The ROG Ally is a Buggy Mess (but i kinda love it)

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  • Опубліковано 2 лют 2025

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  • @TakiUdon
    @TakiUdon  Рік тому +150

    I'm currently daily driving this and will keep an eye out for further software updates for the full review!

    • @thomasbehning461
      @thomasbehning461 Рік тому +4

      Thank you for the round trip!

    • @ezg8448
      @ezg8448 Рік тому +2

      It's the cooling and screen that really sold me on this device.
      Even though this device is a bit slower than the other 7840U handhelds on indiegogo, FSR easily makes up for that difference for better usability.

    • @ZONAWOLF
      @ZONAWOLF Рік тому +1

      How does this compare to the A1 Pro? The custom ally chip seems to cut cost and allows the 7840u to beat it.

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  Рік тому +5

      About the same. The section going over if this is custom or not has a benchmark that was done with the A1 Pro.

    • @ZONAWOLF
      @ZONAWOLF Рік тому

      @Taki Udon Thanks. I'll go back over it. Overall for 800 vs the 700, would you recommend the A1 pro? Better yet, can you do a comparison video since they're very close is cost to performance?

  • @datpspguy
    @datpspguy Рік тому +27

    honestly this is a very thorough review, the time and dedication put into not only getting the device but also stress testing it through different scenarios makes it that much better for us consumers on launch day.. Thank you

    • @ecoffey71
      @ecoffey71 Рік тому

      I can't believe I have to explain this to you kids.Testing aaa games is what u want tested.if a game like cyberpunk 2077 will run more then likely a pos game like mine craft will run.trust me I know this.i most likely was playing atari 2600 b4 you were swimming in your dad's nutsack.pixalated games don't take much to run

  • @rsorry
    @rsorry Рік тому +18

    Very nice review, I pre-ordered one and am stoked. Most of the games I wanna play will require at least 15w so I don't have any issue with that but those software bugs need to be fixed asap 🔥

  • @stevepetrovich1169
    @stevepetrovich1169 Рік тому +92

    Thank you for testing a wide range of games! Other channels are testing mostly AAA games. Hope ASUS irons out some of these bugs before release

    • @radioactivebob1
      @radioactivebob1 Рік тому +6

      Was my exact thought, i saw borderlands 3 and actually got excited it was included, and fallout 4.

    • @mechanicalmonk2020
      @mechanicalmonk2020 Рік тому +5

      ​@@radioactivebob1 how the heck is BL3 not considered a AAA game?

    • @Whatsup_Abroad
      @Whatsup_Abroad Рік тому +7

      @MechanicalMonk I think they really mean to say, newly released AAA games, because any AAA game 3 years or older plays like butter on most pc handhelds.

    • @mylanthony
      @mylanthony Рік тому

      Like Asus would care about customers

  • @j350zr7
    @j350zr7 Рік тому +9

    Great review/overview. Most ROG Ally reviews show only usable footage and I'm sure they've encountered bugs along the way but only quickly dismissed them. Your video was done extremely well with no BS and was straight to the point. Thank you. I believe these are just teething issues and should be resolved a couple of months after the release date.

  • @seizuresaladventures
    @seizuresaladventures Рік тому +6

    Thank you for your preview/review, Taki! You say it as it is - and I appreciate you for that.

  • @tomoprime217
    @tomoprime217 Рік тому +25

    Taki remember if you set the display to 60hz it locks you into v-sync and you cannot use variable refresh rate which this device supports! This may affect the frame limiter! Edit: noted on Digital Foundry if I recall.

    • @Artanis5
      @Artanis5 Рік тому +1

      Which basically means you must never user refresh rate limiter. Why does it even exist?

    • @dumkopf
      @dumkopf Рік тому

      ​@@Artanis5 you mean why does the screen support 60hz?

    • @LayerZeroDesign
      @LayerZeroDesign Рік тому +4

      ​@@Artanis5 there really is no need with VRR honestly. You can still set a framerate cap, and VRR will just automatically vary the refresh rate on its own. I guess in a desktop environment / web browsing etc it will use more power, but in that situation you don't need VRR anyway so you can just set refresh rate lower.

  • @schtoltheimreinbach
    @schtoltheimreinbach Рік тому +4

    This is the best review of the ally. Got mine preordered

  • @MrMagicAmmo
    @MrMagicAmmo Рік тому +14

    I heard some reviews say you have to kinda hold it with your palms on the top of those edges and then its really comfortable

  • @glennshoemake4200
    @glennshoemake4200 Рік тому +22

    I was playing Lost Planet 2 on my Onexplayer 5800u 8.4 inch screen at 2560x1600 yesterday and it made me realize there is no rush to upgrade to the latest and greatest as there are so many fun games to play without worrying about trying to play brand new games.

    • @mechanicalmonk2020
      @mechanicalmonk2020 Рік тому +1

      Ding ding ding. Exactly.
      If you go from 30fps low settings to 40fps low settings on the latest AAA games, it's not really a benefit is it?

    • @adpbobcat
      @adpbobcat Рік тому +1

      How do you like your onexplayer? I've been looking at it and the Aokzoe a1 pro

    • @glennshoemake4200
      @glennshoemake4200 Рік тому

      @@adpbobcat I honestly play the Steam Deck more, but the Onexplayer has an amazing screen and much better analog triggers than Steam Deck. Also Windows 11 updates are a pain as I boot directly into Bigbox as my launcher and try to forget Windows is being used. I use it for non Steam games and games that require a lot of mods / patches which makes it easier than Steam Deck as my time is very limited for gaming.
      I bought a massive battery brick and a long usbc cable and put the battery on the floor when I'm playing on the couch and have no issues with battery life.

