@@CameramanRon hey I don’t blame ya it’s a nice boat, anyway if ya ever wanna get on a boat and try mobile bay or little lagoon let me know, I’m trying to get my channel off the ground and could use some pointers. Or just wanna try fishing there since I see y’all never fish the little lagoon
I wasn't expecting to make a guest appearance in this one lol! I still can't believe Mako hasn't reached out to you guys, that blew me away when I first heard ya'll talk about it! The old Mako is definitely limited on space, was a neat balancing act at times with the 4 of us and all of our gear, I remember thinking I was gonna knock Beach Bum off at one point and then Brant tripping over something another time that day! Def gotta weigh your options though and make the best good & informed decision that you can once all the pros and cons are weighed out!
The Mako has served its purpose, it allowed you to experience boat ownership (you have to love it to like it), it took you out and brought you back, it allowed you to fish many different areas, it provided you a starting point to understand the features/options you need in your next boat. Storage and DRY storage, more space (Clickbaiters is growing), rod holder options, the appreciation for an easy to use, easy to launch boat. I'm excited for you and can't wait to see what you get. My two cents worth: 1) a built in fish box ( a cooler takes up space), 2) tackle storage that is out of the way, 3) adequate access to the bilge area for repairs (I learned that one the hard way), 4) a raw water/saltwater washdown pump and hose with a sprayer. Best of luck.
I run a 17 pro skiff and for me I'm very happy with her. I'll probably add some rod holders on the boat and may even have a t top built for it but for every kind of fishing I do it's been the perfect boat.
I own MPS 17 also and everything you mentioned has also been my struggle. In addition to no storage my next issue is seating. When we go to the sandbar as a family, its very difficult to not be stressed out due to the lack of seating. We have used 2 bean bags that we placed near the stern but we are just to close. Also would recommend adding a cleat to the front of the boat to tie off the 8anchor. Speaking of anchors, the front anchor locker is a joke. Way too small for the type of anchor needed to properly secure your boat. I am also contemplating selling mine and getting something better suited for fishing and sandbar life. Thank you for your honesty.
Support small business guys!! I'm sure you have local custom boat builders close to you, ready to build whatever your heart's desire!! This pandemic has killed small businesses, and those of us who are still around could really use the help!!
Hey CMR I actually just took delivery of my 22 MPS 17 about a month ago and I actually got it thanks to your videos. I fish alone or with one person so it’s perfect for me. I know Mako should’ve definitely reached out to you guys. I wouldn’t of bought the mako if I didn’t see it on your channel and I know I’m not alone! Good luck on the boat search!
I think you should keep the good old Mako as a river boat and shallow water boat and get one of the best offers you guys are getting from other companies. I really like the Mako because of all of the adventures you guys have had on it. Tight lines Ron. Have a great one
Not sure if you'd consider an aluminum boat, but Excel makes some nice aluminum bay boats. Their flagship 230 bay pro would work for payload and stability and still able to get in to skinny water. I own an Excel bay pro 203 and really like it. An added plus is they have built in accessory rails on the gunnels to mount rod holders and other things.
Like many folks, I resent what avaricious lawyers have done to our civil justice system (enriching for them and their clients but raising prices for the rest of us). However, if the bait well problem was a design flaw, Mako should offer compensation or make it right.
I recommend you get an open fish catamaran. They're more stable than monohulls, they use less fuel and you get more deck space than a monohull of the same length. They're just better in every way.
Recently aquired a 2016 blue wave pure bay 2000, Love every part of the boat, extremely smooth ride, a ton of storage and plenty of fishing space, went on vacation to Crystal River with 5 people a few months ago and had 0 issues fishing at the same time I highly recommend looking in to a blue wave!
Your original channel and reviews were the main reason I bought my Mako. I agree with what your problems with the boat 100% because I have the exact same issues. I keep mine for the cost point. I can't believe Mako hasn't reached out to you, especially with how much you have promoted their brand for free. I literally bought mine because of this channel.
Dude. I love Sea Pro boats. Suzuki engines are where it's at, too. Actually just sold my 228 bay and am upgrading to the 248 bay (with a Suzuki 350!). Excited I get to take delivery next week. Best of luck and have fun with the search!
Having watched all the reviews up to this point(following you on the one year review and dropped back and caught up with the others) you have always had love for the MAKO. Point 1- a little small for the bays when the wind is blowing and choppy. Point 2 - great to get up in the creeks and winter fish.(trout, reds and stripper) Point 3- with the whole crew wanting to fish space is tight. So it is a balancing act up size too much and the creek and winter time fishing will take a hit. Whatever you and Sarah decide y’all will knock it out of the park.
First off. If you get rid of it, will you miss it, or be glad it’s gone? There is NO perfect boat! Just perfect for you! Meaning, all the good out ways the bad! Also, either get the middle live well working or seal it off and use it as dry storage or something else! All boats are gonna have something that ya don’t like or ya wish was different! And as far as the manufacture, as long as its (the boat) not leaking or falling apart! Then fix it or change the things you can, or don’t like. People are just people, and people run the company, some company's are better, means better quality of people running it. Some are willing to do better than others! Hope this makes some sense!
PS Ron could you have used a air system that plugs in for front box and have dry storage box on top of the other one you could use it as a fishing platform and hey they sell rod holders if or when you get next boat I be happy to help with recommendation for any of your questions you and your family have been a pleasure to watch thanks for the video 😊
Ron I discovered you and brant from your older Mako review I was considering between the mako and a G3 bay boat. Your review on the mako was one of like 3. So I understand your disappointment. I went with the G3 by the way. Keep up the great content!
