For a javanese, the wavy blade is not the definitive design of a keris. A blade must have three aspect to be even considered a keris and not just a keris-like object (which there are many) : 1. The material must be steel ; 2. It has to have a definite, separate gonjo (that guard-like flare actually is separate, but one) ; 3. It has to have a 'condong leleh' (that cant forward) of at least around 5°, but not more than 15°
It‘s so hard to get one of those here in Germany :/ I‘ve been fanboying the Kris-Blades since I first saw one. Greetings to all my Americans, have a blessed, Corona-free time!
BA blades in the UK provided mine and they are the local cold steel franchise. Excellent company and still operating in the lockdown, had them in stock zwei minuten ago. Priced in euros if required. D.
Love these historical stories behind various blades and weapons. Extremely interesting to say the least. Thank you very much for these! They are very fun to watch and educational.
Enjoyed very much. The history itself is amazing and you kept to the point… I just picked up the Ti-Lite version. One of the many things I’ve always enjoyed with Lynn’s designs… you said it right- every knife has a function. Thanks for a great history on these.
Thanks Cold Steel. Love these videos on the history of different blade designs (love the bad ass testing ones too!). Carrying my Vaquero right now, have a number of your great blades.
Keris wave shapes like snake… silent and deadly. Kris is not for box opening or unboxing, noisy marital art fighting or so call self defence, but Kris design size and blade material all aim at silently slipping into opponent stomach and pull enemies’ intestine out ; it is designed purely to kill. It is not designed to deter enemies from attacking you or design to just hurt someone, it is designed to kill. When you attack with Keris you need to focus, silently bend your knees so that the blade will cut through the center of the stomach, (belly button) ; There was primitive groups (until now) believe amongst South East Asian (Hindu) warriors that you need to consume enemies’ intestine to gain courage, so that the enemies’s spirit be with you and keris designed to take out enemies’ intestine. You might heard some groups fighting happens in South East Asia still uses Keris and they attacked kill the enemies silently at night and then consume their enemies intestine and then drag the remains on the street to scare the enemies families from taking revenge. This still happens.
The most magical Kris in Malaysia is Swinging Monkey Kris owned by Sultan of Selangor. In the past the kris belongs to a big monkey that killed 99 people. The monkey later defeated by a local warrior using cork wood that stuck the kris blade. Because of 99 people have been lost their soul through this kris, when it unsheathed, people around it will feel headache.
@@sleepsire9321Unfortunately, he's not joking. We Malaysian, especially the old folks are very superstitious. We like to believe in magical, mythical things. It's in our blood I guess.
Both knives look great, but what I personally would really like to see is how this blade is sharpened outside of the factory. I know it is not impossible, but I guess it would be not an easy task.
Pictures from Above Agreed. I personally prefer their clip points and tantos. For EDC roles, the kris blade shape isn’t the most practical option. I still appreciate Cold Steel taking risks though.
Round and rat tail Fine diamond and ceramic hones and rounded leather strops by eye. Care and precision. It's not a race. The Spyderco TSM can also be used but again...take your time...NO power tools
Cold Steel has done a good job creating reproductions of historic blades, and with its innovative designs. The true archipelagian Kriss is not a blade that could ever in any way be mass produced.
A keris origin from Malaysia, Indonesia, Southern Thailand, Southern Philipines. A well made keris can stand on itsself tip down. Go type KERIS BERDIRI in youtube. U will see Click on the most top/first video
@@malay7371 indonesia ditubukan tahun 1932 oleh bangsa jawa , bangsa melayu , bangsa bugis , bangsa dayak dan bangsa2 lain di nusantara lewat sumpah pemuda , satu tanah air , satu bahasa dan satu bangsa INDONESIA...
not gonna lie it's fucking cool no idea what a kriss is but it reminds me of a flamberge or a ceremonial dagger these curved blades were hard to forge and therefore very treasured
just got a limited edition Lynn Thompson ti-lite, serial number is 1964...however, there isn't Lynn's signature on the back of the box. Is this an original or did I get a knock-off counterfeit copy...???
I like the designs and the Ti-lite is one of my favorite blades. They look really cool and I bet they cut really well too but sharpening one correctly wouldn't be easy.
