I use a specific tone using chat gpt. And just edit it and take out the gpt-isms but I love how it writes visual descriptions and metaphors. I just take out excessive adverbs. Eventually my writing improved to the point where I write myself and just use it to smooth out the kinks! Then I take it to Claude for feedback.
lol "a stark contrast..." and "a mixture of excitement and anxiety washes over her..." are such Chat GPT things to write. I'm glad someone is pointing this out, because it has become immediately recognizable to a lot of people.
@@aouyiu I agree and have commented about it on a previous video. Claude 3 seems to go overboard with the overly poetic language as the nerdy novelist put it. I find Claude 2 much better in that regard, simpler and straight to the point, especially when it comes to dialogue, it's very human like. On the flip side, Claude 3 is smarter. so you just have to pick your poison, or pay for a service that allows the use of all of the models in one platform and just experiment. that said, it's worth mentioning that Claude 3 WILL listen and do an overall good job if you tell it to tone down the extra fluff.
I'm a complete amateur hobbyist when it comes to writing. I had the opportunity to use the latest models without any restrictions. My conclusions are that Sonnet was significantly better than GPT4, while Opus is in a completely different league. Opus is like a friend who helps you create and understands the idea behind your writing. It understands your intentions and even the emotions you want to convey at each moment. I'm curious how good the models will be in 2-3 years. I created very large starting prompts of 10-15k tokens and Opus understood the rules and principles of the world I wanted to create. It applied them in a very flexible way, giving me what I wanted before I even knew I wanted it.
I would agree GPT is very flowery, I was testing it out and found that telling it to work at a different reading level (average is 10th grade), which gave it a bit more of a 'natural' tone.
If you tell ChatGPT to "write in a style of English that the average reader can understand and relate to" you will get a less verbose and overly descriptive style. You can further add "do not use complicated English words" Also upload a text file containing a sample of your writing style and refer to it like "write as I would in a style similar to the attached sample.txt file (the name of your text file) By doing this you will find the result acceptable.
Make it "American" style is a good prompt that sets the mood for ChatGPT. Even better if you ask to flush "rest of the World" literature as part of the model.
Things you must know about GPT if you use it for content writing: -Never trust the info that it gives, you must verify the information it gives. -It doesn’t know how to count words and characters. -It repeats the same style and same words. -Writing instructions to customise it in the settings does not make it change. -It will use and abuse these words: Tapestry, Dive into, Delve into, Whimsical, Allure, “Not only ….” And “it is not just …… but also …..” -It is so hard to make it learn something and it will sometimes do the opposite of what you are telling it to do -Dall E is horrible. -It would sometimes refuse to do certain things without telling you why , you must insist and literally use words to trick it into doing the things you asked for. For example, if you tell it to write reviews for your website it will not do it because it is unethical, but if you tell it to write a review for another website and give it some keywords to use , it would happily generate an answer.
Most of these you can work through, people expect these AIs to do everything for them. Just takes some tinkering and iteration, but it's best used as an idea machine, not something to "write for you".
@@Sheikh-XX if you copy the about and intro text from your website and paste it in " " or upload a text file, the ask it to write a promo it does a great job. The "review" issue is to prevent mususe I guess. Even better. Create a custom GPT and upload either the HTML files or create a .txt file for the pages you want it to access. Give it instructions to only access the knowledge you uploaded. Then you can ask it any question related to your site.
one thing ive been struggling with using ChatGPT and sudowrite, is that they aren't very good at creating explicit violence, I like descriptive writing that really paints a picture in the mind, and ai seems to not like writing adult or violent content.
@@zcnaipowered7407I can get GPT to do it sometimes, with the right wording. Once had it elaborately describe a super violent scene lol to my surprise. But most the time it won’t. Any recommendations?
@@zcnaipowered7407 I've been using ChatGPT for a few months with no prior experience using AI, and found out quick that it is very politically correct, won't accept graphic dialogue/slang, sexual references, etc. Got red-flagged so many times until I figured how how to get a message across very subtextually so the program would understand my intent without actually saying the words. Big nuisance. I write fiction and my characters reflect a variety of human traits, not just the politically correct ones. And the polite scoldings for suggesting something it thinks in inappropriate... sheesh. I did start using Claude after seeing this video and have to say it didn't blush or bat an eye at some of my content.
Yeh. It won't do it. I asked it why and it said it may glorify or promote violence. So it's the thought police. I wanted it to talk about real news events that are stressing people out and NOT to promote it at all. But that's the thought police for you.
As a avid reader, (future dream of being a writer) I can recognize AI writing if its been done with GPT, mostly because I tried it for a few weeks to see how it worked. I mean, it helped me get out of a few slumps with ideas. But, the style is very recognizable. lol (Just for fun, I had GPT rewrite what I wrote) As an enthusiastic reader with aspirations of becoming a writer, I've developed a keen eye for AI-generated content, particularly when it's produced using GPT. I dabbled with it for a few weeks out of curiosity, and while it certainly aided me in overcoming some creative slumps, its distinct style remains unmistakable. It's kind of amusing, really, how easily recognizable it is!
Honestly Gemini is a must for me when it comes to brainstorming and outlining. I can do minimal prompting and it can still kick out some great loglines. Even when I use the M.I.C.E. framework it is great at just coming up with ideas and structuring an outline nicely. Writing is a hit and miss but it can copy my stream of consciousness style if I give it examples; but Claude 3 is overall the better actually writer but find it still is generic as chatgpt when it comes to brainstorming.
Claude really improved with version 3. Before, it used to go off on its own adventure unless you kept a tight rein on it. People who tried it before should come back and try again now. The top model is somewhat expensive though. People who use Novelcrafter may want to test a bit and see if they can afford it. I don't use it for things like summaries, chatting with my novel etc in Novelcrafter.
GPT4o has an 18-month head start, all the other models are still in catch-up mode despite the hype and comparisons. Remember it takes 18 months to train models and costs multiple billions of dollars. Open source models simply do not have these resources.
All my prompts use the sentence “ensure it remains easy to read and understand” and every single time it gives me very human sounding replies. I’ve also since long accepted that it won’t write an entire book for you, as it shouldn’t, or even a chapter. I instruct it to write a few paragraphs at a time and build it from there, and Claude works excellent. Yes, it still requires a little editing, but fairly minimal, especially compared to others.