  • @potato2018
    @potato2018 Рік тому +39

    From what I read, Asus is already working on fixes and improvements to the device so that it's ready for consumers when it ships. So I have hope that some of the bugs will be fixed and everything.

    • @franciscofredviana743
      @franciscofredviana743 Рік тому +5

      But you can't fix that big border on the screen. It's 2023, it's time for Bord less screen on premium devices.

    • @alonsom8977
      @alonsom8977 Рік тому +15

      ​@@franciscofredviana743 Nobody cares.

    • @JavierSegura
      @JavierSegura Рік тому +7

      @@franciscofredviana743 The price range for premium devices is $1200, this is not a premium device, but it can compete against them.
      @potato20 Also nah, Asus won't have all fixes ready by launch. Problems will persist, this is not Valve.

    • @chriswright8074
      @chriswright8074 Рік тому +2

      @@franciscofredviana743 actually no borders help protect the screen

    • @potato2018
      @potato2018 Рік тому +5

      @JavierSegura I never said all the problems would be fixed. But I read they are trying to do their best at trying to fix bugs and stuff from reviewers' feedback.

  • @gianlucaangeli
    @gianlucaangeli Рік тому +40

    the big question is: do we trust Asus to give it a good long term support? Like Valve made a custom shader compiler for Elden Ring to make it run better on Steam Deck. I don't see Asus doing anything like that.

    • @lilrockstar77
      @lilrockstar77 Рік тому +11

      There is no company like that at all. That’s why it’s good that this is an x86 machine. Steams support extendeds beyond their hardware

    • @lilrockstar77
      @lilrockstar77 Рік тому +4

      In short the point you make is a non issue

    • @ThaexakaMavro
      @ThaexakaMavro Рік тому +11

      simple answer is no just look at their smartphones lol

    • @lilrockstar77
      @lilrockstar77 Рік тому +4

      If it’s someone looking to get the simplest experience I’d say steam deck over this all day. But if you are ok with tinkering. Steam os will be a thing that will be available if not now via 3 party soon

    • @xMRxLAMAx
      @xMRxLAMAx Рік тому +2

      @@ThaexakaMavro that’s why you shouldn’t buy androids

  • @JittikMieger
    @JittikMieger Рік тому +67

    The Steam Deck had bugs at launch, but the software of the Ally is just about as good as your average AAA game at launch...

    • @mechanicalmonk2020
      @mechanicalmonk2020 Рік тому +20

      The real issue isn't that it's buggy. The real issue is that there's no reason to suspect that it'll get better

    • @inquisitive5418
      @inquisitive5418 Рік тому +13

      ​@@mechanicalmonk2020 exactly. I don't find any reason to change my steam deck to this piece of terrible performance. 8trfs compare to 1.6trfs on steam deck and I found not a big difference in performance. Is a shite piece of technic

    • @MateoElFidel
      @MateoElFidel Рік тому +8

      @@mechanicalmonk2020 Not to mention, Asus is a hardware company, while Valve is primarily a software company, and you can sort of see how that difference manifests in the products that they've put out so far. ROG is definitely a powerhouse compared to the deck, but the amount of work that Valve has put into the Steam and SteamOS software over the past year has been very admirable. Even a year later they're still pumping out weekly updates for the deck and I'm quite happy with that.
      What I would LOVE to see is when SteamOS becomes an open build and we can put it on the ROG Ally.

    • @Whatsup_Abroad
      @Whatsup_Abroad Рік тому +5

      @@inquisitive5418 Npt to mention that these windows handhelds are miserable to use without a keyboard and mouse. The only ones worth the money are the GPD devices.

    • @getsmack
      @getsmack Рік тому +13

      Wow even steam has fanboys 😂😂😂😂

  • @Goalier95
    @Goalier95 Рік тому +61

    I gots the Steam Deck and love it but will also be getting the Ally... I'm just a gaming handheld junkie. Next year Alienware and Razer needs to have their own portables... Xbox portable maybe?

    • @dimes305
      @dimes305 Рік тому +1

      Razer already has the Razer edge

    • @Goalier95
      @Goalier95 Рік тому +1

      @@dimes305 yeah, but it's Android(?) or cloud based? Windows PC handhelds is the hotness.

    • @dimes305
      @dimes305 Рік тому

      @@Goalier95 true I think there should be a windows handheld for 400 $700 is a bit much

    • @Goalier95
      @Goalier95 Рік тому +4

      @@dimes305 yep, more companies, more competition and hopefully cheaper prices.. win for everyone.

    • @e2rqey
      @e2rqey Рік тому +2

      I just want a 7840u version of the GPD Win 4 or the 7840u version of the GPD Win 2 Max

  • @ChadKenova
    @ChadKenova Рік тому +42

    Anyone who got a deck day one will remember how buggy it was it took many updates to get it where it is now. Just give the ally some time and I think its gonna be a great handheld.

    • @ryansookram4023
      @ryansookram4023 Рік тому +16

      Idk if asus is gonna keep working on the ally the same way steam kept at the steam deck especially given asus lack of support for a lot of their devices

    • @juhadexcelsior
      @juhadexcelsior Рік тому +16

      Asus is notoriously bad with software updates though

    • @r8420hp
      @r8420hp Рік тому +12

      As someone who had an Asus ROG motherboard, don't get your hopes up. Armory Crate is and always was buggy and bloated, and Asus done nothing about it for years.

    • @bionic-beaver
      @bionic-beaver Рік тому +10

      When you guys are going to understand that the Deck can be improved at OS and Kernel level while the best Asus can do is working on drivers and maybe Armoury Crate?