I'm not great with hand sharpening and I think some guided systems like the the DMT/Lansky/KME clamp-based systems may not sharpen the interior of the curves well (I have trouble with simple recurves on the DMT Aligner). However, any free/partially-guided stone system (bench stone, Sharpmaker, etc.) should work- you can drag the edge along and access the insides of the curves. Hissatsu5 had a video on this recently.
For the morokris. There's a lot of version depending on the tribe. Northern filipinos relied on the jungle. But the moros in the south preferred the plains. They attack out in the open. Thats why weapons from the south are a bit bigger. They tend to wrap their hands, binding it firmly to the sword.
Fun fact: the Yakan people, native to the island of Basilan (southern Philippines) used to gift a Kris blade of pure Silver or Gold along with a string of South Sea Pearls to people they deem a "friend to Islam", although often painted as rebels or terrorists by MSM, they were one of the few Moros who argued and fought against the lunacy of ISIS when it was initially preached to their people. Now their waters are being polluted and stripped bare by China's maritime militia.
The perfection of the Kris dagger is at the balance. The perfect Kris is at perfect balance that you can make it stand upright at its tip. If it cannot stand up in balance, then it's a bad Kris.
looks wicked but the 4 or 5 inch vanquero will bite harder and slice deeper but kris dagger is a more nasty damage used as push dagger and should stay as a fixed dagger since useless as everyday utility use plus it's difficult to sharpen on whetstone unless using a round stone rod.
Traditionally, keris is not sharpened at all.. it’s a stabbing weapon. Most of the time, only the tip is sharp. For everyday tasks, we have other kinds of blades - golok, parang etc.
Keris is much more than just "shape of the blade". It has almost own culture and presents basically cosmic love. Those copy things are just piece of industrial metal (not a music style).
What I would like to see is a traditional/ modern Filipino Kris sword. Cold Steel rocks. It would definitely be my sword of choice, combined with a companion off hand Kris knife.
iya dia kan dah bilang javanese(jawa) cuma itu ada keris vietnam keris kan senjata asli nusantara(indonesia,malaysia,brunei,philipina,thailand,myanmar,vietnam
I asked this on their Instagram and they said the Lynn Thompson Kriss Ti-Lite was more of a "decorative" piece... like wtf? I was wondering the same thing. And for like 100 bucks, I would say 440c is just not it chief... stick with the voyager
Agreed, I had hoped for one of their better tool steels for this ti-lite, especially at this price tag. I would love to have it for my collection and EDC but I want a better steel and preferably different scales. Could we get it with the aluminum scales? And I'm also not crazy about the green zytel. Can't go wrong with black, ya know?
moro warriors hated to be called "filipino". my grandfather told me if you were labelled or called a filipino back in the old days it means your a traitor. proud muslim/moro warriors will never accept to be branded a follower named after a christian foreign king (king Philip). moro kris were used to fight against spaniards and filipinos ( people who submitted to spanish rule)
American Taxpayer I own the ti lite version and the older spyderco kriss, I use a ceramic rod and arkansas stone rod. On both of them but it is strictly a freehand job, if you don’t like sharpening freehand then they arrive pretty lethal otb.
@@deimos4071 I have never felt or seen an edge on a knife sharper then what the wicked edge can produce. Basically I have never seen or felt any knife sharper then a blade reprofiled on the wicked edge.
AT the wicked edge is a thing of beauty but mine isn’t used as much these days, it’s not big enough for the cold steel swords. I tend to also use the freehand rods on odd shapes like the kris. If you get a wicked edge on the stiletto kris let me know how it goes. D
@@deimos4071 I put my rajah 2 on the WE. Reprofiled to 16 degrees. It's funny that's my edc blade. I was visualizing the kris blade on the We. I'm sure it could be done but probably not to full perfection.
AT how excellent, I love the Rajah series. The XL version was my first big CS folder, it gets good use but I live in England so EDC needs to be as useless as possible. Blade under 3 inches and non locking, so I carry nothing sharp. Being a registered collector I can own anything that’s legal OR was legal when you acquired it but once they are delivered you have to be outrageously law abiding. The only plus side to the current lockdown is that my CS dealer is still doing next day delivery. Be well D.
