MIKE RUTHERFORD UNFILTERED: GENESIS GUITARIST/COMPOSER IN CONVERSATION. Now Revised

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  • #genesis #philcollins #mikerutherford #tonybanks #petergabriel
    MIKE RUTHERFORD, the GENESIS co-founder, composer and guitarist , talks to Director John Edginton in this now revised 2014 interview.
    Filmed in the theatre prior to a performance by his band MIKE AND THE MECHANICS.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 39

  • @georgelewis2775
    @georgelewis2775 18 днів тому +7

    Mike is such a talented and humble human being!

  • @WintersWar
    @WintersWar 24 дні тому +17

    Rutherford's humbleness is awesome. How can one band have so many nice men that were a part of Genesis. Very exceptional.

    • @quaid667
      @quaid667 24 дні тому +9

      It was all about the music and less about ego.

    • @tdom2957
      @tdom2957 17 днів тому +2

      Totally agree! Little to no swearing, kept their privacy to themselves even after hitting the big time, I'm had the honor of meeting them a couple times for the Lamb in 74 &75 in Chicago, the 74 show was their first show of the tour after cancelling the UK tour due to Steve's left hand injury and the album wasn't even out yet lol! Nobody knew what we were hearing but it still sounded awesome! The Feb show sounded better to us because we all ran out and got the double album and memorized all the songs, more casual Genesis fans preferred the sides 1 & 2 because of the title track and Back In NYC while the darker mood preferred sides 3 & 4 with the Waiting Room and The Lamia.

    • @davidjenkinson2644
      @davidjenkinson2644 16 днів тому +1

      Yes humble and good spirited, honest,, they did argue and had thier fair share, usually between banks and Peter G, Tony was somtimes capable of storming off, Tony did this on phils first practise, it's unclear why Pete and Tony were the best of friends and the worst of enemies

  • @isabelledrevet5913
    @isabelledrevet5913 12 днів тому +2

    I love all his bass lines of the 70’s area ❤

  • @johnv8646
    @johnv8646 17 днів тому +2

    Mike is so funny. There's something about him that is just so mellow, forthcoming and polite. It's like if some sweet librarian were a rock musician. Love the guy.

  • @Wayner71
    @Wayner71 24 дні тому +9

    I love these Genesis interviews. They are relaxational for me. Cheers.

  • @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES
    @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES  24 дні тому +4

    **If you love this interview PLEASE CONSIDER HITTING THE "$ SUPERTHANKS $" button !
    (It's under the video. ) Any small donation helps with my work - retrieving, editing & uploading
    my unique and original content. Thank you for your support ! John **

  • @monahondo
    @monahondo 17 днів тому +1

    Fantastic interview!

  • @paulchoccyt1303
    @paulchoccyt1303 24 дні тому +3

    Thank you John

  • @abundantYOUniverse
    @abundantYOUniverse 24 дні тому +3

    Fantastic thank you very much!

  • @396Cap
    @396Cap 14 днів тому

    Thanks John. Great questions. Great answers.

  • @trebsscan9644
    @trebsscan9644 21 день тому +3

    There are 10 questions there....hahahahha like it... he dont mind being interviewed....he has done so many....he will keep doing many more...as will the other 4....

  • @jornfox3545
    @jornfox3545 День тому +1

    I think the Revelation album is far from a failure, it's a wonderful album to say the least. Great interview.

  • @douglassmith5037
    @douglassmith5037 23 дні тому +2

    Thanks for updating, John, Mike is the most difficult member to interview, as his boundaries seldom come down. And it would obviously kill him to give Steve too much credit, lol. Thanks for persevering with him though; although it seemed he didn't want to be there, he gave some great insights into how he writes songs here.

  • @flyonthewindshield3653
    @flyonthewindshield3653 24 дні тому +3

    Is this recent? My favorite bassist ever. This has to be old. "Get em out by Friday" Good Lord.

  • @aminahmed2220
    @aminahmed2220 24 дні тому

    What a fantastic video have a wonderful weekend John ❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊 also Canada day is Monday

  • @snacklofter
    @snacklofter 24 дні тому +3

    15:29 Mike's Pickettywitch moment!👍👍

    • @jonnykhatru
      @jonnykhatru 24 дні тому +2

      Mike Rutherford Presents Pickettywitch 😂

  • @philipbunney9445
    @philipbunney9445 24 дні тому +2

    The more I think about it, Mike R is an incredible songwriter/musician with such variety. He could go heavy (Squonk- Man of our Times) he could be romantic (Harlequin - More fool me - Alone Tonight) & he could be pop (The Mechanics).

