@@Eric-rl3mb technically speaking he is a superman villain considering his first appearance was on Superboy, but honestly the gender swapped Mr Freeze could have been replaced with any non Batman villain that I would have been fine with, like Killer Frost and Captain Cold were right there
Kelly Hu voices Mrs. Freeze She also plays Lady Shiva in Arkham Origins, Li Mei in Mortal Kombat 1, and in live action she played Lady Deathstrike in X-Men 2.
@@JamesGilbert_well, she actually has voiced a villain already. Kelly Hu has voiced Karai in the 2012 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series, and she was a villain for a season and a half before joining the turtles side. So, yeah, fun fact.
@@jaykearson I always separate art from artist. Voice actors always deserve love and respect, even when they play characters we despise. Kelly Hu deserves praise for her voice, but the character does not.
@@Wolfe1939 now that I know that I'm glad she has experience working with Warner Bros. I really hope Lady Shiva is at least mentioned in Arkham shadow.
It would have made more sense to be Killer Frost since she is commonly a member of the Suicide Squad. I don’t know if Mrs. Freeze has existed before this game and was on the Squad but I know for sure that Killer Frost usually is
Frosty doesn't have the PR of a famous Batman villain I'm pretty sure Rocksteady will pick what their shareholders think will sell well, that is, everything Batman
@@LonelyGamer4 Because killer frost would've been a better alternative to this. Not everything has to be from a different universe that is barely even known.
She kinda looks like a Karen which is why the people have dubbed her Karen ice also if they did have to make a gender bent mr freeze I would have liked it if they had Nora as the one trying to save her significant other and victor as the one who is frozen because Nora never gets that much character development if any she's always just frozen in that pod
Honestly when I heard that a Mrs. Freeze was being added to the game I legit thought she was gonna be a version of Nora trying to save victor as in her universe she was the scientist and victor was the one that got sick and has to be frozen. As that does sound more interesting than a gender bent version of victor
Yeah, it seems kinda weird that they would rather genderbend the male character into a strong female archetype instead of expanding on the existing female character that was in (almost all) other versions present as a literal block of ice. I would have been down for Nora taking on the mantle of Mrs. Fries and there would have been so many opportunities to expand on her character and show the differences between her and her husband
Also a nother problem is that when we free batman in future sessions it's he going to have a mental breakdown in the fact that his evil clone killed Tim his son like what's Gona happen with that ??? Like what
The thing is that it was always planned to revive the league but Sefton hill was fresh off the infinity war hype and decided to remove all the hints ingame that it’s clones leading to what we got.
Both "clone theory is a cop-out" and "clone theory fixes everything" are valid simultaneously. This is because while people will be glad the mess was cleaned up, the writers shouldn't have made one to begin with.
For the Braniac fight, they NEED to make the ceiling taller. Playing it as the Joker is AGONY because his verticality causes him to constantly smack the roof and ragdoll without being able to recover until hitting the ground like a dead fish
I'm noticing a lack of new villian squad members being added in this game. the 2 new released ones are just alternate universe versions of characters who had their story ended. The closest we get to someone new is deadshots daughter for the next season but I wanna know who actually cares about her. Most of the new villains are only named in notorious guns. Not even a appearance
Part of me wants to play this game because it looks fun, but then I remember the grind and all it’s flaws that I have to go through to get the best time with it, and I am now confident in avoiding it, even if it gives me reason to enjoy it.
Here’s my question: Was the justice league we killed clones or were mind controlled and brainiac simply brought them back to life? I’m asking because the dialogue of the squad gives (combined with the fact Flash has both of his thumbs) would imply that we legitimately did kill and brainiac was simply able to bring them back from the dead. Although if that’s the case, I have to wonder how brainiac is going to bring Batman and Green Lantern back to life. Sure you can give someone a prosthetic thumb, but those two had their brains blasted out.
Also how does the clone scenario explain the scene where the Flash is able to break from his brainwashing for a second when compelled by the lasso? Doesn’t that imply that that is the real Flash??
So basically, they took the story that everyone hated said "Whoops! Sorry everyone!" and now we have the potential to actually get a halfway decent Arkham series follow up assuming they can get their head out of their rear ends. That's good, I guess?
I don’t mind seeing genderbent versions of characters from the Multiverse (in fact, I think it would’ve been pretty interesting if her entire universe was gender bent just for the novelty of seeing how confused Victoria would be by the notion of Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman), but it is still pretty weird that they went with gender, bending Mr. freeze when they could’ve taken killer frost who is also a ice themed scientist super villain. Not to mention, she could help expand the law of Barry Allen in this universe since we would have another flash villain.
7:57 My presumed guess for Miss Freeze’s VA would be Sara Carvens, who ironically played Frost in MK11. And this isn’t her first time voicing a DC Character as she Voiced Power Girl in Injustice 2. As for her other roles, she voiced Boom Bloom in Skylanders and Hildr in God of War (2018). P.S: if I’m 100% wrong, then I’ll redo what’s been written above. Edit: I’ve seen Kelly Hu be thrown around as the Voice Actress for Miss Freeze, granted I might have to look into it.