You guys definitely need a bigger boat. I don't know if you're each getting one or co-owning a boat together, whatever the case may be, Beach Bum needs some backing in lessons.
So ... the company that DESIGNED and built the boat - are saying they can't do anything because it's a design flaw. Nevermind that they removed it because it didn't work, then just put it back without changing the design. This is really steering me towards saving the money and just buying an aluminum boat.
If it wasn’t for your thorough reviews, I may not have felt as comfortable buying my 17’ MPS earlier this year (first time boat owner). Riley at Scott’s Marine even mentioned your videos when I was debating the purchase. I just installed my MK Terrova last week and can’t wait to do more fishing!
Salutations from South Africa! Before you change boats, do a Boat V. Boat with VitaminDee. Losers have to clean both boats. Regardless of which bigger boat you get I'll still eagerly await each episode! As always, keep smoking them reels!
I just sold a Key West 230BR. Had a 250 Yamaha. T-top. Boat was stable, dry, great ride, ample dry storage, owned it 5-6 years and everything still works as it should. Although, pumps wear out and other things are gonna crap out with age. 23’ may not be the size you’re looking for but I’d give Key West a look see. They have many models to choose from and I think they are a North Carolina boat. They also are a very good company and stand behind their boats.
Hey Ron you guys used that boat for a lot of videos and I’m going to miss it but you are definitely right about Mako not reaching out to you guys and try to make mends meet. If you got a larger boat company lined up go for that definitely. I would love to see some new videos on a new boat absolutely!
I hope you guys go to an aluminum option. Like either an Excel or Xpress bay boat. What most folks can afford, seem like a lot of storage, and supposed to handle rough water really well.
Could not blame you one bit bro,as much as you all have had that Mako publicized and not to mention the good things you all have had to say about it. That's pretty sad they haven't even reached out to you about some sort of deal with them. Best of luck on possibly having a new ride,maybe something a little bigger to handle a little bigger water's out there, who knows were you guy's could be fishing at. Be out in those deep waters. Tight lines to you all my friends 🎣🎣🎣🚤🚤🛳
I've been looking at bay boats for a while. Ranger and skeeter bay boats have lots of storage and great seals and deep gutters to ensure they stay dry.
I own a 2021 purebay 2200 and it's a wonderful boat. I fish mobile Bay area and it handles great.. Tons of storage for the size. Baitwells are excellent too.
You didn’t really mention your fishing needs. Are you planning on upping your game and heading offshore or are you sticking to nearshore/inshore fishing? Sounds like you are leaning more towards a bay boat. Good luck and keep us in the loop.
I own a deeper v hull Mako and I will say accessibility is an issue. I think you guys may have a hard time finding a boat to meet your storage and space needs but allow the ability to access all areas as to where you fish. I know they make larger flats boats. It’s exciting to see what you guys plan. Keeping the mako if affordable may be your best option to allow you to continue the full spectrum of your content creating while also getting a larger boat.
Hard to believe it might go away, but definitely understand. BTW there is a product called T-9 Boeshield that should remove the rust, and prevent any future corrosion. So hard to get that perfect mix of a boat that allows you to get into tight areas, and would be a stable platform for offshore. Hate to suggest it, but maybe there is a need for 2 boats? The Mako stays to fill the back water needs, and the new one let's you get out into the bay and offshore regardless of conditions. Decisions decisions!!1
Blazer Bay is local, they build them in Ellison Field, I'd love to see a local company use local guys to reach a large audience, good luck, I love my ProLine.
I would recommend something that fits the channel. It would be sad to see it go for sure. But Mako should have better customer service. A 2020 boat should not have those issues Captain Ron!
@@CameramanRon Still you spent good money on a new boat man! I would take it as a learning experience and not buy from them again if they can not take care of their customers.
It’s time to move on, it’s not big enough, and they are getting free publicity from you guys and they can’t appreciate it , time to move on to a company that appreciates what you do and is willing to deal and make good with you guys! Love all your shows!
I can’t hardly believe out of all the exposure you’ve given mako with your boat that they haven’t reached out to you with some kind of sponsorship at least... corporate ???
Hey bud, I would look for an older year pathfinder. Something that’s a reasonable price because we all know they run high but it’s a damn good boat with a lot of storage and stability
You need more rod holders , more room for when all of y'all are fishing , there some boats that when you find it , y'all will definitely know , hope the best for you and your family , and the guys ,and there family ,
From listening to your video, it sounds like you have outgrown the boat. Get a boat that allows you to make fishing videos and will safely allow more than 2 people fishing. If you are going to be making videos, you need the correct equipment. You may want to reach out to other fishing content creators to see what they would recommend.
Ive noticed a few YT channels inquiring about boat sponsorship. Saw one guys deal fell thru at last minute due to the companys partners could not agree. But bit surprized that Mako didnt want to make a deal. Ive got a Scout 195 Sportfisher. Only had it couple of months but I find it perfect for my needs. Been 25/30 miles offshore so far fine and dont see me needing to go further. But its a popular boat as is the Mako so MAYBE they did not think they needed help selling them. But hey who knows how companys mminds work. Good luck.
Do some digging on information on the Ranger boats before you go there. I am pretty sure that they are owned by Bass Pro Shop just like Mako and several other brands of boats.
Mako is owned by Johnny Morris of Bass Pro Shops. All he cares about is selling numbers of boats, not necessarily the quality. He initiated the package boat deal when he started selling tracker boats. Just remember man law, which is if you sell a boat you have to get a bigger boat.
