I was mechanic up north years ago... We had contract with local sheriffs office that took in fleet of cvpi vehicles in for service regularly. Based off my knowledge 8 years+ I gotta agree they are easier to fix less parts are cheaper. Also 400k miles is usually the resting point on these 4.6 P71 modified engines And the transmission even being serviced is about 250k resting point. after that a total rebuild will likely be needed. At 200k certain things like manifold will need be replaced rear axles & Motor mounts. These ar also very common on almost every older V8 engines.So nothing major I would say.
That’s the truth. Our county is sending 2016-17 explorers to auction already. They are done. Junk. Some have already needed an engine. The Vic’s went many years longer here
Realistically no, the Crown Vic isn't immune to rust and natural wear and tear, the engine in the vic will outlast the vics body that's for sure, and some in service vics have outlasted the first generation of police explorers but those were garbage from day one.
The fact that the Crown Vic is 12+ years old and still worthy of being used as a patrol vehicle tells the story. Most 10+ year old Explorers Interceptors are long retired.
Ford has had production problems with that Cop Ford Explorer to the extent of having to ship them from IL to Detroit to fix the problems! That was a couple of years ago. Obama and his DOT made gas mileage changes and made the Crown Vic go away in like 2011. That car was essentially unchanged in 20 years!?!? Oh, and it had a V-8, oil cooler, transmission cooler, high speed tires, 4-wheel disc brakes, stainless-steel exhaust and A FRAME.
Yeah, then they retired and became taxis, STILL running 7/24 in the big cities until there was nothing left but parts for the ones still running… VERY tough cars!
Safe? The gas tank explodes in ones without the rare protection unit installed (majority of them) when rear-ended at 60+ MPH. Not to mention the certain death if you get a driver's side t-bone.
“When you think about being a cop, you think about a crown Vic police interceptor” Amen. The crown Vic is the epitome of being a cop. It’s like the unofficial mascot of the police.
Ford has had production problems with that Cop Ford Explorer to the extent of having to ship them from IL to Detroit to fix the problems! That was a couple of years ago. Obama and his DOT made gas mileage changes and made the Crown Vic go away in like 2011. That car was essentially unchanged in 20 years!?!? Oh, and it had a V-8, oil cooler, transmission cooler, high speed tires, 4-wheel disc brakes, stainless-steel exhaust and A FRAME.
The la county sheriffs department drive their crown Vics hard in pursuit! Which is why they haven’t gotten rid of them yet! Since crime has increased more officers needed
Crown Victoria is really one of the last well built cars. It's engine (Ford modular engine) is good for up to 1 million miles (with 5W30). Transmissions issues have been resolved post 2003. The only problem are the seats. You literally sit a hole in the upholstery. Depending on driver's weight after around 50k miles.
I sold Ford in Calgary. I had the chance to work with a retired Body man from the St. Thomas plant of 25 yrs. He mounted Vic doors and aligned them with muscle memory. He was a detailer at the shop and a real character. Apparently he skidded one out and wrote one off in the factory compound. He loved the Vic. Too bad Ford's Chicago plant couldn't hire a body man that could care enough to align body and trim. Explorers are put together with the care and attention that went into my Model 3.
There's no way you will be able to drive one of these cars with a stock transmission for over 200,000 I have had seven I still on four you will need to replace the transmission the direct drum and the forward drum are two of the weakest points in these transmissions
@@crownvictorialifestyle4421 What you say used to be true for the 4R70. Issues started with light shudder in final gear, anywhere between 50-130k, depending on luck or how the vehicle was driven. It felt exactly like going over some freeway divider reflectors. Over time it has evolved into bucking. However after around 2003 with the change to 4R75 those problems have been solved and there was no mote issues with the transmission. I drove well over a million miles on these.
@@crownvictorialifestyle4421no way. Transmission is strong. I drove one for 10 years as a taxi cab. Terrible on the snow, rear wheel drive. We had over 30 in the fleet, all over 500 thousand miles. Only a handful burned out the Transmission. And we drove em hard, and so did the cops.
Started in a VIC, rotated through all the explorers and assigned an expedition, now back in a VIC due to others being out for engine work and I'm still in love.
Ford has had production problems with that Cop Ford Explorer to the extent of having to ship them from IL to Detroit to fix the problems! That was a couple of years ago. Obama and his DOT made gas mileage changes and made the Crown Vic go away in like 2011. That car was essentially unchanged in 20 years!?!? Oh, and it had a V-8, oil cooler, transmission cooler, high speed tires, 4-wheel disc brakes, stainless-steel exhaust and A FRAME.
I never even dreamed a video like this could still be made in 2023, almost all crown vics are gone from service now, plus I didn't even think this car was still in people's mind. This video is like part of history now.
some agencies still have relatively new crown vics from 2011 that were in storage. La habra police, LAPD LA County Sherriffs, and Ventura PD also Monterrey Park have a ton of Crown vics that have oulasted the first generation of chargers and explorers not to mention some chevy caprice models. i went to the 4th of july parade in Brea and they also have a few traffic units.
If you’re calling crown Victorias trash, you’re an idiot and you have no idea on what you’re talking about. Compare these sedans to the newer SUV’s. For example, a 2021 FPIU. Newer vehicles are made out of plastic and other shitty material. Crown Vic’s were mostly made out of aluminum and had a full around the house steel frame. People think older cars are trash because well.. they’re old. I have cop buddies that drive chargers and say they miss driving the crown Vic and would replace their charger for one. The Chevrolet Caprice, Chevrolet Impala, and Ford Crown Victoria were the best Law Enforcement interception vehicles you could get when they built them good. I’m talking newer ones though. The 80’s and 90’s Impalas were good but the newer ones are faster. The best and fastest police car you could get is a 2016 Chevrolet Caprice Police Interceptor package. That car is better than the crown Vic by a little bit but the old crown Victoria will always be the top and king of Law Enforcement vehicles.
@@dmoneyas24negative. I've been building police cars for many years. We have crown vics coming back with 200k miles still riding. We have so many issues with the new ones and they only last about 4 years on shifts
I remember this one time I went to Seaworld with my family (when I was still young), and in like the fire lane right before you get to the gate, there was a San Diego PD Crown Vic parked right there. We looks for the cop who owned it and asked him “can we take a picture of you and your car” and he said “sure”. I will never forget that. Now I am in college, taking a criminal justice course hoping to be a cop when I graduate in the summer.
I have an 07 Crown Vic P71 with almost 170k miles. I change the oil every 3k miles and I always drain out exactly six quarts on the dot. My dads 09 Camry burns about a quart every 3k miles with only 90k miles. So when people talk bad about American cars it’s not always the case.
Get one while they are still affordable. Prices have skyrocketed and will continue to do so. Prices of parts will also continue to rise. You can find quite a bit in good shape, but that might change.
My Crown Vic has LED spotlight 🤷♂️ sorry bud. I’ve heard countless stories of these new FPIU’s just breaking in a few different ways. THP had a front bumper fall off of one, and they are just known for overheating from what I’ve heard from police officers. Plus the engine is so packed into that tiny space good luck working on it but police departments have people that do that for them. My point is the CVPI is the best police vehicle ever made. And it’s actual metal 👍
Clearly you lot have not heard of the bulletproof reliability of the Dodge Monaco/Plymouth Fury, Dodge Monaco (1973-1975)/Dodge Royal Monaco (1976)/Plymouth Gran Fury (1973-1976), the old-school Ford LTD/LTD Crown Victoria, the Dodge Polara/Plymouth Satellite, and the Chevrolet Impala/Caprice/Caprice Classic/1960s to early 1980s Bel Air vehicles as well, let alone the Chevrolet K5 Blazer/GMC Jimmy, the Dodge RamCharger/Plymouth Trailblazer, and the old Ford Bronco models.
