I remember when I was in the US I was a officer cadet and wen my follow see man and I went to an bar they asked us for our ID strange what did they thing about a group of man with identical clothes we are children
I am Danish, 42. Alcohol and tobacco restrictions came in when I was already an adult. All my life, I could go and buy a bottle of vodka and a carton of cigerettes since the earliest of my childhood.
As a German I can say that you definitely get homework on weekends 😄😅Schools that don't give you homework are special schools It was soooo funny to watch this video and the reactions😂😂😂
Yup, lots of homework on the weekend. I know a bunch of people who spend up to 15 hours on homework for weekends. Sometimes I heard stories from others who had only those homework-loving teachers, that they got homework due to the next day that would require like 10 hours of work to get done (just done, not well done). But that combined with going to school until 5 pm on most days is just impossible. (That statement in the video that school is from 8am to 1pm applies maaaaaybe to primery school... that's it. The rest has from 7/8 am to 4/5 pm! ) They should fact check some parts in the vid, cuz some are just wrong information right here.
Ist aber eigentlich so nicht wirklich erlaubt. Es gibt klare Regeln, wie viel Zeit Hausaufgaben in Anspruch nehmen dürfen und es gibt auch klare Regeln, wann Kinder z.B. darauf verzichten dürfen. Problem ist, dass der Stoff, den Lehrer vermitteln sollen, so umfangreich ist, dass es vorne und hinten nicht mehr ausreicht. Da kollidieren Vorgabe und Schultstoff. Theoretisch müsstest Du am Wochenende keine Hausaufgaben machen, weil die Lehrer gar nicht so viel aufgeben dürfen. Machen sie aber, weil ihnen nix anderes übrig bleibt. ^^‘
The "Schultüte" is a present from the family. I handcrafted (with help) my Schultüte at the kindergarden and my parents filled it with sweets, pencils and such things. I still have mine. :D
It hasn't been always like this. Originally it was invented in 19th century in Saxony and was a gift from a friendly headmaster to his pupils. Pointed paper bags (standard grocery packaging at the time) containing sweets and pastries were hung from a tree in the school yard and the newcomers were allowed to take one. That's one story. The other story, also connected to Saxony, says that the custom of the Zuckertüte goes back to the school reforms by Martin Luther and Philipp Melanchthon. Both were irritated by the humiliations children endured at school. So they got rid of the penitentiary hat (also called donkey hat, the pointet hat the KKK or Spanish penitents in processions use) that children had to wear as a punishment. Teachers had to learn to be merciful as God is merciful. As a result, the custom arose that on the first day of school (usually after Michaelmas) the donkey hat in school got filled with sweet cakes and cookies for the new pupils. In other regions you get a sweet pretzel (e.g. me in Hesse, a Brioche kind pretzel), which was supposed to symbolize the path of life or the letter B as next step after A. In later interpretations some people said, its the infinity sign, for infinite knowledge (or infinite stupidity).
the time span in which you are in school actually differs from the grade you are in. 1-4 or 6 grade usually is around 8am-1pm as mentioned in the video but the older you get the more lessons you will have and the longer your days will be. i was in a gymnasium where my longest day was in 11th and 12th grade which was from 7:20am-4pm (with one free period). so as i said, it varies depending on your grade.
You just had lessons til around 4?? Oha du guter…Im in the 8th grade and have lessons til 4 and a the big brother from my friend is in the tenth and has lessons til 4:30 pm🥲
In Netherlands gymnasium was from 8:30 to 3:20 or 4:10 at the latest. And we had like 15 different subjects, with gaps in the schedule that you could use to do homework. I remember in year 4, out of 6, I had like 25 hours a week of classes and barely needed to do any homework, the workload was very light, although some of my thicker classmates did complain.
If you're wondering why in German a "Gymnasium" is a school that is meant to prepare you for university and in english it's a place where you work out: "Gymnasium" comes from the Greek word γυμνάσιον (Gymnásion), which was a place where young men trained both their bodies _and_ minds. English and German ended up focussing on different aspects of that.
@@slouberiee Yeah, also usually of better quality than the specialised schools. The students are usually better prepared for the universities but if they do not intend to continue studying, then they are as good as without the high school.
Fun story about Latin: My cousin, who'd only ever learned Latin at school but not a single word of Italian, chose to go with the group that went to Italy for their graduation trip. He got on totally fine with Latin (cos Latin and Italian are so closely related). Also, you might have an easier time learning other Romanic languages (like French or Spanish) when you already know Latin because you can guess the meaning of a lot of words simply from knowing the Latin word.
Another fun story: I never learned Latin in school but in my later job training in a medical job I could guess a lot of the words from having learned French. :D
Latin is useful for all romance languages. Greek is obviously useful in Greece. Went there on a work trip for a weekend a few years ago and I was the only person who could read the signs on shops. Its also fun being able to understand the etymology of a lot of Latin origin words in English, Dutch, German and many other languages that arent romance language group, on top of it being easier to learn French or Spanish for example.
Hey man! Here is a short comparison of the grades you didn't get. Basically the grades go from 1 to 6 (first place is always the best, so having 1 as the best isn't that awkward from this perspective...), all marks (except the 6) can have a + or a - for slight tendencies, making 1+ the best and 6 the worst mark. Now you write down all marks from 1+ to 6 and count down from 15. Every mark gets a definitive number in the last 3 classes of school for the "Abitur" (some things can be said about this but it basically allows you to attend University), this makes it easier to calculate grades, averages, and points for your qualification and so on. It's basically for making things more transparent but I get your confusion: the shift between two systems is irritating. classes 1-10: classes 11-13: 1+ 15 1 14 1- 13 2+ 12 2 11 2- 10 3+ 9 3 8 3- 7 4+ 6 4 5 4- 4 5+ 3 5 2 5- 1 6 0
As addition. The 15 point system is when you are on a "Gymnasium" (nothing to do with sports) which is a school that gives you the degree allowing you to study on a college or university. For your degree, a certain amount of points from your classes and exams will be added and this will bhe trasnfered into the grade. For example: 609 points from at least 280 and a maximum of 840 points. The grade is 2.0 which is actually better than in the US. 2.0 would be a B but 609 of 840 are 72% which would be a C in the US.
I have been to Gymnasium and never questioned or even thought about this system. But hell it is stupid, why do we do it like that? Do we not trust people before 11th grade to be able to count to 15? And also since as you showed one system perfectly matches the other, why even bother to switch at all.
The 3 tier system made sense when it was introduced in the late 19th century because you needed workers and craftsmen (Hauptschule). You also needed clerks, administrative employees, secretetaries, etc (Realschule) and finally you need lawyers, doctors, scientists and other academics (Gymnasium).
@@lame7560 of cause we do, however there have been studies showing that putting together children with higher and lower affinity for learning enhances the learning effekt. Thats at least one of the many reasons I know of.
@@lame7560 They are still needed, the problem is that this system causes people to be restricted into what they can become later in life. It's around age 11/12 that it's decided for kids if they go to the Hauptschule, Realschule or Gymnasium and only a small number of people knows at that age what they want to do later in life. Yet when they become old enough to enter the job market, the kind of school they went to literally dictates what kind of apprenticeship positions are open to them. There are ways to still get into higher education on a secondary path, but it sucks and requires you to do extra years of school. They should just get rid of this system and not railroad people intro professions when they are 11 years old.
@@roberthartburg266 The problem is that Hauptschule and even Realschule are seen as "lesser Schools" and since any parent would want for their child to be successful one day, the Gymnasium is the way to go And while the Gymnasium is very good at giving you a taste of what higher education feels like, the Hauptschule doesnt focus enough on practical stuff that you would actually want to teach them, just like you learn a secondary language in Gymnasium, the Hauptschule should offer courses for mechanics, craftsmen, whatever, teach them the stuff you´d teach them in the first year of being an actual trainee in the field Instead the Hauptschule is just a worse Realschule, and thus basically just frowned upon
A Schultüte ("school cone"), also known as a Zuckertüte ("sugar cone") in some parts of Germany, is a large cone-shaped, cornucopia-styled container made of paper, cardboard, or plastic. and the children get that from their parents.
"Why would you want to learn Latin" Thats a great question and the answer is pretty easy. Latin is, for the most part, exclusively offered in schools that are geared towards higher education. The thing is: biological and especially medical terminology contains a LOT of Latin. If you want to study medicine in Germany, apart from needing an exceptional GPA, you either have to have had Latin in school OR take a mandatory Latin course additionally to your already very demanding course schedule. At least this was still true a decade ago.
But in the end these are all bad reasons. Actually more words in medicine are greek. :D And it won't help a lot that you had to study all the grammar. You could just study the words. I personally would say Latin is good to learn something about grammar and even improving the german grammar, because you study all the concepts and have to translate it into long german sentences. I also think it just trains the brain, a littlebit like logic. (But they could simply teach logic. Or programing, which nowadays would be better. Or other languages, too.) I like(d) Latin, but it doesn't make much sense to study it, unless you have fun to do so.
I had Latin in school and I really struggled with it, even had to repeat a class because of Latin. However, later when I studied french and spanish it made things sooo much easier for me because both languages are rooted heavily in latin
You also need to know latin if you decide to study languages or history...history for obvious reasons, languages because Latin is the base for a lot of European languages. Granted, you can do the necessary courses once you are in university, but, as you pointed out, that means that you have an extra-workload.
That's not the real reason tbh. Latin courses aren't actually about the language. It offers A LOT of history to learn that you often just gloss over in history classes (greek/roman period), and Latin in school is basically nothing more than really hard puzzle solving which really strengthens your brain and your ability to learn how languages are constructed. If you understand Latin and memorize much of it, you are basically given a headstart onto learning basically every other European language, it makes it a LOT easier and you can realize how much all European languages boil down to stemming from Latin. I'm sad that Latin as a school subject is dying out. It's so much more helpful than Spanish or French where 99% of students don't learn anything at all either besides saying Hello or "My name is X".
@@DonDadda45 So, let’s say it is easier to learn French after having learned Latin. But wouldn’t your French be even better if you had invested all that time and effort spend on Latin directly on French? And once you know one ‘Latin language’, wouldn’t that give you a similar advantage in learning another ‘Latin language’? And you’d end up with knowing two living ‘Latin languages’ instead of just one.
One point I'd like to add, you can always decide to get your Abitur, no matter which form of school you previosuly visited. I know plenty of people who came from Real- and even sometimes Hauptschule to attend the grades 10-12 and get their Abitur at my Gymnasium. It's just a little harder because in Gymnasium you're specifically educated to pass the Abitur, while other school forms don't have to fulfill that need
Age doesn't matter here either. My mother took her second go when she was 28 and told me about a 39 years old woman in her year that had two daughters that bith had their Abitur already, thus creating some funny scenes. The daughter once handed her mother her lunch, for example. The mother was laughing and told the story to the whole Kollege.
Well everybody who changed with best marks like almost 1 in everything from Realschule totally failed with worst marks of 5-6 after first Semester because we had much more stuff to learn and even more "Unterichtsfaecher". Maybe they could try in public gym with less to learn.
When they say "toilet" they don't mean the actual bowl (although I'm sure they are old, too) but the "restroom" or "bathroom" in general. Usually they are pretty run down with broken tiles, old stained faucet - and are being cleaned just once per day, so you can imagine how they look after a couple of hours. Gross. Nothing the school janitor can fix. They are in desperate need of renovation!
"How do the kids get all these rights?" We give the rights to them so they can develop into happy adults, used to and trained in thinking for themselves.
Aber wieso erzieht man Kinder dazu, selbstständig zu denken und zu handeln, wenn sie es dann sowieso nicht mehr dürfen, sofern sie "das Falsche" denken? Dazu passt gut das Sprichwort: "Ich habe nicht laufen gelernt, um dann zu kriechen."
@@se7enhaender Worauf läuft das hinaus? Dass es mehr Geschlechter und Beziehungen als männlich, weiblich und hetero gibt, ist doch inzwischen bewiesen bzw. wahrscheinlicher als die Gegenthese.
I remember that the school toilet was a meeting spot for "Cool kids" who used to hang out there and smoke cigarettes (though they were forbidden). If you needed to pee, you either kept it inside until you could go home, or prepared yourself for a lot of laughter or stench. Until a teacher found out of course 😅 That was back in the 90s, I dunno how things have changed since then.
So true! I live in an eastern European country (which is seen under-developed most of the time) and despite where I travel to I´ll have perfect mobile connection, perfect online services, we had no issues during covid lock-down homeschooling...It´s insane how Germany is behind this digitalization stuff! Sometimes I´m literally nowhere in the woods and have full LTE+ but when I arrive in Germany I can bet that if I had to take the train/ drive through more rural areas my cell will be useless until I hit a city again...
@@kathawenzel8033 Yeah funny but not true though. I have full LTE deep within the thuringian mountainranges deep in the woods. So do not make stuff up oh and the trains usally have Wi-Fi.
Hey, the tripartite school system almost doesn't exist anymore, almost only in Bavaria. We now mostly have a two-tier system of elementary school and "community school (Gemeinschaftsschule)" or "high school (Gymnasium)." The community school replaces the "Realschule" and "Hauptschule".
"How you get those restricions in? Are the kids voting?" Kids in Germany are not voting, but they certainly have rights to get their opinion heard and to get involved in their schools affairs. In most schools there is a "Klassensprecher" elected in every class" - A child voted for by the majority of children, who can voice ideas and complaints of students to the teachers. There also is a "Schülervertretung - SV" elected by all students of the school, whom the headmaster and the teachers will invite to talks about things concerning the students and who will be listened to, if they propose change in school (like a Mensa/Cafeteria for the school). Sometimes this system works very well, sometimes not... Germany signed something called the "UN Convention on the Rights of the Child" an international contract signed by almost every country in the world - except the USA... This contract has to be reflected in German law and government. That is why children in Germany have a right to playtime: Article 31 "All children have a right to relax and play, and to join in a wide range of activities." In order to achieve this: No homework on weekends. And yes, children are asked their opinions and are given opportunities to lobby for their interests: Article 12: "Children have the right to say what they think should happen, when adults are making decisions that affect them, and to have their opinions taken into account."
@@mrac.. No, but we know our basic rights (Grundrechte), in 7th grade every child gets a Grundgesetz book, with basic human rights in it, and we learn about it in politics. Later, during Abitur/ A-levels you have social/political/economical science and there you learn everything about Europe, the political system, world wide politics compared to ours, etc. But in all honesty, most Germans want to know their rights, in order to stand up for yourself and to make fun of our lobbyism and bureaucracy. 😂
@@annaluciaschmitz what the hell? We didn't get the Grundgesetz! Maybe because of covid, we don't have a formelsammlung because of that either, but still! I want one too! And yes, I know that every citizen has the right to get one for free but im too lazy to do that!
I remeber in my german elementary school years - a boy broke the window in the restrooms and they covered it with cardboard cuz they couldn't afford to fix it. And years later in 9-10th grade ppl would always vandalize the toilets ,the janitor stopped doing anything ..soooo no more toilets.
1:30 No, that's completely atypical actually. Only a few schools do that, the vast majority does not. There is no need for a lunch period because the kids will usually be at home for lunch. 3:30 This system is only used in the 11th to 13th grade at Gymnasiums. 15 equals 1+, 14 equals 1, 13 equals 1-, 12 equals 2+ etc all the way down to 0 which equals a 6. To pass a test you need at least 5 points (which equals a 4). 4:50 Latin is still an important language today because it is still used in many scientific fields, including but not limited to medicine and biology for example. And it is of course super important for everyone who studies anything related to European history, especially when speaking of antiquity or the middle ages. 7:10 Not exactly. Not every kid can keep up with the speed and amount of lessons that are required for Gymnasium - and instead of having to square the circle and try to bring kids up to speed that can't learn as quickly as some others while at the same time not slowing down the kids that have an easier time learning stuff we have different types of schools taking care of that problem. It's also not excluding people who went to a Realschule or Hauptschule to get an Abitur afterwards - there's awveral ways to do for people who want that, even as an adult. It's hard and a lot of work, however even someone who got a Hauptschulabschluss has the chance to make Abitur and go to university eventually. It should be mentioned though that unlike the USA we highly value jobs that do not require a university degree, and a lot of craftsman jobs on average are well payed. 8:50 The teachers are the ones who can evaluate how the individual students keep up and how easily they learn. A child that has problems learning things like math or struggles with languages will usually not be able to keep up with the pace of learning at a Gymnasium. A friend of mine from elementary school was recommended for Realschule however his parents decided to send him to the Gymnasium....and he wasn't able to keep up and failed miserably. His grades where so bad that he would have had to repeat the year. The parents then decided to take him out of Gymnasium and send him to a Realschule instead and within the next year his grades where way better - he was in fact one of the best of his class at the Realschule. However failing at the Gymnasium did send him to a bad mental state for a while until the good grades at the Realschule started rolling in. The decision to which school a kid should go should be done with the best interests of the kid in mind, not to flatter the ego of the parents. 13:25 Beer and wine at 16, hard liquor at 18.
It's only "atypical" in the old/western states. In eastern Germany, school canteens are the norm because far more women work full time (part of the GDR "heritage").
I remember that in East Germany there were always school canteens with about 3 different dishes. In the previous week, there was a meal plan for the coming week and parents could buy meal tickets for the respective dish (chosen by the pupil / student) of the respective weekday in the following week.
