Venice | Lost LA | Season 3, Episode 5 | KCET

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  • Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
  • From its origins as a themed seaside resort to its international fame as a countercultural hub, Venice Beach boasts a rich, multilayered history. This episode explores Abbot Kinney’s original Venice of America development; the community of Beat poets who called Venice home; and how the commercial renaissance along Abbot Kinney Boulevard has impacted the historically African-American neighborhood of Oakwood.
    00:00-01:18 Introduction
    01:18-07:25 Venice Canals and Abbot Kinney
    07:25-13:43 Venice as a Diverse Community
    13:43-24:59 Beat Poets in Venice
    24:59-26:11 Conclusion
    26:11-26:40 Credits
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  • @Michaela1942
    @Michaela1942 5 місяців тому +11

    As someone old enough to remember the old Venice, I also have nostalgia for the way it was, cheap, begrimed, affordable, creative, scary and fun. I also remember going to a very run down falling apart house in Venice in the late 60s to find a friend who was flopping there after getting out of prison for being a mule for Mexican drugs. He had come from a very upper class family and, when we were in college together always was dressed in suits and white shirts. Then he was always laughing and making jokes. What we found was a bum-like being, laying on a dirty mat on the floor in cloths that smelled horrible. We wanted to help him, but he just waved us off. He wasn't high at the time, but just still trauma affected from prison life. He told us he had been raped many times and said other things happen to him there that he wouldn't describe. We left him, because he insisted. We told other friends who also tried to help him. But then he disappeared. We never knew what happened to him. With all the creative, fun parts of Venice, that image will always stick in my mind as part of the old Venice mystique.

  • @Cre-Art
    @Cre-Art Місяць тому +1

    Excellent series. I've been up and down CA but never actually visited Venice. Thanks for introducing me to Abbot Kinney, a very admirable person. That's the way I believed life should be: all of us living together and appreciating the differences, not fearing them-and I still do. Thanks very much. :)

  • @I_Bully_The_Bullies
    @I_Bully_The_Bullies 3 роки тому +8

    I’ll put it like this! VENICE is a place for all to come! For all to share, show, & display there artistic talents! W/out judgment or ridicule!! For if you go there to do so! Then you are not only in the wrong place! But also in the wrong state of mind & soul!!
    Sincerely from a Venice Beach admirer!! 🙇🏽‍♂️

  • @marionwilson8141
    @marionwilson8141 4 роки тому +10

    The old pictures with the oil rigs are amazing

  • @whomanbeing
    @whomanbeing 5 років тому +22

    Another great episode. I lived in Venice for 9 years, it has it's issues but I loved living there.

  • @lalmgh
    @lalmgh 3 роки тому +5

    I went there ! I live in Canada! I must be getting old, I really enjoyed history documentary

  • @natiegeller9547
    @natiegeller9547 2 роки тому +7

    This is wonderful! Thank you! Great to learn more about our surroundings.

  • @mramachandran9830
    @mramachandran9830 3 роки тому +13

    This is a wonderful video! I love how the focus is on race issues along with the history of the city. Well done!

  • @bspain1637
    @bspain1637 2 роки тому +12

    This is fantastic stuff, I wish it was longer actually.

