Cosmere Connections: Oathbringer, part 1

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  • @stealthmonkeydc2869
    @stealthmonkeydc2869 Рік тому +18

    Ah, a Supernatural fan I see.

  • @MistbornTaylor
    @MistbornTaylor Рік тому +41

    “Odium says that Dalinar is the first to bond the stormfather in his current state” **glances at SA prologue**

    • @junnKhya
      @junnKhya Рік тому +7

      Options:
      1. Rayse is lying (i could see this, especially since gav was making some big progress on how to kill odium)
      2. Stormfather is in a… new state? Since bonding Gav? Idk man

    • @snowdrop9810
      @snowdrop9810 Рік тому +4

      An option I see for this. It was the Stormfather's lengthy test period of gavilar, the same way the Sibling used to test her potential bondsmiths. Afterall the sibling-navani interaction was kinda sorta the same as the SA5 prolouge.

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому +6

      Yeah, I'm not sure if Gavilar was officially *bonded* to the stormfather. He was sure trying hard to get there though.

    • @FallenFromGlory
      @FallenFromGlory Рік тому +4

      @@junnKhya He's in a new form, it's stated, he's different now that Honour's vessel is dead.

    • @freddymeisner
      @freddymeisner Рік тому

      @@TheCosmerenautI think a herald dying that night changed the stormfather on a fundamental level

  • @PommyDragon2525
    @PommyDragon2525 Рік тому +15

    Pointing out that Lashings work like an Iron-Mind makes my head spin with potential. A Radiant Feruchemist would be terrifying.
    I’m multiple times as heavy as I was, falling feet first, and down is now in the direction of my enemies face.

    • @Scp4521
      @Scp4521 Рік тому +1

      Other combinations with the metallic arts could also be exciting. I am too sleepy to think up specific examples tho.

    • @PommyDragon2525
      @PommyDragon2525 Рік тому +1

      @@Scp4521 Could a BloodMaker and an Edgedancer funnel Stormlight into a Goldmind? And would it be a One to one, a net negative storage, or a positive gain in energy?

    • @Scp4521
      @Scp4521 Рік тому

      @@PommyDragon2525 ooooh, that sounds like fun. I imagine, if an edgedancer was healing a blood maker who was storing up health, it would be roughly a 1:1 stormlight to health conversion. But since stormlight healing is so potent, that bloodmaker is going to be good for a while.

    • @PommyDragon2525
      @PommyDragon2525 Рік тому

      @@Scp4521 and if a Bondsmith could ever burn Gold or Electrum, they could probably do some wild things with an open connection to their own past or future.

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому +2

      Things are gonna get wacky in the later stages of the cosmere.

  • @Juanpa_SC
    @Juanpa_SC Рік тому +13

    I'm always amazed at how Sanderson can write so many things just right to makes us glance over them if we aren't looking specifically for them. It's always like, "wait a minute, I know I read that book, more than once, but, did that really happen?". Great series Steve!

    • @Scp4521
      @Scp4521 Рік тому

      I know! I especially love subtle hoid sightings and depictions of 9/10 heralds

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому +2

      There's *always* another secret.

    • @hiiamsam4808
      @hiiamsam4808 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, after oathbringer, I read the WoK and at the feast scene I was like: you were here all the time?!​@@Scp4521

  • @bookreviewsfromareadingmac1148
    @bookreviewsfromareadingmac1148 Рік тому +11

    “What would Hoid do?”
    Sentences said moments before disaster

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому +2

      Yeah, definitely not a safe question.

    • @GenZVall
      @GenZVall Рік тому +4

      Me: What would Hoid do?
      Me: *does what Hoid would do
      Me: *realizes I'm not Hoid
      Me: *panicks

  • @GenZVall
    @GenZVall Рік тому +2

    18:52
    Ok that Nightblood comment made me laugh way harder than it probably should have lmao 😂

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому +2

      Turns out the only "evil" that needed to be destroyed was sexual frustration.

    • @GenZVall
      @GenZVall Рік тому

      @@TheCosmerenaut uh... Kina scared to ask but... how would that even work with Nightblood and Azure's sword? 😅

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому

      They'd just run around slashing things together. And then when their blades touch, *tingles.*

    • @GenZVall
      @GenZVall Рік тому

      @@TheCosmerenaut Of course. What else would it be? Lmao 🤣

  • @kristen7339
    @kristen7339 Рік тому +7

    I completely missed that Tien was bonded!!!

  • @nalfo0956
    @nalfo0956 Рік тому +2

    You’re videos are so phenomenal man! I’ve enjoyed this series from the start watched each of em a couple of times. Excited for your future endeavors brother

  • @samthestache8
    @samthestache8 Рік тому +4

    Huh, I had forgotten about the lost sailors with light in their pockets (~7:08). In the context of The Lost Metal, that goes from neat little myth to very worrying...