@@Nils.Minimalist It's still pretty similar, at least as far as I can tell from myown experience (went to school 2002-2014). The only difference was that the meal tickets started to be ordered online after a few years and that they were replaced by electronic cards in the early 2010s.
Here in Schleswig-Holstein we have "Gemeinschaftsschulen" in which you can get the ESA (Hauptschulabschluss), MSA (Realschulabschluss) and the Abitur. In grade 9 you can write the ESA, but only those students whose teachers are unsure if they are smart enough for the MSA. After this some stay on the same school (if the marks are good enough) and try to get the MSA and others do an apprenticeship. The same is with the MSA, just a year later. For the Abitur you leave school after 13 years. (I hope this all makes sense in the way i wrote it down. If not, i'm sorry.) I think this system is better than seperating the children after primaryschool, cause some might not seem to be the smartest when they are 10 years old, but when they get older. Also the better students often help the ones that aren't that good. But this is just my opinion based of my own experience. I hope it isn't to confusing and you can understand my english.
3:20 Until 10th grade, the 1 - 6 grading system is in place, where 1 is the best grade and 6 is the worst. Sometimes, the teacher will add a + or - to indicate, if it was a close call for a better or worse grade and indicate tendency of your performance. These tendencies don't show up on your report card, though and are purely for your personal information on your performance, though. From 11th grade on to your graduation, the tendencies actually do count and the system therefore changes. You now get 0 to 15 points instead of grades with 15 being the best result, equivalent to a 1+: 15 = 1+ 14 = 1 13 = 1- 12 = 2+ 11 = 2 10 = 2- 9 = 3+ 8 = 3 7 = 3- 6 = 4+ 5 = 4 4 = 4- 3 = 5+ 2 = 5 1 = 5- 0 = 6
thanks for the explenation, i live in germany but i never heard of this system, because i stopped after 10th grade, sounds interesting but nothing i would want to deal with XD
We had a school where the architects had the grandiose idea of not drawing up the walls of the bathroom buildings (yes, they were in an extra "house" outside the main building) to the ceiling so that any stink could immediately disappear (the intention, presumably). That also meant that it would be icy cold in winter in those bathrooms and that anyone outside could hear what was going on inside plus the boys would throw little rocks and stuff inside. Also, another stupid feature: you had to estimate the amount of toilet paper you'd need beforehand and rip it off before going into the bathroom stall... luckily, we knew where the teacher's toilets were and they were not always locked... and you betcha those were clean.
Helps a lot with the German language and its grammar, too. I hated it in school - but apart from maths it is probably the subject that has helped me in many cases since then. Not just with quiz shows...
"gross toilets" is a funny way to describe those junkyards of bathrooms some schools have. In most schools (at least from what I've seen in my 18 years of life in Germany) the toilets are tolerable, like generally clean, sure, there is a good chance you will get some infection because of the condition they're in, but it's generally okay to use them. Now those where the normal toilets but there are actually schools, where the cabin toilets (I guess they are called so in english) have walls or doors with giant holes in them, there is legitimate shit on the ceiling somewhere and 3 out of 4 walls have mould on them. Also it can sometimes happen that there is no water in the bathroom to wash your hands and when it's there, it's honestly questionable to use the water because it's not that unlikely you will actually end up with some serious infection if you do. I think that sums up the German toilet situation in schools at least for the hygiene part. Also another thing: Everything that has to do with the digitally connecting stuff and the internet in general in some way or another is a complete disaster here in Germany. The standard internet speed of a house, which is not located in a city is about 16 Mbps per contract, in realty it's more like 6-8 Mbps.
Ooooh, digitalisation is a huuuuge issue in Germany. Some 30 or so years ago we *almost* got a complete overhaul with fiber optic cables, as a country, but last minute, politicians decided to just overclock the shit out of our copper cables. It's terribly slow at peak hours and often breaks down. I live literally in the centre of a city of 300k people and I'm sending this out via copper cables. Modernisation is expensive and the German government is legally bound (by our constitution) not to go into a lot of debt, so try to invest in the future with that and with parties that refuse to increase taxes on the wealthy (despite what the ill-informed might claim, Germany has medium to low taxes compared to similar countries).
"Ooooh, digitalisation is a huuuuge issue in Germany. Some 30 or so years ago we almost got a complete overhaul with fiber optic cables, as a country, but last minute, politicians decided to just overclock the shit out of our copper cables" nope, only one....helmuth kohl.....was a good friend of kirch...they made a deal about crappy copper cables and private tv....
Also the limitation of debt led to the strange situation that 3G, 4G and 5G frequencies were auctioned to the telcos like Telekom, Vodafone or Telefonica. The government earned billions of Euros each time. This would have been acceptable if that money had been spent for digital infrastructure. But they put it to the general budget and the telcos had much less money to invest in order to establish an appropriate infrastructure including fiber connectivity. I live in a big city (500.000 residents) but still running on 16 Mbit copper. Situation has become even worse due to EU consumer protection laws two years ago: If the speed is lower than your contract promises you now have to get a refund from your provider. But the telcos did not speed up their lines, they downgraded the contracts and limited the bandwidth to a quality the could achieve. My contract was downgraded from 50 to 16 Mbit and the actual data speed went down from approx. 40 to 20 Mbit. Thank you, consumer protectors!
In my school we have a more or less stable internet connection and we're using iPads (which we had to buy ourselves if we don't want to use paper) At home we have like a 50k download connection (100k contract 🥲)
Honestly, it the example school seems to be in city in West Germany, in some schools in small towns in east germany still didn't have electric whiteboards. And I was very surprised during my internship at my former Gymnasium that the seniors were allowed to used tablets in class (they're only 4 years younger than me!). We weren't even allowed to use our phones during brakes!
For the digital stuff: germany has a massive lack on general digitalization for different reasons. In school, one of the reasons is data privacy. "Datenschutz" is very high valued in Germany, for good and not really good. Great debates since decades. The other reason is simpel: money. The schoolsystem had big shortages for a long time. Coming to the toilets, a lot of schools are old buildings, often there are toilets from the 1980s still at work, so it stinks not because it is not clean, but because something is broken. But yes, sometimes it is not clean enough, because the cleaning workers have not enough time and time is money. All the buildings issues are very expensive and also full of, well, a lot of laws and paperwork. The building belong to the town/community, somehow public. Which means, a school can not just call someone to fix it, because of the danger of potential corruption. Big story. In one school I know, parents volunteer to fix the toiletproblem, but were not allowed to. This also is Germany.
For different types of schools in Germany, the times are varying. I’m in “Gymnasium” and many school days for me go from 7:50am to 4pm. I get home at 5pm… (my longest day, my shortest is til 1pm and that’s Fridays 😏) In Grade school, I went from 8:10am to 1pm every day.
concerning the grades here: Generally speaking, the system of 1 (best) to 6 (worst) is common from school years 1-10ish. These grades individually get split in three categories. So for example: you can get a 1-, a 1 or a 1+ on your test. 1- is still the best grade possible, but the "-" says that within the best possible grade you fall under the lowest category/got the lowest amount of points. If you get slightly more points your grade goes up from 1- to 1 and if you get even more points it rises rom a 1 to a 1+. After school year 10, the system is "replaced" with the 1-15 point-system with 1 being the lowest and 15 being the highest. This switch was confusing for me at the start aswell. This is done to better differenciate the perfomances of the pupils . For example: 15 points is the optimum amount of points you can get, which equals the 1+ of the system above mentioned. 14 points would be equal to a 1 and 13 points equal to a 1-. the main differences between these two systems are that for the first system you will only see the 1-6 without the "+" or "-" on your report card whereas with the other system you see the points that are the equivalent of the "+" and "-". Basically, you can only see how good your 1 really was on your report card, when the second system is used.
No, that's wrong. 1- isn't the best grade, 1 is the best. There is no 1+ in this system. In Elementary and Secondary I (grades 5 to 9/10) School the best grade is 1 the worst 6. You count 1 (=A in US), 1-, 2+, 2 (=B), 2-, 3+, 3 (=C), 3-, 4+, 4 (=D), 4-, 5+, 5 (=F), 5-, 6+, 6. In Secondary II (grades 10/11-13) the best grade is 15 and the worst 0. You count 15 (=1+ / 100-96%), 14 (=1 / 95-91%), 13 (=1- / 90-86%), 12 (= 2+ / 85-81%) ... The percentage is not generally fixed, but varies from state to state, or even from school to school.
@@Frohds14 No, i meant that 1 is still the best grade possible, no matter if you have a "-" or a "+" behind it. I referred to the number not the specific grade of 1-. Also a 1+ absolutely exists. Had some friends who got this grade in school. In our state of NRW the grade 6+ did not exist. Here we were told that there is only a 6, because if you get that grade you failed completely and it would be irrelevant to differanciate between a 6+ and a 6. But this of course might vary between states in germany
@@G-o-R-i-ll-a-Z Was bitte ist daran kompliziert? Ist A-F, wie in den USA, einfacher? Die Schweiz zählt umgekehrt zu uns von 6-1, auch da ist die 4 die unterste Bestehensnote. Ist das weniger kompliziert? Oder etwa das dänische Notensystem, das von -3 bis 12 Punkte geht, allerdings nicht gezählt, sondern es gibt nur die Noten 12 (bei Harry Potter wäre das "Ohne Gleichen"), 10, 7, 4, 02, 00 (ein Schelm wer Böses dabei denkt) und -3 (bei Harry Potter wäre das "Troll"). Bis 2007 war das Notensystem in Dänemark noch merkwürdiger. Da gab es als beste Note die Note 13, die aber nicht vergeben werden durfte.
The students don't get to choose wether they will go to a Hauptschule, Realschule or Gymnasium. The teachers decide. However, if you're not happy with the school you were sent to, you can pursue a higher education after graduation. If you were in a Hauptschule, then you can take an Apprentice Ship to get the Realschulabschluss. After that, you can pursue an other apprentice ship. Or do what students who aren't happy with the Realschule can do. If you were in the Realschule, but you really want your Abitur, then you csn go to the.FOS (Fachoberschule) to get your Fachabitur. This can be an Abitur for technology, an Abitur for economics, or an Abitur for a different field. If you want a general Abitur, you will have to finish an apprentice ship, and go to the BOS (Berufsoberschule) to get the general Abitur. If you were from the Hauptschule and got your Realschulabschluss through an Apprentice Ship, then you can go straight to the BOS to get your general Abitur. I have had an apprentice ship in warehousing. And I am not happy with my profession. In September, I will.attend the BOS, get my Abitur, and go study Civil Engineering, because I have a passion for building.
Wi-Fi wasnt needed at the most schools before covid because they hadn't subjects that needed smartphones, Computers etc. So when Covid came around they had a very big problem and couldn't upgrade a whole school that fast. The same goes for online sites where kids gould put or geht homework etc. They just werent needes before all that. Why are school toilets so gross or why is the playground so old? Mostly because the schools dont get the money from the state to upgrade/renovate. I remember that our School Toilets looked like they were from the 70s. and yeah the most time they didnt even work.
At my school mobile phones were even forbidden to use within the building. There was simply no need for W-Lan in the school. The only place that had internet available for the students was the library if you borrowed one of the laptops or the computers in the informatics classrooms.
You don't get a meal provided at schools in Australia unless you go to private schools. You take your own lunch from home to eat school. When I went to high school the grading system went from 1-7 with a 7 being the best. In primary school it was A-F with A being best.
when it comes to digitalisation, germany is very much still stuck in the late 90s, early 2000s. We rank amongst the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to access to the internet in europe, even behind states like Romania, and also when it comes to internet speed nationwide. Areas with zero internet access or signal are still quite common here and occurr even within big cities. So yeah, internet access and digitalisation not a strong suite of us. real quote from our FORMER minister of education: "Man braucht Internet nicht an jeder Milchkanne", which translated means roughly "No one needs access to the internet at every farm/rural area". I think that sums this up perfectly^^
Even behind states like Romania? Why "even"? Honestly, I am coming from another (even poorer) Balkan country and now living in Germany, and in my country we have much better and more affordable internet, more digitalised services, possibility to make a doctor appointment via the cellphone app in 20 seconds, more functional and faster bureaucracy. I won't even go to the topic of other services not related to digitalisation, such as getting an electrician or plumber...
another reason is that Germany privatized the phone/internet networks and therefore the company will only expand the networks, if the population in the area would bring in enough money. So, in rural areas expansion costs a lot of money but the company will not make all the money back. These areas then get skipped, obviously.
@@withoutshadowww I'm working for an internet service provider in Germany. I once had a customer from Bulgaria on the phone. He told me, that his mother, living in a 50.000 inhabitants small town owns a Gigabit connection for 25 EUR/month. All I could offer him was a crappy 16 Mbit/s connection for 35 EUR/ month - and I even couldn't guarantee the 16 Mbit/s at all! This example shows perfectly how much Germany has lost touch with other EU countries when it comes to broadband expansion.
At my highschool in Europe, no one ate at the cafeteria/ at school. We would get 60 minutes lunch break and everyone just wondered off to get lunch at the restaurants and cafes or snackbars in town. There was a cantina at school, but only some teachers really went there
So, there's this thing called the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child wich came in force in 1990. It is one of the most supported conventions of the UN. Only one UN member has not ratified it. The USA. The UNCRC is a human rights treaty that is all about the civil, political, economic, social, health and cultural rights of children. Added on were optional protocols concerning children involved in military conflicts and one that prohibits the sale, prostitution or pornography of children.
At my old middle school some of the toilets wasn't even attached to the wall... or someone tried to set the toilet on fire. And my school had like 300 kids, 10 teachers and no janitor. So I only had up to 4 hour in school (because of the lack of teachers)😅😆. I once had NO school for 3 month.
Be aware this video, really simplified the school system, so the basics are covered for all federal states. The complications start after that. I haven't seen a comment on the part of the "Förderschule" , so I'll try my best to give you a better insight to it. Yes, the start of this school wasn't very good and had/sometimes still has a bad reputation. On the other hand, special schools for blind or deaf people fall aswell under this kind of school, as they need special tools and lessons (e.g. braille for the blind). The curriculum there is more that of a "Gesamtschule" (= all school types - "Haupt/Mittel"-school, "Real/Wirtschafts"-schule and "Gymnasium" under one roof). My neighbor's son was deaf, graduated with his "Abitur" and went on to study for Bio-engineer ... The main part of all the pupils in the "Förderschule", however, are mentally and/or bodily disabled children, who couldn't fit into the "normal" schoolsystem, due to e.g. access to the classroom on the second floor because there is no elevator (mainly in very old school buildings, but those still exist 🤷♀️) or due to not having enough teachers, who can accommodate to the needs the pupil, e.g. a pupil with dyslexia (problems with reading) AND Dyskalkul (problems with numbers) on top of ADHS, has. The curriculum is very similar to the one of the "Hauptschule", but on a slower pace (at least where I'm living). Furthermore there is always a qualified nurse in house and a doctor - at least - on tap. This is not the case in the other schools. There are schools, that are called "integrated", but often times they can only pick up a certain amount of disabled students. The main reason is funding. Depending on the kind of school, it is the community, county and/or state ... The "Förderschule" is funded by the state AND country (as far as I know), what basically equals with more funding. I hope this helped a bit in understanding. Take care - Europe ⚘
Secondary school recommendations are mostly based on grades. Back in the day (when I was in elementary school. So about 15 years ago for 4th grade) there was something called "Kopfnote" (lit. Headgrade) it was a way to grade a students social behaviour with grades from 1-4 (one being the best). My normal grades were basically all 1's so I was recommended for a Gymnasium (the "best" of the 3 school types) but all of my "Kopfnoten" were a 4 (meaning I was an aggressive antisocial trash child) and thus I didn't get accepted into the gymnasium. I attended a realschule (the "2nd best") instead. Honestly, its not even bad if you land on a haupschule (where I ended up in the end and the worst) as long as you work on your grades. Hauptschule in most cases takes until grade 10 to finish. On many haupschule you can also get your "realschulabschluss (the 2nd best) if you put the work in, in the same amount of time. Add 2-3 years on top and you can get your abitur (which takes 12-13 years anyways). I ended up in the worst kind of school and still got the best "certificate" (if you can call it that?) after only 1 year more than the others.
In my town the "Schultüte" is handcrafted at the kindergarden by the parents (mostly Mums) and filled with sweets, pencils and such things. It is usually decorated according to the child´s interests, ie unicorns, soccer, space, animals... I would have loved to buy the Schultüte, since I´m not very good at handcrafting, but my children insisted on having a "selfmade" one. Now they are 17 and 21 and still have their Schultüte.
In Saxony the recommendation from the teacher is binding and it's really hard if you were misjudged and try to climb up the ladder. I had luck and went to Gymnasium but because one teacher didn't like me they wanted me to go to a Förderschule because I was crying a lot in her presence.
Most of the schools were rebuilt after WW2 or rebuilt in the child boom times of the 1960s. But especially in the last 30 years or so, schools have been neglected and funds have been cut as part of austerity measures. As a result, it was not possible to finance long-overdue modernizations or the long-overdue digitization. In other words, toilets that are 30 - 50 years old stink.
My Elementary School (village) was so old that we only had 3 classrooms for 4 classes, the toilets were outside the building, a gym didn't exist and we had an aditional building on the school ground were the director lived. It was cozy though.
Here in Hamburg you go to Grundschule for 4 years and then there is Gymnasium and Stadtteilschule. If you go to Stadtteilschule you‘ll have more time to learn and thats the reason why you have 1 year more (till 13th grade).