@@fajaradynurcahya5806 yes, the keris is from Indonesia, but the prototype of the kris comes from either Vietnam or India, maybe we did not called it "keris" when we invented it, but we did inspired the Indonesian Keris a lot
@@pmq6645 in my opinion,.. those years, vietnam still influenced by chinesse weaponry... (bronze) If talking about iron or steel,.. either it comes from java or around damascus.. Just my opinion here, dont be so serious about it or even angry.. :))
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For a javanese, the wavy blade is not the definitive design of a keris. A blade must have three aspect to be even considered a keris and not just a keris-like object (which there are many) : 1. The material must be steel ; 2. It has to have a definite, separate gonjo (that guard-like flare actually is separate, but one) ; 3. It has to have a 'condong leleh' (that cant forward) of at least around 5°, but not more than 15°
this isnt a javanese one, its based on the filipino kris
I really like the historical aspects of Luke's presentations of Cold,Steel Edged Weaponry!
It‘s so hard to get one of those here in Germany :/ I‘ve been fanboying the Kris-Blades since I first saw one. Greetings to all my Americans, have a blessed, Corona-free time!
you can find both on lamnia.com
You too my friend
BA blades in the UK provided mine and they are the local cold steel franchise. Excellent company and still operating in the lockdown, had them in stock zwei minuten ago. Priced in euros if required. D.
You can find them pretty easily here in Malaysia! XD
Check medievil collectables they have a whole bunch of cool shit
Love these historical stories behind various blades and weapons. Extremely interesting to say the least. Thank you very much for these! They are very fun to watch and educational.
I own both CS Kris blades. But spyderco actually did a really cool Kris back in the mid 2000s. Keep up the good videos Luke.
Enjoyed very much. The history itself is amazing and you kept to the point… I just picked up the Ti-Lite version. One of the many things I’ve always enjoyed with Lynn’s designs… you said it right- every knife has a function. Thanks for a great history on these.
Thanks Cold Steel. Love these videos on the history of different blade designs (love the bad ass testing ones too!). Carrying my Vaquero right now, have a number of your great blades.
One of my ancestors who worked at a rubber plantation in Indonesia had a kris knife so now we just have one in a very old and dirty photo frame
Keris wave shapes like snake… silent and deadly. Kris is not for box opening or unboxing, noisy marital art fighting or so call self defence, but Kris design size and blade material all aim at silently slipping into opponent stomach and pull enemies’ intestine out ; it is designed purely to kill. It is not designed to deter enemies from attacking you or design to just hurt someone, it is designed to kill. When you attack with Keris you need to focus, silently bend your knees so that the blade will cut through the center of the stomach, (belly button) ;
There was primitive groups (until now) believe amongst South East Asian (Hindu) warriors that you need to consume enemies’ intestine to gain courage, so that the enemies’s spirit be with you and keris designed to take out enemies’ intestine. You might heard some groups fighting happens in South East Asia still uses Keris and they attacked kill the enemies silently at night and then consume their enemies intestine and then drag the remains on the street to scare the enemies families from taking revenge. This still happens.
Linder in Solingen, Germany, still makes flame daggers to this day. As for modern interpretations, Spyderco had a kris model some years back.
Keris is originally from Indonesia & Malaysia
I love my Ti-lite Kriss 6" Serrated. I loved it so much, I bought a second one.
I love my Voyager Kris. Carry it 24-7.
Love how CS pushes the envelope!
The most magical Kris in Malaysia is Swinging Monkey Kris owned by Sultan of Selangor. In the past the kris belongs to a big monkey that killed 99 people. The monkey later defeated by a local warrior using cork wood that stuck the kris blade. Because of 99 people have been lost their soul through this kris, when it unsheathed, people around it will feel headache.
I honestly cannot tell if you are joking. Please let me know
@@sleepsire9321Unfortunately, he's not joking. We Malaysian, especially the old folks are very superstitious. We like to believe in magical, mythical things. It's in our blood I guess.
Both knives look great, but what I personally would really like to see is how this blade is sharpened outside of the factory. I know it is not impossible, but I guess it would be not an easy task.
Pictures from Above Agreed. I personally prefer their clip points and tantos. For EDC roles, the kris blade shape isn’t the most practical option. I still appreciate Cold Steel taking risks though.
