So I have some notes for anyone doing this because this is by far the best vid on this and I suck with a camera. The bearing race on the pulley side when you split the case it has tabs make sure to line them up😅 I found out the hard way. Also no one has mentioned anywhere about timing it. I didnt know either until I noticed it wasnt moving enough air for what it is and was making alot of noise. When you put the pistons back in move the swash plate all the way to one side so it engages with the bevel gear and look at the rod it should be straight and at tdc. Not sure if this is the way the factory would do it but it seems to have shut mine up and speed it up alot. Drilling the outlet a few drill bits bigger also helped it make more air volume. It fills my 50 gal system from zero to 90psi in about 2min this way before it was about 3min
I use tool oil in mine for my on board air it’s still working just perfect no issues original compressor from my 95 jeep grand Cherokee and I converted it 10 years ago no issues
I did this to the sanden on my Cherokee a few years ago. I drilled another hole in the housing next to the grease zerk and added a small vent. The compressor gets really hot during use so the pressure in that sealed housing was pushing the grease past the piston seals. Works great though after being vented.
@@bradfordcustoms7588 I wouldn't as the crank cases on these are supposed to be at working pressure. This may not sound important but I'm not familiar with these rings. They do look funky so I'd leave it sealed as working pressure is far above what we use them at and the case is made to be under pressure. I know mine moves lots of air and I dont see big losses at higher pressures so I'd say I'm not getting ring flutter. Most of the failures I found were either heat or rings not sealing. All the cases I found of ring failure had vented crank cases. Alot of these types of rings use the pressure on the back to even the pressure differential across the ring pack so it does hold to some things like these for sure. I will say I just recently cut some PVC pipe and glued it on with jb weld between the mounting posts and I have my drain after it. I just leave it cracked so it gets some flow and I can put my hand on it about 2min after a hard run painting a car. I believe these are probably the two best things you can do for it along with a high temp molly grease and drilling the outlet side a few bits bigger (I saw a gain in flow and loss in heat)
Where exactly did you glue the pvc and how big did you drill out the outlet? Thank you for this post. It sounds like you're really familiar with these and how to modify them.
Really cool man I’m trying figure out how to get my Toyota stuff working. Plan was to get it started 3 years ago but hay way she goes right. Hope I can use this to get a plan together 🤙🏾. Also please put down cardboard I’m having flashbacks of carburetor parts falling through my porch 😂
This looks similar to the Sanden 709 on 97-06 Jeep Wrangler etc and supposedly is 9cfm at 1000rpm. Extreme Outback also has some modified and ready that are similar. They advertise as 8cfm I believe
I'm thinking you could just put a catch basin in the pressure side to catch the oil, then have a valve on a timer that blows the oil in the vacuum line every so often.
Awesome video, one question is why connect the inlet to the intercooler? Is it because the compressor can’t draw it’s own air in or just for cooling purposes?
Been crazy busy with work but when I find spare time I’ll try and get an update video out on the truck I’m building. 79 f250 crew cab on a 2011 f250 chassis. Getting a compound turbo 6.7 cummins and will be on air ride and 35s. Should air out and sit on the tires then air up 10-12” to drive turn and tow
High power fan works very well keep damn Florida mosquitoes away. Lol Also, I was listening to the song you whistled a few times in your video today. Lol
I've just put a few drops of Aircompressor oil in the foam intake filter aver few trips. Never ever had an issue even filling up 8-12 of mi friends 44' super shapers in a row.
Since you’ve blocked the oil pass through do you not need to have an oil catch inline? I’m looking to do something like this to run air ride on my town car
So why couldn’t you just block of the head side with the 1/4-20 and fill other side with atf? That would keep it cool and you could tap a drain so that you can service it now and again? Has anyone tried it? I’m just hung up on the grease part.
I found your video to be very helpful. I'm getting ready to buy a a/c unit and I was wondering if that works with all of them. And when you convert them into air compressors will the clutch kick on and off stopping the air from exceeding the pressure of the tank. Or do I have to get something else to do that . Keep up the great videos you do a fantastic job on them . God Bless you and your family. 💪🏼💯👍👍🙏🙏✌😊✌
Could this be done with the LT1 94-96 smog air pump? Some people cancel that pump… I would use it to power my bags. My ac work on my car and I need it.