I work on a tugboat we use that stuff all the time. West marine has some awesome marine grade stainless bolts that won’t do that to I used it for my old bay boat and never had any issues. My boat pretty stayed in the salty waters in south Louisiana. I figured you already knew that just wanted to inform you of it buddy
@@CameramanRon no doubt about that!! I like what you guys are saying about the audience trying to get a boat that is affordable for ppl like me. Not everyone can afford a yellowfin lol. Can’t wait to see what boat you end up with!! Hopefully it’s something that has better storage space and ride quality. I am personally bout to order a prodrive next year. It’s a surface drive boat. Once I get her in my hands I’ll send you a few pics lol
I agree it is a hard decision for a predominantly inshore fisherman. I keep thinking it would be nice to have a boat that you can take offshore from time to time. But you sacrifice going in skinny water with a deeper hull. But lack of storage can be a huge bummer. If you are staying with flats boats or technical poling skiffs your options are somewhat limited. Not to mention the financial factor. I can't justify spending $100K or more on a boat. Best of luck in your search. It might be kind of neat to narrow it down to one or two boats and let the viewers decide. But in the end it is you alls money not ours. I would say the majority of us would watch if you used a life raft. Lol. Love your shows. You guys are the best.
Cameraman Ron If you guys are looking new boats Mako and Ranger are being made right here in my little town of New Bern, NC. Plus I sent Brant a message earlier about coming up here and doing a video with our amazing trout bite we have in the winter.
mako is owned by bass pro shop so not sure what they consider beneficial marketing for their boats...glad that ya'll have options...in the mean time that does seem like a very functional fishing rig...lot of times you do wind being creative to set something up on a boat to get it to work as you see fit...also figure out how to lock up your boxes etc to keep folks from putting fish guts and bait into hidden areas for you to find later lol...safety first
Maybe, keep the Maco. How much is it worth on a resale? Could this option would work as well? Two times the filming. Camping overnights using the 'boats'? Shots from one boat to the other would raise you on the rung a bit. Love the content. Love the fishing.
Hi Ron, I just took my pro skiff 17 for the 20hr service, and told them about the front live well issue, and they said I have prime it, while being on the water, open the valve, with the motor on and go reverse, and should work.
Man dude I would love to see you guys get a new and bigger boat. We all know what happens offshore with Mr. Landry.... oh and don’t forget to fix the rod holder ha ha on the Meiko
You’d think if mako knows about the bait well is a issue they would recall it or stop producing a flawed boat. Think I’d move on especially if mako not even talking to you. Good luck
You get what you pay for. The Mako is the least expensive boat you can buy for salt water. I almost bought a Mako because of your review. I ended up buying a used Robalo Cayman 206 Bay Boat. Now I'm glad I did not buy a skiff style boat. Let your conscious be your guide ! LOL !
If it doesn't work from the factory, they should, By Law, make it right! The design flaw BS is the Corp way of saying, we do not want to spend the $ to make it right.
You should do what's best for you. If it doesn't fit what you need it for then look at other manufacturers and maybe they have a model that's similar but with the options that you need
I had a mako it was all right But I prefer a 21 proline Lots of Space a great inshore offshore boat great boat all around Take it from somebody that would go fishing every week l Love that boat Check them out
Don’t buy a Robalo. Mine gets the job done but if I could do it all again I’d go with a Blazer Bay 2440. They can get in skinny or big water and have plenty of room for storage and fishing. Only downside I’ve seen to them is there’s not one rod holder in the gunwales. Plenty in the top but none on the sides.
@@CameramanRon It would be a chore to do it yourself but I don’t see why they wouldn’t be able to do it from the factory if you have one custom built. That shouldn’t be a problem at all. I think I counted 18 holders in the console and the top though. It’s a damn fine boat built right there in Pensacola. I would imagine they are a company y’all have been in contact with though.
Sell it! I've had a 16' Mako for two months and I'm ready to sell due to the lean stability and draft. The beam is too narrow and that causes a serious lean. If there are two people in the boat, both cannot stand on the same side without focus on not falling out of the boat. Another reason I want to sell is the draft. Mako claims the boat drafts in 8" of water, that might be true with an empty hull and no motor. This boat drafts at 16" and trimmed at 14". Boat requires a jack plate to go skinnier and I don't see spending anymore money on a boat with extremely limited storage, small fuel tank, a plastic center console and bait well that doesn't work. On the other hand, it's a great little boat for one person.
My express is a side console for 6.5 k used w a 60 Yamaha tlra it works just re powerful it 02 that 74 4 stroke would be nice but it’s the same wieght as a 90 so. A 70 hp would be feasible 100 lb lighter It would be nice for a boat to handle chop better then a flat bottom
get you a cuddy cab or bass boat if your looking for boats with storage. ...this aint one of them. i have yet to own a cc that has any kind of great storage.
That mercury engine is one problem every one I had or family had and did service on time. It still had problems and didn't last long but Suzuki motors you do normal service and. They last for years
You need to take it on a last ride. Road trip it from Florida to California fishing the coast lakes and rivers all the way. And then sell it to me for $1000 because I’m a cool guy.
For the record, while I did not buy a Mako, I had never HEARD of Mako before you and when I was shopping I started at Mako because of you. In the end, I put off buying a boat for now. But Mako should recognize that they were NOT recognized by many until CMR and Brant got involved.