Use the Spyderco 204 sharpmaker, and then finish up with a strop.
Oh absolutely, it's good thing that companies don't fall into stagnation and to release every year practically the same 5 or 6 knives.
Thank you sir.
When I buy one I'll have your advice into consideration :)
Round and rat tail Fine diamond and ceramic hones and rounded leather strops by eye. Care and precision. It's not a race. The Spyderco TSM can also be used but again...take your time...NO power tools
The purpose of the waves are to break the rib cage as the blade enters the chest cavity.
I like that Kris Voyager for SURE!!!
Just got a voyager kris, grinds are amazing fit is perfect not a hint of wiggle in the lock.
Got both of them in a couple weeks ago and they are both super fun knives.
Grape for you, and no, I'm definitely not jelly.
Okey doke.🗡
COLD STEEL NEED TO RE-RELEASE THE FIXED NAGA KRIS THAT THEY USED TO MAKE, THING WAS AWESOME
Javanese kris/Indonesian Kris has beautiful and detail design. It may be not Javanese Kris.
Thanks Luke!!
Gonna try to get a Kris Voyager for my Bday!
Love the design of it!! Also all those humps acting like miniature recurves! 👍
Is there going to be another production of Mr. Thompson‘s Vaquero Voyager? I desperately need one 😊
great vid :) love the historical inspirations behind Cold Steel blades.
Cold Steel has done a good job creating reproductions of historic blades, and with its innovative designs.
The true archipelagian Kriss is not a blade that could ever in any way be mass produced.
I have a voyager kris and it’s not used for anything but self defense. I wouldn’t want to sharpen it lol
A keris origin from Malaysia, Indonesia, Southern Thailand, Southern Philipines.
A well made keris can stand on itsself tip down. Go type KERIS BERDIRI in youtube. U will see
Click on the most top/first video
Javanese kris (majapahit kris) is your kris anchestors
@@candrasari6642 ken arok aja udah pake mas...
Kris was originated from Java before spreading to Nusantara archipelago
A well made Keris could make a gecko in the wall falling just by pointing the dagger at it.
KERIS FROM INDONESIA !! 🇲🇨
Not gonna lie,but you're too tacky
Indonesia ditubuhkan pada tahun keberapa ya? Sorry but i am a bit stupid 😶🙄
@@supremesauce2047 can't argue with that
@@malay7371 indonesia ditubukan tahun 1932 oleh bangsa jawa , bangsa melayu , bangsa bugis , bangsa dayak dan bangsa2 lain di nusantara lewat sumpah pemuda , satu tanah air , satu bahasa dan satu bangsa INDONESIA...
@@malay7371 mau klaim ke?
Excellent Video! Awesome little history lesson on the kris!
Thank You! God bless
not gonna lie it's fucking cool
no idea what a kriss is but it reminds me of a flamberge or a ceremonial dagger
these curved blades were hard to forge and therefore very treasured
just got a limited edition Lynn Thompson ti-lite, serial number is 1964...however, there isn't Lynn's signature on the back of the box. Is this an original or did I get a knock-off counterfeit copy...???
I love triple bladed knives. Nothing like it! So much fun!
What is that?
Dig the history, beautiful folders!
in the past in 80's-90's i bought an automatic italian knife with 20 cm of kriss blade shape!
I like the designs and the Ti-lite is one of my favorite blades.
They look really cool and I bet they cut really well too but sharpening one correctly wouldn't be easy.
definitely not easy to sharpen, you'd have to follow that curve with a thin belt I reckon
I'm not great with hand sharpening and I think some guided systems like the the DMT/Lansky/KME clamp-based systems may not sharpen the interior of the curves well (I have trouble with simple recurves on the DMT Aligner). However, any free/partially-guided stone system (bench stone, Sharpmaker, etc.) should work- you can drag the edge along and access the insides of the curves. Hissatsu5 had a video on this recently.
For the morokris. There's a lot of version depending on the tribe. Northern filipinos relied on the jungle. But the moros in the south preferred the plains. They attack out in the open. Thats why weapons from the south are a bit bigger. They tend to wrap their hands, binding it firmly to the sword.
Whens the Woodman's Sax coming out?
