Was CHARLES HAMILTON "Punched" Out The Game? What Stunted His Growth?
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- Charles Hamilton was right there with Kendrick Lamar and had the same opportunity or better to have a similar career. Kendrick Lamar blew up and became the best rapper in the game at one point, while Charles Hamilton went the complete opposite direction. He got into a battle with a female he was in relationship with and exposed secrets she wasn't cool with at the time. It led to her punching him on camera and that started his downfall. He began to get in more on camera situations that caused him to be clowned and that was basically his undoing. Was CHARLES HAMILTON "Punched" Out The Game?
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Charles & Lupe were the main ones I wanted to see win so badly in the mid to late 2000s. Charles had so much potential
Agreed 😎
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Damn that's my awkward teen years in a single comment
Lupe still has a chance, he's about to drop skulls, I think that will bring him back a bit
@@screamingeagle11b I meant mainstream wise at the time. I wanted the nonbelievers, the media & etc to look at him as the best rapper alive like how they were looking at Wayne, Ye & T.I. In the mid 2000s.
Charles Hamilton changed my life. First heard of him in 2009, listened to him a tiny bit i 2010 - 2011, finally got into him in 2013, fell in love with his music ever since and still listen to him to this very day. I hope I meet him in this lifetime, because he truly is my hero.
Check out his song “Riot Gear”
Gtfoh no way
Charles Hamilton was a lifestyle OMGGG. I miss the backpack era of hip hop tbh
Me too, actually. So much. I didn't realize it was as lit as it was. I was kinda sleep. But I followed Charles heavily back then, up until the point he dropped his album, which was right when he disappeared and was being ubiquitously lambasted.
@@khartoumlavage4253 exactly. I miss this era of hip hop. Lupe fiasco, common, kanye west, wale, kid cudi, mos def, q-tip etc. 10 to 15 years ago. Hop hop was on a good wave.
This was more of the blog era but I get what you’re saying. I miss it too…honestly a lot of those artists were mismanaged
I remember watching that K Dot and Hamilton video thinking, this guy can never touch Hamilton. K Dot wil! disappear. And, here we are. Life's a trip. [×]
Proof that humans don’t know, they think.
@@aghostnamedjimmy Yeap
hes still better than kendrick imo. he had other issues holding him from reaching that next level. but as is i still listen to him far more than kendrick.
@@thebest12700 yea I don’t even listen to Kendrick really. But I always go back to Hamilton’s old tapes!
@@thebest12700 you bugging
Papoose would be a great stunted growth topic. The industry refused to let him release The Narcirema Dream under his terms.
Papoose fucked up by signing to jive. He got a lot of money but it kept him from releasing a crazy album that he had finished at that time. And he never bounced back and got his buzz back after leaving them. It took him 10 years or more to drop that Album and it was a completely different album by then
@@tauriancarter8360 I agree 100%. Not to mention all the shit with Remy he was more focused on that too.
Papoose wouldn't sell out like those other rappers,he didn't talk about nonsense
I disagree. Pap is mixtape legend.
Definitely a stunted growth
Kendrick had topdawg
Drake had Wayne
J Cole had Hov
Who did Charles have?
Jimmy lovine 😂
It's arguably a good one. Good enough for Olivia rodrigo, but Mac didn't have a cosign. Neither did Tyler thats kinda moot tho@kdotfromminnesota1674
His off top bars in the barbershop were CRAZY tho...
...and there was MAD beef in Harlem at the time. Shouts to F.A.U. (#PiffNAm3n).
SEGA Forever.
#TheRizeOnHarlem
-TTMH
[#Jr.]
Charles is my dude for life. The true definition of "looks can be decieving". Dude could sample anything like the old Kanye and made songs in a style that showed his vulnerabillities as a man yet savage like a bully roasting your whole fit. Imo he was in that Drake, Cudi, 808 and heartbreak lane before that potential was met by the Uzi Vert's and Juice Wrlds of today.
True. And also XXXTentacion.
a shame we never seem him reach his full potential. but he still made a ton of great music to enjoy
Smh this was my guy. I remember i seen him in 2015 on 125th street and i was on l like oh snap, i could take a pic wit u? He was like na man not right now. He was looking down and out. Prayers up.