The shiny and new (Explorer) or the bruised and battered (Crown Victoria)? Of course i choose the latter. I even own one. Last year i bought myself an unmarked 2011 P7B used by a local PD's detective with 10,000 miles marker in pristine condition for $1,000. The reason they sold the car was because she was deemed a surplus vehicle so she was rarely driven. I consider myself lucky to bought her because she was a detective car that is properly maintained like federal vehicles instead of typical bent and poorly maintained regular police car, which is exactly what i wanted. My mates often ask me why would i want to own a police car, especially a Crown Victoria. Well, dependability is my paramount consideration. She runs forever, she has a decent amount of speed, she can take beatings since she is basically a four-wheel tank. My most favourite part, she puts people's respect on me even though i never ask for it so i can always mind my own business. She keeps people out of my way on the motorways and becomes an instant deterrent for cocky and stroppy drivers from harassing me. I even once driving slowly on the right lane and i saw people queuing up behind me waiting for me to accelerate. Sometimes people also wave when they pass me, thinking i am a cop. My wife even named her Elizabeth because she is impressed with her longevity like the late Queen Elizabeth II and i have called her with it ever since 😁 The other good thing, her spare parts are interchangeable with other Panther platform cars or even other older Ford vehicles. Me and my mate went to a scrap yard after i wanted to change my Crown Victoria's radio and he wanted to change his own's centre console. While i got myself a Mercury Grand Marquis' radio, since i love to play my CDs in my car, he got himself a 2002 Ford Explorer's centre console. Both fit very well in our respective cars and do not loose or wobble at all despite they were not designed to be fitted in a Crown Victoria It was the best $1,000 i have ever spent and i have no regret at all. I want to drive her for the next 30 years if i can. Long live the grand old lady Crown Victoria
@@asimdillard8956 pardon me, what? I didn't say i'm a cop and i never think to become or declare myself a cop, mate. If people think i'm a cop because i drive an ex-police car, that's their problem, not me
Another oldie but goodie was the 96 Chevy Caprice 9C1. It had all the police upgrades and a 5.7 liter V-8. It had a slightly detuned Corvette engine. In car chases back then, the Caprice was the front pursuit vehicle. The other cop cars had to fall back and let the Caprice handle it. I still own my 96 Impala SS.
Yes there was a video back in the 90's of a Caprice and crown vic chasing a hitman. Can't remember who was the sheriff and who was the trooper but the hitman slammed on his brakes and shot out the radiator of the Caprice when he couldn't outrun it. The officer had to ditch his ride and jump in the other cops crown vic to finish the chase in the end they caught him by ramming his car when he tried to do the same thing to the Vic the cop just floored it into the hitman's car.
The Crown Victoria was the most reliable car Ford ever produced, period. These panther plaform cars are tanks. Even after been abuse by officers many years, they still rolled strong! They will never be replacable at 100%. Those explorers may be more roomy, but they are definetly more fragile. The only other car that joined the vic are probably the 1970s Polara/Monaco and perhaps the 1990s chevy caprices.
When I left my police department in 2018 after I passed the bar and became a lawyer, my take home car was a 2000 Crown Vic slick top. 184k miles. I was in a position at that point to pretty much dictate keeping it. I did a lot of repairs on it myself, and kept it spotless. It ran down the road just like a new car. Would hate to see what happened to it now, probably scrapped :(
The only time they shouldn’t ignore check engine lights if the police car is running poorly! Than that they have to take it out of service in for repairs
Which is the best? It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas.
Uhh.. your way off 440 is a Chrysler engine, police duty dodges and plymouths with 440s ended in the 70s.. Ford crown Vic has a 4.6 V8.. which is about 280 c.i.d... furthermore it does have catalytic converters.. catalytic converters were mandated in the early 70s.. all these crown Vic's have cats, 4 to be specific..maybe learn your cars before commenting
Won’t even get close to that. I’m in my county’s maintenance, explorers are being sent to auction all the time. A 2017 just went. Junk. Literally falling apart. Several have had engines replaced already. They just are throw away cars now
i own both and i love both. I have owned 9 Crown vic's from 1985 up to 2011. great cars and Ford really should think about re-start making these great cars again. I've owned 4 Taurus' From 1987 to 2011 , 2 Explorer's (1996 and 2013) I's a die-hard Ford fanatic and i'll never own anything but Ford. I LOVE my Fleet cars.
Own a 2010 Crown Victoria P7B myself. Love that old tank. Those new SUV police interceptors with the hybrid engine are a PITA to service as I use to work on them when I worked at Ford dealership.
Eventually, a future President will tell the envirotards to go pound sand and people will buy up the remains of Ford and make reproduction versions of the CVPI.
As someone who lives outside the US, to me the Crown Vic is the most iconic cop car. First time I got to the US was in NY and I saw a Crown Vic cab and just had to get a pic with it. I love the Chevy Caprice as well too but the vic takes the cake.
The Crown Vic. Is a much better looking vehicle. Rugged, reliable, sounds and looks good. Their is a reason they didn't bother changing the body style after 1998. They just look that dam good.
I drove a Crown Vic and many other patrol vehicles... The Crown Vic is a tank.. takes a boatload of abuse and just keeps on going.. downside is it's very slow... you time 0-120 on a calendar .. so not so good for pursuit.. but for the utility of it.. it can't be beat... new choices.. like the charger and the explorer have space challenges .. especially for transporting those arrested.. the trunk on the CV is also huge and easy to reach everywhere... great for those of us who are a bit more vertically challenged..
That was the police vehicle i started in out of the academy and for the first 4 years on the job. Was in my first pursuit in the Vic. We went to the Explorer and they are ok but not great. Now in Federal LE and we have a bunch of different cars. My heart will always be in the Crown Vic black and white. They are the worlds best police car, period.
What a lot of people don't know about the Crown Vic, is that they do surprisingly well off road. They're low and drag on everything, but they're a lot more capable than you might suspect.
Chula Vista pd still has a lot of crown Victorias left in service! I went to the tour Aguila they used them to patrol around the parking Lot! I even said hello the officers
All of the city and county departments in my county are still running Crown Vics along with all the new stuff. Obviously, the Vics are tough or they wouldn’t be around anymore. One of the departments went through and completely refurbished some of their Vics with all new equipment and the new style paint jobs. They look brand new!
They just retired the last crown Vic interceptor at my local police force. Sadly no fanfare they just bagged the emergency lights with a not in service sign and towed it away 😪
Ford should've never stop making the Panther platform imagine what the vic could've been with updated mustang engine. The new explorer is fine better design than the last one
My local Sheriff's office retired their last Crown Vics early last year, the last three Crown Vics outlived the Taurus' that were supposed to replace them. Now they have a fleet of brand new Dodge Chargers so we will see how they will do.
Ive personally sat in almost every "modern" police car (except the Dodge Durango police package), on duty and in full uniforms from my Class A to my Class C Utility, and NOTHING is as comfortable to work out of as a CVPI. Period. When I made Supervisor and got to pick any car out of the fleet to be my personal assigned car, I passed up all the new shiny stuff and picked one of the last 2 CVPI's we had left, and it was also the last "Black and White" we had too since the fleet had long been transitioned to an all-black paint to safe money. I loved that car every single day, and was proud (and sad) to be the last Officer to be privileged enough to ride her. When her transmission finally went, the Chief made the executive decision to retire her instead of sinking more money into a relic. I still keep a picture of that car on some of my professional media pages. She wasnt my first, she wasnt my last, but she will always be my favorite and the best cop car ever made. RIP CVPI, you are missed. Thank you for your service.
Love the CVPI! Great report! Great Veteran officer! Love her attitude and love for her old school P71, they are the best....I support her and our great LEOs in San Diego county and the motocops new kevlar uniforms. I support them getting good pay and more funding for more officers in this city that's been turned upside down. Our officers are trying to keep this city from becoming New York! God Bless them, be with them and long live the Crown Vic's!
I'm genuinely gonna cry when I hear the very last Crown Victoria is pulled from service. I grew up with this car, its saved my dumbass teenage life a few times. Hands down the greatest car EVER built.
I have a 2011 CVPI both spotlights are LED car runs like new and doesn’t give me issues I’ve had friends who drove similar amount of miles on explorers and tauruses and they have had a lot of mechanical failure when my vic stood solid
I own a 2011 P7B Crown Vic i bought the car a month after its retirement from the New Castle County Delaware Police Department in april of 2021 from an auction it had 139k hard hard miles at the time of purchase and ive been daily driving it since and now it sits at 159k miles its suffered a few dings, dents, rock chips, missing paint a check engine light, and has a little bit of rust starting along with it needing a few things like a fuel tank because it started leaking and front shocks. But it continues to be dependable and reliable even with its issues and it gets me to work everyday and because of that it made me able to afford the parts needed to fully fix her up now i need to find time to repay the favor its given me back and install those new shiny parts but until then i truly believe this car will keep going even if it has to crawl in first gear running on 6 out of 8 cylinders it'll get me to where im going.
