2016 Holden SS-V Redline manual - REVIEW - extra pedal = extra smiles
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2016
- Few people buy Aussie V8 sedans these days. And fewer still buy them with a clutch pedal. But no matter...lots of people in this world are misguided. If you like your cars big, brutal and hairy-of-chest then grab one of these before there ain't no more. Step up and spec the manual and your inner hunter/gatherer will love you for it - forever.
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I have 3 kids and needed a 4door with some handling and great performance so I bought the Chevy SS (Aussie's SSV) with the 6 speed manual. I love the car. It is a rare car here in the US, but man is it a fun car. SO happy with it. Big car, dad's car, with lots of grip, braking and speed. Mine is a 2015 and plan on keeping it forever. RIP Commodore, you will be missed.
Yeah ! mike hsv clubsport lsa has that , and the 83000 aud i in Australia
redline manual 40000usd / 52000 aud . Big difference
paid 55k for my redline ,2016 with 2500ks on it ,you get 40 kws more plus magnetic ride for the r8 new for 30 grand more or so. would love it but redline is so good ,and apart from the suspension(which feels bloody good anyway)you can upgrade through after market for way less for bigger results
yeah I think they get the r8 in a vf2 shell,am jealous of you though , may upgrade power down the road but seriously , the handling is exceptional ,cant imagine what the magnetic ride feels like
How is the SS going still?
Had Redline over a year and kids like the huge amount of room in the back, and didn't like 2 door Mustang. The car overtakes big trucks on steep hills fast and no body roll like the Prado that made everyone car sick. I find it sports car enough for me, plus it is a good family car too. The old pushrod unstressed engine is going to outlast any high stress turbo small displacement engine any day.
Nice work shamus the Mustangs a pile of shit with a pissweak 2 star safety rating.
You’d have to be a complete dickhead if you have kids and you buy a 2 door mustang and make kids sit in the back because you think a 2 door car is cooler. My kids love the comfort of the Commodore and sunroof helps with car sickness. I owned a R51 Pathfinder and it made one of my children badly car sick too.
I have the manual 2016 April built love driving it here in Melbourne soo much fun
Every day in peak traffic its great to shift down the gears and get the crackle and pop, sounds awesome
7:37 "when the clutch drops the bullshit stops..." - love it!!!
Beautiful to see a review mate!
YESS! Finally another VF2 video, and by the Car Nut himself!
+CarNut .kiwi Ahh! Autocorrect mate! *CarNut
Another nice vid. I'm absolutely in love with this car. When I turn it on it feels like Christmas every time. Having a 4 door muscle car like this with manual transmission almost feels criminal.
+CarNut .kiwi so you couldn't get one of these for yourself? Just got through the first break-in. Falling in love more each day. I especially like surprising people you assume it's a slow moving PoS.
IKR? Sadly I only had one (rented) for the week, but I couldn't not smile each time I hit the start button. I'm convinced a team of Holden engineers must have spent weeks tweaking the ECU just to give that beautiful roar and burble every time you start the car. I'd love to own one myself someday!
I know they’re out of production, but for potential used buyers: just go get one! 😁 I have had the US variant (an SS-V Redline plus adjustable mag-ride shocks) for nearing 3 years now. Mine also has the Tremec mix-your-own ‘box in the middle. 👌 Every shift is practice, every drive and situation is different and engaging.
Practicality? Yes. Wife plus special needs kiddo (“special needs” = plenty of medical equipment). She loves the space, kiddo is comfortable, and the boot swallows all of our normal family stuff + the extra medical gear. I use it for commuting down 30 miles of mountain road, so it’s a blast every day set to “sport” or “performance” mode. Yet it’s equally at home on weekends in “Tour” mode with the family all loaded up, racking up miles on a road trip. Have had three adults with their luggage plus kiddo and all his gear, and we all had a comfortable 2-hour drive to our destination after I picked everyone up from the airport.
This is as close to a do-it-all car for the twisting road enthusiast as you’re going to get. Half the price of an M5 (plus more reliable), handles better than a Charger (~400 lbs lighter, stiffer chassis, better suspension), more practical than a Mustang, with the sporting capabilities of the Camaro built in underneath. If you wanna go wheeling, get a wheeler. If you want a sports car that also does family duty without breaking a sweat, so find a lightly used and well cared for VF2 SS-V Redline (or if you’re in the States, a Chevy SS sedan)
beautiful camera shots, hopefully buying one soon
I was very undecided about this car, Though after watching this I'm sold and will be getting my order in before it's too late. Subbed.
Never had a V8 before so I decided to go all out and get one before they run out. Well I ordered 2, one for the wife and one for myself. After driving all weekend with the wife doing time trials up to Mt. Tasie (Vic) I went to the dealer and said you better get me 2 of these or I will never get to drive it. The wife has taken delivery of hers and I was right, I never get to drive it. Take delivery of mine July 17 and can't wait. Loved the manual to drive, but ordered the auto. Wanted remote start. Nice review.
Have you got it yet?
Went for the white with the black roof option on both. Can't wait to get mine and give the wife a race.