I hope he gets it together. Prayers definitely up
Charles Hamilton was his own worst enemy: Beefing with his own labelmates, made up stories about how he was friends with J-Dilla and his mother, not taking his mental health seriously, got arrested for punching a cop, not letting Interscope manage the vast amount of music he had, etc.
Man I always remember that Serious Jonez battle in the barbershop. "Not going back and forth, cut it off, go up to the roof and pull out the ratchet and let it off" always had me in tears lol
If you've seen the Red Bull documentary they did on him back in like 2015/16, it's a pretty good watch. He links back up with a bunch of his old friends that appeared on his tracks back in the day, but there's a real low point in the doc where he goes on a cruise ship with his mother and she suddenly passes away while they're on the cruise. That part really made me sympathize with him, like I could just feel how alone and empty he must've felt at the time.
It's a bummer his debut album release and that single from Empire didn't quite re-spark his career.
He was ahead of his time and that mental breakdown hurt him as well I would love to see him come back around cause I was a fan of his
I’m glad someone had the wherewithal to do a deep ride into Charles Hamilton...a GREAT lyricist, brilliant mind & revolutionary musical being that just got in his way WAY TOO MANY TIMES. But deserves his flowers ✌🏾🌙
A big issue with Charles was he had too much drama. Everytime he was in the news, it wasn't about the music, just trouble he got into.
He actually got a second record deal in 2015 with Republic. He was doing good with his second round but he wasn't a priority on the label. His album came out the same week as labelmate Post Malone and... I'm sure you can guess who's getting pushed more. But for the most part, yeah... it was too little, too late.
The guy was supposed to be next up coming out of Spanish Harlem he was supposed to be where Kendrick Lamar is now he once had a legendary cypher with K-dot.
This is the footage right?
im starting to think kendrick was planted there by interscope. they were both on the same label at the time... this freestyle wasnt “impromptu”, or by coincidence...
Didn't know he was from Harlem, now I see how he linked wit Max B at the time.
You gotta do Max B next fam 🌊
Love this channel and your b-ball channel keep up the good work
Stunt #1, 2, and 3: BARS
*PRISON BARS*
I love CHarles Hamilton, his music saved my life. I’ll always say he’s the best rapper alive as long as he’s still breathing.
I completely second that. I was lucky enough to meet him and hang out after a show (he killed of course). He was on piano singing and produced two full songs! Show tufli was there too I think. In Manhattan. Ahhh the days
He's dope for sure but he's not touching lupe
Godbless bro big love never quit 🙏🏿
@@screamingeagle11b he doesn’t have to. Charles was great at what he does. And could do more than just rap
@@tauriancarter8360 so much more lol
The biggest issue with him was his mental health issues. I'm not belittling or dismissing what he went through, but that's what really stunted his growth.
Thank you for this one you gave a pretty fair assessment.. the one piece of information I would add is that Charles Hamilton rarely did features that would benefit his popularity mainstream wise. I think he was even mentored by Pharrell during his Interscope tenure.
Alongside Cudi he planted seeds for rappers to get more melodic, alternative and express vulnerabilities. We can hear the Charles Hamilton influence in artist like Earl Sweatshirt, Tory Lanez and Steve Lacy.
This is the streaming era. Charles just needs a hit.... he could make a comeback if his heart is still in it.
He's only 33. Still young.
I can't watch this one it hurts too much 😂 this was my guy
I’m saying man, real tears came up man. Him and max b is sad stories man sad sad
+Thot_Juice_Papi Same to me.
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@@NewRhinoTV Max supposed to be free. Something up with that. I think French and Jimmy up to something. I don't rock with it. That's my blood cousin in there. Jersey gotta free that man now. His birthday already passed and this is his appealed release year. So confused.
I was actually somewhat cool with him for a little during what people claim is his downfall. He's an amazing and humble dude but he definitely was battling depression in a sense during those times and I believe lashing out at some of his fans also stunted his growth. I literally watched him spazz on people for reasons unknown other than he was really down and out and those people weren't doing much but praising his talents while giving little opinionated thoughts not to come off rude. Still wish dude the best but i haven't spoken to him in like 10 years
Yea I realized that he can just snap on people. Funny because Kanye is the same way, but I guess Kanye comes with that heat so people are willing to tolerate it
Do Asher Roth!! He TPP was on that XXL 09 freshmen class and died for the Harlows and Miller's to live
Asher roth was dope. Common knowledge & Be by myself were good songs by roth. I saw him in concert back in 2012. Enjoyed the concert
He was just on Drink Champs
I felt like this should of been episode 1 of this series but Sonic definitely needs the attention. He been trying and keep falling every time. I cry for Charles. It's so much potential that just didn't get the help he needed or he just didn't want it.
