How I Survived Supermax Prison
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- After finishing high school, Ryan Thayer decided to work for his father's construction company. Fueled by his ambition, Ryan decides to expand, taking on more clients and jobs than he could handle. It didn't take long for him to hit cash flow issues, causing him to engage in fraudulent transactions with insurance companies. Railroaded by the Justice System, Ryan is sentenced to several years in the PA State Prison System and finds himself in a Supermax facility.
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As a contractor myself, something ain’t adding up here after the first 5 minutes of this interview..
Exactly. Having seen the accounting side of construction, I knew immediately what happened. Either he bid his projects too low and didn't leave enough room or he was spending too much outside of his business. There's no way he didn't know what he was doing was right. Either way, he screwed people over.
Agreed, and I was in the disaster restoration industry for over 20 years. Definitely more to this story than
As an ex-lawyer I got the same feeling.
Yes and no. BS answer to everything
He’s the Nelson Mandela of the construction business
corruption at its finest. I'm glad you were able to keep a level head through such an awful experience. Fortunately you were able to stay grounded.
google his case... dude skirted the whole interview and told light version of his actions
This guys is awesome. Needs to be life coach or something
The guy is a total POS!! He targeted elderly people, took their money and went MIA. I have no respect for people like this.
Huh? What did I miss man
@@PhillyFail google his case since he beat around the bush 100 diff times and acted like it was a civil matter for work he was "gonna" do...
Wrongoo
@@ItsThePurge rightooo
@@PhillyFail wake up man
This dude literally went out and robbed people and didn’t finish the work and it’s really sitting here playing the fucking victim. Unbelievable.
It’s not possible to sleep 15 minutes a day for 4 months. Your body would crash after a week or so. You couldn’t even do that on speed without your body crashing.
3 days up on speed and your body starts shutting down from exhaustion. I’ve been there and you can try to go for another round it’s just not the same after your body functions on that high of a level for days
Something is not right about this guy and case!!! I think hes full shit! Theres something more to this..
I completely agree there's something off with him
Yeah he lied about everything… google his name with Bristol township
Read up on this guys case. He wasn’t some innocent person not knowing he was doing wrong. He was charged with fraud for taking money and not doing the work. 10 families were screwed out over $600,000. He’s not being honest at all.
He needs to press these fraud people with facts, the last two I watched they just lie and it doesn't make sense.
He tells Ian he just kept working, in reality it was the exact opposite. He gave this convoluted response, that gave no answer to what he did. He would literally get paid to start a job, then he wouldn't finish it. Then move on to the next family and do the same. That's all he had to say. Giving all this info about adjusters and inspectors is a load of shit trying to confuse listeners. Guess he doesn't realize people can just look up what he really did? 🤦♂️
Ya all you gotta do is read the judges description on how his father acted in court and the statements made to the judge and you’ll see where the son gets it from. The judge stated he did not think the elder Thayer was not remorseful at all and would stare at the the victims in court and stated the company he started in the early 90s was more his sons than his, and that it was in his wife’s name, even though he would collect checks from victims and take them on tours of previous work they did to convince them to work with them.
He can’t take any accountability for his actions, you know what they say, like father like son.
Why do they even get on and lie lmao what is the motivation. These guys spend their entire time in prison convincing themselves they're innocent
@@johnlasch363 I donot agree...let them talk...you get to see the real person...and this fellow is delusional as to the facts.
Okay, it didn't make sense why he was getting treated so harshly until looking up his story on different sites. Hard to have much sympathy for anyone taking advantage of the elderly and their bank accts.
Yea it’s bs. Stealing money from the elderly is what it seems he was doing
I’ve watched a ton of your videos. for some reason this guy just stands out to me. Don’t really like the way he tells the story feels like more he’s not telling..