1-6 basically corresponds to A-F grades. I'm not entirely sure, but i believe "E" is not used in the US, it goes straight from "D-" to "F" as the failure grade. That's not so in Germany. The usual failure grade for someone who at least made an effort is "5", with "6" being reserved for absolutely catastrophic failure such as handing in an empty sheet of paper. The 1-15 system in the later years is interpreted as a points score. More points are better ;-)
Effort, hah, yes, that's it! In a test once, we had to write a short essay on a philosophical/ethical question... and for an unspecified reason, I could not think of anything to write. But I didn't want to return an empty paper, so I wrote down a memorized foreign language poem. I got a 5... and the comment from the teacher that he had to give me that, because he couldn't be sure if my text didn't answer the question... he didn't understand it. Don't let it ever be said that Germans don't have a sense of humour!
@@Groffili a classmate of mine turned in her French essay exam in Spanish. She read the assignment (French) once, tuned out to think about it and pumped out a couple of sheets of paper in record time. But in Spanish. Our teacher was very cool about it though and talked to the other French teacher (we had 2 French classes for a couple of years, because there were too many students for just one) and my classmate was allowed to repeat the exam with the other class some days later (they had a different assignment of course, so she couldn't prepare more than everyone else). And as a little bonus, the French teacher handed the essay to her Spanish teacher and he gave her a little plus in his grade book, like if she had handed in some extra work.
Before corona it was mantra “get children away from monitors” and during corona it was problem in many countries. Regarding toilets … I remember my school till 4th class … in 100 years old building … sometimes you need a bit more than just cleaning staff.
I went to a gymnasium in Germany and literally next to our school there was a Hauptschule. Our toilets have been super clean with toilet paper and soap but the toilets in the other school were gross, so what happened is that almost all kids from the other school would come over into our school and used the clean toilets. 😂
As a german you don’t even recognise how bad this video is made. It’s good to see an American react to it and see his confusion. I hope someone will make a new video, where it’s better explained
To the Gymnasium, Realschule and Hauptschule: When you are in a Gymnasium, the school expects more from you and lessons are harder. In a Realschule is everything a bit more simple and in a Hauptschule the school lessons are pretty “easy” for Gymnasiasten( people which are going to the Gymnasium) Also: the primary school teachers will give you an assessment which depends on your grades. The better the grades, the higher the chance, that a Gymnasium will take you.
8:19 if they hated you, they’d rather send you to the Hauptschule, as it’s perceived as the “lowest” secondary school. Or, well, they’d send you to Gymnasium because it’s the most difficult one
one thing i wanne mention is that we dont really have janitors working the whole time here. They clean the school when everyone is gone + we also need to clean the classroom befor we go home (dunno if thats just my schhol tho (i go to an gymnasium)) oh and while we're on the topic teachers decide where you should go based on you're grades so that means if you have good grades you can go to an gymnasium lmao its rlly stupid and tbh lots of kids switch schools bc its to hard for them. oh and here we dont get free food in secondary school Dx its sad tbh bc if we want some its expensive as hell. Oh andddd ofc not every school does that thing with the homework restrictions for example mine didnt have that sadly.
Well, yes, there are restrictions on homework at the weekend, but those are only for friday to monday homework, meaning that you can absolutely have homework over the weekend, but if it's given to you on friday, t can't be for monday. Friday to tuesday or thursday to monday is fine^^ 12:15 well, Germany is pretty advanced in many ways- non of which are digital... the principal of my school recently told us that we had some teens from Ukraine, but they would'nt participate in any of our classes. They only need Wi-Fi to access their classes online. We were stunned, because for us that was hard to imagine, since we simply aren't developed that well digitally...
The Schultüte is gifted to children by their parents, and sizes may vary. Mine was as big as the one shown, but some kids only got a small one, only about a third of that size... Hauptschule (How-pt-shoe-leh), education for 8 years total, you graduate with a Hauptschul(-)abschluss, literally "Hauptschul diploma". "Abschluss" is pronounced up-shluss (the u in shluss sounds like the u-sound in "who") When referring to the Abschluss you also drop the "e" in the -schule suffix. So it becomes "schul", pronounced shoel. Realschule (ray-ahl-shue-leh), education for 10 total, after which you usually get the opportunity to add the 3 remaining years of gymnasium, but you don't have to. Again, Realschul-Abschluss. Gymnasium (gym-nah-see-um), education for 12-13 years total. I believe most states got rid of the 12-year plan (referred to as G-8) because it was simply unnecessary to divide classes, just for a one year difference. Same stuff to learn, but the 13 year plan (referred to as G-9) just gives you more time to go more in-depth while studying. You graduate with an Abitur, or "Abi" for short (Ah-bee-tour/ Ah-bee). You need this diploma to get into university, as it is also our "Hochschulzulassung"/higher education admission. So saying, that your teachers would've put you into gymnasium actually means that they would've thought you were smart enough to make it! :D Also, the reason why kids have so "many" rights, is that our education system works hand in hand with child developement specialists, who try and make the children's experience as efficient as possible. It's better to have restrictions to guarantee that kids develop the social communication skills, and actually have time to digest what they learned, instead of just cramming for grades only to become burnt-out.
This school cone is also called sugar cone, is made by parents. Either in kindergarten or you buy them with the school bag. They are filled by parents, grandparents and godparents. With sweets and other small things for school
She forgot to mention that you can also change the school after finishing a year with A's and B's, so can "climb up your education" for example you finsh 6th grade Hauptschule, good grades---> Promotion to Realschule und you Start there New school year 7th grade, the opposit way is also possible.
I searched for a Gymnasium that offered latin classes for my second language because I really had trouble in english and german. If I had to haven taken french, I would have never made it. There is a saying here that latin is for the more math and sience leaning people, since you barely speak or write in it
The 15 points just mean the amount of points that you achieve on a test/exam/class. So the moment that you go to the 11th-12th(sometimes 13th) grade the system just works with points since you need a certain amount of points to be able to graduate. And yes 15 points equals a 1+ but that's just a way of making it easier to calculate the grade average of someone.
About the grades: The students usually get grades using the 1-6 system. 6 is the worst grade and the system goes over 5-, 5, 5+, 4-, 4, 4+, ... up to 1+ being the best grade. To pass the school year, your grades in your annual report have to follow certain rules: 1. No 6 in any subject 2. Two or less 5s in any subject 3. If you got a 5 in any subject, you need another subject with grade of 3 or better to compensate the 5. Only one 5 is allowed in any main subject. Main subjects are: - Maths - German - English - Physics or Chemistry (depends on school) Students in higher school years (11th grade and higher) get grades using the 0-15 system. The 0 in this system equals the 6 in the common 1-6 system and the 15 equals the 1+ in the common system.
In the state where I live (Hamburg) there are only two secondary schools the stadtteilschule wich goes up untill 13 grade and the gymnasium wich goes up untill 12 grade. The Stadtteilschule are for the kids who are not so smart and the gymnasium are for the gifted children.
There is a rule for giving homework in Hessen. When you have a subject on Friday(like german) which you also have on Monday( after the weekend) and you also have school til the 9th lesson(on Friday) the teacher is not allowed to give you homework in that subject
I went to a Realschule (graduated 2010). It had, for the time, a good IT infrastructure but most of it was a pilot project. A projector in every class, the teachers had a PC at the front (obviously hooked up to the projector under the ceiling) and two classes (out of 4 to 5) of each year had lessons with a laptop. Problem was, most teachers didn't know anything about IT, so even though we had to bring the laptop to school (together with the books, since no lockers), it was only used about 40% of the time...
Quite unusual but very nice. My son give her sister a Schultüte at her very last day in school. She was very pleased by that idea. But normally Schultüte is handcrafted in the kindergarten by the kids themselves.
In Germany we have a so called “Gymnasium” instead of the Highschool if you want to graduate after 13 years of school instead of 10. Those schools recently started using a new marking system where you get “mark points” instead of the actual mark. These go from 1 to 15 where 15, as said in the video, is the best. To get your actual mark, the 15 points are separate into 6 areas. If you got 0 mark points you automatically get the mark 6 but each section from 1 point is separate in three points, because you got marks like +5, -5, +1 or -1.
If you are a working class kid, it is until this day, often, that you are send to Hauptschule or Realschule. If your parents are doctors or lawyers your way to gymnasium is more "open". It naturally depends on your grades, but a working class family can may not help you in gymnasium or pay years of rent and such when your studying. So in germany it also depends, in which family you were born.
Also a very important thing she didn‘t mention is that EVERY teacher has to have a University degree. No matter what class or subject they are teaching (yes, even sports or music class in 1st grade, not even a professional soccer player like Ronaldo could come in and just become a sports teacher if he wanted to). This is mostly (but not only) because they have to learn the educational part aswell. German schools also always have a „trust teacher“ who often doesn‘t even give classes but is just there to support children when they argue with their friends, have issues at home or even with teachers or their mental health. Everyone can go to them at all times and ask for help and they will provide you with solutions or have a word with the teachers if they treat children badly (the child stays anonymous ofc!). Usually you are in a group of 15-30 people who will have all classes together (some schools are different, but most have these strict classes that don‘t usually mix with others). If you feel uncomfortable or just want to change class, you usually can without any issues. Oh and homework on weekends are still given to the children, but not on vacation!
It also has disadvantages to have such high education standards for teachers. In the Netherlands we have a very similar system of education. We also have massive shortage of teachers for nearly all subjects. I would like to be a teacher, the pay is decent enough, you can work in your own town with no commute and I like children, I think theyre great fun to be around. But to become a teacher, I would need to get a bachelors and a masters degree in, for example, physics, Dutch or English literature, etc, and then go to a teachers school for an additional year to get certified. While with my knowledge I could teach at least Dutch, English, physics, math, geography, history, and economics at gymnasium level without any problem. I wouldnt even need to read the books. But I cant do that because of regulations and I dont want to or can afford to go to school for 5 or 6 years to get the qualifications. Hence we have shortages of teachers and classes are getting canceled all over the country because they cant find people to do the job.
Let's add my 2 cent^^ also I'm out of school for about 20 years, things seems have changed? At least till the mid 2000's it depended on you average marks on which branch you'll go. As mentioned in the video, everyone attends grad 1 till 4. In grade 3 teachers started to give marks for tests ( in my time ) at the end of grade 4, all marks from all your classes ( except P.E.) will be averaged out and if you had an overall 2.9 or better you would go to the '' Gymnasium '' = Grade 12 / 13 ( and only with that, are you allowed in universities ) . Or if you have an average score of 3.0 you would go to the '' Regelschule '' which is grade 5 and 6. At the end of grade 6 you will be judged again on your marks 2.9 or better / 3.0 or worse, which will decide, if you go on with '' Realschule '' grade 10 or '' Hauptschule '' grade 9. mind you if you can manage to improve your average score you can change to the better branch for e.g after grade 6 or 10, if you have a 1.9 or better you might change to the gymnasium. On the other hand if you have terrible marks ( like to many 5's ) you could slip down to Real- or Hauptschule. Another fun fact, if you have a Hauptschullabschluss ( grade 9 diploma ) and you finish an Apprenticeship ( were you have a portion in a school ) you have the chance to gain a Realschulabschluss ( grade 10 diploma ) if you have a 2.9 or better at the end of the school portion of your apprenticeship. Though apprenticeships are a whole other topic on it's own. It is a class system, in the most basic terms : Hauptschüler ( schüler = pupil ) age around 15, it's the working class in factories. Realschüler age around 16, the administrative class, office workers and so on. Abiturienten ( short Abi ) age 18/19 the ''elitist class'' for Lawyer, doctor, ... . This whole thing wasn't really well explained, or has changed in the past 20 years. I have to add I at first attended till grade 10, did a 3 year apprenticeship after ( which is paid in Germany btw ^^, but poorly xD ) and than realized I should have paid attention in school to get better marks and go for an Abi. So, I attended the Fachoberschule ( something like a subject specialized college, mine was in Art ), which equals grade 12, but is still not the same as an Abi. Another question of yours about the '' cone '' Schultüte . It is bought or made by parents / family and filled with goodies contributed by family and friends. And a 3rd thing I want to address, is the how many hours are spend in school. As the video stated usually school starts at 8 am, but depending on your age, the amount of of classes will increase. For Example, grade 1- 4 , about 5 45 min hours. All classes have a break in between. Hour 1, 5 min break, hour 2, 25 min break ( breakfast ), hour 3, 5 min break, hour 4, 25 min break ( Lunch ) hour 5, home by about 12pm ( or if the parents are working, an after school program till about 3 or 4 pm ) Starting with grad 5/6 I had mostly 6 hours a day and once a week 7. home about 1 -1.30pm Mostly 7 hours in grade 7 and 8. home about 2.30 pm and twice a week 8 hours in grade 9 / 10, home after 3pm Mind you, that was for the Haupt / Realschul branches, I don't know if there are differences for the Gymnasium. might be a bit late given that your vid is out for over 11 months by this time and you probably won't read comments by then, but if you do read this and wasn't a total waste of time xD than I hope it clarified it a bit more^^
I’m from bavaria and here (like in other states) the recommendation is kinda binding based on your performance in elementary school. So basically how you perform on exams from the ages of 6 to 9 will determine the school you go to and even if you are gonna be able to study at a university. The students with the worst grades will only be able to go to the Hauptschule. These students are usually not able to work in high paying jobs or in the academic field. If your grades are average you can go to the former or to the Realschule after wich you could go on and further you education at the gymnasium or fachoberschule and also achieve an abitur which allows you to go to university. If your grades in elementary school are above average or just very good, you are able to also go to gymnasium which goes by the normal grading system up to grade 10. In grades 11-12/13 you are rated in points rather then grades. At the end of your final year you take the big exams (Abitur Prüfungen) and if you pass those you get your Abitur. The grade you get in it will determine if you can go on and which courses you can study in university since some courses have high requirements. For example, if you want to study medicine in order to become a doctor you’ll need a score of a 1,0 in the Abitur which is basically the best score you could achieve
But if you graduate one of the 'lower' types of school you can go to the next level and graduate there in 1 or 2 years. So you can start at Hauptschule and eventually graduate Gymnasium and go to university. At least that is how it works in the Netherlands.
In higher classes there isn't a grading system from 1 to 6 anymore, there are point you can get and 15 is the highest. So fifteen points would be a 1+ for younger students. The Plus only means that you are nearer to the next higher (2+) or lower (3-) grade. So if you get a 2+ in a test, it means you were close to a 1. But in the end, the pluses or minuses don't count on your school report, it's just for your own orientation how good or bad you were
Schultüte: A gift for the kid from their family. Lunch: No, you dont "need" one to make it through the whole school day if it entds arround 1PM Grades: 1 equals A in the US system and 6 equals F in the US system. "Higher" numbers are only for almost-adult kids (11th-13th class). The wood panel is not on the outdoors court but usually just wall decorations inside of the school's gym. The different kinds of schools are not only based on what you want to do as an adult, but also on the abilities of a kid. In theory at least.. As germany has 16 states there are 16 school systems..its a mess. This video is highly simplyfied.
In our school we are not allowed to use the Wi Fi because the school's servers just can't handle it. But there were still students who managed to get the password. I once found it out while typing in a simple command in cmd on one of the tablets.
Hello, I come from the southwest of Germany, so Baden Württemberg. We have school here from 5th grade until 3:30 pm. However, it varies, because some schools start at 7:55, others already at 7:40. There are schools where there is a five-minute break between the first and second hour and between the third and fourth hour or the fifth and sixth hour. But there are also schools that don't have those breaks. Aside from that, most Gemeinschaftsschulen do not offer a Abitur. According to the paper, Gemeinschaftsschulen should offer all three degrees, but we don't have the teachers we need. And one more little historical fact->. Our school system is a remnant from the past that was supposed to separate society. Actually, it was not supposed to promote the individual, but to make sure that everyone goes to a school that corresponds to their standing in society. In other words, fathers should send their children to the same school they themselves have already been to, so that no one climbs the social ladder. The German school system is correspondingly ailing and should be urgently overhauled. The concept of Gemeinschaftsschulen or Gesamtschulen was of course a brilliant idea, but unfortunately it is poorly implemented. I can say from my own experience that most teachers do not voluntarily teach at a Gemeinschaftsschule because they actually want to go to a higher school to get a higher salary. because teachers are also prepared differently depending on what level they are supposed to teach at. Apart from that, the system around teachers in general is absolutely stupid. If you are not a civil servant but only an employee, you will most likely be dismissed during the summer vacations and will not get a salary for six weeks. You are not hired again until school starts and that is not even guaranteed. That means if they don't want you anymore, you don't have a job. In this case, fortunately, we have a shortage of teachers, so it is very likely that you will get your job back at the end of the summer vacations. Teachers are not role models anymore and getting a grip on the students nowadays is an absolute disaster. Teachers are no longer authority figures. Just what I know. PS. I am a Student.
In my school one school hour is 90 minutes. Then we just have a small 20 minute break until the next 90 minutes beging. Then another 20 minute break until the next 90 minutes begin. Then the school day is usually done, but 9th grade and up sometimes have longer school. Then we have an 15 to 45 minutes break (depending on if the teacher wants to start sooner or not). In that break we are not allowed to leave the school property and can't get something to eat if we didn't either bring something or booked something tje day before in the canteen. (And by the way, the canteen food really tastes bad). And also, sorry if there's any misspellings or grammatically wrong stuff, english is obviously not my first language.