@@andy6043, there's LOTS of companies older than me (even though that makes them an antique! :)). My point is a Southern Illinois old man who fishes freshwater mostly, I had never heard of them. I'm not sure if too many folks on the coast has ever heard of a Reelfoot lake boat (look it up and get a laugh!). But my point is, if CMR was in Kentucky, and shot videos for a solid year in one of these (it's basically a canoe with a Briggs and Stratton lawnmower engine in it), there would be MANY people who would suddenly know of them.
@@pauljuniordavis I think Mako was mostly an offshore Florida boat in the beginning, I've known of the name for 35+ years. I like Jeff Spira's designs although most folks don't know who he is. He has a lot of designs of self built wood boats that are cheap to build. I'm thinking of using his designs for an Aluminum boat for myself .
For the price of a new Boat you can get a lot more boat by checking preowned out West, Denver or Arizona there are used bay boats in the dessert and most have never even seen salt water
That's pretty sad for the money that people pay for a boat like that that the manufacturer is basically being negligent! Customer service is far, few and in between nowadays! I'd can Mako man and go with another brand1
@@CameramanRon they are some amazing young ladies. I’m pretty sure they were the youngest females ever to obtain their 50 ton class licenses. The SCOUT 231 XSB they feature as part of their series was awesome.
Bay Rider Skiff 2460 A lot of the nearshore charter guys here in NC run these. They are nice. I think they draft 10" and we have grouper fished offshore in one as well.
Check out all of our reviews on the mako pro skiff 17. ua-cam.com/play/PL-er9dhoo8N8IwP7SLrUb6qjtjx2rCQOg.html
Do a subscriber giveaway..... I been subscribed so thank you for the boat lol. Love the videos man keep it up 🦅🌎⚓️🇺🇸
@@jaretthadley4783 prolly won’t be giving this away.
@@CameramanRon hey I don’t blame ya it’s a nice boat, anyway if ya ever wanna get on a boat and try mobile bay or little lagoon let me know, I’m trying to get my channel off the ground and could use some pointers. Or just wanna try fishing there since I see y’all never fish the little lagoon
Ok are you not going with a skiff anymore. Most skiffs don’t have the storage.
I wasn't expecting to make a guest appearance in this one lol! I still can't believe Mako hasn't reached out to you guys, that blew me away when I first heard ya'll talk about it! The old Mako is definitely limited on space, was a neat balancing act at times with the 4 of us and all of our gear, I remember thinking I was gonna knock Beach Bum off at one point and then Brant tripping over something another time that day! Def gotta weigh your options though and make the best good & informed decision that you can once all the pros and cons are weighed out!
We’re trying to!
The Mako has served its purpose, it allowed you to experience boat ownership (you have to love it to like it), it took you out and brought you back, it allowed you to fish many different areas, it provided you a starting point to understand the features/options you need in your next boat. Storage and DRY storage, more space (Clickbaiters is growing), rod holder options, the appreciation for an easy to use, easy to launch boat. I'm excited for you and can't wait to see what you get. My two cents worth: 1) a built in fish box ( a cooler takes up space), 2) tackle storage that is out of the way, 3) adequate access to the bilge area for repairs (I learned that one the hard way), 4) a raw water/saltwater washdown pump and hose with a sprayer. Best of luck.
All of these are great features to look at for sure.
I run a 17 pro skiff and for me I'm very happy with her. I'll probably add some rod holders on the boat and may even have a t top built for it but for every kind of fishing I do it's been the perfect boat.
I own MPS 17 also and everything you mentioned has also been my struggle. In addition to no storage my next issue is seating. When we go to the sandbar as a family, its very difficult to not be stressed out due to the lack of seating. We have used 2 bean bags that we placed near the stern but we are just to close. Also would recommend adding a cleat to the front of the boat to tie off the 8anchor. Speaking of anchors, the front anchor locker is a joke. Way too small for the type of anchor needed to properly secure your boat. I am also contemplating selling mine and getting something better suited for fishing and sandbar life. Thank you for your honesty.
could def use more seats that is for sure
Support small business guys!! I'm sure you have local custom boat builders close to you, ready to build whatever your heart's desire!! This pandemic has killed small businesses, and those of us who are still around could really use the help!!
Hey CMR I actually just took delivery of my 22 MPS 17 about a month ago and I actually got it thanks to your videos. I fish alone or with one person so it’s perfect for me. I know Mako should’ve definitely reached out to you guys. I wouldn’t of bought the mako if I didn’t see it on your channel and I know I’m not alone! Good luck on the boat search!
Enjoy it man! It’s an awesome boat!!
@@CameramanRon thank you very much and know that if your ever in the nature coast you have a mako to fish on! Tight lines!
I think you should keep the good old Mako as a river boat and shallow water boat and get one of the best offers you guys are getting from other companies. I really like the Mako because of all of the adventures you guys have had on it. Tight lines Ron. Have a great one
Thanks for the input!
Not sure if you'd consider an aluminum boat, but Excel makes some nice aluminum bay boats. Their flagship 230 bay pro would work for payload and stability and still able to get in to skinny water. I own an Excel bay pro 203 and really like it. An added plus is they have built in accessory rails on the gunnels to mount rod holders and other things.
Def not against aluminum
Like many folks, I resent what avaricious lawyers have done to our civil justice system (enriching for them and their clients but raising prices for the rest of us). However, if the bait well problem was a design flaw, Mako should offer compensation or make it right.
I recommend you get an open fish catamaran. They're more stable than monohulls, they use less fuel and you get more deck space than a monohull of the same length. They're just better in every way.