Keep up the great work IAN
22 minutes in
- he’s just finishing the contractor jobs because he has so much pride and cares so much about his clients
- gets arrested yet seems to be the only person in history who isn’t told why there arrested
- over the months and months doesn’t seem to have the most basic understanding of our legal system
Crime- arrest-court
In that order
Sleeps 15 minutes a day for 4 months which is literally impossible
- prison guards didn’t explain the rules to him
- he became a business mentor
- he won’t compromise his principles for anything
I haven’t heard him say he’s done 1 thing wrong ……
So u didn't watch the Video 😂😂😂
Actually, I was arrested 10 years ago for breaking and entering, burglary and petty theft. I was not told what I was being arrested for, no one told me at the station why I was arrested. It wasn't until I saw the judge that I found out my charges. It was bs, I fought the case and won
seems weirdly nonchalant about getting his dad a 7 year sentence.
Not much you can do. A lot of dad's that enable their kids (not saying his was, he sounds like a Good kid) let their sons do BS and run over them
They were both con artists and both got caught
@@THEJOKER-fx8qbI’m thinking you’re probably right. If his dad did hard time like that, he was guilty of something.
Better question. When does 60 months add up to 7 years
This dude is a dial tone
Me 10 minutes in: This poor dude.
Me after reading all the comments: What a POS lying MFer.
LOL, me too
After spending time in prison for his own wrong doings this guy still can’t take accountability for his actions.
You have to admit he did alot of time for something very minor
@@squidtowerlook him up on Google. He downplayed his case massively.
No he didn’t. Guys a total scumbag. Ripped off elderly people
White collar crimes don't do time, right? Just restitution.
@@squidtower defrauding elderly people is something minor?
There are SOOOO many holes in this guy’s story.
He glosses over ALL of the details about where the money actually went.
He quickly found out that playing ignorant doesn’t work as a defense in the court of law.
Yet, now he’s playing ignorant in the interview.
Exactly. His dad had "nothing to do with it," yet his dad did more time than he did and he didn't seem bothered by that.
And he won’t talk about it to anyone YET he gets on a f’ing podcast and tells “the whole”story???? Pfft whatever
This guy doesnt know if his dad who was in court with him had a lawyer- seems he doesnt care much about anyone except himself, 2nd the phone recordings at the county jail caught him saying he hopes to put most the blame on his dad.
If that was me i would be doing everything to keep him out and take the sentence myself. Unbelievable, hes a complete liar
Yeahhhh I was having a hard time with it but when he said Graterford was a supermax, I knew he was 100% full of shit. It closed down a few years ago because they built SCI Phoenix, but up till it closed down my friends literally volunteered at Graterford twice a week and they would NEVER be able to take programs into a supermax 🙄
Every jail has programs in pa state prisons the reason graterford sci was a supermax was because of the wall and it was a very old prison !!!
And a skinner, he copped out to it too
@@bretcappola6904what's a skinner
Nazi... Narcissist.
Bro, you're a natural interviewer. You don't go on and on about bs, ask the questions you know the viewers want to ask, and let the person talk. Great job.
Thanks so much man
Interview Steve Madden #convict
Couldn't have said it better Ian is 💯
Edit: Just look @ Ian's past he was a huge business man he knew what was what. 👊👏👏👏
@@ianbickCTthis dude said weapons pf mass destruction and rape of a minor under 13 and u interviewing him fucking sick
I’m sorry but I hate these kind of guys. I was in construction for 34 years. I’ve seen it all. From owners of companies to superintendents. To workers stealing hours. CATCH A CONTRACTOR !!!
Anyone who takes advantage of the elderly deserve a dirt nap.
Unfortunately the elderly are the most taken advantage of
A 2 second Google search tells this dudes real story. He took money from old people, didn't finish the work and wouldn't take their calls. He's fos
Seemed like somethimg was missing here!
Thank you.
No shit? Wow dude. Thats the lowest you can go.
Ripped off old people? Thank you for giving us the real story, before I started feeling sorry for him, or worse yet, feeling respect for him.
