Do you still have to register via an app to get the printer working? And are log files still absolutely massive and encrypted, so you don’t know what informtion is drained from your computer and sent to a foreign company/nation?
@@mr_voronVoron is so over hyped. Its not that I hate them, they're fine, but hate that they take the spotlight from other open source printers that have more innovation than them. Also there is a really culty feeling to voron whereas the others just feel like dudes having fun breaking limits. Ratrig, Vezbots, the rook and more. So many others. Anyhow? personally I'll keep loving my 2 year old X1C. Made printing no longer a chore. I no longer have to know so much about klipper.
@@canadaplease7981 The Bambu printer is still just an amazing printer. Well worth the hype. Also hes not gushing over the specific printer, hes gushing about printing in general. There are many options out there.
Fellow engineer here, you summarized how far 3D printing has come perfectly. About 10 years ago, I was one of those nerds that had to constantly fiddle with my printer and it was more of a hobby and less of a tool. The printer I have now is the exact opposite of that, it’s purely a tool
LoL I'm one of those still printing with a 2017 Prusa MK2S with all the same original parts except changing out the nozzles every couple of years. Never fiddled with anything. Its been printing ABS Mustang parts and 1 Meter RC boat hulls for going on to close to a decade now. It also prints shafts and gears for the gearboxes for my RC ships - they spin at 10,000 rpms so the quality was there 7 years ago and it still is. I am looking for a second printer now and seeing nothing new really except higher print speeds and more idiot sensors. What printer do you have now? I'm looking to get a second one now and looking at Bambu Lab A1 and P1S, I want to try one but worried about the MTBF, I just want another 7 years of trouble free, repair free printing with the new machine, I'm sure the MK2S will be around in another 7 years.
I did the same. Had 4 printers and rarely was more than one operational at the same time while the others were being upgraded or repaired. It got old. Very old. Buying a Bambu P1S with AMS and getting out of the upgrading and fiddling with. business was my best decision ever.
I’ve without a doubt poured well over $1000 into the first printer I got in 2013. It’s got to the point where there’s 2% of the original left. Oh and it still barely works 😅
I'd started at around that same time with a rep-rap, and at some point around 2021 I decided I was tired of always having to fix and tweak the printer before using it. I just ponied up for a prusa, which while expensive probably saved me money overall. Plus, I've been able to actually make things which is a lot more fun than constantly fixing the printer.
Get a Bambu and then experience the joy of (nearly) flawless 3d printing without needing to be into 3d printing. I now choose to muck around and try things with my ender, but i make parts on my bambu.
Proud 3D printing nerd here, I’m glad people can finally use this tech us nerds have been enjoying and slowly improving for years without rat holing into yet another hobby.
It always makes me really happy 3d printing nerds were more like "Lets make this super amazing tech better not just so it does cooler things but also so more people can experience how awesome and useful this can be!" Rather than people going "Nyoooo this is my niche of my niche hobby you cannot know my secrets!"
This is probably the video with the most savvy and sensible suggestions I have ever watched about 3D printing. Not surprised at all that a mechanical engineer made it. Thanks for posting! Also, great deal with the instalment plan! 😂
yeah, I had a story like matt's with an early open chassis printer - it was fine, but mega slow and one in five actually worked. bought a bambu last year and it's been banger after banger ever since
@@mundanestuff Seriously, my ender 5 plus was $500 in 2021, 1000+ hours later it needs a full rebuild of the bearings, rails, lead screws, and one of my z axis servos is on the way out.
Something to note; McMaster-Carr has a Lot of 3d models, 3D models you can import directly into CAD....I needed an electrical enclosure for a project, stores were closed, 5h later I had an enclosure. Great video!
@@BeefIngot I use McMaster's STEP files a lot via Fusion360. I've actually printed simple barb fittings for one time tasks. I've also printed fasteners, pneumatic parts, etc.
And they have for a long time. 20 years ago as a drafter and design engineer, McMaster CAD files were amazing. I can only imagine it is even better now.
The first minute and a half spoke to my soul. I’ve been saying it for years, ever since I got my first printer. 3d printing IS the hobby. People 3D print shit because they like playing with 3d printers. I got my printer to print useful things to support my other hobbies, not to be the main hobby. I’m so happy to see the industry finally moving in a meaningful direction.
Model engineers have the same attitude; I mentioned on a forum that standing at a machine carving off metal by twiddling handles is not a mystical process, but tedious work and was told that I should get another hobby. But those hobbies were the reason I bought the lathe in the first place, not to produce pretty piles of swarf or to make tools for the lathe.
You can do both, enjoy printers and print functional car parts. But i agree that its nice that you can choose what you want now, rather than being forced into learning about printers just because you want to print the odd bracket here and there, or a bushing, or gaskets and stuff.
I print stuff for my electronics hobbies all the time and I fiddle with my printers as yet another fun thing to do. Really depends on what you want to do.
The most amazing takeaway from this is, the Bambu X1 Carbon shown in this video costs US$1200... which is only slightly more what I paid for my Prusa Mendel kit back in 2012, which was a box full of 3D printed parts, stainless steel threaded rod, and an Arduino. I still use that machine, and I'm not ashamed to say that yes - from day one the printer itself was the hobby.
I read the title and at first glance I thought it said “It’s finally time to put your 3D printer in the garbage” I am happy to report that the title was NOT as I thought 😂! Amazing video!
@@BeefIngotbuying pellets in smaller amounts isn't that much cheaper. Like the shops that sell them for pellet printers typically charge for pla like 5 to 10 bucks a kilo and you can buy filament now for 10 bucks a kilo. The users with the decent expensive pellet extruders tend to just care more about the filament not running out or needing changing than anything else. And not having to splice together 80% used 10 kilo rolls of 3mm filament. Really a lot of the expense is just in the logistics chains as it is for filament as filament.
@@lassikinnunen My understanding is that it's much cheaper than that. I also see 10 dollars a spool as some mystical bulk purchase with local supplier type pricing.
Can't wait for all the accusations of being a fanboy to roll in, but 3D printing has reached its current capabilities because of Prusa. Bambu's are great too, I use them alongside Prusas at work to prototype for injection molding. But Prusa absolutely laid the groundwork for both hardware and software, and Bambu built on the development Prusa made. I think Voron also deserves some credit here for laying the groundwork on CoreXY. Bambu did an excellent job of ramping up print speed and making a very user friendly printer and an excellent multi material system, but they built on previous work. I just want to be sure that the incredible hard work people put into open source hardware and software projects like Prusa and Voron gets the recognition it deserves, since printers like Bambu wouldn't exist without it. But in general, 3D printers were terrible 10 years ago, and are indespensible and reliable tools now. I literally couldn't do my job without them.
I don't like Bambus, but I don't own one, only worked with them, and I'm used to tinkering on my own printers. They're great for people like Matt who want something that will work 99% of time tho. There are better printers out there (Voron etc) but the time investement to build and/or tune them is not worth it for most people I think. Also I haven't quite finished the video, but for stiffer/higher heat resistance random geometry parts you can 3D print molds and make forged carbon parts using them
I agree Prusa laid the groundwork and their contribution can not be overlooked. We simply would not have the great printer choices we have today without Prusa. We owe them a ton. But when Bambu first brought out the X1C, it really was a game changer. Sure, some custom tweaked printer could equal and potentially outperform the Bambu, but it was just so easy to get stuff done. This is one of the cases where that last 10% of efforr has really paid off. I'm just sad that Prusa couldn't have been the company that made the "easy button" for printing.
God this myth about Vorons is so frustrating. Anyone with eyes can see there are 100s of core xys that Bambulab printers are closer to than Vorons. Things like simple cube, ratrig and vez3d have done just as much if not more and earlier in some cases than voron and people give them all the praise because they're more well known. A big part of what make Bambu printers good and cost efficient is that they aren't at all built like Vorons. They're build like computer cases which let's them do a lot of automation and use less parts. As for Prusa and laying the ground work, gimme a break. Prusa slicer is open source not because prusa is kind but because they had to as its based on GPL3 code from slic3r, super slicer, cura, and even Bambu studio. The ENTIRE point of the GPL3 is that you got free work and must therefore pass that on as well, and Bambulab has completely honored that spirit.
Technically, Prusa would have never made printers if not for the rep rap project, so all credit really should go to them. Without them, Stratasys would still have the market cornered and printers would still be relegated to prototyping divisions of large manufacturers.
I am biased but: Prusa printers have been entirely plug-and-play fire-and-forget for me, would put them on the same level especially if you don't need an enclosure/ok with building an enclosure for it. Biased primarily because I like Prusa as a company for many reasons, one of them being that I used to work for them. Also, entirely agree that the loads of new amazing filaments are gamechangers, would also quip that 90% of the useful prints I tend to print are in the single use jig-tool-spacer-mould-thingy category for which PLA or PETG are absolutely fine. As in, simple (but reliable) 3D printers are still useful garage tools. 100% confirm being good with CAD makes your printer about 10x more useful. No excuses. If you have one, learn CAD.