  • @westho7314
    @westho7314 Рік тому +6

    Born & raised in the area on the coast a few miles south of Venice, I remember all the oil derricks, post war amusment parks and down trodden beach towns from Santa Monica down to Huntington Beach in Orange County, Beach towns were nothing like today, They were mostly enviromental wastelands with tar covered sand, tacky summer cottages and bungalows from the 1920s turned into cheap monthly rentals and what today are known as homeless people, back then lived along Coast Hwy in makeshift campers & travel trailers & war surplus tents along the coast hwy & around the wetlands at Tin Can beach just south of Long Beach, Old men surf fishing or hanging out on the piers back then had a little more self dignity. Many were WW2 vets and people who came west to California with a big dream only to end up living on the each or worse ending up on skid row in downtown LA. Long Beach had POP Pacific Ocean Park a pier & roller coaster, carnival rides, concessionaires and tattoo parlors everywhere as Long Beach was a Navy Town,, By the mid 1960's. the Hippies showed up and replaced the beatniks, filling the neighborhoods in Venice or where old homes turned into dilapidated time share shacks for the lost & wayward generation looking for themselves, the Venice canals were filled with tons of trash and old tires and anything else that was useless or used up. it always smelled of oil and open sewers in that area. As kids in the late 50's & through the 60's we would ride our bicycles north on Coast Hwy from our working class neighborhood in Newport Beach all the way up to Long Beach Venice & Santa Monica to see the sights and the counter cultural attractions,, Even though our straight laced conservative John Birch/ John Wayne worshipping Society parents warned us to stay away from such places. By the late 60's and into the 70's it seemed like all of Haight Ashbury moved south to coastal LA, Orange County and Laguna Beach, The Timothy Learys, Lonnie Frisbee's, Baba Ram Dass's and Charlie Mansons of that time were everywhere pimping jesus and pandering their philosophies, drugs and STD's, free clinics popped up in every beach town to service the victims of that free love generation.. By then i was in my late teens and said farewell to that wasteland paradise and Moved to Hawaii with my surfboard and fishing pole, not long before the Islands suffered the same fate, which it did to some extent, but again it was time to move & stay one step ahead of popular culture and their early concept of the hipsters Corporate America.

    • @kennethbrady
      @kennethbrady Рік тому +2

      Brilliant mini essay. Thanks.

    • @egmjag
      @egmjag Рік тому +3

      Were there certain areas in Venice/Santa Monica that were off limits and dangerous? A few sources say biker outlaws lived in the Venice canals in the 50s and 60s. One source said that police were tired of going there because it was so rowdy, and people were murdered. Straight Satans was founded at a bar between Santa Monica and Venice in 1959 at Webb Bar. I wonder where that was located. I saw an old 1965 or 1967 biker movie featuring Venice Hells Angels and a lot of footage of Venice. My parents lived in the old white apartment house at the corner of 4th and Rose in 1965. They didn't like it that much but they never felt any sense of danger around that area.

  • @VisitingwithMr.V
    @VisitingwithMr.V 2 роки тому +2

    Wow. This is a poem.

  • @VivisPixels
    @VivisPixels Рік тому +1

    This was amazing

  • @erykahhoney588
    @erykahhoney588 5 місяців тому +1

    My favorite spot 🫶🏾

  • @fortunefay
    @fortunefay 4 роки тому +2

    A magical vortex

  • @johnnyjames7139
    @johnnyjames7139 5 років тому +3

    A few friends and I have had a pair of trucks from the Venice miniature railway for decades. Kinney got his initial money by popularizing the smoking of cigarettes in the USA.

  • @timothydunn5889
    @timothydunn5889 4 місяці тому

    Surely there is a movie somewhere in this story? Fantastic history.

  • @kevmichael2064
    @kevmichael2064 3 роки тому +3

    Thay should rebuild Venice Beach...Make it like it was in the 20s-40s....my parents went here

    • @selecttravelvacations7472
      @selecttravelvacations7472 Місяць тому

      Unless they can ship off the homeless, this will never happen. Homelessness has always been a big issue here but now it’s at insane levels.

  • @J_J_P_
    @J_J_P_ 5 років тому +6

    Venice is tricky place. I think most opinions are based on what you see by the beach. It's a dirty place. But, there's a lot of great restaurants and shops throughout the city.

    • @kevmichael2064
      @kevmichael2064 3 роки тому +1

      Thay should rebuild the midway...and kick the Druggies and homeless out

    • @oiseaudenuit
      @oiseaudenuit 3 роки тому +2

      I lived there 5 house from the boardwalk and it is dirty by the people not living there! Every Monday morning I was picking up broken been bottles on my porch from the Sunday night Tam-tams on the beach! Now these days the place I was renting 2brd 2 bath is $8500 a month at this price even if you do $120,000 there is not much left! And if you want to buy 3-4millions minimum! In many places you can live way better with good restaurants around and nice activités! But no beach! I am happy that I move especialy after a murder in my parking space!