Our schools were very well ... oldschool xD u didnt rly need wifi or digitalization honestly but it seems now with covid parents/teachers and the students got in touch with more modernized schooling via tablets/PCs and want to keep it my sisters school rapidly upgrade in the past 2 years because of it now every class gets a iPad and classes get fully digitalized.
yes, some school already got rapidly upgraded, however some others are still totally left behind wiht almost no noticable change. My school for example has no tablets/laptops and a bad internet connection only avaible to teachers.
The Grading system in germany is from Note 1 to 6 which is equal to A to F but in some cases the Notes are written in points: 15 points = 1+ = A+ 14 points = 1 = A 13 points = 1- = A- and so on. In Berlin the elementary school is from 1st to 6th grade.
In the eastern part of Germany we call the Schultüte "Zuckertüte" which means Sugarbag. It was meant to be to put only tons of candy inside. But nowadays kids get different stuff as you might image. :p About that schoolsystem thing: Please dont see it as complicated as that lady in the video does: Simple way for most pupils: Primary school -> 1-4____secondary school -> 5-10, with an option from the 5th grade to go to the gymnasium wich is from 5-12, or from 10th-12th grade. depends on how good you are. Thats it for the most! Almost like it is in the US, but with different grades. But, when you finished Gymnasium (which is like College) you can go to a University and study!
In the Netherlands in primary school, there are usually 3 grades. Good, acceptable, and unacceptable. If you get the low grade too many times the school will contact your parents and arrange tutoring, for a small fee, and try to find out if there is any trouble at home, in which case social services are put into action to resolve those issues.
12:19 Yep, but we are also very paranoid about data privacy. So, if a teacher wants to use whatsapp for communication... that is a problem. Whatsapp is not conform to EU digital privacy laws. Also our politicians are SLOW to adapt digitalisierung.
Okay, I'm sure many people have explained the grading system already, but wanna do it too. There are the six marks (1-6), while six means you almost have nothing, and all other marks can have a + or a -. 1+ is better than 1, and 1- is better than 2+. The point system with up to 15 points is usually just used in the Oberstufe (Last 3 years), and can be transferred to marks (15 points are a 1+, 0 points are a 6)
I'm from Czechia and we had latin in high school and the reasoning behind that is that a lot of high up professions like doctors or lawyers use latin based terminology. Actually, a lot of specilized terms come from latin. So the main reason we had latin was so we had easier time figuring out what these things mean. Plus there was a lot of overlap with history and literature too. We were learning about poetic forms and metric lines in the class too. For people who were Christian it was also helpful for church, but that wasn't really a big reason, because most people here are atheists.
Its also useful for learning other languages. Almost every language in Europe uses a lot of Latin words. German grammar is basically identical to Latin grammar as well. It helped me a lot learning French and I can pick up stuff in Spanish or Italian very easily. Slavic languages are much more difficult for me though.
I can only talk about a public German primary school because I went to a private gymnasium afterwards, but in Baden Württemberg we didn’t have problems with dirty toilets at my primary school. I had friends who went to public secondary schools and there was no big problem with Wi-Fi during the pandemic. Some used Microsoft teams and others used Zoom. I believe this video was filmed somewhere near Bonn. So it’s only indicative to that area and not a generalisation of the other Bundesländer
The woman tells him the truth via video: our vocational school was only renovated because a student secretly filmed a video of rain coming from the ceiling. Everything in the classroom was moldy, technology was junk, toilets were unusable, but the state didn't want to hand out money for the renovation. But when the video came online and everyone could see what the school looked like, they demanded that the video be taken out and started renovating the school, and we were involved in the middle and end of the Corona period. The other problem is school books, for example: almost all books from the 90s are in DM and other inflation numbers! etc. The online conference kept crashing until they switched to Microsoft teams. We were the graduating class and missed a lot of exams.
Every German child loves their Schultüte :) sometimes it’s bought but usually it’s made at home together with the family. For me, we bought the basic cone and then decorated it and so on. Then the parents fill it with little things like sweets or class utensils, without the child knowing what’s inside. They only get it back from their parents on their Einschulung (enrollment) and once they’re sorted into their new class they can open it and discover what’s been put inside. It was really fun to compare with the other children and maybe exchange a few things :)
Basically during elementary school teachers observe the students more and look at your talents. Mostly academically. Kids good at learning and good at math are send to the gymnasium to later go to university to pursue more scientific fields. Like engineering, medicine or higher management. Realschule is more for people that might do good in general office work. And Hauptschule is more for for people who might only be good in craftsmanship or factory work. This is naturally only marginally so. I know enough people that have gone to gymnasium and finished it and then go to do apprenticeships at offices or craftmanships. And it's not like people can't later pursue higher educations. I for example have gone to Realschule at first. I didn't do well there and was send to Hauptschule instead of repeating a year. I had problems outside of school and became lazy. Neither me nor my parents nor my teachers saw this changing by repeating a year. So I graduated in Hauptschule. I personally wanted a job as programmer and wanting to pursue an apprenticeship there. But that meant I need to have graduated at least from Realschule. So I had to go to a school with a special class that had an intensive program to teach everything I missed in Hauptschule and pass the test to get an Realschulabschluss. Then I thought I might be able to even do get my qualifications to get my Abitur and go to university. And so I did. I am now a bachelor of science in computer science. Worked there for like a year. I liked it but at the same time hated it. Now I have my own tailors shop never did any kind of apprenticeship for it everything was learned by myself except for an beginners course to learn how to use a sewing machine. Mostly selling stuff online making double of what I would earn as a bachelor of science while having like 75% of the workload. I'm also in great luck that I live in a city that loves Karneval and help different people to make their costumes for the parade and getting paid for it quite well. And I seriously don't get why not more people are doing that here. Not that I will complain brings more costomers to my door. Not that I want more. I actually can't handle more and already am booked out till next Karneval.
I went from Hauptschule, to Wirtschaftsschule(business from of realschule) and then to the Fachoberschule (Different type of Gymnasium) so that i could go to university to study. In all that time i never had Wifi at school in the mid 2000 to earky 2010 years. The seperation by teachers after elementary school is just bad, if your parents have to saying or dont try to do anything. My parents originaly from turkey, so i have migration background, didnt talk with the teachers at all and i gor placed in Hauptschuleeven tho i think i could have easily went to Realschule or Gymansium and saved like 3-4 years of education to get to that point. Digitalisation is a huge problem in germany because all the "old" people just dont want to change their teachings. I cant remember any of my teachers using a PC in class, expect 1 teacher i had in the last year of my school life who just got a teacher.
3:41 no. In high school you have so called “Notenpunkte” (which translates into “mark/grade points”). Where it goes from 0-15, 15 being the best and 0 obviously the worst. If you get anything below 5 you fail that class. In primary school/ up until high school you have the grades 1-6. For each mark there are these sort of categories. So you have a 1+ which is outstanding… it pretty much doesn’t get any better that that (=100%). Then you have a 1 and a 1- A 2+, 2, 2- ; 3+, 3, 3- and so on. A mark one would be from like 93 or 95%, mark 2 about 75%, mark 3 60%, mark 4 40%, mark 5 20% and anything below that a 6. Three is still considered good enough and 4 is like barely enough, meaning that if you have a 5 or 6 you failed The “Notenpunkte” in high school are basically the equivalent of the grades 1-6. If you have 15, 14 or 13 points you have a mark 1 12,11,10 = mark 2 9,8,7 = mark 3 6,5= mark 4 Anything below 5 points is failed Idk if that makes sense from a non German perspective. It’s pretty easy to understand once you’ve seen how it works…
Prepare yourselves for a long-ass comment (I won’t proofread lol): Here‘s a bit about my school (it’s a Gymnasium): The Years are grouped as follows: Grundschule is Years 1-4, Gymnasium is 5-10 with the oldest years being K1/2. The length of school days varies due to the year you’re in: Year 5s only have until 13:00 o‘clock, every year above gets 2 additional lessons in the afternoon until 15:20 or 3 until 16:20, all of us end at 13:00 on Wednesdays so the teachers can literally have meetings about the classes. School begins at 7:45 (so early!) Instead of buying uniforms, we have to buy not only stationery, but also all our exercise books/folders as well. That’s around 150€ if you buy everything new (so you don’t continue leftovers from the last year)! The school grounds are quite big for a school in Germany. The grounds of the school I went to in England were at least 10-15x as big though. There are multiple buildings, as in 9, all dedicated to a certain area of knowledge: the Main Building (classrooms), the science building, the languages building, the arts building, 2 sports halls and more. There are many after school clubs you can join (if school ends at 13:00 on the correct day for you, otherwise you‘d have to skip lessons to go), but they’re mostly orchestras, choirs or sports clubs. In Year 5, you have English as another language to learn, in Year 6 it’s either French or Latin. If you choose Latin, you can pick between Spanish and French in Year 8, if it’s French you have a choice of Spanish or sciences (Latin is really cool by the way). Competitive sports really aren’t important, sport lessons aren’t either: you either have 90 minutes or 180 minutes a week - so either one or two double lessons. We also just have multi-purpose courts, so we don’t have designated courts for different types of sports. We only get swimming lessons every second week in Year 6 - never again, which is stupid, because swimming is important. We write 2 exams in subjects like Biology, Physics, Chemistry, Geography, Politics (why is that even a subject?!), Economy, History, Religious Studies and sometimes in Music. Im the main subjects Latin, English, German, Maths and Spanish (Maths and the languages you picked) we write 4 - all this excludes (vocabulary) tests. All of it is also marked and counts for the marks you receive in the reports after the end of the first half of the year and at the school year’s end. We don’t have restrictions on homework for the weekend, but from Year 7 onwards we have something called “Aufgabenorientierter Unterricht (AOU). AOU means you practice more exercises during school (which means 5! 'hours' of Maths instead of 4 a week), but we can still get homework today due tomorrow. Haupt- and Realschule are for those are for the less exceptionally clever pupils. Gymnasiums are for the other, 'exceptionally' clever ones. Your teachers after the Grundschule generally 'suggest' the type of school you follow in to after Year 4. Your legal guardians usually chat with you to then see which specific school you wish to go to, then you have to apply. If, at the end of the year, your report is bad enough, you either have to repeat that year or move to a different stream. If your behaviour is bad enough, you’re likely to get kicked from the school entirely, although that does take some awful misbehaving. My school is generally Protestant, but we’re not strickt about religion and pretentious stuff. Until Year 7, you must join chapel services once a week and always have R.S. as a subject. We’re mostly split after our religion, though, so Catholic or Protestant. Some Years in between are mixed. Since August, our digitally well-performing school has been spread across three platforms: one for communication, one for god knows what and the last for a he substitution plan (there’s no other way for translating that 😅). We have a double lesson of I.C.T. in Year 6, though, but it doesn’t usually help much. School toilets are gross everywhere anyway, so let’s leave that topic well alone. From Year 7 onwards, makes and females are separated for sports lessons. The boys get to do cool stuff like rings, whereas we girls are seen as to weak to do this and have to dance instead. I disagree with the boy near 11:50 in that aspect, although the girls are favoured due to behaving better than the boys in most scenarios. Our school grounds are also quite mature friendly. It consists of a small car park (most of the students and teachers come by bike, trams, buses or on foot, few come by car), the buildings, a sports court and a park. (Our Wi-Fi also sucks, but that depends on the school. The 'outside-world-Wi-Fi' is usually fine, though.) The graduation stuff includes a ball, a party and the Abistreich. The graduates then usually stand around near the entrance gate blasting beer into bystanders‘ faces 😒. The end of the school year for other Yeargroups is boring. Nothing happens. It feels like you’re just dismissed for a 6-week-long weekend. It’s plain and unspectacular. In Germany, the consume of alcohol is allowed at: 14 with guidance of a parent/legal guardian, 16 without guidance, 18 (not too strong drinks) Something over 20/21 for string drinks like Vodka. This was a long-ass comment oh my god.
Basically the grading system differentiates in primary/middle school and high school. Primary and middle school have the 1-6 grades where a 1+ is the best and a 6 is the worst grade. The whole thing goes like (from best to worst): 1+ 1 1- 2+ 2 2- 3+ 3 3- 4+ 4 4- 5+ 5 5- 6 The + and - are there to give the grades more nuance and because a 6 means that you failed there isn’t any + or -. If you count all of the numbers above there are 16 different grades and because it isn’t really practical to find out somebody average with all the pluses and minuses there is the so called point system that ranges from 0 to 15. Like I said it is used to simplify the whole process of defining a final grade at the end of ones school career. So: 1+ = 15 1 = 14 1- = 13 And so on… A 6 equally then 0 points… That is the basic principle of the grading system. Don’t ask me why it’s so over complicated but it’s just how it’s handled… Thank you for listening to my ted talk
Kids cant choose which school they want to go to! If youre a „bad“ student you have to go to the Hauptschule. If youre a „ok“ student you can go to the Realschule. And the Gymnasium is for the „best“ students I dont like this system but im not the Gouvernment🫡🤣
no, in 4th grade you take a exam to "proof" you are ready for middle/high school ect. when you have like too low points you may gotta repeat the year at primary school, if you have a certain level of points you can only visit "Hauptschule" or only "Hauptschule" and Realschule", if you have full points or are good enough (told by grades) you can go to the gymnasium (smth kinda similar like normal american middle/highschool). "gymnasium" has the highest graduation and you can study with that. if you visit "haupt/realschule" you first have to do a Gymnasium graduation thing to go to university, so you can really choose, and also not based on what you want to do in your future...
The Homeworkrestriction are just when you have a lesson on friday, you do not may get Homework till monday 🙃 And you do not choose berween Hauptschule, Realschule and Gymnasium, you get an an recommendation were to go, that depends on how good you are.
The austrian school system is basically an easy version of the german one! We only have Volkschule (Grundschule) and then hauptschule and gymnasium. We also have Waldorf schools. I mean we obviously also have universities and HTL's. (HTL's are a school, that can be entered after the 8th grade) Also homeschooling is allowed here
The "regular school day" from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. she describes here is supposed to be a "regular school day" in primary school. In middle and high school, of course school days are longer.
3:42 No, in German it's 1 to 6 (1 is the best and 6 the worst), but this girl from the video comes from the UK, where the best grade is 15/15, which is like a 1+ in Germany. So, extremely good. That's, what she meant. To keep it German, we got: 1+, 1, 1-, 2+, 2, 2-, 3+, 3, 3-, 4+, 4, 4-, 5+, 5, 5-, 6. So to translate it to your US-system, it's: 1 like A, 2 like B, 3 like C, 4 like D, 5 like E & 6 like F.
"Cause they can drink beer at 18 or what?"
NO, that would be ridiculous! Of course they can drink beer when they are 16
16 ? WHy so late ?
14 with a parent ;)
I remember when I was in the US I was a officer cadet and wen my follow see man and I went to an bar they asked us for our ID strange what did they thing about a group of man with identical clothes we are children
I am Danish, 42. Alcohol and tobacco restrictions came in when I was already an adult. All my life, I could go and buy a bottle of vodka and a carton of cigerettes since the earliest of my childhood.
I had my first beer with 12 , no big deal.
As a German I can say that you definitely get homework on weekends 😄😅Schools that don't give you homework are special schools
It was soooo funny to watch this video and the reactions😂😂😂
I totally agree with you. Our teacher gives us especially over weekends homework.
for me it was forbidden till grade 6, after that we’ll get as much homework as they can find
Ich weiß nicht warum ich dieses video geschaut habe..., ich weiß nicht warum ich die kommentare lese..., aber ich weiß du hast Recht
Yup, lots of homework on the weekend. I know a bunch of people who spend up to 15 hours on homework for weekends. Sometimes I heard stories from others who had only those homework-loving teachers, that they got homework due to the next day that would require like 10 hours of work to get done (just done, not well done). But that combined with going to school until 5 pm on most days is just impossible.
(That statement in the video that school is from 8am to 1pm applies maaaaaybe to primery school... that's it. The rest has from 7/8 am to 4/5 pm! )
They should fact check some parts in the vid, cuz some are just wrong information right here.
Ist aber eigentlich so nicht wirklich erlaubt. Es gibt klare Regeln, wie viel Zeit Hausaufgaben in Anspruch nehmen dürfen und es gibt auch klare Regeln, wann Kinder z.B. darauf verzichten dürfen. Problem ist, dass der Stoff, den Lehrer vermitteln sollen, so umfangreich ist, dass es vorne und hinten nicht mehr ausreicht. Da kollidieren Vorgabe und Schultstoff. Theoretisch müsstest Du am Wochenende keine Hausaufgaben machen, weil die Lehrer gar nicht so viel aufgeben dürfen. Machen sie aber, weil ihnen nix anderes übrig bleibt. ^^‘
The "Schultüte" is a present from the family. I handcrafted (with help) my Schultüte at the kindergarden and my parents filled it with sweets, pencils and such things. I still have mine. :D
I still have mine too and I'm already 19 years old xD
It hasn't been always like this. Originally it was invented in 19th century in Saxony and was a gift from a friendly headmaster to his pupils. Pointed paper bags (standard grocery packaging at the time) containing sweets and pastries were hung from a tree in the school yard and the newcomers were allowed to take one. That's one story.
The other story, also connected to Saxony, says that the custom of the Zuckertüte goes back to the school reforms by Martin Luther and Philipp Melanchthon.
