Onyx Boox Note Air3 C e-Ink tablet (review)
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- WHERE TO BUY
shop.boox.com/products/noteair3
TIME STAMPS
00:00 - Intro
00:40 - Bottom line
04:10 - Things included
04:24 - Pen
06:26 - Flip case
09:00 - Design
13:52 - Display quality
16:14 - E Ink controls
18:12 - Refresh modes
23:27 - Web browsing
25:03 - OS, UI
26:36 - Note taking
31:27 - Drawing
31:55 - Battery life
33:00 - Conclusion - Розваги
Great review! Thanks for an in depth review with very much information into great detail, ordered mine after this review.
Tell us about your experience please. I'm thinking to order mine, I hesitate between this and the mini tab c.
@ im very pleased with the product. Battery time is great atleast in my use. I get minimum 2 weeks of use easy i use it for work and school as a note taking device primarily. Best purchase i made! Keeps my work and school days clean and tidy and alot less papers all over the place!
@@safargris815 thank you for sharing your experience.
Yay!! Thank you for the great & comprehensive review! I read a lot of manga, manhwa, manhua, books, pdf & novels so the display portion review was absolutely helpful as my eyes get strained a lot easier now.
Thank you again ❤
Thank you for your honest feedback on the downsides of the tablet. These are very real and practical concerns for daily users. I usually switched off the auto rotation on my TUC.
Thanks for the review and talking about the battery life. Its the only thing holding me back but youve given me faith!
Fantastic review.. everything I needed to know. Thanks for taking the time
You are the best Teoh! You are an amazing reviewer.
Thank you for this! I just bought a Tab Mini C but might purchase one of these early next year. I hope it is sturdy and doesn't break easily
Thank you so much for such a great review!
Many thanks, as a total neophyte, this has been the best review out of the 5 or 6 I watched.
Wow, thanks!
@@teohontech7141 Could you please showcase (with a picture or something) how the tablet performs with LOTS of external light (like direct sunlight or a lamp)? I am used to using kindle with no frontlight and as seen in your video maybe the contrast would be a bit low. Do you think that only with dark enhancement the problem would be solved?
Many thanks!
@@Basilisks666 The e-ink canvas has 5/5 stars contrast under direct sunlight. It's no different from reading newspaper under direct sunlight.
For indoor use, you may have to use the front light depending on how bright the room is. I usually set the front light at 50-70% as I find the e-ink canvas grey quite dark. Battery life with that is 8-10hrs or more.
Nice review. I just got the NA3C and love it so far. My takes:
1. The fast auto rotate is subjective, for me i am blessed because few weeks back i bought and returned a similar product with 3 to 4 second response time prior rotate lol
2. The pen slip inside when picking up again subjective, i didnt have such issue
3. USB c position, indeed a huge design mistake, and wonder whats the logic not following the best practice
4. The AI recocognision when erasing and highlighting notes in neoreader is amazing, shud demo that
5. The portrait cover folding method is wrong, from the top it should looks like '_/\_'
6. The note series had came a long way, hence the product position, hardware+ software integration is pretty mature (including the form factor)
7. The default note taking app have layering feature, may be important add on for drawing works?
8. The pen latency on the default apps, tested by another UA-camr, seems to be a new king for now, surpassing Kindle Scribe
I once torned between TUCPro vs NA3C and finally gotten this, make me realised my usage actually dont need the snapdragon 855 and i am absolutely happy with this!🎉
Very good review!
Yay! First comment here! This is a really awesome device. Definitely a good option for those who are new to eink devices.
Very informative review thank you.
Great review! Thank You :)
PLEASE make a short or something using good notes with this tablet
How do you deal with document/notes sorting in such a device? How easy is it to use with reference tools for studying, and versus an eventual Windows computer? How do the units relate?