  • @chrispaul7849
    @chrispaul7849 Рік тому +1

    too bad it isnt what it was once--this series is amazing tho!

  • @MaxFung
    @MaxFung 2 місяці тому

    they didn't even mention the public transit serving the community (pacific and electric railways) or the fact that the extensive canal system got paved over during the rise of the automobile smh

  • @RDnAC
    @RDnAC 5 років тому +5

    Fantastic! I never knew many of those things and I have lived in this area for most of my life. I didn’t know about the oil rigs or that there were more canals that got paved over. Most people only associate Venice with Muscle Beach, The Doors and gangs so I’m glad none of that was mentioned.

  • @colehealy28
    @colehealy28 4 місяці тому

    I’m born and raised in the four corners. This is a great video.

  • @jorgedominguez2256
    @jorgedominguez2256 4 роки тому +5

    Dumb why fill in the canals. Roads are everywhere which is why they shouldve kept the canals.

  • @517oceanfront
    @517oceanfront 2 роки тому

    I recall the gas house days.

  • @MrCoconutcat
    @MrCoconutcat 5 років тому +3

    I love your videos about Los Angeles, make as many as you can, just take one idea, and build off of that, like the doors music group the other person mentioned, or a small idea like a little boat from Los Angeles California and also chumash and tongva gabriel Indians

  • @kevmichael2064
    @kevmichael2064 3 роки тому +5

    Thay should of kept Venice as it was back in the begaining..if this place was in it original form today it would be a gold mine ...It would been far better than six Flags and Disneyland...thay would of been nothing to this

  • @3p_psychopathproductions5150
    @3p_psychopathproductions5150 5 років тому +30

    How can you make documentary about Venice Beach and not talk about "THE DOORS"

  • @TinLeadHammer
    @TinLeadHammer Рік тому +2

    So, you are a PBS affiliate, but you figured than since this is UA-cam, you can run ads on your videos? I wonder what the FCC thinks about it.

    • @evan242503
      @evan242503 5 місяців тому

      So, what do they think about it?

    • @selecttravelvacations7472
      @selecttravelvacations7472 Місяць тому

      There’s only ads for those that don’t pay for YT but gripe about the commercials.

  • @avg1712
    @avg1712 5 років тому +13

    The real Venice beach has been trashed for tourists

    • @bengold121
      @bengold121 4 роки тому

      Back then, now Google branch headquarter is there and so is Snapchat.......

  • @troysierra5228
    @troysierra5228 5 років тому +5

    Venice Beach to me represented the Haight and Ashbury of San Francisco in Los Angeles in the late 60's early 70's. From the Doors to Charles Manson finding his groupies there. Let's not forget, Venice in the late 60's was an unofficial clothing optional beach. Dotted with unofficial gyms, that guys used right out of prison.
    Before Silver Lake became the hub of the gay community, Venice Beach was also known as a gay hangout in the 60's counterculture.

  • @marztar
    @marztar 2 роки тому +1

    the butchers daughter botched that rooftop garden.
    put plants up one night on acid and forgot to water or just forgot they up there!
    plants all in the fetal position they don't need that stress man 25:44

  • @DerGlaetze
    @DerGlaetze 4 роки тому +16

    Venice is now an open sewer of homeless, much like San Francisco is today. My brother in law, before he passed away, quit jogging through the streets there, because he told me that he could no longer tolerate the stench of urine.
    Also, the people who do own housing are compelled to send their children to private schools, for their safety. Otherwise, your children will end up in the LAUSD, which includes Venice High. Go ahead and google search that school and you will find out for yourself. That’s why my sister in law moved out this year with her teenage son. They are much happier, now that they are gone from that madness. So, quit trying to paint a rosey picture of that place!

    • @retsukage
      @retsukage 2 роки тому +1

      what's your problem?

    • @williemo44
      @williemo44 11 місяців тому +1

      Sad. Venice High is where the movie Grease was filmed. Rich in history but the value diminished dollar is beginning to translate into societal decay.