7:04 yeah this kind of thing bugs me, like if youre gonna make a female version of a male character it just feels weird to give her the most stereotypically masc female look
It's nice to see some positivity with this season, compared to the fan-reaction to the last one (which was justified). I hope that things keep getting better.
The game should has called suicide squad vs the justice league, that would make much more sense and maybe take some inspirating from another suicide squad comic named "Suicide squad vs the justice league" where Waller is using the squad to neutralize and capture the justice league members.
My plan is just wait till all the updates are done so i can enjoy unlocking all the characters at once. The updates are lacking but the characters themselves make up for it. I can't wait to see the other characters
Back when the clone theory was first going around, I said this and I still stick by it: I don't think it helps anything. One of the few things this story had going for it was the fact that they did something as gutsy as killing off the League, and now they're taking that away. In the comics, they're never going to kill off the League permanently, but in a game they could, and yet they still chose not to. It makes it feel more generic and seems to go against the general atmosphere the game had. But I also don't think most people who hated the story are going to be won over by this. The damage has already been done; it's not like the fact that the League were clones recontextualizes what happened in any way. Harley still shot Batman on a park bench, even if it wasn't the "real" Batman. The only difference this makes will be if they want to move forward and make another game in this universe. And honestly (given this game's reception), I don't think that's a good idea. This was not the game to give us if you wanted to follow it up with a Justice League game. And even without this game, I'm not sure it was ever going to make sense to expand the Arkhamverse to include all of DLC. The Arkhamverse had plenty of crazy elements, but it still feels like a stretch for that Batman to join up with aliens, magicians, and demigods. And where Batman was at the end of Arkham Knight, it didn't really feel like Batman was in a position where joining the League would make sense. The Arkhamverse should have ended or gone in its own direction, and if DC wanted a Justice League game, it should have been in its own universe.
So with WW, I think they probably intend to bring her back somehow. Flash is kept in a pod by Waller, and those pods have little logos representing the JL heroes. There's one for WW, so I imagine they have some plan for her to be in said pod
Im personally liking this season more than the last one, probably cause I like snowy maps and I’m starting to like miss freeze but killer frost would have been a way better character
Look since clone theory is right I think Wonder woman could come back. Maybe when we've been able to save every captured Justic Leauge member we'll probably find tech on Brainiacs ship that has an ability to clone a new version of her or the one that died was actually a clone.
After all of this is over with, Task Force X is going to rescue the League members one at a time, introduce a more fanservice-y version of Wonder Woman (Probably DCAU or Linda Carter inspired), then the League kicks all of their butt's easily because they're the "Real Deal" and the game ends on a high note because the Justice League gets set up for their own game. Obviously a JL game would be great! However... They should have just started with that, since this game is almost confirmed to be a $70 spin-off prequel to something coming up next. For all Miles Morales' writing problems, at least it cost $20 less than Spider-Man, and $30 less the the game following it.
Tbh they probably intended to stick with killing them at first but backed out last second, either due to corporate or public outcry. That dual-fight thing with Brainiac should have been done day one though, simple way to enhance the fight.
The whole clone reveal at this point nobody cares that’s just how things are gonna be also all the story bits still counts boomerang did want to piss on the real flash’s corps, Harley lecturing Batman when she helped kill a bunch of kindergarteners with joker , wonder woman’s death, Luther’s stupidity and it also cuts the only good scene in the game , the scene where Diana interrogated flash, it’s over no one wants to comeback and with good reason too
I think you could do a mrs freeze in a kind of interesting way if you made her Nora. Maybe Victor is the one who gets sick and Nora has to step up to help him. Sure it would be better to just do Captain Cold or Killer Frost, but if you absolutely must have Freeze then making it Nora could be interesting.
Apparently Sara Cravens voices Ms. Freeze, it says so on the scrappy fandom website. Edit: Well now I don't know what to believe because I read another comment that says she was voiced by Kelly Hu. 🤷♂
I didn't like her design when I saw the leak; but looking at her in-game, I think she looks pretty cool! I don't like the ice hair though, kinda weird. And her personality and motivations are quite faithful to Mr. Freeze in general. Which is actually impressive coming from the current Rocksteady who took Arkham Harley and turned her into Margot Robbie (except a worse version of her take). Still not giving them my money, I prefer to watch this mess from the sidelines lol
Sadly they arent clones, at one point braniac mentions how flash is gonna have a mental breakdown once he discovers what he's done, that sudjests that he is in fact the same as the real one.
Now that the clone theory is confirmed, i really want a justice league game in this universe. Ik kevin is dead (Rip) but we have Roger Craig Smith (who is voicing Batman in Arkham shadows) who can voice our caped crusader!
Ultimately if this was ALL in main game it could be genuienly interesting story. At the end they will probably team up with Justice League and they will stop final Brainiac leading up to the Justice League game. If it wasnt looter shooter and had all this storytelling in single story and not in DLC season's this game would succeed and be solid in my opinion. And those cheap scenes and audio log storytelling should be replaced with cutscenes, where the hell did the budget for this game go, on what exactly? And squad should have been little bit more interesting, on example Joker, Deathstroke should have been starting character's
i mean the am e was shit but i think if they saved all jl member ,they gonna fight brainic together and win and then they try do kill the REAL jl, still GREAT VIDEO
I was going to say that making Mrs. Freeze Nora would ruin her happy ending Arkham Knight. Then I remembered that SS:KTJL introduced the multiverse in the Arkham series just to get away with bastardizing these characters. So they could have made this Nora without ruining the ending of In From The Cold.