    • @mikearchibald744
      @mikearchibald744 23 дні тому +2

      The fact that Anthony Phillips says he "became a good bass player overnight" pretty much says it all. In early days he used to play CELLO onstage. So yeah, no question about that. I dont think 'pop' is a real compliment, I don't buy his argument that long songs are easier, in fact there are entire interview years about the five of them and how HARD it often was.
      Its almost cheesy in hindsight "all I need is a miracle" wait for it, wait for it, here it is "all I neeeeed is YOU". Oh man is that cliche. But then "in your eyes, I am complete" is cheesy as well. In comedy funny is money, in music cheese is money. Thats not being THAT derogatory, wasn't it Paul McCartney that wrote "fill the world with pretty love songs, whats wrong with that?" The commercial aspect is best summed up by Blues Traveller, with their ironic hit "Hook". The video pretty much says it all.
      Bass players and rhythm guys always get sort of overlooked, as the joke goes, he's the second most popular person in the band named after him. Second to the constantly changing singers:)
      But I do have to say once you start looking you find a LOT of brilliant musicians, but he does get overlooked because of the other members in the band. Although I don't think he's been TOO hard done by:) But its worth pointing out, they say rhythm guitarists are hard to find, sorry GOOD ones, they say good bass players are hard to find. Ironically I think his best and most innovative stuff is on Trespass. You listen to some of those instrumentals and you can just hear him saying "I'm in this goddam band too" with the bass. But I'd ask anybody to name somebody in a band who was bass guitarist, rhythm guitarist AND lead guitarist. As Darryl says, he's not technically brilliant, but the stuff he comes up with is stuff nobody else could come up with. And audiences are not all musicians looking for technical brilliance. In fact the MORE people talk about that the more I tend to veer to their later stuff. Sitting in a room playing for eight hours until you have a certain level of proficience is not something I think we should be encouraging. Learning to express yourself musically is, and these guys certainly did that.

  • @eyetalic
    @eyetalic 24 дні тому +7

    I talked to a guy last night who saw the Lamb tour. It still sticks in his head as one of the best shows he ever saw. For later fans who got into old Genesis, even the fans who saw that tour are legendary, reporters who can tell what it was like.

    • @ElfinMan
      @ElfinMan 24 дні тому +5

      Saw them on the Selling England tour and the Lamb. I will say, the Selling England show was hands down better than the Lamb. By the time of the Lamb tour, something had gone awry. Peter obviously didn't want to be there.

    • @johnv8646
      @johnv8646 17 днів тому

      @@ElfinMan I know what you mean.. there's one of their shows filmed from 1971-1973 floating around and it's absolutely wacky compare to the lamb

  • @mikearchibald744
    @mikearchibald744 23 дні тому +3

    To be fair I kind of hate the drums on Home by the Sea too. if its NOT a drum machine it might as well be, and it really ruins what is an excellent song otherwise. Great lyrics, great singing, great atmosphere, great chords, and then its like "well, just switch on the drum machine and see what it does 'boom, da boom boom', well, thats good enough." And in a band that has Phil Collins its almost like saying to the audience "this is phil collins, one of the greatest rock drummers of our time.....but he's taking a dump so we'll switch on the new 'drum o matic 5000, thats good enough for you lot". For a casual listener the drums at first sound cool in that 'manufactured' sense, but then you realize unlike Cinema Show, there's a whole other world just for the percussion.

    • @stephanlandshuter5237
      @stephanlandshuter5237 23 дні тому

      You probably refer to the 2nd part of Home By The Sea and the use of Simmons Drums. Do you know the live version? It's way better than the rather sterile studio version.

    • @mikearchibald744
      @mikearchibald744 23 дні тому

      @@stephanlandshuter5237 Well, that would probably go without saying, but yeah, thats exactly what I mean. And sterile is probably exactly the word I'd use. But thats true, Genesis always talks about live, but I've never seen them live and only go by the albums.

  • @DemokratiedesProletariats
    @DemokratiedesProletariats День тому

    Without Peter and Steve, Genesis is just a pop band.

    • @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES
      @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES  День тому

      Don’t just state your opinion. Make your case as you seem to feel that so strongly

    • @DemokratiedesProletariats
      @DemokratiedesProletariats День тому

      @@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Which arguments do you accept? It's enough to listen to the Genesis records before and after 1976 and compare them with each other and with Peter's and Steve's solo albums. And hey, it's totally okay to make pop music to pay your bills. Prog rock has never and never will appeal to a mainstream audience.

    • @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES
      @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES  День тому

      Peter went on to write pop songs . He left prog rock behind.

    • @DemokratiedesProletariats
      @DemokratiedesProletariats День тому

      @@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Peter Gabriel is an artist in a special sense, who was never satisfied with the conventional and yet combines sophistication and mainstream like hardly anyone else.