33. Masterclass in Holland 06.11.09. Vladimir Miller, basso profundo. avi
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- 33. Сюжет из голландской новостной программы, посвященный мастер-классу В. Миллера в Миддельбурге (Зеландия). 06.11.09.
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He has a lovely speaking voice, too.
"Не отвержи мене..." - волшебная божественная музыка, потрясающий голос. Браво, Владимир Робертович!
Mr. Miller, you are the greatest singer on the planet in my opinion. Thank you for letting us hear your talent, sir.
Это же просто прекрасно, музыка, пение и просто человеческое общение! :-)
Mr. Miller for all of your fans, the greatest thing ever would be to hear you, Mr. Pasyukov and Mr. Vishnyakov and Mr. Kruglov sing together. Thank you for answer the questions me and so many of your fans have had. God grant you many years!
Mr. Miller even though you have no producers in America, our country would be honored if you visited and experienced the Orthodox Church in America and its musical footprint here. We the fans would love to hear you sing the the American classic basso profondo solo "Old Man River." Thank you for your hard work to make the voice of the Russia basso profondo known.
Unfortunately, Mr. Pasiukov and Mr. Vishnyakov are no longer young. They have poor health and almost not sing solo. And with Mikhail Kruglov, we are great friends and often sing together. For example, in the project "Three Russian bass profundo", where together with us singing yet Sergey Kochetov.
Good morning, I also listen to pasyukov, but it is sad that pasyukov passed away in2011. Do you have memories about pasyukov’ s speaking voice?
Sou seu grande fã aqui no Brasil! Deus abençoe vossas vozes
@@garciademoura Agradeço sinceramente por tão gentis palavras e desejo todo sucesso!
Mr. Miller, lots of respect and best wishes. I hope the world can hear your voice for many more years. Hugs from Colombia.
I would be glad to sing concerts in America, but for me there is no producer.
If you know Glenn Miller, ask him if he can hook you up with an American producer.
@@MatthewVanston Of course, I know Glenn Miller. But he, like me, is a professional musician. And I consider it incorrect to seek contact with the producer through him.
Mr. Pasiukov and Mr. Vishnyakov never sang together. I sang with Pasyukov and with Vishnyakov. I try not to sing in English because I do not know the language. My languages are Russian and German.
incredible voice. regards from brazil. i am starting to study low voices and yours is an inspiration. 1:35 I was in awe because of how deep you go. i can't even imagine producing a sound like this.
Володя, красавчик! Мой друг, люблю его!
A basso profondo, or very low bass, has at least a low C, and his voice cannot possibly be mistaken for a baritone. The basso cantante, or mainstream low bass, as a rule does not get below Eb or D successfully, and generally does not sound as obviously bass as a profondo. (Cesare Siepi, a fabulous basso cantante, did have a high-quality low C.) There is also the high bass, or tweener, who is easily mistaken for a baritone especially when young, and whose lowest quality note as a rule is about E or F. (Donald Gramm, a noted high bass, was an exception, for he could sing Eb and D with substance.) Miller is without doubt a basso profondo, and a fabulous one at that, reminiscent of great predecessors in that vocal range such as Mardones, De Angelis, List, and Kipnis.
I wish I could receive a master class lesson from Mr. Miller!!!
Mr. Miller, thank you for sharing your beautiful voice with all of us, and for passing on your gift through teaching... I have greatly enjoyed hearing your singing on UA-cam. I have especially enjoyed the Valaam recordings -- "Svete Tihij" comes to mind immediately, as does "The Pine Tree" and that "Song of Russian Romance" that is here on UA-cam somewhere. As for finding an American producer, sooner or later, it will happen... we love you here, and want you to come!
Wonderful voice!
Miller is fantastic!
I thing that now - I do. And about 10 years ago - Mr. Pasiukov.
@wowdanalise Kurran, Let me just shoot in, as Mr. Miller is likely otherwise occupied: In this video he does sing the contra-G, which is the deepest I have heard him sing. So I do not know what deeper notes you might be referring too. Now if you're able to reach a contra G without fry at the age of 17, that's great. Just make sure sure you're the oktave above! A contra G at 17 is very rare. Regardless of this, you probably have quite a deep voice already.
