water. Our Bodies are made up of mostly water and substances from the ground🙏🏼❤️
So God creates the earth, starts communicating with it and its now you and me? How does Adam reflect the image of the earth?
God is spirit and makes man to reflect His image on earth.
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@@richielopez2016 Thanks..... just left a comment on the video you might like
I am a light not THE LIGHT Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ that God has raised him from the dead repent from your sins and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins and preach the Lord Jesus until the day of his coming and thou shalt be saved... Seek God in his word.. the word prophet channel on UA-cam...KJV
@@richielopez2016 how were people being saved during his ministry. It's the message He was preaching that saves you, He died and rose from the dead before His crucifixion, yet you can't see that. Such a shame.
I am a light not THE LIGHT except and man be born of water and of the spirit he shall not inherit the kingdom of God.... you hav to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins.. No sinner shall inherit the kingdom of God
GOD is an All knowing Creator who uses words for a reason and purpose for His Creation to better understand Him so why did GOD use the words "us" and "our" in regards of
"Creating Life"? If GOD knew this would complicate people's thinking of who He is then why didn't GOD just keep it plain and simple and just say,
"Let Me create Man in My Image and in My Likeness"?
I appreciate the explanations of the Jews but it's not Biblical and its not logical for a GOD of All things and beings to use plural words of Himself in creating Life when there is NO ONE on Earth or Heaven that is qualified or on the Level of GOD to be mentioned or associated with Him Giving Life so if GOD was using "Majestic Language" it would have been Logical for Him to say,
Let "Me" make man in "our" image and in "our' likeness,
not let "us" make man.
🙏🏼❤✌🏼
7:46 An Important Lesson
Jews waiting for the Messiah? He came 2000 years ago. Jesus is your Lord and your God. You are the chosen people. I am a branch grafted to the tree. Seek and you will find that all prophetic scripture awaiting the Messiah points to God coming himself to Shepard his flock. In Jesus dwelt the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Jesus is not the second person of a trinity. Jesus Christ came to cause a division between those who could see with open eyes and heart and those who could not. Jesus said “I and the father are one”. Jesus fulfilled all prophecy. Those awaiting lions to lay with lambs in this earth in the way it is prior to the second coming will continue to wait only to be met with judgment for denying the one true God our father who took on bodily flesh to pay the ultimate son offering and save us from death. I love you all with all of my heart. Praise the Lord for his Graciousness and praise his Glory.
John Caruso its now wolf laying with the lamb. Mandela effect
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Daniel 7:13-14
Genesis 11:7..?
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Doesn't Echad have to do with plurality, As a cluster of grapes is one Cluster?
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That’s what Christina missionaries have you falsely believe. ECHAD is a Hebrew word which denotes UNITY and not plurality
I'm sorry to say but Echad is not a singular word for "One" as a number. Echad is a word for Unity in Oneness.
Example: "Adam and Eve became "One" Flesh.
So Adam and Eve became
"Echad" Flesh so this word is not saying One as a solidarity Number but a Unity of more than one people
So Adam and Eve are NOT "1" Flesh
But a Unity of two people moving in the same direction and worship towards GOD so Adam and Eve are
"Echad Flesh" aka (United Flesh).
🙏🏼❤️✌🏼
Echad means "Oneness in Unity"
Or "One of" many.
Yachid means "1" as a Number and solidarity "1" so if GOD wanted to say Adam and Eve are "1" flesh then GOD should've used the word "Yachid" if Adam and Eve are "1" flesh but He didn't, GOD used the Word
"Echad" (Unity of)(Oneness)
and NOT "Yachid" (1) (number one)
🙏🏼❤️✌🏼
@@Rotisivunity of what?
Unity of 2 people so this is why Christians believe in a unity of GOD.
Example: Jesus said, I and the Father are One (Unity)(Oneness)
So why is Jesus associating Himself being united or in unity with the FATHER Himself?
Let us make man in our image and likeness WHEN, HOW, WHERE and with whom?
When after God spoke to THEM(us)
Form man's body from the Earth with previous created bio material Or animal. Given the body made with nostrils, and God breath spirit into the nostrils of man's body.
Over the Globe, according to THEIR schedule of human creation.
With whom They share his image and likeness.
And specifically, the God which El Elyon later appointed to inherit Israel created Adam in male form and in his image and likeness and then created Eve from Adam's "side" in female form in her image and likeness for mankind to reproduce.
It's likely Eve's body was created in similar method as Adam.
Fabulous
So, this is basically saying that the holy trinity is not real? I disagree vehemently! There have been many biblical scholars that have studied this aspect and have said that it is true. Not only that, but there are many references within the Bible itself. Why are we not focused on the truth of the matter?
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The trinity is not true. What are the biblical references you say support the trinity?
jeremydutcher75 Repent from your sins and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost and That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Seek God in his word.. the word prophet channel on UA-cam...KJV
Richie Lopez Richie Lopez thank you sir. I asked 1 Ball. Acts 2:38-39 “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
jeremydutcher75 Amen...
Genesis 1 is Lucifer and the fallen angels. They made man in their image. Man is an idol, a trap for angels.
One Gospel:
Gospel of Reconciliation.
Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom
to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself.
We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness.
If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever.
Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of God (ELOHIM).
Good day Sir.
The creation was a solo performance of ELOHIM/EL/ELOAH. Nobody can dispute this. Unfortunately, christians and/or trinitarians cannot explain clearly how was the Son, the Holy spirit, or "trinity" existed in the entire Old Testament or even before the creation. Trinitarians had a hard time explaining the "trinity". With your indulgence, let me elaborate my understanding of the "trinity". For me it is just a matter of explanation. The TRINITY is as simple as:
1) Elohim (El / Eloah) = Father
2) Elohim's word = Son
3) Elohim's spirit = Holy Spirit
The "trinity" has nothing to do with the plurality of "Elohim" likewise, with Genesis 1:26.
As a christian, what matters most was: the one who came into the world, and that was the Elohim's WORD. (Isaiah 55:11, John 1:14)
Psalm 33:6-9 for me, is the most comprehensive passage that can describe and summurize the entire creation account of Moses (Gen. 1, 2). The "trinity" is present in this passage.
Psalm 33:6-9
where:
a) word = Son
b) Lord = the "solo" creator
c) breath = Spirit
This is how the Son and the Holy Spirit "participated" in the creation. But keep in mind that I am discussing ONE and the same God (Elohim).
The commissioning:
God did not sent the one He was talking to/with as concluded by many theologians and trinitarians in Gen. 1:26.
Prophet Isaiah already knew about the Son of God (Isaiah 9:6), but did God drop the "Child" from heaven and catched by a womb? Its a big NO, then, how did God sent His Son to the world? The answer is Isaiah 55:11. "So shall My WORD be that goes forth from My mouth;
It shall not return to Me[a]void,
But it shall accomplish what I please,
And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it."
It is clear now that the concept of trinity has nothing to do with Gen. 1:26, because God did NOT sent the one He was conversing with if any. It was His WORD.
In Ephesians 4:30, it was mentioned: "the Holy Spirit of God" or equivalent to the Spirit of ELOHIM/EL.
In the O.T., whenever God says: "My spirit..." or Spirit of God or God's spirit in other passages, this referring to the Holy Spirit.
Thank you very much.
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But GOD was conversing with someone ?
Who did Nebuchadnezzar see in the fire along the three boys/men?
Rabbit Jewish is too fast turtle are slow😂😂😂😂😂
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