When Can The Prospect Say No to the Motorcycle Club

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  • When is it permissible for the prospect to tell the motorcycle club, "No!"? Black Dragon will explore this very question on this video.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 126

  • @carrolllyons8450
    @carrolllyons8450 6 років тому +5

    In our club a prospective is never expected to do anything that we the full patch would not do! A prospect is only as good as the club teaches them to be! Some men are better at sacrificing themselves to achieve and prove they will be a good brother that contributes to the family. In our club our prospects are treated with respect above all, our prospects are given a club sponsor who is responsible to show them our way of conducting themselves. The club patch should not make the man, the man should make the patch! Hard to get, harder to keep! ML&R Black Dragon!

  • @R3N1R3N
    @R3N1R3N 7 років тому +7

    Amen my brother, the right group of people closest to you should help build you up not belittle you or put you down.

  • @junet1786
    @junet1786 8 років тому +4

    thank you for the great info. and thank you for clarifying what the priorities should be in a 99% club.

  • @d12zrk
    @d12zrk 7 років тому +3

    Your video's are awesome! I'm literally binge watching all your video's:)

  • @WickedPissa85
    @WickedPissa85 Місяць тому

    Thats exactly what a diamond member said to me before I started the process. Youre a man first, dont let anyone disrespect you. Doesnt matter if they have a patch or not.

  • @colsparky651
    @colsparky651 8 років тому +1

    Absolutely common sense and very fair. this guy talks total sense. Thankyou Black Dragon for your video

  • @jorgemartbeck7617
    @jorgemartbeck7617 7 років тому +2

    Your words are from a wise man. Completely agree ... God, Family, Work, Mc God bless you Black Dragon

  • @brianbland34
    @brianbland34 8 років тому +1

    Great information!! Learned a lot. Thanks

  • @captnemomodelingzone7850
    @captnemomodelingzone7850 6 років тому +2

    You are right on it again. I was prospect for a MM and the president was getting off making me do dumb stuff like what you are talking about. I did not Continue with that MM. thank you again have a great weekend

  • @digitaldogs233
    @digitaldogs233 8 років тому +2

    I'm not in a club but have always thought them a fascinating sub culture, I like custom bikes and as a kid read a mag called BACK STREET HERO'S, been noticing a lot of MC vlogers and personally think it's a very cool thing, mainly becouse of misinformation in media, especially HISTORY CHANNEL, they never have a good thing to say about club's..damn they even title there stuff as (for example) "the most dangerous "gang"..there not a gang so I would guess that's abit of an insult right there. never heard of a 99% club, so that's an eye opener. very cool vlog BLACK DRAGON very informative as a none mc member yet like the whole brotherhood and honore aspect. really like your MC take on prospecting real respecting a human for a human..yer deff a new sub coz some do talk about the prospect thing being club first,. Never seen a guy say other wise. you guys seem a very cool respectful CLUB..H&R from UK. ps I believe in God and for sure God comes befour all..I'm not too much into organised religion but had an experence so that just stands. cool fella ride safe..☺👍

  • @eliter5150
    @eliter5150 6 років тому +2

    Awesome videos man! I don't even own a bike, but I plan on getting a bike one day. I'll probably never join an MC club, but your videos are always informative. From what I have gleaned 99%ers have to answer to 1%ers. E.G Getting blessings, or having to deal with them as the dominant club. Why is that? I get that most people do not want to get involved with a dispute with them. Is it fear or is it just not worth dealing with?

  • @bishop1243
    @bishop1243 8 років тому +1

    BE awesome stuff stay up be encouraged. keep pounding

  • @tony180a
    @tony180a 8 років тому +1

    Thanks, great video!

  • @tommartin1223
    @tommartin1223 8 років тому +3

    I really like listening to you. you have so much grounding and real knowledge. thank you!

  • @twoleggedterror4482
    @twoleggedterror4482 7 років тому +1

    What's happening Big John! Hope you are doing extremely well!

  • @MHLivestreams
    @MHLivestreams 7 років тому +3

    Everyone should do what they want, and have fun. Just be respectful, and everything is cool.