Well we can at least say something is, quote unquote, "Better" but that doesn't seem like a high bar. I can at least hope we get to play as Flash soon. Like as much $h!7 Multiversus gets, it at least doesn't look as bad as this. It's also funny how LEGO Batman 3 is a much better game with Brainiac as the villain than the big game with battle passes and stuff, Bruce and Robert continue to show superiority. (Seriously, if you haven't seen "The Adventures of Bruce and Robert" by Eyezayar, you definitely should, it's the entire reason I even thought about LB3 and SSKtJL in the same way)
Only took me like a little over 2 hours to unlock Freeze and rescue The Flash. I had fun but this game still has the same issues It’s so boring just playing the same 4 missions from the main game with reskins. Freeze plays really well she’s pretty fun but like WHO IS THIS CHARACTER MADE FOR?? It’s a gender swap of one of the most favorite Batman villains 1 that has had a great presence in this universe. It’s stupid and obviously just screams hey sweet baby Inc is still here being stupid. Killer Frost was literally right there and the fact that all they did was just make weapons after her is beyond dumb when it should’ve been reverse. Killer Frost as the playable character and Mr Freeze weapon sets. It’s so dumb It’s nice to see that the leak of the JL in the actual game being evil clones is nice to see knowing that the heroes are actually still alive and didn’t get disrespected which I always figured but happy to see confirmed. They really need to just cut their loses with this game and say it’s non canon so much wasted potential.
I don't think there were clones at all, beside Brainiac using his 1st terminaut to integrate himself to change into the league members, and I rewatched the duality intro cutscene and also remembered when killing the league the bodies were phased away, and what do we see in the comic cutscene, Green Lantern's body with the purple veins around the eyes, with his middle finger being regenerated and his ring with water around it in a container, as long as the bodies were on the skull ship, their DNA were passed onto the enemies also check Batman Arkham Videos Batman Comms video, which could have foreshadowed superman infused forces. Also those speed force mines are the same from the original flash fight just more lethal than before and can be stopped with grenades, along with a freezing thunderclap instead of a venom frenzy thunderclap like in the original Superman fight and episode 2 Brainiac, and I think superman made icicles on the ground too
10:51 No they still did all of that, just because they are clones don’t detract at all how the squad treated them. The clones still contain the original’s memories as shown through Wonder Woman’s Lasso and still feel things for their friends while under mind control. By this logic, it’s fine to treat Ben Rilley poorly because he’s a clone of Peter Parker.
Hey clownpuncher in your batman AK boss rush at 32 minutes on your winning croc run you lose the. Challenge by punching a henchman I'm sorry for telling you this
Mrs freeze aslo plays lady shiva from origins not even lying dude,karai from tmnt 2012,and stacy from phineas and ferb. Definitely a good voice actor to bring into the cast But im still hating this game sorry not sorry
I am honestly not happy to have batman back. With kevin conroy gone it will just feel soulless again. Though if Wonder Woman doesnt come back thats like *the one* female leaguer gone.
I saw all the Arkham skins from the previous games and really wanted to get them and play the game again tgen i realised it was like £50 and i just gave up instantly
You forget the golden rule of comics. If you are popular enough, you are not dead. You are merely taking a break from screen time. I'm not saying it's good. I'm not saying it's bad. It's kind of in the middle.
I know this game sucks. But if we look at it as it forever will be cannon to the arkham verse i hope and pray this game gets better and they dont leave it unfinished. I know we all meme and hate on this game and i agree its bad and a quick cash grab but we dont get much dc content so i can only hope and pray they continue to improve this cluster fuck
TBH if the game was just the story mode no live service crap and they would of said it wasnt canon to the arkham games the game wouldve been at least a 6 out of ten and not a 2
I suspect the entire "save the flash" part was due to the backlash of the original game. They, not sure who they are, realized killing the most popular heroes before we ever got to play as them would kill the franchise so they did a quick back peddle. I do agree with you that it feels kind of pointless. They couldn't commit either way.
11:45 No it doesn’t, these are meant to prefect clones that are meant to be stronger, faster with the gained intellect of Brainiac than their original counterparts. This is flat out worse cause this just the game telling you the squad beated a better version of the real Justice League.
Compare these two seasons to the next expansion that is being released for Mortal Kombat 1 and this is a perfect example of understanding the seasoned system of releasing story structure all the characters that are playable in the storyline released day one same time you unlock them within the story instantaneously the guest characters who are not important to the storyline their release date is? Which is understandable I mean they're not important to the storyline they can stay in the oven as long as possible you don't care! And the great example is they had a out and they never bothered to use it which was the alternate costumes and the fact that we're visiting alternate worlds these could have all been failed suicide team squats! Release Joker release 3 costume packs making three other characters that you're forced to play with in those costumes different characters give King shark a costume and where he's replaced with Solomon Grundy we know we're never going to get him a series, I let other people suggest other people that we've been replaced for other characters with costumes beyond replacing dead shot with the people that dead shot was replaced with in the sequels!
