Lenses are GENIUS. Saves user time (since they find their result faster) and saves the server computation. It's one of the things that has always confused me about Google-why would I care about having like 200 pages of results?
Every few pages Google serves ads again. They also want to seem impressive through quantity. Even without lenses Kagi only shows a handful of results too.
used Kagi and Assistant for ⅗ of a year. I began getting a tiny bit frustrated with Kagi, but after using Google for 3 minutes (to get to Kagi on a new browser), I hated it and scurried back to Kagi like an animal 😭😭
Please let us know your frustrations Cyrus! We will do everything in our power to make it the best search engine in the world, we take constructive criticism seriously! :)
Heya, I work for Kagi. We are funded entirely by our users, with no corporate investors. We source our results from multiple other search indexes and combine them for the most neutral experience possible, and give you features to boost or block any sources you like or dislike. We don't censor anything, it's entirely up to you.
@Lewisneva if I can run it locally (and because I can read code) I'm happy with that. Open source is amazing and I love it. What scares me is closed source, "free" software.
The only issue I have with Kagi is the usability: a search takes much longer to display results, sometimes 1 seond. And the design requires a lot more mental effort to find what you're looking for (e.g. links are underlined, instead of colored. Images barley never show up in a web search, so it's less visual. There's no fallback description for websites with missing meta tags). There's also a few a11y issues, which I had to find ways around. The contrast of the description text isn't high enough- I need to use an extension just to make it readable. And when tabbing through, I need an extra tab for each of the repeated shield icons, which don't seem to add much value, except clutter. I've also found Kagi not to play nice with certain accessibility tools, which is a real shame for a premium search engine.
Kagi has a built-in custom css feature that can solve almost all of those issues with just a little bit of custom css. No extension needed! (Source: I've been using Kagi with custom css for quite a while now with no complaints.)
@ Yeah, just a shame it can't solve the tab order, fallback descrpiptions, screen reader support, or (most importantly) the slow performance when compared to DuckDuckGo.
@@thislooksfun1while the option for customization is great, I would say many of these are basic accessibility issues that should be included in the first place and the user shouldn't need to even know what css is to fix them. Either way I like the idea and will keep an eye on it
@@AdondeBoy Oh I'm not debating that! I definitely agree that accessibility is important and should be available out-of-the-box. I'm merely pointing out that Kagi at least _has_ a way to work around some issues like that should they arise, while most other search engines don't. Ideally you shouldn't _have_ to use it, but at least you _can_
Sorry you feel that way, but in order for us to be profitable and to keep existing our prices have great reasoning behind them, each time you search it costs us money to serve it to you.
Hey kagi, I would love to try it but its too expensive for me. Would you mind implementing regional pricing based on the average income in each country?
I feel like the only reason Kagi might win is because there not pushing AI down users throats/ sponsored search results. This is cool hope this gets better and more attraction!
exactly, its there IF you want to use it capital 'IF'. it is not enabled by default and is meant for search like you said "I don't want to leave my echo chamber" you are most likely so used to not having options anymore, that you see them as a crime now... maybe... oooooh, i am guessing you are a apple only user.
I mean, 2 years ago, if it's really good and not too expensive with no ads, I'd love to pay for it. Apparently, it's 10$ for unlimited search. Since now I do all my queries through AIs, I don't see the value.
Yeah, I don't think having an easily reachable search limit of 300 queries a month for 5$/m is anywhere close to a justified price (or UX, even). And paying god dang 10$/m for not having a limit is even more absurd.
You should offer it free without sign-in for the first few searches. If you claim it really is better than Google, I am not going to make an account to check...
We used digital enhancements to remove echo and background noise, but yes, it seems to have made it feel artificial. We will correct it in the next video!
If your using Google's pagerank algo the it's just another duck duck go! I still like Google search, much smarter, just ise ad block and Firefox! Don't worry modern Firefox is faster and eats less memory compared to Chrome! Though doesn't support WPA!
Intriguing! I will definitely try it. But I'm sure it can't replace Google Lens, right? Unfortunately until you can also compete with Google Maps, which is probably logistically impossible, we're all still stuck using Google. It can't be a complete search engine without access to the locations around us.