Both were irritated by the humiliations children endured at school. So they got rid of the penitentiary hat (also called donkey hat, the pointet hat the KKK or Spanish penitents in processions use) that children had to wear as a punishment. Teachers had to learn to be merciful as God is merciful.
As a result, the custom arose that on the first day of school (usually after Michaelmas) the donkey hat in school got filled with sweet cakes and cookies for the new pupils.
In other regions you get a sweet pretzel (e.g. me in Hesse, a Brioche kind pretzel), which was supposed to symbolize the path of life or the letter B as next step after A. In later interpretations some people said, its the infinity sign, for infinite knowledge (or infinite stupidity).
I threw it away when we moved in 2nd grade
So the sweets aren`t that fresh anymore. LOL
I got 2 and lost both. And I‘m just 16.
the time span in which you are in school actually differs from the grade you are in. 1-4 or 6 grade usually is around 8am-1pm as mentioned in the video but the older you get the more lessons you will have and the longer your days will be. i was in a gymnasium where my longest day was in 11th and 12th grade which was from 7:20am-4pm (with one free period). so as i said, it varies depending on your grade.
My longest (11th and 12th grade) is 7.50am - 5.50pm with 45 min break🥲
You just had lessons til around 4?? Oha du guter…Im in the 8th grade and have lessons til 4 and a the big brother from my friend is in the tenth and has lessons til 4:30 pm🥲
In Netherlands gymnasium was from 8:30 to 3:20 or 4:10 at the latest. And we had like 15 different subjects, with gaps in the schedule that you could use to do homework.
I remember in year 4, out of 6, I had like 25 hours a week of classes and barely needed to do any homework, the workload was very light, although some of my thicker classmates did complain.
If you're wondering why in German a "Gymnasium" is a school that is meant to prepare you for university and in english it's a place where you work out:
"Gymnasium" comes from the Greek word γυμνάσιον (Gymnásion), which was a place where young men trained both their bodies _and_ minds. English and German ended up focussing on different aspects of that.
they also trained there naked lol
Its good to know about Ancient Greek, isnt it?
nerd. but respect the effort lol
In Czechia, gymnasiums are also schools that prep students for university.
@@slouberiee Yeah, also usually of better quality than the specialised schools. The students are usually better prepared for the universities but if they do not intend to continue studying, then they are as good as without the high school.
Fun story about Latin: My cousin, who'd only ever learned Latin at school but not a single word of Italian, chose to go with the group that went to Italy for their graduation trip. He got on totally fine with Latin (cos Latin and Italian are so closely related). Also, you might have an easier time learning other Romanic languages (like French or Spanish) when you already know Latin because you can guess the meaning of a lot of words simply from knowing the Latin word.
Another fun story: I never learned Latin in school but in my later job training in a medical job I could guess a lot of the words from having learned French. :D
Latin is useful for all romance languages. Greek is obviously useful in Greece. Went there on a work trip for a weekend a few years ago and I was the only person who could read the signs on shops.
Its also fun being able to understand the etymology of a lot of Latin origin words in English, Dutch, German and many other languages that arent romance language group, on top of it being easier to learn French or Spanish for example.
Hey man!
Here is a short comparison of the grades you didn't get.
Basically the grades go from 1 to 6 (first place is always the best, so having 1 as the best isn't that awkward from this perspective...), all marks (except the 6) can have a + or a - for slight tendencies, making 1+ the best and 6 the worst mark.
Now you write down all marks from 1+ to 6 and count down from 15. Every mark gets a definitive number in the last 3 classes of school for the "Abitur" (some things can be said about this but it basically allows you to attend University), this makes it easier to calculate grades, averages, and points for your qualification and so on.
It's basically for making things more transparent but I get your confusion: the shift between two systems is irritating.
classes 1-10: classes 11-13:
1+ 15
1 14
1- 13
2+ 12
2 11
2- 10
3+ 9
3 8
3- 7
4+ 6
4 5
4- 4
5+ 3
5 2
5- 1
6 0
As addition.
The 15 point system is when you are on a "Gymnasium" (nothing to do with sports) which is a school that gives you the degree allowing you to study on a college or university.
For your degree, a certain amount of points from your classes and exams will be added and this will bhe trasnfered into the grade.
For example: 609 points from at least 280 and a maximum of 840 points.
The grade is 2.0 which is actually better than in the US. 2.0 would be a B but 609 of 840 are 72% which would be a C in the US.
@@helloweener2007 The Gymnasium grade system is also used in the Fachoberschule.
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Yes, you are right. But you get also a degree that allows you to study.
yeah and there also is a average calculated from those grades
I have been to Gymnasium and never questioned or even thought about this system. But hell it is stupid, why do we do it like that? Do we not trust people before 11th grade to be able to count to 15? And also since as you showed one system perfectly matches the other, why even bother to switch at all.
There are no restrictions for homework on the weekend. Probably in the „Grundschule“ thats like the first four years of school in Germany
The 3 tier system made sense when it was introduced in the late 19th century because you needed workers and craftsmen (Hauptschule). You also needed clerks, administrative employees, secretetaries, etc (Realschule) and finally you need lawyers, doctors, scientists and other academics (Gymnasium).
Now you don't need them anymore ?
@@lame7560 of cause we do, however there have been studies showing that putting together children with higher and lower affinity for learning enhances the learning effekt. Thats at least one of the many reasons I know of.
@@lame7560 They are still needed, the problem is that this system causes people to be restricted into what they can become later in life. It's around age 11/12 that it's decided for kids if they go to the Hauptschule, Realschule or Gymnasium and only a small number of people knows at that age what they want to do later in life. Yet when they become old enough to enter the job market, the kind of school they went to literally dictates what kind of apprenticeship positions are open to them. There are ways to still get into higher education on a secondary path, but it sucks and requires you to do extra years of school. They should just get rid of this system and not railroad people intro professions when they are 11 years old.
@@roberthartburg266 The problem is that Hauptschule and even Realschule are seen as "lesser Schools" and since any parent would want for their child to be successful one day, the Gymnasium is the way to go
And while the Gymnasium is very good at giving you a taste of what higher education feels like, the Hauptschule doesnt focus enough on practical stuff that you would actually want to teach them, just like you learn a secondary language in Gymnasium, the Hauptschule should offer courses for mechanics, craftsmen, whatever, teach them the stuff you´d teach them in the first year of being an actual trainee in the field
Instead the Hauptschule is just a worse Realschule, and thus basically just frowned upon
@@Savaris96 That would be stupid, because you learn this in your vocational training and also woodworkers need to do basic math
A Schultüte ("school cone"), also known as a Zuckertüte ("sugar cone") in some parts of Germany, is a large cone-shaped, cornucopia-styled container made of paper, cardboard, or plastic. and the children get that from their parents.
"Why would you want to learn Latin"
Thats a great question and the answer is pretty easy. Latin is, for the most part, exclusively offered in schools that are geared towards higher education. The thing is: biological and especially medical terminology contains a LOT of Latin. If you want to study medicine in Germany, apart from needing an exceptional GPA, you either have to have had Latin in school OR take a mandatory Latin course additionally to your already very demanding course schedule.
At least this was still true a decade ago.
But in the end these are all bad reasons.
Actually more words in medicine are greek. :D And it won't help a lot that you had to study all the grammar. You could just study the words.
I personally would say Latin is good to learn something about grammar and even improving the german grammar, because you study all the concepts and have to translate it into long german sentences. I also think it just trains the brain, a littlebit like logic. (But they could simply teach logic. Or programing, which nowadays would be better. Or other languages, too.)
I like(d) Latin, but it doesn't make much sense to study it, unless you have fun to do so.
I had Latin in school and I really struggled with it, even had to repeat a class because of Latin. However, later when I studied french and spanish it made things sooo much easier for me because both languages are rooted heavily in latin
You also need to know latin if you decide to study languages or history...history for obvious reasons, languages because Latin is the base for a lot of European languages. Granted, you can do the necessary courses once you are in university, but, as you pointed out, that means that you have an extra-workload.
That's not the real reason tbh. Latin courses aren't actually about the language. It offers A LOT of history to learn that you often just gloss over in history classes (greek/roman period), and Latin in school is basically nothing more than really hard puzzle solving which really strengthens your brain and your ability to learn how languages are constructed. If you understand Latin and memorize much of it, you are basically given a headstart onto learning basically every other European language, it makes it a LOT easier and you can realize how much all European languages boil down to stemming from Latin.
I'm sad that Latin as a school subject is dying out. It's so much more helpful than Spanish or French where 99% of students don't learn anything at all either besides saying Hello or "My name is X".
@@DonDadda45 So, let’s say it is easier to learn French after having learned Latin. But wouldn’t your French be even better if you had invested all that time and effort spend on Latin directly on French? And once you know one ‘Latin language’, wouldn’t that give you a similar advantage in learning another ‘Latin language’? And you’d end up with knowing two living ‘Latin languages’ instead of just one.
One point I'd like to add, you can always decide to get your Abitur, no matter which form of school you previosuly visited. I know plenty of people who came from Real- and even sometimes Hauptschule to attend the grades 10-12 and get their Abitur at my Gymnasium. It's just a little harder because in Gymnasium you're specifically educated to pass the Abitur, while other school forms don't have to fulfill that need
Age doesn't matter here either. My mother took her second go when she was 28 and told me about a 39 years old woman in her year that had two daughters that bith had their Abitur already, thus creating some funny scenes. The daughter once handed her mother her lunch, for example. The mother was laughing and told the story to the whole Kollege.
Well everybody who changed with best marks like almost 1 in everything from Realschule totally failed with worst marks of 5-6 after first Semester because we had much more stuff to learn and even more "Unterichtsfaecher". Maybe they could try in public gym with less to learn.
When they say "toilet" they don't mean the actual bowl (although I'm sure they are old, too) but the "restroom" or "bathroom" in general.
Usually they are pretty run down with broken tiles, old stained faucet - and are being cleaned just once per day, so you can imagine how they look after a couple of hours. Gross.
Nothing the school janitor can fix. They are in desperate need of renovation!
"How do the kids get all these rights?" We give the rights to them so they can develop into happy adults, used to and trained in thinking for themselves.
And yet people in Germany are not any happier than people from third world countries
Aber wieso erzieht man Kinder dazu, selbstständig zu denken und zu handeln, wenn sie es dann sowieso nicht mehr dürfen, sofern sie "das Falsche" denken?
Dazu passt gut das Sprichwort: "Ich habe nicht laufen gelernt, um dann zu kriechen."
@@josefineseyfarth6236 Beispiel?
@@dansattah M/W/D?
@@se7enhaender Worauf läuft das hinaus?
Dass es mehr Geschlechter und Beziehungen als männlich, weiblich und hetero gibt, ist doch inzwischen bewiesen bzw. wahrscheinlicher als die Gegenthese.
I remember that the school toilet was a meeting spot for "Cool kids" who used to hang out there and smoke cigarettes (though they were forbidden). If you needed to pee, you either kept it inside until you could go home, or prepared yourself for a lot of laughter or stench.
Until a teacher found out of course 😅
That was back in the 90s, I dunno how things have changed since then.
the internet problem is not just schools its everywhere, germany has by quite a margin the worste internet infrastructure in europe
Thanks to Kohl. ;)
And others..
So true! I live in an eastern European country (which is seen under-developed most of the time) and despite where I travel to I´ll have perfect mobile connection, perfect online services, we had no issues during covid lock-down homeschooling...It´s insane how Germany is behind this digitalization stuff! Sometimes I´m literally nowhere in the woods and have full LTE+ but when I arrive in Germany I can bet that if I had to take the train/ drive through more rural areas my cell will be useless until I hit a city again...
@@kathawenzel8033 Yeah funny but not true though. I have full LTE deep within the thuringian mountainranges deep in the woods. So do not make stuff up oh and the trains usally have Wi-Fi.
@@kathawenzel8033 in south germany where I’m from there is LTE everywhere and most 50k+ city’s have 5G and more and more small city’s also have 5G…
Hey, the tripartite school system almost doesn't exist anymore, almost only in Bavaria. We now mostly have a two-tier system of elementary school and "community school (Gemeinschaftsschule)" or "high school (Gymnasium)." The community school replaces the "Realschule" and "Hauptschule".
"How you get those restricions in? Are the kids voting?" Kids in Germany are not voting, but they certainly have rights to get their opinion heard and to get involved in their schools affairs. In most schools there is a "Klassensprecher" elected in every class" - A child voted for by the majority of children, who can voice ideas and complaints of students to the teachers. There also is a "Schülervertretung - SV" elected by all students of the school, whom the headmaster and the teachers will invite to talks about things concerning the students and who will be listened to, if they propose change in school (like a Mensa/Cafeteria for the school). Sometimes this system works very well, sometimes not...
Germany signed something called the "UN Convention on the Rights of the Child" an international contract signed by almost every country in the world - except the USA... This contract has to be reflected in German law and government. That is why children in Germany have a right to playtime: Article 31 "All children have a right to relax and play, and to join in a wide range of activities." In order to achieve this: No homework on weekends. And yes, children are asked their opinions and are given opportunities to lobby for their interests: Article 12: "Children have the right to say what they think should happen, when adults are making decisions that affect them, and to have their opinions taken into account."
I think that is the difference between European Boomers and American Boomers.
Homework fre weekends not in saxony bro always homework
Jesus Christ, are all Germans lawyers? 😂
@@mrac.. No, but we know our basic rights (Grundrechte), in 7th grade every child gets a Grundgesetz book, with basic human rights in it, and we learn about it in politics.
Later, during Abitur/ A-levels you have social/political/economical science and there you learn everything about Europe, the political system, world wide politics compared to ours, etc.
But in all honesty, most Germans want to know their rights, in order to stand up for yourself and to make fun of our lobbyism and bureaucracy. 😂
@@annaluciaschmitz what the hell? We didn't get the Grundgesetz! Maybe because of covid, we don't have a formelsammlung because of that either, but still! I want one too! And yes, I know that every citizen has the right to get one for free but im too lazy to do that!
I remeber in my german elementary school years - a boy broke the window in the restrooms and they covered it with cardboard cuz they couldn't afford to fix it. And years later in 9-10th grade ppl would always vandalize the toilets ,the janitor stopped doing anything ..soooo no more toilets.
1:30 No, that's completely atypical actually. Only a few schools do that, the vast majority does not. There is no need for a lunch period because the kids will usually be at home for lunch.
3:30 This system is only used in the 11th to 13th grade at Gymnasiums. 15 equals 1+, 14 equals 1, 13 equals 1-, 12 equals 2+ etc all the way down to 0 which equals a 6. To pass a test you need at least 5 points (which equals a 4).
4:50 Latin is still an important language today because it is still used in many scientific fields, including but not limited to medicine and biology for example. And it is of course super important for everyone who studies anything related to European history, especially when speaking of antiquity or the middle ages.
7:10 Not exactly. Not every kid can keep up with the speed and amount of lessons that are required for Gymnasium - and instead of having to square the circle and try to bring kids up to speed that can't learn as quickly as some others while at the same time not slowing down the kids that have an easier time learning stuff we have different types of schools taking care of that problem. It's also not excluding people who went to a Realschule or Hauptschule to get an Abitur afterwards - there's awveral ways to do for people who want that, even as an adult. It's hard and a lot of work, however even someone who got a Hauptschulabschluss has the chance to make Abitur and go to university eventually. It should be mentioned though that unlike the USA we highly value jobs that do not require a university degree, and a lot of craftsman jobs on average are well payed.
8:50 The teachers are the ones who can evaluate how the individual students keep up and how easily they learn. A child that has problems learning things like math or struggles with languages will usually not be able to keep up with the pace of learning at a Gymnasium. A friend of mine from elementary school was recommended for Realschule however his parents decided to send him to the Gymnasium....and he wasn't able to keep up and failed miserably. His grades where so bad that he would have had to repeat the year. The parents then decided to take him out of Gymnasium and send him to a Realschule instead and within the next year his grades where way better - he was in fact one of the best of his class at the Realschule. However failing at the Gymnasium did send him to a bad mental state for a while until the good grades at the Realschule started rolling in.
The decision to which school a kid should go should be done with the best interests of the kid in mind, not to flatter the ego of the parents.
13:25 Beer and wine at 16, hard liquor at 18.
It's only "atypical" in the old/western states. In eastern Germany, school canteens are the norm because far more women work full time (part of the GDR "heritage").
I remember that in East Germany there were always school canteens with about 3 different dishes. In the previous week, there was a meal plan for the coming week and parents could buy meal tickets for the respective dish (chosen by the pupil / student) of the respective weekday in the following week.
@@Nils.Minimalist It's still pretty similar, at least as far as I can tell from myown experience (went to school 2002-2014). The only difference was that the meal tickets started to be ordered online after a few years and that they were replaced by electronic cards in the early 2010s.
Beer and wine with 16 not 15, 14 if you are with your parents
Here in Schleswig-Holstein we have "Gemeinschaftsschulen" in which you can get the ESA (Hauptschulabschluss), MSA (Realschulabschluss) and the Abitur.
In grade 9 you can write the ESA, but only those students whose teachers are unsure if they are smart enough for the MSA. After this some stay on the same school (if the marks are good enough) and try to get the MSA and others do an apprenticeship. The same is with the MSA, just a year later. For the Abitur you leave school after 13 years.