Very comprehensive and very accurate. Absolutely agree regarding Claude and some of the differences between the language models. Especially, for writers.
I'd like to see this kind of assessment of local LLMs for writing. How good are the AI models that can be run on your own PC, offline, for this kind of usage? Certainly not as competent as the big online versions like GPT4 and Claude3, but by how much?
I haven't finished "Out of Shadow" yet, but what I have read has me wishing that you were the DM for my weekly D&D game. I bet you could create some incredible homebrew adventures, if you haven't already.
Jason, thanks for sharing. With regards to novelcrafter, is there a way to make codex visible to everywhere in a series. For example if I have a series x with 3 books in the series, can I make the codex entries be visible in book 1 to book 3 (book 3 is work in progress). What I'm seeing is that the codex entries I made in book 1 is not visible in my book 3 dashboard. :-( I'm just wondering if there is some kind of setting which I need to tweak to achieve that. Thanks for you help in advance.
Funny story, I once used Gemini to write a scene for a novel I’m working on. While I typically use strong language sparingly, one oc my characters does use it when he’s angry. There was one scene I gave Gemini to the affect of: “That whore who ran out on his father...” and it responded with, “I’m unable to help you with that.” I can’t stand anything or anyone censoring me. So thanks for pointing me to Openrouter!
It's not only the censored words. We can be sure about AI firms all have trained their models on every bestselling book ever published. From there you can calculate probabilities of what it takes to have a hit. But you normal guy will never get access to this knowledge no matter how you prompt it. Another million greyed out options only the elites will be able to select.
My question is, is the Perplexity version of Claude as good? The GPT4 in Perplexity wasn’t as good at writing and chat as was ChatGPT in my tries. And in Copilot GPT4 was better than in ChatGPT.
i have done a lot of great work with GPT but it cant write like you did there. You would have to give it the scene already written then give it the directions then tell it to not use certain words. Like it loves to use the word 'stark' I just tell it not to use that word with a list of others and it is more down to earth. Or I have given it a paragraph and said to use the same style and continue writing and it does pretty good on this prompt but you need gpt4 i found 3.5 is never as good as 4
i use 3.5 to do flip pov or tenses. it doesnt change anything and does exactly what u ask it to. when i try this with claude, it rewrites the entire thing.
Claude has been amazing for me. I use it to frame my chapters and basically pick and choose what to keep/delete/modify. it built my outline based on my prompts. Giving it small portions of my outline with context has been the best.
Would love to see a video where you compare the purple prose from AI with your edited version that you feel is of higher quality. I've not yet published a book and didn't really have a problem with your sample Claude 3 output. I'm really what you would have produced instead.
Jimsworld San Diego said, "Assist me in rephrasing this narrative following my tailored guidelines (ChatGPT): At the break of dawn, a weary soldier meandered into a floral meadow. Every flower appeared to encapsulate a unique essence of beauty and tranquillity as if the earth offered a silent homage to the resilience of those who tread its paths. The soldier, whose heart was heavy with the burdens of battle, found an unexpected solace in the simple purity of the scene. With its vibrant hues and delicate form, each blossom seemed to whisper a message of hope and renewal directly to his soul."
Update to what I wrote below: seems Claude misunderstood my question--"are my chat sessions saved?" Claude's response: "Regarding our previous conversations, you are correct that they are not saved or persisted across sessions. Each conversation starts fresh, and I do not retain any memory of prior interactions. If you were told that sessions are not saved, that information was accurate." Then I noticed when I accessed Claude again, there was a list of our previous sessions, and when I opened them, the complete session is there for me to pick up. I asked Claude again, point out that I understood it couldn't access our other sessions for context, but to verify that it could reference any info within a single session so I didn't have to start from scratch. Then Claude said it could and apologized profusely. I mean, what good is a program if it's set up like a convenience store, in and out with no ability to generate new/updated responses based on aggregated information within that chat? I didn't think my question was that complicated. So much for its interpretative skills... One other thing: is there some way I haven't figured out yet to get chat to NOT respond until I'm finished "talking"'? I explain to it that I'm going to be writing a lot of info in individual chunks and to not respond until I'm finished. But each time I hit enter and continue with what I'm writing, it ignores my request to wait (I usually add wait until I say some code word) and starts jabbering away. My original comment: I've been using ChatGPT for about 6 months now. Your points about the prose is spot on. I haven't used it much for actually creating scenes or dialogue, mostly to check aspects like character motivation consistency, structure, various elements of writing. I just checked out Claude and was disappointed to find it doesn't save any of our conversations or sessions. Not sure how useful that will be.
The Problem with Claude 3 is the pricing isn't Justified compared to ChatGpt, $20 a month you get custom GPTS, Art Generation, while Claude 3 has vision, far better writing, no custom. I just think if it was priced at 14.99 it would dominate
With the exception of writers like J.R.R Tolkien and a few others that use exceptionally descriptive writing styles so you can virtually smell the moss on the rock. Have you ever tried telling ChatGpt to rewrite something as a Human Being, when you do it passes all the written by AI checkers. lol
Claude is not available in Norway yet and as you share in the video, ChatGPT is not doing it for me. Any recommendations to use in combo with novelcrafter?
Claude uses almost all of the same clunky phrases, more dependent clauses, and has only marginally less "flowery " language . I think it is better if you don't know what you want to write and are looking for the AI to riff off of your concept, but I would much rather have a model that will follow my instructions when I'm trying to write a specific scene or chapter.
I've found Gemini Advanced to be the best here for this, actually surprised me because it's a Google product after all. I've ditched GPT 4.5 in favor of Gemini Advanced and 1.5 Pro. Gemini Advanced seems to have a bigger context window, more coherency in recalling details, and an amazing drafting feature (and response editing), it's just better all around. One thing I want to see more companies do is allow editing any prompts. Only ChatGPT seems to allow this, letting you edit even the very first prompt in a chat. Gemini only lets you edit the most recent prompt, and Claude 3 doesn't allow prompt editing at all. I'd pay 50 per month just to have an LLM that combines the best of all 3 services into one. Gemini seems the best for prompt iteration too, it's shocking how good it is at following prompts and improving upon them. Maybe I'll come back to OpenAI once GPT-5 comes out. Or Claude 3, once Anthropic figures out how to integrate just 1% of ChatGPT's feature set. The Claude 3 API is amazing, but asking for 20 per month for just the model alone for Chats is loony. I'd rather run a local LLaMA 2 model than rely on the basic Claude chats.