I've always wanted a Crown Vic since I was little, would love to get one soon. I saw one the other day that's still going strong on my local PD squad along with a decked out Trooper one. Love to see them still being used! 🥰
The Crown Vic is like the Boeing 747 of law enforcement. They last so much longer than the newer crap and I know some departments still using them regularly. I already see some decommissioned PA state police explorers from like 7 years ago in used car lots.
I used to work with a old (now retired) Arkansas trooper, I think he started atleast as far back as the Caprices being the hot new thing. He loved his caprice, but hated getting into a crown vic, but after driving them through their entire production run, they wanted to give him a charger, he kept fighting it and fighting it, till he didn't think he had a chance anymore to stay in it...then he got in touch with a soon to graduate cadet at the academy who was going to be in a crown vic and the kid graciously accepted the trade that gave him a brand new charger, and the old trooper got to stay in his crown vic until he retired.
The Ford Crown Victoria used the Body on Frame platforms for Trucks while all the new pursuit vehicles have Unibody platforms which are more aerodynamic but nowhere as tough not even the Ford Utility Interceptors use body on frame. Auto Manufacturers should have some option for a Body on Frame interceptor that's not a truck.
We lost the Kawasaki KZ1000 Police motorcycle and the CVPI when their manufacturers stopped making them, rather than updating them. The replacements just aren't up to the same standards, though there are a few places where the new ones are better (75 MPH rear-end crash protection on the FPIU). It's noteworthy that the cop shops would get rid of Lead Sleds after 125K miles, then taxi companies snapped them up to run them to a million miles or more. When the cop shops get rid of FPIUs, they go to individual buyers, taxi companies don't want them.
@@gurnblanston3210 What do you base that on? Having ridden just about every police motor made since 1970, including hundreds of thousands of miles on KZPs, I strongly disagree.
The king of Law Enforcement vehicles. By far. If you’re looking for a strong, dependable, and reliable police car (not to mention also fast) the Ford Crown Victoria is your fit. The fastest police car you could have ever gotten though was a 2010’s to 2018 I believe Chevrolet Caprice. Things are insanely fast.
Crown Vic all day everyday period. But like a tank, body on frame, easy repair costs and easy to work on. Things a work horse literally! Can go all day and night nk issues. I've seen those things with 500k plus thousand miles still doing work as taxis etc. I definitely can't wait to see how the Ford utilitie will hold up. I don't think any new police car will ever be able to do what the crown Vic did.
The Crown all the way. That is why it is called the Crown....it is at the top and it is indeed royalty, just like they call it, Victoria! Victory to the Crown!
Crown Vic over Explorer any day. I wish ford would have kept making these. Many police departments are even buying used Crown Vic's and using them for there departments. It just fits the job perfectly.
I flip crown vic interceptors in Texas and I cant keep them in stock !!! They sell within days no mater the miles on them !! Also auction prices has gone up x3 on vics
The Crown Vics i drove topped out at 130mph! And I had to let go of the pedal for a split second and floor it again just to get it pass 120 mph! Plus after driving them hard when they were brand new, it felt sluggish at 30k miles!🤷🏻♂️ That was my experience!
Depending on which of the two rear axle ratios they had, the top speed was electronically restricted to either 117 mph or 127 mph. They did that because above those speeds, the driveshaft speed would go critical and break the back of the transmission housing off. They didn't have enough power to go much faster than that anyway.
I retired in 2021 with 37 years metro patrol division senior corporal, I was in the academy in 1983, and started with a 1979 LTD 2 sedan police pkg. I’m 100% with the police woman, she won me over, I’m an old saddle bum salty dog old school PO-lice. We transitioned to Sig 229 in 1998, however in 2021, they were taking away my SW 686, I still used my 12 loop carrier in my leather gunbelt, however I knew I could no longer be a peace officer without my 357 mag revolver. I was shot in 1994 & 2003, however I myself never shot anyone in all my tenure as a LEO. I didn’t carry a tazer, because I died 11 times in 2003 when I was shot 8 times w/o a vest, so my physician would not clear me to take the tazer training where you must be zapped. I carried my issued Boston leather Blackjack issued in 1983 between my gunbelt & trouser belt like we were instructed in 1983 PO-lice academy. I used this slapper hundreds of times & never had to shoot anyone in all my tenure. Yes, I had the moniker of “Old School”, “Saddle Bum”, “Cigar”, etc. but I used my old school training from the academy, so I could protect & serve utilizing the color & spirit of the law, so that I would not have to transition to my issued sidearm. Based on the paradigm from Sir Robert Peel police systems and practices, no one is above the law to use excessive/deadly force unless in defense of the officer, his partner, or an innocent third party. We must be hyper vigilant to protect human life at all cost, and be prepared to defend civilians with our life.
Thanks for your service brother! I’m a former Leo, unfortunately my career ended at 24 due to a super rare autoimmune neuromuscular disease called stiff person syndrome. I’ve been disabled almost 11 years in November. The crown Vic is the best police car ever made! These new explorers, Tahoes, and Durango’s are trash! I bet you have have some great stories! The sw 686 is an amazing gun! I hated carrying 9mm semi automatic pistols! I wanted to carry a 357 revolver, I never got to use a black Jack! But tasers have been shown many times to be very ineffective!
@@cobra6953 I retired in 09/01/2021 , began in 1983, however didn’t graduate the academy until 1984. My older brothers, father, grandfather were all metro, thus this was all I knew. I never worked bunko squad, narcotics, or traffic division, I only worked patrol division & didn’t promote higher than senior corporal. By 85 I had completed a undergrad , by 88 a masters, by 91 a PhD, however I took the Sargent’s civil service exam & passed 18 different times , and allegedly passed the oral board, but I was never chosen, so I stayed pushing a black & white, and only was a FTO for about 5 years. I was asked by staff, but I already had over 30 when I was asked & paid as a FTO, but I hated watching youngsters on their mobile phone, constantly on Facebook while using the mobile data terminal & focused on enjoying themselves instead of being a metro cop. I would write my reports, fail the young boot but I really didn’t have authority to send them back to remedial training because my supervisors who were about 20-30 years younger, would pass the boots. My Sargent was in 26, and I was 55 but I was always respectful, as I was a 1963 baby boomer. My father was a assistant chief, my grandfather was a Captain of detectives, and my older brothers ranged from watch commander to captain of patrol division, but I was never given the opportunity. The only good thing was that as a senior corporal you are always a one man element, and I always smoked cigars, and always drove with the windows down, so that I would have better prowess listening & utilizing all my senses while on patrol. I didn’t start caring a mobile telephone until my 3 kids left for law school, and I never answered it because I’d leave it in my patrol bag. To this day I don’t have a Facebook or any social media account except a gmail, which my daughter set up for me, primarily because even when I completed my PhD, the Internet wasn’t founded until 1994 & there were not even desktops when I was in H/S & got my diploma in 1981. I always shave from ear to ear, and stay squared away like I was trained in the academy. Only narcotics division, deployment, undercover officers wore beards on duty, visible tattoos, earrings etc.. I was stopped last year for allegedly not wearing a seatbelt, but I was driving my 1979 F-350 crew cab 4x4 that I bought new and it only had a lap belt, but the youngster who stopped me had a beard, neck tattoos, and 2 earrings while talking on his Apple mobile phone? I really don’t have any stories, except I was shot in 11/11/94 & 08/09/2003, and survived prostate cancer 4 times, my wife married the Dr who treated me in 2003 that was 14 years younger, but I raised our 3 children & my folks moved in to help raise my kids, all three completed law school & work as lobbyists in DC & Boston. I turned in my state peace officer license when I retired & I don’t carry my retirement credentials because I don’t have authority to carry a firearm, however my father still worked as a cop until 2015 when he passed, and he was a USMC who joined in 1947-1967, fought in Korea and Vietnam, my grandfather passed on duty at a stop sign he had a massive heart attack & was 79 in a unmarked staff car with the engine running & his foot on the brake, however he was 17YO when he fought as a combat soldier, only 3 of his sons fell in the South Pacific during WW2. My oldest brother fell in 1973 Vietnam, but I never served. Stay Alert stay Alive, young fella, I never hardly talked until I retired & never remarried, but my favorite time was working the streets, smoking cigars, drinking at our cop bar after every shift. Towards the end, the only fellas that lived by our code “Brothers-in-Blue” were the baby boomer cops.