    • @Jaxv3r
      @Jaxv3r Рік тому +2

      @@bionic-beaver yeah that's good thing with the steam deck, it has much more ease of use and also the company basically controls anything, Asus probably 20%? of the software, unless Windows made their own windows handheld

  • @itisWhatitis12345
    @itisWhatitis12345 Рік тому +2

    Love the attention to detail like the texture

  • @matthewcullen3486
    @matthewcullen3486 Рік тому +2

    The freesync with low framerate compensation is what tipped me over. Also most reviews don't go into the benefits of having freesync. They barely touch on it.

  • @StormBurnX
    @StormBurnX Рік тому +2

    7:09 I know this is COMPLETELY off topic but damn. Seeing that Spiral Knights icon (lower right) really made my day. What a throwback to when I first got into steam in ~2011. I remember being a broke college kid and looking at interesting cheap/free things to play with my friends between classes, and that game easily was the second-most played (after terarria) for me. TF2 probably would have been more nostalgic to me but my laptop couldn't even run it, so spiral knights was my go-to :P

  • @fat3lwound
    @fat3lwound Рік тому +8

    With all the Asus products I’ve had in the past, I’d predict a good 6mths of support after purchase.

    • @TheSixthSLoT
      @TheSixthSLoT Рік тому +1

      That's exactly what I'm hesitant about. The best indicator of what a company will do in the future is looking to what they've done in the past. ASUS is likely to do just as you said, although I have see them support their laptops for up to a year. So 6-12 months is a fair prediction. That's another reason why I'm considering the Steam Deck instead. I know Valve supports the sh*t out of that thing, and will continue to for the foreseeable future

    • @Tigerhearty
      @Tigerhearty Рік тому +1

      after 6 months they will stop supporting it because a lot of people are going to refund it.

    • @Jur1_00
      @Jur1_00 Рік тому

      @@TheSixthSLoT that’s why I waited a year to get the steam deck so I can see the kind of support it get. And even if Valve stop supporting the steam deck you know they’re are community members that will carry on

  • @Pridetoons
    @Pridetoons Рік тому +30

    The ROG Ally is a Buggy Mess right now. The Steam Deck was the same way when it was first released. I'm pretty sure ASUS will fix these issues in future updates.

    • @Montisaquadeis
      @Montisaquadeis Рік тому +3

      @@kadupse All they can do is report "bugs" back to Microsoft and HOPE they address them with WIndows Updates

    • @Pridetoons
      @Pridetoons Рік тому +7

      ​@@kadupse Another reason to hate Microsoft. This is why I get mad at developers for not acknowledging Linux as a gaming platform.

    • @seeibe
      @seeibe Рік тому +3

      @@kadupse Exactly. Many of the issues with Windows have existed for years and haven't been fixed. If the Ally gets them to fix those issues finally I'll be happy, but somehow I doubt it..

    • @oladipupodurotimi4754
      @oladipupodurotimi4754 Рік тому +2

      @Kadu Penuela this. Steam os was made from the ground up and made specifically for steam deck while windows is more tailored towards beefy pc.

    • @3godzilla3
      @3godzilla3 Рік тому +1

      @@Pridetoons Right, but then you don't get 100% compatibility with all Steam games. Would much rather play my games and deal with a few small less important bugs (which all have to do with ease of use than anything, and not the games themselves).

  • @cyclonmaster
    @cyclonmaster Рік тому +1

    definitely gonna get one for myself...this is best laptop alternatif

  • @allenjones8590
    @allenjones8590 Рік тому

    I’m waiting on mine and I can’t stop watching reviews

  • @nomaschalupas2453
    @nomaschalupas2453 Рік тому

    Performance mode has been updated to run way better then before. Turbo is also more stable when not plugged in on the newest bios.

  • @sir.fender6034
    @sir.fender6034 Рік тому +2

    Most of the bugs you encountered have one thing in common, It's usually controller (HID) related. My guess is that a driver needs to be worked on and improved before release. Great video!

  • @TechThusiast
    @TechThusiast Рік тому +14

    Got my order in already. Will make a bunch of Emulation videos. 😎

    • @gouravburnpur
      @gouravburnpur Рік тому +4

      Can you please make switch emulation videos

    • @TechThusiast
      @TechThusiast Рік тому +2

      @@gouravburnpur sure thing

    • @slickrik302
      @slickrik302 Рік тому +1

      Just subscribed. Look forward to those emulation videos.

    • @TechThusiast
      @TechThusiast Рік тому +1

      @@slickrik302 cool, will most likely be on my 2nd channel

  • @meleecraft
    @meleecraft Рік тому

    I was waiting for this video,
    now that it's here, I'm not waiting anymore 👍🏾

  • @KB-fc1dk
    @KB-fc1dk Рік тому

    Thanks for the impressions, especially the current software bugs are interesting

  • @WagnersTechTalk
    @WagnersTechTalk Рік тому

    Great review Taki! I've got one on pre-order, wish I could get one in my hands sooner to review 😎

  • @Joeybatz33
    @Joeybatz33 Рік тому +3

    Awesome hands on impressions. Asus will definitely try to fix these issues I'm sure with updates. I'll be patient with it but I'm exited to get mine day 1 🔥

    • @psvitaoled197
      @psvitaoled197 Рік тому +2

      It’s asus, they’re not great with service that’s it’s main problem.

  • @MadDarthMatt
    @MadDarthMatt Рік тому +15

    I've seen a user mode for the power output, so you can set it how you want.

    • @MadDarthMatt
      @MadDarthMatt Рік тому +1

      Being a Windows device, the chances are good that it was updating when things were going out on you. I hate Windows doesnt tell you when it is updating.