Love NZ. went there in 2010 for 28 days, Beautiful place.
I would have to go with a Auto, because living in Dallas with the amount of traffic would be death with a manual. Either way is sweet. Those seats look better than the ones over here in the U.S. nice review sir.
I own an AMG GLE Coupe that can do 0-100km/h in 3.1 sec (with work done to the engine obviously) but I would take my redline over the MG any day of the week... Now thats saying something!
thanks for the comment on my RR video brother
That extra pedal makes all the difference
nice sounding ride :)
Finally the manual! Cheers for the video mate. I still wouldn't know what to do in choosing between manual and auto living in Auckland though lol
+CarNut .kiwi could be a dangerous and costly plan haha. Where do I sign up to do that?
+CarNut .kiwi haha had a feeling something wasn't working for me, no green buttons show up for me. Thanks for the link mate 👍🏻
You'll get used to the manual in traffic. It will definitely improve your skills and keep you more focused on the road.
Nice video and please make some videos for the HSV GTS, thanks. :)
I have the Ute version of the Redline and love it. I chose auto because it's got the shifter paddles on the steering wheel which I find more practical for every day driving. 12 liters per 100 km isn't bad either.
getting 13 litres per 100km with a manual sedan. seems better than my previous AFM auto series 1 6.0 L77 which was 13.8l/100
Ahhhh a review and you're not afraid to put your foot down, I like it! Alright carnut, if you had 45k to spend, what would you choose out of 1) 2013 vf maloo r8, or 2) 2013 vf ssv redline ute, or 3) a new Vf 2 ss ute. Cheers!
Would Love a Kiwi Shirt! I just subscribed ; )
Great review. I purchased my Redline for the exact reasons you specified - an enthusiast who wants to feel connected with the engine but still has a family to tote around. I live in Sydney (another Kiwi in Sydney..) and it's not even that much of a nuisance driving a manual in traffic, as the reason you buy one of these in manual is the enjoyment of going through the gear changes! I originally wanted to put the Walkinshaw kit on it (W375), but it really doesn't need it. How much power do you need..
I got the auto, redline vf2 in Jan, and already have but 45000km in it. I knew I was going to 'live' in the thing, and have done similiar km's in other manuals in the past. I'm not sorry, this is the best car I have ever had, I got out of an M5 for this and I have not a single regret. Service costs are less are about 250 every 150,000 whereas the M5 was horrendeous and it needed new turbos after 150000km. Fuel use? originally it was around 16L/100km but it (or maybe me) has settled down to a respectable 13L/100km . I don't feel like I have 'less control' or connection using the torque converters flappy paddles, and love the luxury of not having to change gears when i'm in city traffic. I took it to a track day, and can imagine that's where having the manual begins to make a bit more sense - but I'm not sorry, and cannot imagine anyone who gets either version will be sorry they did so. As for the W375 pack - I drove one and it kind of makes the gear box completely redundant. you can overtake anything in 6th gear with that thing.
w375 kit is very expensive - you pay a lot for the branding i think. also the exhaust they use hangs lower than many others and reduces ground clearance quite a bit.
an intake, tune and exhaust like the w375 package certainly improves the engine response to the right pedal - can also clean up tyour fuel economy significantly - after i did mine, fuel use came down a lot - to the point where i was mid- 10's if driving smoothly on the open road.
adding a more aggressive cam shaft is what makes these engines really come alive - giving well over 300kw at the wheels and extending the power band north of 6000rpm
Cool videos man thanks for checking out my channel I will have some new car show videos up in the next couple weeks I'm going to one of the biggest car shows on the west coast of the United States and will be driving our 1926 model T
How did you find the clutch in the redline? I took a manual for a drive and found the clutch engages very quickly from the floor and the clutch to be very springy and push up your leg. It took me ages to get the hang of it and actually be smooth rather than causing whiplash to my passengers (I'm used to a 5.7L Man in the VZ) but it in the end I ticked the manual box on my order, so now have a manual SSV Redline on its way. I hope I went the right way by picking the manual over the auto.
i didnt like the clutch on the test drive either - too much 'springy-ness' - with almost like a hump in the middle. after a few weeks of ownership ive gotten used to it and dont even notice anymore.
got myself a redline ,best car ive ever owned.manual ,the pedals are great for heel and toe ,especially when brakes under load . is there anything you can buy for anywhere near the money as good as this.
Enjoyed the vid Kiwinut
It's still new to me , but i find even running the gear changes at 3000rpm is bloody enjoyable ,thats crazy good ,and even worries the passengers which i find totally amusing,lol . If only they knew!!!
Yeah mate i have, bloody funny ,i really like the guy reading ,he couldnt help himself ,he had to have a peak,he was so trying to be cool , Oh Behave!!
wrx sti or focus rs
Please come on General Motors USA, start building these Redline beautiful VF style V8 SS Commodores again to import into Australia for the Aussie V8 Holden fans, now you have closed down Holden forever in Australia. Even if you call them Chevrolet SS Novas or whatever. We Aussie miss the V8 Holden SS Commodores, to buy new from the showroom in Australia, now we've lost General Motors Holden. We have the V8 Ford Mustang to buy, so why not make again the Redline V8 SS Commodore, I'm sure they would still sell out, like they all used to back in 2017, when the last Commodores were built like the Redline SS, just before Holden Left Australia.
oh look its my car!
