cEDH GAMEPLAY FT. NADU WINGED WISDOM

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024

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  • @GoldSabertooth
    @GoldSabertooth 2 місяці тому +18

    Thanks for the games! Heck of a lot of fun. Not featured were the games Grixis and Etali SMASHED us!!!

  • @pippofelipe6901
    @pippofelipe6901 2 місяці тому +11

    Half of episode are nadu triggers 😂😂

  • @matteolacitignola5540
    @matteolacitignola5540 2 місяці тому +14

    Play the Bird don't ban it, it's more fun to see new combos than the usuals!! For the people who said that makes long turn, is right, but also, ad nauseam line, breach line, time sieve line, Kinna Seedborn are longs. Love for the Bird, love game action, play more spot removal for equipment and remove Nadu. Love your content Alan, keep smash with the Dino!!

    • @orangegrouproduction
      @orangegrouproduction 2 місяці тому +2

      Thank you! We need the meta to evolve. We don't need to ban cards. We need to adapt to change.

    • @fernandob2275
      @fernandob2275 2 місяці тому +2

      Nothing new here. Just ask Tatyova, Thrasios, Aesi, Gitrog lol

  • @AndyG3173
    @AndyG3173 2 місяці тому +9

    Hell yeah, baby. SQUAAAAAK

  • @105Strike105
    @105Strike105 2 місяці тому +3

    Nadu is good for the format. Makes it so everyone cant be so damn greedy. Start running artifact/ enchantment removal. Run more spot removal. Run more board wipes. 1 card from any of the other 3 players and the bird is half out of the game for at least 2 turns behind

  • @_z3i
    @_z3i 2 місяці тому +2

    Honestly in cEDH Nadu is probably fine. It feels a lot like Magda or Sisay as one of those decks with complicated to interact with lines.
    The one thing I'm still waiting to see is how he runs in casual. It feels like Nadu could lead to super long turns which is exactly why Paradox Engine got banned. However, I think that will depend on how many people actually end up playing Nadu in casual.

    • @TheSpiritombsableye
      @TheSpiritombsableye Місяць тому

      That's not why Paradox Engine was banned. It was banned for its ubiquity with mana rocks that are commonplace in every deck.

  • @VeilofDeathMTG
    @VeilofDeathMTG 2 місяці тому +5

    Man this was fun, lets do it again!

  • @yfw123
    @yfw123 2 місяці тому +4

    When it comes to cedh, I believe there is no excuse to accuse the bird of dominating. I mean it is meant to be competitive and if the bird player has that much resources to protect his board, he deserves the victory in the game. What is the point of blaming Nadu when every deck with red simply abuses Dockside Extortionist, bouncing it and replaying it for infinite mana?

    • @105Strike105
      @105Strike105 2 місяці тому

      Yes finally someone understands. And dont forget to mention about taking long as turns. Ive sat there for 20mins to 30 mins waiting for peoples breach lines when no led or braon freeze

  • @AresOMegas
    @AresOMegas 2 місяці тому +1

    The most egregious thing about Nadu apart from insane long turns that might even freaking fizzle is how Nadu interacts with removal.
    If you point removal at him, you go down 1 card while they draw a card. So it is a clean -1 for you compared to the whole table. They can even spike a counter from that draw and punish you for being responsible.
    Conversely, if you try to blow up the artifacts, due to how priority works when they cast them from hand, they get at least 1 draw from the equips triggering nadu. So you are going -1 again. Which is better than straight up dying or spending 30 minutes on an inconclusive turn, but still.
    This card design punishes you for being responsible and interacting with the board, while making it so counterspells are AGAIN the only clean answers to this problem.
    If one single commander forces every single deck to run artifact removal when it is actively below average for the rest of the metagame, then I think the card is problematic

    • @105Strike105
      @105Strike105 2 місяці тому

      No just forcing people to start readjusting there deck and shaking up this turbo midrange meta is healthy for the format

    • @LuanH.-tp8yn
      @LuanH.-tp8yn 2 місяці тому

      Exactly, the card isn't strong enough to impact the format as much as Orcish Bowmasters, Nauseam or One Ring so it doesn't rewards you for playing answers and this almost forces everyone to play blue or lose to a 13 minutes "i may win or not" play, if it at least had 1,2 or even 3 resistance it would dream of being healthy

  • @kstandish42
    @kstandish42 2 місяці тому +2

    Not as KRISPY
    Alan, you are always krispy.