I've driven alot of crown Victorias when i worked at ford and helped with tent sales...great cars. The older crown vics with the 5.0, unstoppable. The mid 90's and newer crown vics with 4.6..were slower, yet a great car. These new explorers are complete junk..91 to 01 were the best years of the explorer especially when it had the 5.0 😊. I definitely choose my favorite is the crown vic..always loved that car. To what i have seen, best two cop cars ever is the crown vic, the old 80's and 90's foxbody 5.0 5spd mustang 😊. Knew alot of cops in the past who had those and they loved them. Some had thier own personal take home mustang, they did some performance upgrades to them..yeah those were fast cars.
The Crown Victoria far supersedes any newer ford Explorer. Crown Victoria is so nice I have a 2011 Crown as me daily driver all decked out with push bar and spot lights very reliable still runs and drives like new after being in police service for 11 years 130K miles with 6K hours ,the car is still very tight.
I'm a big dood too. 6'3 at 255 lbs. I'll ride the SUV. But yess......officer Eckard is the size of fun size candy bar. Eckard is an amazing police officer and handles her S&I#. I'd trust Eckard's opinion to the grave. I know Eckard very personally and she is on point. Seasoned and will tell you little newbs and rookies what's up. Shes a good girl, mean, but fair. Miss you schmoopie. - B
Shs just loves that Crown Vic. It's okay! Dude I got pulled over by her a couple years ago! Because someone stole my Registration sticker!!! I have huge respect for her and SDPD! KEEP THE VICS GOING STRONG IF THATS WHAT YOUR OFFICERS WANT!!!! I like riding my older 1980's Indian Motorcycle better than the 2012 Harley Davidson Roadster style bike my family got me "for the safety features" We came to a good agreement, (as the SDPD has) by improving and upgrading the braking system, tires, steering, and lights. They let me keep my old momma & I agreed to the upgrades and riding her on clear conditions no dangerous rain or anything like that. Sure there's not much you can improve on an old bike without changing whole systems but I'm happy with it. P.s. let's be honest too, we know SDPD NEEDS OFFICERS!!! SO LET EM RIDE WHAT THEY WANT!
I honestly like both cars, but for me, I personally own a cvpi, I love it, but it needs an updated transmission, its pretty gutless from a dig, the 4 spd automatic is ok, to say the least. It is a intimidating car though, and even though in Ontario they swapped to chargers, durangos, explorers, and tahoes, theres still a few times where people ar intimidated by that big hood and rubberneck it. Its funny. I finally got a pushbar for her, awaiting to install one day.
I have one of each - a 2011 CVPI and a 2015 PIU. Both are handsome. Crown Vic handles better, gets better MPG (21 vs 19) and probably has better acceleration. PIU is smooth and roomy and modern, plus has AWD. Both are safe in a wreck, but the SUV especially. Problem with the PIU is the newer ones are getting pretty ugly.
I was a cop for twenty years and logged umpteen bagillion mile in them, and they were almost indestructable. I have been looking for a low-milage police interceptor Crown Vic to have as a personal vehicle, but sadly, all that are available in late 2023 are one's with 150,000+ miles on them. Even though I know they can go well beyond those miles, I was still wanting something low miles, so I found a 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis (exactly the same platform/engine/transmission/powertrain) with 38,000 miles in it in Florida, in almost pristine condition. I don't think the thing was ever driven in the rain? Long story short: I lowered it 2 inches, put 17" cop wheels/tires on it, installed dual exhausts, a limited slip diff w/3.55 gears, a rear sway bar, shift kit, and Monroe HD struts and shocks, and effectively have a police pursuit Grand Maquis. Takes me back. Yes, I know it doesn't have the extra trans/power steering fluid/engine oil coolers and blue silicone hoses, but other than those things, my car is a police interceptor. Get one while you can!
My opinion is that although the Victoria Crown is very classic and very good, I prefer the Ford Explorer， But the Victoria Crown is still the most classic generation of cars
I gotta go with Crown vic I love em especially the slim skinny ones from the 90s my uncle a retired New Orleans Police cop said when he was a Sgt in the 90s the crown vics out runs the chevy caprice and they last longer so hopefully in the near future Ford brings back a newer version of the Crown Vics
I’m a crown owner and this days the crown Vic is my favorite. I own a ford explorer as well. I love using the Crown Victoria better it cracks lots of heads where I live
I'll take the Crown Victoria over the explorer any day of the week, I'm annoyed Ford stopped making them. If they'd have put a turbo in it or something and some better stability control and stuff I'd have bought one today.
That crown Vic will still be running years after that Explorer is in the junkyard
I was mechanic up north years ago... We had contract with local sheriffs office that took in fleet of cvpi vehicles in for service regularly. Based off my knowledge 8 years+ I gotta agree they are easier to fix less parts are cheaper. Also 400k miles is usually the resting point on these 4.6 P71 modified engines And the transmission even being serviced is about 250k resting point. after that a total rebuild will likely be needed. At 200k certain things like manifold will need be replaced rear axles & Motor mounts. These ar also very common on almost every older V8 engines.So nothing major I would say.
That’s the truth. Our county is sending 2016-17 explorers to auction already. They are done. Junk. Some have already needed an engine. The Vic’s went many years longer here
Realistically no, the Crown Vic isn't immune to rust and natural wear and tear, the engine in the vic will outlast the vics body that's for sure, and some in service vics have outlasted the first generation of police explorers but those were garbage from day one.
Vic was always my favorite
All a waste of taxpayers money
The fact that the Crown Vic is 12+ years old and still worthy of being used as a patrol vehicle tells the story. Most 10+ year old Explorers Interceptors are long retired.
Ford has had production problems with that Cop Ford Explorer to the extent of having to ship them from IL to Detroit to fix the problems! That was a couple of years ago. Obama and his DOT made gas mileage changes and made the Crown Vic go away in like 2011. That car was essentially unchanged in 20 years!?!? Oh, and it had a V-8, oil cooler, transmission cooler, high speed tires, 4-wheel disc brakes, stainless-steel exhaust and A FRAME.
Yeah,
then they retired and became taxis,
STILL running 7/24 in the big cities until there was nothing left but parts for the ones still running…
VERY tough cars!
The Crown Vic will always be the best cop car ever built, safe, cheap, easy to repair, fast acceleration... and the V8 power... a real workhorse.
Try a police Caprice it beats them all. It was designed to chase down a Corvette.
@@DrOlds7298 Absolutely. 69-71 Polaras had them all beat. 440 hp engine under the hood in those.
Safe? The gas tank explodes in ones without the rare protection unit installed (majority of them) when rear-ended at 60+ MPH. Not to mention the certain death if you get a driver's side t-bone.
The crown Victoria was not fast by any means .
“When you think about being a cop, you think about a crown Vic police interceptor” Amen. The crown Vic is the epitome of being a cop. It’s like the unofficial mascot of the police.
Boot lickers spend time jerking off to police...
Ford has had production problems with that Cop Ford Explorer to the extent of having to ship them from IL to Detroit to fix the problems! That was a couple of years ago. Obama and his DOT made gas mileage changes and made the Crown Vic go away in like 2011. That car was essentially unchanged in 20 years!?!? Oh, and it had a V-8, oil cooler, transmission cooler, high speed tires, 4-wheel disc brakes, stainless-steel exhaust and A FRAME.
Those crown Vic's were definitely built tough and can keep up better in a pursuit.
Thing is most agencies dont allow pursuits any more that's why state troopers keep it simple and just buy chargers and Tahoes
The la county sheriffs department drive their crown Vics hard in pursuit! Which is why they haven’t gotten rid of them yet! Since crime has increased more officers needed
When Ford was “Ford Built tough”
A vic cannot keep up better than an explorer or charger. Both are quicker cars in all regards.
@@Mogul20478 I love the Vics, but this is true.
Crown Victoria is really one of the last well built cars. It's engine (Ford modular engine) is good for up to 1 million miles (with 5W30). Transmissions issues have been resolved post 2003. The only problem are the seats. You literally sit a hole in the upholstery. Depending on driver's weight after around 50k miles.