Congrats Nightmarelord. You've got yourself an excellent vehicle with the Redline SS-V manual. I should know, as I went and bought one after driving yours! Cheers for watching. Blu
Which my dad would get one ay
The A piller is a sore point, got me the last of the SV6, wanted the V8, but would have lost my License by now, just can't appreciate it
Any difference between the VF1 and VF2?
Hi Philip. I think the main think you’d need to be mindful of when looking at V8 Commodores is the move to the LS3 6.2-litre engine in the VF2 after the 6.0-litre L76//L98/L77 used in the VE model cars. The LS3 of the VF2 is much livelier than the 6-litre and gives the SS-V a more visceral performance. Naturally, the VF and VF2 enjoy some trim, equipment and chassis upgrades over the earlier cars but the VE was already a really well-sorted platform. I had an SV6 Sportwagon VE before my VF2 Redline and that wagon was a great car in its own right. Cheers for watching Philip.
any idea when these are going out of production?
20th oct 2017. Most sold. Limited colours and numbers left. Are now selling for 6K more than at the start of 2017.
Paid 60K here in Vic Australia but current prices are around 66K
holden closed down last Tuesday
6 cylinder or nah
Nice to see another review mate. FYI a write up on me and my car as promised. Mine turned up and I made a few mods. Absolutely love my manual Redline. forzamotorsport.net/en-us/news/hma_6_30_16
I love this car....it's amazing! Especially in manual. I heard rumors Holden may release an LSA version next year for a last hurrah. Bit annoying but as you know it's plenty fast already.
Yep I'm not convinced other than purely collectability that you wouldn't grab the VF2 Redline. There's plenty of power to be unleashed with a few mods (air intake, headers, ECU tune) to the tune of nearly 100kw. I'd argue you're getting near the limits of what you can use in RWD in most scenarios.
Ha! Who am I kidding...everyone wants MORE POWER!
Oh sweet
+CarNut .kiwi did you buy it or who lent you the car?
Whats silly about holden is the claim that it produces 304kw. I bought a 2014 ssv with the older L77 engine, they claimed it has 270kw. Stick it on a dyno and it produces 220kw. The newer LS3 engine on a dyno produces 225kw. Hardly 304kw and only 5kw more than the older 6litre engine. Awesome cars but why the bullshit with the numbers?
It's pretty much a ve clubsport r8 from 2006
You can buy a clubby r8 for under $20000 now in Australia
304KW @ flywheel. Your dyno is @ wheels. Most VF2 SSV redlines (LS3) get 242KW @ wheels.
What do they cost on road in australia
$48000 in USA
+ghs77 How did you manage that?
Ben Chesterman the question clearly did say Australian fuck knuckle
$52000 aud
Tried many places to get the MY17 for list. Because of limited numbers they sold much higher.
What do you prefer? Manual redline or GT mustang?
+CarNut .kiwi thanks for the reply, I actually already made my decision but just was curious as I already bought a 16 SSV redline in manual. Just had me wondering as they both got very good reviews. If the mustang didn't have a 18 month wait I think the decision could have been different. Anyways keep up the reviews, loving watching them!
Q. What do YOU prefer?
manual is 3k cheaper in Australia than auto
Just the thing to go pick up your fush n chups in...
This car would be better with a CVT
lol the cvt must be the worst transmission ever devised......pull the other one,it plays jingle bells
Cvt is shit
What a crap review. Engine, clutch, gearbox tires. Nothing about the quality of the paint, leather, carpet, boot electronics...............
I own a Red 2016 Redline manual. The paint is excellent (I’ve worked in the paint shop first hand at Holden’s as a electrician around 2000 when they done a upgrade over Christmas one year adding spray robots and remember how the place was fully pressurised and you had to wear lint free overalls and no silicone was allowed near the place. The Holden paint shop was a world class facility.)
Leather on the seats is good too. The boot is activated either with a button above drivers side speaker or with button on key fob and has gas struts and mechanical hinges that don’t impede on luggage space like previous generation Commodores that used gooseneck hinges. Tyres are soft Bridgestone Potenzers which are costly to replace.
I’ve watched this review a number of times, it is a really good tribute to the car and highlights the virtues of the manual over the auto version (which I’ve also owned in series 1 6.0 litre guise).
The car is basic - 6.2L LS3 304kw up front, Tremec TR- 6060 in the middle, LSD at the back. 5 comfortable seats with a transmission tunnel running through the middle of the car. Brembo brakes each corner, a ageing infotainment system , sensors used for blind spot monitoring and cross traffic also help automatically reverse parallel and reverse perpendicular park the car.
Car drinks 95 octane at a rate of 15L/100 in built up areas, can get 11L/100 in country driving. My average is 13.8L/100km.
CarNut .kiwi I love the review!!
I’ve even said “when the clutch drops, the bullshit stops” in my best kiwi accent in my own Redline!!