This. All of it. Especially the "learn some modeling", part. I quickly realized that learning at LEAST a LITTLE 3D modeling is kind of a necessity. It's not that hard to do, either. I bought my printer for one thing and one thing only, though...😁
The reliability of my Mk3 went down considerably when I installed the MMU2 on it, but once I took that off it went back up to being 90%+ "push button, bet thing." And that's a printer that came out over 6 years ago at this point. Bambu printers are good. Great, even. But to confidently state (as Matt did) that they are "kind of [the] only one" that satisfies the "reliable, capable, consumer 3D printer that mostly just works" condition shows a fundamental lack of awareness of the 3D printing space. We've been spoiled for choice in that regard for years at this point.
I really like your aproach and perspective on 3D printing! I was also for a long time avoiding 3d printing, because it was a hobby for nerds, who would make stupid things. When Bambulab came out, I realized, that finally there is a solid 3d printer that can do complex things easily in contrast to other 3d printing brands / printers.
I'm sure tons of people will say this kind of thing, but my creality K1 has been flawless out of the box. I am a mechanical designer and this has been an invaluable prototyping and production tool. Zero fiddling, zero issues. Almost a year in and It just works (so far anyway).
Same here! I've never been able to print more than two things in a row without serious issues with the Ender. This machine gets as close to set it and forget it as possible.
Similar for me, Ender 3 Max to a Qidi Q1 and all of a sudden I don't have to babysit every print or worry about moving it and ruining the bed level, it just works.
@@israelcontreras5332 Wtf are you talking about?? Without AMS its not even 3 times the price..."8-10 times..."...😒 Btw A1 mini is even cheaper then ender 3 pro and prints almost the same quality as P1S anyways so that makes your comment even more meaningless...
Great video. I had the exact same journey of 3D printing from a $200 knock-off to now a Prusa MK4. Just like the Bambu it just works every time and with a wide variety of filaments.
I am one of those nerds whos been 3d printing for years. You nailed it, spot on. The Bambu was a game changer, and while a few other machines have started to catch up, its still the best by fair! In the last 2 years of owning the Bambu I have got twice as much productive printing than I did with 5 years of multiple older machines.
I have a Bamboo A1 sitting in my basement that my wife picked up on black Friday sale for me awaiting Christmas day, can’t wait to start playing with it. I have a few other projects that I’m trying wrap up before can focus on it but in meantime collecting free print files and learning cad program so I can create my own. I have been fabricating/building/engineering things in wood, metal, leather, and other materials for @ 25 years and I’m ok calling myself a maker.
I bought a printer in ‘16 and hated all the tweaking and time it took to make anything that looked quality. Bought a Bambu last year and was blown away by the advancements. Thanks for telling me about cf-ppa
Yea most people that hate on 3d printing got in back then probably. I got in around 2022 with my ender 3, and it was like $200 off amazon and its been performign admirably. Like seriously I cant break half the shit it pumps out with my bare hands, and its mostly plug and play aside from the levelling.
You nailed it with your description of how people have used 3D printers. I also have several printers but only care about using them for engineering uses. I never saw the draw to printing figurines or other trinkets.
Maybe it's those that don't print anything useful with the printer that I'm thinking. I've known a few people who have printers but couldn't model a cube in CAD so if they can't download it they don't print it. That's just such a severe limitation for what the printer can do. But yeah I would print decorations or other things if someone was paying me for sure. I guess it's been nice to see more youtube builders showing how they've used 3d printers.
I am investigating getting a printer for my artistic child. I have watched a lot of videos on this topic. All of them were informative, but not one gave me the kind of real world answers I had been looking for. Thank you so much for making this.
Enjoyed this video. Gave up on my 3D printer several years ago because I was ripping my hair out with problems. Now have a Bambu Labs, best decision I ever made.
The key to getting people to like the 3d printed gifts is to give their kids loud annoying objects. Parents love that. I learned a trick for more strength in z. Add 2mm through holes, add 1/16th tig rod into the holes, add drop of CA glue. Makes a much stronger part.
Its unfortunate matt was so put off in the early days. The prusa i3 mk3 was drop dead reliable all the way back in 2018, my team down at nasa AMES used several to build prototype partd...but i guess the bambu is another step up from that
Prusa was reliable but Bambu is the first truly "fire and forget" printer. I never have to worry about my prints, i don't even have to watch the first layer to make sure it does it right. It just works.
With Bambu and Bambu filament you CAN actually throw a 3d model at it and a perfect copy comes out... a couple of filament types aside, but their products truly are pretty amazing.
Welcome to the fabulous world of 3D printing. Did you know, you can use your printed PLA parts as models for sand casting? And that there is a filament suitable for lost wax casting? You're welcome!
Back in 2016 someone told me don’t buy cheap printer buy a prusa and did 8 year later (with an upgrade kit) still printers with less failure then I can count that wasn’t my failure.
I've had an X1C for about a year and one of the best things is the way the support material comes off so easily. Even out of long 3mm holes. With my other printers I would avoid supports wherever possible. With the Bambu, they print so fast and come away so easily, that I don't think twice about using them and just print in the optimal orientation.
Prusa kid here🙋♂️ Love the video @Matt! The 3d-printed-solutions-all-over-your-place-part is really true haha😅😂 as well as the your-mind-spits-out-ideas-faster-than-your-printer-can-problem 🥳 been in love with Prusa for a couple of years now. initially I used it mainly for architectural models - but not anymore😂 I seriously got sucked in.
3D printers are such an incredibly useful tool I couldn't imagine not having one anymore. From jigs and fixtures, to brackets, and even end use parts (I run a partially 3D printing intake manifold as an example) they are a critical tool nowadays.
For a small section of the population. Most people have little to no use for it. If your hobby aligns with their use case then they are the best thing ever, if it doesn't then it is no more than a cool little toy that gathers dust. REMEMBER you are not the archetypal person and your collection of experience is not the experience that everybody has in life.
@@thomgizziz well yeah, I think that goes without saying. Heck many people probably barely even have a hammer and a screwdriver, let alone the need for a 3D printer. My comment was in context of this video and people similar to Matt. I figured that would have been obvious but evidently not.
A lot of the 3D GunCAD guys love Bambu printers since they can do nylon pretty well out of the box (for 3D printed firearms, PLA+ (good) or Filled Nylon (best) are the only real choices, PETG *will* fracture).
As an original Printrbot user, this video was so on point. I ended up getting an A1 today during the black friday sale. Exciting to be making car parts again!
100% agreed with all of this. Mates of mine were early adopters and it seemed like they spent so much time messing with settings. I wanted a tool, not another hobby. Got my Bambu labs P1S this year and was blown away by how well it just works. It’s finally a consumer product and I love it.
I bought my first 3d printer 10 years ago. I've had no less than 10 printers since then. I got my first bambulabs printer last year, and for the first time in 10 years my answer to the question "what printer should I buy" is no longer "dont" .
@@israelcontreras5332Yeah, typically I agree. But I'm not even talking about their expensive printers. My first BBL printer was the a1(full size not mini) and it was a game changer. When they recalled the a1 I needed a printer and got the x1c. The a1 is better for 90% of people and so much cheaper. I don't like being a fan boy, but this is one those cases where the hype is 100% real.
I would highly recommend giving TPU (thermoplastic polyurethane) filament a shot. I slept on it for a long time and its shocking how useful rubbery prints winded up being.
Yeah, came here to say this but saw it on the list. Not sure how useful it is for car parts, but I print all the soft mounts for race drone parts and those TPU prints are incredible. Camera mounts, antenna mounts, flip sticks. I’ll hit trees at 60+mph and the carbon fiber arms will break before the TPU prints. TPU-HF has changed my life recently! Even on an X1C TPU is kind of finicky to print, but the high flow filaments are perfect out of the box and I can push them about 2x faster and get higher quality. Haven’t seen any drop in durability this race season
i started with an ender 3 v2 to get into the hobby and messed around with it for a few years, spent a bunch of money on upgrades, and still never was able to get a repeatable, dimensionally accurate, and reliable print. I never even tried prints bigger than my fist. I just got a Bambu A1 on Saturday and OH MY GOD I can't believe I waited this long to get a decent printer. First print from the box right after setup, 8.5 hours, articulating panda in 3 colors with the AMS unit. printed on ludicrous speed, no defects AT ALL. no prep, no fuss, literally never even did anything other than calibrating and pressing print. it hasnt stopped printing since. the only issue i have is with TPU, the AMS doesnt load it very well into the extruder head. i had to pull the PTFE tube out and manually feed the filament into the extruder gear. i use solidworks in my job frequently and am very good with it, now im getting good with fusion 360. theres a lot of settings you can tweak to make it mimic soildworks closely. my choice of filament is the cheap stuff - creality brand, overture, and hatchbox. amolen is garbage
I’m thinking about getting an A1 mini. My ender 3 V2 straight up won’t print things now. It either gets the hot end clogged, doesn’t adhere to the bed well, or the prints just look terrible. I’ve seen nothing but actual good results from the A1 mini and the ender 3 always seems to need tons of mods to get an ok print.