I sold Ford in Calgary. I had the chance to work with a retired Body man from the St. Thomas plant of 25 yrs. He mounted Vic doors and aligned them with muscle memory. He was a detailer at the shop and a real character. Apparently he skidded one out and wrote one off in the factory compound. He loved the Vic. Too bad Ford's Chicago plant couldn't hire a body man that could care enough to align body and trim. Explorers are put together with the care and attention that went into my Model 3.
There's no way you will be able to drive one of these cars with a stock transmission for over 200,000 I have had seven I still on four you will need to replace the transmission the direct drum and the forward drum are two of the weakest points in these transmissions
@@crownvictorialifestyle4421 What you say used to be true for the 4R70. Issues started with light shudder in final gear, anywhere between 50-130k, depending on luck or how the vehicle was driven. It felt exactly like going over some freeway divider reflectors. Over time it has evolved into bucking. However after around 2003 with the change to 4R75 those problems have been solved and there was no mote issues with the transmission. I drove well over a million miles on these.
@@robertmitchell9276 what do you mean he "skidded one out and wrote one off"?!
@@crownvictorialifestyle4421no way. Transmission is strong. I drove one for 10 years as a taxi cab. Terrible on the snow, rear wheel drive. We had over 30 in the fleet, all over 500 thousand miles. Only a handful burned out the Transmission. And we drove em hard, and so did the cops.
Started in a VIC, rotated through all the explorers and assigned an expedition, now back in a VIC due to others being out for engine work and I'm still in love.
Nobody asked. More importantly nobody cares. Loser.
😂 lies
Ford has had production problems with that Cop Ford Explorer to the extent of having to ship them from IL to Detroit to fix the problems! That was a couple of years ago. Obama and his DOT made gas mileage changes and made the Crown Vic go away in like 2011. That car was essentially unchanged in 20 years!?!? Oh, and it had a V-8, oil cooler, transmission cooler, high speed tires, 4-wheel disc brakes, stainless-steel exhaust and A FRAME.
I never even dreamed a video like this could still be made in 2023, almost all crown vics are gone from service now, plus I didn't even think this car was still in people's mind. This video is like part of history now.
In California a lot of urban agencies still have a surprising number of crown vics.
some agencies still have relatively new crown vics from 2011 that were in storage. La habra police, LAPD LA County Sherriffs, and Ventura PD also Monterrey Park have a ton of Crown vics that have oulasted the first generation of chargers and explorers not to mention some chevy caprice models. i went to the 4th of july parade in Brea and they also have a few traffic units.
that's one good thing about california....a lot of cities still run the vics!
I only see used crown Vic’s in the hands of college kids now. They’re old and paint worn. Besides that. I just don’t see ‘em anymore……
New Car smell ? One homeless, shoplifter will change that forever.
More like one drunk who had way too much.
Shoplifting under $999.00 per day isn’t a crime in California anymore.
@@TheCrapchute
Yeah. Sad to see what's become of California.
"When you think about being a cop, you think about a Crown Vic Police Intercepter"
That was my favorite thing a cop can say
Has the young officer ever driven a good Crown Vic? He'd probably change his mind.
Nah, Crown Vics are trash compared to newer cars. It’s like having a flip phone vs iPhone 13
@@dmoneyas24 New cars are disposable, like modern phones.
If you’re calling crown Victorias trash, you’re an idiot and you have no idea on what you’re talking about. Compare these sedans to the newer SUV’s. For example, a 2021 FPIU. Newer vehicles are made out of plastic and other shitty material. Crown Vic’s were mostly made out of aluminum and had a full around the house steel frame. People think older cars are trash because well.. they’re old. I have cop buddies that drive chargers and say they miss driving the crown Vic and would replace their charger for one. The Chevrolet Caprice, Chevrolet Impala, and Ford Crown Victoria were the best Law Enforcement interception vehicles you could get when they built them good. I’m talking newer ones though. The 80’s and 90’s Impalas were good but the newer ones are faster. The best and fastest police car you could get is a 2016 Chevrolet Caprice Police Interceptor package. That car is better than the crown Vic by a little bit but the old crown Victoria will always be the top and king of Law Enforcement vehicles.
@@dmoneyas24negative. I've been building police cars for many years. We have crown vics coming back with 200k miles still riding. We have so many issues with the new ones and they only last about 4 years on shifts
@@dmoneyas24 how so?
I remember this one time I went to Seaworld with my family (when I was still young), and in like the fire lane right before you get to the gate, there was a San Diego PD Crown Vic parked right there. We looks for the cop who owned it and asked him “can we take a picture of you and your car” and he said “sure”. I will never forget that. Now I am in college, taking a criminal justice course hoping to be a cop when I graduate in the summer.
Crown Victorias have been my daily drivers for 29 years.
I have a 98 with 200K, starts up every day, no problem. It is a loaded MGM but the same. Every so often the old coils die.
I gotta 03 grand marquis that got passed around my family till it ended up with me and I love it. Still drives smooth as hell with 123k miles.
I have an 07 Crown Vic P71 with almost 170k miles. I change the oil every 3k miles and I always drain out exactly six quarts on the dot. My dads 09 Camry burns about a quart every 3k miles with only 90k miles. So when people talk bad about American cars it’s not always the case.
Owning a retired CVPI has always been a dream of mine, hoping for it to be my first and last car that I ever own
Get one while they are still affordable. Prices have skyrocketed and will continue to do so. Prices of parts will also continue to rise. You can find quite a bit in good shape, but that might change.
My Crown Vic has LED spotlight 🤷♂️ sorry bud. I’ve heard countless stories of these new FPIU’s just breaking in a few different ways. THP had a front bumper fall off of one, and they are just known for overheating from what I’ve heard from police officers. Plus the engine is so packed into that tiny space good luck working on it but police departments have people that do that for them. My point is the CVPI is the best police vehicle ever made. And it’s actual metal 👍
Clearly you lot have not heard of the bulletproof reliability of the Dodge Monaco/Plymouth Fury, Dodge Monaco (1973-1975)/Dodge Royal Monaco (1976)/Plymouth Gran Fury (1973-1976), the old-school Ford LTD/LTD Crown Victoria, the Dodge Polara/Plymouth Satellite, and the Chevrolet Impala/Caprice/Caprice Classic/1960s to early 1980s Bel Air vehicles as well, let alone the Chevrolet K5 Blazer/GMC Jimmy, the Dodge RamCharger/Plymouth Trailblazer, and the old Ford Bronco models.
The shiny and new (Explorer) or the bruised and battered (Crown Victoria)? Of course i choose the latter. I even own one. Last year i bought myself an unmarked 2011 P7B used by a local PD's detective with 10,000 miles marker in pristine condition for $1,000. The reason they sold the car was because she was deemed a surplus vehicle so she was rarely driven. I consider myself lucky to bought her because she was a detective car that is properly maintained like federal vehicles instead of typical bent and poorly maintained regular police car, which is exactly what i wanted. My mates often ask me why would i want to own a police car, especially a Crown Victoria. Well, dependability is my paramount consideration. She runs forever, she has a decent amount of speed, she can take beatings since she is basically a four-wheel tank. My most favourite part, she puts people's respect on me even though i never ask for it so i can always mind my own business. She keeps people out of my way on the motorways and becomes an instant deterrent for cocky and stroppy drivers from harassing me. I even once driving slowly on the right lane and i saw people queuing up behind me waiting for me to accelerate. Sometimes people also wave when they pass me, thinking i am a cop. My wife even named her Elizabeth because she is impressed with her longevity like the late Queen Elizabeth II and i have called her with it ever since 😁
The other good thing, her spare parts are interchangeable with other Panther platform cars or even other older Ford vehicles. Me and my mate went to a scrap yard after i wanted to change my Crown Victoria's radio and he wanted to change his own's centre console. While i got myself a Mercury Grand Marquis' radio, since i love to play my CDs in my car, he got himself a 2002 Ford Explorer's centre console. Both fit very well in our respective cars and do not loose or wobble at all despite they were not designed to be fitted in a Crown Victoria
It was the best $1,000 i have ever spent and i have no regret at all. I want to drive her for the next 30 years if i can. Long live the grand old lady Crown Victoria
I'm tired of you police impersonators and or wannabes stop letting people think your a cop it's not right!!!!