  • @2bstiff584
    @2bstiff584 2 роки тому +2

    this is a rule 20 years ago I hope its a rule still you can not be told to do something if the person telling you to do it will not do it himself so if they know you got work they should know you have to bail out early to make it to work and not be dead tired

  • @christophermercer8290
    @christophermercer8290 6 років тому

    Mr black Dragon sir I love this channel and u if I were to prospect and had a chapter in New Hampshire i would

  • @rebkong
    @rebkong 7 років тому +3

    RESPECT THE BLACK DRAGON THE INTELLIGENT AND THE REAL

  • @SpiderRiderMC
    @SpiderRiderMC 8 років тому +7

    Great video BD but I need to clarify something from a 1% perspective with 36 years under his belt and holding a VP patch, my club will never ask/tell a prospect/probate to do something we haven't done ourselves or willing to do ourselves. Next this matter of us making our living around the club, that is complete fabrication as the majority of 1% Brothers on my side of the pond hold down day jobs, the person that I see here making money from our lifestyle is yourself with your books about our world, I've never used our world to make money from it like yourself. When is it OK for a prospect/probate to say NO, the club should never put that person in a position where they feel they need to say NO, if they say NO to doing the petty day to day mundane stuff we fuck them off quick sharp.

    • @BlackDragonNationalPresident
      @BlackDragonNationalPresident  8 років тому +6

      Dear Spider Rider, I appreciate your comments and thank you for watching and taking the time to write.
      1. I try NEVER to speak on the 1%er side of the tracks as I have zero knowledge as to how you brothers live your lives as I've never been a member of a 1%er MC brotherhood. I'll reexamine my video and if I have inadvertently crossed those tracks I'll remake the video or edit out any areas of concern. One simply cannot speak intelligently about something that he doesn't know, though sometimes one can stray and if I've done that I apologize.
      2. In the beginning of Prospect's Bible and every other book I've ever written I start each book with a statement much like this: "1%er Nation Prospects and Hang-Arounds - I don't claim to have any knowledge about the way 1%er nations handle their Prospects and hang-arounds. The inner working of that world are foreign to me. Where similarities may exist to traditional 99%er MCs, perhaps this book may be of some small use to you. Love, honor, loyalty and respect are common values any MC looks for in a Prospect. Think of others before you think of yourself, concern yourself with accomplishing the best interests of the MC at all times, and present yourself as an open book containing all of the very best qualities you would expect to receive and you will be fine. Go with God and ride safely. Be Blessed and above all be yourself." I even take it one step further by including another paragraph stating "This book was written to teach you how to have success primarily in prospecting for traditional 99%er MC nations because that is where my experience in the MC world has been over the past 27 years.
      3. I make no apologies that my books are for sale. I am a writer and I write for a living. I have brothers who paint bikes. They make a very darned good living painting motorcycles of brothers primarily on the MC set. No one ever accuses them of "making money on our lifestyle" even though their only customers are from our lifestyle. I feel no different than they do. If you want your bike painted for free you can make that happen, but if you like the way he does it you'll pony up the money he requires so he can eat and feed his family too. It is only just. I have prepared professional, educational materials for those who enjoy our lifestyle and I expect to be paid for my very hard work.
      4. I can say, however, with absolute certainty that I have spent more money helping those in our lifestyle than I have ever made at this point in book sales. And in my participation in this community I have given back freely and without compunction. I have employed hundreds of bikers who enjoy our lifestyle in the biker movies, magazines, blogs and books that I've written - giving jobs, opportunities and recognition to both sides of the fence 1%er and 99%er. For instance in the movie "Biker Boyz" where I was a 'paid' consultant and technical adviser, I insisted that Hollywood use real bikers from real MCs and not actors and fake MC patches, thereby employing literally hundreds of brothers - many of whom quit their jobs to work on the set because the money was so good. So, yes, I've made some money but my brothers did too and so I feel as though I've contributed as well as taken. But contributing to the brothers was not a new concept for my MC. When I was a young man and newly prospecting my MC had policies that made it clear where the brothers stood because the MC took care of the brothers. During those days the MC made so much money that the MC employed brothers, many of whom worked for the MC as their sole occupation, when they were transitioning from the military or perhaps lost a job or whatever. They MC paid brothers to work for the MC, buried many brothers who had no life insurance, kept lights on when utility bills got behind, and on and on.
      5. One never has to pay me even one dime to get the information I have written in my books that are for sale as I make that same information freely available to anyone who wants or needs it. As I have created over 31 videos on this UA-cam page alone about our lifestyle that anyone can access absolutely free of charge - and another two dozen more on Facebook. In these videos I teach everything that you can find in my books and often go into much more detail than I have in my books because I'm speaking instead of writing.
      6. I also create FREE weekly GO LIVE interactive videos on UA-cam and Facebook where interested people can call in and get specific answers to what may be going on in their personal MC lives - this is given freely.
      7. I've been teaching a FREE Public Relations class for the past six weeks where I go into specific details about everything I have written in the book "MC PRO's Bible" (www.mcprosbible.com). I start out each class with the phrase, "You don't have to buy my book on this subject as I will go into everything that is written in the book and more here for free. You can just take notes and not buy anything. I also make the audio tapes available so that you can download and review them, but you can buy the book and follow along if you desire, the choice is up to you.
      8. I only started this off by making a video about something that was on my mind. The response was deafening creating over 5,000 views in the first six hours of making the video. So I began making more videos as MC brothers continued to send me email and ask me questions. As my videos are viewed by the thousands and many by the tens of thousands I can only assume that I am making them at the request of MC brothers and some MC sisters. When they stop viewing, stop sending emails and stop asking questions then my job will be done and I will stop making videos and writing books.
      9. I spend about 26 hours or more per week on my telephone and Facebook video chat helping MCs all over the world who call me, IM or simply video call me on Facbook, many I don't know nor have ever seen or heard of before. These folks are from both sides of the fence. Most are hurting or have been emotionally torn apart by their MCs and they need to talk, they need strategies, they need to understand protocol or they need conflict resolution. I'm no head shrink or doctor or professional of any kind, but I've not turned any of these folks away. I've given them my all and answered every call. And unless I have to travel or go extraordinarily out of my way, I will continue to help those folks for free. But if I have to help an entire MC organization I will charge for my time. Time is the only thing given to man that cannot be retrieved so it should never be squandered.
      So, I make no apologies for accepting payment for my intellectual properties (my books) as I have spent hundreds of hours developing them so that they will be useful and provide decent information. I spent tens of thousands of dollars to go to college and get a Bachelor's of Science degree in Workforce Education, Development and Training so that I know how to put information together expertly, and I've spent 27 years of blood, sweat, money and tears acquiring this information that I now share, much of it freely. But I cannot write nor publish a book for free. It costs thousands of dollars to make that happen. So I do charge for them without compunction. If that is considered to be, by some, "making money off of our lifestyle" then so be it. But at least acknowledge that I am also giving freely back to "our lifestyle" at least as much, if not more, than I am taking from it.
      When it comes to a prospect saying "No' again I speak only to what I have seen in 99%er environments. I'm sure a 1%er nation wouldn't ask a prospect to do something that they wouldn't or haven't done themselves - unfortunately that is not what I've seen in some would be, 'so-called' 99%er MCs. So I made this video to provide an understanding for prospects and hang-arounds for MCs that haven't quite figured out yet, what nobility is.
      Thank you again, so much, for your time and attention.
      Sincerely,
      Black Dragon
      BSFFBS