Thanks for giving us a go. We have Kagi Maps and we are soon to be launching new products that will enhance your online experience, so stay tuned for those! Eventually, we will have an array of packages to search from, enabling you to choose how deep you'd like to collaborate with Kagi in your ongoing internet exploration. :)
Lenses are GENIUS. Saves user time (since they find their result faster) and saves the server computation. It's one of the things that has always confused me about Google-why would I care about having like 200 pages of results?
Every few pages Google serves ads again. They also want to seem impressive through quantity.
Even without lenses Kagi only shows a handful of results too.
just use site: filter in search lol
We're glad you are enjoying Lenses! :) We want your time searching to be as small as possible!
used Kagi and Assistant for ⅗ of a year. I began getting a tiny bit frustrated with Kagi, but after using Google for 3 minutes (to get to Kagi on a new browser), I hated it and scurried back to Kagi like an animal 😭😭
Please let us know your frustrations Cyrus! We will do everything in our power to make it the best search engine in the world, we take constructive criticism seriously! :)
Do you censor? How do you guys make money? I’d rather pay for the product than be the product.
Nothing in this world is truly free. I'd like answers to these questions too, before I try it.
Yeah, they charge for their service. They have very transparent pricing actually. And it doesn't seem to show ads. Privacy policy looks clear enough.
Heya, I work for Kagi. We are funded entirely by our users, with no corporate investors. We source our results from multiple other search indexes and combine them for the most neutral experience possible, and give you features to boost or block any sources you like or dislike. We don't censor anything, it's entirely up to you.
@@imtherealslayerwhat about free open source software
@Lewisneva if I can run it locally (and because I can read code) I'm happy with that. Open source is amazing and I love it. What scares me is closed source, "free" software.
Love Kagi! Made searching enjoyable again! Great video explaining the differences and answering questions. Glad to see you making videos!
Thank you!
The only issue I have with Kagi is the usability: a search takes much longer to display results, sometimes 1 seond. And the design requires a lot more mental effort to find what you're looking for (e.g. links are underlined, instead of colored. Images barley never show up in a web search, so it's less visual. There's no fallback description for websites with missing meta tags).
There's also a few a11y issues, which I had to find ways around. The contrast of the description text isn't high enough- I need to use an extension just to make it readable. And when tabbing through, I need an extra tab for each of the repeated shield icons, which don't seem to add much value, except clutter. I've also found Kagi not to play nice with certain accessibility tools, which is a real shame for a premium search engine.
Kagi has a built-in custom css feature that can solve almost all of those issues with just a little bit of custom css. No extension needed! (Source: I've been using Kagi with custom css for quite a while now with no complaints.)
The Kagi documentation on themes also has a selection of user made themes and a CSS code for removing the underlined links.
@ Yeah, just a shame it can't solve the tab order, fallback descrpiptions, screen reader support, or (most importantly) the slow performance when compared to DuckDuckGo.
@@thislooksfun1while the option for customization is great, I would say many of these are basic accessibility issues that should be included in the first place and the user shouldn't need to even know what css is to fix them. Either way I like the idea and will keep an eye on it
@@AdondeBoy Oh I'm not debating that! I definitely agree that accessibility is important and should be available out-of-the-box. I'm merely pointing out that Kagi at least _has_ a way to work around some issues like that should they arise, while most other search engines don't. Ideally you shouldn't _have_ to use it, but at least you _can_
A very well made marketing video!
Thank you!
Only 3k search queries for the annual plan? That's crazy.
+tax lol
We advise going for unlimited, but because our results are so accurate you'll be surpised at how little searches you actually do!
300 searches for 5$ a month is really bad i do more searches in a day
Getting a family plan helps. Unlimited searches for $3/month per person.
10 searches a day for the 5$ plan
Sorry you feel that way, but in order for us to be profitable and to keep existing our prices have great reasoning behind them, each time you search it costs us money to serve it to you.