I find that ChatGPT is fine. I keep my outlines and instructions very clear and simple, and the stuff that it spits out is completely fine. I use it purely for guidelines, and then completely rewrite what it's given me. 99% of the time, what I write is completely different to what ChatGPT provided.
Do you have a recommendation for a non-fiction writer. I find Chat GPT hallucinations mean that I spend more time fact checking than it would take me to write the article manually. Even if I load specific data in the form of a .csv file by the end of it Chat GPT is either going out using other sources, making statistics up based on assumptions or a combination of both. Drives me nuts.
4:40 its interesting because it really is, but it depends on how specific you get. The MAIN thing I have found Chat GPT beats all the other things at is... basic math and reasoning. Like you said its really good at following instructions. If you want to have an AI homework tutor I do not recommend anything other than Chat GPT, even the free version usually gets things right.
I think ChatGPT is good for many things but not creative writing. It's too limiting with its censorship. Things ChatGPT won't allow me to say or discuss, Claude 3 didn't blink an eye at.
I found that ChatGPT gives me better prose when I tell him to use "simple words that are easy to read". I have to edit all its mannerisms anyway, "a testament of", "a mix of", "determination", etc.
I used Claude to help me write a beat sheet then an outline for my first novel. However, as I was testing various prompts and document uploads I have hit the "length limit for the chat" which is a bummer as it knows a lot about my world and plot. How can I get it to learn all this again with enough "length" left to drill into character arc and scene writing?
Here I am, an old dog, but newbie to AI …and learning! I do have four almost finished fiction novels (in Word…) siting at my HD for 10 years. Now, retired for some 8 years, want to revamp these and publish on Amazon KDP What would be the hint from you, experienced guys, to help me out in speeding up the process? Tks lot!
I would publish them with barnes and noble instead. Amazon was literally illegally selling copies “used and new” under false names. I knew it was them because it was the only place the books were published and there weren’t even that many copies on the open market. I will never use them again.
Good day, what if you had a manuscript and you used Chat to rewrite Act 1 and fill in some gaps; and then you used Claude to do Act 2… Should I redo Act 1 in Claude?
CHATGPT is the primary reason I hired a writing coach. Because of the things that this video is discussing. Word count has never once been accurate for me. SudoWrite is expensive, repetitive and inaccurate. I started with ai but I’m drifting away from ai.
Excellent insight. Crisp and profound, thank you for sharing. I liked the example of showing your writing in the prompt and contrasting it with the ChatGPT output and commenting on the output, it was a learning moment. Thank you.
What purple prose mostly is that it supremely create such gloriously complex writing that…it gives streams of consciousness of such tenacious thought that you use adverbs indefinitely. Meanwhile the times purple prose mercilessly goes on and on and on that the prose gets really annoying. In English: What purple prose is that it creates streams of consciousness that you use adverbs. Most times purple prose could go on and on that written prose could get annoying.
I've now swapped over from ChatGPT to Claude3 and seeing good results, but Chat keeps defaulting to GPT-4 Turbo. Maybe it was something I originally setup, do you know how I can set the Chat default to Claude 3? Thanks
I received this message from Novelcrafters Bot (not sure how to do this, but will have a go): As of now, Novelcrafter does not allow you to set a different AI model as the default for the system prompt. However, you can create a custom prompt and include only the models you wish to use, such as Claude 3. To use Claude 3, you would need to customize the model list yourself since the default prompts in Novelcrafter are using Claude 2.0. When creating your custom prompt, you can denote Claude 3 by the appropriate identifier provided by OpenRouter, which you must integrate with Novelcrafter to access the Claude models. Remember to ensure that the "NSFW" toggle is not enabled for your prompt, as this would remove moderated models from the list. If you would like to see the feature of setting a specific AI model as the default, you can upvote the feature request on Novelcrafter's feedback page.
Chat GPT also copy from websites from Google, how do I make it write something afresh without pasting from Google help, I will also check out Claude if it's free thanks
Claude 3 had better be better than normal free Claude. Normal free Claude refused to even give me a description of the Pale Man (?) from Pan's Labyrinth, claiming to feel "uncomfortable" talking about such "sensitive" and "disturbing" subjects. At least free ChatGPT did as I requested with no issues.
Am writing program alot with chat gpt, still the best for me, have tried another AI but got me up set for losng context when too much codes or different programing language involve
so...a little bit off topic but is it okay to use this bot to help me make some books for profit? i'm in a tight spot atm where i can't find any jobs or anything else that won't take years or alot of money to invest into it. i only have 3 months before i get kicked out so a month of work to get a livable income (or part time income as i do have a job at the current moment) would be fine for now but i don't want people to think i'm just using ai on everything (especially since i'm planning on animating for my yt channel which could take years to make a living off of) so would it be worth it?
I have a solution: just use the prompt "Revise and make it simpler to read" or something to that affect. The trick is to emphasize to the tool to use simple revisionism.
Hi, The Nerdie Novelist I have been scouring the web for a text-to-video AI that won't break the bank to help me as a background to my Podcast. I'm currently serializing my novel, and I want to make a background video that matches the words, but the problem is that I can't find anything beyond 5 minutes. I need something that can handle at least 30 minutes, and that's affordable. Do you happen to know of any affordable software that I could use?
i had a go at testing ChatGPT's story writing ability .. it seems ok to me ... > can you give me a badly written introductory paragraph to a story about robots? ChatGPT said: Sure! Here's a poorly written introductory paragraph to a story about robots: "Once upon a time in the future, there was a lot of robots. They were all shiny and metal, doing robot things like beeping and walking around with their metal legs and arms. One day, one of the robots, named Robot X5-3A, decided that it was bored of beeping and walking. So it started doing other stuff, like thinking about stuff and, you know, looking at the sky. This was very surprising to all the other robots because robots don’t usually do that, but no one really cared much anyway." Hope that fits the "badly written" bill!