Well this was better than season 1 but not by much. Wb seriously needs to let rocksteady create an actual good game but I’m just happy the real justice league is alive even if they were kinda character assassinated. (Seriously why did Batman join the league when he did knight fall for a reason?!) anyway hopefully they keep this up but knowing wb, I don’t know if they will…
If i would rewirte it to where batman never joined the league but shows up as the nt corrupted hero instead of wonder woman Brainiac took over the justice league and batman comes out of the shadow maybe even helping task force X And the last 5 years it was assumed batman/bruce died during knight Atleast that's how i would have done it,
@@nicktb1999 Yeah. Have Batman stay presumed dead but is forced to come out of hiding one last time to stop brainiac. And of course having him die like Wonder Woman did and treated with respect would be much better than the crap of him dying by HARLEY FREAKING QUINN!
@@DallasReimer i would have done it where batman survives but maybe gets injured and stays at the hall of justice guiding the suicide squad to help stop brainiac Then once brianiac is dealt with and the justice league is back batman still refuses to the offer to join the league and goes back to gotham I just feel like arkham batman woulsnt join the league (But that's my take)
@@nicktb1999 Yeah but if he has to die then giving him Wonder Woman’s death is probably the best route to go. But yeah this version of Batman definitely wouldn’t join the league especially after knight. He’s a Batman that prefers to work alone even with the bat family so I don’t see his Batman joining a whole team of other superheroes.
You know it’s a shame there’s no new game plus mode for this game that allows you to replay the bass story. Don’t get it wrong. The story is shit, but imagine if once all the DLC characters come out you could’ve played through the game with them. you could fight the justice league as joker, Mrs. freeze, deadshots, daughter, and deathstroke. Sure it’s mostly the same gameplay, but at least it would be an option.
Man could you imagine if they used Captain cold instead. Then you would have had a story about two of flash villains teaming up to recuse him.
3 king shark is a flash villain
@@Eric-rl3mb technically speaking he is a superman villain considering his first appearance was on Superboy, but honestly the gender swapped Mr Freeze could have been replaced with any non Batman villain that I would have been fine with, like Killer Frost and Captain Cold were right there
@@mateushenriquepinheiro3197 I didn't know that cool
Kelly Hu voices Mrs. Freeze
She also plays Lady Shiva in Arkham Origins, Li Mei in Mortal Kombat 1, and in live action she played Lady Deathstrike in X-Men 2.
Holy daaamn, from Lady Shiva to this 😂 But I was thinking she sounds familiar!
This is extreme cap. She’s played by Sara Cravens.
I know Kelly Hu from Jason Takes Manhattan.
Karai TMNT 2012
They really should've gone with killer frost she's so much more badass than what we got
For real
Also thick
Even if they did do Killer Frost they would've probably fucked the design up
Even Killer Frost can't save the game from lack of mission variety and the game-design problem it has.
ah, but she doesn’t use guns, so they wouldn’t lol
it’s so lame
I found her name clownpuncher the person who voices Mrs. freeze is Kelly Hu. And you're right she deserves plenty of praise.
Having Stacy from _Phineas and Ferb_ voicing a villain is wild.
@@JamesGilbert_well, she actually has voiced a villain already. Kelly Hu has voiced Karai in the 2012 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series, and she was a villain for a season and a half before joining the turtles side. So, yeah, fun fact.
@@jaykearson I always separate art from artist. Voice actors always deserve love and respect, even when they play characters we despise. Kelly Hu deserves praise for her voice, but the character does not.
She has also voiced Lady Shiva in Batman Arkham Origins and D'vorah in Mortal Kombat X
@@Wolfe1939 now that I know that I'm glad she has experience working with Warner Bros. I really hope Lady Shiva is at least mentioned in Arkham shadow.
Watching this video is the closest I will get to playing the new season
Same here
It would have made more sense to be Killer Frost since she is commonly a member of the Suicide Squad. I don’t know if Mrs. Freeze has existed before this game and was on the Squad but I know for sure that Killer Frost usually is
She existed, but not in this form. In the comics she's Victoria Fries- Victor and Nora's daughter. Not Ellen DeGeneres in a Mr Freeze cosplay.
I really dont get why they couldn't just give us somone like killer frost, that would have been way better than female mr freeze.
Frosty doesn't have the PR of a famous Batman villain
I'm pretty sure Rocksteady will pick what their shareholders think will sell well, that is, everything Batman
SSKTJL is on a track record of creating the worst version of every DC character
Didnt even watch the video before commenting huh
Shit Squad Kill the Joker's Legacy
@@ksa7621 They never do
How is this worse than the OG Mr Freeze where he’s just a glorified goon with a gun and a garish suit?
@@LonelyGamer4 Because killer frost would've been a better alternative to this. Not everything has to be from a different universe that is barely even known.
Why did they make it look like Mrs. Freeze ate something she’s allergic to?