Do you have any older Boox devices? Curious to see how the updates work. I had an old Boox Note plus tablet. The first year I had it, it was amazing! I was also impressed with the constant feature updates. After two years though, Onyx was still pushing feature updates and it kept ruining my device. Every update I hoped they fixed the issues, but it just made things worse, to the point it’s now fully bricked.
I mostly just wanted basic sketching and note taking functionality. Doesn’t need much new things. I’m worried seeing that they have so many devices released so often, maybe this is the plan?
I’m now using a Fujitsu Quadreno. Has less functions, but for sketching and brainstorming it’s more than good enough. Would have gotten a remarkable, but no shops I know of sell them, and the Fujitsu one you could buy in shops in Japan (same with Onyx when I lived in HK).
Anyway curious what’s onyx long term track record.
I don't have other Boox devices as I don't keep review units that long. For updates, you may want to wait a while and check out Reddit forums to see if there are any issues before installing them.
Great review! Thanks for sharing all these details. I see you got GoodNotes installed-did you get it running? I had to sideload to get it on my Nova3, but can't seem to get it to load or connect since the beta ended. It was pretty rough anyway, but always interested to see how cross-platform (iOS/Android) note apps potentially work. I'd assume it probably does as well as Concepts appeared in your example.
I could not get GoodNotes to open even though it was installed
@@teohontech7141 Ah, they must be blocking it still for specific Samsung tablets. I’ll avoid spending so much time trying hopelessly to make it work for now. :) Thanks for the reply!
Hi Teoh, few questions:- 🥰
1. I was intrigued by how this device draws like actual pencil on paper. Is this true? (I wish it is true🤣)
2. Is this default drawing/note app can export/transfer by Usb C to windows app like Photoshop/Clip studio? Does it export as raster or vector format?
Thank you for the review, I wondered if the device support ceramic tips?
Not sure. But if the tip can fit the pen, it should work
Thank you for the review. Looking at your review for the Bigme 6 plus, the colours appear brighter. Perhaps it’s just the different video as they both have kaleido 3 screens. Do you feel there is a noticeable difference between the colour rendition of these two colour ereaders?
They look kinda similar. Visual differences are not significant if any
On point information ...☝✍️
Thank you for the informative review. A little bit of suggestion, I think it's better to include review for academic pdf reading. Because that is one of the consideration for choosing 10 inch e-reader.
For academic PDF, got with 11 inch or larger. I probably recommend minimal 12 inches because you cannot adjust text size of PDFs
Great review; thank you. Can you tell me if there is lag using the pen to annotate and write on PDF document directly?
If you use the default NeoReader app for that, no lag. But other PDF readers will write with lag.
Thank you
Thank you for the review! I just received my Note 3C, and there is s gray bar on the left side of the screen. By any chance, are you seeing this also on yours? Thank you.
I don’t see any gray bar. Is it some UI? If you rotate the tablet does the gray bar stay in position? Best to ask the company support
I'd love to see if notion mobile app to write sheet music works with this pen for not input recognition.
I'm quite curious whether It's possible to change the default applications on the left side. For example whether It's possible to put kindle app for easy access. Anyone?
Thank you! This review was useful. Do you think this is too big and heavy to read books while holding it with one hand for a long period of time? Cheers.
It’s not that heavy alone. With the case it’s heavier but you can remove the case easily and quick
@@teohontech7141 Thanks. I appreciate the additional feedback. Cheers.
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I want to order one of these, but honestly, the white flash between pages (at the beginning of the video) seem pretty drastic. I want something that's easier on my eyes than a regular tablet and those flashes defeat the purpose.
Thanks for great review! At the moment i have Pocketbook inkpad 3pro. Want to try the best reader in 10inch size for reading not just books, but also magazines and newspapers. Also has to be on android so i can download newspapers applications. Is it this model Boox note air 3 C is today the best model on the market?What is better for my purposes (reading only) color or BW, Boox note air 3C or Boox note air 3? Thanks in advance
If the magazines or newspapers have fixed size pages, e.g. PDF, you'll probably still have to zoom in to get the text since text size is not adjustable. If you're using magazine or newspaper apps, then it shouldn't be a problem if there is text size adjustment.