  • @tylerhennessy2701
    @tylerhennessy2701 2 місяці тому +2

    Let’s gooooo bird brain baby!!!

  • @MsThatstuff
    @MsThatstuff 2 місяці тому

    Love the bird it calls for more removal and interaction to be played by everyone

  • @105Strike105
    @105Strike105 2 місяці тому +1

    I love how people are crying about the bird. Reminds me of winota when people are crying its busted. All winota did was shake up the meta and forced people to start playing removal.

  • @dustinjackson8270
    @dustinjackson8270 Місяць тому

    Nadu is insane in my Atraxa list I went back to slotting in toxic deluge and dress down for non targetable ways to slow them down or at least stop them for a turn

  • @unB10
    @unB10 Місяць тому

    Love Nadu. Finally a king to dethrone blue farm. You know it'll get banned instantly lol

  • @emporiumofcuriosity
    @emporiumofcuriosity 2 місяці тому +1

    Always gamblin with gamble

  • @ianmoore059
    @ianmoore059 2 місяці тому +2

    After playing with it/against Nadu for a few weeks.. you just cant let it resolve
    There are so many wacky lines that just win the game on the spot.

  • @hellNo116
    @hellNo116 2 місяці тому

    i have goldfish this bird enough now. the moment i first realised what i could do i was floored. the bird is the word and simic is back on the menu with one of the most pushed cards ever printed in my opinion. like this is not fine. personally i want it in cedh. if someone brings the bird in a casual table i am standing up and leaving. though

  • @jorgeag3333
    @jorgeag3333 2 місяці тому +2

    Where can i see the deck lists?

  • @_rusty_sauce_for_dayz_6036
    @_rusty_sauce_for_dayz_6036 2 місяці тому

    I see nadu as just a simic feather, the redeemed

  • @Jugglerman
    @Jugglerman 2 місяці тому +2

    Nadu is disgusting and amazing. I think Nadu is fine for now, Nadu plays a lot of bad cards that don't work without Nadu. It's sort of like Magda.

  • @Cruzer50143
    @Cruzer50143 2 місяці тому +2

    I don't think the bird is going to get banned. Destroy the artifacts and force them to play a slower paced game. People usually have artifact destruction, so it's not like you're adding more cards to deal with him

  • @jd7391
    @jd7391 2 місяці тому +1

    I agree with your assessment. I would go as far as saying bird is an unhealthy card for all formats. Worse than Paradox Engine since it takes no set up.

  • @iPhoneeditor
    @iPhoneeditor 2 місяці тому +3

    Nadu doesn't have enrage or toxic as abilities, but it definitely feels toxic and infuriating. Can't even bolt that bird smh.

  • @tnsicgaming2329
    @tnsicgaming2329 Місяць тому

    Do you have the decklist for Nadu?

  • @jonlamoreaux2228
    @jonlamoreaux2228 Місяць тому

    dress down baby

  • @douwe3300
    @douwe3300 2 місяці тому

    I removed about everything from my Nadu list to just "do the thing" -> "finale of devestation". Just attack with your dorks, it's fine. You don't need elementals. You don't need kitten. You don't need ewit. You don't need endurance. All potentially dead cards. You need finale and the countermagic to back it up.

  • @BraxtonMeyer
    @BraxtonMeyer 2 місяці тому +1

    i want to understand how the birb works. don't currently

    • @VeilofDeathMTG
      @VeilofDeathMTG 2 місяці тому +1

      You have Bird, You have Scute Swarm...move equipment for free trigger Birb if you put land into play make new scute...and more and more till you basically draw your deck without drawing and just...win from there

  • @user-vn5zh5nq5e
    @user-vn5zh5nq5e 2 місяці тому

    You have the deck list for Nadu?

  • @jonnybirch2268
    @jonnybirch2268 2 місяці тому +1

    There are so many things WotC could’ve done to balance Nadu, and instead they did none of them.
    That being said, I don’t think Nadu will be banned. It’s strong, but I think it’s just benefiting from unfamiliarity and hype right now. I think it will continue to be a force, but I think its weaknesses are too relevant for it to really be broken. It’s too commander dependent and plays way too many bad cards.