Bradford customs. Almost as bad as Columbia customs lol I’m over in Lake City man ran across your video figured I’d give you a shout appreciate the good information I’m going to do one for my ram 2500. How did it work out for you in the long run
@@bradfordcustoms7588 Baker, Bradford hell it’s all the same. Lol. Ok let me know when you. Maybe we can meet up and I’ll show ya what I’m trying to do.
Yea but then I have to constantly add oil and then catch the oil from the compressed air, then drain that oil and buy more. Grease is easier and less maintenance and has been proven to work well. We will see tho. If it dosnt work I’ll go back to the junk yard and get another and try oil
Been wanting to modify my air compressor in my garage so I can have enough air to use a sand blaster I'm thinking of taking 3 car compressors and hopefully that will fill my 60 gallon tank fast
In your analysis of CFM around the 10:35 mark, you didn't make any mention of pressure. Was the comparison of this compressor vs the cheap store bought one both at zero psi? 60psi?
I attempted to converted the pump cc to cfm but did not factor in the exponential growth of psi. So just assume I’m an idiot and was talking out my butt at that point lol several people have brought this to my attention and I’m not smart enough to figure that part out
@@bradfordcustoms7588 Thanks for the reply! I wonder if it's just a matter of factoring it by a compression ratio. Such as when you do a compression test on an engine it will never be higher than a certain PSI.
I want to know if this will hold up being ran every day for air ride and the guys I seen here on UA-cam that said they been running for 10yrs or more are just using them here and there on the trail to fill there own and buddy's tires witch is nothing like filling tanks 2 or 3 or more every day 365 days a yr and how long will it last? I'm build a air ride f350 with a dt360 and Allison 6 speed and np205 iv been thinking of trying one of these or a York 210 I just cant decide if i want to chance it I need more people using it everyday to see there thoughts. thanks for sharing
What’s a used 20$ compressor from the junkyard if it works for several years. I just didn’t want to run the load and slow viair stuff. Just like with anything that has bearings. If you keep them greased it will last a long time.
Yea that would work as well. Would have more oil blow by tho going to the compressed air would need to have a oil and water separator for the air before the tank
Yea that would work as well. Would have more oil blow by tho going to the compressed air would need to have a oil and water separator for the air before the tank
I would think the grease needs some kind of vent to prevent hydrolocking/ vacuum problems. Oil and a brass breather like my single piston would be a good option. The vdot compressor is a great choice, i want to upgrayedd! Thx
@@bradfordcustoms7588 This looks like a great idea. I'm considering to try this on a lift where we need compressed air. If you put oil in the back side of the pistons wouldn't it be sealed from the compressed air side?
Plus they are all teflon coated with high temp teflon style seals as well. Almost no actual metal on metal whatsoever... they're pretty incredible little pieces of engineering honestly.
Yo I have a Chevy Silverado 2004 1500 extended cab 2wd 4.7 liter and I converted a Saden SD7H15 into an onboard air compressor. I’m having difficulty on installing it, can u please help me out. I wud really appreciate it if u can
@@timenotwaisted3053 That makes sense. But what I was asking is if it has to be this compressor, or can any this style be converted. I probably should have worded it better.
@@nutsbolts1484 normal ac systems see pressures in the 400 range depending on Freon level and outside conditions. I plan to run my system at 150psi continuous. Will have a pressure switch that turns the pump on at 120psi and off at 150. Wi have a safety valve that releases at 175
if you had use a torque wrench spec and put it at back at the proper setting it called for and not the 30-60lbs your big ass wrench put down you might not had to remove shim. just saying!... you guys that are so proud of how clean and precise every thing is. Then when you get down to the assembly of some of the most critical Items and refuse to use a torque wrench?? It matters on a lot of close tolerance parts ,
I don’t refuse to use one, it just isn’t critical to me. It works just fine and is a fun side project. Feel free you use a torque wrench on yours. If I was selling this as a product then it would be torqued but I’m not so it’s fine. Do you know the proper torque spec to help other likeminded people like yourself?