Not sure whether this is the best model since I don't review that many e-readers, but this one is pretty good. More specifically, it doesn't feel laggy when flipping the pages which is most important to me.
As for colours or BW, it's really personal preference. If price difference isn't that big, having colours is nice.
Thanks for the great review. I have a question: Are there possible apps for drawing and writing on PDF files without much lag on this tablet?
You cam draw on PDF with their default PDF reader and there is no lag
6h Display on. Battery life is good? Are you paid by boox?
The placing USB-C port seems to be a big design mistake: u cannot load the tablet while cover is closed, or? What if u rotate the tablet with the USB-C port to the outer side? Would that work?
The magnets on the cover and the tablet are only matched in a certain way and won't work with other placement.
A firmware update is need in Boox note taking app :
1. The ability to create table of contents like in superonte a5x and a6x
2. link star should be like supernote do you could know it is registered.
Does the screen remain clear in daylight with the front light off? Some users are complaining that kaleido screen is dark.
The e-ink canvas is dark. It is bright enough if you have sunlight streaming into your room. Otherwise, using front light is recommended.
Hi, thanks for the review.
Can you say, is it possible to use it as a 2nd PC monitor?
And use it to write text/code?
Thanks
Wireless display, yes. But lag and visual quality will not be good. Also resolution is lacking so it may not be able to display everything.
For coding, no
@@teohontech7141Thanks!
Hi , very good review. I actually have a Bigme color unit from one year ago. I can use sketchbook for drawing and flipaclip for animation with global handwriting . How good can be this boox at these apps . It could be very interesting and original to test these apps for your next review . I use Bigme like a tablet but it is also lack on resolution and strange washed and blur colours watching video. Is it a big step product ? Waiting your great review and congratulations from Spain .
For better drawing experience, you have to use the default note taking app which has limited functionality. Other apps will have very noticeable lag while drawing.
This tablet is not ideal for watching videos
Nice review. On average, how often do you have to charge it? Every 2 days, 4 days…?
Maybe every 4 days or more. Really depends on how you use the tablet, e.g. with wifi, with web browsing, with lights, and how long each day.
Battery life isn't something I worry about with this tablet.
@@teohontech7141 4 days is pretty good. Thanks for the feedback!
Does it have speakers for sound?
Ok, sorry if this have been asked before, but couldnt browse all comments, nor locate, etc...But I must really know, so with your pardon, my questions, which I hope you guys can answer.... Is the BOOX better for outdoor reading- BUT MOST importantly better for vision/eye health, than a tablet? Im really interested in a device to read & take notes on books, manuals, etc which can be easy to read even outdoors, but which doesnt mess with my eyes (brightness high, blue light etc etc). Not really interested on playing games watching videos and the like, but reading, study, re-checks, taking notes.. Thanks in advance.
Yes eink is much better than tablet or any led/lcd/amoled display as the light doesnt get to ur eyes and dont give any blue light
Is side loading of books comics and pdfs possible with a usb c flash drive. Is the filing system same as a samsung phone or tab ? I have a samsung S8 ultra tablet. I use a 1 tb micro sd card in that tablet with 300 gb of books and comics stored on it and use read era pro app to read them . Is it possible to insert that loaded l card straight away in this boox tablet and read the comics in a similar manner theough read era app? Is the filing and folder system same as that in a samsung galaxy tablet / phone ? Thanks in advance !
Android file system is the same. You can use microSD card as you normally would
How is the zoom in notes working? Is there infinite scrolling like there is for remarkable?
There's no infinite canvas as pages are separate. You can zoom in real close but there is a limit.
@@teohontech7141 thank you. Looks like they haven’t improved on the book ultra c (2x canvas max) unfortunately… I really enjoy that feature in the remarkable but I miss the color in the remarkable ahah can’t win (yet) :)
4:33 wacom emr, is the same as Samsung? On every Samsung device usable?