@@asimdillard8956 pardon me, what? I didn't say i'm a cop and i never think to become or declare myself a cop, mate. If people think i'm a cop because i drive an ex-police car, that's their problem, not me
@@mrtiesthatbind still you shouldn't drive in a cop fashion to deceive people into thinking your a cop and it is your problem you arse
Another oldie but goodie was the 96 Chevy Caprice 9C1. It had all the police upgrades and a 5.7 liter V-8. It had a slightly detuned Corvette engine. In car chases back then, the Caprice was the front pursuit vehicle. The other cop cars had to fall back and let the Caprice handle it. I still own my 96 Impala SS.
Bingo.
Yes there was a video back in the 90's of a Caprice and crown vic chasing a hitman. Can't remember who was the sheriff and who was the trooper but the hitman slammed on his brakes and shot out the radiator of the Caprice when he couldn't outrun it. The officer had to ditch his ride and jump in the other cops crown vic to finish the chase in the end they caught him by ramming his car when he tried to do the same thing to the Vic the cop just floored it into the hitman's car.
The Crown Victoria was the most reliable car Ford ever produced, period. These panther plaform cars are tanks. Even after been abuse by officers many years, they still rolled strong! They will never be replacable at 100%. Those explorers may be more roomy, but they are definetly more fragile. The only other car that joined the vic are probably the 1970s Polara/Monaco and perhaps the 1990s chevy caprices.
When I left my police department in 2018 after I passed the bar and became a lawyer, my take home car was a 2000 Crown Vic slick top. 184k miles. I was in a position at that point to pretty much dictate keeping it. I did a lot of repairs on it myself, and kept it spotless. It ran down the road just like a new car. Would hate to see what happened to it now, probably scrapped :(
Old is gold :((
You didn't go ahead an buy it?
No. @@georgepetrillo7316
"Most of the engine lights are always on, but I just ignore them." Says every woman ever.
except Saudi Arabia
@@mrvlogger7-24 Women have been allowed to drive and ignore check engine lights in Saudi Arabia since 2018.
It’s a crown Vic no worries
The only time they shouldn’t ignore check engine lights if the police car is running poorly! Than that they have to take it out of service in for repairs
@@angelwrapper1003 I guess I am not an expert on the check engine light situation. I own a 12 year old Acura. The light has never come on.
Which is the best? It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas.
Uhh.. your way off 440 is a Chrysler engine, police duty dodges and plymouths with 440s ended in the 70s..
Ford crown Vic has a 4.6 V8.. which is about 280 c.i.d... furthermore it does have catalytic converters.. catalytic converters were mandated in the early 70s.. all these crown Vic's have cats, 4 to be specific..maybe learn your cars before commenting
@@johnfloyd2551 have you ever seen the blues brothers, John?
@@johnfloyd2551 yeah of course it's a Chrysler engine, that's cus he's talking about the Dodge Polara.
Crown Vic always. We will see how that Exploder holding up in about 12 years.
The ford explorer was redesigned 12 years ago in 2011! But the police version wasn’t offered until 2013
Won’t even get close to that. I’m in my county’s maintenance, explorers are being sent to auction all the time. A 2017 just went. Junk. Literally falling apart. Several have had engines replaced already. They just are throw away cars now
i own both and i love both.
I have owned 9 Crown vic's from 1985 up to 2011. great cars and Ford really should think about re-start making these great cars again.
I've owned 4 Taurus' From 1987 to 2011 , 2 Explorer's (1996 and 2013)
I's a die-hard Ford fanatic and i'll never own anything but Ford. I LOVE my Fleet cars.
a new crown vic wouldnt be the same, thats for sure. nothing beats this iconic design of the 1997-2011 crown vic.
Own a 2010 Crown Victoria P7B myself. Love that old tank. Those new SUV police interceptors with the hybrid engine are a PITA to service as I use to work on them when I worked at Ford dealership.
Eventually, a future President will tell the envirotards to go pound sand and people will buy up the remains of Ford and make reproduction versions of the CVPI.
As someone who lives outside the US, to me the Crown Vic is the most iconic cop car. First time I got to the US was in NY and I saw a Crown Vic cab and just had to get a pic with it. I love the Chevy Caprice as well too but the vic takes the cake.
They can repalce the old halogen spotlights with led lights so they can last longer
The Crown Vic. Is a much better looking vehicle. Rugged, reliable, sounds and looks good. Their is a reason they didn't bother changing the body style after 1998. They just look that dam good.
I drove a Crown Vic and many other patrol vehicles... The Crown Vic is a tank.. takes a boatload of abuse and just keeps on going.. downside is it's very slow... you time 0-120 on a calendar .. so not so good for pursuit.. but for the utility of it.. it can't be beat... new choices.. like the charger and the explorer have space challenges .. especially for transporting those arrested.. the trunk on the CV is also huge and easy to reach everywhere... great for those of us who are a bit more vertically challenged..
The old workhorse, still with many years to give.
The Crown Vic will always be king!
That was the police vehicle i started in out of the academy and for the first 4 years on the job. Was in my first pursuit in the Vic. We went to the Explorer and they are ok but not great. Now in Federal LE and we have a bunch of different cars. My heart will always be in the Crown Vic black and white. They are the worlds best police car, period.
What a lot of people don't know about the Crown Vic, is that they do surprisingly well off road. They're low and drag on everything, but they're a lot more capable than you might suspect.
I'm seeing more and more videos here on YT that show peeps putting lift kits on VICS and taking 'em off road. And they do surprisingly well.
Crown Vic is THE iconic police car and taxi. Big, heavy full framed V8 powered tanks, can't beat em.
Chula Vista pd still has a lot of crown Victorias left in service! I went to the tour Aguila they used them to patrol around the parking Lot! I even said hello the officers
All of the city and county departments in my county are still running Crown Vics along with all the new stuff. Obviously, the Vics are tough or they wouldn’t be around anymore. One of the departments went through and completely refurbished some of their Vics with all new equipment and the new style paint jobs. They look brand new!
They just retired the last crown Vic interceptor at my local police force. Sadly no fanfare they just bagged the emergency lights with a not in service sign and towed it away 😪
I got to go with old reliable the Crown Vic. I spent 10 years patrolling in a Crown Vic.
Ford should've never stop making the Panther platform imagine what the vic could've been with updated mustang engine. The new explorer is fine better design than the last one
My local PD has about 38 crown vics. The new vehicles do not last very long
My local Sheriff's office retired their last Crown Vics early last year, the last three Crown Vics outlived the Taurus' that were supposed to replace them. Now they have a fleet of brand new Dodge Chargers so we will see how they will do.
Ive personally sat in almost every "modern" police car (except the Dodge Durango police package), on duty and in full uniforms from my Class A to my Class C Utility, and NOTHING is as comfortable to work out of as a CVPI. Period.
When I made Supervisor and got to pick any car out of the fleet to be my personal assigned car, I passed up all the new shiny stuff and picked one of the last 2 CVPI's we had left, and it was also the last "Black and White" we had too since the fleet had long been transitioned to an all-black paint to safe money.
I loved that car every single day, and was proud (and sad) to be the last Officer to be privileged enough to ride her. When her transmission finally went, the Chief made the executive decision to retire her instead of sinking more money into a relic.
I still keep a picture of that car on some of my professional media pages. She wasnt my first, she wasnt my last, but she will always be my favorite and the best cop car ever made.
RIP CVPI, you are missed. Thank you for your service.
Love the CVPI! Great report! Great Veteran officer! Love her attitude and love for her old school P71, they are the best....I support her and our great LEOs in San Diego county and the motocops new kevlar uniforms. I support them getting good pay and more funding for more officers in this city that's been turned upside down. Our officers are trying to keep this city from becoming New York! God Bless them, be with them and long live the Crown Vic's!
I'm genuinely gonna cry when I hear the very last Crown Victoria is pulled from service. I grew up with this car, its saved my dumbass teenage life a few times. Hands down the greatest car EVER built.
I have a 2011 CVPI both spotlights are LED car runs like new and doesn’t give me issues I’ve had friends who drove similar amount of miles on explorers and tauruses and they have had a lot of mechanical failure when my vic stood solid
I own a 2011 P7B Crown Vic i bought the car a month after its retirement from the New Castle County Delaware Police Department in april of 2021 from an auction it had 139k hard hard miles at the time of purchase and ive been daily driving it since and now it sits at 159k miles its suffered a few dings, dents, rock chips, missing paint a check engine light, and has a little bit of rust starting along with it needing a few things like a fuel tank because it started leaking and front shocks.