    • @MadDarthMatt
      @MadDarthMatt Рік тому +1

      You have to change settings like fps limit before you go in game

  • @aidenwright3091
    @aidenwright3091 Рік тому +7

    Would you say just keeping it plugged in on charge would be the best way to get the most performance for those more demanding games

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  Рік тому +5

      Yes, that's why I'll use this mostly with a portable charger in the bag.

    • @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr
      @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr Рік тому

      Why do you need to be plugged in and get lesser performance when handhelds like the Win Max2 give you higher performance with longer battery life?

  • @masamasa1815
    @masamasa1815 Рік тому +2

    I pre-ordered this and am excited for it but I'm going to be honest here. I think the steam deck is going to distroy this thing in sales. The problem with this Asus handheld is windows. You would be surprised to learn that a growing amount of people are becoming more windows illiterate as time goes. In a world where people are increasingly using their incredibly easy to use smartphones especially apple phones, windows is becoming increasingly cumbersome for many. Digging into settings, updating drivers, fixing issues in device manager for instance is not exactly a streamlined thing in windows. I think many people who aren't big PC users or who aren't already PC gamers are going to find this handheld overwhelming. The steam deck is so much more pick up and play, it makes PC gaming as approachable as it's ever been. Console gaming has taken off through the years because you put your game in and play, PC gaming has just never been quite that easy. This is all just my opinion of course but I do think this device is going to appeal to a more tech literate crowd.

  • @xpertgamer9
    @xpertgamer9 Рік тому +7

    Thanks Taki for giving us a deep dive into the Ally in its current state.
    I did not expect the software side of the Ally to be so poorly optimized and buggy when its this close to launch day. It makes its Chinese competitors (GPD, Aokzoe, Ayaneo) look good in comparison, which is pretty embarrassing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the steam deck never had issues this egregious even during the early days at launch.
    I also really dislike the decision made to "simplify" TDP control, especially on a device with a small battery where conserving battery life is all the more important - what's wrong with the way all other devices openly display and let you adjust TDP? If you need more power to get more frames turn up the TDP value with the full knowledge that you are trading off battery life. Hiding this behind vague power settings really serves no purpose in my opinion.
    The things the Ally really gets right seems to be the ergonomics, display and sound - all of which appear to be excellent. But I'm not convinced that this is the go-to device. Competition from other 7840U handhelds is fierce - there's the Aokzoe A1 Pro that's also launching in June (at least its supposed to launch in June), and the GPD Win Max 2 (2023 ver) and Ayaneo 2S soon around August-ish. I'm personally thinking of getting the A1 Pro - bigger 8" screen (though the tradeoff is its less bright and 60hz only which is still fine for my use case), much bigger 65wh battery, minimal software bugs (I can't believe this is a plus for Aokzoe...), decent-ish ergonomics, and I use earphones or headphones for sound anyway.

    • @conner_productions
      @conner_productions Рік тому +3

      The Steam Deck was insanely buggy! The Ally has a huge boost in performance

    • @MaxDrougge
      @MaxDrougge Рік тому +1

      From what i hear and been reading is that the Steam deck had far more bugs in its early days than this.
      I was also considering one of the Chinese options. But then I came to my my senses that I really don't want a Chinese device. Partly because, it's Chinese, and partly because the hardware support and warranty will be terrible.

    • @mechanicalmonk2020
      @mechanicalmonk2020 Рік тому +1

      ​@@MaxDrougge as someone who was there in the early days, no it didn't. It had some QOL issues and some minor bugs. Certainly nothing as game breaking as "the controller config just didn't work lol"

    • @xpertgamer9
      @xpertgamer9 Рік тому +1

      @@mechanicalmonk2020 Yeah, one of my friends owned the steam deck during the early days too and I don't recall any game breaking complaints like buttons deciding not to work mid-game session. A lot of QOL and annoying bugs due to Steam OS being somewhat unrefined from what I understood, but the device and controller configs worked once in game.

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 Рік тому +1

      @@conner_productions and worse battery life due to bad software....

  • @gimmibox
    @gimmibox Рік тому +19

    Dude's dedication to getting devices alone makes this channel better than the majority of tech channels out there.

    • @Pridetoons
      @Pridetoons Рік тому

      It's not hard if you live in China like Taki does.

  • @CupOfNoodlesMusic
    @CupOfNoodlesMusic Рік тому +1

    I dont know how, but your dialogue for bug testing *FC1* "PG mode" was hilarious 😂 great video, really hope they fix up the device bugginess and add some advanced tuning options, cause I actually really dig the layout and and attention to detail on the button placement/style and grippy materials.

    • @CupOfNoodlesMusic
      @CupOfNoodlesMusic Рік тому

      Also, enjoy New Vegas! Great game, phenomenal mod community, too 👏

    • @kozakalex222222
      @kozakalex222222 Рік тому +1

      It's far cry actually, but you're not entirely wrong. Far cry 1 is basically the crysis game before crysis

    • @CupOfNoodlesMusic
      @CupOfNoodlesMusic Рік тому

      ​@Alexander Kozák lmao, you right 😅 early mornin to ya

  • @mrttype
    @mrttype Рік тому +1

    Awesome even handed review. Highlighting what works great whilst elaborating more on what doesn’t (in more detail than other channels do/won’t do) without being over-zealous. Enough to warn/inform without necessarily put off. Criticism 101.

  • @Sebbz
    @Sebbz Рік тому

    Incredibly in depth review and great showcase of the bugs. I will definitely wait for either a newer revision of the Ally or until all the bugs are ironed out

  • @byllz4125
    @byllz4125 Рік тому

    The drop it now fix it later technique. Love it.