  • @adamrbuchanan
    @adamrbuchanan Рік тому +2

    These videos always take extra time to watch, cuz I have to go back multiple times to digest it. Great vid!

  • @baileycox6847
    @baileycox6847 Рік тому +5

    The first time I heard the Tien thing, it was one of the most shocking reveals of my cosmere history. I hadn’t even thought about who that bonded person that was killed could be; it’s even more heartbreaking about what his truth was. I have a lot of younger siblings, so I always felt really strongly about that part of Kaladin’s backstory.

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому +1

      Tien's story is so sad; bonding a cryptic because he didn't really think of himself as a good person and didn't want people to see him differently.

  • @KaydianBladebreaker
    @KaydianBladebreaker Рік тому

    Thanks for bringing some clarity to all the little nuances I've missed.

  • @Honer_300
    @Honer_300 Рік тому +4

    Sigzil and the question of “what would hoid do?” Boy did that age well post sp4

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому

      For real!

    • @mycointhetrees
      @mycointhetrees 2 місяці тому +2

      his scene in Sunlit with Hoid makes me so immensely empty and sad. to see Hoid speechless, to see him feel for what he’s put onto sig, man that got me.

  • @Scp4521
    @Scp4521 Рік тому +2

    Can't wait for part 2. You cannot have my pain.

  • @snowdrop9810
    @snowdrop9810 Рік тому +1

    Spoiler for tress
    At 19:35 a spore eater doesnt actually seem that connected to the soulcasters, as the soulcaster turns the FLESH into the thing the soulcaster is attuned to, instead of being in the blood & draining water and keeping the host alive against physical harm/death. Afterall the soulcaster ailment doesnt really offer any protection.

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому

      Oh yeah, they're definitely different in their cause. I was just struck by the similarity of descriptions.

  • @Bittmap
    @Bittmap Рік тому

    So. Many. Connections! Love these videos.

  • @brandonc2870
    @brandonc2870 Рік тому +1

    During the dual light weeding scene hoid uses the 11th metal

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому

      Interesting... That's basically what happens when Dalinar goes in to the Nightwatcher.

  • @Conduit23
    @Conduit23 Рік тому

    I reeeeaally need to get around to that Stormlight re-read..

  • @snowdrop9810
    @snowdrop9810 Рік тому

    10:20 I never saw this. How is tien a lightweaver?

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому

      He had bonded a cryptic and said at least the first ideal because of a deep seated belief that he wasn't a good person; he felt he was living a lie by everyone seeing him as "a ray of sunshine."
      wob.coppermind.net/events/352/#e10278

  • @alexmart3931
    @alexmart3931 3 місяці тому

    I might be wrong, but didn't we meet pattern back when Shallan accidently went into shadesmare once.

  • @thomasissa8328
    @thomasissa8328 Місяць тому

    I thought that the reincarnated and their children in Warbreaker look how they think they should look like, so could probably shapeshift a lot if they worked at it

  • @MichaelSmith-eg4bb
    @MichaelSmith-eg4bb Рік тому +1

    Is “spoilers for everything” all of oathbringer or the the entire series?
    I have read up to oathbringer as well as mistborn era 1 and warbreaker..
    can I still watch this video?

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому

      Spoilers for everything. This series talks about minor connections from Arcanum Unbounded novellas, both eras of Mistborn, Warbreaker, White Sand, literally all the things.
      Usually not too story ruiningly major, but I'd suggest waiting.

  • @SigmaTheEevee
    @SigmaTheEevee 11 місяців тому +1

    My theory is that Shallash is the girl who looked up

  • @dirkrousseau462
    @dirkrousseau462 Рік тому +1

    No thumbs lol gotta love Patji

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому

      There's a special place in my heart for Patji.

  • @jordanbrah3333
    @jordanbrah3333 Рік тому

    In Warbreaker, Vasher and Vivenna talk about how he can transform his body. He then goes on to mention she has the ability too, which is why she can change her hair (royal locks) but mentioned it takes great practice. Based on the timeline and her growth, I’m assuming she’s practiced hence the ability to change in appearance?

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому

      Totally possible. She also just might have enough Breath to be able to do it now, regardless of Royal Locks.

  • @SvenTuSventu
    @SvenTuSventu Рік тому

    Last one sorta promise. Invested pockets? Southern Scadrial pre flight. Coins are limited, what other investiture could it be

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому

      Invested pockets? I'm not sure what you're talking about.