She kinda looks like a Karen which is why the people have dubbed her Karen ice also if they did have to make a gender bent mr freeze I would have liked it if they had Nora as the one trying to save her significant other and victor as the one who is frozen because Nora never gets that much character development if any she's always just frozen in that pod
Honestly when I heard that a Mrs. Freeze was being added to the game I legit thought she was gonna be a version of Nora trying to save victor as in her universe she was the scientist and victor was the one that got sick and has to be frozen. As that does sound more interesting than a gender bent version of victor
Idk why they did not do that.
@@milkedmilk well obviously not that Nora I'm talking about having it be an alternate Nora
Yeah, it seems kinda weird that they would rather genderbend the male character into a strong female archetype instead of expanding on the existing female character that was in (almost all) other versions present as a literal block of ice. I would have been down for Nora taking on the mantle of Mrs. Fries and there would have been so many opportunities to expand on her character and show the differences between her and her husband
@@simondigruber2111because the developers dont Care about the original material, and they neded the LGBT REP
Also a nother problem is that when we free batman in future sessions it's he going to have a mental breakdown in the fact that his evil clone killed Tim his son like what's Gona happen with that ??? Like what
Tim isn't confirmed dead
@@quintonheimann but it's highly implied
@@Luna-light212 all the evidence for Tim being dead is also evidence that he's alive
You dig multiverses too?
The thing is that it was always planned to revive the league but Sefton hill was fresh off the infinity war hype and decided to remove all the hints ingame that it’s clones leading to what we got.
Defenders going so far to defend this failure as to blame someone who left the company years ago wow
Brodie Sefton left in about early development. fuck all of the arkham developers left during this time with totally new writers and shit.
Both "clone theory is a cop-out" and "clone theory fixes everything" are valid simultaneously. This is because while people will be glad the mess was cleaned up, the writers shouldn't have made one to begin with.
For the Braniac fight, they NEED to make the ceiling taller. Playing it as the Joker is AGONY because his verticality causes him to constantly smack the roof and ragdoll without being able to recover until hitting the ground like a dead fish
I'm noticing a lack of new villian squad members being added in this game.
the 2 new released ones are just alternate universe versions of characters who had their story ended.
The closest we get to someone new is deadshots daughter for the next season but I wanna know who actually cares about her.
Most of the new villains are only named in notorious guns.
Not even a appearance
The Clone Theory definitely wasn't planned from the start 😂 This game was too serious about Batman's death for that
Part of me wants to play this game because it looks fun, but then I remember the grind and all it’s flaws that I have to go through to get the best time with it, and I am now confident in avoiding it, even if it gives me reason to enjoy it.
Here’s my question: Was the justice league we killed clones or were mind controlled and brainiac simply brought them back to life? I’m asking because the dialogue of the squad gives (combined with the fact Flash has both of his thumbs) would imply that we legitimately did kill and brainiac was simply able to bring them back from the dead.
Although if that’s the case, I have to wonder how brainiac is going to bring Batman and Green Lantern back to life. Sure you can give someone a prosthetic thumb, but those two had their brains blasted out.
Also how does the clone scenario explain the scene where the Flash is able to break from his brainwashing for a second when compelled by the lasso? Doesn’t that imply that that is the real Flash??
got my wisdom teeth and other teeth out, clown puncher save me from this pain
Honestly I would like you to talk about whether the story means anything now that clone theory is true
no multiverse story should even remotely exist in the arkham-verse
No multiverse story should exist period,it always ends in bad writing
@@badasscrusader not really, no.
@@JigenDaisuke-wh2nd name one that doesn't have massive plot holes due to the multiverse
@@badasscrusader Injustice.
@JigenDaisuke-wh2nd well that already sucks so it not having plot hole related to the multiverse is not a good example
Why is Wanker Bros making mediocre Season passes? Are they stupid?
@@Lavollager is there a lore reason Wanker Bros is still supporting this game?
@@ashernotheis76why won’t they make a new Arkham game on console? Are they stupid?
It should had been Killer Frost
It's slightly better and that's about it!
So basically, they took the story that everyone hated said "Whoops! Sorry everyone!" and now we have the potential to actually get a halfway decent Arkham series follow up assuming they can get their head out of their rear ends. That's good, I guess?
Nothing even "fixing" this will even bring it remotely close to the Arkham series
@@MikeSandersonVideos I did say halfway decent
I don’t mind seeing genderbent versions of characters from the Multiverse (in fact, I think it would’ve been pretty interesting if her entire universe was gender bent just for the novelty of seeing how confused Victoria would be by the notion of Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman), but it is still pretty weird that they went with gender, bending Mr. freeze when they could’ve taken killer frost who is also a ice themed scientist super villain. Not to mention, she could help expand the law of Barry Allen in this universe since we would have another flash villain.
7:57 My presumed guess for Miss Freeze’s VA would be Sara Carvens, who ironically played Frost in MK11. And this isn’t her first time voicing a DC Character as she Voiced Power Girl in Injustice 2. As for her other roles, she voiced Boom Bloom in Skylanders and Hildr in God of War (2018).
P.S: if I’m 100% wrong, then I’ll redo what’s been written above.