    • @jon1049
      @jon1049 8 років тому +1

      Black Dragon National President Spider Rider I agree with Brother Spider 100%, In my Club we Followed the same ways pretty much, A prospect was never asked to do anything illegal, and we would never ask him to do anything we wouldn't do
      And if your yelling at him you should be teaching him something not just treating him like shit for fun, he might be your brother one day and he will remember that shit and he may not be quick to help you if you need it, And as far as the having work the next day, well then the Prospect should make sure his "mother" "Sponser" knows he has work and needs to leave early, and when he is ready to leave he goes to his Mother and makes sure it's ok to roll, then the prospect says good bye to all the patch holders in the clubhouse and if a patch holder asks him who told you that you can go home, then the prospect should say "My Mother patch holder (Road name here) said it was ok because I have work in the morning patch holder" and that's it he rolls, And it's not cool to make assumptions about 1%ers and work, I know A lot of Guys that have full time jobs

    • @fourteencrows1244
      @fourteencrows1244 8 років тому

      Spider Rider fucking bullshit bud you're no patch..
      outlaw is outlaw .. you prospect with a 1 percent club... you break laws and jaws daily.. a day job is called "cover" ..

    • @SpiderRiderMC
      @SpiderRiderMC 8 років тому

      fourteen crows, just another gum flapper that knows nothing about me or my club over here in the Ukraine, you might want to ask Black Dragon about my connections as he really does know where my history lays.

    • @SpiderRiderMC
      @SpiderRiderMC 8 років тому +1

      Insults! is that the best you have?

  • @bernardstambaugh5444
    @bernardstambaugh5444 2 роки тому

    Thank you,words of wisdom.

  • @bernardstambaugh5444
    @bernardstambaugh5444 2 роки тому +2

    Club change during prospecting, I cannot support.

  • @jeffeldridge2878
    @jeffeldridge2878 4 роки тому +1

    club im prospecting for wants me to dress like a woman this goes against how i was raised father always told me not to wear my sisters clothes that he raised a boy to be a man what should i do

  • @d.mfowler4332
    @d.mfowler4332 3 роки тому

    I appreciate your videos.