But it continues to be dependable and reliable even with its issues and it gets me to work everyday and because of that it made me able to afford the parts needed to fully fix her up now i need to find time to repay the favor its given me back and install those new shiny parts but until then i truly believe this car will keep going even if it has to crawl in first gear running on 6 out of 8 cylinders it'll get me to where im going.
I've always wanted a Crown Vic since I was little, would love to get one soon. I saw one the other day that's still going strong on my local PD squad along with a decked out Trooper one. Love to see them still being used! 🥰
Give me the Crown Vic ANYDAY!!!
The Crown Vic is like the Boeing 747 of law enforcement. They last so much longer than the newer crap and I know some departments still using them regularly. I already see some decommissioned PA state police explorers from like 7 years ago in used car lots.
I had a 2004 Crown Vic Police Interceptor - the most reliable/durable car built in the last 50 years, maybe forever.
I used to work with a old (now retired) Arkansas trooper, I think he started atleast as far back as the Caprices being the hot new thing. He loved his caprice, but hated getting into a crown vic, but after driving them through their entire production run, they wanted to give him a charger, he kept fighting it and fighting it, till he didn't think he had a chance anymore to stay in it...then he got in touch with a soon to graduate cadet at the academy who was going to be in a crown vic and the kid graciously accepted the trade that gave him a brand new charger, and the old trooper got to stay in his crown vic until he retired.
The Ford Crown Victoria used the Body on Frame platforms for Trucks while all the new pursuit vehicles have Unibody platforms which are more aerodynamic but nowhere as tough not even the Ford Utility Interceptors use body on frame. Auto Manufacturers should have some option for a Body on Frame interceptor that's not a truck.
We lost the Kawasaki KZ1000 Police motorcycle and the CVPI when their manufacturers stopped making them, rather than updating them. The replacements just aren't up to the same standards, though there are a few places where the new ones are better (75 MPH rear-end crash protection on the FPIU). It's noteworthy that the cop shops would get rid of Lead Sleds after 125K miles, then taxi companies snapped them up to run them to a million miles or more. When the cop shops get rid of FPIUs, they go to individual buyers, taxi companies don't want them.
All police motorcycles (other than Harley-Davidson) are better than the KZ1000.
@@gurnblanston3210 What do you base that on? Having ridden just about every police motor made since 1970, including hundreds of thousands of miles on KZPs, I strongly disagree.
Nothing like an old Crown Vic during a hot summer. 12 hours of playing “Guess That Smell”.
Good to see SDPD went with the proper CVPI look for the wheels. Those full wheel discs some departments chose for their Crown Vics were just wrong.
Crown Vic: Built like a tank, fantastic powertrain. 😁
Fast enough to get me there...slow enough to keep me out of trouble. 😇
So very true
Crown Vic all the way! She's a queen, the icon, what an American police car should be. The true Interceptor! Bring back the big body!!!
I miss when the Crown Victoria used to be so dominant. The Ford is the LEGEND!
I have a Crown Vic myself, but mine is way older, a 1989 LX.
The king of Law Enforcement vehicles. By far. If you’re looking for a strong, dependable, and reliable police car (not to mention also fast) the Ford Crown Victoria is your fit. The fastest police car you could have ever gotten though was a 2010’s to 2018 I believe Chevrolet Caprice. Things are insanely fast.
One of the best built cars ever. It also makes an really good General Lee skinned jump car.
the Vic was an amazing platform.
it comes down to the department and how the officers treat their cars.
Crown Vic all day everyday period. But like a tank, body on frame, easy repair costs and easy to work on. Things a work horse literally! Can go all day and night nk issues. I've seen those things with 500k plus thousand miles still doing work as taxis etc. I definitely can't wait to see how the Ford utilitie will hold up. I don't think any new police car will ever be able to do what the crown Vic did.
The Crown Vic is hands down the best Police car ever built! I’m honored to drive one!! Hope they keep them on patrol for ever!🇺🇸🚔😍💯
Just got my CVPI on Saturday. It is an amazing car to own and drive.
Trumptard boot licker. Back the blue till it happens to you. Loser.
You misspelled "Dodge Diplomat" 😂😂😂😂
I'd take the crown vic anyday
Support our local police debts. 👍
Apparently the Crown Vic is making a comeback soon
The Crown all the way.
That is why it is called the Crown....it is at the top and it is indeed royalty, just like they call it, Victoria! Victory to the Crown!
Crown Vic over Explorer any day. I wish ford would have kept making these. Many police departments are even buying used Crown Vic's and using them for there departments. It just fits the job perfectly.
The Crown Vic has world wide popularity. I wish i could get my hands on one ex police interceptor to import it in Europe
omg.. love her... god bless her and that car... of course
Crown Vics are the OG police cars. Gotta miss them! They also look so much better. Timeless design for a police vehicle
I flip crown vic interceptors in Texas and I cant keep them in stock !!! They sell within days no mater the miles on them !! Also auction prices has gone up x3 on vics
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I scooped up a 1999 P71 Vic in September of 2021 that's in really good condition, Im super glad I grabbed it up when I did.
The Crown Vics i drove topped out at 130mph! And I had to let go of the pedal for a split second and floor it again just to get it pass 120 mph! Plus after driving them hard when they were brand new, it felt sluggish at 30k miles!🤷🏻♂️ That was my experience!
Depending on which of the two rear axle ratios they had, the top speed was electronically restricted to either 117 mph or 127 mph. They did that because above those speeds, the driveshaft speed would go critical and break the back of the transmission housing off. They didn't have enough power to go much faster than that anyway.
I retired in 2021 with 37 years metro patrol division senior corporal, I was in the academy in 1983, and started with a 1979 LTD 2 sedan police pkg. I’m 100% with the police woman, she won me over, I’m an old saddle bum salty dog old school PO-lice. We transitioned to Sig 229 in 1998, however in 2021, they were taking away my SW 686, I still used my 12 loop carrier in my leather gunbelt, however I knew I could no longer be a peace officer without my 357 mag revolver. I was shot in 1994 & 2003, however I myself never shot anyone in all my tenure as a LEO. I didn’t carry a tazer, because I died 11 times in 2003 when I was shot 8 times w/o a vest, so my physician would not clear me to take the tazer training where you must be zapped. I carried my issued Boston leather Blackjack issued in 1983 between my gunbelt & trouser belt like we were instructed in 1983 PO-lice academy. I used this slapper hundreds of times & never had to shoot anyone in all my tenure. Yes, I had the moniker of “Old School”, “Saddle Bum”, “Cigar”, etc. but I used my old school training from the academy, so I could protect & serve utilizing the color & spirit of the law, so that I would not have to transition to my issued sidearm. Based on the paradigm from Sir Robert Peel police systems and practices, no one is above the law to use excessive/deadly force unless in defense of the officer, his partner, or an innocent third party. We must be hyper vigilant to protect human life at all cost, and be prepared to defend civilians with our life.
well you got -3 lives now don't know how you did it tho
Thanks for your service brother! I’m a former Leo, unfortunately my career ended at 24 due to a super rare autoimmune neuromuscular disease called stiff person syndrome. I’ve been disabled almost 11 years in November. The crown Vic is the best police car ever made! These new explorers, Tahoes, and Durango’s are trash! I bet you have have some great stories! The sw 686 is an amazing gun! I hated carrying 9mm semi automatic pistols! I wanted to carry a 357 revolver, I never got to use a black Jack! But tasers have been shown many times to be very ineffective!