It’s cool bro, he rakes his kids baseball field now. All is forgiven 🙄
Dude is leaving out that he scammed 10 elderly victims for almost 800k and in his words '' A lot of money went in my pocket''. Really he was 'shocked'' when he got sentenced . Poor dude was drinking Starbucks and went to jail the same day , what a outrage!!
This poor guy he robbed $775000 from homeowners hiring him to do construction on there house then never finished the job and bailed with the cash and he whines about the prison real POS
This guys version of events makes literally no sense and when you read what actually happened... it makes sense why he just mumbled some bullshit to appear like he isn't the bad guy.
I was thinking the same thing. The article I read is a much different story.
Exactly something is off
You can tell he's too much of a "tough guy" to be real and humble. I bet the truth is much more interesting
He speaks so awkwardly at points the lies just shine through
This guy is full of 💩. Nice try Ryan. It’s just time to say I was a scumbag and I screwed up.
Bro got his dad indicted and he doesn’t even care lol speaks volumes about his character
He said he felt horrible. He said he cared. Just cause he still doesn’t have an outward emotional reaction, YEARS later doesn’t me he doesn’t care. He obviously doesn’t have ANY outward emotional reactions regarding anything he talked about even when he was talking about crying on the phone with his wife or how he instantly thought about all his kid’s milestones he’d be missing.
@@ClipsCrazy__ take the cape off….imagine getting your father put away for 60months…and elderly man…who had zero criminal intentions…this guy is a horrible human being lol
@@ClipsCrazy__ He is a liar. He never cared. He was caught on a recorded jail call saying he hopes his dad gets most of the time for the case.
@@terryt2728 He wasn’t locked up until he was sentenced. And his dad was sentenced at the same time. So he was locked up before sentencing?
@@sammycat4310 The articles available on Google search reported he said that on a taped jail call.
This dude deserves to still be in prison. Lies lies lie
Thief praying on the poor and elderly. And he comes up with this BS. why didn't you challenge him more?
He didn't challenge him more because even he stated that he is intimidated just looking at him. This interviewer is a little punk. I'm from the UK and we have Shawn Atwood who is a podcaster who spent sometime in a US prison, perhaps you have seen him on UA-cam before. All these guys go to jail or prison and now they think they know all about the system. Its really all very comical.
Imagine this guy trying to say other inmates are bad with money when he’s literally on there for fraud and being bad with money
SUPERMAX for a white collar crime????? (New Hope is bougie and gay as hell. I'm as gay as an Easter Bonnet and I feel out of place there.)
I feel like what started his whole career into basically fraud, was that he blew the money off some how. Because if it happened like he explained, then at a certain point he would have eventually been able to level out. If you are taking money from one gig and stacking it on the next gig, and so on and so forth, I just don’t see a scenario where you don’t track your paper trail and eventually get yourself out of the hole somehow, whether it’s a loan or whatever. It’s when you jerk off money and lose track of your stealing that you get to where this guy was. That’s just my honest opinion.
I went to school with this guy and half truth is all over this I'm not here to slander my guy but
Yea he definitely not saying something
yep, he's in audible denial just a bit!! lolol
cough ADDICTION cough.
This guy is a serial exaggerator/liar
Not surprised he got 6yrs as he's terrible at lying. Downplaying things to the point where they don't make sense
And not a chance that inmates went to him for business advice lol
This dude is sketch about something. I can't put a finger on it but just something about the way he answers the questions.
Yea there's something off about him
He puts on the retard act. He's not as stupid as you think or as he's trying to portray
Yep I get the same feeling. I’ve been doing construction my whole life and I’ve been in trouble many times I’ve never heard anything like this it doesn’t add up none of it as explained here .
Look up the case. Search his name and fraud. Dudes just a liar.
good job fake D.A.
Look up this guys case he is full of shit about it being unintentional, etc. Him and his pops were ripping people off left and right, and his dad was way involved
Put in a super max for looking super jacked!
I think this guy needed 50 more months and maybe he wouldn't be so high and mighty and be able to accept full responsibility instead of pretending he's better than other inmates.