So I have some notes for anyone doing this because this is by far the best vid on this and I suck with a camera. The bearing race on the pulley side when you split the case it has tabs make sure to line them up😅 I found out the hard way. Also no one has mentioned anywhere about timing it. I didnt know either until I noticed it wasnt moving enough air for what it is and was making alot of noise. When you put the pistons back in move the swash plate all the way to one side so it engages with the bevel gear and look at the rod it should be straight and at tdc. Not sure if this is the way the factory would do it but it seems to have shut mine up and speed it up alot. Drilling the outlet a few drill bits bigger also helped it make more air volume. It fills my 50 gal system from zero to 90psi in about 2min this way before it was about 3min
Thank you for the video man, i was unsure if i could convert one but your video is detailed dosent seem to bad.
thanks for making the guide! been holding onto a compressor to do this for a bit
Best detailed tutorial ever!!! Thanks man!!!
I use tool oil in mine for my on board air it’s still working just perfect no issues original compressor from my 95 jeep grand Cherokee and I converted it 10 years ago no issues
I did this to the sanden on my Cherokee a few years ago. I drilled another hole in the housing next to the grease zerk and added a small vent. The compressor gets really hot during use so the pressure in that sealed housing was pushing the grease past the piston seals. Works great though after being vented.
Yea I plan to do this before 100% install it.
How long has it been running and do you use it regularly?
@@bradfordcustoms7588 I wouldn't as the crank cases on these are supposed to be at working pressure. This may not sound important but I'm not familiar with these rings. They do look funky so I'd leave it sealed as working pressure is far above what we use them at and the case is made to be under pressure. I know mine moves lots of air and I dont see big losses at higher pressures so I'd say I'm not getting ring flutter. Most of the failures I found were either heat or rings not sealing. All the cases I found of ring failure had vented crank cases. Alot of these types of rings use the pressure on the back to even the pressure differential across the ring pack so it does hold to some things like these for sure. I will say I just recently cut some PVC pipe and glued it on with jb weld between the mounting posts and I have my drain after it. I just leave it cracked so it gets some flow and I can put my hand on it about 2min after a hard run painting a car. I believe these are probably the two best things you can do for it along with a high temp molly grease and drilling the outlet side a few bits bigger (I saw a gain in flow and loss in heat)
Where exactly did you glue the pvc and how big did you drill out the outlet? Thank you for this post. It sounds like you're really familiar with these and how to modify them.
@@oliverscorsimn88ᝡᝪ5ᝢ
When he start singing Outkast, So fresh and so clean is when I slapped the like button lol.
@begin1ngofend5 Like the old tv show name that tune....I for real had it on the second note he whistled too! Respect.
Really cool man I’m trying figure out how to get my Toyota stuff working. Plan was to get it started 3 years ago but hay way she goes right. Hope I can use this to get a plan together 🤙🏾. Also please put down cardboard I’m having flashbacks of carburetor parts falling through my porch 😂
Great Video. now i need 1 for my 03 tahoe air ride.
@23:09 those mosquitos were making me itchy just from watching - thanks for the video!
This looks similar to the Sanden 709 on 97-06 Jeep Wrangler etc and supposedly is 9cfm at 1000rpm. Extreme Outback also has some modified and ready that are similar. They advertise as 8cfm I believe
Nice workbench dude! Ha ha, great video btw, thanks.
I'm thinking you could just put a catch basin in the pressure side to catch the oil, then have a valve on a timer that blows the oil in the vacuum line every so often.
great video ---- instead of grease, how abaout gear oil ?
Is there any update on performance and longevity of this setup? I’m very curious
Awesome video, one question is why connect the inlet to the intercooler? Is it because the compressor can’t draw it’s own air in or just for cooling purposes?
I'm gonna need to see the project this is getting mounted to.
Been crazy busy with work but when I find spare time I’ll try and get an update video out on the truck I’m building. 79 f250 crew cab on a 2011 f250 chassis. Getting a compound turbo 6.7 cummins and will be on air ride and 35s. Should air out and sit on the tires then air up 10-12” to drive turn and tow
High power fan works very well keep damn Florida mosquitoes away. Lol
Also, I was listening to the song you whistled a few times in your video today. Lol
That’s the smallest workbench Ive ever seen…maybe you should have used the tailgate, lol.
"work truck"
Seriously. Let the dang tailgate down for crying out load.
beautiful dog
I've just put a few drops of Aircompressor oil in the foam intake filter aver few trips. Never ever had an issue even filling up 8-12 of mi friends 44' super shapers in a row.