@@caboose6411same experience. my extruder gears constantly stripped which caused clogs and ground up feed filament. I switched to a direct drive extruder, modified the hot end, bimetal hotend, hardened nozzles, bed leveler, harispray was not optional for adhesion... the bambu is such a huge upgrade
When you own a shitbox you learn a lot about cars just by fixing them, and the same goes for printers. Ender 3's suck, I've got one and it prints reliably but just ugly. I need a bambu printer.
All I had to do was upgrade my Ender 3 pro's Heatbreak, controller board, convert it to direct drive, switch it to Klipper, install a CR Touch, and tune pretty much every variable. I imagine it's still nowhere near as good as an A1. I may pick up a BambuLab P1S this winter, because while I'm a nerd, I've kinda lost interest in perpetually tinkering.
Great video. I bought a printer years ago and hit all the problems you mentioned. It ended up gathering dust in a corner because I couldn't bring myself to keep proverbially beating my head against it. I didn't lose interest in 3d printing though and was really impressed by the Bambu offerings and just bought a P1S. It's a completely different animal and I love it.
This is the vid I was looking for, found today. I wanted a 3D printer 10 years ago for mass spec method dev (yes, I'm a supernerd, a mad scientist), and the prices finally settled down within the last 6 years. Got a 1968 camaro 2 years ago, and an X1C two weeks ago. Ordered a Revopoint Pop 3 Plus as well. Replacing weather-beaten parts with carbon-fiber-nylon on a 56 year old car just makes sense.
I just got rid of an old and tired Ender 3 that i bought in May of 2019. I upgraded to a Bambu P1s with the AMS. I can never go back. I love the P1s, it's awesome and well worth the money.
@@flankman9385 It just works out of the box. You don't have spend a ton of time setting it up or dialing in obscure tuning parameters. The hardware is easy to work with if things do go wrong. The AMS is a game changer and makes handling multiple filaments a complete breeze.
@@flankman9385 the AMS has allowed me to use up rolls completely. Being able to switch between materials and colors without having to really do much is awesome. Better quality prints is also a major plus. Much less tinkering and "fixing" all the time
FINALLY someone who gets WHY these machines are amazing i wanted to get into this hobby years ago but i saw people constantly complaining about how much work and upgrades you have to put into a 400$ machine just for it to work ever since i bought my bambu x1c i absolutely hit the ground running with it making replacement parts for machines, measuring devices, tools, decorations just anything bambu lab really brought the industry to its knees and i feel that they finally brought it from an science experiment to a real functional appliance and i wouldn't be too surprised if 30 years from now people look at these machines the same way my generation looks at microwaves
I'm a nerd and am constantly coming up with ideas and wondering why no one has... thanks for this video, looks like the printers and filament are much better than when I looked into it years ago.
SUCH AN AWESOME VIDEO! I was one of those that hated the 3D Printers of the old... the enders, while cheap, were a headache to tune and get working. Prusa much reliable, but still a looooot of tinkering involved. I have heard Bambulabs changed the whole landscape! Thank you Matt for this fantastic video!! Love from Kuala Lumpur!
the newer Ender 3 V3's work out of the Box aswell and are really good honestly (especially because the SE is avaible for 100$ sometimes), but yeah if you can afford a Bambu the A1 is a no brainer
15:04 You bending that part finally convinced me 3D printing can be useful in the real world. When I think 3D printing, I think of someone spending hours modeling and printing a small plastic part, then at the first sign of strain it makes that crunchy PLA sound and breaks at every layer line. Being able to make "real" parts out material like PA6-GF is a exciting thought.
@@honkhonk8009 I guess I'm thinking of the ultra low cost hobbyist quality 3D prints with minimum infill. The point of the video still rings true though, with a quality printer even PLA can be useful.
As someone who has had a very similar experience to yours, I really appreciate your approach to this video. You didn't pull any punches when it comes to the reality of where 3D printing was, what it's become, and where it's going. I too print about 95% practical parts for various tasks or jobs in my machine shop. I always have PPA-CF on hand, but my go to for basic day to day items is ABS. I spent my first year on an Ender V2 before buying an X1C. Looking back, I have no idea how I ever printed anything successful at all (not repeatedly at least.) Great video Matt.
Ive been printing guns for a few years, pretty fun. one of the things that really helped printing get out of being a niche hobby was 3d printed gun guys talking to filament manufacturers and getting some really nice strong filaments out there
It's kind of fun taking a 3D printer and getting it to work right. In hindsight, though, I would have rather have bucked up and bought a bamboo lab unit and have my time and money back.
Bambo labs printers are amazing. My company bought a bambo labs just before I left for a job where I would not be designing anything anymore and I have swore to buy one when it’s time. I think this video is a sign. Thank you.
This is exactly what I am looking to do. I found this video to be HIGHLY valuable. I've been holding out for the longest time for quality printers and scanners. Looks like now is the time.
Humidity in the air is a big factor sometimes. People in dry climates don't know the struggle. I have a dehumidifier box which stays at about 15% and stops most problems.
I litterally in rainy ahh vancouver and left my filament outside for awhile. It still prints pretty good on my ender 3. Either Ender 3's are insanely good printers, or yall just doing it wrong.
There is a guy with an early 70's GM car that laser scanned a rusted portion of an inner fender bottom, made a couple of stamping dies and used a press to make a repair section from sheet metal.
I pay absolutely zero care in the world for sponsorships but I recognise a great tool when I see one. I work in a workshop and we used old and donated 3D printers for a few years until we did a pledge drive to get the X1 Carbon. It absolutely kicks ass. So much so we bought a second one. They seem very solid machines.
The experience with Polycarbonate being easier than expected is because the common PC filaments (Polymaker, Prusa, etc.) are low warp/low temp blends, that are much more easily printable, but suffer in stiffness, creep, but most importantly temperature resistance (80-90°). These "entry level" PC filaments are only very marginally better than ABS, sometimes worse in some regards. True PC, like 3DXTech, Gizmodorks and others is not at all easily printable, it requires a 120°+ heated chamber (Celsius, not Fahrenheit). This is the downside of much better properties, both mechanical and thermal
I had to laugh when you said you're not additively manufacturing, but 3/4 of the things you immediately mention afterwards are some of the most common uses of additive manufacturing. Some real world examples: additively manufactured injectors in aircraft engines (actual parts), additively manufactured molds for Invisalign (fixtures and molds), additively manufactured looks-like feels-like prototypes (prototypes). I've also seen plastic additively manufactured tools for aiding in installing massive loadcells on test stands. Either way, you're definitely using AM.
3D printing has had a place in my shop for some time, from parts and adapters, to drilling templates for making trigger wheels out of harmonic balances.
Thank you! Your principle resonates with me. I had x3 3D printers from which I've quickly rid off one of them because it wasn't a printer, it was an experiment. Beyond that, I can buy so many brand and versions of those troublesome items, if anything goes wrong, the warranty is worth nothing. You are the one who need to diagnose-beg-wait-and replace whatever was faulty (that is about the meaning of warranty...) This clip was very informative! And if you are lucky, the part is coming with a decent courier from the far East destination and you don't need to wait 4-5 weeks to arrive...
Thought I signed up for a video of Matt talking about 3D printers, instead I got a full teaser of progress made on the land speed car that hadn't made it into the videos.
I’ve had an ender for years, I love it but I always joked with people thinking about getting into printing that it is actually 2 hobbies, printing things and tinkering with your printer between each print. But I just got a p1s from bambu labs and it prints straight out of the box, no warping issues, minimal maintenance, and it prints fast! It is a game changer for my productivity and the parts always come out amazing!
I bought my first 3D printer 9 years ago, it did OK printing PLA. I spent some time tinkering with it (I'm a nerd) but was never super happy with it. I bought another one which was much more precise, but it failed when I tried to make the jump to PETG and NinjaFlex. The printers basically just took up shelf space for a few years. This year I decided it was time to pick the hobby up again so I bought a Bambu Lab P1S -- it worked right out of the box and has been chugging along for months now. I ended up buying another one. I put hardened gears and nozzles in them and now I'm ready for just about anything. The Bambu Lab machines are appliances. They just work. If you know nothing about 3D printers, you can be up and running in 1/2 an hour.
I don't care for Bamboo Labs as a company, but i will admit they make a fantastic machine... that they developed off the hard work of an open source community... that they don't contribute back to. That they don't jive with the values of. And that you can't fix without thier parts unlike the systems they built thier products off of.