Yes, Samsung is using Wacom EMR. This tablet also uses Wacom EMR. All tablets and pens that use Wacom EMR are interchangeable.
Hello. Thanks for the review. Can whatsapp and telegram be installed?
i think i will wait to see if super note a5x 2
you are the best on internet youtube and in the world generally . if you do not make a review we do not buy products. you are thew only who is showing to us how it is actually to write on these devices with video from very small distance If it is easy to review tab ultra c pro please. both devices how do they perform with evernote and onenote ? is there any lagging ?i am asking because i plan to buy one of these devices to use with evernote or onenote and not with the native note taking app.with onenote when you tap the screen the line changes and becomes thicker .how this is happening ?can you deactivate this ?i mean if you accidentally press the screen lines are changing? i cannot understand why this is happening however it is annoying to write something and suddenly is changing. You probably just saved me from 700 euros mistake . thanks in advance
I don't have EverNote.
I tested GoodNotes and Inkredible, and there's very noticeable latency. I believe most note taking apps will have visible latency unless there is special integration, e.g. with Microsoft OneNote. You will have to ask the company which other note taking app they support with low latency.
@@teohontech7141 thank you very much. I decided not to buy after your video. You tap the screen and lines change. This is a deal-breaker for me because I consider it very annoying to write for a lot of hours in this way. I saw more than 15 videos for boox devices on other channels however I had to see your video to understand how it is working. I bought based on your videos tab s8 ultra huawei MateBook E and fold 4. Continue your detailed presentation of products you are the best. I do not know what exactly the other channels are doing however on every tablet we have to see the videos from your channel in order to understand how they work.
The line is thin and black at first to lower the latency in third party apps. Then it changes to the thickness and style you have chosen in the pen and color settings.
@@Alexchii this is happening only in third party apps? It is very annoying if you plan to use for a lot o notes and hours. You write and suddenly everything changes and words are moving all the time. If it is not happening with the native app it is OK however all my notes are in evernote and onenote and I cannot transfer all my notes in the native notes app of boox. Boox in the presentation of the product says it is optimized for evernote and onenote and this is very misleading . Does not say that these apps are lagging and only the native app is working properly. When a device is optimized for an app you except it to work better than other tablets on the market not worse.
Is there a way to switch to B&W only to keep it locked at 300PPI?
I no longer have this tablet so I can't test that.
I have one due, this device is certificated by Google Play Protect?
Yes
All I want is a Tab X in color! 13.3 is the perfect size!
For indoor use yes, but that is not good for outdoor use, i prefer 7.8 or 10.3 for reading on the bus or metro
@@Dr.Akakia Fair enough. I find anything smaller than 10.3 to be worthless for my eyes as I can't read pdf files.
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What is the point to have a reader to care about your eyes, if you have to use the frontlight ?
I think you missed the point. Even if you read physical books at nighttime, you still need to turn the lights on. That's front lights. It's different from the direct backlit lights from LED scresns which directly hit your eyes.
I hope one day we’ll get an e-ink tablet with a processor that matches M1 while retaining stylus support and CSP, that’ll be an instant buy for me as I think it’ll be the ultimate comic drawing machine. Thank you for the review!
The display technology, not the processor, is what makes things laggy. We would need a drawing program specifically for eink tablets, then we would get the sort of performance that you see in the note taking app.
@@kiddo4674exactly. I wish the e-ink company would invest more in refresh rates over color. Color is nice, but the refresh rate would really help make that google play store thing seem like a more viable option.
I assume that you like buy all of these tablets out of your own money, so do you just sell them after or do you just like keep hundreds of tablets?