This is my first time hearing you sing. I don't understand the Russian language and yet, I'm enjoying your singing.
He was speaking German in the interview, I was surprised when I understood him suddenly
Yes, more or less. At least in the Italian definition of profundo. Chesnokov devides the bass section into these groups: 1) baritones; 2) light basses; 3) strong basses; 4) strong basses with a good low register; 5) octavists with medium range, power and a soft sound; and 6) strong and deep octavists. So it makes sense to put basses who fall in between E2 and C2 in the third and forth groups, depending on their power. Groups 4, 5 and 6 are profundos. Nothing set in stone, though, this will vary.
2:21: beautyful B flat!
fabulous, I wish you the very best !
1:57 love to see you speak german
His normal speaking voice is really not that low.
Yeah I noticed that it wasn't that low either. I think in general most (healthy) people's speaking voices are lighter than their singing voices. I know mine is.
How old are you? There are like 3 or 4 small vocal shifts after age 15. There's one around 18, one around 23, one around 30...each shift is a little smaller than the previous, kinda like radioactive decay lol
Can you tell me how you experienced this? I am a young bass trying to figure out what to expect in the future.
Are you asking me? You sort of notice this stuff around the passaggio. Your voice will naturally "cover" more frequently maybe a half tone lower as the voice gets heavier and deeper, both through development and just plain maturation. Additionally, the lower end of the voice will extend slightly. I'd say my voice from age 18 to 26 dropped about a step (maybe a step and a half at most if I'd been singing frequently). Again these changes are not nearly as drastic as the ones you undergo during puberty, but they are significant.
Nikhil Krishna Yes, I was asking you. Can you further explain what you mean by "cover"?
Thank you Mr. Miller for bringing fame back to Orthodox music. Will you be performing in the USA again at some point.
This Is soo cool!
Там действительно были те, с кем можно было поработать? Настолько большая разница в подготовке.. Да и не только, скорее всего. Или ученики волновались) тоже чувствовалось)
@MillerVladimir I have just read that Mr. Pasjukov has passed on... please accept my condolences. He will be missed, but not forgotten.
@KjeXXXer
I appreciate such a thorough answer. Your knowledge seems vast and I am interested unto what experience you have pertaining to the subject of choral music.
@wowdanalise Let me first correct myself: Just make sure you're NOT the oktave above. I'm no expert on this, but I am an aspiring oktavist, singing second bass in the Sancta Sunniva Chamber Choir in Bergen and the Norwegian Youth Choir. I've been obsessed with the Russian orthodox choral music for a few years now.
I didn't know you speak German, wow! You speak pretty well
Very enjoyable viewing, Mr. Miller!
Would you ever consider having a masterclass in Bergen, Norway? As a young bass 2/profundo it would be such a privilege to meet you and learn from you!
My condolances on the loss of the esteemed Mr Pasyukov, he was among the greatest singers in the 20th century - like yourself.
Голова болит от этого голоса. Но голос красивый конечно
anyone know what Marian hymn they are practicing?
2:20 Bb1
+singinceil G1 at 1:34 i think.
dunno but its fry not in his chest voice
+singinceil no its not fry, it's to resonant. I think it's just verry quiet (he has been known to sing to G1 and F1 in choirs so I doubt he fried this one)
well he wasnt even trying he was just like explaining. i know he is able to sing an G1 or even F1 but a true G1 in chest would sound way different than that.
@@singinceil nope, its full chest sound
Maestro, you should come to America. You could be the next Chaliapin.
Hi, you seem to be very knowledgeable on this topic and since I'm also obsessed with the Basso Profundo style I'm asking where you get your information if you know a good book on the topic or anything else. Any tips you can give me would be very much appreciated !!
Bravo, er kann auch Deutsch!!!
that's amazing, i just can sing to B1, i hope u can sing mor
I mean there's no real limit to notes you can hit, fry or not - IF your voice is a profundo. It just a matter of where you have volume and where you do not. I can HIT sub-contra notes with some fry, but there won't be much volume. If your voice is a profundo, it's a matter of technique, from my own experience. From what you describe you sound like a good, strong bass with normal bass register E2-E4. With age you might get a D2, C2 etc. I myself look forward to turning 40 ;)
So, any singer with an Eb2 in fortissimo is a profundo, more or less?