The whole "they took from the community" is so overblown and ridiculous. That's like complaining that every 3d printer that isn't open source (Prusas xl isn't btw, not yet at least) is stealing from the community. Its something you never really heard before Bambulab came along with an actually convenient machine.
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They won't get my support purely for the fact they're from China. Time to put some brakes on this China dominance.
They improved printers upon the open source community so much that they deserve to be able to monopolize their own design at this point. It was truly a giant leap.
Sure. They can make money off what they developed. Free Open Source doesn't mean unmonetized. And their (premium line) products are great. But you won't see me supporting Bamboo in particular for it. Not when their slicer is just a buggy fork of Prusa Slic3r with a coat of paint. When their firmware is not openly available. When they are corporate enough and a big enough threat that Stratasys is actually going to do something about them. While Stratasys could have acted against the open source community or Prusa or Ender or Form Labs for the same patents years ago. And I dunno where the idea that this is the first easy 3D printer came from. There's a reason that the print farms run Prusas. They've been easy. For the decade that Matt has stayed out of the game. I'm also the sort that spends more to buy American first, refuses to give Nike money based on how they behave internationally, and considers how much packaging/garbage a thing generates as heavily as price. I'm not the average customer and probably am a bit hipster. Grain of salt and whatnot.
Received my first 3D printer at the beginning of this year with the intention of designing and making my own parts. Now, I have 3 printers with my first one being delegated to printing TPU only, another one is mainly ASA and the last one is for PLA only for rapid prototyping. So far, I've designed and made a pedal spacer, a clutch pedal stopper made out of 95A TPU, an intake coupler, etc. I've said it before to others but NOW is a good time to get into 3D printing. I, myself, have been waiting for a long LONG time for 3D printing to get to this point so I can get into it. Years ago, it was as complicated as you said. Just wasn't a good time for a normal person like me to get into the hobby. But now that I am, I'm addicted!
i wanted some sort of printer since reading about them in pop mechanics probably near 20 years ago. got one a few years ago, and printer has absolutely become my most used tool in the shop. great for lost wax, odd and end connectors, mouldings for aluminum channel, bespoke shrouds for electronics, and car parts for cars that haven't been manufactured in 40 years. i have a relatively cheap one (vyper, fitting in name for this channels recent projects), so i definitely had a bit more learning curving to do.
This is said truly like someone who hasn't experienced the fun of untested featureson other printers. A Kobra 3 for instance is going to have a bunch of "quirks" even if on paper it spec matches.
Cheap? Yes. Reliable? Maybe. Consumer friendly? Probably not. Bambulab printers are truly plug and play no nonsense designed to be a tool printers. Prusa is just your average bedslinger but with perfect quality control and reliability, but you still need to do everything else.
"Maker" is like calling simple solutions "Hacks" or working for tips a" Gig", a hobby is not a "hustle". CAD is Hard and my cheap Printer is sooo slow. 🤬 yes I'm the angry old dude.
New sub here, have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed this video. My takeaway is I need to upgrade to a Bamboo and stop fiddling and crossing my fingers with my "crappy printer" lol.
3D printer has been the best tool i've ever bought. Last project was a turn table for acrylic pour and frameholder for the canvas with four feet that can be adjusted in height. The turntable also can be levelled. Custom organizers is also one of the strong points, anything that is very bespoke. It just has become part of my life, if i need a trinket or a bracket, i model it and print it. Handles for DIY tools, sanding blocks that are custom made for just one curve... The amount of things that can be done is WAY more than you think. It most likely also is less than you think, since they are not replicators and there are limitations but.. It is one of those things that many think are just for stupid trinkets without realizing how many things are suddenly possible.
iv been printing over 10 years now. this is a 100 percent acurate. i got great results from my printers for a long time because i tweeked it loads! i now run Bambu printers and i can just print stuff that works!!!
I laughed entirely too hard at some of those jokes. Fantastic sense of humor and I loved it, because it's true. You don't think it'll be you printing those things, until it is.
You are 100% correct. Bought first 3d printer a couple years ago and it was a constant headache constant “tinkering”. Finally bought a Bambu Labs P1S and in one day had more successful prints than the old Ender3 ever had 😂
Buy a Bambu Lab 3D printer, ya nerd: shrsl.com/4ohr9
Do you still have to register via an app to get the printer working?
And are log files still absolutely massive and encrypted, so you don’t know what informtion is drained from your computer and sent to a foreign company/nation?
best episode yet LOVE IT ( i m one of the 3d printing nerds ender 3 guy )🙂
I think I'll continue VORON development instead and keep pushing Bambu to make better machines :D
@@mr_voronVoron is so over hyped. Its not that I hate them, they're fine, but hate that they take the spotlight from other open source printers that have more innovation than them.
Also there is a really culty feeling to voron whereas the others just feel like dudes having fun breaking limits. Ratrig, Vezbots, the rook and more. So many others.
Anyhow? personally I'll keep loving my 2 year old X1C. Made printing no longer a chore. I no longer have to know so much about klipper.
@@Traitorman..Proverbs26.11 LAN-only mode is possible with the P1 and X1. Not sure about the A1.
That oversize coin was totally ridiculous. Love it.
That got me, lol!
I damn near did a spit take from my amazement. Lol. Got me .
Cant lie he got me with that one 😂 i was thinking "whoa that thing is tiny! Oh... Still small though '
Was it 3d printed?
The digital zoom effect was spot on :D
I'm the guy that created Gridfinity, and mentioning it BEFORE vases is the nicest thing anyone's ever said about it.
This guy creates, after some healthy procrastination, then creates some more!
I love this lmao
Your there even at 22:20 onwards
What are you doing here Zach, get back to work.
You didnt create gridfinity lmao, you upgraded the previous version without crediting the previous ideas author.
I think that was the highest amount of emotion Matt has ever shown on camera
Could it be because this is the highest amount he's been paid by a sponsor?
He shows emotion every video, you just have to be the kind of person that has twenty projects going on at once to see it
@@canadaplease7981 Doubtful considering he contacted them first and bought one before they sponsored.
@@canadaplease7981or maybe because he genuinely likes his printer that he has had for 2 years?
@@canadaplease7981 The Bambu printer is still just an amazing printer. Well worth the hype. Also hes not gushing over the specific printer, hes gushing about printing in general. There are many options out there.
3D Printing Nerd here, and my dude, no rolling eyes. It's absolutely wonderful to see how far it's come and how USEFUL it is for you!
I Just subscribed to you because of this comment.
Joel- the ultimate 3d printing nerd!! love it!
Fellow engineer here, you summarized how far 3D printing has come perfectly. About 10 years ago, I was one of those nerds that had to constantly fiddle with my printer and it was more of a hobby and less of a tool. The printer I have now is the exact opposite of that, it’s purely a tool
LoL I'm one of those still printing with a 2017 Prusa MK2S with all the same original parts except changing out the nozzles every couple of years. Never fiddled with anything. Its been printing ABS Mustang parts and 1 Meter RC boat hulls for going on to close to a decade now. It also prints shafts and gears for the gearboxes for my RC ships - they spin at 10,000 rpms so the quality was there 7 years ago and it still is. I am looking for a second printer now and seeing nothing new really except higher print speeds and more idiot sensors. What printer do you have now? I'm looking to get a second one now and looking at Bambu Lab A1 and P1S, I want to try one but worried about the MTBF, I just want another 7 years of trouble free, repair free printing with the new machine, I'm sure the MK2S will be around in another 7 years.
@@MinionAtTheGate I'm curious too! Please add me in the reply!
I did the same. Had 4 printers and rarely was more than one operational at the same time while the others were being upgraded or repaired. It got old. Very old. Buying a Bambu P1S with AMS and getting out of the upgrading and fiddling with. business was my best decision ever.
I’ve without a doubt poured well over $1000 into the first printer I got in 2013. It’s got to the point where there’s 2% of the original left. Oh and it still barely works 😅
Gib new video, lazy man
@@titosyettos2689 This guy spends a few months on a video thatd take most people a year and you call him lazy
Hurry up and put a W12 engine in the Fiero. >:(
I'd started at around that same time with a rep-rap, and at some point around 2021 I decided I was tired of always having to fix and tweak the printer before using it. I just ponied up for a prusa, which while expensive probably saved me money overall. Plus, I've been able to actually make things which is a lot more fun than constantly fixing the printer.
Get a Bambu and then experience the joy of (nearly) flawless 3d printing without needing to be into 3d printing. I now choose to muck around and try things with my ender, but i make parts on my bambu.
Woah black betty, bambu lab
LoL whelp this is never going to leave my brain.
Damn thing gone wild :)
What a terrible day to read Super Fast Matt comments. I sure hope I can not have this stuck in my head.
@@lavachemist you know you cant get away from this guys genius comment
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Proud 3D printing nerd here, I’m glad people can finally use this tech us nerds have been enjoying and slowly improving for years without rat holing into yet another hobby.