I've been playing with a fine-tuned GPT 3.5 model that I trained for use with Novelcrafter and I'm honestly rather shocked at some of what it produces... I haven't pushed it to test the limits, but on its own, it's generating some rather graphic violence (NOT part of my story, BTW, nor was that in the prompt... nor was anything like that in my source training data!) that I never expected to see from GPT. Stuff that I have no doubt would be flagged immediately by the OpenAI content filter API... It's consistently dark/edgy enough that I'm now using that FT model to create a synthetic data set (with manually curated scenes) to train a derivative model which will hopefully tone down the violent hallucinations... On another note, Claude 3 is available in Canada now, API access at least.. I just started using it this week with LibreChat. :)
Hi! I used ChatGPT to analyze a trilogy I wrote. It's all original and in my own words. I asked ChatGPT to analyze it. It took about six hours but I gradually went through chapter by chapter my entire trilogy. It gave me what I think an advanced Beta Reader crit, or like a Developmental Edit. I don't know if I should take ChatGPT seriously but it was amazing as it listed every plot, characterization, narratives... goals I set out to do. It only told me to revise my chapter one in a moderate level. All of the rest it pointed out amazingly what was my intent as my story unfolded and my characters devleoped. ChatGPT liked it very much but I wonder if it is designed not to be harshly critical and to encourage rather than discourage etc. Have you used ChaGPT (I'm using 3.5 too) to analyze any original writing you've created? The way it sounded was like I'd written a great story. I like to think so but I wonder about ChatGPT from the standpoint of it as analyzing creative fiction. It did overall a nice analysis of the entirety of each of the three books and of the entire trilogy that I thought was phenomenal, but I'm only amateur ha!
I agree and I have found Microsoft copilot is pretty much the same. I'd rather research myself and write unique as chatgpt even when you ask it to be more personalised info in a more human level it still writes the same stuff maybe slightly different as I find it frustrating
I agree it doesn’t do well in helping you write things out, but I do like it. I tell it in full detail what I want I let it write it out, but I know how to go back and edit.
I haven't done anything with Minstrel large, I will have to give it a go. I know that Chat GPT or Claude Opus is very expensive on Open Router. I have been using Claude 3, although it gave me a refusal, I then entered the same thing, and it gave me what I wanted. I did thumbs down the refusal and complained. All because I wanted a gritty, dark outline. It could give me a PG-13 gritty, dark outline, and I could enhance it myself. But the refusals do get old. That being said, I do agree that Claude 3 is the best. I dropped Claude when it was Claude 2, and went with Chat GPT 4. But Claude 3 came out, and I went back. Claude still has a ways to go, but I am glad that it's better than 2.
I have a feeling the difference: claud 3 was trained on copyrighted professional work only, where GPT 4 was trained on FANFIC + copyrighted work. oh, and 'novel crafter' looks likes it's just setting the system prompt, you can basically create something like this with cut and paste, or if you don't want to cut/paste, you could make a webapp in a weekend that does the same thing.
Excellent videos thank you for the help and advice its very clear. I like writing people say i should write etc, any idea how to start especialy now AI can help with my gramar and spelling im ok with the words. I like putting a humar into every day situations lile being on a plane, i like the style of Clive James.
I use a specific tone using chat gpt. And just edit it and take out the gpt-isms but I love how it writes visual descriptions and metaphors. I just take out excessive adverbs. Eventually my writing improved to the point where I write myself and just use it to smooth out the kinks!
Then I take it to Claude for feedback.
good to know. Thanks
That’s exactly what I do , Claude what do you think about this write up? 😂
@@danastudebaker6480 Claude really tells you what’s up. Love it!!
Claude is awesome ! I just wish he could do really long conversations.
lol "a stark contrast..." and "a mixture of excitement and anxiety washes over her..." are such Chat GPT things to write.
I'm glad someone is pointing this out, because it has become immediately recognizable to a lot of people.
Even Gemini and Claude have their own distinct ones too.
@@aouyiu I agree and have commented about it on a previous video. Claude 3 seems to go overboard with the overly poetic language as the nerdy novelist put it. I find Claude 2 much better in that regard, simpler and straight to the point, especially when it comes to dialogue, it's very human like.
On the flip side, Claude 3 is smarter. so you just have to pick your poison, or pay for a service that allows the use of all of the models in one platform and just experiment.
that said, it's worth mentioning that Claude 3 WILL listen and do an overall good job if you tell it to tone down the extra fluff.
I agree. The vast tapestry of this software is very recognizable.
😅😅😅@@socman002
The amount of times I’ve seen “a stark contrast” LMAO
I'm a complete amateur hobbyist when it comes to writing. I had the opportunity to use the latest models without any restrictions. My conclusions are that Sonnet was significantly better than GPT4, while Opus is in a completely different league. Opus is like a friend who helps you create and understands the idea behind your writing. It understands your intentions and even the emotions you want to convey at each moment. I'm curious how good the models will be in 2-3 years. I created very large starting prompts of 10-15k tokens and Opus understood the rules and principles of the world I wanted to create. It applied them in a very flexible way, giving me what I wanted before I even knew I wanted it.
Are you an Opus marketing employee?
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I would agree GPT is very flowery, I was testing it out and found that telling it to work at a different reading level (average is 10th grade), which gave it a bit more of a 'natural' tone.
I tied this too, but it started referencing school breaks in my non-fiction book. lol.
If you tell ChatGPT to "write in a style of English that the average reader can understand and relate to" you will get a less verbose and overly descriptive style. You can further add "do not use complicated English words" Also upload a text file containing a sample of your writing style and refer to it like "write as I would in a style similar to the attached sample.txt file (the name of your text file) By doing this you will find the result acceptable.
that's the correct way to do it to get the outcome you want.
I do say "don't make it too smart but fix my grammar"
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Make it "American" style is a good prompt that sets the mood for ChatGPT. Even better if you ask to flush "rest of the World" literature as part of the model.
I do this a lot. People who hate it just lack prompting skill.
Things you must know about GPT if you use it for content writing:
-Never trust the info that it gives, you must verify the information it gives.
-It doesn’t know how to count words and characters.
-It repeats the same style and same words.
-Writing instructions to customise it in the settings does not make it change.