I imagine you'd want a C2 at least, so what happens to those who fall in between C2 and E2?
I thought Storms had a little more than an E2, seeing as his fry is so thick which implies rough vocal cords. Have you heard Paul David Kennamer? That man's voice is a mystery to me. I can't make sense of it.
Timbre will vary from singer to singer, but at the end of the day he is frying into a microphone instead of working in a choir and honing his voice and technique, so I tend not to care too deeply. To really determine his voice, I'd have to hear him without a mic.
Anyway, I think you should join my group, man. We're a bunch of mad men who geek out about Russian music and basses. Search for 'Octavism, basstronomy, choral' on facebook!
I wouldn't call him 'just another', since his timbre is noticably different from the others would-be-profundi, like Mike Holcomb and Eric Bennet.
But, perhaps it's just studio magic. Who knows. If you or I would ask him directly he'd probably say something about gifts from god or smth inconclusive up that alley.
Mr. Miler, I would ask, at what age you were able to reach these notes?
At the age of 17, I am able to reach the lowest of notes displayed in this video without vocal fry, however I am not able to reach the lowest of notes you have sung in various other videos which include you as you have sung considerably lower.
I would like to ask how low you would think my voice may drop as I mature into adulthood.
Your loving fan, Kurran Lawrence.
I hope my voice will still develop, I'm 12 years old and can hit D2 at most.
I define a profundo as some one with a large voice, that goes deeper than the usual bassrange of E2-E4. The essential part being the large voice. Tim Storms, for instance, is no profundo, but rather a bass-baritone who can fry through twelve miles of fucking stone. If you listen to the Tranquility cd, which is the record he made with the St Petersburg Chamber Choir after winning the contest, you'll hear that he fries anything below E2. So the essential part is the large voice.
KjeXXXer I always defined it as someone who has D2 forte. For example, I would call myself basso profundo because I can go to a C#2 with forte and my C2 and B1 are still audible.
@@Wallhackingplusesp Bb1 forte my friend, in the words of Glenn Miller himself.
@kje Vladimir miller can sing low notes without a mic
I wished this was translated in English
What do you mean 'isn't any limit' ?
I don't count vocal fry as singing, since you can't sing it with power over a choir - and as far as I know, the modal register is severely limited by vocal cord length and weight.
I've been stuck around E2 for years now. I'm louder because of better technique but no way am I lower consistently.
@MillerVladimir Пожалуйста, скажите мне, сколько лет они?
24.02.2022
What is the piece at 1:02?
Thanks
So you define a profundo as someone who could potentially sing 20 Hz without frying it?
That's a bit harsh :(
I have too heard that age gives you extra low notes, but I fear that they might be 'fake' notes. 'Fake' as in not resonating properly like the modal notes do since puberty. I've seen old people sing low notes, but they are _very_ weak (even though they're not fried).
@wowdanalise I have sung with young men your age who had a D2, already on their way to becoming great basses. Just work on song technique in general with a qualified teacher, and practice the low register more as you get older, past 20. There isn't any limit to how low you can sing when you're an oktavist or even a normal bass, it's just a matter of when it stops being song and it's just sound.
Kennamer is just another low gospel bass. If he can do that without a microphone, let's talk.
Да по Германии бегают по судовое, каждый пятый наверное разговаривает чуть не в контр октаве.
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Grappig, dat die man Duits spreekt. Men zou, in deze orkaan van slechts Angelsaksische geluiden die tegenwoordig ten gehore worden gebracht, haast gaan fantaseren dat men op onze wereld alleen nog maar Engels spreekt, voorzien van Nederlandse ondertiteling ! En dat terwijl Vladimir Miller een Engelse achternaam draagt. Onderstaande opmerking van flapdrol Ionemapper is dus volkomen onterecht : laat Engelstaligen ook maar eens puzzelen!
1:35
.avi
wat voor studend is dat???????????? operette amateur of zo?voor deze international basso..... heureusement la honte ne tue pas........ hihihi