I’m jealous of people who are smart enough to actually use computerised thingies. I’m not and I can’t get my head around them. Oh well.🤷
@@davidcat1455 they are getting really close to being as easy as any kitchen gadget.
It always makes me really happy 3d printing nerds were more like "Lets make this super amazing tech better not just so it does cooler things but also so more people can experience how awesome and useful this can be!" Rather than people going "Nyoooo this is my niche of my niche hobby you cannot know my secrets!"
Us nerds suffer thed endless ender problems or designing mod to make printing easier
@@davidcat1455 You just need the willingness to learn and a good teacher 🙂
This is probably the video with the most savvy and sensible suggestions I have ever watched about 3D printing. Not surprised at all that a mechanical engineer made it.
Thanks for posting!
Also, great deal with the instalment plan! 😂
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6:54 I was genuinely blown away then slapped my face and laughed
12:07 I'd recommend printing these types of test parts in a gaudy color like pink or yellow so that they don't mistakenly end up actually being used
@DJ-Sellout Haha.... that's my secret captain, my temporary test parts always end up being the main part I use until said thing fails.
My favorites for prototype parts are magenta, cyan and "coolant leak green"
@@BeefIngot There's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution.
@@JD2jr. Just ask the engineers of our infrastructure here in America!
@@BeefIngot good approach...but maybe not for the parachute release... :D
As someone who has been fixing and attempting to improve a printer from ~10 years ago, these Bambu printers are insane.
yeah, I had a story like matt's with an early open chassis printer - it was fine, but mega slow and one in five actually worked. bought a bambu last year and it's been banger after banger ever since
and a multi-color enclosed one from Bambu is $600. It's a bargain, and I'm not being sarcastic.
@@mundanestuff Seriously, my ender 5 plus was $500 in 2021, 1000+ hours later it needs a full rebuild of the bearings, rails, lead screws, and one of my z axis servos is on the way out.
@@trekkie1701e Watch out, this might give you a severe case of Theseus's printer if you're not careful.
Something to note; McMaster-Carr has a Lot of 3d models, 3D models you can import directly into CAD....I needed an electrical enclosure for a project, stores were closed, 5h later I had an enclosure. Great video!
@@SteveEh I reckon it's unlikely they're designed for printing. I personally use this though to import bearings and such
@@BeefIngotThe cheap plastic enclosures have thicker walls and chunky features that print well. Easy to modify in CAD too.
@@BeefIngot I use McMaster's STEP files a lot via Fusion360. I've actually printed simple barb fittings for one time tasks. I've also printed fasteners, pneumatic parts, etc.
This is why I love to read comments. Great tip!
And they have for a long time. 20 years ago as a drafter and design engineer, McMaster CAD files were amazing. I can only imagine it is even better now.
You are 100 percent correct. I haven’t wanted a whole new hobby just to be able to 3d print something. Maybe the time has come, thanks for the input.
Everyone who is thinking about buying a 3d printer NEEDS to watch this video. It's so very spot on. -3D Printing Nerd
The first minute and a half spoke to my soul. I’ve been saying it for years, ever since I got my first printer. 3d printing IS the hobby. People 3D print shit because they like playing with 3d printers. I got my printer to print useful things to support my other hobbies, not to be the main hobby. I’m so happy to see the industry finally moving in a meaningful direction.
I wait for 10 years to just buy my first printer a month ago. Like the video, I want to build tools and parts, not a printer.
Model engineers have the same attitude; I mentioned on a forum that standing at a machine carving off metal by twiddling handles is not a mystical process, but tedious work and was told that I should get another hobby. But those hobbies were the reason I bought the lathe in the first place, not to produce pretty piles of swarf or to make tools for the lathe.
Yes, but also ... I've designed and made loads of awesome/useful stuff too.
You can do both, enjoy printers and print functional car parts. But i agree that its nice that you can choose what you want now, rather than being forced into learning about printers just because you want to print the odd bracket here and there, or a bushing, or gaskets and stuff.
I print stuff for my electronics hobbies all the time and I fiddle with my printers as yet another fun thing to do. Really depends on what you want to do.
ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
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The most amazing takeaway from this is, the Bambu X1 Carbon shown in this video costs US$1200... which is only slightly more what I paid for my Prusa Mendel kit back in 2012, which was a box full of 3D printed parts, stainless steel threaded rod, and an Arduino. I still use that machine, and I'm not ashamed to say that yes - from day one the printer itself was the hobby.
I paid like $200 for my ender 3 and theres been like zero problems with it at all
This video is extremely helpful for people like me, who have been wary about jumping into 3D printing for too many years.
Be glad you avoided all the headaches, me not knowing went though all the mire of it just not working and just trying to get it to work
I read the title and at first glance I thought it said “It’s finally time to put your 3D printer in the garbage” I am happy to report that the title was NOT as I thought 😂! Amazing video!
You forgot to mention that you can sell $3 worth of filament for $19.95...
I see what you did there.
FALSE it's only 97¢ worth of filament! and i think he also glues it together idk
@1htalp9 Printer companies really make so much money on filament. If only pellet printers weren't.... a massive pain and ridiculously expensive.
@@BeefIngotbuying pellets in smaller amounts isn't that much cheaper. Like the shops that sell them for pellet printers typically charge for pla like 5 to 10 bucks a kilo and you can buy filament now for 10 bucks a kilo.
The users with the decent expensive pellet extruders tend to just care more about the filament not running out or needing changing than anything else. And not having to splice together 80% used 10 kilo rolls of 3mm filament.
Really a lot of the expense is just in the logistics chains as it is for filament as filament.
@@lassikinnunen My understanding is that it's much cheaper than that. I also see 10 dollars a spool as some mystical bulk purchase with local supplier type pricing.
Can't wait for all the accusations of being a fanboy to roll in, but 3D printing has reached its current capabilities because of Prusa. Bambu's are great too, I use them alongside Prusas at work to prototype for injection molding. But Prusa absolutely laid the groundwork for both hardware and software, and Bambu built on the development Prusa made. I think Voron also deserves some credit here for laying the groundwork on CoreXY. Bambu did an excellent job of ramping up print speed and making a very user friendly printer and an excellent multi material system, but they built on previous work. I just want to be sure that the incredible hard work people put into open source hardware and software projects like Prusa and Voron gets the recognition it deserves, since printers like Bambu wouldn't exist without it.
But in general, 3D printers were terrible 10 years ago, and are indespensible and reliable tools now. I literally couldn't do my job without them.
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I don't like Bambus, but I don't own one, only worked with them, and I'm used to tinkering on my own printers. They're great for people like Matt who want something that will work 99% of time tho. There are better printers out there (Voron etc) but the time investement to build and/or tune them is not worth it for most people I think.
Also I haven't quite finished the video, but for stiffer/higher heat resistance random geometry parts you can 3D print molds and make forged carbon parts using them
I agree Prusa laid the groundwork and their contribution can not be overlooked. We simply would not have the great printer choices we have today without Prusa. We owe them a ton.
But when Bambu first brought out the X1C, it really was a game changer. Sure, some custom tweaked printer could equal and potentially outperform the Bambu, but it was just so easy to get stuff done. This is one of the cases where that last 10% of efforr has really paid off.
I'm just sad that Prusa couldn't have been the company that made the "easy button" for printing.
God this myth about Vorons is so frustrating. Anyone with eyes can see there are 100s of core xys that Bambulab printers are closer to than Vorons. Things like simple cube, ratrig and vez3d have done just as much if not more and earlier in some cases than voron and people give them all the praise because they're more well known.
A big part of what make Bambu printers good and cost efficient is that they aren't at all built like Vorons. They're build like computer cases which let's them do a lot of automation and use less parts.
As for Prusa and laying the ground work, gimme a break.
Prusa slicer is open source not because prusa is kind but because they had to as its based on GPL3 code from slic3r, super slicer, cura, and even Bambu studio.
The ENTIRE point of the GPL3 is that you got free work and must therefore pass that on as well, and Bambulab has completely honored that spirit.
Technically, Prusa would have never made printers if not for the rep rap project, so all credit really should go to them. Without them, Stratasys would still have the market cornered and printers would still be relegated to prototyping divisions of large manufacturers.
I am biased but: Prusa printers have been entirely plug-and-play fire-and-forget for me, would put them on the same level especially if you don't need an enclosure/ok with building an enclosure for it. Biased primarily because I like Prusa as a company for many reasons, one of them being that I used to work for them.
Also, entirely agree that the loads of new amazing filaments are gamechangers, would also quip that 90% of the useful prints I tend to print are in the single use jig-tool-spacer-mould-thingy category for which PLA or PETG are absolutely fine. As in, simple (but reliable) 3D printers are still useful garage tools.
100% confirm being good with CAD makes your printer about 10x more useful. No excuses. If you have one, learn CAD.
The moment that bambu got rid of manual z offset they changed the game.
