Hey Josh! Don't feel bad about recommending products you are proud of, lot's of people trust you, but we also appreciate your input on products, there are just so many options these days so your videos are helpful to so many of us.
Thank you for the kind words! Sometimes it's hard to fully recommend products if I haven't used them long term though. It's something I try to be transparent about. I do think there is a lot of cool tech and ideas in these batteries and power connectors. And you are totally right, so many options these days!
I like this setup. I just stripped down my R5c and took the cage off and love the feeling of a smaller handheld for client and personal. This is not much size difference than if I got the grip. Thanks for the video Josh!
Cool. I can see many Canon and BM shooters using this. Especially on the bottom underneath. It would be cool if Core made a magnetic plate that had a Manfrotto rail on the bottom to drop on a tripod/Gimbal.? Arca Swiss option too? I used the SmallRig flip plate like you have. I preferred the battery on the bottom for LCD reasons. Those batteries are very interesting. It seems everything in the camera world needs to be highly functional and great design. Nice.
i think this tech would be useful for location field monitors, lights and audio recorders more so than cameras. V mount PD power to an R5C seems to be a solid hot swappable option already. but if you had a light running low on an interview in the field it could come in handy
Pd pro seems to be a great option, i never was a big fan of all the flimsy and unsafe powerplugs, if it turns out to be practical i hope to see it to be adopted by the camera industry
Very innovative design. Note one problem I found with v-mount batteries in general is often they can't provide enough voltage when powering multiple devices. For example let's say the camera wants 9v and the field monitor wants 12v totaling 21v. Many v-mount batteries can only deliver 16v. You might want to do a test on whether you can power both the camera and a monitor since that's a common setup.
The idea is really interesting. Stacking batteries to charge them is also very nice, my v-mount powering station is not exactly a compact device. I cannot help to wonder a bit about how robust the whole stacked thing could be on the long term though.
Hey Josh, dude thank you so much for this video. This is so helpful and just wanted to ask if I purchase this battery does it come with that USB pro cable you’re using or do I need to buy that separately? Also, does it come with that bottom piece you attached to the camera that’s a magnet? Thanks a lot, brother.
You are very welcome! Most of it you can just buy the pieces that you need. B&H does have a few kits like this one: bhpho.to/4hfPtww There are links in the description for the individual pieces.
Neat, but I have a bad habit of tossing my vmount's in my portabrace bag, would have to be careful to case these. (should case my others too). Love the lockable connection!
ok Josh... I bought the batteries and sent them back. The main issue is with the magnet. If you have a heavy lens on the camera, the forward weight will dislodge the magnet. If you push the camera backward, it also dislodges the magnet. They also take a long time to charge.
As an option it'd be nice to have kinda power base with connectors, so you can screw it to the base of the camera connect and do not touch cables any more. Fake battery bases with some juice, to allow hot swapping, as well. Looks promising in the long run)
Thank you, Josh. This seems very interesting. … question…Is this battery powerful enough to be considered USB-C powered delivery capable of 8K 60fps raw on the R5 C? If so, that would be amazing.
10:47 I dont trust this combitation as a solid one. Because if the lens weigh more and then the battery will be apart. It looks like only for hand-held using.
If the battery is on the bottom of the camera and you mount it to a tripod, what happens if you accidentally hit the camera? Will it fall off, or is the magnet strong enough to hold it in such a situation?
From the manual: "To ensure optimal performance, it is recommended to test the capability of the QR plate mechanism to make sure it can withstand camera pans and movement. While strong, the mechanism can only support up to 5 lbs, and with longer lenses, the leverage and top-heavy accessories can create a weight imbalance that needs to be considered." coreswx.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/PBE_SNAP-Manual_r1A.pdf
2:50 - Considering their physical design, and the fact that you can stack more "on top of" the one that is plugged into your device, I would want them to only draw power from the battery that is farthest from the battery that is plugged into the device, until the farthest batteries are completely discharged. That way, you can swap out discharged batteries while still having the most charged battery connected to your device full time. With the design as you describe it, all the batteries will reach zero charge at the same time. This is less convenient for recharging while still continuing to use the device, when you cannot simply supply full-time "shore power" to your device. You know, when you have to take the batteries somewhere away from the device to get them charged. If I were using these, I might often have to take the batteries back to my vehicle (with solar panels on the roof) to charge the batteries. But, there would be times when I would want to keep using the device continuously during that time. Perhaps, in a firmware update, they could allow the user to choose the charge/discharge pattern.