  • @leathers970
    @leathers970 7 років тому +7

    we won't disrespect our prospect nor will we ever tell a prospect to do something we wouldn't or haven't done that being said as a patch holder in my club we lead by example and if u are asked to do something u think is kinda pushing the limits then u can say patch holder show me the way but if the patch holder does lead the way we'll partner u better follow

  • @edswartzify
    @edswartzify 7 років тому +1

    good advise. I took something from this.

  • @erniebunch7882
    @erniebunch7882 7 років тому +1

    Hey cuz, brother from another mother. My name is Ernie Bunch, from SE Texas. Ride safe. Brother. I dig your channel

  • @coolhand1078
    @coolhand1078 6 років тому

    In the past late seventies early eighties,a prospect for the MC only needed a flat headed scewdriver, a syphon tube ,a thick skin,a developed ego and plenty of coffee or equivalent in pharmaceutical products the club fed you and helped you with a income. Today,times change and we move with it or cease to exist.

  • @jamesshooshan691
    @jamesshooshan691 4 роки тому +1

    Black Dragon you are the coolest

  • @justinsanford997
    @justinsanford997 3 роки тому

    (uk based) been an associate in an mcc for 4 months, just been told by our chairman i am up for prospect vote this month, lookin forwards to it.
    sbffsb

  • @MrMarkeiththomas
    @MrMarkeiththomas 8 років тому +6

    God, Family, Job!

  • @dtapp2738
    @dtapp2738 6 років тому

    Is your club a support club and if so what club?

  • @ZacheryWhinery
    @ZacheryWhinery 8 місяців тому

    Show me how , future brother .

  • @kekoamaunakea4473
    @kekoamaunakea4473 4 роки тому

    ✨Just reminiscing BD, “in the end you are your own man...”Making decisions good or bad they’re still your decisions.-🤙🏽ML&Aloha Your Boy Kekoa&Ohana 🌺

  • @burtonj2k
    @burtonj2k 8 років тому +2

    Thank you

  • @biglockjoker6259
    @biglockjoker6259 5 років тому +1

    Appreciated.

  • @kristianhenze2145
    @kristianhenze2145 5 років тому

    when and where to wear mc 1% support t-shirts

  • @charlieparker5167
    @charlieparker5167 6 років тому

    I imagine more than a woman could say no in a clubhouse.

  • @prestonfrady8977
    @prestonfrady8977 7 років тому

    I have two questions..
    1-Do you allow all races?
    2-Do you have a chapter in Tennessee?
    By the way I'm a new subscriber and have only watched a few of your videos.. Very informative..

  • @DanAtEXIT
    @DanAtEXIT 7 років тому +1

    You're right about respecting the prospects life and seeing the by-laws. My previous club didn't get that memo and is no longer as viable as it once was. Sad, but karma is a bitch.

  • @claydclay
    @claydclay 8 років тому +2

    REAL TALK......

  • @alterego924
    @alterego924 7 років тому

    very helpful

  • @mrjerpsvr4105
    @mrjerpsvr4105 7 років тому

    Great insights

  • @karleisentraut3357
    @karleisentraut3357 6 років тому +1

    easiest way to spot a poser is he'll be the one going look at me I'm a real guy

  • @jaimedougherty9884
    @jaimedougherty9884 7 років тому +1

    100% wisdom

  • @JJKid-yw7vk
    @JJKid-yw7vk 7 років тому +1

    Seems to me you are not that different from the 1% M.C

    • @BlackDragonNationalPresident
      @BlackDragonNationalPresident  7 років тому +1

      It is what it is John Vargas. Not everything about any lifestyle will everybody like. You play be the rules that are established or work you way into a position of authority where you can institute some changes. And it's just that simple. There are some differences and some similarities. But once in you ride and die for your brothers. That is the part that will never change.

  • @Dusty_VH
    @Dusty_VH 7 років тому

    Do you have a chapter in Florida?

  • @karleisentraut3357
    @karleisentraut3357 6 років тому

    I don't know what club engages in schoolyard hazing. it's never happened in ant club I'm aware of. prospects are respected and and about civility, if you get treated like that, you ain't getting in. we don't take clowns

  • @Two2Hands
    @Two2Hands 4 роки тому

    I respectfully decline

  • @dennisking9257
    @dennisking9257 3 роки тому

    When ever he wants.i wanna hear one of you guys have the balls to talk about how 1%er beat women into gaslighting men into joining their gang

  • @b_smoove8800
    @b_smoove8800 3 роки тому +1

    💯👍🏾

  • @adamlewellen5081
    @adamlewellen5081 7 років тому

    In a 1% club. Nothing is more important than the club. You are expected to sign off you house, bike, wife for the club.