This. All of it. Especially the "learn some modeling", part. I quickly realized that learning at LEAST a LITTLE 3D modeling is kind of a necessity. It's not that hard to do, either. I bought my printer for one thing and one thing only, though...😁
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The reliability of my Mk3 went down considerably when I installed the MMU2 on it, but once I took that off it went back up to being 90%+ "push button, bet thing." And that's a printer that came out over 6 years ago at this point.
Bambu printers are good. Great, even. But to confidently state (as Matt did) that they are "kind of [the] only one" that satisfies the "reliable, capable, consumer 3D printer that mostly just works" condition shows a fundamental lack of awareness of the 3D printing space. We've been spoiled for choice in that regard for years at this point.
@@rmp5s - printing a benchy?
I really like your aproach and perspective on 3D printing! I was also for a long time avoiding 3d printing, because it was a hobby for nerds, who would make stupid things. When Bambulab came out, I realized, that finally there is a solid 3d printer that can do complex things easily in contrast to other 3d printing brands / printers.
I'm sure tons of people will say this kind of thing, but my creality K1 has been flawless out of the box. I am a mechanical designer and this has been an invaluable prototyping and production tool. Zero fiddling, zero issues. Almost a year in and It just works (so far anyway).
all I just need a garage, and I can put my 3D printer in the garage
Print a garage
All I need is a house, then a garage, then a printer
@@enb3810 i need some shoes, new socks, health insurance, a house, i guess a garage. Maybe one day a printer
Coming from an ender 3 pro to a Bambu P1S, I can confirm that it’s a world of a difference. The Bambu printer is an amazing machine.
Same here! I've never been able to print more than two things in a row without serious issues with the Ender. This machine gets as close to set it and forget it as possible.
Similar for me, Ender 3 Max to a Qidi Q1 and all of a sudden I don't have to babysit every print or worry about moving it and ruining the bed level, it just works.
For almost 8-10 times the cost, it better be.
@@israelcontreras5332 Back when the Ender 3 was recommended to everyone, spending 8-10 times more wouldn't get you anywhere near these machines.
@@israelcontreras5332 Wtf are you talking about?? Without AMS its not even 3 times the price..."8-10 times..."...😒 Btw A1 mini is even cheaper then ender 3 pro and prints almost the same quality as P1S anyways so that makes your comment even more meaningless...
Great video. I had the exact same journey of 3D printing from a $200 knock-off to now a Prusa MK4. Just like the Bambu it just works every time and with a wide variety of filaments.
I am one of those nerds whos been 3d printing for years. You nailed it, spot on. The Bambu was a game changer, and while a few other machines have started to catch up, its still the best by fair! In the last 2 years of owning the Bambu I have got twice as much productive printing than I did with 5 years of multiple older machines.
I have a Bamboo A1 sitting in my basement that my wife picked up on black Friday sale for me awaiting Christmas day, can’t wait to start playing with it. I have a few other projects that I’m trying wrap up before can focus on it but in meantime collecting free print files and learning cad program so I can create my own.
I have been fabricating/building/engineering things in wood, metal, leather, and other materials for @ 25 years and I’m ok calling myself a maker.
I bought a printer in ‘16 and hated all the tweaking and time it took to make anything that looked quality. Bought a Bambu last year and was blown away by the advancements. Thanks for telling me about cf-ppa
Yea most people that hate on 3d printing got in back then probably.
I got in around 2022 with my ender 3, and it was like $200 off amazon and its been performign admirably.
Like seriously I cant break half the shit it pumps out with my bare hands, and its mostly plug and play aside from the levelling.
Just love his videos. As an engineer and nerd everything he shows here is spot on.
3D printing can be nearly as deep a hobby as being a car guy.
You nailed it with your description of how people have used 3D printers. I also have several printers but only care about using them for engineering uses. I never saw the draw to printing figurines or other trinkets.
Maybe it's those that don't print anything useful with the printer that I'm thinking. I've known a few people who have printers but couldn't model a cube in CAD so if they can't download it they don't print it. That's just such a severe limitation for what the printer can do. But yeah I would print decorations or other things if someone was paying me for sure. I guess it's been nice to see more youtube builders showing how they've used 3d printers.
I am investigating getting a printer for my artistic child. I have watched a lot of videos on this topic. All of them were informative, but not one gave me the kind of real world answers I had been looking for.
Thank you so much for making this.
Enjoyed this video. Gave up on my 3D printer several years ago because I was ripping my hair out with problems. Now have a Bambu Labs, best decision I ever made.
Petg-hf Prints really good with no effort, which is the exact amount of effort i want to put into getting good prints.
Well said
The key to getting people to like the 3d printed gifts is to give their kids loud annoying objects. Parents love that.
I learned a trick for more strength in z. Add 2mm through holes, add 1/16th tig rod into the holes, add drop of CA glue. Makes a much stronger part.
Its unfortunate matt was so put off in the early days.
The prusa i3 mk3 was drop dead reliable all the way back in 2018, my team down at nasa AMES used several to build prototype partd...but i guess the bambu is another step up from that
It is. I ran my business with prusa then got in on the x1 and down sized my farm by 50%.
Prusa was reliable but Bambu is the first truly "fire and forget" printer. I never have to worry about my prints, i don't even have to watch the first layer to make sure it does it right. It just works.
@@MrBertstare because it could print faster or what?
@@Ryukachoo because it's both faster and more reliable. It's also significantly cheaper to both buy and upgrade.
But MK3 is not enclosed out of the box. It is mandatory for those engineering filaments
As an engineer and fabricator its great to see others in a similar situation. One of the best videos I’ve seen on the topic to date.
With Bambu and Bambu filament you CAN actually throw a 3d model at it and a perfect copy comes out... a couple of filament types aside, but their products truly are pretty amazing.
Welcome to the fabulous world of 3D printing.
Did you know, you can use your printed PLA parts as models for sand casting?
And that there is a filament suitable for lost wax casting?
You're welcome!
You can also just use the pla itself as a form of lost casting, print it hollow and thin and it vaporises under most molten metals
@@Volt64bolt I know, I know - I just want to get Matt to buy more filament he will hardly use. I want him to share our pain :P
Joseph Prusa would like a word...
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Prusa a printer for 3d printer hobbyists not for those that don’t want their printer to be their hobby
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Back in 2016 someone told me don’t buy cheap printer buy a prusa and did 8 year later (with an upgrade kit) still printers with less failure then I can count that wasn’t my failure.
I've had an X1C for about a year and one of the best things is the way the support material comes off so easily. Even out of long 3mm holes. With my other printers I would avoid supports wherever possible. With the Bambu, they print so fast and come away so easily, that I don't think twice about using them and just print in the optimal orientation.
Had all three of mine in my Florida garage for over 5 years now. Had a few issues at first but after a few weeks I got it figured out.
Prusa kid here🙋♂️ Love the video @Matt! The 3d-printed-solutions-all-over-your-place-part is really true haha😅😂 as well as the your-mind-spits-out-ideas-faster-than-your-printer-can-problem 🥳 been in love with Prusa for a couple of years now. initially I used it mainly for architectural models - but not anymore😂 I seriously got sucked in.
well done on the call outs to the OG printing nerds! I watch them all!
3D printers are such an incredibly useful tool I couldn't imagine not having one anymore.
From jigs and fixtures, to brackets, and even end use parts (I run a partially 3D printing intake manifold as an example) they are a critical tool nowadays.
For a small section of the population. Most people have little to no use for it. If your hobby aligns with their use case then they are the best thing ever, if it doesn't then it is no more than a cool little toy that gathers dust. REMEMBER you are not the archetypal person and your collection of experience is not the experience that everybody has in life.
@@thomgizziz well yeah, I think that goes without saying. Heck many people probably barely even have a hammer and a screwdriver, let alone the need for a 3D printer.
My comment was in context of this video and people similar to Matt. I figured that would have been obvious but evidently not.
A lot of the 3D GunCAD guys love Bambu printers since they can do nylon pretty well out of the box (for 3D printed firearms, PLA+ (good) or Filled Nylon (best) are the only real choices, PETG *will* fracture).
If you or a loved one has taken an interest in 3d printing, please direct them to the gatalog for all their 3D2A needs.
Thank you so much for not calling it fosscad. It's absurd they've taken over that name as it's not FOSS but just guns.
@@milolc 3d2a hell yeah
As an original Printrbot user, this video was so on point. I ended up getting an A1 today during the black friday sale. Exciting to be making car parts again!
100% agreed with all of this. Mates of mine were early adopters and it seemed like they spent so much time messing with settings.
I wanted a tool, not another hobby. Got my Bambu labs P1S this year and was blown away by how well it just works. It’s finally a consumer product and I love it.
I bought my first 3d printer 10 years ago. I've had no less than 10 printers since then. I got my first bambulabs printer last year, and for the first time in 10 years my answer to the question "what printer should I buy" is no longer "dont" .