Def something to consider
@@CameramanRon you need to at least take a test ride in a catamaran, most people love them
Recently aquired a 2016 blue wave pure bay 2000, Love every part of the boat, extremely smooth ride, a ton of storage and plenty of fishing space, went on vacation to Crystal River with 5 people a few months ago and had 0 issues fishing at the same time I highly recommend looking in to a blue wave!
Hadn’t heard of that one
Your original channel and reviews were the main reason I bought my Mako. I agree with what your problems with the boat 100% because I have the exact same issues. I keep mine for the cost point. I can't believe Mako hasn't reached out to you, especially with how much you have promoted their brand for free. I literally bought mine because of this channel.
Appreciate that Jarrod!!
Dude. I love Sea Pro boats. Suzuki engines are where it's at, too. Actually just sold my 228 bay and am upgrading to the 248 bay (with a Suzuki 350!). Excited I get to take delivery next week. Best of luck and have fun with the search!
Thanks!!
Owned a Seapro (24') myself. My favorite behind my number 1, a Scout boat. But my scout was a bay boat.
You're the reason I'm considering a mako for catfish. But the baitwell issue is holding me up. Can't wait to see what yall get.
Thanks!
Don’t blame you for thinking of moving on. Have y’all reached out to mako and asked them why they aren’t trying to work a deal from them?
Nah they got a lot bigger fish than us
Pair Customs 21 or 24 Mod V…
I have one in Navarre… y’all’s style of fishing would be a great match. Simple & functional boat…
Having watched all the reviews up to this point(following you on the one year review and dropped back and caught up with the others) you have always had love for the MAKO.
Point 1- a little small for the bays when the wind is blowing and choppy.
Point 2 - great to get up in the creeks and winter fish.(trout, reds and stripper)
Point 3- with the whole crew wanting to fish space is tight.
So it is a balancing act up size too much and the creek and winter time fishing will take a hit.
Whatever you and Sarah decide y’all will knock it out of the park.
It really is!
First off. If you get rid of it, will you miss it, or be glad it’s gone? There is NO perfect boat! Just perfect for you! Meaning, all the good out ways the bad! Also, either get the middle live well working or seal it off and use it as dry storage or something else! All boats are gonna have something that ya don’t like or ya wish was different! And as far as the manufacture, as long as its (the boat) not leaking or falling apart! Then fix it or change the things you can, or don’t like. People are just people, and people run the company, some company's are better, means better quality of people running it. Some are willing to do better than others! Hope this makes some sense!
PS Ron could you have used a air system that plugs in for front box and have dry storage box on top of the other one you could use it as a fishing platform and hey they sell rod holders if or when you get next boat I be happy to help with recommendation for any of your questions you and your family have been a pleasure to watch thanks for the video 😊
Appreciate you watching!
Ron I discovered you and brant from your older Mako review I was considering between the mako and a G3 bay boat. Your review on the mako was one of like 3. So I understand your disappointment. I went with the G3 by the way. Keep up the great content!
Appreciate you watching!
Sad to hear your getting rid of the Boat.
Love your Videos. Honest and forthright.
Thanks Rocky!
@@CameramanRon I still love the video of Sarah laying across the Mako as you gave us a review.
Love your videos.
That rear rod holder where the rust stain is, get some Bar Keepers Friend to remove the stain.
You guys definitely need a bigger boat. I don't know if you're each getting one or co-owning a boat together, whatever the case may be, Beach Bum needs some backing in lessons.
Lmao!! You are not wrong
Great and honest review of the beloved mako. Your doing great things and growing. Can't wait to see what happens in the future!
Thanks!
It’s time Brandt buys a new boat 🚣🏾♀️ and starts taking you out . No more free loaders.
Hardly a free loader man, and he actually is getting a boat very soon.
Somebody who has no clue about our business agreement but has an opinion. Funny
So ... the company that DESIGNED and built the boat - are saying they can't do anything because it's a design flaw. Nevermind that they removed it because it didn't work, then just put it back without changing the design.
This is really steering me towards saving the money and just buying an aluminum boat.
If it wasn’t for your thorough reviews, I may not have felt as comfortable buying my 17’ MPS earlier this year (first time boat owner). Riley at Scott’s Marine even mentioned your videos when I was debating the purchase. I just installed my MK Terrova last week and can’t wait to do more fishing!
I’m glad your enjoying it.
Salutations from South Africa! Before you change boats, do a Boat V. Boat with VitaminDee. Losers have to clean both boats. Regardless of which bigger boat you get I'll still eagerly await each episode! As always, keep smoking them reels!
Appreciate you watching!! Great idea!
I have a 16ft boat but I love Dees boat layout better than mine. It looks bigger than 16 foot.
I just sold a Key West 230BR. Had a 250 Yamaha. T-top. Boat was stable, dry, great ride, ample dry storage, owned it 5-6 years and everything still works as it should. Although, pumps wear out and other things are gonna crap out with age.
23’ may not be the size you’re looking for but I’d give Key West a look see. They have many models to choose from and I think they are a North Carolina boat. They also are a very good company and stand behind their boats.
I just sold it to move back to an offshore boat.
Hey Ron you guys used that boat for a lot of videos and I’m going to miss it but you are definitely right about Mako not reaching out to you guys and try to make mends meet. If you got a larger boat company lined up go for that definitely. I would love to see some new videos on a new boat absolutely!
Thanks!