*should have*
.bruh serius jones casually reclined in a barber's chair while BODYING Charles is still etched in my brain from my childhood
nobody knows who serius jones is outside of his association with CH. LOL. Who?
BRO This came out sooo fire thanks again for doing this and the shoutout!!! Hope you all enjoy this video I suggested 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
It's always good to hear Charles Hamilton being talked about still, I must say this is pretty good journalism and even better to see that a good amount of recent footage and pictures were included in this video. His mental health should've been touched on as well as his amount of music that's been released and still continues to be released for the older fans who have been out of sync with his content. It should be known that Charles still puts out an amazing amount of music to this day, he's still someone you could come in contact with online as well. The man has over 400 albums/EPs online and a good amount of Instrumental tapes too.
CANIBUS!!! PLEASE CAN WE GET A CANIBUS?!
Agreed.
I agree 100%. The underrated Goat!
That 09 class was something special I was so excited for Hip Hop at the time and Charles is one of the best off the dome freestyle rappers I’ve ever heard
His downfall is really just a product of how dumb people are.
So inconsiderate get educated on mental health, please 🙏🏾
I'm a huge fan of Charles. I really wish he blew up. I still listen to the pink lavalamp til this day. Great work StuntedGrowth!
Tpl is amazing. It should’ve been allowed to be his debut smh
@@JackSparrow-ji9wn I agree. I feel it would’ve down very well with a mainstream release. It’s his strongest body of work tbh.
Pink Lavaplamp is a classic tape ‼️🔥🔥🔥
I will always love Charles man, dude made my high-school days so much better, him and Lloyd Banks are 2 of my faves of all time. I relate to Charles like crazy, his music spoke to me like no other...ppl may call him unsuccessful but I call him a hero and a legend forever. Starchaser for life!
Should do a stunted growth on Bubba sparkxx
This was a good one wondered what happen to him..
Won't mind one on
Cool kids / Michael Rocks
Mickey factz / vic mensa 👀
I was just boutta comment bout the cool kids. Vic Mensa had a real interesting fall off. Shit got real weird for him after U Mad
@@JordanIsaac1 yup facts @ U mad
Yea the cool kids would be good, that bake sale album came out, I was in 9th grade... those was good times plus lupe’s the cool album was fire too
@@hawksfan1508 💯 dope album highly underrated tbh
For me,
Talib Kweli - he stayed on the verge of stardom while Mos Def, Black Thought and Common got over.
Pharoahe Monch - that lawsuit over Simon Says derailed his chance at getting over the top.
Been waiting on this. Charles Hamilton was next up. I think it's deeper than we know and by deeper; I mean industry stuff.
He had that blog site and exposed a lot of stuff. About j.cole and Eminem
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@@thatguybsmith what did he expose?
@@thatguybsmith what did he say?
@@thatguybsmith Facts I want to know cuz Cole is my fav rapper. Ppl used to say he was a sell out but Cole been in his own lane 👊🏾👊🏾
Brooklyn Girl by him is still my top joint!!
Who else you know with a Lacey DuValle cameo? 😆
@@301.allday lol
@@301.allday lol factsss
@@301.allday oh boy was tonguing a porn star and he suppose to been a rapper on camera her being bad or not dont matter that mightve been his career
@@ShyCashualI remember him getting clowned for kissing Lacy in the mouth in that video.
I’m an uptown boy with so-ho flavor but ain’t nothing like them Brooklyn girls
He went from battling Kendrick Lamar to not doing nothing. That is wild.
I remember that video when shorty rocked him that was one of the early viral moments lol. I felt like he had potential back then it just wasn't in the cards.
Out of all the episodes so far, this one hurt the most for me to watch. I had and still have high hopes for him
I remember when I found that was Kendrick Lamar in that Charles Hamilton birthday video that I watched all the way back in 08-09. I was shook. Crazy how the world works.