  • @SvenTuSventu
    @SvenTuSventu 5 місяців тому

    Tocar el tamber (tember, proper yet English pronunciation off) means " ring the bell." Ergo all sound/song ref in SA.

  • @thebooklion
    @thebooklion 2 місяці тому

    I've just finished Oathbringer. Where did you get that Renarin is Sja-anat's son? I think it's his spren Glys isn't it?

  • @MrPogostyc
    @MrPogostyc Рік тому +1

    Dunno if this is confirmed or not on WOB, but spoilers for Dragonsteel (brandon's BYU thesis novel that is no longer canon) further on:
    I have read bits from Dragonsteel as I live in utah and have been able to read it. I know thats basically committing adultery to some people in the community, but hey, i was curious.
    Topaz is literally Hoid's real name. I havent finished Dragonsteel, but i can tell you that Topaz IS Hoid/Cephandrius so that fits really well considering how the Avatar of Autonomy addresses him.

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому +1

      I've read most of it as well (yay locals!), and I know he's called Topaz thoughout that whole book, but I believe that's more of a title or pseudonym and not his actual name. One of his earliest aliases is Cephandrius, and he gets called Midius my Ash at the end of Oathbringer, but we haven't gotten confirmation on his *actual* name yet.

  • @brandonc2870
    @brandonc2870 Рік тому

    Where can I find the story containing Yolen

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому

      Exactly what Galven said; at this point it's only Dragonsteel and that's non-canonical.

  • @picivyvortac2641
    @picivyvortac2641 11 місяців тому

    Has anyone else noticed that knife appearing and disappearing from one owner to the next? It's like a knife with broken Connection >=)
    I think it first is shown in secret history. A certain thief has it when he ascends with a wash of purified connection.

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  9 місяців тому

      I wouldn't be surprised if Nazh's knife showed up somewhere again.

  • @freddymeisner
    @freddymeisner Рік тому

    Man these videos rock

  • @almiros4080
    @almiros4080 6 місяців тому

    This kinda trailed off the original point of it being a cosmere connection video and just became a book recap

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  5 місяців тому

      I'm never sure how much inter-book connections I should bring up. Admittedly, this one does probably have too much.

  • @davidhamilton676
    @davidhamilton676 Рік тому

    I don't think there is an opposite to illumination, as you said, for the unmade. spoilers: ROW- Robonial was going to "unmake" the sibling. Id say the Midnight mother was a creation spren who odium mixed his soul with while unmaking it. Like cream in a coffee.

  • @whatevenisamedic
    @whatevenisamedic Рік тому +2

    I can't help but think Sanderson would have corrected all the pronunciation of people, places, things for the audio books. So I take how they're read by Kramer and Reading as how he intended things to be pronounced.
    In nearly everything I watch people pronounce cities and people differently than the audiobook. Throws me off. That just me?

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому

      As a print reader, I know I pronounce things wrong. But also, according to Brandon, it doesn't really matter?
      faq.brandonsanderson.com/knowledge-base/how-do-you-pronounce-_________s-name/

  • @goododarco2785
    @goododarco2785 Рік тому

    Interestingly enough, WOB shows no results for the terms Hoid and Stoneward. It actually seems like it’s the order where the least number of people are interested in it.

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому +1

      I haven't heard anyone else make that connection before, so either I'm way off, or definitely on to something.

  • @SvenTuSventu
    @SvenTuSventu Рік тому

    Wonder if it was a silver knife... Hmmm?

  • @pipoms
    @pipoms Рік тому

    i thought that timbre sound like in spanish /tɪmbre/ not /taɪmb(r)/
    (i hope that i wrote it right)

    • @baileycox6847
      @baileycox6847 Рік тому +1

      It’s pronounced like tam-ber because she’s named after a musical term. In music, Timbre is the amount of roundness, called “light” or “darkness” of the tone. If you listen to music, OPERA singers have a REALLY DARK timbre, while most pop artists have a BRIGHT timbre. If you want an example of a SUPER bright timbre, Albuquerque by Weird Al is about as bright as you can go.

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому

      I know they pronounce it in the audiobook as Timber, but it is an existing term already.

  • @SvenTuSventu
    @SvenTuSventu Рік тому

    Just love your love

  • @Radiant_Veil
    @Radiant_Veil Рік тому

    Something is fuckin off about Lirin. There's no way hes just a normal dude

    • @TheCosmerenaut
      @TheCosmerenaut  Рік тому

      You don't have to be magical to be a disconnected parent.

  • @SvenTuSventu
    @SvenTuSventu Рік тому

    MHA lol

  • @TheCosmerenaut1
    @TheCosmerenaut1 Рік тому

    Love these videos!