With all due respect, I just do not understand how he was…. So laid back at these criminal charges. No attorney???? Wowwwwzaaaa. I’m thankful that I learned the importance of an attorney far before I’ll ever need one lol
A lot of people think it’s not too serious when they let you go home
I feel like he's hiding something
I do, people think the justice system is fair. They think nothing bad will happen to them and that they aren't going to jail. Never n trouble, nothing violent and being told he won't do time. He just believed it won't happen to him, naive. He said he was very naive. Sounds crazy to us but to them, they think the world is fair and it won't happen to them.
@@savagesavant6817ur right. Their naive and think the justice system is fair
@@GriseldaBSF410 He is. Look him up. He was doing enough,poorly done, work to get a check and never went back and stopped taking calls.
He's a pro at playing dumb.
Yes and No! Lol So basically this guy just didnt listen to his Dad! I feel like hes hiding something. How are his parents not advising him
druuuuuuugggggs
My man is from my home town of Levittown, Pa! His story sounds about right for a levittown kid... i didnt do anything wrong, everybody else screwed me over. Savage way to treat his own dad too. Wonder if he still in the L town community lol. Might stop by one of his game with big ole #FreeMyMans sign 😂
Looked up the court case after 10 minutes of him evading he did anything wrong. He wasn’t “working too fast to get paid and therefor needing money to finish other customers homes.”
He was leaving customers homes unfinished, not started, or partially done and the quality of work was abysmal. So either he’s was a scammer or he was just horrible at what he did and he can’t seem to admit either which is super weird.
Either this guy is lying or the only reason he ever went to jail was his own complete stupidity.
Edit: After reading into it, this guy is lying through his teeth the entire interview.
I do not think any this was in-intenional like hes trying say…i just read news articles he knew exactly what he was doing!
He’s clearly a compulsive liar none of his story makes much sense
As a criminal I can for sure say without doubt “one does not just move super max to super max” for no reason 😂😂😂
Ratatouille 😅
My friend went to Supermax when he wasn't supposed to. It happens quite a lot. If you think government workers are on top of things, then that's fantasy. I'm not vouching for the guy, but I know 2 guys who were supposed to go to a medium and a low, both went to supermax, the state in one case and the Feds in the other knew, and took their sweet time correcting it
Probably for his own protection given that he scammed the elderly
1. No way he didn’t know he was not committing fraud and 2. If he ended up at a super max or high level prison he racked up probably a couple million or more easy.
In a pa state prison it doesn’t matter the amount of money you made for the charge u were convicted for whether u stole a pack of gum an you have a bad record or u scam someone out of 10 million dollars you could 100% land at the same max prison they send you anywhere in pa lifers are at all 25 jails and u could have a 1-2 year sentence which is pretty much the smallest sentence unless u get a 6months to 24 months you could still get sent to a max state prison in pa it doesn’t matter they send you anywhere they have space anyone who’s been upstate pa can vouch an say this is 100% FACTS!!
This dudes story makes it seem like he was unjustly prosecuted. There has to be more than this
Nah. He ran a construction Ponzi scheme on elderly people. According to news articles...it was definitely deserved
This guy replaced my flooring but kept taking shits under the subfloor and just covered them up. My house still smellz
@@justinc4924bruhhh😂😂
I don’t think this guy is being honest about what he did. He wasn’t very clear as to what he was in so much trouble for.
I'm sorry, but this s*** doesn't make sense, no lawyer.
I was listening in the car and it was starting to sound too much like everyone else’s fault so I looked up the news articles. Great interview on your end, I wish he had answered the questions about motive but the honesty just wasn’t there to begin with.
bingo!!! full of a bit of shit. Quick talking too... you'd think he'd done absolutely nothing wrong... and got 6 years??? riiiiiiiight.
I smell bullshitt 😂
This man is a con artist.Hes the biggest victim ever.Never done anything wrong in his whole life..Like every other con artists.