I literally work right around the corner from you at air solutions. holy crap is it a small world
Dang that’s crazy what are the odds?!
Since you’ve blocked the oil pass through do you not need to have an oil catch inline? I’m looking to do something like this to run air ride on my town car
So why couldn’t you just block of the head side with the 1/4-20 and fill other side with atf? That would keep it cool and you could tap a drain so that you can service it now and again? Has anyone tried it? I’m just hung up on the grease part.
Makes me want to see if a dual ac compressor would fit, so I don't have to give up air conditioning
Mobil 1 synthetic wheel barring grease. Best for temp and wear.
Awesome video and when skidders are biting you try some wd 40 they hate it
I found your video to be very helpful. I'm getting ready to buy a a/c unit and I was wondering if that works with all of them. And when you convert them into air compressors will the clutch kick on and off stopping the air from exceeding the pressure of the tank. Or do I have to get something else to do that . Keep up the great videos you do a fantastic job on them . God Bless you and your family. 💪🏼💯👍👍🙏🙏✌😊✌
Thanks I appreciate it. You will need to wire in a pressure switch at the tank to controls a relay that powers the clutch on and off.
Just search for a 12v pressure switch. 90-120 are very common. 1/4 NPT is very common otherwise 1/8 NPT
You can convert most all compressors but it’s hard connecting to suction and discharge lines on some so the sanden and York are most peoples choice
I am waiting for part-2 hopefully you post it soon
I’ve got the base plate cut so far but havnt had much time. I plan to have it out soon tho
@@bradfordcustoms7588 DOOOOO IIITTTTT
Hi man. what a model compressor?
Could this be done with the LT1 94-96 smog air pump? Some people cancel that pump… I would use it to power my bags. My ac work on my car and I need it.
Bradford customs. Almost as bad as Columbia customs lol I’m over in Lake City man ran across your video figured I’d give you a shout appreciate the good information I’m going to do one for my ram 2500. How did it work out for you in the long run
Bradford is actually my middle man not my county lol I’m in Baker. But I havnt got it fully installed yet. Life happened and havnt touched it since
@@bradfordcustoms7588 Baker, Bradford hell it’s all the same. Lol. Ok let me know when you. Maybe we can meet up and I’ll show ya what I’m trying to do.
Hi very nice video I learnt so much from you but i think if you will pout oil in place of Greece is will much better 😉 thanks
Yea but then I have to constantly add oil and then catch the oil from the compressed air, then drain that oil and buy more. Grease is easier and less maintenance and has been proven to work well. We will see tho. If it dosnt work I’ll go back to the junk yard and get another and try oil
Would love to see a part 2 with install into vehicle and plumbing the tank and all that stuff
Unfortunately it will be several months until I can get to that but that is the plan.
I have a couple vids that show the basics of an onboard air kinda portable setup that shows/lists parts etc, just a different compressor setup
IDEA!! truck tailgate makes for a good workbench.
Latch was broken lol
Been wanting to modify my air compressor in my garage so I can have enough air to use a sand blaster I'm thinking of taking 3 car compressors and hopefully that will fill my 60 gallon tank fast
Theoretically that should give you almost 30cfm
Let me know how that works I was thinking about doing the same thing with my 60 gal compressor please and thank you
In your analysis of CFM around the 10:35 mark, you didn't make any mention of pressure. Was the comparison of this compressor vs the cheap store bought one both at zero psi? 60psi?
Full disclosure I was winging those calculations and have no idea. I’m sure there is a formula for it but that I do not know.
I attempted to converted the pump cc to cfm but did not factor in the exponential growth of psi. So just assume I’m an idiot and was talking out my butt at that point lol several people have brought this to my attention and I’m not smart enough to figure that part out
@@bradfordcustoms7588 Thanks for the reply! I wonder if it's just a matter of factoring it by a compression ratio. Such as when you do a compression test on an engine it will never be higher than a certain PSI.
You should sell these.
I want to know if this will hold up being ran every day for air ride and the guys I seen here on UA-cam that said they been running for 10yrs or more are just using them here and there on the trail to fill there own and buddy's tires witch is nothing like filling tanks 2 or 3 or more every day 365 days a yr and how long will it last? I'm build a air ride f350 with a dt360 and Allison 6 speed and np205 iv been thinking of trying one of these or a York 210 I just cant decide if i want to chance it I need more people using it everyday to see there thoughts. thanks for sharing
What’s a used 20$ compressor from the junkyard if it works for several years. I just didn’t want to run the load and slow viair stuff. Just like with anything that has bearings. If you keep them greased it will last a long time.