  • @samhuang683
    @samhuang683 Рік тому +5

    1. Does whatever GPD does for their 7840u to get the boosted scores has any negatives for the user or device itself?
    Can 't see why other manufacturers would not do the same unless it has its own disadvantages.
    2. Does your Ally lost to a 6800u at any TDP range?

    • @ezg8448
      @ezg8448 Рік тому +2

      Drivers are still immature for RDNA3. The 7840U DOES lose to the 6800U on some benchmarks, but it will also be 50% faster on others.
      This is based on other people's benchmarks though.

    • @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr
      @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr Рік тому

      @@ezg8448 loses to which benchmarks?

    • @ezg8448
      @ezg8448 Рік тому

      @Augustine Kusi Duah - This very video and plus videos from the Phawx.

    • @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr
      @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr Рік тому

      @@ezg8448 meaning? I don’t get what you are trying to say

    • @ezg8448
      @ezg8448 Рік тому

      @Augustine Kusi Duah - You wanted benchmarks, they were always there. Go over the video again, plus the phawx's work validated it.

  • @shattia
    @shattia Рік тому

    great review! I didn't know this channel but I'm subscribed now!

  • @ScrapKing73
    @ScrapKing73 Рік тому +1

    I think you’re maybe the only reviewer who didn’t run Forza Horizon 5 on the Ally. :-)

  • @geegoo
    @geegoo Рік тому +1

    29:00 What's the game you're playing here? Nice review btw, I always appreciate the honesty of pointing out all the most glaring flaws and some more

  • @brandon..1
    @brandon..1 Рік тому

    it’s amazing especially for emulation, 15w 60fps on sonic unleashed, 60fps on god of war 3, 1080p on switch games and still getting decent battery, is nothing short of incredible

  • @Montisaquadeis
    @Montisaquadeis Рік тому +16

    As for the palms of your hands you MIGHT need to adjust your grip aka how you hold it. Try putting the meat of your palms on the top of the device and wrapping your fingers around it so that your fingers line up with the back button instead of putting the corner of the device int he meat of your palm.

    • @melxb
      @melxb Рік тому +2

      ​​​​​​​​​@watchmejumpstart he probably watched retro game corps's rog video who said the same thing when he started holding it with palms more on top of it he started to love the way it feels vs initially hating it when he held it more standard controller/steam deck style like taki with it jammed into his palms and hand fully wrapping around it, it's also why then the back button will not align/feel natural to press

    • @brandont7214
      @brandont7214 Рік тому +1

      ​@watchmejumpstart Why you so defensive? Dude was only trying to help Taki😂

  • @salitz91
    @salitz91 Рік тому

    Great video and review. I am totally satisfied with my Steam Deck but always good to see competition.
    Also, I love the highlights of Moonlighter in tbe video. I haven't played much since I first picked it up, but now I feel the urge to fire it back up and raid some dungeons to sell loot!

  • @tomoprime217
    @tomoprime217 Рік тому

    Great video as always just thumbs up

  • @Frizan
    @Frizan Рік тому +7

    Wonder if rog will support the software as actively as valve, the decks updates come pretty quick

    • @wrathtard1428
      @wrathtard1428 Рік тому +2

      In their q&a they said that they intend to support this thing wholeheartedly.

    • @bionic-beaver
      @bionic-beaver Рік тому

      ​@@wrathtard1428😂

    • @overoula
      @overoula Рік тому +1

      having other rog devices from them like motherboards/rog phones.. i say they will support it for 1 year ..... :P

    • @omanimitokanimi7976
      @omanimitokanimi7976 Рік тому

      Asus might have nice hardware, but you absolutely should not trust them to provide good software support with meaningful updates.

    • @psvitaoled197
      @psvitaoled197 Рік тому

      @@wrathtard1428 asus are known liars though lol

  • @K-Lowe
    @K-Lowe Рік тому

    "Its the ally's world and im just living in it" 😂

  • @Madblaster6
    @Madblaster6 Рік тому +1

    I've watched several reviews and the fact about 3 profile option is incorrect. There's a 4th where you can set your custom TDP.

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  Рік тому

      It has a 15W minimum. It's useless for solving the problem that I brought up.

    • @Madblaster6
      @Madblaster6 Рік тому +1

      @@TakiUdon that’s beside the point. It’s still misinformation

  • @noodlery7034
    @noodlery7034 3 дні тому

    that pg lock thing is hilarious

  • @Malikot911
    @Malikot911 Рік тому

    I agree about different colors. I wish it came in black!

  • @Likwidfox
    @Likwidfox Рік тому

    Looks like some good EDM'd texture, they can do crazy stuff.

  • @Moes_Prep_and_Tech
    @Moes_Prep_and_Tech Рік тому +1

    I'm in love with that Hard Drive Enclosure. Where can I buy one?

  • @judieunplugged
    @judieunplugged Рік тому

    for a handheld, im surprised at the lack of reviewers dealing with issues of portability and travel, like using it on a plane offline, rather than the same tech specs deep dives and ergonomics we all know about.

  • @peter_parkour
    @peter_parkour Рік тому +2

    I wish reviewers stop saying they expect this to be a $1000 product cause it might encourage Asus to inflate the price on the next iteration. 😅 They're not a small company from China that need to reach a profit margin and find it hard to breakeven cause the device don't really reach shelves in the US. They're "ASUS" that's a million dollar hardware company that already has the network to distribute their product it is not only expected for them to price these devices more competitively it's logical.

  • @AyoSoma
    @AyoSoma Рік тому

    thanks for reporting on those bugs, I tried bringing them up in the RogAlly subreddit but those guys just want to be told they made the perfect purchase on a perfect device

  • @Tigerhearty
    @Tigerhearty Рік тому

    Thanks for the honest review.