Much respect to mr bick for letting him make a fool of him self.
I think made it longer than most people. 30 minutes in and I’m done. This guy is lying. I laughed when he said he slept for 15 minutes a night in his truck working two jobs. Why do people lie about things that are not physically possible?
Ian, this is why your channel struggles to get views and subs. You let losers like this get on your program and lie. Do better
What he means by "on a job" is out taking deposits on work that will knowingly never get done....i use to live in his area......look up the story its pretty bad...
Interesting story
The guy has played stupid all of his life, no concieveable way his lead up story is true.
How the hell did pops get so much jail time? Im confused man,,,,, welcome home dude
I am 26 min in and I have to stop the video. There is way too much BS he is spewing, not to mention he isn’t taking any accountability or saying what really happened… something about working and only sleeping 15 min a night in his truck for 4 months. And some trailer park boys lawyer asking for more money every time he walks into court. And his reputation so immaculate the judge wanted to keep the case out of the news 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ bro… just stop
My Android Auto autoplays you when I turn my car on - and I got to admit, I haven't listened to music in a bit
RIGHT??? It takes a lot to actively keep me from listening to music but this one definitely does it listen to these every time in the car and most of the time when I'm not lol
@@tord0ff I love the consumer turned producer podcasts like this. Always have the viewer in mind
You people need to understand the meaning of forgiveness. People fuck up and that's life. Get over yourselves!
Ian you’re very good at what you do but this guy is very disingenuous and projects zero credibility.
Ian, I found your channel a few weeks ago and found a couple other personalities through your channel. I really enjoy your style man. Quality work also. Thanks for sharing your experience and bringing others to light. Appreciate you man.
I would give him a modest 35% truthfulness
Yeah he's not telling the whole story.
Exactly, especially pretending to be that passive while he was fighting his case. You knew way more was going on
Update: did the research, him and his dad were complete scumbags. They knew what they were doing. Were committing fraud on victims of storms and fires. Some were elderly. Did horrible work or just never showed up. and his Dad was very much involved and didn’t even care either, Stared the victims down in court. HammerTime Demolition. I’m all for talking about the crimes and your experience in the pen. But just be real bro
Just google his name and the word fraud and you can read the case. 0% truthfulness
This guy for sure knew what he was doing. I don’t get it, you’ve done your time… why still lie.
He’s a liar his story makes no sense at all and how things happen. It sounds like he’s making the story up right then and there and telling it how he thinks it’ll make him look the best.
He said he slept 15-20 mins per day for 4 months. Nonsense 😂
Good story
I didn’t do anything…okay ur going to super max 😂😂
This guy is nothing but a shyster
This guy is a liar lmao come on dude. He never asked his dad what to do?
How dude says phone though... foon. Hell naw 😂
Something is wrong with this story.
Something is off with this guy
I don't understand how someone can be so desperate for a contractor that they hire someone who is under indictment and about to go to jail for construction fraud.
Because you're looking at it the wrong way. They are not desperate. They just know they can get good work done for cheap because he needs the money. What's he going to say? that's too cheap? He's the desperate one trying to provide for his family.
move to FL and find out
I was a contractor for 30+ years. If the price is low enough. People will hire satan himself
@@TheOmegaRiddlerhe preyed on elderly people
@@armedjoy3045 yeah, and he got it right back. What is he going to say? No to work.
How does 50 months equal 6 years. Different math in his state apparently.
Brother who is also in construction I believe he said not talking to him says a lot.
His first lawyer failed him, this was definitely civil, if the story he told
Is the real story. So sad how bad the system fucked him either way? Why was he in super max? Should have been in minimum
its not the real story lol
Google his name and Levittown ...... you'll see the real story.
@@alysonmartin5912 He served his time peoples. Move the hell on Mrs. And Mr. America.