Out now, the Karve
Fun fact: the Yakan people, native to the island of Basilan (southern Philippines) used to gift a Kris blade of pure Silver or Gold along with a string of South Sea Pearls to people they deem a "friend to Islam", although often painted as rebels or terrorists by MSM, they were one of the few Moros who argued and fought against the lunacy of ISIS when it was initially preached to their people. Now their waters are being polluted and stripped bare by China's maritime militia.
I really like the kris voyager but are you gonna be making a lite or mini version of this, more in the 4inch ballpark?
The perfection of the Kris dagger is at the balance. The perfect Kris is at perfect balance that you can make it stand upright at its tip. If it cannot stand up in balance, then it's a bad Kris.
Already ordered. Now I'm just over here patiently waiting for the Facon.
Facon ..? What it look like
Giving love? Hell, you've earned it.
I like learning, but as a Coldsteel video how was there no cutting??
The longest variant of the kris sword is from philippines, we call it Kris too and also Kalis
I kind of liked the Naga Kris throwing knife you guys used to make...kind of sad it was discontinued....
I Think you must visit Neka Museum At Ubud - Bali. There a lot of ancient Keris that so beautiful in design.
They are still out of stock :/ been looking dor one forever when will u guys be making more
Can you do a video on your new Kris Dagger that just came out?
looks wicked but the 4 or 5 inch vanquero will bite harder and slice deeper but kris dagger is a more nasty damage used as push dagger and should stay as a fixed dagger since useless as everyday utility use plus it's difficult to sharpen on whetstone unless using a round stone rod.
Traditionally, keris is not sharpened at all.. it’s a stabbing weapon. Most of the time, only the tip is sharp. For everyday tasks, we have other kinds of blades - golok, parang etc.
@ cold steel
You guys considering a full size moro kris
Pacific cutlery/ Benchmade did it in the 1980s.
I really think the Kriss Vector should have a Kris style bayonet.
But only if it's at a weird angle to "redirect the stabbing force". :)
Keris is much more than just "shape of the blade".
It has almost own culture and presents basically cosmic love.
Those copy things are just piece of industrial metal (not a music style).
What I would like to see is a traditional/ modern Filipino Kris sword. Cold Steel rocks. It would definitely be my sword of choice, combined with a companion off hand Kris knife.
Try maranao kris swrod in the Philippines they create most beautiful kris
and i saw a lot off knives with kriss blades make by french soldier in the trench in the ww1
The Benchmade BM49 was a production kris blade
The balisong from Face/Off? :)
@@andrew-ripley1747 that's the one, knockoffs from dhgate only 25 bucks too
Very good,thank you!!😊🙏🙏
That Voyager looks more like a traditional weapon, Badik. Try to look it up guys. Badik comes with wavy blades as well.
pusakadunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/badik-pusaka-terbaik-sedunia_4.jpg
Serrations could be yhe most modern adaptation of Kris inspiration (at least round bread knife serrations)
But this isn't a Kris. A Kris is much more than a flamed blade. Or did you say, that a Flamberg is a giant Kris?
With Netflix Trese out, you'd get demand for a kris dagger for collection.
For anyone who is interested in these Filipino warriors who used the Kris blades:
ua-cam.com/video/faX04-lGziU/v-deo.html
(starts at 01:00)
Is the bailsong from the movie face/off?
Yes. Macw by benchmade.
Benchmade BM49
Is there going to be a Cold Steel automatic knife soon?
Wow. You really making it. 2kinds of folding kris. Those would b great
When will it be available, the Kris ti-lite
Great video I'm definitely getting one
Cold Steel, could you please release a fixed Kriss as well.....????
Javanese kriss👍👍.. Indonesia and malaysia
Howd one go about blade main as in sharpening ?
Just take my money already , damnit!!
You know? A well made keris can stand on its own
Kris is from Indonesia in Java island not in the Vietnam
iya dia kan dah bilang javanese(jawa) cuma itu ada keris vietnam keris kan senjata asli nusantara(indonesia,malaysia,brunei,philipina,thailand,myanmar,vietnam
Don’t think there’s a more exciting blade style
When I’m ready I hope there’s one of two I can snag
The only thing stopping me from buying one is the steel, why oh why did yall cheap out on one of the sickest folders you've made in a while?!