    • @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr
      @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr Рік тому

      This review wasn’t an honest review. He stated a lot of false things regarding the performance, screen and a lot more. Watch his video again and go and watch other videos to see how his review is wrong

  • @Andre-Mostert
    @Andre-Mostert Рік тому +1

    I want to get rid of my desktop pc that I use for playing Diablo and some Wow. Would love to see a video about using this machine plugged into a monitor and using it like a normal desktop. If this can run Diablo and WoW I am pretty much sold. I tried the steam deck and just did not get along with it. I love my switch and this one I hope I can use as a day to day remote desktop and also a gaming PC. Great video.

  • @ROT8TED
    @ROT8TED Рік тому

    I really hope that as a first ever handheld for me this won't disappoint...

  • @MarkTengPhoto
    @MarkTengPhoto Рік тому +1

    @taki udon The Ally charging dock (the one you have to buy) is actually combo USB hub and charger from what I've seen online. Obviously I don't have one yet since I am not as lucky as you haha, but it seems ASUS combined the dock functionality with a charger to make it more compact. However, I am personally just going to reuse my Steam Deck dock.

    • @Splackavellie85
      @Splackavellie85 Рік тому

      Do you have a third party dock? Because I saw in other reviews that it doesn’t fit in the Valve dock

    • @jekrone1
      @jekrone1 Рік тому

      Also the steam dock has less power then what ally needs

    • @MarkTengPhoto
      @MarkTengPhoto Рік тому

      @@Splackavellie85 Yes, although, I am not 100% sure it will fit either. I guess only way to know is to wait until the release date.

  • @Mikey6048
    @Mikey6048 Рік тому

    I'm excited for mine.

  • @iiishception
    @iiishception Рік тому +3

    When you talked about the glitches reminds me why I'm not sure on this device. I know you state it hasn't happened on other windows handheld but I still think windows holds this device back.

    • @ghostlegit
      @ghostlegit Рік тому +3

      Windows doesn't hold this device back. In fact if it wasn't windows I wouldn't even consider buying it.

    • @jollyrancherchick
      @jollyrancherchick Рік тому

      @@ghostlegit Statements like “windows hold this back” is how you tell actual pc gamers from steam fanboys. If you enjoy playing games, you’re gonna go with the device that allows you play the most games possible, no matter the store front.

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 Рік тому +2

      @@jollyrancherchick if you enjoy playing games you will get the most software based device that allows you to play said games.... the ALLY does not have the trackpads to play RTS games, have fun with that

    • @damianabregba7476
      @damianabregba7476 Рік тому +1

      If you care about smoothness of the experience then yes Windows hold it back.

    • @gamerito100
      @gamerito100 Рік тому

      ​​@@jollyrancherchick Windows holds back all the industry, tho, Windows shills are the reason why we can't have dev support for way superior OS, tho now mist of the games that you can't playon Linux are the ones who have malware like Denuvo

  • @michaellee316
    @michaellee316 Рік тому

    I actually like the way they manage TDP here

  • @KaladinStormBlessed190
    @KaladinStormBlessed190 Рік тому +1

    i really need that video of that external hard drive

  • @rednalewC
    @rednalewC Рік тому

    If you want that "advance user" setting. Since its windows you can go to registry and change things.
    Should work

  • @abdelhakloukkal3993
    @abdelhakloukkal3993 Рік тому +1

    Hey Taki, thank you for this awesome review! Just one question: at the end you said that the z1E should perform exactly the same as the 7840u when everything is levels, then you showed new figures with the 7840u "modded" that performs better ( similar to what the phawx showed on his video). Can you plese elaborate on what modding you did ? Gpu overclocking?

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  Рік тому +2

      I'll let the companies making these handhelds fight that battle, I don't really want to be involved at all. Job ends at just showing that this performs within the range of other 7840U devices.

    • @abdelhakloukkal3993
      @abdelhakloukkal3993 Рік тому

      @@TakiUdon No problem sir 🤗 will be tweaking the z1 when i receive the ally!

    • @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr
      @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr Рік тому

      @@TakiUdon that is a lie. Come on Taki, the 7840u perfoms better than the Z1 extreme. Come on bro, have you actuallys seen the benchmarks? You of all people, who has the other handhelds should never have said those things you said in this video.

    • @doublinx2
      @doublinx2 Рік тому

      ​@@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr the situation is a little more nuanced than that; as measured by the Phawx, the 7840 keeps within spitting distance of the z1e almost always, but often will turbo higher and drop lower more frequently over time. The z1e in comparison, hits a more stable and consistent performance level over time.
      In broad strokes it may be a wash, but devices with the z1e may benefit from smoother frametimes, which cannot be discounted.

    • @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr
      @AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr Рік тому

      @@doublinx2 7840u keeps within spitting distance? That was what the Phawx told you? Come on bro, you must have heard it wrong. Go and check the numbers and come back

  • @brandon_raby
    @brandon_raby Рік тому +1

    Great review of the Ally. Hopefully they can get the bugs worked out before launch.
    Hope you are planning on doing an emulation video as well. I'm very curious to see how this will handle ps3 emulation.
    I can't wait to try Gundam Extreme VS Full Boost on it!

  • @daruna3142
    @daruna3142 Рік тому +13

    the bugs would a total dealbreaker for me. I am probably (read: DEFINITELY) spoiled thanks to getting my Deck when all the kinks and extra features had been ironed out and added, so my experience the whole time has been basically flawless and I didn't have to deal with the nonsense that early adopters had to. But the idea of dropping 700 dollars (more where I live) on a device that will just straight up stop working as it sits in my hands is utterly unacceptable to me.