(I hope this all makes sense in the way i wrote it down. If not, i'm sorry.)
I think this system is better than seperating the children after primaryschool, cause some might not seem to be the smartest when they are 10 years old, but when they get older. Also the better students often help the ones that aren't that good.
But this is just my opinion based of my own experience.
I hope it isn't to confusing and you can understand my english.
The cones are filled by the parents usually, in some occasions they might be filles by the grandparents or aunts and uncles or so
3:20 Until 10th grade, the 1 - 6 grading system is in place, where 1 is the best grade and 6 is the worst. Sometimes, the teacher will add a + or - to indicate, if it was a close call for a better or worse grade and indicate tendency of your performance. These tendencies don't show up on your report card, though and are purely for your personal information on your performance, though. From 11th grade on to your graduation, the tendencies actually do count and the system therefore changes. You now get 0 to 15 points instead of grades with 15 being the best result, equivalent to a 1+:
15 = 1+
14 = 1
13 = 1-
12 = 2+
11 = 2
10 = 2-
9 = 3+
8 = 3
7 = 3-
6 = 4+
5 = 4
4 = 4-
3 = 5+
2 = 5
1 = 5-
0 = 6
10th class? in saarland I had the 00-15 grading system since I was in the 5th class
@@jultuiTheRapGoat Saarland halt
thanks for the explenation, i live in germany but i never heard of this system, because i stopped after 10th grade, sounds interesting but nothing i would want to deal with XD
We had a school where the architects had the grandiose idea of not drawing up the walls of the bathroom buildings (yes, they were in an extra "house" outside the main building) to the ceiling so that any stink could immediately disappear (the intention, presumably). That also meant that it would be icy cold in winter in those bathrooms and that anyone outside could hear what was going on inside plus the boys would throw little rocks and stuff inside. Also, another stupid feature: you had to estimate the amount of toilet paper you'd need beforehand and rip it off before going into the bathroom stall... luckily, we knew where the teacher's toilets were and they were not always locked... and you betcha those were clean.
I did 5 years of Latin in school as well. Helps a lot when learning other languages and grammar.
Helps a lot with the German language and its grammar, too. I hated it in school - but apart from maths it is probably the subject that has helped me in many cases since then. Not just with quiz shows...
Latin needs a lot discipline and organization to learn - abilities that really help you elsewhen, too.
@@geneviere199 Yeah I remember realising that we use Akkusativ for directions and Dativ for locations as well aand being comoletely blown away haha
@@francis7336 what?! Could you give an example?
Ich biege rechts ab (Adverbiale Bestimmung des Ortes ig)
But how would that fit with wen?
@@francis7336 what?! Could you give an example?
Ich biege rechts ab (Adverbiale Bestimmung des Ortes ig)
But how would that fit with wen?
"gross toilets" is a funny way to describe those junkyards of bathrooms some schools have. In most schools (at least from what I've seen in my 18 years of life in Germany) the toilets are tolerable, like generally clean, sure, there is a good chance you will get some infection because of the condition they're in, but it's generally okay to use them. Now those where the normal toilets but there are actually schools, where the cabin toilets (I guess they are called so in english) have walls or doors with giant holes in them, there is legitimate shit on the ceiling somewhere and 3 out of 4 walls have mould on them. Also it can sometimes happen that there is no water in the bathroom to wash your hands and when it's there, it's honestly questionable to use the water because it's not that unlikely you will actually end up with some serious infection if you do. I think that sums up the German toilet situation in schools at least for the hygiene part.
Also another thing: Everything that has to do with the digitally connecting stuff and the internet in general in some way or another is a complete disaster here in Germany. The standard internet speed of a house, which is not located in a city is about 16 Mbps per contract, in realty it's more like 6-8 Mbps.
Ooooh, digitalisation is a huuuuge issue in Germany. Some 30 or so years ago we *almost* got a complete overhaul with fiber optic cables, as a country, but last minute, politicians decided to just overclock the shit out of our copper cables. It's terribly slow at peak hours and often breaks down. I live literally in the centre of a city of 300k people and I'm sending this out via copper cables.
Modernisation is expensive and the German government is legally bound (by our constitution) not to go into a lot of debt, so try to invest in the future with that and with parties that refuse to increase taxes on the wealthy (despite what the ill-informed might claim, Germany has medium to low taxes compared to similar countries).
"Ooooh, digitalisation is a huuuuge issue in Germany. Some 30 or so years ago we almost got a complete overhaul with fiber optic cables, as a country, but last minute, politicians decided to just overclock the shit out of our copper cables"
nope, only one....helmuth kohl.....was a good friend of kirch...they made a deal about crappy copper cables and private tv....
@@Xoiskin1969X Yes. 👍
Also the limitation of debt led to the strange situation that 3G, 4G and 5G frequencies were auctioned to the telcos like Telekom, Vodafone or Telefonica. The government earned billions of Euros each time. This would have been acceptable if that money had been spent for digital infrastructure. But they put it to the general budget and the telcos had much less money to invest in order to establish an appropriate infrastructure including fiber connectivity. I live in a big city (500.000 residents) but still running on 16 Mbit copper. Situation has become even worse due to EU consumer protection laws two years ago: If the speed is lower than your contract promises you now have to get a refund from your provider. But the telcos did not speed up their lines, they downgraded the contracts and limited the bandwidth to a quality the could achieve. My contract was downgraded from 50 to 16 Mbit and the actual data speed went down from approx. 40 to 20 Mbit. Thank you, consumer protectors!
@@Xoiskin1969X As Kohl wasnt kicked for that corruption it means the whole party is guilty as well.
In my school we have a more or less stable internet connection and we're using iPads (which we had to buy ourselves if we don't want to use paper)
At home we have like a 50k download connection (100k contract 🥲)
Honestly, it the example school seems to be in city in West Germany, in some schools in small towns in east germany still didn't have electric whiteboards. And I was very surprised during my internship at my former Gymnasium that the seniors were allowed to used tablets in class (they're only 4 years younger than me!). We weren't even allowed to use our phones during brakes!
For the digital stuff: germany has a massive lack on general digitalization for different reasons. In school, one of the reasons is data privacy. "Datenschutz" is very high valued in Germany, for good and not really good. Great debates since decades. The other reason is simpel: money. The schoolsystem had big shortages for a long time. Coming to the toilets, a lot of schools are old buildings, often there are toilets from the 1980s still at work, so it stinks not because it is not clean, but because something is broken. But yes, sometimes it is not clean enough, because the cleaning workers have not enough time and time is money. All the buildings issues are very expensive and also full of, well, a lot of laws and paperwork. The building belong to the town/community, somehow public. Which means, a school can not just call someone to fix it, because of the danger of potential corruption. Big story. In one school I know, parents volunteer to fix the toiletproblem, but were not allowed to. This also is Germany.
For different types of schools in Germany, the times are varying. I’m in “Gymnasium” and many school days for me go from 7:50am to 4pm. I get home at 5pm… (my longest day, my shortest is til 1pm and that’s Fridays 😏)
In Grade school, I went from 8:10am to 1pm every day.
concerning the grades here: Generally speaking, the system of 1 (best) to 6 (worst) is common from school years 1-10ish. These grades individually get split in three categories. So for example: you can get a 1-, a 1 or a 1+ on your test. 1- is still the best grade possible, but the "-" says that within the best possible grade you fall under the lowest category/got the lowest amount of points. If you get slightly more points your grade goes up from 1- to 1 and if you get even more points it rises rom a 1 to a 1+.
After school year 10, the system is "replaced" with the 1-15 point-system with 1 being the lowest and 15 being the highest. This switch was confusing for me at the start aswell. This is done to better differenciate the perfomances of the pupils . For example: 15 points is the optimum amount of points you can get, which equals the 1+ of the system above mentioned. 14 points would be equal to a 1 and 13 points equal to a 1-.
the main differences between these two systems are that for the first system you will only see the 1-6 without the "+" or "-" on your report card whereas with the other system you see the points that are the equivalent of the "+" and "-". Basically, you can only see how good your 1 really was on your report card, when the second system is used.
Typisch deutsch 😂 hauptsache kompliziert
report card is what the dictionary said "Zeugnis" means in american english^^
No, that's wrong. 1- isn't the best grade, 1 is the best. There is no 1+ in this system.
In Elementary and Secondary I (grades 5 to 9/10) School the best grade is 1 the worst 6. You count 1 (=A in US), 1-, 2+, 2 (=B), 2-, 3+, 3 (=C), 3-, 4+, 4 (=D), 4-, 5+, 5 (=F), 5-, 6+, 6.
In Secondary II (grades 10/11-13) the best grade is 15 and the worst 0. You count 15 (=1+ / 100-96%), 14 (=1 / 95-91%), 13 (=1- / 90-86%), 12 (= 2+ / 85-81%) ...
The percentage is not generally fixed, but varies from state to state, or even from school to school.
@@Frohds14 No, i meant that 1 is still the best grade possible, no matter if you have a "-" or a "+" behind it. I referred to the number not the specific grade of 1-. Also a 1+ absolutely exists. Had some friends who got this grade in school. In our state of NRW the grade 6+ did not exist. Here we were told that there is only a 6, because if you get that grade you failed completely and it would be irrelevant to differanciate between a 6+ and a 6. But this of course might vary between states in germany
@@G-o-R-i-ll-a-Z Was bitte ist daran kompliziert? Ist A-F, wie in den USA, einfacher? Die Schweiz zählt umgekehrt zu uns von 6-1, auch da ist die 4 die unterste Bestehensnote. Ist das weniger kompliziert? Oder etwa das dänische Notensystem, das von -3 bis 12 Punkte geht, allerdings nicht gezählt, sondern es gibt nur die Noten 12 (bei Harry Potter wäre das "Ohne Gleichen"), 10, 7, 4, 02, 00 (ein Schelm wer Böses dabei denkt) und -3 (bei Harry Potter wäre das "Troll"). Bis 2007 war das Notensystem in Dänemark noch merkwürdiger. Da gab es als beste Note die Note 13, die aber nicht vergeben werden durfte.
The students don't get to choose wether they will go to a Hauptschule, Realschule or Gymnasium. The teachers decide.
However, if you're not happy with the school you were sent to, you can pursue a higher education after graduation.
If you were in a Hauptschule, then you can take an Apprentice Ship to get the Realschulabschluss. After that, you can pursue an other apprentice ship. Or do what students who aren't happy with the Realschule can do.
If you were in the Realschule, but you really want your Abitur, then you csn go to the.FOS (Fachoberschule) to get your Fachabitur. This can be an Abitur for technology, an Abitur for economics, or an Abitur for a different field. If you want a general Abitur, you will have to finish an apprentice ship, and go to the BOS (Berufsoberschule) to get the general Abitur.
If you were from the Hauptschule and got your Realschulabschluss through an Apprentice Ship, then you can go straight to the BOS to get your general Abitur.
I have had an apprentice ship in warehousing. And I am not happy with my profession. In September, I will.attend the BOS, get my Abitur, and go study Civil Engineering, because I have a passion for building.
Wi-Fi wasnt needed at the most schools before covid because they hadn't subjects that needed smartphones, Computers etc. So when Covid came around they had a very big problem and couldn't upgrade a whole school that fast.
The same goes for online sites where kids gould put or geht homework etc. They just werent needes before all that.
Why are school toilets so gross or why is the playground so old? Mostly because the schools dont get the money from the state to upgrade/renovate. I remember that our School Toilets looked like they were from the 70s. and yeah the most time they didnt even work.
At my school mobile phones were even forbidden to use within the building. There was simply no need for W-Lan in the school. The only place that had internet available for the students was the library if you borrowed one of the laptops or the computers in the informatics classrooms.
@@simsch97 yes phones being forbidden is really common. Our teachers allowed it later but of course not in class
You don't get a meal provided at schools in Australia unless you go to private schools. You take your own lunch from home to eat school. When I went to high school the grading system went from 1-7 with a 7 being the best. In primary school it was A-F with A being best.
when it comes to digitalisation, germany is very much still stuck in the late 90s, early 2000s. We rank amongst the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to access to the internet in europe, even behind states like Romania, and also when it comes to internet speed nationwide. Areas with zero internet access or signal are still quite common here and occurr even within big cities.
So yeah, internet access and digitalisation not a strong suite of us.
real quote from our FORMER minister of education: "Man braucht Internet nicht an jeder Milchkanne", which translated means roughly "No one needs access to the internet at every farm/rural area". I think that sums this up perfectly^^
Even behind states like Romania? Why "even"?
Honestly, I am coming from another (even poorer) Balkan country and now living in Germany, and in my country we have much better and more affordable internet, more digitalised services, possibility to make a doctor appointment via the cellphone app in 20 seconds, more functional and faster bureaucracy. I won't even go to the topic of other services not related to digitalisation, such as getting an electrician or plumber...
another reason is that Germany privatized the phone/internet networks and therefore the company will only expand the networks, if the population in the area would bring in enough money. So, in rural areas expansion costs a lot of money but the company will not make all the money back. These areas then get skipped, obviously.
No, Germany is pretty much in the middle but it's getting better pretty fast
@@withoutshadowww I'm working for an internet service provider in Germany. I once had a customer from Bulgaria on the phone. He told me, that his mother, living in a 50.000 inhabitants small town owns a Gigabit connection for 25 EUR/month. All I could offer him was a crappy 16 Mbit/s connection for 35 EUR/ month - and I even couldn't guarantee the 16 Mbit/s at all! This example shows perfectly how much Germany has lost touch with other EU countries when it comes to broadband expansion.
good thing ❤
At my highschool in Europe, no one ate at the cafeteria/ at school. We would get 60 minutes lunch break and everyone just wondered off to get lunch at the restaurants and cafes or snackbars in town. There was a cantina at school, but only some teachers really went there
So, there's this thing called the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child wich came in force in 1990. It is one of the most supported conventions of the UN. Only one UN member has not ratified it. The USA.
The UNCRC is a human rights treaty that is all about the civil, political, economic, social, health and cultural rights of children. Added on were optional protocols concerning children involved in military conflicts and one that prohibits the sale, prostitution or pornography of children.
Thanks I did not know that (already finished university and having no kids). That explains why the following students knew so much less than we did.
At my old middle school some of the toilets wasn't even attached to the wall... or someone tried to set the toilet on fire. And my school had like 300 kids, 10 teachers and no janitor. So I only had up to 4 hour in school (because of the lack of teachers)😅😆. I once had NO school for 3 month.
Be aware this video, really simplified the school system, so the basics are covered for all federal states. The complications start after that.
I haven't seen a comment on the part of the "Förderschule" , so I'll try my best to give you a better insight to it.
Yes, the start of this school wasn't very good and had/sometimes still has a bad reputation. On the other hand, special schools for blind or deaf people fall aswell under this kind of school, as they need special tools and lessons (e.g. braille for the blind). The curriculum there is more that of a "Gesamtschule" (= all school types - "Haupt/Mittel"-school, "Real/Wirtschafts"-schule and "Gymnasium" under one roof). My neighbor's son was deaf, graduated with his "Abitur" and went on to study for Bio-engineer ...
The main part of all the pupils in the "Förderschule", however, are mentally and/or bodily disabled children, who couldn't fit into the "normal" schoolsystem, due to e.g. access to the classroom on the second floor because there is no elevator (mainly in very old school buildings, but those still exist 🤷♀️) or due to not having enough teachers, who can accommodate to the needs the pupil, e.g. a pupil with dyslexia (problems with reading) AND Dyskalkul (problems with numbers) on top of ADHS, has.
The curriculum is very similar to the one of the "Hauptschule", but on a slower pace (at least where I'm living). Furthermore there is always a qualified nurse in house and a doctor - at least - on tap. This is not the case in the other schools.
There are schools, that are called "integrated", but often times they can only pick up a certain amount of disabled students. The main reason is funding. Depending on the kind of school, it is the community, county and/or state ... The "Förderschule" is funded by the state AND country (as far as I know), what basically equals with more funding.
I hope this helped a bit in understanding.
Take care - Europe ⚘
Secondary school recommendations are mostly based on grades. Back in the day (when I was in elementary school. So about 15 years ago for 4th grade) there was something called "Kopfnote" (lit. Headgrade) it was a way to grade a students social behaviour with grades from 1-4 (one being the best). My normal grades were basically all 1's so I was recommended for a Gymnasium (the "best" of the 3 school types) but all of my "Kopfnoten" were a 4 (meaning I was an aggressive antisocial trash child) and thus I didn't get accepted into the gymnasium. I attended a realschule (the "2nd best") instead. Honestly, its not even bad if you land on a haupschule (where I ended up in the end and the worst) as long as you work on your grades. Hauptschule in most cases takes until grade 10 to finish. On many haupschule you can also get your "realschulabschluss (the 2nd best) if you put the work in, in the same amount of time. Add 2-3 years on top and you can get your abitur (which takes 12-13 years anyways). I ended up in the worst kind of school and still got the best "certificate" (if you can call it that?) after only 1 year more than the others.
In my town the "Schultüte" is handcrafted at the kindergarden by the parents (mostly Mums) and filled with sweets, pencils and such things. It is usually decorated according to the child´s interests, ie unicorns, soccer, space, animals... I would have loved to buy the Schultüte, since I´m not very good at handcrafting, but my children insisted on having a "selfmade" one. Now they are 17 and 21 and still have their Schultüte.