I hope you guys go to an aluminum option. Like either an Excel or Xpress bay boat. What most folks can afford, seem like a lot of storage, and supposed to handle rough water really well.
We’re def not coloring all options
Ron if Mako hasn't even said hey, not to mention fix the bait well drop them like a bad penny my KY brother.
I still love the mako but I’ve had my fill of “nothing we can dos”
Could not blame you one bit bro,as much as you all have had that Mako publicized and not to mention the good things you all have had to say about it. That's pretty sad they haven't even reached out to you about some sort of deal with them. Best of luck on possibly having a new ride,maybe something a little bigger to handle a little bigger water's out there, who knows were you guy's could be fishing at. Be out in those deep waters. Tight lines to you all my friends 🎣🎣🎣🚤🚤🛳
Appreciate that Chris!
Fish out of my 201 bay scout. Excellent storage, fish up to 3-4 people. Hold their value really well
Awesome!
I've been looking at bay boats for a while. Ranger and skeeter bay boats have lots of storage and great seals and deep gutters to ensure they stay dry.
That’s def a huge plus!
Blue Wave all the way! Smooth riding, tons of storage! Can’t go wrong.
I own a 2021 purebay 2200 and it's a wonderful boat. I fish mobile Bay area and it handles great.. Tons of storage for the size. Baitwells are excellent too.
I’ll have to check em out
@@CameramanRon with a 250 suzuki and fully loaded I'm seeing speeds of 55-60mph. And at cruising speed of 35mph it gets around 4.5mpg.
You didn’t really mention your fishing needs. Are you planning on upping your game and heading offshore or are you sticking to nearshore/inshore fishing? Sounds like you are leaning more towards a bay boat. Good luck and keep us in the loop.
Def will!
I own a deeper v hull Mako and I will say accessibility is an issue. I think you guys may have a hard time finding a boat to meet your storage and space needs but allow the ability to access all areas as to where you fish. I know they make larger flats boats. It’s exciting to see what you guys plan. Keeping the mako if affordable may be your best option to allow you to continue the full spectrum of your content creating while also getting a larger boat.
Great advice!
@@CameramanRon good luck in your decision! I’m sure it will be the right one.
Hard to believe it might go away, but definitely understand. BTW there is a product called T-9 Boeshield that should remove the rust, and prevent any future corrosion. So hard to get that perfect mix of a boat that allows you to get into tight areas, and would be a stable platform for offshore. Hate to suggest it, but maybe there is a need for 2 boats? The Mako stays to fill the back water needs, and the new one let's you get out into the bay and offshore regardless of conditions. Decisions decisions!!1
That’s an option to!
I have a 2002 whaler 130 with a brand new yammy 40. I was thinking of selling it and getting into this mako just for a lil more room.
The mako is great and def has a ton of fishing room!
Blazer Bay is local, they build them in Ellison Field, I'd love to see a local company use local guys to reach a large audience, good luck, I love my ProLine.
Blazer bay is def an option
The owner of L&M marine now either owns a portion or all of the Blazer Bay company. Maybe yall could get in contact with him and work something out.
Get Eugene a boat and a camera 🎥 Now that would be entertaining 😎
Lol he would total it in a day!
I would recommend something that fits the channel. It would be sad to see it go for sure. But Mako should have better customer service. A 2020 boat should not have those issues Captain Ron!
Im sure they have bigger fish than us
@@CameramanRon Still you spent good money on a new boat man! I would take it as a learning experience and not buy from them again if they can not take care of their customers.
It’s time to move on, it’s not big enough, and they are getting free publicity from you guys and they can’t appreciate it , time to move on to a company that appreciates what you do and is willing to deal and make good with you guys! Love all your shows!
sad but true
I can’t hardly believe out of all the exposure you’ve given mako with your boat that they haven’t reached out to you with some kind of sponsorship at least... corporate ???
Not at all. We’re small peas to them though
Hey bud, I would look for an older year pathfinder. Something that’s a reasonable price because we all know they run high but it’s a damn good boat with a lot of storage and stability
They def are great boats
You need more rod holders , more room for when all of y'all are fishing , there some boats that when you find it , y'all will definitely know , hope the best for you and your family , and the guys ,and there family ,
Thanks Ray
just make sure you power it with a suzuki, Nothing but great things heard from their owners. Ask Brant.
I have def heard great things about suzuki engines
Sell that thang!!!! keep growing and keep moving forward
Thanks!
I always do the magnet test with stainless steel stuff, it's not supposed to stick if it's stainless 👌
That’s a great idea.
Be aware that there are magnetic stainless steels as well as non magnetic.
From listening to your video, it sounds like you have outgrown the boat. Get a boat that allows you to make fishing videos and will safely allow more than 2 people fishing.
If you are going to be making videos, you need the correct equipment. You may want to reach out to other fishing content creators to see what they would recommend.
Great advice.
Find you a partnership with a boat manufacturer that works for you. Whatever you do I will be here to watch and enjoy.
Appreciate that Kyle!
Ive noticed a few YT channels inquiring about boat sponsorship. Saw one guys deal fell thru at last minute due to the companys partners could not agree. But bit surprized that Mako didnt want to make a deal. Ive got a Scout 195 Sportfisher. Only had it couple of months but I find it perfect for my needs. Been 25/30 miles offshore so far fine and dont see me needing to go further. But its a popular boat as is the Mako so MAYBE they did not think they needed help selling them. But hey who knows how companys mminds work. Good luck.
no doubt! bigger companies def deal less with influencers
HE SAID I TOLD MATT NOT TO DO THAT💯🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👊🤟🙏
Lol
You do know a Boston whalers pretty much unsinkable you can cut it in half and it still won't sink
dang that is pretty impressive
Ron I've owned Ranger boats all my life. Never had any issues! The Ranger bay boats are awesome, and customer service is second to none.
