Build a "fixed roof" dome stadium. An indoor facility would generate a lot of revenue for the Buffalo & Erie County by hosting multiple events all year long. Rather have snow games for tradition?... or payoff the billion dollar facility that benefits the city all year, every year?... PLUS! Keep the Pegulas from scheming a clause that would include building a new arena for the Sabres
Teams that gave up cold weather advantage line up on scrap help. See Lions and Vikings histories indoors . Compare to Giants , Steelers with open air stadiums .
As an Los Angeles vet....(So-Fi) Stadium....I hope the Bills fans put the Stadium Downtown Buffalo. IT will cost more initially, but bring MORE money, tourists, Big Events, Hotels, etc. When the team is way away from Downtown...it seems to separate the city vets from the county vets. Ask NY Giants fans.
Putting it in the city makes no sense. In Orchard Park, you have huge parking lots already, and even more land from ECC South campus right next door to the Ralph(which is closing), and EVEN MORE land once the Ralph is demolished, strong enough sewer systems, the fieldhouse, and traffic in Orchard Park isn't even bad. And isn't the reason the Ralph was built in Orchard Park that there wasn't room in the city?
-"less tail-gating options" Well no shit, not every downtown stadium needs a million parking spaces for more car centric travel -"Eccentric infrastructure improvements" How exactly is that a bad thing? This stadium would prevent these improvements from being put off for longer, plus a light rail expansion is long overdue Also how tf does this shit take so long to build? it took them a little over 1 year to build the entire empire state building, you're telling me you cant get your head out of your ass to build a stadium at like 2 years tops? No wonder we cant get shit done as a country anymore
I live .3 miles away from this site, and I couldn’t agree more. Especially the last bit. How TF would it take longer here then in LA or Vegas? I’ll tell you why, unions, the mafia ( criminal Italians not bills mafia) and NYS.
@@Colls716 It's not about hosting a Super Bowl but rather hosting multiple events all year long. Think about it: NCAA 🏀 & 🏒 tourneys; Bowl games; concerts; WrestleMania; Monster Jam; emergency shelter?... In the broad scope of things, a dome 🏟️ would make up for a good portion of the costs overruns over time whilst generating more revenue for Erie County.
@@pepsi_man4962 cus the superbowl is in February every year. And its Freezing temperatures around that time. Usually When a team builds a stadium they’re likely to host a superbowl but i doubt thay happens after the one im NY was terrible lol
Even if it cost more for a downtown location, it will still generate a lot of revenue to the city than in Orchard Park location. As an investor, I prefer the stadium in downtown area.
I’m from Pittsburgh, and bringing it downtown would bring a lot more revenue for downtown. Also putting close to a waterfront would cause unlimited growth for the city
Its utterly meaningless unless there is a Dome or retractable roof. Buffalo in Nov, Dec and Jan with Snow and Ice storms, Blizzards and that Wind off the Lake with fans freezing their behinds off.
@@Colls716 it's not your money. Anyhow it's not about getting a SB it's about fans watching a game in comfort Winter time instead of being freezing cold. Nfl is awash with money it will happen
@@mickser101 well some people don't even care about the weather. Some actually like cold weather lol. I was at the Pats Monday night game and it was almost sold out, even with the wind making it seem like it was below zero degrees
I get too much of the Seattle Seahawks vibe from the initial design. If I could introduce an idea 💡 Build a Bowl stadium similar to the Packers with corporate boxes and room to expand above the corporate boxes Then if you need to add a giant canopy over it later, you can, just make sure that it retains classic Bills traditions in it's construction
There wasn’t tailgating at the Rockpile. There wasn’t any parking to speak of either. Downtown needs new infrastructure, but the traffic would be a nightmare.
Build in Cobblestone for near identical $$$. This would require next to NO INFRASTRUCTURE improvements . Date for opening given today (deal announced today 3-28-22) was start of 26 season. This newscast said 27 obviously 1 yr different. Frankly I billeive there's space built into the different $$$ cost.
I hate when they start talking dollars and cents like it won't be insanely over budget. It'll be finished 3 months behind schedule too. That's IF it gets built.
Oh yeah it better be in downtown Buffalo that will be the perfect spot for the BILLS stadium heck who cares about the tailgating aleast we got a new and improved beautiful stadium
@@tleoipl37 You be playing the foozeball? It would be cool if Bobby Boucher could play for the Bills. His instant fan appeal could pay for the new stadium!
Love the design but this won't work for Buffalo NY. US Bank stadium in Minneapolis would be a more desirable design. Good luck trying to host an outdoor superbowl in Buffalo in February.