@@Leroy-wm4ibSo a criminal coming to a criminal's defense
He sounds like he's lying about how he started 😂
This guy is NOT RESPECTABLE
This guy is full of crap once he opens up his mouth.
this guy come off as a liar whole way through
No one can sleep only 15 minutes a day for 4 months
Ian doesn’t believe a word he said 🤣
Very educational; good interview. Thank you, Ryan and Ian.
The host is a horrible listener
First lawyer: "32k And I'll probably get you a much lighter sentence than you would representing yourself."
Him: "I'll take my chances!"
Also him: "Now that I fuck my life up, I'll spend an exorbitant amount of money on the best lawyer in the county for my reconsideration! All according to plan.."
The fraud continues.
Ian keeps acting like it was an accident lol this dude knew he was fucking builders and homeowners get for real
First 7, 8 minutes and I'm thinking this dude is definitely leaving some shit out...
He’s leaving out some critical details lol
Hey what's this guy's name?? I wanna see what he's leaving out. I'd appreciate it.
His dad is as guilty as he is
He is sugarcoating everything. The man was 23. He owned at least 5 clients. So he was selling jobs and spending the money.
At age 23, it happened quickly. It's not like he got backed up and it ran away from him that took years. No, no. This man was blowing the payments on himself for sure.
He was actually 29 in 2015 when he got sentenced. Idk why he would like about that lol
Nice podcast, Great interview skills... I've been locked up many times & understand how the system works & how corrupt things can be.
There just seems something is off with his story- the part of him telling the story that led up to being locked up seems off- I don't want to call him a liar because I can't place my finger on what exactly it is, then the 2nd part when he's telling about in prison he seems complete Honest & genuine, 🤷♂️🤷♂️
EDIT: I JUST READ THE ARTICLES AND BY HIS OWN ADMISSION HE DOESN'T KNOW IF HIS DAD WHOS IN COURT WITH HIM HAS A LAWYER, HOW TF DOESN'T HE KNOW?? BECAUSE HES SELF CENTERED & ONLY CARES ABOUT HIMSELF-
ALSO, PRIOR TO SENTENCE RECONSIDERATION HE SAYS ON THE PHONE THAT HE WANTS TO PUT THE BLAME ON HIS DAD. RECORDED JAIL PHONE CALLS. THIS GUY IS NO GOOD..
I couldn’t imagine having a son like this smh
@@dariusjones7006 my dad and i would literally fight over who's taking the fall. I would be telling him ill go down and he would be telling me its going to be him. This dude is a scumbag.
@@dariusjones7006nah the dad is no better, his dad tried saying the business that he started in the 90s was more his sons than his. His dad got more time and was ordered to pay the bulk of the restitution if that says anything. This guy learned from his dad
Enjoyed the pod but at the end he says restatuition of 650k is quite a bit more than not finishing a few house builds etc
You’re doing awesome Ian! Wishing you the success you deserve!
Thank you!!
Amazing how he still thinks that he's innocent when he was so guilty that he plead no contest lol
He shoulda added more detail about the floods lol When u clog the drain for the person under u it actually shoot water out there toilet ive seen it hit the roof haha one guy was screaming “ its a fucking shit geizerrrr” oh man it was funny times
Dudes story has more holes then a fishing net.
Damn small world im born in Bristol right next to Levittown
This has quickly become my favorite podcast
Jay Williams is way better
@@mikesexo5386 they both have different perspectives man. Neither is better than the other imo
Not really. This dude was only in a low level camp for like 16 or 18 months in the feds. That's nothing. I'm not saying He's trash but compared to Jay William teen got nothing. His stories are in depth entertaining. Funny! And all together interesting you should check out Matt Cox inside. True crime also
@@mikesexo5386 Fair enough. This still my go to though
Thanks so much❤
Don’t believe a word this guy says.
Says the liar trump fan
Any remorse other then getting caught!? Unfortunately even us coming from good families end up taking the wrong path
Over 675k stolen from 9 different people. There’s more to the story there. Now as for the justice system and the prison system. He’s right, it’s unbelievably f’ed up. He did his time and I hope he stays on right track.