Yeah...I have heard that way too many times before to spend $1,000 + on something just to find out it isn't true.
@@israelcontreras5332Yeah, typically I agree. But I'm not even talking about their expensive printers. My first BBL printer was the a1(full size not mini) and it was a game changer. When they recalled the a1 I needed a printer and got the x1c. The a1 is better for 90% of people and so much cheaper. I don't like being a fan boy, but this is one those cases where the hype is 100% real.
I would highly recommend giving TPU (thermoplastic polyurethane) filament a shot. I slept on it for a long time and its shocking how useful rubbery prints winded up being.
He listed 95A TPU as ones he uses
Yeah, came here to say this but saw it on the list. Not sure how useful it is for car parts, but I print all the soft mounts for race drone parts and those TPU prints are incredible. Camera mounts, antenna mounts, flip sticks. I’ll hit trees at 60+mph and the carbon fiber arms will break before the TPU prints.
TPU-HF has changed my life recently! Even on an X1C TPU is kind of finicky to print, but the high flow filaments are perfect out of the box and I can push them about 2x faster and get higher quality. Haven’t seen any drop in durability this race season
i started with an ender 3 v2 to get into the hobby and messed around with it for a few years, spent a bunch of money on upgrades, and still never was able to get a repeatable, dimensionally accurate, and reliable print. I never even tried prints bigger than my fist. I just got a Bambu A1 on Saturday and OH MY GOD I can't believe I waited this long to get a decent printer. First print from the box right after setup, 8.5 hours, articulating panda in 3 colors with the AMS unit. printed on ludicrous speed, no defects AT ALL. no prep, no fuss, literally never even did anything other than calibrating and pressing print. it hasnt stopped printing since. the only issue i have is with TPU, the AMS doesnt load it very well into the extruder head. i had to pull the PTFE tube out and manually feed the filament into the extruder gear. i use solidworks in my job frequently and am very good with it, now im getting good with fusion 360. theres a lot of settings you can tweak to make it mimic soildworks closely. my choice of filament is the cheap stuff - creality brand, overture, and hatchbox. amolen is garbage
I’m thinking about getting an A1 mini. My ender 3 V2 straight up won’t print things now. It either gets the hot end clogged, doesn’t adhere to the bed well, or the prints just look terrible. I’ve seen nothing but actual good results from the A1 mini and the ender 3 always seems to need tons of mods to get an ok print.
@@caboose6411same experience. my extruder gears constantly stripped which caused clogs and ground up feed filament. I switched to a direct drive extruder, modified the hot end, bimetal hotend, hardened nozzles, bed leveler, harispray was not optional for adhesion... the bambu is such a huge upgrade
When you own a shitbox you learn a lot about cars just by fixing them, and the same goes for printers. Ender 3's suck, I've got one and it prints reliably but just ugly. I need a bambu printer.
All I had to do was upgrade my Ender 3 pro's Heatbreak, controller board, convert it to direct drive, switch it to Klipper, install a CR Touch, and tune pretty much every variable. I imagine it's still nowhere near as good as an A1.
I may pick up a BambuLab P1S this winter, because while I'm a nerd, I've kinda lost interest in perpetually tinkering.
@@JosephHalder haha i did all those things and more. tried dozens of slicer profiles, multiple different slices, still couldnt get good prints
Great video. I bought a printer years ago and hit all the problems you mentioned. It ended up gathering dust in a corner because I couldn't bring myself to keep proverbially beating my head against it. I didn't lose interest in 3d printing though and was really impressed by the Bambu offerings and just bought a P1S. It's a completely different animal and I love it.
This is the vid I was looking for, found today. I wanted a 3D printer 10 years ago for mass spec method dev (yes, I'm a supernerd, a mad scientist), and the prices finally settled down within the last 6 years. Got a 1968 camaro 2 years ago, and an X1C two weeks ago. Ordered a Revopoint Pop 3 Plus as well. Replacing weather-beaten parts with carbon-fiber-nylon on a 56 year old car just makes sense.
I just got rid of an old and tired Ender 3 that i bought in May of 2019. I upgraded to a Bambu P1s with the AMS. I can never go back. I love the P1s, it's awesome and well worth the money.
The AMS is amazing. Once you use it, you never want a printer with out it again.
@@JQLSpec except mine is having issues right now, but i already know how to fix it lol.
Well worth the money in what way?
@@flankman9385 It just works out of the box. You don't have spend a ton of time setting it up or dialing in obscure tuning parameters. The hardware is easy to work with if things do go wrong.
The AMS is a game changer and makes handling multiple filaments a complete breeze.
@@flankman9385 the AMS has allowed me to use up rolls completely. Being able to switch between materials and colors without having to really do much is awesome. Better quality prints is also a major plus. Much less tinkering and "fixing" all the time
3D printers are also great for electronics design because you can create mockups of board shapes and see how they interact with their case.
FINALLY someone who gets WHY these machines are amazing
i wanted to get into this hobby years ago but i saw people constantly complaining about how much work and upgrades you have to put into a 400$ machine just for it to work
ever since i bought my bambu x1c i absolutely hit the ground running with it making replacement parts for machines, measuring devices, tools, decorations just anything
bambu lab really brought the industry to its knees and i feel that they finally brought it from an science experiment to a real functional appliance and i wouldn't be too surprised if 30 years from now people look at these machines the same way my generation looks at microwaves
I bought an Anet A8 back in like 2015 for ninety dollars. Still kicks ass
I'm a nerd and am constantly coming up with ideas and wondering why no one has... thanks for this video, looks like the printers and filament are much better than when I looked into it years ago.
SUCH AN AWESOME VIDEO! I was one of those that hated the 3D Printers of the old... the enders, while cheap, were a headache to tune and get working. Prusa much reliable, but still a looooot of tinkering involved. I have heard Bambulabs changed the whole landscape! Thank you Matt for this fantastic video!! Love from Kuala Lumpur!
the newer Ender 3 V3's work out of the Box aswell and are really good honestly (especially because the SE is avaible for 100$ sometimes), but yeah if you can afford a Bambu the A1 is a no brainer
15:04 You bending that part finally convinced me 3D printing can be useful in the real world. When I think 3D printing, I think of someone spending hours modeling and printing a small plastic part, then at the first sign of strain it makes that crunchy PLA sound and breaks at every layer line. Being able to make "real" parts out material like PA6-GF is a exciting thought.
I thought that too but seriously try printing out some cheap ass PLA and try to snap it with your bare hands.
YOU LITTERALLY CANT.
@@honkhonk8009 I guess I'm thinking of the ultra low cost hobbyist quality 3D prints with minimum infill. The point of the video still rings true though, with a quality printer even PLA can be useful.
This seems to be the best video regarding 3D printing in product development. In a world of people printing dumb trinkets, this is really helpful!
20:05 that napoleon dynamite scene when Kip backs over the tupperware.
I can hear his voice…”dannnngit”
I read that they didn't expect the bowl to explode but they just went with it😂
@@ultraneight the “dang it” is far more powerful knowing it was improvised
As someone who has had a very similar experience to yours, I really appreciate your approach to this video. You didn't pull any punches when it comes to the reality of where 3D printing was, what it's become, and where it's going. I too print about 95% practical parts for various tasks or jobs in my machine shop. I always have PPA-CF on hand, but my go to for basic day to day items is ABS. I spent my first year on an Ender V2 before buying an X1C. Looking back, I have no idea how I ever printed anything successful at all (not repeatedly at least.) Great video Matt.
Ive been printing guns for a few years, pretty fun. one of the things that really helped printing get out of being a niche hobby was 3d printed gun guys talking to filament manufacturers and getting some really nice strong filaments out there
As a 10 year 3d printer hobbyist, thank you for this video.
remember how replicator 1 was supposed to "just work" lol.. "dissolvable supports soon" should've just bought a reprap kit and saved the money..
@@lasskinn474 I should have stayed away from that k8200 I found at Fry's electronics and just bought a reprap
It's kind of fun taking a 3D printer and getting it to work right. In hindsight, though, I would have rather have bucked up and bought a bamboo lab unit and have my time and money back.
Bambo labs printers are amazing. My company bought a bambo labs just before I left for a job where I would not be designing anything anymore and I have swore to buy one when it’s time. I think this video is a sign. Thank you.
bro, they replaced you with the printer. Dont be that naive.
Superb. Bought one six months ago. As a Product Designer, it's now my favourite tool. I need to experiment with more materials though. Thanks
This is exactly what I am looking to do. I found this video to be HIGHLY valuable. I've been holding out for the longest time for quality printers and scanners. Looks like now is the time.
I bought an A1 and I'm amazed at how (mostly) plug and play it is.
Just bought one as well!
Humidity in the air is a big factor sometimes. People in dry climates don't know the struggle. I have a dehumidifier box which stays at about 15% and stops most problems.