@@KagiIncto keep existing good luck. I will never pay for a search and will stick with the other free options
if i only had the money.... i remember beta testing kagi in 2021-22 and it was still excellent then. wonder how it's doing now
Oh, hello 👀
i love the mission of kagi and wish i was in a place to actually pay for a search engine right now
Hey kagi, I would love to try it but its too expensive for me. Would you mind implementing regional pricing based on the average income in each country?
I feel like the only reason Kagi might win is because there not pushing AI down users throats/ sponsored search results. This is cool hope this gets better and more attraction!
Well, in theory, lense sounds interesting, but in practice it looks more like "I don't want to leave my echo chamber"button...
exactly, its there IF you want to use it
capital 'IF'.
it is not enabled by default and is meant for search like you said "I don't want to leave my echo chamber"
you are most likely so used to not having options anymore, that you see them as a crime now... maybe...
oooooh, i am guessing you are a apple only user.
Been using Kagi for 7 years now can't recommend enough
How was this one with duckduckgo ? Which one better ?
for ppl who don't know it subscription based search engine!
I mean, 2 years ago, if it's really good and not too expensive with no ads, I'd love to pay for it. Apparently, it's 10$ for unlimited search. Since now I do all my queries through AIs, I don't see the value.
Love it! Would love to work on Kagi!
Is it open source? I'd also love to work on it!
Be sure to keep an eye on our job openings, we are always looking for talented individuals!
This is an awesome short video. I will give it a try!
Thanks!
Cool concept, All the best mate!
Cheers!
are lens like presets?
Its bad to say that Google Ecosystem is now an Ocean.
you guys need a lens and filters marketplace where users can share theirs
I love Kagi 🙏
What are the Kagi plans for its sustainability? As these projects gets behind due to this very reason.
1:35 "discussions from real people". I need no more convincing
Welcome!
No idea how you processed the voice recording on this video, but I find it unlistenable.
Damn aren't you the retro dodo guy. Intresting how you are doing this now. The search enging looks a lot like duck duck go.
Yeah, I don't think having an easily reachable search limit of 300 queries a month for 5$/m is anywhere close to a justified price (or UX, even). And paying god dang 10$/m for not having a limit is even more absurd.
Getting a family plan with 6 people helps. $3/month per person for unlimited searches.
I love kagi!
In terms of privacy, duckduckgo is alot better. Why would I leave it and use kagi?
Any reason u could give
I hope you will find a lot of success, because I can't justify myself to spend 10 usd per month yet, even though your crawler is great
Lense is equivalent of CSE in Google
Wow that sounds so cool but sadly i cant
compare with perplexity
am glad am your early user, do you provide API
They provide an API, and it is included on your billing page.
I would probably be more keen to learn how Kagi competes with DuckDuckGo, since they are in the same niche and free (as in beer)
0:05 seems like you using Google instead :)
that name resembles something very explicit in brazillian portugese :T
Fetch, Lycos!
neato
You should offer it free without sign-in for the first few searches. If you claim it really is better than Google, I am not going to make an account to check...
The first 100 searches are free once you create an account.
Comparison with duckduckgo
The calculus will be different for everyone, but the amount of time Kagi Ultimate saves me at work easily pays for itself.
Thank you! That's one of our main goals!
is it me or narrator has a robo or ai voice?
love kagi btw
It sounds like they are unnecessarily using digital noise reduction on the audio
We used digital enhancements to remove echo and background noise, but yes, it seems to have made it feel artificial. We will correct it in the next video!
If your using Google's pagerank algo the it's just another duck duck go! I still like Google search, much smarter, just ise ad block and Firefox! Don't worry modern Firefox is faster and eats less memory compared to Chrome! Though doesn't support WPA!
Intriguing! I will definitely try it. But I'm sure it can't replace Google Lens, right?
Unfortunately until you can also compete with Google Maps, which is probably logistically impossible, we're all still stuck using Google. It can't be a complete search engine without access to the locations around us.
Thanks for giving us a go. We have Kagi Maps and we are soon to be launching new products that will enhance your online experience, so stay tuned for those! Eventually, we will have an array of packages to search from, enabling you to choose how deep you'd like to collaborate with Kagi in your ongoing internet exploration. :)
Just use DDG
Perplexity...
nah. i'll stick to google