    • @AndRei-yc3ti
      @AndRei-yc3ti Рік тому +2

      Well it hasn't been officially released yet and will get updates soon, so we will see

    • @dipplodocus
      @dipplodocus Рік тому +6

      Asus customer service has been terrible last few years not sticking to there own warranty policy and doing everything in there power to blame you they use to be good but lately I wouldn't trust them with a badge pole been having alot of issues with there laptops lately if you don't know research it up as I say I had there products over the years but these last few years I feel like they've gone downhill and no where near as trust worthy as they use to be no customer service don't stick to there own warranty policy and lately I feel like there products have more issues than ever before almost as if there spending less in quality control but under the hood specs are good I so hope there customer service improves but I feel as if it's only gonna get worse I want a rog ally probably will pick one up just worry further down line they'll be problems and Asus won't be there for there customers

    • @donniedarko4497
      @donniedarko4497 Рік тому

      I had deck Q2 early on, and it was basically flawless then even

    • @JAnderson127
      @JAnderson127 Рік тому

      bugs can be handled easily with software updates

  • @zork219
    @zork219 Рік тому +3

    Double-edged sword of running Windows on a handheld. I hope MS will make handheld optimized version of Win 11. Asus also not the most reliable manufacturer when it comes to product support. On the other side I still running in to issues when I use Steam deck, starting menus are a mess, touchscreen is unreliable in them

  • @zedbuffer324
    @zedbuffer324 Рік тому

    Any chance your having trouble with steam & steam input running in the background? Great video and thank you for your efforts in making it.

  • @ronin_117
    @ronin_117 Рік тому +1

    I want that portable hard drive. I need it like asap

  • @samhuang683
    @samhuang683 Рік тому

    Will you be doing another video nearer or after launch?

  • @derekdrozdzak
    @derekdrozdzak Рік тому

    can you send a link to the dock/stand that you showed in your video with the rgbs on it? that looked like a nice simple and cheap solution to prop up the ally when playing with an external mouse/keyboard or controller. Great video, thanks

  • @SpinneretteAlex
    @SpinneretteAlex Рік тому +1

    is that "hdd" expensive? love the size.

  • @dicksonmatogo7967
    @dicksonmatogo7967 Рік тому +1

    Please can you do a side by side comparison between gpd win4 and asus rog ally.

  • @DylanTayag
    @DylanTayag Рік тому +4

    Never experienced these issues so far, but after the most recent armory crate updates, the quick menu has been very snappy and stable. Switching between desktop and controller has been seemless

    • @ZONAWOLF
      @ZONAWOLF Рік тому

      Have you tried the streaming from pc or gamepass cloud on the ally? How is it? I had the g cloud but it stuttered too much. Despite that, it was one of my fav handhelds,

  • @baccarah7010
    @baccarah7010 Рік тому +30

    The issues its having can (and hopefully will) be adressed with software either by asus themselves or the community.
    Remember, the steam deck had a bunch of software problems on launch and they have been mostly ironed out by now.

    • @TheSixthSLoT
      @TheSixthSLoT Рік тому +11

      Yeah, but Valve is reputable about updating their tech. Asus kinda isn't. If you look at their laptops over the last few years, Asus has been known the send firmware updates up to about a year before they just don't anymore. The best indicator of what someone will do in the future is to look at their past. Personally, I do not trust ASUS to update this device long term, especially if it isn't successful. Right now, you can still (STILL) preorder this device on Best Buy, and get it the day it comes out. No waiting list or anything. This doesn't seem like a hot seller the way the Steam Deck was, which tells me that ASUS won't be supporting this device long term.

    • @mattyin3229
      @mattyin3229 Рік тому +5

      Difference is….. Asus is a hardware first company and Valve is a software first company. Valve is incentivized to keep updating their handheld software in order to keep people on steam. While Asus would probably like to have software more fine tuned for their hardware, what incentive does Valve or Microsoft have to keep putting out updates at the pace Valve has been doing for the steam deck? I would love to be proven wrong, but Im not too confident asus will push for as many updates to the software as people probably want. It would probably be more likely that the ROG ally 2 will have more refined software.

    • @NTripleOne
      @NTripleOne Рік тому +3

      Armoury crate is ass and I have no faith in them making it less ass for the Ally

    • @hgh1727
      @hgh1727 Рік тому +1

      @@TheSixthSLoT That's my concern too, Asus don't have the best history of updating their software. Valve has a lot more support and commitment to the Steam Deck it seems. Although Asus does seem to push these devices pretty hard, but it even launches a pre order in my country in a week already, while their ROG phone usually only launches 3-6 months after global launch. I don't if they have too much stock or what.

    • @majikarus
      @majikarus Рік тому +1

      @@NTripleOne Seriously they pretty much abandon their $3000 laptops... it's pretty optimistic to think they'll care about upkeeping a $700 device a year from now. They'll just abandon it too and make a Ally 2 or something.

  • @Shiatama
    @Shiatama Рік тому +1

    Great video. very informative. how much free space does the ally have for games?

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  Рік тому +1

      A bit over 420GB.

    • @elasmojones
      @elasmojones Рік тому +1

      1.8tb after you buy a real ssd...

    • @Shiatama
      @Shiatama Рік тому

      @@TakiUdon ok thanks

  • @sollarezzz3714
    @sollarezzz3714 Рік тому

    My singular issue is with armory crate. Across 2 laptops I’ve only ever had issues, my one daily driver laptop runs crate and then tells me the software isn’t able to change my screen settings so I’m stuck on default missing any other features for the screen. (And trust that I’ve actually spent an unholy amount of time attempting to fix it with customer service) If I could have it as reliable as steam os, I might buy one. But that’s to be seen.