Edit: I’ve seen Kelly Hu be thrown around as the Voice Actress for Miss Freeze, granted I might have to look into it.
7:04 yeah this kind of thing bugs me, like if youre gonna make a female version of a male character it just feels weird to give her the most stereotypically masc female look
Why wasn’t it Nora Freeze so we could see her love for her husband like we’ve seen with Victor for her.
It's nice to see some positivity with this season, compared to the fan-reaction to the last one (which was justified). I hope that things keep getting better.
The game should has called suicide squad vs the justice league, that would make much more sense and maybe take some inspirating from another suicide squad comic named "Suicide squad vs the justice league" where Waller is using the squad to neutralize and capture the justice league members.
When will Riddler, Two Face, The Penguin, Killer Croc be in this game?
The next character will be Killer Crock in a wheelchair
My plan is just wait till all the updates are done so i can enjoy unlocking all the characters at once. The updates are lacking but the characters themselves make up for it. I can't wait to see the other characters
Back when the clone theory was first going around, I said this and I still stick by it: I don't think it helps anything. One of the few things this story had going for it was the fact that they did something as gutsy as killing off the League, and now they're taking that away. In the comics, they're never going to kill off the League permanently, but in a game they could, and yet they still chose not to. It makes it feel more generic and seems to go against the general atmosphere the game had. But I also don't think most people who hated the story are going to be won over by this. The damage has already been done; it's not like the fact that the League were clones recontextualizes what happened in any way. Harley still shot Batman on a park bench, even if it wasn't the "real" Batman.
The only difference this makes will be if they want to move forward and make another game in this universe. And honestly (given this game's reception), I don't think that's a good idea. This was not the game to give us if you wanted to follow it up with a Justice League game. And even without this game, I'm not sure it was ever going to make sense to expand the Arkhamverse to include all of DLC. The Arkhamverse had plenty of crazy elements, but it still feels like a stretch for that Batman to join up with aliens, magicians, and demigods. And where Batman was at the end of Arkham Knight, it didn't really feel like Batman was in a position where joining the League would make sense. The Arkhamverse should have ended or gone in its own direction, and if DC wanted a Justice League game, it should have been in its own universe.
I really hope if we someday do get a true sequel or spin off to the Arkham series, this game will be completely ignored and considered non canon
Thankyou because atleast your video's helps to Atleast get's me updated
Suicide squad: kill the franchise
I am slightly impressed, Good job ssktjl!
SSKTJL, being a game that you can handle without dying of boredom? Impossible.
So with WW, I think they probably intend to bring her back somehow. Flash is kept in a pod by Waller, and those pods have little logos representing the JL heroes. There's one for WW, so I imagine they have some plan for her to be in said pod
How is her Nora still alive?
Im personally liking this season more than the last one, probably cause I like snowy maps and I’m starting to like miss freeze but killer frost would have been a way better character
Look since clone theory is right I think Wonder woman could come back. Maybe when we've been able to save every captured Justic Leauge member we'll probably find tech on Brainiacs ship that has an ability to clone a new version of her or the one that died was actually a clone.
It should've been killer frost imo
After all of this is over with, Task Force X is going to rescue the League members one at a time, introduce a more fanservice-y version of Wonder Woman (Probably DCAU or Linda Carter inspired), then the League kicks all of their butt's easily because they're the "Real Deal" and the game ends on a high note because the Justice League gets set up for their own game.
Obviously a JL game would be great!
However... They should have just started with that, since this game is almost confirmed to be a $70 spin-off prequel to something coming up next.
For all Miles Morales' writing problems, at least it cost $20 less than Spider-Man, and $30 less the the game following it.
Tbh they probably intended to stick with killing them at first but backed out last second, either due to corporate or public outcry.
That dual-fight thing with Brainiac should have been done day one though, simple way to enhance the fight.
It was the entire plan to keep the Justice League alive smh 🤦♂️. This was confirmed literally before the game even released bud
The whole clone reveal at this point nobody cares that’s just how things are gonna be also all the story bits still counts boomerang did want to piss on the real flash’s corps, Harley lecturing Batman when she helped kill a bunch of kindergarteners with joker , wonder woman’s death, Luther’s stupidity and it also cuts the only good scene in the game , the scene where Diana interrogated flash, it’s over no one wants to comeback and with good reason too
I think you could do a mrs freeze in a kind of interesting way if you made her Nora. Maybe Victor is the one who gets sick and Nora has to step up to help him. Sure it would be better to just do Captain Cold or Killer Frost, but if you absolutely must have Freeze then making it Nora could be interesting.
You get like nine levels just for reaching level 62 or 64 in killing time, so the grind is significantly shorter doing killing time.
Im happy for the story element to get the JL back
Will you ever review the Lego Batman games Clownpuncher
It's nice to see that people are still holding out hope for a game this trash. I hope the servers stay on past January 2025
Apparently Sara Cravens voices Ms. Freeze, it says so on the scrappy fandom website.