Question Is This a Smart Battery Can It Recignize What Wattage Your Camera Needs Because Most Cameras Have Different Wattage Thanks Nice Video Cool Battery
the only thing that I would have changed is having the power connector on the plate, so I could remove battery to walk around using the in camera bat and than back on external battery just snapping the battery on, without any cable change
That would be cool, but I think what they really wanted was to leave that bottom battery on as the base and then you can hot swap the batteries. This keeps the baseplate smaller and cheaper. Would be a cool option to have both though!
Can you possibly do a jiggle test? I need to know how this would "hold on" in a run and gun situation. Or if I were on a beach doing a shoot would it fall off? I'm very skeptical of batteries being held on by magnets
I'm referring to the lurid headline: no, they will not. 🤪 I attach a 95 Wh V-mount battery to my trouser belt and connect it to the R5C via USB-C. This means I don't have to carry the heavy weight of the battery with my arms. The weight doesn't matter on the belt.
I love this concept. But they're priced at the same price as 99Wh batteries so they're effectively double the price... no LCD either. I'm a little on the fence though because I love Core batteries. The SmallHD Pro batteries look like my next purchase though, because of the features and price.
Josh, sorry to add a comment not in line with this video. I watched your R5C vs R5II dynamic range vid (thank you). I am thinking about selling my R5C for an R5II - do you think the dynamic range is a big enough step up to suffer the process to get the R5II? I know you had a conclusion in your vid but just wanted to see if your thoughts had changed.
This is a great idea, but it wouldn't work for me. I use a camera harness, and I would never want to trust my gear to be supported only by the hold of the magnets tying into the plate. I don't care how strong they are, a solid bump and I'd lose everything. A "pass-through" 1/4-20 connector that physically attaches to the camera would work well for me, but that would only allow one battery, because a second would still be magnetically connected. It's a good idea, and seems to be a great product for a single-camera set-up. Just some bumps that would affect some shooters.
This is literally the most ridiculous poorly designed battery idea I have ever seen. Tripod? Gimbal? Slider? This solution is only at best a hand held solution. One screw on the bottom for connecting to tripod? and the camera connected by magnets as it moves on a jib? So unbelievably amateur and ill conceived. The idea of stacking undermines balance and I cannot begin to express how moronic these batteries are. I am staggered. Has anyone ever used a pagbelt?? No?? Really. Holy moly.
Do you get to keep the batteries? This really changes the bias of the review as getting sent free stuff that you get to keep is the same as getting paid. Do a favourable review, get more free stuff in future!
Hey Josh! Don't feel bad about recommending products you are proud of, lot's of people trust you, but we also appreciate your input on products, there are just so many options these days so your videos are helpful to so many of us.
Thank you for the kind words! Sometimes it's hard to fully recommend products if I haven't used them long term though. It's something I try to be transparent about. I do think there is a lot of cool tech and ideas in these batteries and power connectors. And you are totally right, so many options these days!
Thanks Josh, You're videos are always so concise with no BS. Great information quickly!
These look very interesting, thanks for sharing Josh
Hey Chris! You're welcome!
Wow! the batteries look really good and I love the design and all the features they have.
Great alternative! Good video! I’m really liking that lockable USB C PD cable system
Thanks! Yeah I really like those connectors!
Thank you EU for USB-C and great update on the pro idea! I would not want pro on everything, but when shooting, it’s a great update.
these batteries could be a game changer.... thanks for the video
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
not having to interrupt power delivery in order to swap out batteries or add in charged ones seems like a great advantage
I like this setup. I just stripped down my R5c and took the cage off and love the feeling of a smaller handheld for client and personal.