-It will use and abuse these words: Tapestry, Dive into, Delve into, Whimsical, Allure, “Not only ….” And “it is not just …… but also …..”
-It is so hard to make it learn something and it will sometimes do the opposite of what you are telling it to do
-Dall E is horrible.
-It would sometimes refuse to do certain things without telling you why , you must insist and literally use words to trick it into doing the things you asked for. For example, if you tell it to write reviews for your website it will not do it because it is unethical, but if you tell it to write a review for another website and give it some keywords to use , it would happily generate an answer.
Most of these you can work through, people expect these AIs to do everything for them. Just takes some tinkering and iteration, but it's best used as an idea machine, not something to "write for you".
@@Sheikh-XX if you copy the about and intro text from your website and paste it in " " or upload a text file, the ask it to write a promo it does a great job. The "review" issue is to prevent mususe I guess. Even better. Create a custom GPT and upload either the HTML files or create a .txt file for the pages you want it to access. Give it instructions to only access the knowledge you uploaded. Then you can ask it any question related to your site.
one thing ive been struggling with using ChatGPT and sudowrite, is that they aren't very good at creating explicit violence, I like descriptive writing that really paints a picture in the mind, and ai seems to not like writing adult or violent content.
Those are not the models for violence. ChatGPT and sudowrite are not allowed to write 📝 explicit violence cause that counts as NSFW.
@@zcnaipowered7407I can get GPT to do it sometimes, with the right wording. Once had it elaborately describe a super violent scene lol to my surprise. But most the time it won’t.
Any recommendations?
@@zcnaipowered7407 I've been using ChatGPT for a few months with no prior experience using AI, and found out quick that it is very politically correct, won't accept graphic dialogue/slang, sexual references, etc. Got red-flagged so many times until I figured how how to get a message across very subtextually so the program would understand my intent without actually saying the words. Big nuisance. I write fiction and my characters reflect a variety of human traits, not just the politically correct ones. And the polite scoldings for suggesting something it thinks in inappropriate... sheesh. I did start using Claude after seeing this video and have to say it didn't blush or bat an eye at some of my content.
lmao. bless ur heart.
Yeh. It won't do it. I asked it why and it said it may glorify or promote violence. So it's the thought police. I wanted it to talk about real news events that are stressing people out and NOT to promote it at all. But that's the thought police for you.
As a avid reader, (future dream of being a writer) I can recognize AI writing if its been done with GPT, mostly because I tried it for a few weeks to see how it worked. I mean, it helped me get out of a few slumps with ideas. But, the style is very recognizable. lol
(Just for fun, I had GPT rewrite what I wrote)
As an enthusiastic reader with aspirations of becoming a writer, I've developed a keen eye for AI-generated content, particularly when it's produced using GPT. I dabbled with it for a few weeks out of curiosity, and while it certainly aided me in overcoming some creative slumps, its distinct style remains unmistakable. It's kind of amusing, really, how easily recognizable it is!
Honestly Gemini is a must for me when it comes to brainstorming and outlining. I can do minimal prompting and it can still kick out some great loglines. Even when I use the M.I.C.E. framework it is great at just coming up with ideas and structuring an outline nicely. Writing is a hit and miss but it can copy my stream of consciousness style if I give it examples; but Claude 3 is overall the better actually writer but find it still is generic as chatgpt when it comes to brainstorming.
Claude really improved with version 3. Before, it used to go off on its own adventure unless you kept a tight rein on it. People who tried it before should come back and try again now. The top model is somewhat expensive though. People who use Novelcrafter may want to test a bit and see if they can afford it. I don't use it for things like summaries, chatting with my novel etc in Novelcrafter.
Claude3 Haiku isn't that expensive and can work well with a detailed outline.
GPT4o has an 18-month head start, all the other models are still in catch-up mode despite the hype and comparisons. Remember it takes 18 months to train models and costs multiple billions of dollars. Open source models simply do not have these resources.
All my prompts use the sentence “ensure it remains easy to read and understand” and every single time it gives me very human sounding replies. I’ve also since long accepted that it won’t write an entire book for you, as it shouldn’t, or even a chapter. I instruct it to write a few paragraphs at a time and build it from there, and Claude works excellent. Yes, it still requires a little editing, but fairly minimal, especially compared to others.
Very comprehensive and very accurate. Absolutely agree regarding Claude and some of the differences between the language models. Especially, for writers.
Don't tell me what to do.
😂
It's just a suggestion lol
Chat gpt replied
Lol
Spoken like a true A I
I'd like to see this kind of assessment of local LLMs for writing. How good are the AI models that can be run on your own PC, offline, for this kind of usage? Certainly not as competent as the big online versions like GPT4 and Claude3, but by how much?
I haven't finished "Out of Shadow" yet, but what I have read has me wishing that you were the DM for my weekly D&D game. I bet you could create some incredible homebrew adventures, if you haven't already.
Jason, thanks for sharing. With regards to novelcrafter, is there a way to make codex visible to everywhere in a series. For example if I have a series x with 3 books in the series, can I make the codex entries be visible in book 1 to book 3 (book 3 is work in progress). What I'm seeing is that the codex entries I made in book 1 is not visible in my book 3 dashboard. :-( I'm just wondering if there is some kind of setting which I need to tweak to achieve that. Thanks for you help in advance.
What can you recommend for listicle video script?
if the claude 3 llm is available thru openrouter and poe, what is the advantage of paying $20/mo through anthropic?
it looks like claude has got diffr. models.
Sonnet, opus...
for novelcraft the specialist plan has "Shared Series & Universes" and "Collaborative writing" Can you explain that?
Collaborative writing sounds like a blast.
I like people that go straight to the point. Thank you for that, sir. Some people travel to Asia Europe before getting to the point..
😂😂😂 you're right
Funny story, I once used Gemini to write a scene for a novel I’m working on. While I typically use strong language sparingly, one oc my characters does use it when he’s angry. There was one scene I gave Gemini to the affect of: “That whore who ran out on his father...” and it responded with, “I’m unable to help you with that.” I can’t stand anything or anyone censoring me. So thanks for pointing me to Openrouter!
I'm so in agreement with you. I hate censorship, or an AI's inability to help because of guidelines to "keep us safe." Please.