In Saxony the recommendation from the teacher is binding and it's really hard if you were misjudged and try to climb up the ladder. I had luck and went to Gymnasium but because one teacher didn't like me they wanted me to go to a Förderschule because I was crying a lot in her presence.
Most of the schools were rebuilt after WW2 or rebuilt in the child boom times of the 1960s. But especially in the last 30 years or so, schools have been neglected and funds have been cut as part of austerity measures. As a result, it was not possible to finance long-overdue modernizations or the long-overdue digitization. In other words, toilets that are 30 - 50 years old stink.
Ironically, the bathrooms weren't the oldest thing in our schoo lol
My Elementary School (village) was so old that we only had 3 classrooms for 4 classes, the toilets were outside the building, a gym didn't exist and we had an aditional building on the school ground were the director lived. It was cozy though.
Here in Hamburg you go to Grundschule for 4 years and then there is Gymnasium and Stadtteilschule. If you go to Stadtteilschule you‘ll have more time to learn and thats the reason why you have 1 year more (till 13th grade).
1-6 basically corresponds to A-F grades.
I'm not entirely sure, but i believe "E" is not used in the US, it goes straight from "D-" to "F" as the failure grade. That's not so in Germany. The usual failure grade for someone who at least made an effort is "5", with "6" being reserved for absolutely catastrophic failure such as handing in an empty sheet of paper.
The 1-15 system in the later years is interpreted as a points score. More points are better ;-)
interestingly I heard E is not used because parents thought it stood for "Excellent" a "Failing" F seems more in line with American thinking
Also a “6” is given when a cheater is caught in the act of cheating…
Effort, hah, yes, that's it!
In a test once, we had to write a short essay on a philosophical/ethical question... and for an unspecified reason, I could not think of anything to write.
But I didn't want to return an empty paper, so I wrote down a memorized foreign language poem.
I got a 5... and the comment from the teacher that he had to give me that, because he couldn't be sure if my text didn't answer the question... he didn't understand it.
Don't let it ever be said that Germans don't have a sense of humour!
@@Groffili a classmate of mine turned in her French essay exam in Spanish. She read the assignment (French) once, tuned out to think about it and pumped out a couple of sheets of paper in record time. But in Spanish. Our teacher was very cool about it though and talked to the other French teacher (we had 2 French classes for a couple of years, because there were too many students for just one) and my classmate was allowed to repeat the exam with the other class some days later (they had a different assignment of course, so she couldn't prepare more than everyone else).
And as a little bonus, the French teacher handed the essay to her Spanish teacher and he gave her a little plus in his grade book, like if she had handed in some extra work.
You can also get zero points in the second system, which corresponds to a 6 in the first one
Before corona it was mantra “get children away from monitors” and during corona it was problem in many countries. Regarding toilets … I remember my school till 4th class … in 100 years old building … sometimes you need a bit more than just cleaning staff.
I went to a gymnasium in Germany and literally next to our school there was a Hauptschule. Our toilets have been super clean with toilet paper and soap but the toilets in the other school were gross, so what happened is that almost all kids from the other school would come over into our school and used the clean toilets. 😂
As a german you don’t even recognise how bad this video is made. It’s good to see an American react to it and see his confusion. I hope someone will make a new video, where it’s better explained
To the Gymnasium, Realschule and Hauptschule:
When you are in a Gymnasium, the school expects more from you and lessons are harder. In a Realschule is everything a bit more simple and in a Hauptschule the school lessons are pretty “easy” for Gymnasiasten( people which are going to the Gymnasium)
Also: the primary school teachers will give you an assessment which depends on your grades. The better the grades, the higher the chance, that a Gymnasium will take you.
8:19 if they hated you, they’d rather send you to the Hauptschule, as it’s perceived as the “lowest” secondary school.
Or, well, they’d send you to Gymnasium because it’s the most difficult one
Yes, when kids are dumb Hauptschule is the aim, like minimum till 16 years old.
one thing i wanne mention is that we dont really have janitors working the whole time here. They clean the school when everyone is gone + we also need to clean the classroom befor we go home (dunno if thats just my schhol tho (i go to an gymnasium)) oh and while we're on the topic teachers decide where you should go based on you're grades so that means if you have good grades you can go to an gymnasium lmao its rlly stupid and tbh lots of kids switch schools bc its to hard for them. oh and here we dont get free food in secondary school Dx its sad tbh bc if we want some its expensive as hell. Oh andddd ofc not every school does that thing with the homework restrictions for example mine didnt have that sadly.
Well, yes, there are restrictions on homework at the weekend, but those are only for friday to monday homework, meaning that you can absolutely have homework over the weekend, but if it's given to you on friday, t can't be for monday. Friday to tuesday or thursday to monday is fine^^
12:15 well, Germany is pretty advanced in many ways- non of which are digital... the principal of my school recently told us that we had some teens from Ukraine, but they would'nt participate in any of our classes. They only need Wi-Fi to access their classes online. We were stunned, because for us that was hard to imagine, since we simply aren't developed that well digitally...
The Schultüte is gifted to children by their parents, and sizes may vary. Mine was as big as the one shown, but some kids only got a small one, only about a third of that size...
Hauptschule (How-pt-shoe-leh), education for 8 years total, you graduate with a Hauptschul(-)abschluss, literally "Hauptschul diploma". "Abschluss" is pronounced up-shluss (the u in shluss sounds like the u-sound in "who") When referring to the Abschluss you also drop the "e" in the -schule suffix. So it becomes "schul", pronounced shoel.
Realschule (ray-ahl-shue-leh), education for 10 total, after which you usually get the opportunity to add the 3 remaining years of gymnasium, but you don't have to. Again, Realschul-Abschluss.
Gymnasium (gym-nah-see-um), education for 12-13 years total. I believe most states got rid of the 12-year plan (referred to as G-8) because it was simply unnecessary to divide classes, just for a one year difference. Same stuff to learn, but the 13 year plan (referred to as G-9) just gives you more time to go more in-depth while studying.
You graduate with an Abitur, or "Abi" for short (Ah-bee-tour/ Ah-bee). You need this diploma to get into university, as it is also our "Hochschulzulassung"/higher education admission.
So saying, that your teachers would've put you into gymnasium actually means that they would've thought you were smart enough to make it! :D
Also, the reason why kids have so "many" rights, is that our education system works hand in hand with child developement specialists, who try and make the children's experience as efficient as possible. It's better to have restrictions to guarantee that kids develop the social communication skills, and actually have time to digest what they learned, instead of just cramming for grades only to become burnt-out.
This school cone is also called sugar cone, is made by parents. Either in kindergarten or you buy them with the school bag. They are filled by parents, grandparents and godparents. With sweets and other small things for school
She forgot to mention that you can also change the school after finishing a year with A's and B's, so can "climb up your education" for example you finsh 6th grade Hauptschule, good grades---> Promotion to Realschule und you Start there New school year 7th grade, the opposit way is also possible.
I searched for a Gymnasium that offered latin classes for my second language because I really had trouble in english and german. If I had to haven taken french, I would have never made it. There is a saying here that latin is for the more math and sience leaning people, since you barely speak or write in it
The 15 points just mean the amount of points that you achieve on a test/exam/class. So the moment that you go to the 11th-12th(sometimes 13th) grade the system just works with points since you need a certain amount of points to be able to graduate. And yes 15 points equals a 1+ but that's just a way of making it easier to calculate the grade average of someone.
About the grades:
The students usually get grades using the 1-6 system. 6 is the worst grade and the system goes over 5-, 5, 5+, 4-, 4, 4+, ... up to 1+ being the best grade.
To pass the school year, your grades in your annual report have to follow certain rules:
1. No 6 in any subject
2. Two or less 5s in any subject
3. If you got a 5 in any subject, you need another subject with grade of 3 or better to compensate the 5. Only one 5 is allowed in any main subject. Main subjects are:
- Maths
- German
- English
- Physics or Chemistry (depends on school)
Students in higher school years (11th grade and higher) get grades using the 0-15 system. The 0 in this system equals the 6 in the common 1-6 system and the 15 equals the 1+ in the common system.
In the state where I live (Hamburg) there are only two secondary schools the stadtteilschule wich goes up untill 13 grade and the gymnasium wich goes up untill 12 grade. The Stadtteilschule are for the kids who are not so smart and the gymnasium are for the gifted children.
13:23 you can drink beer in germany when youre 14 years old and your parents allowing it if they dont you have to wait till youre 16 years old
There is a rule for giving homework in Hessen. When you have a subject on Friday(like german) which you also have on Monday( after the weekend) and you also have school til the 9th lesson(on Friday) the teacher is not allowed to give you homework in that subject
I went to a Realschule (graduated 2010). It had, for the time, a good IT infrastructure but most of it was a pilot project. A projector in every class, the teachers had a PC at the front (obviously hooked up to the projector under the ceiling) and two classes (out of 4 to 5) of each year had lessons with a laptop. Problem was, most teachers didn't know anything about IT, so even though we had to bring the laptop to school (together with the books, since no lockers), it was only used about 40% of the time...
Quite unusual but very nice. My son give her sister a Schultüte at her very last day in school. She was very pleased by that idea. But normally Schultüte is handcrafted in the kindergarten by the kids themselves.
In Germany we have a so called “Gymnasium” instead of the Highschool if you want to graduate after 13 years of school instead of 10. Those schools recently started using a new marking system where you get “mark points” instead of the actual mark. These go from 1 to 15 where 15, as said in the video, is the best. To get your actual mark, the 15 points are separate into 6 areas. If you got 0 mark points you automatically get the mark 6 but each section from 1 point is separate in three points, because you got marks like +5, -5, +1 or -1.
Das ist aber nichts Neues!
Recently? In my gym it was 1980.
If you are a working class kid, it is until this day, often, that you are send to Hauptschule or Realschule. If your parents are doctors or lawyers your way to gymnasium is more "open". It naturally depends on your grades, but a working class family can may not help you in gymnasium or pay years of rent and such when your studying. So in germany it also depends, in which family you were born.
Also a very important thing she didn‘t mention is that EVERY teacher has to have a University degree. No matter what class or subject they are teaching (yes, even sports or music class in 1st grade, not even a professional soccer player like Ronaldo could come in and just become a sports teacher if he wanted to). This is mostly (but not only) because they have to learn the educational part aswell. German schools also always have a „trust teacher“ who often doesn‘t even give classes but is just there to support children when they argue with their friends, have issues at home or even with teachers or their mental health. Everyone can go to them at all times and ask for help and they will provide you with solutions or have a word with the teachers if they treat children badly (the child stays anonymous ofc!). Usually you are in a group of 15-30 people who will have all classes together (some schools are different, but most have these strict classes that don‘t usually mix with others). If you feel uncomfortable or just want to change class, you usually can without any issues. Oh and homework on weekends are still given to the children, but not on vacation!
It also has disadvantages to have such high education standards for teachers.
In the Netherlands we have a very similar system of education. We also have massive shortage of teachers for nearly all subjects.
I would like to be a teacher, the pay is decent enough, you can work in your own town with no commute and I like children, I think theyre great fun to be around.
But to become a teacher, I would need to get a bachelors and a masters degree in, for example, physics, Dutch or English literature, etc, and then go to a teachers school for an additional year to get certified.
While with my knowledge I could teach at least Dutch, English, physics, math, geography, history, and economics at gymnasium level without any problem. I wouldnt even need to read the books. But I cant do that because of regulations and I dont want to or can afford to go to school for 5 or 6 years to get the qualifications.
Hence we have shortages of teachers and classes are getting canceled all over the country because they cant find people to do the job.
Let's add my 2 cent^^
also I'm out of school for about 20 years, things seems have changed?
At least till the mid 2000's it depended on you average marks on which branch you'll go.
As mentioned in the video, everyone attends grad 1 till 4.
In grade 3 teachers started to give marks for tests ( in my time ) at the end of grade 4, all marks from all your classes ( except P.E.) will be averaged out and if you had an overall 2.9 or better you would go to the '' Gymnasium '' = Grade 12 / 13 ( and only with that, are you allowed in universities ) .
Or if you have an average score of 3.0 you would go to the '' Regelschule '' which is grade 5 and 6.
At the end of grade 6 you will be judged again on your marks 2.9 or better / 3.0 or worse, which will decide, if you go on with '' Realschule '' grade 10 or '' Hauptschule '' grade 9.
mind you if you can manage to improve your average score you can change to the better branch for e.g after grade 6 or 10, if you have a 1.9 or better you might change to the gymnasium.
On the other hand if you have terrible marks ( like to many 5's ) you could slip down to Real- or Hauptschule.
Another fun fact, if you have a Hauptschullabschluss ( grade 9 diploma ) and you finish an Apprenticeship ( were you have a portion in a school ) you have the chance to gain a Realschulabschluss ( grade 10 diploma ) if you have a 2.9 or better at the end of the school portion of your apprenticeship.
Though apprenticeships are a whole other topic on it's own.
It is a class system, in the most basic terms :
Hauptschüler ( schüler = pupil ) age around 15, it's the working class in factories.
Realschüler age around 16, the administrative class, office workers and so on.
Abiturienten ( short Abi ) age 18/19 the ''elitist class'' for Lawyer, doctor, ... .
This whole thing wasn't really well explained, or has changed in the past 20 years.
I have to add I at first attended till grade 10, did a 3 year apprenticeship after ( which is paid in Germany btw ^^, but poorly xD ) and than realized I should have paid attention in school to get better marks and go for an Abi. So, I attended the Fachoberschule ( something like a subject specialized college, mine was in Art ), which equals grade 12, but is still not the same as an Abi.
Another question of yours about the '' cone '' Schultüte . It is bought or made by parents / family and filled with goodies contributed by family and friends.
And a 3rd thing I want to address, is the how many hours are spend in school.
As the video stated usually school starts at 8 am, but depending on your age, the amount of of classes will increase.
For Example, grade 1- 4 , about 5 45 min hours. All classes have a break in between.
Hour 1, 5 min break, hour 2, 25 min break ( breakfast ), hour 3, 5 min break, hour 4, 25 min break ( Lunch ) hour 5, home by about 12pm ( or if the parents are working, an after school program till about 3 or 4 pm )
Starting with grad 5/6 I had mostly 6 hours a day and once a week 7. home about 1 -1.30pm
Mostly 7 hours in grade 7 and 8. home about 2.30 pm
and twice a week 8 hours in grade 9 / 10, home after 3pm
Mind you, that was for the Haupt / Realschul branches, I don't know if there are differences for the Gymnasium.
might be a bit late given that your vid is out for over 11 months by this time and you probably won't read comments by then, but if you do read this and wasn't a total waste of time xD than I hope it clarified it a bit more^^
I’m from bavaria and here (like in other states) the recommendation is kinda binding based on your performance in elementary school. So basically how you perform on exams from the ages of 6 to 9 will determine the school you go to and even if you are gonna be able to study at a university. The students with the worst grades will only be able to go to the Hauptschule. These students are usually not able to work in high paying jobs or in the academic field. If your grades are average you can go to the former or to the Realschule after wich you could go on and further you education at the gymnasium or fachoberschule and also achieve an abitur which allows you to go to university. If your grades in elementary school are above average or just very good, you are able to also go to gymnasium which goes by the normal grading system up to grade 10. In grades 11-12/13 you are rated in points rather then grades. At the end of your final year you take the big exams (Abitur Prüfungen) and if you pass those you get your Abitur. The grade you get in it will determine if you can go on and which courses you can study in university since some courses have high requirements. For example, if you want to study medicine in order to become a doctor you’ll need a score of a 1,0 in the Abitur which is basically the best score you could achieve
But if you graduate one of the 'lower' types of school you can go to the next level and graduate there in 1 or 2 years. So you can start at Hauptschule and eventually graduate Gymnasium and go to university. At least that is how it works in the Netherlands.
In higher classes there isn't a grading system from 1 to 6 anymore, there are point you can get and 15 is the highest. So fifteen points would be a 1+ for younger students. The Plus only means that you are nearer to the next higher (2+) or lower (3-) grade. So if you get a 2+ in a test, it means you were close to a 1. But in the end, the pluses or minuses don't count on your school report, it's just for your own orientation how good or bad you were
Schultüte: A gift for the kid from their family.
Lunch: No, you dont "need" one to make it through the whole school day if it entds arround 1PM
Grades: 1 equals A in the US system and 6 equals F in the US system. "Higher" numbers are only for almost-adult kids (11th-13th class).
The wood panel is not on the outdoors court but usually just wall decorations inside of the school's gym.
The different kinds of schools are not only based on what you want to do as an adult, but also on the abilities of a kid. In theory at least..
As germany has 16 states there are 16 school systems..its a mess. This video is highly simplyfied.
In our school we are not allowed to use the Wi Fi because the school's servers just can't handle it. But there were still students who managed to get the password. I once found it out while typing in a simple command in cmd on one of the tablets.
Hello, I come from the southwest of Germany, so Baden Württemberg.
We have school here from 5th grade until 3:30 pm. However, it varies, because some schools start at 7:55, others already at 7:40.
There are schools where there is a five-minute break between the first and second hour and between the third and fourth hour or the fifth and sixth hour. But there are also schools that don't have those breaks.
Aside from that, most Gemeinschaftsschulen do not offer a Abitur. According to the paper, Gemeinschaftsschulen should offer all three degrees, but we don't have the teachers we need.
And one more little historical fact->.