    • @sandhilltucker
      @sandhilltucker 9 місяців тому

      ​@@retsukage problem is when "liberal" people feel like they can buy a neighborhood with a couple million and make it into an orwellian hell hole. When they could've bought a couple of houses anywhere else with the same money.

  • @charlesgates2908
    @charlesgates2908 4 роки тому

    Supply and demand.

  • @magellanicspaceclouds
    @magellanicspaceclouds 4 роки тому +11

    Venice is where all the bums hang out now

  • @tomlopez1984
    @tomlopez1984 5 років тому +3

    All the graffiti that got buffed the arrest of breakdancer. Tourist in, natives out.

  • @edwardobrien4292
    @edwardobrien4292 5 років тому +2

    This is to wrapped up in the poetry scene it should b renamed

  • @biancaburciaga1945
    @biancaburciaga1945 3 роки тому +5

    Was there a week ago and it’s completely different now in a bad way it was dirty it reeked of weed and so much homelessness Abbot Kinney would upset, I grew up going to Venice Beach and it was always so much fun sadly it’s not like that no more.

    • @ashtonturner2862
      @ashtonturner2862 3 роки тому +3

      What the hell are you talking about? Don't spread lies on here. Fake @ss Angeleno. Venice is the cleanest that it's even been because of the tech boom and gentrification. Where were you in the 80s and 90s in the height of gang wars and homelessness? Probably not even alive. Weed? Really? B*tch, it's Venice, weed has always been there! That's nothing new! Skaters and surfers reign in Venice and weed has always been part of the culture.

    • @ashtonturner2862
      @ashtonturner2862 3 роки тому +2

      @Jr. Johnston LMAO...GTFO

    • @ganginfr4923
      @ganginfr4923 2 роки тому

      You didn't grow going to Venice it's always been like this.

    • @markturner977
      @markturner977 8 місяців тому

      @@ganginfr4923what have I told you about replying to other people’s comments - final warning !

  • @qffrfvecgg7096
    @qffrfvecgg7096 2 роки тому +1

    XO4

  • @ronniedelahoussayechauvin6717
    @ronniedelahoussayechauvin6717 3 роки тому

    Breach

  • @MichaelDillin
    @MichaelDillin Рік тому +1

    Now it's totally overrun with homeless derelicts not very safe or welcoming four families unless you're trying to get rid of some of your family LOL LOL

  • @lawrencekniser8555
    @lawrencekniser8555 3 місяці тому

    Now its going through an upheaval of homelessness drugs

  • @shakubob
    @shakubob 2 роки тому +1

    Brits describing California BLOWS.

  • @randygravel2057
    @randygravel2057 3 роки тому +1

    Wait. Shits not as cool as it use to be?

  • @xyorkx7784
    @xyorkx7784 Місяць тому

    Gentrification ruined Venice. Venice identity has been lost and stripped from the real people of Venice. Greed and the rich took that away from the real locals of VENICE.

  • @imjustsayin6562
    @imjustsayin6562 3 роки тому +1

    The new venice (land of the homeless) hahaha lol.......

  • @gabbyhyman1246
    @gabbyhyman1246 4 роки тому

    How can this script be such a shitty rucksack of cliches?

  • @matthewrudolph3514
    @matthewrudolph3514 3 роки тому +1

    Venice is a sewer. Lol

  • @firstlastname7437
    @firstlastname7437 3 роки тому +8

    Just a homeless camp now, congrats California, you did it !

    • @kevmichael2064
      @kevmichael2064 3 роки тому +2

      Thay should kick them out..
      And rebuild it to its former glory

    • @shuav8943
      @shuav8943 3 роки тому +2

      @@kevmichael2064 you should learn English.

    • @garyschultz7768
      @garyschultz7768 3 роки тому

      @@shuav8943 ...
      grammar Nazi's not wanted

    • @williemo44
      @williemo44 11 місяців тому

      Providing outdoor housing for free. Utopian.

  • @4Realkevv
    @4Realkevv 6 днів тому

    Wtf everything now is wack af

  • @ogBravo1
    @ogBravo1 5 років тому +3

    Still too White oriented but it’s aiight.