It's not only the censored words. We can be sure about AI firms all have trained their models on every bestselling book ever published. From there you can calculate probabilities of what it takes to have a hit. But you normal guy will never get access to this knowledge no matter how you prompt it. Another million greyed out options only the elites will be able to select.
My question is, is the Perplexity version of Claude as good? The GPT4 in Perplexity wasn’t as good at writing and chat as was ChatGPT in my tries. And in Copilot GPT4 was better than in ChatGPT.
i have done a lot of great work with GPT but it cant write like you did there. You would have to give it the scene already written then give it the directions then tell it to not use certain words. Like it loves to use the word 'stark' I just tell it not to use that word with a list of others and it is more down to earth. Or I have given it a paragraph and said to use the same style and continue writing and it does pretty good on this prompt but you need gpt4 i found 3.5 is never as good as 4
i use 3.5 to do flip pov or tenses. it doesnt change anything and does exactly what u ask it to. when i try this with claude, it rewrites the entire thing.
Claude has been amazing for me. I use it to frame my chapters and basically pick and choose what to keep/delete/modify. it built my outline based on my prompts. Giving it small portions of my outline with context has been the best.
What video camera are you using? Your video has vibrant colors and detailed sharpness.
You don't mention GPT-4 Turbo which I'm currently using in Novelcrafter, how does this compare with Claude 3?
Not great. Same issues.
Would love to see a video where you compare the purple prose from AI with your edited version that you feel is of higher quality. I've not yet published a book and didn't really have a problem with your sample Claude 3 output. I'm really what you would have produced instead.
Jimsworld San Diego said, "Assist me in rephrasing this narrative following my tailored guidelines (ChatGPT): At the break of dawn, a weary soldier meandered into a floral meadow. Every flower appeared to encapsulate a unique essence of beauty and tranquillity as if the earth offered a silent homage to the resilience of those who tread its paths. The soldier, whose heart was heavy with the burdens of battle, found an unexpected solace in the simple purity of the scene. With its vibrant hues and delicate form, each blossom seemed to whisper a message of hope and renewal directly to his soul."
Thanks. BTW Great lighting and image on screen. If you don't mind, please share camera/lens used.
Update to what I wrote below: seems Claude misunderstood my question--"are my chat sessions saved?" Claude's response: "Regarding our previous conversations, you are correct that they are not saved or persisted across sessions. Each conversation starts fresh, and I do not retain any memory of prior interactions. If you were told that sessions are not saved, that information was accurate."
Then I noticed when I accessed Claude again, there was a list of our previous sessions, and when I opened them, the complete session is there for me to pick up. I asked Claude again, point out that I understood it couldn't access our other sessions for context, but to verify that it could reference any info within a single session so I didn't have to start from scratch. Then Claude said it could and apologized profusely. I mean, what good is a program if it's set up like a convenience store, in and out with no ability to generate new/updated responses based on aggregated information within that chat? I didn't think my question was that complicated. So much for its interpretative skills...
One other thing: is there some way I haven't figured out yet to get chat to NOT respond until I'm finished "talking"'? I explain to it that I'm going to be writing a lot of info in individual chunks and to not respond until I'm finished. But each time I hit enter and continue with what I'm writing, it ignores my request to wait (I usually add wait until I say some code word) and starts jabbering away.
My original comment:
I've been using ChatGPT for about 6 months now. Your points about the prose is spot on. I haven't used it much for actually creating scenes or dialogue, mostly to check aspects like character motivation consistency, structure, various elements of writing. I just checked out Claude and was disappointed to find it doesn't save any of our conversations or sessions. Not sure how useful that will be.
just write on a seperate document, then copy and paste
The Problem with Claude 3 is the pricing isn't Justified compared to ChatGpt, $20 a month you get custom GPTS, Art Generation, while Claude 3 has vision, far better writing, no custom. I just think if it was priced at 14.99 it would dominate
How much is Claude right now?
With the exception of writers like J.R.R Tolkien and a few others that use exceptionally descriptive writing styles so you can virtually smell the moss on the rock.
Have you ever tried telling ChatGpt to rewrite something as a Human Being, when you do it passes all the written by AI checkers. lol
Claude is not available in Norway yet and as you share in the video, ChatGPT is not doing it for me. Any recommendations to use in combo with novelcrafter?
You answered it after I posted my comment 😎
Use VPN like I did
They require sms confirmation too.
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Claude uses almost all of the same clunky phrases, more dependent clauses, and has only marginally less "flowery " language .
I think it is better if you don't know what you want to write and are looking for the AI to riff off of your concept, but I would much rather have a model that will follow my instructions when I'm trying to write a specific scene or chapter.
I've found Gemini Advanced to be the best here for this, actually surprised me because it's a Google product after all. I've ditched GPT 4.5 in favor of Gemini Advanced and 1.5 Pro. Gemini Advanced seems to have a bigger context window, more coherency in recalling details, and an amazing drafting feature (and response editing), it's just better all around.
One thing I want to see more companies do is allow editing any prompts. Only ChatGPT seems to allow this, letting you edit even the very first prompt in a chat. Gemini only lets you edit the most recent prompt, and Claude 3 doesn't allow prompt editing at all. I'd pay 50 per month just to have an LLM that combines the best of all 3 services into one.
Gemini seems the best for prompt iteration too, it's shocking how good it is at following prompts and improving upon them. Maybe I'll come back to OpenAI once GPT-5 comes out. Or Claude 3, once Anthropic figures out how to integrate just 1% of ChatGPT's feature set.
The Claude 3 API is amazing, but asking for 20 per month for just the model alone for Chats is loony. I'd rather run a local LLaMA 2 model than rely on the basic Claude chats.
In my experence, Claude Instant is better for creative writing than GPT 4, Claude 2 or even Claude 3 Sonnet. I haven't tried Claude 3 Opus.
Where can I find your books?
What is the alternative?
Im still using it for my contents. I'd like to hear your thoughts about the humanizer Im using called Undetectable AI does it really work?
I'll switch from GPT4 to Claude as soon as they allow it in my country without needing a VPN or some third-party workaround.
I just hate Claude for how limited you can use it. I pay for it and I should not have a limit of what I type or brainstorm.
i prefer the third-party workaround. openrouter is so much better than using claude directly.
Thank you for a great video? Can Claude 3 be used to write children's books and scripts for cartoons?