Yeah I live in az . I couldn’t do this. I wish tho
Waiting for the part-2
Do you think it could be set up with gear oil bath an a vent where you were talking about putting a grease fitting?
Yea that would work as well. Would have more oil blow by tho going to the compressed air would need to have a oil and water separator for the air before the tank
Yea that would work as well. Would have more oil blow by tho going to the compressed air would need to have a oil and water separator for the air before the tank
I would think the grease needs some kind of vent to prevent hydrolocking/ vacuum problems. Oil and a brass breather like my single piston would be a good option. The vdot compressor is a great choice, i want to upgrayedd! Thx
@@absolootzer075 yes sir that’s the plan. Going to open it back up and add a vent to help with blow by and keep everything happy
@@bradfordcustoms7588 This looks like a great idea. I'm considering to try this on a lift where we need compressed air. If you put oil in the back side of the pistons wouldn't it be sealed from the compressed air side?
What lubes the cylinder walls to keep o rings on pistons from wearing out?
The grease on the back side of the pistons...
@@steveycapri I was thinking that but I figured once it gets hot it would run down to the bottom and sit against the base plate
@@Tilley52 in theory there should be enough grease in it to act as a oil bath and splash the liquified grease around inside the case
Plus they are all teflon coated with high temp teflon style seals as well. Almost no actual metal on metal whatsoever... they're pretty incredible little pieces of engineering honestly.
You can also add an oiler hard line and a drain back to valve cover in the crankcase side like a Turbo uses
Wheres the part 2?
Yo I have a Chevy Silverado 2004 1500 extended cab 2wd 4.7 liter and I converted a Saden SD7H15 into an onboard air compressor. I’m having difficulty on installing it, can u please help me out. I wud really appreciate it if u can
Still have the Comanche available?
No sir it’s been sold
The little 30 usd 12 v air compressor do tje job, I use it all tje time. And it doesnt draw hp from tje engine
Is there a specific reason that this exact compressor is used, or can any old a/c compressor be converted?
Yes he's using that model because it can be run oil free. Using grease instead so the air it's pumping stays clean.
@@timenotwaisted3053
That makes sense. But what I was asking is if it has to be this compressor, or can any this style be converted. I probably should have worded it better.
Use Toyota prius compressor, it has built-in motor.
Now make that compressed air run back into your engine
Good speak
What if you just put some epoxy putty on that hole you threaded
How much psi could this sustain?
Well ac systems run at 400ish psi. Guess it would depend on what your lines and tank are rated for. I plan to govern it at 150 psi
@@bradfordcustoms7588
Is that continuous running at 400psi or 150psi?
Thanks
@@nutsbolts1484 normal ac systems see pressures in the 400 range depending on Freon level and outside conditions. I plan to run my system at 150psi continuous. Will have a pressure switch that turns the pump on at 120psi and off at 150. Wi have a safety valve that releases at 175
I wonder what kind of volume they are capable of.
Why did you sit all this on the nice paint job??
😂 And here I thought I was distracted that he didn’t open the tailgate and have someone else hold the camera.
it's 12/10/2022 is is every thing all right
Wished I had an answer for you. It got put on the shelf right after this video. We had a baby and that project has been put on hold.
Chamfer as in Champagne or Charlotte
Not Chicken or Cherokee
Bonjour
Such a cool video then I saw the crocs... 🤢
Missing out my guy.
if you had use a torque wrench spec and put it at back at the proper setting it called for and not the 30-60lbs your big ass wrench put down you might not had to remove shim. just saying!... you guys that are so proud of how clean and precise every thing is. Then when you get down to the assembly of some of the most critical Items and refuse to use a torque wrench?? It matters on a lot of close tolerance parts ,
I don’t refuse to use one, it just isn’t critical to me. It works just fine and is a fun side project. Feel free you use a torque wrench on yours. If I was selling this as a product then it would be torqued but I’m not so it’s fine. Do you know the proper torque spec to help other likeminded people like yourself?
Bonjour
bon soir