This is not much size difference than if I got the grip. Thanks for the video Josh!
You're welcome. Thanks for checking out the video!
Cool concept! Nice video 👍👍
Thanks for watching!
Cool. I can see many Canon and BM shooters using this. Especially on the bottom underneath. It would be cool if Core made a magnetic plate that had a Manfrotto rail on the bottom to drop on a tripod/Gimbal.? Arca Swiss option too? I used the SmallRig flip plate like you have. I preferred the battery on the bottom for LCD reasons. Those batteries are very interesting. It seems everything in the camera world needs to be highly functional and great design. Nice.
Would love this for my R5C's just wish it came in a bigger Wh.
i think this tech would be useful for location field monitors, lights and audio recorders more so than cameras. V mount PD power to an R5C seems to be a solid hot swappable option already. but if you had a light running low on an interview in the field it could come in handy
Nice!! Thanks.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
okay this changes everything
on how I want to rig my r5c
Nice! Thank you.
Pd pro seems to be a great option, i never was a big fan of all the flimsy and unsafe powerplugs, if it turns out to be practical i hope to see it to be adopted by the camera industry
Yeah I really like the PD Pro connectors!
Very innovative design. Note one problem I found with v-mount batteries in general is often they can't provide enough voltage when powering multiple devices. For example let's say the camera wants 9v and the field monitor wants 12v totaling 21v. Many v-mount batteries can only deliver 16v. You might want to do a test on whether you can power both the camera and a monitor since that's a common setup.
The idea is really interesting. Stacking batteries to charge them is also very nice, my v-mount powering station is not exactly a compact device.
I cannot help to wonder a bit about how robust the whole stacked thing could be on the long term though.
Hey Josh, dude thank you so much for this video. This is so helpful and just wanted to ask if I purchase this battery does it come with that USB pro cable you’re using or do I need to buy that separately? Also, does it come with that bottom piece you attached to the camera that’s a magnet? Thanks a lot, brother.
You are very welcome! Most of it you can just buy the pieces that you need. B&H does have a few kits like this one: bhpho.to/4hfPtww
There are links in the description for the individual pieces.
Neat, but I have a bad habit of tossing my vmount's in my portabrace bag, would have to be careful to case these. (should case my others too). Love the lockable connection!
ok Josh... I bought the batteries and sent them back. The main issue is with the magnet. If you have a heavy lens on the camera, the forward weight will dislodge the magnet. If you push the camera backward, it also dislodges the magnet. They also take a long time to charge.
As an option it'd be nice to have kinda power base with connectors, so you can screw it to the base of the camera connect and do not touch cables any more. Fake battery bases with some juice, to allow hot swapping, as well. Looks promising in the long run)
I can't wait for higher capacity batteries!!
Me too! That would be great!
Thank you, Josh. This seems very interesting. … question…Is this battery powerful enough to be considered USB-C powered delivery capable of 8K 60fps raw on the R5 C? If so, that would be amazing.
You're welcome. Yes this will allow you to use 8K60 on the R5C.
10:47 I dont trust this combitation as a solid one. Because if the lens weigh more and then the battery will be apart. It looks like only for hand-held using.
Take my money now!!!
If the battery is on the bottom of the camera and you mount it to a tripod, what happens if you accidentally hit the camera? Will it fall off, or is the magnet strong enough to hold it in such a situation?
From the manual:
"To ensure optimal performance, it is recommended to test the capability of the QR plate mechanism to make sure it can withstand camera pans and movement. While strong, the mechanism can only support up to 5 lbs, and with longer lenses, the leverage and top-heavy accessories can create a weight imbalance that needs to be considered."
coreswx.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/PBE_SNAP-Manual_r1A.pdf
It's official. We have a...game changer. Thanks for sharing, Josh.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
2:50 - Considering their physical design, and the fact that you can stack more "on top of" the one that is plugged into your device, I would want them to only draw power from the battery that is farthest from the battery that is plugged into the device, until the farthest batteries are completely discharged. That way, you can swap out discharged batteries while still having the most charged battery connected to your device full time. With the design as you describe it, all the batteries will reach zero charge at the same time. This is less convenient for recharging while still continuing to use the device, when you cannot simply supply full-time "shore power" to your device. You know, when you have to take the batteries somewhere away from the device to get them charged.