I find that ChatGPT is fine. I keep my outlines and instructions very clear and simple, and the stuff that it spits out is completely fine. I use it purely for guidelines, and then completely rewrite what it's given me.
99% of the time, what I write is completely different to what ChatGPT provided.
Which one is the best for brainstorming story ideas and plotting?
Gemini and Claude 3 IMHO.
@@victoriavass9945 thanks I'll try those out
Do you have a recommendation for a non-fiction writer. I find Chat GPT hallucinations mean that I spend more time fact checking than it would take me to write the article manually. Even if I load specific data in the form of a .csv file by the end of it Chat GPT is either going out using other sources, making statistics up based on assumptions or a combination of both. Drives me nuts.
What about technical writting?
4:40 its interesting because it really is, but it depends on how specific you get.
The MAIN thing I have found Chat GPT beats all the other things at is... basic math and reasoning. Like you said its really good at following instructions. If you want to have an AI homework tutor I do not recommend anything other than Chat GPT, even the free version usually gets things right.
I think ChatGPT is good for many things but not creative writing. It's too limiting with its censorship. Things ChatGPT won't allow me to say or discuss, Claude 3 didn't blink an eye at.
chatgpt 4 is great for working with excel sheets, is there something else better out there?
I found that ChatGPT gives me better prose when I tell him to use "simple words that are easy to read". I have to edit all its mannerisms anyway, "a testament of", "a mix of", "determination", etc.
Hello! Can you give us a list of those mannerisms? I am just like you when I ask it to use simple and clear English, it works just fine.
"cacophony" is the one I have to edit the most for me lol. It just loves using that one for some reason.
"Testament" was one of my favourite bands. ChatGPT spoiled it for me now 😂😭🤘
ChatGPT = "He found SOLACE"
ME = Just change it to "peace". 😂😂😂
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I used Claude to help me write a beat sheet then an outline for my first novel. However, as I was testing various prompts and document uploads I have hit the "length limit for the chat" which is a bummer as it knows a lot about my world and plot. How can I get it to learn all this again with enough "length" left to drill into character arc and scene writing?
Question:
Does claude 3 browse the internet like chatgpt 4o?
Here I am, an old dog, but newbie to AI …and learning!
I do have four almost finished fiction novels (in Word…) siting at my HD for 10 years.
Now, retired for some 8 years, want to revamp these and publish on Amazon KDP
What would be the hint from you, experienced guys, to help me out in speeding up the process?
Tks lot!
I would publish them with barnes and noble instead. Amazon was literally illegally selling copies “used and new” under false names.
I knew it was them because it was the only place the books were published and there weren’t even that many copies on the open market.
I will never use them again.
Good day, what if you had a manuscript and you used Chat to rewrite Act 1 and fill in some gaps; and then you used Claude to do Act 2… Should I redo Act 1 in Claude?
Yes!
Thank you
the same in my case I switched from GPT4 into Claude 3 :)
how about use for technical writing?
tried joining your discord through the link on your video, it says unable to accept invite.
What about transactions? I am working on a poetry book which I am translating from Spanish to English..
CHATGPT is the primary reason I hired a writing coach. Because of the things that this video is discussing. Word count has never once been accurate for me. SudoWrite is expensive, repetitive and inaccurate. I started with ai but I’m drifting away from ai.
People need to stop calling it AI. It is just a program. They are all just programs.
What about copyright?
Wherebu at google keynote ?
Which AI model is best for movie script writing?
Excellent insight. Crisp and profound, thank you for sharing. I liked the example of showing your writing in the prompt and contrasting it with the ChatGPT output and commenting on the output, it was a learning moment. Thank you.
What about Jasper? Do you have a video on that?😊
Not my favorite.
Can you make a video about novelcraft for no fixing book?
if i use chatgpt wrting to publish on amazon kdp will it be detected??
You should label it as AI when you’re uploading it. Amazon won’t take it down unless it’s really poor quality.
I genuinely like Claude's writing style unmodified. Soon as it gets voice I'm hopping the fence from GPT.
Chat GPT is brilliant at writing fictions, creative, consistent and original... And I tried hundreds (HUNDREDS) of other AIs, many if them for Writing
wat does purple mean?
What purple prose mostly is that it supremely create such gloriously complex writing that…it gives streams of consciousness of such tenacious thought that you use adverbs indefinitely. Meanwhile the times purple prose mercilessly goes on and on and on that the prose gets really annoying.
In English: What purple prose is that it creates streams of consciousness that you use adverbs. Most times purple prose could go on and on that written prose could get annoying.
Is it possible to bring in already finished personal works to utilize for style? Would Novelcrafter be appropriate for fanfiction?
I've now swapped over from ChatGPT to Claude3 and seeing good results, but Chat keeps defaulting to GPT-4 Turbo. Maybe it was something I originally setup, do you know how I can set the Chat default to Claude 3? Thanks
I received this message from Novelcrafters Bot (not sure how to do this, but will have a go):
As of now, Novelcrafter does not allow you to set a different AI model as the default for the system prompt. However, you can create a custom prompt and include only the models you wish to use, such as Claude 3. To use Claude 3, you would need to customize the model list yourself since the default prompts in Novelcrafter are using Claude 2.0. When creating your custom prompt, you can denote Claude 3 by the appropriate identifier provided by OpenRouter, which you must integrate with Novelcrafter to access the Claude models. Remember to ensure that the "NSFW" toggle is not enabled for your prompt, as this would remove moderated models from the list. If you would like to see the feature of setting a specific AI model as the default, you can upvote the feature request on Novelcrafter's feedback page.
Chat GPT also copy from websites from Google, how do I make it write something afresh without pasting from Google help, I will also check out Claude if it's free thanks
Have more specific prompts.
Claude 3 had better be better than normal free Claude. Normal free Claude refused to even give me a description of the Pale Man (?) from Pan's Labyrinth, claiming to feel "uncomfortable" talking about such "sensitive" and "disturbing" subjects.
At least free ChatGPT did as I requested with no issues.
Fantastic video! Thank you for the Claude and Novelcrafter suggestions.
Chatgpt is a Smart Machine and always tells the Truth about everything.
I am paying for openAi key!