You should do "Chris n' Neaf"! Jay-z said it himself, that Young chris was his protege and next up! So how does someone who is personally being groomed by Jay-z himself fail???
Never heard of bleek ? 😂
Who exactly blew up being backed by Jay other than Beyonce? Jay used those Roc artists to give him street cred & soaked up their talent
@@354allday Rocafella is what OVO is now..Label made just to absorb and dissolve talent.
Jay got jealous of young Chris bcuz he was smashin RiRi
@StanLi Atlantis jay took Chris style??? Chris took jays whole style swag etc chris wanted to be baby hova hard body
Man, 08-2012 where some of the best years of my life;musically. CH was a big part of that.
Charles is an unsung hero of hip hop ahead of his time without a doubt
The pink lava lamp
Well isn't this akward
My brain is alive
Intervention
Are better albums than your favorite rapper
Intervention is my favorite from Chuck. 💯
The intro is too long bro.
Crooked i, Pill, Blue (from that same XXL cover with Charles Hamilton), Corey Gunz, Hurricane Chris, Trinidad James (musically stunted growth), Kirko Bangs, Yelawolf, Joel Ortiz
Let's talk about how casually we discuss him getting assaulted on TV. If the genders were reversed.....
Another stunt was CH claiming his first album was going to be a box set of all the material he had released to that point. Interscope was like, that ain't happening lol.
Seriously, whose first album is a box set?! 😂
20 min video and 15 mins in you BARELY getting to the second issue 🤦🏿♂️ do the research, break the videos into "skipable" chapters and make the into shorter, good job tho 👏🏿 I'm subbed
I feel like this could be his official time
Pains me how they laugh when hes freestyling. He had skill fr and some didnt care
One of my favorites back in the day. He was a lyrical genius. I hope he is doing better. He's been through a lot.
Also, did you not know he battles depression? He looks like he does, and apparently he inherited that from his mother. A lot of artists go through bouts of depression (especially if their promotion sucks and/or sales aren't high), and explains why they don't produce more music for commerce/blow up. They also go a long time between album/song releases. For example, eLZhi....
Or Kid Cudi.
Brooklyn Girls and Pink Lavalamp STILL gets played round these parts.
I feel like he could of have a Mac Miller or Joey Bada$$ type of career. Not a superstar but a steady artist with a loyal fanbase
His era was the reason I got hooked on hip hop and even picked up a pen to start writing
Do bump j from chicago next
That's a good 1 bro! Here in the chi we rocked with Bump heavy.. used to get his music exclusively from him personally bc my cousins grew up with him! He blew his million dollar contract, robbed a bank, got caught, & went to the feds joint! That Goon Squad sht killed his career honestly.. here in the chi we have no studios! U gotta leave Illinois altogether to get signed & he could even do a show here nowhere bc everywhere they hollered Good Squad, the clubs were like, no! Tearin the club up ain't somethin club owners go crazy for!
@@thesolutiondude793 I heard he passed away that true chi town stand ☝ representing the north side over here
We need a Astro(Stro) stunted growth next!
facts. I remember listening to ‘yes I know my g’ way back
@@JordanIsaac1 Stop looking at my mom
The first chance the rapper! Shout out to their style type rappers.
I miss this era of rap forreal
Charles Hamilton the Lenny Cooke of Rap
Respect 😎
I wonder how he feel watching Kendrick's growth. I never knew they had that freestyle thass dope
Damn I almost wanna cry this man was ahead of his time very talented artist
Damn lol I was hoping it was my request comment from a few videos ago that got you to make this video. Nonetheless, thanks for doing this. I’m from Harlem myself and he was my pick from that 2009 class. He’s dealt with a lot in life that people don’t know about. Many things can lead to your growth being stunted...
If you can do a video on slum village or little brother the group. We need that.
Or the Clipse and how they had to wait 4 years to finally follow up on their commercial breakthrough Lord Willin' which killed their momentum.
Slum Village for SURE!!! 🙏🏾
dont diss the gods.