Edit: Well now I don't know what to believe because I read another comment that says she was voiced by Kelly Hu. 🤷♂
That's not the worst part
Telling through in game talk that Flash is Alive, We saving him via Slideshow and having more expose via tapes from Riddler
Man they saved the flush
I didn't like her design when I saw the leak; but looking at her in-game, I think she looks pretty cool! I don't like the ice hair though, kinda weird. And her personality and motivations are quite faithful to Mr. Freeze in general. Which is actually impressive coming from the current Rocksteady who took Arkham Harley and turned her into Margot Robbie (except a worse version of her take).
Still not giving them my money, I prefer to watch this mess from the sidelines lol
i think this game shows promise, and it could be improved the only issue is they are starting at the bottom.
how many times can you beat the same guy till it just gets old
don't know why but I'm still holding out hope for this game.
Sadly they arent clones, at one point braniac mentions how flash is gonna have a mental breakdown once he discovers what he's done, that sudjests that he is in fact the same as the real one.
Now that the clone theory is confirmed, i really want a justice league game in this universe. Ik kevin is dead (Rip) but we have Roger Craig Smith (who is voicing Batman in Arkham shadows) who can voice our caped crusader!
All Roger Craig Smith needs to do is just sound like how Kevin did or at least be similar.
We need more strong butches in games hell yeah
Ultimately if this was ALL in main game it could be genuienly interesting story. At the end they will probably team up with Justice League and they will stop final Brainiac leading up to the Justice League game. If it wasnt looter shooter and had all this storytelling in single story and not in DLC season's this game would succeed and be solid in my opinion. And those cheap scenes and audio log storytelling should be replaced with cutscenes, where the hell did the budget for this game go, on what exactly? And squad should have been little bit more interesting, on example Joker, Deathstroke should have been starting character's
i mean the am e was shit but i think if they saved all jl member ,they gonna fight brainic together and win and then they try do kill the REAL jl, still GREAT VIDEO
They learned thier lesson with the jonkler and got a great voice for Mrs freeze.
I was going to say that making Mrs. Freeze Nora would ruin her happy ending Arkham Knight. Then I remembered that SS:KTJL introduced the multiverse in the Arkham series just to get away with bastardizing these characters. So they could have made this Nora without ruining the ending of In From The Cold.
Well we can at least say something is, quote unquote, "Better" but that doesn't seem like a high bar. I can at least hope we get to play as Flash soon. Like as much $h!7 Multiversus gets, it at least doesn't look as bad as this.
It's also funny how LEGO Batman 3 is a much better game with Brainiac as the villain than the big game with battle passes and stuff, Bruce and Robert continue to show superiority. (Seriously, if you haven't seen "The Adventures of Bruce and Robert" by Eyezayar, you definitely should, it's the entire reason I even thought about LB3 and SSKtJL in the same way)
Is it bad that I watch all the way through the second iceberg video at least once a week?
I think u should do Arkham lore. That would be a lot of fun to see. But hey, u do u.
Only took me like a little over 2 hours to unlock Freeze and rescue The Flash. I had fun but this game still has the same issues
It’s so boring just playing the same 4 missions from the main game with reskins. Freeze plays really well she’s pretty fun but like WHO IS THIS CHARACTER MADE FOR?? It’s a gender swap of one of the most favorite Batman villains 1 that has had a great presence in this universe. It’s stupid and obviously just screams hey sweet baby Inc is still here being stupid. Killer Frost was literally right there and the fact that all they did was just make weapons after her is beyond dumb when it should’ve been reverse. Killer Frost as the playable character and Mr Freeze weapon sets. It’s so dumb
It’s nice to see that the leak of the JL in the actual game being evil clones is nice to see knowing that the heroes are actually still alive and didn’t get disrespected which I always figured but happy to see confirmed. They really need to just cut their loses with this game and say it’s non canon so much wasted potential.
I don't think there were clones at all, beside Brainiac using his 1st terminaut to integrate himself to change into the league members, and I rewatched the duality intro cutscene and also remembered when killing the league the bodies were phased away, and what do we see in the comic cutscene, Green Lantern's body with the purple veins around the eyes, with his middle finger being regenerated and his ring with water around it in a container, as long as the bodies were on the skull ship, their DNA were passed onto the enemies also check Batman Arkham Videos Batman Comms video, which could have foreshadowed superman infused forces. Also those speed force mines are the same from the original flash fight just more lethal than before and can be stopped with grenades, along with a freezing thunderclap instead of a venom frenzy thunderclap like in the original Superman fight and episode 2 Brainiac, and I think superman made icicles on the ground too
10:51 No they still did all of that, just because they are clones don’t detract at all how the squad treated them. The clones still contain the original’s memories as shown through Wonder Woman’s Lasso and still feel things for their friends while under mind control. By this logic, it’s fine to treat Ben Rilley poorly because he’s a clone of Peter Parker.
I honestly enjoy playing this game regardless of the negativity it gets
Hey clownpuncher in your batman AK boss rush at 32 minutes on your winning croc run you lose the. Challenge by punching a henchman I'm sorry for telling you this
Mrs freeze aslo plays lady shiva from origins not even lying dude,karai from tmnt 2012,and stacy from phineas and ferb.
Definitely a good voice actor to bring into the cast
But im still hating this game sorry not sorry
I would be more happy if it was Nora and Victor was the one in the tube.