Any chance any lowcost alternative
openai is free. only costs if ur subscribed to gpt 4.
Am writing program alot with chat gpt, still the best for me, have tried another AI but got me up set for losng context when too much codes or different programing language involve
ChatGPT4 WAS INCREDIBLE in the beta. It spat out GOLD. After the beta it was nerfed into oblivion and censored.
so...a little bit off topic but is it okay to use this bot to help me make some books for profit? i'm in a tight spot atm where i can't find any jobs or anything else that won't take years or alot of money to invest into it. i only have 3 months before i get kicked out so a month of work to get a livable income (or part time income as i do have a job at the current moment) would be fine for now but i don't want people to think i'm just using ai on everything (especially since i'm planning on animating for my yt channel which could take years to make a living off of) so would it be worth it?
If you need to make money publishing ebooks is probably not the best way to make a quick buck. Being successful at publishing is usually a long game.
Hey thank you for these vids. very informative, what is your opinion on Perplexity ai? Can you make a video about it?
I have a solution: just use the prompt "Revise and make it simpler to read" or something to that affect. The trick is to emphasize to the tool to use simple revisionism.
Hi, The Nerdie Novelist I have been scouring the web for a text-to-video AI that won't break the bank to help me as a background to my Podcast. I'm currently serializing my novel, and I want to make a background video that matches the words, but the problem is that I can't find anything beyond 5 minutes. I need something that can handle at least 30 minutes, and that's affordable. Do you happen to know of any affordable software that I could use?
@2:23 - ohhh, I'm glad you said "Day" and not "D" ...thought you were going somewhere else with that for a beat haha
i had a go at testing ChatGPT's story writing ability .. it seems ok to me ...
> can you give me a badly written introductory paragraph to a story about robots?
ChatGPT said:
Sure! Here's a poorly written introductory paragraph to a story about robots:
"Once upon a time in the future, there was a lot of robots. They were all shiny and metal, doing robot things like beeping and walking around with their metal legs and arms. One day, one of the robots, named Robot X5-3A, decided that it was bored of beeping and walking. So it started doing other stuff, like thinking about stuff and, you know, looking at the sky. This was very surprising to all the other robots because robots don’t usually do that, but no one really cared much anyway."
Hope that fits the "badly written" bill!
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I've been playing with a fine-tuned GPT 3.5 model that I trained for use with Novelcrafter and I'm honestly rather shocked at some of what it produces... I haven't pushed it to test the limits, but on its own, it's generating some rather graphic violence (NOT part of my story, BTW, nor was that in the prompt... nor was anything like that in my source training data!) that I never expected to see from GPT. Stuff that I have no doubt would be flagged immediately by the OpenAI content filter API... It's consistently dark/edgy enough that I'm now using that FT model to create a synthetic data set (with manually curated scenes) to train a derivative model which will hopefully tone down the violent hallucinations...
On another note, Claude 3 is available in Canada now, API access at least.. I just started using it this week with LibreChat. :)
Hi! I used ChatGPT to analyze a trilogy I wrote. It's all original and in my own words. I asked ChatGPT to analyze it. It took about six hours but I gradually went through chapter by chapter my entire trilogy. It gave me what I think an advanced Beta Reader crit, or like a Developmental Edit. I don't know if I should take ChatGPT seriously but it was amazing as it listed every plot, characterization, narratives... goals I set out to do. It only told me to revise my chapter one in a moderate level. All of the rest it pointed out amazingly what was my intent as my story unfolded and my characters devleoped. ChatGPT liked it very much but I wonder if it is designed not to be harshly critical and to encourage rather than discourage etc. Have you used ChaGPT (I'm using 3.5 too) to analyze any original writing you've created? The way it sounded was like I'd written a great story. I like to think so but I wonder about ChatGPT from the standpoint of it as analyzing creative fiction. It did overall a nice analysis of the entirety of each of the three books and of the entire trilogy that I thought was phenomenal, but I'm only amateur ha!
@@mwj5368 love that!!
I agree and I have found Microsoft copilot is pretty much the same. I'd rather research myself and write unique as chatgpt even when you ask it to be more personalised info in a more human level it still writes the same stuff maybe slightly different as I find it frustrating
I agree it doesn’t do well in helping you write things out, but I do like it. I tell it in full detail what I want I let it write it out, but I know how to go back and edit.
That Claud 3 is useless, won't even let me register.
I haven't done anything with Minstrel large, I will have to give it a go. I know that Chat GPT or Claude Opus is very expensive on Open Router. I have been using Claude 3, although it gave me a refusal, I then entered the same thing, and it gave me what I wanted. I did thumbs down the refusal and complained. All because I wanted a gritty, dark outline. It could give me a PG-13 gritty, dark outline, and I could enhance it myself. But the refusals do get old.
That being said, I do agree that Claude 3 is the best. I dropped Claude when it was Claude 2, and went with Chat GPT 4. But Claude 3 came out, and I went back. Claude still has a ways to go, but I am glad that it's better than 2.
Excellent review and presentation of where we are today, very, vey useful for a writer with a block.
I have a feeling the difference: claud 3 was trained on copyrighted professional work only, where GPT 4 was trained on FANFIC + copyrighted work. oh, and 'novel crafter' looks likes it's just setting the system prompt, you can basically create something like this with cut and paste, or if you don't want to cut/paste, you could make a webapp in a weekend that does the same thing.
Can you submit your writing and have AI make it better?
Thank you!
Every chatbot is like a different tool. We just have to learn how to use them for different tasks. To me for now, Claude 3 is my recommendation.
Excellent videos thank you for the help and advice its very clear. I like writing people say i should write etc, any idea how to start especialy now AI can help with my gramar and spelling im ok with the words. I like putting a humar into every day situations lile being on a plane, i like the style of Clive James.
If you write a chapter and you ask it to edit and finish it for you the melodrama is kept to a minimum.
Please stop the background noise. Super annoying and unnecessary. Otherwise. Great content. Thanks
Why does the camera keep zooming in as if it's trying to accentuate something that just isn't there?
I don't think you can share links is channel name is Ai foundations
(CHAT GPT... ) "It's better than nothing." I laughed out loud at this part.
But how you distinguish between text fully generated by AI and text just improved by AI
Chat gpt is a tool, not a replacement