I just looked at my hygrometer and the ambient air humidity in my backyard is….8%
I litterally in rainy ahh vancouver and left my filament outside for awhile.
It still prints pretty good on my ender 3.
Either Ender 3's are insanely good printers, or yall just doing it wrong.
@@honkhonk8009 I think it's your filament that's good
@@davidbalfour3390 idk man I just used the cheapest amazon filament I could find. ESun is good I guess but I tried others and their pretty decent.
There is a guy with an early 70's GM car that laser scanned a rusted portion of an inner fender bottom, made a couple of stamping dies and used a press to make a repair section from sheet metal.
I pay absolutely zero care in the world for sponsorships but I recognise a great tool when I see one. I work in a workshop and we used old and donated 3D printers for a few years until we did a pledge drive to get the X1 Carbon. It absolutely kicks ass. So much so we bought a second one. They seem very solid machines.
For people like me, who know absolutely nothing about 3D printing, this video is a great source of information. Thanks Matt!
The experience with Polycarbonate being easier than expected is because the common PC filaments (Polymaker, Prusa, etc.) are low warp/low temp blends, that are much more easily printable, but suffer in stiffness, creep, but most importantly temperature resistance (80-90°).
These "entry level" PC filaments are only very marginally better than ABS, sometimes worse in some regards.
True PC, like 3DXTech, Gizmodorks and others is not at all easily printable, it requires a 120°+ heated chamber (Celsius, not Fahrenheit). This is the downside of much better properties, both mechanical and thermal
im not gonna lie, 5:20 hit REALLY close to home
Yeaaahh... i may have a problem. But mines are so much more personal than buy some random 100$ bullshit
I had to laugh when you said you're not additively manufacturing, but 3/4 of the things you immediately mention afterwards are some of the most common uses of additive manufacturing. Some real world examples: additively manufactured injectors in aircraft engines (actual parts), additively manufactured molds for Invisalign (fixtures and molds), additively manufactured looks-like feels-like prototypes (prototypes). I've also seen plastic additively manufactured tools for aiding in installing massive loadcells on test stands. Either way, you're definitely using AM.
3D printing has had a place in my shop for some time, from parts and adapters, to drilling templates for making trigger wheels out of harmonic balances.
Thank you! Your principle resonates with me. I had x3 3D printers from which I've quickly rid off one of them because it wasn't a printer, it was an experiment. Beyond that, I can buy so many brand and versions of those troublesome items, if anything goes wrong, the warranty is worth nothing. You are the one who need to diagnose-beg-wait-and replace whatever was faulty (that is about the meaning of warranty...) This clip was very informative! And if you are lucky, the part is coming with a decent courier from the far East destination and you don't need to wait 4-5 weeks to arrive...
Thought I signed up for a video of Matt talking about 3D printers, instead I got a full teaser of progress made on the land speed car that hadn't made it into the videos.
Love you pretty-fast Matt!
22:31 Zach is the BEST 😹😹😹
I’ve had an ender for years, I love it but I always joked with people thinking about getting into printing that it is actually 2 hobbies, printing things and tinkering with your printer between each print. But I just got a p1s from bambu labs and it prints straight out of the box, no warping issues, minimal maintenance, and it prints fast! It is a game changer for my productivity and the parts always come out amazing!
I bought my first 3D printer 9 years ago, it did OK printing PLA. I spent some time tinkering with it (I'm a nerd) but was never super happy with it. I bought another one which was much more precise, but it failed when I tried to make the jump to PETG and NinjaFlex. The printers basically just took up shelf space for a few years.
This year I decided it was time to pick the hobby up again so I bought a Bambu Lab P1S -- it worked right out of the box and has been chugging along for months now. I ended up buying another one. I put hardened gears and nozzles in them and now I'm ready for just about anything.
The Bambu Lab machines are appliances. They just work. If you know nothing about 3D printers, you can be up and running in 1/2 an hour.
I don't care for Bamboo Labs as a company, but i will admit they make a fantastic machine... that they developed off the hard work of an open source community... that they don't contribute back to. That they don't jive with the values of. And that you can't fix without thier parts unlike the systems they built thier products off of.
The whole "they took from the community" is so overblown and ridiculous.
That's like complaining that every 3d printer that isn't open source (Prusas xl isn't btw, not yet at least) is stealing from the community.
Its something you never really heard before Bambulab came along with an actually convenient machine.
They won't get my support purely for the fact they're from China. Time to put some brakes on this China dominance.
@@BeefIngotit's kinda got that hipster, you aren't a real fan, "I liked thing when it sucked, now it's too mainstream" vibe.
They improved printers upon the open source community so much that they deserve to be able to monopolize their own design at this point. It was truly a giant leap.
Sure. They can make money off what they developed. Free Open Source doesn't mean unmonetized. And their (premium line) products are great.
But you won't see me supporting Bamboo in particular for it. Not when their slicer is just a buggy fork of Prusa Slic3r with a coat of paint. When their firmware is not openly available. When they are corporate enough and a big enough threat that Stratasys is actually going to do something about them. While Stratasys could have acted against the open source community or Prusa or Ender or Form Labs for the same patents years ago.
And I dunno where the idea that this is the first easy 3D printer came from. There's a reason that the print farms run Prusas. They've been easy. For the decade that Matt has stayed out of the game.
I'm also the sort that spends more to buy American first, refuses to give Nike money based on how they behave internationally, and considers how much packaging/garbage a thing generates as heavily as price. I'm not the average customer and probably am a bit hipster. Grain of salt and whatnot.
22:39 we prefer the term Fellow Cyborgs
23:23 I just can’t put my finger on where I’ve here and this Oruro tune before
Oceans?
Oceans?
@@mrarby9780 thanks man
Kinda sounds like Judge Caprio’s caught in providence show
Oceans?
Received my first 3D printer at the beginning of this year with the intention of designing and making my own parts. Now, I have 3 printers with my first one being delegated to printing TPU only, another one is mainly ASA and the last one is for PLA only for rapid prototyping. So far, I've designed and made a pedal spacer, a clutch pedal stopper made out of 95A TPU, an intake coupler, etc. I've said it before to others but NOW is a good time to get into 3D printing. I, myself, have been waiting for a long LONG time for 3D printing to get to this point so I can get into it. Years ago, it was as complicated as you said. Just wasn't a good time for a normal person like me to get into the hobby. But now that I am, I'm addicted!
i wanted some sort of printer since reading about them in pop mechanics probably near 20 years ago. got one a few years ago, and printer has absolutely become my most used tool in the shop. great for lost wax, odd and end connectors, mouldings for aluminum channel, bespoke shrouds for electronics, and car parts for cars that haven't been manufactured in 40 years.
i have a relatively cheap one (vyper, fitting in name for this channels recent projects), so i definitely had a bit more learning curving to do.
I think the crossover point happened last year. Any modern bedslinger is cheap and reliable now. Bambu is not special any more IMO.
This is said truly like someone who hasn't experienced the fun of untested featureson other printers.
A Kobra 3 for instance is going to have a bunch of "quirks" even if on paper it spec matches.
Cheap? Yes. Reliable? Maybe. Consumer friendly? Probably not. Bambulab printers are truly plug and play no nonsense designed to be a tool printers. Prusa is just your average bedslinger but with perfect quality control and reliability, but you still need to do everything else.
"Maker" is like calling simple solutions "Hacks" or working for tips a" Gig", a hobby is not a "hustle". CAD is Hard and my cheap Printer is sooo slow. 🤬 yes I'm the angry old dude.
Same experience with her printer. It's absolutely amazing. Have not had a single failed print. Everything it makes is beautiful
New sub here, have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed this video. My takeaway is I need to upgrade to a Bamboo and stop fiddling and crossing my fingers with my "crappy printer" lol.
3D printer has been the best tool i've ever bought. Last project was a turn table for acrylic pour and frameholder for the canvas with four feet that can be adjusted in height. The turntable also can be levelled. Custom organizers is also one of the strong points, anything that is very bespoke. It just has become part of my life, if i need a trinket or a bracket, i model it and print it. Handles for DIY tools, sanding blocks that are custom made for just one curve... The amount of things that can be done is WAY more than you think. It most likely also is less than you think, since they are not replicators and there are limitations but.. It is one of those things that many think are just for stupid trinkets without realizing how many things are suddenly possible.
iv been printing over 10 years now.
this is a 100 percent acurate. i got great results from my printers for a long time because i tweeked it loads!
i now run Bambu printers and i can just print stuff that works!!!
I laughed entirely too hard at some of those jokes. Fantastic sense of humor and I loved it, because it's true. You don't think it'll be you printing those things, until it is.
Yeah so true 😆 I brought one in 2015, it took tweeking to get anything printed. They have come so far now.
You are 100% correct. Bought first 3d printer a couple years ago and it was a constant headache constant “tinkering”. Finally bought a Bambu Labs P1S and in one day had more successful prints than the old Ender3 ever had 😂