  • @gregoryvoutsas7903
    @gregoryvoutsas7903 Рік тому

    Will some of the things that may be problems possibly fixable with eventual software updates?

  • @vullord666
    @vullord666 Рік тому +2

    It sounds like Asus built a really great device held back by the software. I’m more interested in it than I am the steam deck because it runs windows by design which is ironically for the same reason I’m more wary with purchasing it. If I were to get the device it would replace my desktop PC at home with a dock and monitor, but for handheld gaming it needs more simplistic and intuitive software. Asus seems limited in what they can do with windows vs Valve building SteamOS on Linux. I really wish this device was designed to dual boot Xbox OS or some form of Windows heavily stripped down and focused on Gaming so it’d run a lot smoother on the backend, save more on power, and hardware developers like Asus had more control.

  • @Laius-ns5yu
    @Laius-ns5yu Рік тому

    Hi Taki. Are you planning on doing another video after the recent updates that fixes the bugs and greatly increase performance on all power settings? Would love to hear your thoughts!

  • @handheldempire4215
    @handheldempire4215 Рік тому +1

    How is the screen compared to something like the oled switch

  • @666closer666
    @666closer666 Рік тому

    Thx for review !
    At 26:38, what is the name of this game ?

  • @arcaderacer586
    @arcaderacer586 Рік тому +7

    The taki has stated this bad boy is the game changer. Cant wait to see how it sweeps the community by storm

  • @thefoxman88
    @thefoxman88 Рік тому

    What game was shown with that fps game with the pumpkin head dude? Love this review

  • @rushmore3927
    @rushmore3927 Рік тому +2

    Dang, for you to say it's buggy- it must be BUGGY, since usually your flexible on new devices. BTW, do you know if this device has hot swapping of micro sd cards full of game, like Steam OS? Probably not, since Windows does not play well with multiple cards with installed games.

  • @sheltorn
    @sheltorn Рік тому

    Could you do a comparison video Asus Rog Ally vs A1 Pro? And which you would recommend...

  • @Natsukashii_21
    @Natsukashii_21 Рік тому

    @Taki Udon would you recommend me waiting for the ROG Ally or go for the Steam Deck for emulations and some pc games

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  Рік тому +1

      I'll talk about this in my next video.

  • @PROF_LIGHT1995
    @PROF_LIGHT1995 Рік тому +1

    Lenovo Legion Handheld Specs Wishlist:
    7.5-inch bezel-less 1080p 120Hz OLED 500nits FreeSync Premium Laminated
    2x 1W RMS Speakers
    Ryzen 7840U APU with Liquid Metal
    32GB LPDDR5X 7500MHz RAM in Quad-channel
    512GB PCIe 4 M.2 2280 SSD
    50Whr Battery
    USB 4 Type C Port (40Gb/s)
    Oculink x16 Port (128Gb/s) for eGPU
    Hall-effect Analog Sticks + Triggers
    Haptics + High-polling rate Gyro

  • @takashy87
    @takashy87 Рік тому

    what's the brand/model of that RGB dock? XD
    having already a Steam deck I basically wonder how much of the stuff Deck owners have can be reused for the Ally, due to the higher power consumption. Like the official Deck dock should be able to hold it probably, but won't do the full power delivery just like most power banks / cables if people have gone for specific 45W ones rather than the 65(?) the Ally needs..

  • @flows30
    @flows30 Рік тому

    already preordered mine, the only downside for me about this handheld is the position of the charging port, i wish there's one at the bottom, it's kinda awkward having the cable dangling at the top when playing

  • @dgwdgw
    @dgwdgw Рік тому

    AOKZOE state that the A1 Pro uses Hall effect joysticks on its Indiegogo page. Here, you say that the Ally is using "the same part"-does that mean Asus also sprung for Hall effect sticks, AOKZOE's A1 Pro igg page is wrong/lying, or you misspoke?

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  Рік тому +1

      I mean the underlying mechanical structure. This one doesn't use a hall sensor.

  • @ninjason57
    @ninjason57 Рік тому +7

    I think this’ll be the opening act to other handhelds of similar power but with better ergonomics and batter life. I already have a steam deck and I don’t believe this handheld is enough of an improvement to make the purchase. But I’ll definitely keep my eye out next year for what’ll come out.

    • @Whatsup_Abroad
      @Whatsup_Abroad Рік тому +1

      The Chinese companies making most windows handhelds release new models constantly. It's been that way for a long time. If you try to keep up you will end up buying a new one every 6 months.

  • @ricardovoegeli5359
    @ricardovoegeli5359 Рік тому

    Excellent video, can you give me your opinion or add it in next video, how you see this as my personal computer, to use it every day docked and also for games of course. Because at the moment I don't have a pc and if this work for both purpose? Thanks!

  • @cloudcultdev
    @cloudcultdev Рік тому

    Taki, what’s the last game you were playing in the video?

  • @qualitytouch
    @qualitytouch Рік тому +1

    Do yall realize this is a pre-production??? The device comes out in several weeks, so basically it will be a lot better then all these videos that are nit picking the hell out of it. Nothing is perfect, just enjoy the ride thats call ROG ALLY

  • @اریارشیدیان
    @اریارشیدیان Рік тому

    Can you play while charging with this console? It does not harm the battery

  • @zomg346
    @zomg346 Рік тому

    They already updated armoury crate and it’s a lot better so even before launch they keep updating

  • @24yrukdesigner
    @24yrukdesigner Рік тому

    Must have been drivers, because I've been playing the same games I play on a £4000 Gaming laptop, on my Ally Rog and can't tell the difference other than small details and sharper shadows. The Ally Rog is literally the greatest handheld ever made.