Does ranger make a bay boat
@@CameramanRon yes they do. I have one of their bass boats for 5 years and haven't had any issues
Do some digging on information on the Ranger boats before you go there. I am pretty sure that they are owned by Bass Pro Shop just like Mako and several other brands of boats.
Time to move on boys! Y’all need a bigger boat and need the correct storage, live wells ect… Have fun in finding a new vessel! Love the channel!
Thanks Scott!
Mako is owned by Johnny Morris of Bass Pro Shops. All he cares about is selling numbers of boats, not necessarily the quality. He initiated the package boat deal when he started selling tracker boats. Just remember man law, which is if you sell a boat you have to get a bigger boat.
Truth!
The ospho is also great for that surface rust spray or bush it on wait a minute and scrub and rinse. The surface rust will come off
I figured it may work up there. I mainly need to get it off right now so I can replace the bolts
I work on a tugboat we use that stuff all the time. West marine has some awesome marine grade stainless bolts that won’t do that to I used it for my old bay boat and never had any issues. My boat pretty stayed in the salty waters in south Louisiana. I figured you already knew that just wanted to inform you of it buddy
@@dannyneal9713 I’ll def be buying my next stainless steel boats from a marine store lol
@@CameramanRon no doubt about that!! I like what you guys are saying about the audience trying to get a boat that is affordable for ppl like me. Not everyone can afford a yellowfin lol. Can’t wait to see what boat you end up with!! Hopefully it’s something that has better storage space and ride quality. I am personally bout to order a prodrive next year. It’s a surface drive boat. Once I get her in my hands I’ll send you a few pics lol
I agree it is a hard decision for a predominantly inshore fisherman. I keep thinking it would be nice to have a boat that you can take offshore from time to time. But you sacrifice going in skinny water with a deeper hull. But lack of storage can be a huge bummer. If you are staying with flats boats or technical poling skiffs your options are somewhat limited. Not to mention the financial factor. I can't justify spending $100K or more on a boat. Best of luck in your search. It might be kind of neat to narrow it down to one or two boats and let the viewers decide. But in the end it is you alls money not ours. I would say the majority of us would watch if you used a life raft. Lol. Love your shows. You guys are the best.
Yeah I don’t do a ton of offshore and honestly not sure I would without a dual engine boat.
Cameraman Ron If you guys are looking new boats Mako and Ranger are being made right here in my little town of New Bern, NC. Plus I sent Brant a message earlier about coming up here and doing a video with our amazing trout bite we have in the winter.
mako is owned by bass pro shop so not sure what they consider beneficial marketing for their boats...glad that ya'll have options...in the mean time that does seem like a very functional fishing rig...lot of times you do wind being creative to set something up on a boat to get it to work as you see fit...also figure out how to lock up your boxes etc to keep folks from putting fish guts and bait into hidden areas for you to find later lol...safety first
No doubt!
Thanks for the video ! was considering buying a Mako but changed my mind ..If the company can not reach out to a buyer , its a deal breaker .
Sad to see it go but really happy to see new content on a new boat man. Just want to say you inspired me to get a one wheel
That’s awesome!
Maybe, keep the Maco. How much is it worth on a resale? Could this option would work as well? Two times the filming. Camping overnights using the 'boats'? Shots from one boat to the other would raise you on the rung a bit. Love the content. Love the fishing.
The mako has a resale value that is very high!
@@CameramanRon Just was wondering if it is worth keeping as an asset.
Hope your boat search works out well CMR!
Thanks Tim
Hi Ron, I just took my pro skiff 17 for the 20hr service, and told them about the front live well issue, and they said I have prime it, while being on the water, open the valve, with the motor on and go reverse, and should work.
Until you get underway again which will lock it. You should not have to do that
@@CameramanRon exactly
Can't go wrong with a sportsman. Love my 2020 open 212
Awesome!
Man dude I would love to see you guys get a new and bigger boat. We all know what happens offshore with Mr. Landry.... oh and don’t forget to fix the rod holder ha ha on the Meiko
I got that one replaced now
You’d think if mako knows about the bait well is a issue they would recall it or stop producing a flawed boat. Think I’d move on especially if mako not even talking to you. Good luck
Pretty sure we’re way to small for them to worry about lol
You get what you pay for. The Mako is the least expensive boat you can buy for salt water. I almost bought a Mako because of your review. I ended up buying a used Robalo Cayman 206 Bay Boat. Now I'm glad I did not buy a skiff style boat. Let your conscious be your guide ! LOL !
Lol no doubt
If it doesn't work from the factory, they should, By Law, make it right! The design flaw BS is the Corp way of saying, we do not want to spend the $ to make it right.
I agree with that, and I have literally been told that multiple times
You should do what's best for you. If it doesn't fit what you need it for then look at other manufacturers and maybe they have a model that's similar but with the options that you need
Were def looking into it
Go big!!! 47’ Freeman with quad XTOs!!!!!
That may be a little much lol
Cobia boats. I own the 240 and it would definitely accommodate your gear, and the team.
That is what we go out with Brian on only the 296
It all comes down to what is a financially sound decision. Sponsor provided items Vs. Out of pocket expenses
No doubt!
Mako should send out rebates for faulty equipment if their not willing to repair it.
I agree with that!