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I retired in 09/01/2021 , began in 1983, however didn’t graduate the academy until 1984. My older brothers, father, grandfather were all metro, thus this was all I knew. I never worked bunko squad, narcotics, or traffic division, I only worked patrol division & didn’t promote higher than senior corporal. By 85 I had completed a undergrad , by 88 a masters, by 91 a PhD, however I took the Sargent’s civil service exam & passed 18 different times , and allegedly passed the oral board, but I was never chosen, so I stayed pushing a black & white, and only was a FTO for about 5 years. I was asked by staff, but I already had over 30 when I was asked & paid as a FTO, but I hated watching youngsters on their mobile phone, constantly on Facebook while using the mobile data terminal & focused on enjoying themselves instead of being a metro cop. I would write my reports, fail the young boot but I really didn’t have authority to send them back to remedial training because my supervisors who were about 20-30 years younger, would pass the boots. My Sargent was in 26, and I was 55 but I was always respectful, as I was a 1963 baby boomer. My father was a assistant chief, my grandfather was a Captain of detectives, and my older brothers ranged from watch commander to captain of patrol division, but I was never given the opportunity. The only good thing was that as a senior corporal you are always a one man element, and I always smoked cigars, and always drove with the windows down, so that I would have better prowess listening & utilizing all my senses while on patrol. I didn’t start caring a mobile telephone until my 3 kids left for law school, and I never answered it because I’d leave it in my patrol bag. To this day I don’t have a Facebook or any social media account except a gmail, which my daughter set up for me, primarily because even when I completed my PhD, the Internet wasn’t founded until 1994 & there were not even desktops when I was in H/S & got my diploma in 1981. I always shave from ear to ear, and stay squared away like I was trained in the academy. Only narcotics division, deployment, undercover officers wore beards on duty, visible tattoos, earrings etc.. I was stopped last year for allegedly not wearing a seatbelt, but I was driving my 1979 F-350 crew cab 4x4 that I bought new and it only had a lap belt, but the youngster who stopped me had a beard, neck tattoos, and 2 earrings while talking on his Apple mobile phone? I really don’t have any stories, except I was shot in 11/11/94 & 08/09/2003, and survived prostate cancer 4 times, my wife married the Dr who treated me in 2003 that was 14 years younger, but I raised our 3 children & my folks moved in to help raise my kids, all three completed law school & work as lobbyists in DC & Boston. I turned in my state peace officer license when I retired & I don’t carry my retirement credentials because I don’t have authority to carry a firearm, however my father still worked as a cop until 2015 when he passed, and he was a USMC who joined in 1947-1967, fought in Korea and Vietnam, my grandfather passed on duty at a stop sign he had a massive heart attack & was 79 in a unmarked staff car with the engine running & his foot on the brake, however he was 17YO when he fought as a combat soldier, only 3 of his sons fell in the South Pacific during WW2. My oldest brother fell in 1973 Vietnam, but I never served. Stay Alert stay Alive, young fella, I never hardly talked until I retired & never remarried, but my favorite time was working the streets, smoking cigars, drinking at our cop bar after every shift. Towards the end, the only fellas that lived by our code “Brothers-in-Blue” were the baby boomer cops.
I've driven alot of crown Victorias when i worked at ford and helped with tent sales...great cars. The older crown vics with the 5.0, unstoppable. The mid 90's and newer crown vics with 4.6..were slower, yet a great car. These new explorers are complete junk..91 to 01 were the best years of the explorer especially when it had the 5.0 😊. I definitely choose my favorite is the crown vic..always loved that car.
To what i have seen, best two cop cars ever is the crown vic, the old 80's and 90's foxbody 5.0 5spd mustang 😊. Knew alot of cops in the past who had those and they loved them. Some had thier own personal take home mustang, they did some performance upgrades to them..yeah those were fast cars.
The Crown Victoria far supersedes any newer ford Explorer. Crown Victoria is so nice I have a 2011 Crown as me daily driver all decked out with push bar and spot lights very reliable still runs and drives like new after being in police service for 11 years 130K miles with 6K hours ,the car is still very tight.
I took a picture of the Ford Torinos at the old Market Street Station in 1975. The cars had one red bubble light on the roof, and that was it.
I would definitely drive the crown victoria over the explorer.
Love in cali you can’t pass smog with a check engine light…. Yet here is a SDPD car driving around with no issues 😂
yeah cause it's a state exempt car, the registration doesn't even expire until 2099
I'm a big dood too. 6'3 at 255 lbs. I'll ride the SUV. But yess......officer Eckard is the size of fun size candy bar. Eckard is an amazing police officer and handles her S&I#. I'd trust Eckard's opinion to the grave. I know Eckard very personally and she is on point. Seasoned and will tell you little newbs and rookies what's up. Shes a good girl, mean, but fair. Miss you schmoopie. - B
Shs just loves that Crown Vic. It's okay! Dude I got pulled over by her a couple years ago! Because someone stole my Registration sticker!!! I have huge respect for her and SDPD! KEEP THE VICS GOING STRONG IF THATS WHAT YOUR OFFICERS WANT!!!!
I like riding my older 1980's Indian Motorcycle better than the 2012 Harley Davidson Roadster style bike my family got me "for the safety features"
We came to a good agreement, (as the SDPD has) by improving and upgrading the braking system, tires, steering, and lights. They let me keep my old momma & I agreed to the upgrades and riding her on clear conditions no dangerous rain or anything like that.
Sure there's not much you can improve on an old bike without changing whole systems but I'm happy with it.
P.s. let's be honest too, we know SDPD NEEDS OFFICERS!!!
SO LET EM RIDE WHAT THEY WANT!
I honestly like both cars, but for me, I personally own a cvpi, I love it, but it needs an updated transmission, its pretty gutless from a dig, the 4 spd automatic is ok, to say the least. It is a intimidating car though, and even though in Ontario they swapped to chargers, durangos, explorers, and tahoes, theres still a few times where people ar intimidated by that big hood and rubberneck it. Its funny. I finally got a pushbar for her, awaiting to install one day.
I have one of each - a 2011 CVPI and a 2015 PIU. Both are handsome. Crown Vic handles better, gets better MPG (21 vs 19) and probably has better acceleration. PIU is smooth and roomy and modern, plus has AWD. Both are safe in a wreck, but the SUV especially. Problem with the PIU is the newer ones are getting pretty ugly.
I was a cop for twenty years and logged umpteen bagillion mile in them, and they were almost indestructable. I have been looking for a low-milage police interceptor Crown Vic to have as a personal vehicle, but sadly, all that are available in late 2023 are one's with 150,000+ miles on them. Even though I know they can go well beyond those miles, I was still wanting something low miles, so I found a 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis (exactly the same platform/engine/transmission/powertrain) with 38,000 miles in it in Florida, in almost pristine condition. I don't think the thing was ever driven in the rain? Long story short: I lowered it 2 inches, put 17" cop wheels/tires on it, installed dual exhausts, a limited slip diff w/3.55 gears, a rear sway bar, shift kit, and Monroe HD struts and shocks, and effectively have a police pursuit Grand Maquis. Takes me back. Yes, I know it doesn't have the extra trans/power steering fluid/engine oil coolers and blue silicone hoses, but other than those things, my car is a police interceptor. Get one while you can!
100k Miles? Geez, we get rid of ours at 40k km (25k miles). Is this typical in the US? Greetings from Australia.
1:43 my guy, instead of being concerned about burning myself, I’d be concerned about the excess power wasted in the form of all that thermal energy.
Our Hybrid exploder has to be left running all day to keep the laptop on, pretty much defeats the purpose on slow days
"Old dented dinosaur" sir that Dinosaur has a name and it's Crown Victoria.
Canadian made quality! Thomas assembly plant in Ontario. Still my favorite, they need to bring back a full size AWD sedan.
Crown Vic all the way! My first patrol vehicle
Crown Vic for life I owned two of them car is build like a thank and not to mention is a body on frame to. 👍🇱🇷
My opinion is that although the Victoria Crown is very classic and very good, I prefer the Ford Explorer， But the Victoria Crown is still the most classic generation of cars
These boats are massive and very spacious
heck even the civilian Crown Vic LX that I have with the 3.27 rear end ratio and true dual exhaust is quite fast for a heavy as hell car!
I gotta go with Crown vic I love em especially the slim skinny ones from the 90s my uncle a retired New Orleans Police cop said when he was a Sgt in the 90s the crown vics out runs the chevy caprice and they last longer so hopefully in the near future Ford brings back a newer version of the Crown Vics
Crown Vics are what I envision as police cars.
I’m a crown owner and this days the crown Vic is my favorite. I own a ford explorer as well. I love using the Crown Victoria better it cracks lots of heads where I live
I would take the Crown Vic. Too 😊 it is also a part of history 😢
Can’t teach ole dog new tricks, heeh .
You go girl in the crown !!!!!
I'll take the Crown Victoria over the explorer any day of the week, I'm annoyed Ford stopped making them. If they'd have put a turbo in it or something and some better stability control and stuff I'd have bought one today.
That crown vic was possibly the most reliable car Ford ever manufactured.