I'm just so mad right now because they didn't they might have watched this???
Destiny 2 player here.
Mrs. Freeze very much sounds like Erika Ishii, the current VA for Ana Bray. I'd bet money on it
Kelly Hull, sorry mate, shouldn’t have bet money 😅
I am honestly not happy to have batman back. With kevin conroy gone it will just feel soulless again.
Though if Wonder Woman doesnt come back thats like *the one* female leaguer gone.
I don’t even care about this Shit Game, I just like your videos
I enjoyed this season more than season 1 but it sucks that this game is dying before they fix it (hopefully they do)
I saw all the Arkham skins from the previous games and really wanted to get them and play the game again tgen i realised it was like £50 and i just gave up instantly
You forget the golden rule of comics. If you are popular enough, you are not dead. You are merely taking a break from screen time. I'm not saying it's good. I'm not saying it's bad. It's kind of in the middle.
Wow ur not just ragging on the game and actually giving a decent review of everything?! Kudos to u sir 👏🏾
If they had to do Mrs Freeze, it shoud've been Nora, not a female Victor
By the time they reach 13th brainiac all of the Batman villains will be trashed😂
I know this game sucks. But if we look at it as it forever will be cannon to the arkham verse i hope and pray this game gets better and they dont leave it unfinished. I know we all meme and hate on this game and i agree its bad and a quick cash grab but we dont get much dc content so i can only hope and pray they continue to improve this cluster fuck
Oh yes! The crappy Arkham Batman’s coming back!
I kinda wanna see clown puncher react to under the mayos take on arkham knight
TBH if the game was just the story mode no live service crap and they would of said it wasnt canon to the arkham games the game wouldve been at least a 6 out of ten and not a 2
I suspect the entire "save the flash" part was due to the backlash of the original game.
They, not sure who they are, realized killing the most popular heroes before we ever got to play as them would kill the franchise so they did a quick back peddle.
I do agree with you that it feels kind of pointless. They couldn't commit either way.
11:45 No it doesn’t, these are meant to prefect clones that are meant to be stronger, faster with the gained intellect of Brainiac than their original counterparts. This is flat out worse cause this just the game telling you the squad beated a better version of the real Justice League.
Since this game sucks, I’m just happy that its embarrassing story had little to no relevance.
I got a better idea for the deaths of the Justice league , let's ignore the games existence not being connected to the arkham verse
Compare these two seasons to the next expansion that is being released for Mortal Kombat 1 and this is a perfect example of understanding the seasoned system of releasing story structure all the characters that are playable in the storyline released day one same time you unlock them within the story instantaneously the guest characters who are not important to the storyline their release date is? Which is understandable I mean they're not important to the storyline they can stay in the oven as long as possible you don't care!
And the great example is they had a out and they never bothered to use it which was the alternate costumes and the fact that we're visiting alternate worlds these could have all been failed suicide team squats! Release Joker release 3 costume packs making three other characters that you're forced to play with in those costumes different characters give King shark a costume and where he's replaced with Solomon Grundy we know we're never going to get him a series, I let other people suggest other people that we've been replaced for other characters with costumes beyond replacing dead shot with the people that dead shot was replaced with in the sequels!
It's a cop out yeah, but at least Arkham Batman didn't go out like a bitch😊
I’ve not even played the game yet I still want a refund.
Well this was better than season 1 but not by much. Wb seriously needs to let rocksteady create an actual good game but I’m just happy the real justice league is alive even if they were kinda character assassinated. (Seriously why did Batman join the league when he did knight fall for a reason?!) anyway hopefully they keep this up but knowing wb, I don’t know if they will…
If i would rewirte it to where batman never joined the league but shows up as the nt corrupted hero instead of wonder woman
Brainiac took over the justice league and batman comes out of the shadow maybe even helping task force X
And the last 5 years it was assumed batman/bruce died during knight
Atleast that's how i would have done it,
@@nicktb1999 Yeah. Have Batman stay presumed dead but is forced to come out of hiding one last time to stop brainiac. And of course having him die like Wonder Woman did and treated with respect would be much better than the crap of him dying by HARLEY FREAKING QUINN!
@@DallasReimer i would have done it where batman survives but maybe gets injured and stays at the hall of justice guiding the suicide squad to help stop brainiac
Then once brianiac is dealt with and the justice league is back batman still refuses to the offer to join the league and goes back to gotham
I just feel like arkham batman woulsnt join the league
(But that's my take)
@@nicktb1999 Yeah but if he has to die then giving him Wonder Woman’s death is probably the best route to go. But yeah this version of Batman definitely wouldn’t join the league especially after knight. He’s a Batman that prefers to work alone even with the bat family so I don’t see his Batman joining a whole team of other superheroes.
You know it’s a shame there’s no new game plus mode for this game that allows you to replay the bass story. Don’t get it wrong. The story is shit, but imagine if once all the DLC characters come out you could’ve played through the game with them.
you could fight the justice league as joker, Mrs. freeze, deadshots, daughter, and deathstroke. Sure it’s mostly the same gameplay, but at least it would be an option.
@@comicfan1324 You can replay any mission at any time as any character.
Captain cold was the based for this game