I asked this on their Instagram and they said the Lynn Thompson Kriss Ti-Lite was more of a "decorative" piece... like wtf? I was wondering the same thing. And for like 100 bucks, I would say 440c is just not it chief... stick with the voyager
@@nathandoll. decorative... What the fuck, who knew cold steel was in the business of wall hangers now
Agreed, I had hoped for one of their better tool steels for this ti-lite, especially at this price tag. I would love to have it for my collection and EDC but I want a better steel and preferably different scales. Could we get it with the aluminum scales? And I'm also not crazy about the green zytel. Can't go wrong with black, ya know?
KRIS ORIGIN FROM JAVA INDONESIA.....A MISTICAL WEAPON.
Cold Steel, when are you going to give us a fixed blade version....????
YES !!
Oh ,,,she is pretty,,Thanks for the toys Lynn...
Take the 4max scout & build a recurve blade and then also make 4max scout tanto that would be awesome!!!
I realy like this presenter !!!
moro warriors hated to be called "filipino". my grandfather told me if you were labelled or called a filipino back in the old days it means your a traitor. proud muslim/moro warriors will never accept to be branded a follower named after a christian foreign king (king Philip). moro kris were used to fight against spaniards and filipinos ( people who submitted to spanish rule)
Do you make the small tilite in kris
The Malaccan warrior Hang Tuah, took possession of "Taming Sari" after a duel with the foremost Majapahit (Javanese) warrior.
I own a wicked edge sharpener. Looks like it would be difficult to sharpen. What's the best way to put an edge on it?
American Taxpayer I own the ti lite version and the older spyderco kriss, I use a ceramic rod and arkansas stone rod.
On both of them but it is strictly a freehand job, if you don’t like sharpening freehand then they arrive pretty lethal otb.
@@deimos4071 I have never felt or seen an edge on a knife sharper then what the wicked edge can produce. Basically I have never seen or felt any knife sharper then a blade reprofiled on the wicked edge.
AT the wicked edge is a thing of beauty but mine isn’t used as much these days, it’s not big enough for the cold steel swords. I tend to also use the freehand rods on odd shapes like the kris. If you get a wicked edge on the stiletto kris let me know how it goes. D
@@deimos4071 I put my rajah 2 on the WE. Reprofiled to 16 degrees. It's funny that's my edc blade. I was visualizing the kris blade on the We. I'm sure it could be done but probably not to full perfection.
AT how excellent, I love the Rajah series. The XL version was my first big CS folder, it gets good use but I live in England so EDC needs to be as useless as possible. Blade under 3 inches and non locking, so I carry nothing sharp. Being a registered collector I can own anything that’s legal OR was legal when you acquired it but once they are delivered you have to be outrageously law abiding. The only plus side to the current lockdown is that my CS dealer is still doing next day delivery.
Be well D.
Nogososro keris is legend
Please make more! Im so sad that i cant buy one right now.
I like them all !
How in the heck would you sharpen that?
Carefully, by hand. I think, carry it a lot, never use it. CS always (used to?) come razor sharp out of the box ....
@@adods9824 I would be scared to
That shirt is kick ass
It's origin is from ancient Vietnam, bring it with you when you go into the jungle, and the jungle will starts talking to you.
No its Javanese kriss from Indonesia not from vietnam
keris from indonesia bro....
@@fajaradynurcahya5806 yes, the keris is from Indonesia, but the prototype of the kris comes from either Vietnam or India, maybe we did not called it "keris" when we invented it, but we did inspired the Indonesian Keris a lot
@@pmq6645 in my opinion,.. those years, vietnam still influenced by chinesse weaponry... (bronze)
If talking about iron or steel,.. either it comes from java or around damascus..
Just my opinion here, dont be so serious about it or even angry.. :))
Wouldn’t classify the Moro as a sword, it’s a long knife
It's a talisman rather than a weapon, some of them are sacred.
Please do a kriss with a thumb plate so we can wave it out the pocket like an ak47 folder!
I found a kris blade in my mother’s closet,wonder what it was used for-
Wrap it in silk or clean linen and take it to the Indonesian equivalent of a shaman and ask them what to do with it.
Great!
Kris from java Indonesia
Ottimo video ciao da italia
Thank you!