    • @doughboy1338
      @doughboy1338 7 років тому +4

      Adam Lewellen Not all 1% m/c clubs make you sign over your house deed and or motorcycle title.

    • @adamlewellen5081
      @adamlewellen5081 7 років тому

      David Livingston I stand corrected sir. Thanks.

    • @marcosmesa2094
      @marcosmesa2094 7 років тому +3

      Adam Lewellen I'd be damned if I'd put my wife before the club she been their for me when i was damn near homeless...not saying my bros wouldn't i know they would help me but i wouldn't sign my house or lady over to the club that is excessive

    • @jondougherty1114
      @jondougherty1114 6 років тому

      Adam Lewellen not true... To be a club member you must be the bread winner of your household...

  • @scatoni
    @scatoni 6 років тому +2

    Grown men needing gangs

    • @beardedking247
      @beardedking247 6 років тому +2

      Scats Scats why are you watching the videos?

  • @shank-jm8ii
    @shank-jm8ii 7 років тому +1

    again you speak over your goldwing to hear yourself talk. but I will say I respect you for saying you speak for the 99% clubs. presidents are presidents that's your job. there's the difference between bikers and weekend bikers.

    • @BlackDragonNationalPresident
      @BlackDragonNationalPresident  7 років тому +4

      I never talk just to hear myself talk. When I speak an entire MC nation listens. I'm no weekend biker either. I consider that an insult. But the only difference between bikers and weekend bikers is the hours put in the saddle. That's about it. We, however, are 99%ers not weekenders. We sit in the saddle as long as anybody. We have our club life which is our life and it's how we choose to live it, which is our right in America. No different than any other person's life style we do what makes us happy.

    • @revdga5911
      @revdga5911 6 років тому

      Black Dragon Biker TV do you have a problem with people not in an 22nd wearing a three price patch?

  • @mrjerpsvr4105
    @mrjerpsvr4105 7 років тому

    Fuck yeah....

  • @Jay-gs5xg
    @Jay-gs5xg 7 років тому +4

    Holy wind noise! I'll tell you why a 1% would violate someone's ability to make money. Because they don't care about the prospect. What belongs to them belongs to the club. Little does the prospect know, they still don't care about them even after they get patched in. They pretend they do, but they are a bunch of coward punks that don't know how to be their own man. Another thing, as a grown man I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be punished. All scum caught wearing a 1%er vest should be locked up on site. Pure predators even against their own.

    • @BlackDragonNationalPresident
      @BlackDragonNationalPresident  7 років тому +2

      How does someone respond to such a statement?

    • @Jay-gs5xg
      @Jay-gs5xg 7 років тому +1

      Black Dragon National President I'm not knocking all mc's, just the 1%er's. Something about someone that entire way of life does nothing positive for society and preys on innocent people just pisses me off.

    • @BlackDragonNationalPresident
      @BlackDragonNationalPresident  7 років тому +3

      There are good and bad people in all walks of life. I always try to seek out the good people and avoid that bad ones, no matter what group I find myself interacting within.

    • @AaaBbb-mc5ui
      @AaaBbb-mc5ui 7 років тому

      Jay 071122 you're so right my friend. I had months of hell trying to get my loved one out of this 1% scumbag club. They don't give a shit about their prospects or members. Only stupid, no brains men can ever be tempted to join. And this is why such clubs are full of Retards

    • @scotthankins3378
      @scotthankins3378 7 років тому +1

      Im just going to laugh when you get checked by said 1%ers. I bet you will shit your pants Mr "grown man". Only respect can save you, and you sir have none.

  • @concreteninja953
    @concreteninja953 6 років тому +4

    2 things I dont believe in...
    1- God
    2- Grown men in clubs / gangs.

    • @BlackDragonNationalPresident
      @BlackDragonNationalPresident  6 років тому +7

      So it seems our beliefs are completely out of sync because I believe in both.

    • @mattseaman5397
      @mattseaman5397 6 років тому +1

      1 God doesn't exist
      2 Grown men in MC's are real
      I personally don't understand the dedication in both.

    • @jondougherty1114
      @jondougherty1114 6 років тому +2

      Stink eye... Then that's two things you don't have to worry bout then... Isn't it

    • @andrewmerkes7512
      @andrewmerkes7512 6 років тому +1

      And why are you on his Chanel watching! Hmm sounds like you stink-eye have a name for your self! Because I know black Dragons a true believer and very smart and knows who real and who’s not.

  • @anthonydickinson5913
    @anthonydickinson5913 6 років тому

    🇬🇧👍🇬🇧