I remember first hearing Charles on All City Chess Club’s ‘We Beamin’ remix. He did his thang
he's ahead off his time like a motherfucker and a true artistic genius. he possibly could blow up after our time because his body of work is really something else
Every Charles Hamilton ex girl friend worst nightmare project still bangs and is one of my favorite mixtapes of all time ...that’s where it stops for me tho
Mentioning that freestyle where he got punched jogged my memory. Good video
The way he dressed was wild
Charles Hamilton “Lacey Duvalle” if you know you know lol
There simply isn’t room for originality in mainstream rap music anymore…That will end up being Hip-Hop music’s complete undoing…
Never heard of him until this video. Will check him out because of the video and check out the lady who punched him. Saw her pictures online before and never knew she was famous, much less Mary J Blige’s stepdaughter. Hell she looks like Mary, maybe that’s her real daughter.
Yooooo! I forgot she was related to Mary! Hadn't thought about that incident in years.
Do a What stunned Mickey Factz growth?
He isn’t believable as a talent. Good wordsmith tho
u actually cud do serious jones too.. he had a deal wit luda and DTP at 1 time
Dude you on 🔥 all the rappers I been wondering, you’ve covered. Hope you do Tech9, Hopsin or D12
The k dot freestyle is crazy to this day on so many levels most notably they were both signed to interscope
In my opinion cuz I was a big fan, i don’t think him being clowned was really the downfall. It was a project he had where he put J Dilla as the producer or executive producer & dilla’s fans & family were heated by that cuz i believe he didn’t reach out to them first. So that with getting punched led to him getting dropped from interscope
He was channeling Dilla. Some dark shit going on
@@thatguybsmith right. He was really tryna pay homage but i wish he did it differently
i jus commented that was the last i heard he did that project over dilla beats wit no permission and it was a big problem
He tried to reach out to J dealers family and his manager was supposed to do it so it really was a major issue
@@flygenyus2186 no bro. He literally summoned dilla.
Hold on, that was Mary J Blige step daughter that snuffed him?
Please do a Serius Jones story, that would be 🔥
KDot stunted his growth. Nah, but CH was dope he was the first Tyler The Creator.
He got signed during a time when Backpack rap was fizzling out. I thought if anything he didn't make it in rap he'd still have a place in Hip Hop as a super producer. But a lot of things kept him from reaching his true potential. From mental issues to ego. I hope he gets back to his former glory. We saw a glimpse of that when he came back with New York Raining. But since then he's not really been the same.
This was like a time capsule to junior and senior year for me. 2008, 2009 feelings.
YOU missed so much which u also missed the nail in his coffin..The female punching him is not what took he down it was a series of lies he told..With beat stealing saying he made those beats when in fact he stole them from black spade.he felt like spade wasn't a big enough artist so he took them and said he had a ouja board and summoned J-DILLA..Which hurt j-dilla's mom so bad it made the ENTIRE INDUSTRY hate him for what he did to j-dillas name.Go back and look at a houseshoes interview where he threatened hamilton bodly harm..
Yup. That, plus the blog where he said Eminem f***** him, and the J.Cole slander. Saying J.Cole was born from a man.
This guys needs to stick to sports all of these rap videos have been terribly misleading and he thinks he’s an expert on this shit lmao
That was the longest I’ve ever seen stunted growth let it run before stepping in.. shows where Charles fell from freal
We need one on Papoose 💯❗️
You next video should be Souls of mischief
Ashee Roth too. Pabst and Jazz was great
3:50 somethin’ bout this moment is giving me “I’m da best, man. I deed it” vibes
She killed his baby he can diss her if he wants
It was an innocence to he rap that I craved! I felt he could have been that one that could put a pull in a cookie and the masses would eat! Sad we're vain! Best Regards to dude!
“NY Raining” Ft. Rita Ora Is Still 🔥🔥🔥
Wasn’t she faced with a ASAP scandal at that time?
do lil flip next
When I was in high school There was a new CH mixtape dropping literally every week. I was a huge fan back in the day.
Chucky had a new tape or EP on Nah Right every damn day lol.
I think Charles had a lot of mental health issues. As a kid I laughed at him but looking back I feel bad for what happened to him
If he came out today.. lord! Ahead of his time
It's crazy because everything he was clowned for in 2009 is dam near normal in rap today ( emo goth style , wearing pink or video game character clothing, emotional music, taking drugs , streaming etc )
You let the openings go on waaaay too long bro.
Damn... I hope he completely erased that chick from his life. Woe unto any dude foolish enough to impregnate her- that broad has a lifetime of problems written all over her.