I had a mako it was all right But I prefer a 21 proline Lots of Space a great inshore offshore boat great boat all around Take it from somebody that would go fishing every week l Love that boat Check them out
I’ll have to give them a look see
Excel and sea ark both make a great boat that would work great for the fishing you guys do
I will have to check them out
Don’t buy a Robalo. Mine gets the job done but if I could do it all again I’d go with a Blazer Bay 2440. They can get in skinny or big water and have plenty of room for storage and fishing. Only downside I’ve seen to them is there’s not one rod holder in the gunwales. Plenty in the top but none on the sides.
Is there room to add them? Just curious.
@@CameramanRon It would be a chore to do it yourself but I don’t see why they wouldn’t be able to do it from the factory if you have one custom built. That shouldn’t be a problem at all. I think I counted 18 holders in the console and the top though. It’s a damn fine boat built right there in Pensacola. I would imagine they are a company y’all have been in contact with though.
Sell it! I've had a 16' Mako for two months and I'm ready to sell due to the lean stability and draft. The beam is too narrow and that causes a serious lean. If there are two people in the boat, both cannot stand on the same side without focus on not falling out of the boat. Another reason I want to sell is the draft. Mako claims the boat drafts in 8" of water, that might be true with an empty hull and no motor. This boat drafts at 16" and trimmed at 14". Boat requires a jack plate to go skinnier and I don't see spending anymore money on a boat with extremely limited storage, small fuel tank, a plastic center console and bait well that doesn't work.
On the other hand, it's a great little boat for one person.
My express is a side console for 6.5 k used w a 60 Yamaha tlra it works just re powerful it 02 that 74 4 stroke would be nice but it’s the same wieght as a 90 so. A 70 hp would be feasible 100 lb lighter It would be nice for a boat to handle chop better then a flat bottom
get you a cuddy cab or bass boat if your looking for boats with storage. ...this aint one of them. i have yet to own a cc that has any kind of great storage.
That mercury engine is one problem every one I had or family had and did service on time. It still had problems and didn't last long but Suzuki motors you do normal service and. They last for years
No motor issues yet.
white knight fiberglass cleaner will get that rust off. Follow directions and use latex gloves when applying.
thanks for the info
You did check where are your plastic lures were right there on the side of your steering wheel area
lol
Have you thought of a Boston whaler I know they're a little pricey
I havnt looked into them yet
You need to take it on a last ride. Road trip it from Florida to California fishing the coast lakes and rivers all the way. And then sell it to me for $1000 because I’m a cool guy.
Lol that sounds like an expensive trip
Lol..Ron the two favorite days of owning a boat..The day you buy it and the day you sale it..
Happy fishing always..
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Thanks George!
Take a look at a 218dlv Carolina skiff, they are nice. I've been in 8ft waves with mine and it handled great (we did get wet tho)
Go with who supports you! Just sold my (2000) 20 ft Key West and moving to Florida and plan to buy another boat and very interested in your choice!
we have heard great things about key west boats
@@CameramanRon yes, owes me nothing. Just selling to upgrade when in Florida.
I say sell it, upgrade to something bigger. Excited for y’all! 👍🏻🇺🇸
Thanks for watching!
New game every time ron or brant say in a minute. Take a shot 🥃
Well no one would make it to the end
Cape Horn is quality and local. I have an Avid aluminum bay but it has too shallow of a v for those breezy days in Pensacola.
I can def see that
For the record, while I did not buy a Mako, I had never HEARD of Mako before you and when I was shopping I started at Mako because of you. In the end, I put off buying a boat for now. But Mako should recognize that they were NOT recognized by many until CMR and Brant got involved.
Appreciate that Paul!
Mako is likely older than you Paul. They maybe had a change like wally world did years ago ?
@@andy6043, there's LOTS of companies older than me (even though that makes them an antique! :)). My point is a Southern Illinois old man who fishes freshwater mostly, I had never heard of them. I'm not sure if too many folks on the coast has ever heard of a Reelfoot lake boat (look it up and get a laugh!). But my point is, if CMR was in Kentucky, and shot videos for a solid year in one of these (it's basically a canoe with a Briggs and Stratton lawnmower engine in it), there would be MANY people who would suddenly know of them.
@@pauljuniordavis I think Mako was mostly an offshore Florida boat in the beginning, I've known of the name for 35+ years. I like Jeff Spira's designs although most folks don't know who he is. He has a lot of designs of self built wood boats that are cheap to build. I'm thinking of using his designs for an Aluminum boat for myself .
For the price of a new Boat you can get a lot more boat by checking preowned out West, Denver or Arizona there are used bay boats in the dessert and most have never even seen salt water
Never thought about that
That's pretty sad for the money that people pay for a boat like that that the manufacturer is basically being negligent! Customer service is far, few and in between nowadays! I'd can Mako man and go with another brand1
It’s just one issue but it’s def been irritating!
@@CameramanRon Still tho..like ya said man...there shouldn't be ANY issues with a new boat.
The Gale Force twins just did a series on shallow and deeper water fishing boats on their channel.
I’ll have to check it out.
@@CameramanRon they are some amazing young ladies. I’m pretty sure they were the youngest females ever to obtain their 50 ton class licenses. The SCOUT 231 XSB they feature as part of their series was awesome.
Now there's a collaboration I'd like to see
Bay Rider Skiff 2460
A lot of the nearshore charter guys here in NC run these.
They are nice.
I think they draft 10" and we have grouper fished offshore in one as well.
That is a wide variety!