  • @thatdude8114
    @thatdude8114 2 місяці тому +2

    I wanna see a game where Shuko and Greaves are on the bottom of the Nadu deck. Lame long draw out win neways imo

    • @Mrfrenzy1
      @Mrfrenzy1 2 місяці тому +1

      Yea, way too many game actions. If any of my friends played this, the whole group would be pissed. I can't even imagine playing it in a competitive setting.
      Gold sabertooth even says "wait I'll show you" multiple times but then inevitably just explains it

    • @105Strike105
      @105Strike105 2 місяці тому

      Just shortcut it. After the first activation can ask table to move it around and jist draw 2 cards per creature

  • @w.s6124
    @w.s6124 2 місяці тому +5

    Nadu not gonna be banned. Would not be sad to see it banned tho thats for sure

  • @voidprism_studios666
    @voidprism_studios666 2 місяці тому

    its max from colors are a crutch!
    but yeah nadu is busted lol. I dont run it as a commander or play cedh but I have him in a High powered Chulane deck and nadu basically just wins the game on the spot with greaves lol.
    There's lots of synergy there because of field of dead, scute swarm and chulane being able to bounce it/reset it esp with aluren.

  • @robpetrie6486
    @robpetrie6486 2 місяці тому

    at lest woundedsatelite got a turn 2 kill but maybe aim it at someone else next time lol

  • @markdolon7037
    @markdolon7037 2 місяці тому

    where's the Nadu decklist?

  • @richardvaughan9685
    @richardvaughan9685 2 місяці тому +1

    BAN THE BIRD

  • @thomas_was_taken
    @thomas_was_taken 2 місяці тому +1

    People are overreacting to Nadu because it's new. It's very good, but I don't think it's the #1 deck in the format, it's card quality is questionable without the commander.

    • @LuanH.-tp8yn
      @LuanH.-tp8yn 2 місяці тому

      That's the problem. Not good enough to shape the format around but have almost every single upside it could get. Is a flyer, have 4 toughness,comes with a Thrasios ability but Edric/Orvar triggered, can easily go infinite, punishes interaction and has only 3 cmc. Even Kinnan that hs much maore consistency and performs better is more balanced than this. It's not about how strong it is, is about why does they printed a card that seems like a simic casual player tired of losing to removal has designed it.

  • @crazykhespar8487
    @crazykhespar8487 2 місяці тому

    Banning Nadu is a noob move

  • @thedevilcomes2011
    @thedevilcomes2011 2 місяці тому

    Cackkawwww

  • @grimbourne
    @grimbourne 2 місяці тому

    Hopefully they Ban Nadu alot quicker than what it took them to do Golos!

  • @ImARichard
    @ImARichard 2 місяці тому +1

    Nadu go BRRRRRRRRRRR
    What a card. What was wizards thinking?

  • @rocklobster512
    @rocklobster512 2 місяці тому +1

    you trigged nadu beyond the twice per turn at multiple points. it ultimately would not have mattered, but watch out.

    • @TheSpiritombsableye
      @TheSpiritombsableye Місяць тому +1

      He cloned Nadu. As it was a fresh Nadu, it had new text.

  • @TausHerper
    @TausHerper 2 місяці тому +1

    I think its one of the most busted cards and will likely be banned!

  • @mandielyn0416
    @mandielyn0416 2 місяці тому

    You were supposed to play the bird not ban it. Bring balance to the format not leave it in T&k darkness.

  • @mindlessl0ser
    @mindlessl0ser 2 місяці тому

    birds gonna be banned, the rules advisory bans around casual and its causing unfun games in casual which how they base their bans mostly on.

    • @TheSpiritombsableye
      @TheSpiritombsableye Місяць тому

      You can always walk away from the table. A commander being unfun is a comically difficult bar to achieve to constitute a ban.

  • @brianrowe5624
    @brianrowe5624 2 місяці тому +1

    This bird is so dumb

  • @tripdowney9175
    @tripdowney9175 Місяць тому

    Nadu requires no actual skill, just holds your hand thru the game and only guys who’s ego is bursted when they lose play this crap.