If I were using these, I might often have to take the batteries back to my vehicle (with solar panels on the roof) to charge the batteries. But, there would be times when I would want to keep using the device continuously during that time.
Perhaps, in a firmware update, they could allow the user to choose the charge/discharge pattern.
Question Is This a Smart Battery Can It Recignize What Wattage Your Camera Needs Because Most Cameras Have Different Wattage Thanks Nice Video Cool Battery
the only thing that I would have changed is having the power connector on the plate, so I could remove battery to walk around using the in camera bat and than back on external battery just snapping the battery on, without any cable change
That would be cool, but I think what they really wanted was to leave that bottom battery on as the base and then you can hot swap the batteries. This keeps the baseplate smaller and cheaper. Would be a cool option to have both though!
Cool but it will break my gimbal balance.
On another note. Are you getting the blazar apex new AF anamorphic lens?
I could try and borrow them after they ship, but I don't have relationship with Blazar or a way to get them early.
Canon simply needs to make a battery grip that allows use of the BPA-30/60 hence no cables.
Can you possibly do a jiggle test? I need to know how this would "hold on" in a run and gun situation. Or if I were on a beach doing a shoot would it fall off? I'm very skeptical of batteries being held on by magnets
I'm referring to the lurid headline: no, they will not. 🤪
I attach a 95 Wh V-mount battery to my trouser belt and connect it to the R5C via USB-C. This means I don't have to carry the heavy weight of the battery with my arms. The weight doesn't matter on the belt.
On tripod they become a slow solution if you plan to stack them
I love this concept. But they're priced at the same price as 99Wh batteries so they're effectively double the price... no LCD either. I'm a little on the fence though because I love Core batteries. The SmallHD Pro batteries look like my next purchase though, because of the features and price.
Josh, sorry to add a comment not in line with this video. I watched your R5C vs R5II dynamic range vid (thank you). I am thinking about selling my R5C for an R5II - do you think the dynamic range is a big enough step up to suffer the process to get the R5II? I know you had a conclusion in your vid but just wanted to see if your thoughts had changed.
So, in an update, I decided the log & 4k recording options and the dynamic range are better on the R5II so back goes the R5C.
$200 for a 49W battery? No thanks.
How much?
There are links in the description of the video that will show you the prices.
This is a great idea, but it wouldn't work for me. I use a camera harness, and I would never want to trust my gear to be supported only by the hold of the magnets tying into the plate. I don't care how strong they are, a solid bump and I'd lose everything.
A "pass-through" 1/4-20 connector that physically attaches to the camera would work well for me, but that would only allow one battery, because a second would still be magnetically connected.
It's a good idea, and seems to be a great product for a single-camera set-up. Just some bumps that would affect some shooters.
Only sending 2 batteries to show the stack-ability is really cheap for a sponsor, I doubt stacking many will work well in tandem.
The PD45 limit is a bummer. PD60 would have made it work with higher draw devices like a starlink mini
It will put out 90W from the green USB-C port.
49 Watts for that price sounds expensive to me
I'm not sure I could trust it wouldn't fall. I don't find battery apps useful either. How about put them in real use, then let us know?
This is literally the most ridiculous poorly designed battery idea I have ever seen. Tripod? Gimbal? Slider? This solution is only at best a hand held solution. One screw on the bottom for connecting to tripod? and the camera connected by magnets as it moves on a jib? So unbelievably amateur and ill conceived. The idea of stacking undermines balance and I cannot begin to express how moronic these batteries are. I am staggered. Has anyone ever used a pagbelt?? No?? Really. Holy moly.
Do you get to keep the batteries? This really changes the bias of the review as getting sent free stuff that you get to keep is the same as getting paid. Do a favourable review, get more free stuff in future!