Our school system is a remnant from the past that was supposed to separate society. Actually, it was not supposed to promote the individual, but to make sure that everyone goes to a school that corresponds to their standing in society. In other words, fathers should send their children to the same school they themselves have already been to, so that no one climbs the social ladder. The German school system is correspondingly ailing and should be urgently overhauled. The concept of Gemeinschaftsschulen or Gesamtschulen was of course a brilliant idea, but unfortunately it is poorly implemented. I can say from my own experience that most teachers do not voluntarily teach at a Gemeinschaftsschule because they actually want to go to a higher school to get a higher salary. because teachers are also prepared differently depending on what level they are supposed to teach at. Apart from that, the system around teachers in general is absolutely stupid. If you are not a civil servant but only an employee, you will most likely be dismissed during the summer vacations and will not get a salary for six weeks. You are not hired again until school starts and that is not even guaranteed. That means if they don't want you anymore, you don't have a job. In this case, fortunately, we have a shortage of teachers, so it is very likely that you will get your job back at the end of the summer vacations. Teachers are not role models anymore and getting a grip on the students nowadays is an absolute disaster. Teachers are no longer authority figures.
Just what I know.
PS. I am a Student.
In my school one school hour is 90 minutes. Then we just have a small 20 minute break until the next 90 minutes beging. Then another 20 minute break until the next 90 minutes begin. Then the school day is usually done, but 9th grade and up sometimes have longer school. Then we have an 15 to 45 minutes break (depending on if the teacher wants to start sooner or not). In that break we are not allowed to leave the school property and can't get something to eat if we didn't either bring something or booked something tje day before in the canteen. (And by the way, the canteen food really tastes bad). And also, sorry if there's any misspellings or grammatically wrong stuff, english is obviously not my first language.
Our schools were very well ... oldschool xD u didnt rly need wifi or digitalization honestly but it seems now with covid parents/teachers and the students got in touch with more modernized schooling via tablets/PCs and want to keep it my sisters school rapidly upgrade in the past 2 years because of it now every class gets a iPad and classes get fully digitalized.
yes, some school already got rapidly upgraded, however some others are still totally left behind wiht almost no noticable change. My school for example has no tablets/laptops and a bad internet connection only avaible to teachers.
The Grading system in germany is from Note 1 to 6 which is equal to A to F but in some cases the Notes are written in points:
15 points = 1+ = A+
14 points = 1 = A
13 points = 1- = A-
and so on.
In Berlin the elementary school is from 1st to 6th grade.
Beer and wine at 16, everything else at 18. Prost 😄👍
I mean I graduated 10 years ago this year.. but I have NEVER heard of homework restrictions for the weekend. I wonder where they got that.
In the eastern part of Germany we call the Schultüte "Zuckertüte" which means Sugarbag. It was meant to be to put only tons of candy inside. But nowadays kids get different stuff as you might image. :p
About that schoolsystem thing: Please dont see it as complicated as that lady in the video does: Simple way for most pupils: Primary school -> 1-4____secondary school -> 5-10, with an option from the 5th grade to go to the gymnasium wich is from 5-12, or from 10th-12th grade. depends on how good you are. Thats it for the most! Almost like it is in the US, but with different grades.
But, when you finished Gymnasium (which is like College) you can go to a University and study!
In the Netherlands in primary school, there are usually 3 grades. Good, acceptable, and unacceptable. If you get the low grade too many times the school will contact your parents and arrange tutoring, for a small fee, and try to find out if there is any trouble at home, in which case social services are put into action to resolve those issues.
12:19 Yep, but we are also very paranoid about data privacy. So, if a teacher wants to use whatsapp for communication... that is a problem. Whatsapp is not conform to EU digital privacy laws.
Also our politicians are SLOW to adapt digitalisierung.
Okay, I'm sure many people have explained the grading system already, but wanna do it too.
There are the six marks (1-6), while six means you almost have nothing, and all other marks can have a + or a -. 1+ is better than 1, and 1- is better than 2+. The point system with up to 15 points is usually just used in the Oberstufe (Last 3 years), and can be transferred to marks (15 points are a 1+, 0 points are a 6)
I'm from Czechia and we had latin in high school and the reasoning behind that is that a lot of high up professions like doctors or lawyers use latin based terminology. Actually, a lot of specilized terms come from latin. So the main reason we had latin was so we had easier time figuring out what these things mean. Plus there was a lot of overlap with history and literature too. We were learning about poetic forms and metric lines in the class too. For people who were Christian it was also helpful for church, but that wasn't really a big reason, because most people here are atheists.
Its also useful for learning other languages. Almost every language in Europe uses a lot of Latin words. German grammar is basically identical to Latin grammar as well. It helped me a lot learning French and I can pick up stuff in Spanish or Italian very easily. Slavic languages are much more difficult for me though.
I can only talk about a public German primary school because I went to a private gymnasium afterwards, but in Baden Württemberg we didn’t have problems with dirty toilets at my primary school. I had friends who went to public secondary schools and there was no big problem with Wi-Fi during the pandemic. Some used Microsoft teams and others used Zoom.
I believe this video was filmed somewhere near Bonn. So it’s only indicative to that area and not a generalisation of the other Bundesländer
The woman tells him the truth via video: our vocational school was only renovated because a student secretly filmed a video of rain coming from the ceiling. Everything in the classroom was moldy, technology was junk, toilets were unusable, but the state didn't want to hand out money for the renovation. But when the video came online and everyone could see what the school looked like, they demanded that the video be taken out and started renovating the school, and we were involved in the middle and end of the Corona period. The other problem is school books, for example: almost all books from the 90s are in DM and other inflation numbers! etc. The online conference kept crashing until they switched to Microsoft teams. We were the graduating class and missed a lot of exams.
Every German child loves their Schultüte :) sometimes it’s bought but usually it’s made at home together with the family. For me, we bought the basic cone and then decorated it and so on. Then the parents fill it with little things like sweets or class utensils, without the child knowing what’s inside. They only get it back from their parents on their Einschulung (enrollment) and once they’re sorted into their new class they can open it and discover what’s been put inside. It was really fun to compare with the other children and maybe exchange a few things :)
Basically during elementary school teachers observe the students more and look at your talents. Mostly academically. Kids good at learning and good at math are send to the gymnasium to later go to university to pursue more scientific fields. Like engineering, medicine or higher management. Realschule is more for people that might do good in general office work. And Hauptschule is more for for people who might only be good in craftsmanship or factory work.
This is naturally only marginally so. I know enough people that have gone to gymnasium and finished it and then go to do apprenticeships at offices or craftmanships.
And it's not like people can't later pursue higher educations. I for example have gone to Realschule at first. I didn't do well there and was send to Hauptschule instead of repeating a year. I had problems outside of school and became lazy. Neither me nor my parents nor my teachers saw this changing by repeating a year. So I graduated in Hauptschule. I personally wanted a job as programmer and wanting to pursue an apprenticeship there. But that meant I need to have graduated at least from Realschule. So I had to go to a school with a special class that had an intensive program to teach everything I missed in Hauptschule and pass the test to get an Realschulabschluss.
Then I thought I might be able to even do get my qualifications to get my Abitur and go to university. And so I did. I am now a bachelor of science in computer science. Worked there for like a year. I liked it but at the same time hated it. Now I have my own tailors shop never did any kind of apprenticeship for it everything was learned by myself except for an beginners course to learn how to use a sewing machine. Mostly selling stuff online making double of what I would earn as a bachelor of science while having like 75% of the workload. I'm also in great luck that I live in a city that loves Karneval and help different people to make their costumes for the parade and getting paid for it quite well.
And I seriously don't get why not more people are doing that here. Not that I will complain brings more costomers to my door. Not that I want more. I actually can't handle more and already am booked out till next Karneval.
I went from Hauptschule, to Wirtschaftsschule(business from of realschule) and then to the Fachoberschule (Different type of Gymnasium) so that i could go to university to study. In all that time i never had Wifi at school in the mid 2000 to earky 2010 years. The seperation by teachers after elementary school is just bad, if your parents have to saying or dont try to do anything. My parents originaly from turkey, so i have migration background, didnt talk with the teachers at all and i gor placed in Hauptschuleeven tho i think i could have easily went to Realschule or Gymansium and saved like 3-4 years of education to get to that point. Digitalisation is a huge problem in germany because all the "old" people just dont want to change their teachings. I cant remember any of my teachers using a PC in class, expect 1 teacher i had in the last year of my school life who just got a teacher.
Oh damn the toilets. I was so salty when my school renovated and got the fanciest toilets ever…. A few months before I graduated haha.
2:10 I had the same reaction. I am German.
3:41 no. In high school you have so called “Notenpunkte” (which translates into “mark/grade points”). Where it goes from 0-15, 15 being the best and 0 obviously the worst. If you get anything below 5 you fail that class.
In primary school/ up until high school you have the grades 1-6. For each mark there are these sort of categories. So you have a 1+ which is outstanding… it pretty much doesn’t get any better that that (=100%). Then you have a 1 and a 1-
A 2+, 2, 2- ; 3+, 3, 3- and so on.
A mark one would be from like 93 or 95%, mark 2 about 75%, mark 3 60%, mark 4 40%, mark 5 20% and anything below that a 6. Three is still considered good enough and 4 is like barely enough, meaning that if you have a 5 or 6 you failed
The “Notenpunkte” in high school are basically the equivalent of the grades 1-6.
If you have 15, 14 or 13 points you have a mark 1
12,11,10 = mark 2
9,8,7 = mark 3
6,5= mark 4
Anything below 5 points is failed
Idk if that makes sense from a non German perspective. It’s pretty easy to understand once you’ve seen how it works…
Prepare yourselves for a long-ass comment (I won’t proofread lol):
Here‘s a bit about my school (it’s a Gymnasium):
The Years are grouped as follows: Grundschule is Years 1-4, Gymnasium is 5-10 with the oldest years being K1/2.
The length of school days varies due to the year you’re in: Year 5s only have until 13:00 o‘clock, every year above gets 2 additional lessons in the afternoon until 15:20 or 3 until 16:20, all of us end at 13:00 on Wednesdays so the teachers can literally have meetings about the classes. School begins at 7:45 (so early!)
Instead of buying uniforms, we have to buy not only stationery, but also all our exercise books/folders as well. That’s around 150€ if you buy everything new (so you don’t continue leftovers from the last year)!
The school grounds are quite big for a school in Germany. The grounds of the school I went to in England were at least 10-15x as big though. There are multiple buildings, as in 9, all dedicated to a certain area of knowledge: the Main Building (classrooms), the science building, the languages building, the arts building, 2 sports halls and more.
There are many after school clubs you can join (if school ends at 13:00 on the correct day for you, otherwise you‘d have to skip lessons to go), but they’re mostly orchestras, choirs or sports clubs.
In Year 5, you have English as another language to learn, in Year 6 it’s either French or Latin. If you choose Latin, you can pick between Spanish and French in Year 8, if it’s French you have a choice of Spanish or sciences (Latin is really cool by the way).
Competitive sports really aren’t important, sport lessons aren’t either: you either have 90 minutes or 180 minutes a week - so either one or two double lessons. We also just have multi-purpose courts, so we don’t have designated courts for different types of sports. We only get swimming lessons every second week in Year 6 - never again, which is stupid, because swimming is important.
We write 2 exams in subjects like Biology, Physics, Chemistry, Geography, Politics (why is that even a subject?!), Economy, History, Religious Studies and sometimes in Music. Im the main subjects Latin, English, German, Maths and Spanish (Maths and the languages you picked) we write 4 - all this excludes (vocabulary) tests. All of it is also marked and counts for the marks you receive in the reports after the end of the first half of the year and at the school year’s end.
We don’t have restrictions on homework for the weekend, but from Year 7 onwards we have something called “Aufgabenorientierter Unterricht (AOU). AOU means you practice more exercises during school (which means 5! 'hours' of Maths instead of 4 a week), but we can still get homework today due tomorrow.
Haupt- and Realschule are for those are for the less exceptionally clever pupils. Gymnasiums are for the other, 'exceptionally' clever ones. Your teachers after the Grundschule generally 'suggest' the type of school you follow in to after Year 4. Your legal guardians usually chat with you to then see which specific school you wish to go to, then you have to apply.
If, at the end of the year, your report is bad enough, you either have to repeat that year or move to a different stream. If your behaviour is bad enough, you’re likely to get kicked from the school entirely, although that does take some awful misbehaving.
My school is generally Protestant, but we’re not strickt about religion and pretentious stuff. Until Year 7, you must join chapel services once a week and always have R.S. as a subject. We’re mostly split after our religion, though, so Catholic or Protestant. Some Years in between are mixed.
Since August, our digitally well-performing school has been spread across three platforms: one for communication, one for god knows what and the last for a he substitution plan (there’s no other way for translating that 😅). We have a double lesson of I.C.T. in Year 6, though, but it doesn’t usually help much.
School toilets are gross everywhere anyway, so let’s leave that topic well alone.
From Year 7 onwards, makes and females are separated for sports lessons. The boys get to do cool stuff like rings, whereas we girls are seen as to weak to do this and have to dance instead. I disagree with the boy near 11:50 in that aspect, although the girls are favoured due to behaving better than the boys in most scenarios.
Our school grounds are also quite mature friendly. It consists of a small car park (most of the students and teachers come by bike, trams, buses or on foot, few come by car), the buildings, a sports court and a park.
(Our Wi-Fi also sucks, but that depends on the school. The 'outside-world-Wi-Fi' is usually fine, though.)
The graduation stuff includes a ball, a party and the Abistreich. The graduates then usually stand around near the entrance gate blasting beer into bystanders‘ faces 😒.
The end of the school year for other Yeargroups is boring. Nothing happens. It feels like you’re just dismissed for a 6-week-long weekend. It’s plain and unspectacular.
In Germany, the consume of alcohol is allowed at:
14 with guidance of a parent/legal guardian,
16 without guidance,
18 (not too strong drinks)
Something over 20/21 for string drinks like Vodka.
This was a long-ass comment oh my god.
The part about the alcohol is not correct, you can get all kinds of alcohol at 18, wine and beer at 16.
@@Moonkin444 oh dear… I didn’t give my statement clearly enough at all there. Sorry ‘bout that 😅
Sorry, the inner German in me needed to correct that 😅
@@Moonkin444 hey, it’s fine! I get that allllll the time, too. Have a good one!
@@phoenixfeathers4128 what about the religious schools?
( I mean the subjects that you study is it the same to normal school)
Basically the grading system differentiates in primary/middle school and high school.
Primary and middle school have the 1-6 grades where a 1+ is the best and a 6 is the worst grade. The whole thing goes like (from best to worst):
1+
1
1-
2+
2
2-
3+
3
3-
4+
4
4-
5+
5
5-
6
The + and - are there to give the grades more nuance and because a 6 means that you failed there isn’t any + or -.
If you count all of the numbers above there are 16 different grades and because it isn’t really practical to find out somebody average with all the pluses and minuses there is the so called point system that ranges from 0 to 15. Like I said it is used to simplify the whole process of defining a final grade at the end of ones school career.
So:
1+ = 15
1 = 14
1- = 13
And so on…
A 6 equally then 0 points…
That is the basic principle of the grading system. Don’t ask me why it’s so over complicated but it’s just how it’s handled…
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Kids cant choose which school they want to go to! If youre a „bad“ student you have to go to the Hauptschule.
If youre a „ok“ student you can go to the Realschule.
And the Gymnasium is for the „best“ students
I dont like this system but im not the Gouvernment🫡🤣
no, in 4th grade you take a exam to "proof" you are ready for middle/high school ect. when you have like too low points you may gotta repeat the year at primary school, if you have a certain level of points you can only visit "Hauptschule" or only "Hauptschule" and Realschule", if you have full points or are good enough (told by grades) you can go to the gymnasium (smth kinda similar like normal american middle/highschool). "gymnasium" has the highest graduation and you can study with that. if you visit "haupt/realschule" you first have to do a Gymnasium graduation thing to go to university, so you can really choose, and also not based on what you want to do in your future...
Internet ist Neuland 12:04
The Homeworkrestriction are just when you have a lesson on friday, you do not may get Homework till monday 🙃
And you do not choose berween Hauptschule, Realschule and Gymnasium, you get an an recommendation were to go, that depends on how good you are.
The austrian school system is basically an easy version of the german one! We only have Volkschule (Grundschule) and then hauptschule and gymnasium. We also have Waldorf schools. I mean we obviously also have universities and HTL's. (HTL's are a school, that can be entered after the 8th grade) Also homeschooling is allowed here
Apparently the toilet situation hasn't changed. How nostalgic! Out of school for about 15 years.
The "regular school day" from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. she describes here is supposed to be a "regular school day" in primary school. In middle and high school, of course school days are longer.
3:42 No, in German it's 1 to 6 (1 is the best and 6 the worst), but this girl from the video comes from the UK, where the best grade is 15/15, which is like a 1+ in Germany.
So, extremely good. That's, what she meant. To keep it German, we got: 1+, 1, 1-, 2+, 2, 2-, 3+, 3, 3-, 4+, 4, 4-, 5+, 5, 5-, 6.
So to translate it to your US-system, it's: 1 like A, 2 like B, 3 like C, 4 like D, 5 like E & 6 like F.
3:35 all schools have from 1-6 (1 being the best) but FOS or other higher schools have 1-15, with 15 being the best (= a 1+ in primary school)
1:19 In Germany we call is "Unglückliche Fügung mit 4 Buchstaben"....
"Pech"😅😅