Edit I just realized you said it was a reviewed unit. But still you must have a lot of tablets
Some are borrowed. Some are sponsored such as this one that I get to keep. Some are bought. I will usually sell the tablets away whenever possible and just keep my iPad Pro and Samsung tablet. It’s not possible for one person to use so many tablets. 😂
most of these apps are not made for eink screens thats why they dont work well. boox supported only evernote and onenote but even those are not fun to use and i rather use the built in notes
does goodnote work on this tablet
He has the app but he doesn’t show it😢
what is the other tablet model?
Huawei MatePad Pro 10.8
Does the device support the Arabic language ?
Looking at the poor color reproduction performance, wouldn't this be better device with a B&W only screen ? If it allows it to be cheaper, and with more contrast.
No. The color reproduction is great, especially if you are reading technical documents with colored graphs/tables. There is no downside to it as the BW performance is the same.
There are plenty of non color E Ink readers if you want to save money. I want color.
You could buy a Boox Tab Ultra or a Tab X. Both are only black and white.
Or a note air 3 (it's black and white only)
wow It's very affordable cheaper tablet 😮
I noticed some dishonesty from Boox with this devis. When they send a sample to someone to review, the device is equiped with 2.8 GHz CPU, but the actual device on any online shop is a 2.4GHz CPU which is way slower. Sa from a company who wants to grow....
So the battery-life is like 6 hours? That's not really much.
Yesterday I used it for two hours and it dropped 13%. And it’s with 70% front light
you could just get an iPad and add a paper texture screen protector with polarization.
Sure u may simulate the paper like feel, and and a fast and vibrant screen, able to launch complex 3D games on it. But the whole thing why we wanted an eink is due to eye relief. You need to try it and you'll understand
@@edyloi a polarized paper texture screen protector will do the job.
I don't like the logo orange on top and bottom. Very distraction
color looks meh. but i still want it lol
very expensive device US$499.99 ... but is a good start in the area of technology ... I want to buy in the future with 150 euro a a device with such features .. why this price ? my purchasing power and my priorities don't let me to make this step!
I think that the seller should earn on the number of products sold and not on the price...
It isn't expensive. You clearly don't understand the cost of E Ink technology (and the demand isn't as high as LCD). You can't expect this to be cheap like an LCD screen so either stop being poor or just shut up.
the audio is really bad, it's hard to follow
Perfectly fine for me - just a bit of echo. No need to be so critical.
8:50 - if you look from top, the case must be like '_/\_', not like '/_\_'
The magnet on one side doesn't snap strong.
@@teohontech7141because it's wrong side, turn the last part out, not in
nah refresh is the worst,..not at that price...
As always, the price is too high
someone needs to admit the elephant in the room. as much as e-ink improves year by year, and I have 3 boox devices - the colour rendering and murky grey background remains terrible. these are bi-plane era devices
They still have a long way to go. Hopefully the tech can improve even more
@teohontech7141 how do you find the grey background? I had an old nova colour and I found it too dark. Is it much of an improvement
Depends on your use. For technical documents it is outstanding. It is meant for reading, not browsing/computing.
@@howardwologritz2355 It looks dark, darker than newsprint paper, so it's best to use the front light to get better visual quality
This wouldve been a great product if the iPAD were never invented.
People who buy e-readers are buying for the e-ink display. Otherwise, there are actually many 10-inch Android tablets around USD 200 that have pretty good LCDs too. You don't even need to spend that much on an iPad.
@@teohontech7141 true…I’m basically lazy and like having an all in one device I guess. I really like the markup feature on the iPad for pdf’s…that is the bees knees for me.
"Battery life is pretty good" 😂 is not informative at all!oh man, did you really use this stuff for all the whole day along?
I use it on and off, but not for continuous long stretch. When recording a review, it will be on for 4-6 hours and the battery life is pretty good. It's better than the Bigme Galy I had reviewed early which also has a tendency to drain battery significantly overnight. This tablet has no unusual battery issues.
Trash, just buy Note Air2 plus or Nova Air2
The screen is a major disappointment. My remarkable 2 with no backlight is much more impressive.
wow It's very affordable cheaper tablet 😮