Their not trying to host a Super Bowl it’s about tradition dome stadium are really boring open air stadium is what football was and should alway be about snow games are fun to watch just like in the uk and over seas with their football stadium when it rains. Americans are to self entitled and pampered if you want warmth then stay home and watch. Going to games with cold weather is what makes them fun and exciting domes stadiums is like arena football plus the bills fans don’t seem to have a problem with the cold and snow nor the giants, steelers,packer,and the patriot’s.
Keep it in Orchard Park. Tradition, better access to fans who live outside the city or main suburbs & it will have the old stadium to use as additional parking. Infrastructure costs can go up especially in older city neighborhoods. It might be a $300+ million estimate now but as they start to improving it those costs will definitely go up as they find unexpected surprises so that will inflate the costs & the Pegulas are responsible for cost overruns. Also the intersection by the old & new stadium leads out to any direction so fans have options which way to go home.
Why does everyone in these comments seem to voice all the things that make perfect sense to do with this stadium but the idiots in charge don't seem to have a clue
A dome stadium would give Buffalo the opportunity to host multiple events all year long. A sacrifice for snow games, yes. BUT, in hindsight, the amount of revenue the city could bring in from NCAA tourneys to concerts and other events (WrestleMania?) would be a HUGE payoff!
It's going to be freezing and so dumb to not dome it. I understand that might cost another $1 billion dollars, but for better revenue and fan experience you dome it.
Best place to build it is orchard park. Field house, strong-enough sewer systems, and huge parking lots are already there. Build it across the street from the Ralph, then turn the Ralph into a parking lot
Bruh just build it in Orchard Park. More space and better infrastructure, and overall less expensive. Build it next door to the Ralph, then turn the Ralph into a parking lot
I’m all for a new stadium but I’m not in for a new stadium if you don’t put a roof on it. That just defeats the purpose of having these new stadium talks. We all want a dome. We don’t want our taxes going higher to build the exact stadium we already have. It’s already high enough living in this state. If we are getting a new stadium it must have a roof
Exactly. I want a modern 21st century stadium in The City of Buffalo or no stadium at all. This whole thing is a scam in my opinion and is just all political.
@@pepsi_man4962 idc where they put it but I don’t want it if they aren’t putting a roof on it. People say the snows an advantage but it’s not. Looks what happened against a lot of games this year we lost because we can’t even play in our own weather. Roof or no stadium
@@jonnysnipes3123 They are just trying to make it a cheap penny pinch of a stadium. And the reason I also brought up building it in Buffalo is because I just think it would be a better decision economically because tbh I don’t want to be paying taxes towards a stadium that is not going to benefit the city of Buffalo. Yk? And I 100% agree with you about an enclosed stadium because we need one lol.
You don’t need a stadium for economic development butttt a stadium would massively help so why wouldn’t you build a new one in downtown with a dome?????
@@pepsi_man4962 a downtown stadium would be a shit show. There's no room, and its just overall cheaper to build another one in orchard park. That's why we built the current one in Orchard Park lol
@@Colls716 I know but it isn’t the 1970s anymore Buffalo is seeing a resurgence and a stadium in Buffalo would only help the resurgence even more. You are entitled to your own opinion and I respect your opinion 100% bro but I also want my tax dollars going towards a project that will benefit Buffalo in the long run.
I'm old school keep Buffalo as an outdoor venue no dome,Minnesota hasn't been to a SB 1976 since moving into a dome it's a tremendous home field advantage when soft warm weather or dome teams come into Orchard park in December or January. Last NFL game I went to was in the 1990's Marino and the Dolphins came into Buffalo and got crushed in the snow.
It's not an advantage for us we can't even play in that bullshit snow you see the Bengals smacked our asd in it we couldn't do shit in the snow Josh Allen even said he don't like playing in that shit
Better get some private funding then. This is because the people of NYC, as well as others in NY, will not be happy with paying for this. Jets fans paying for a stadium for a division rival? They will be pissed off and I don't blame them. Governor Hochul will do better to use that money to help all New Yorkers. There are more important priorities than a new stadium for the Bills.
Von miller was a waste unless we win super bowl this year VON MILLER is putting on a good face and going to laugh at our organization in buffalo when he freaking leaves with 120 million dollars 💵😳contract and still never a super bowl 🏈win NEVER A SUPER BOWL WIN MARK MY F WORDS WE ARE JUST A FARM TEAM TO NATIONAL FIXED LEAGUE
@@pepsi_man4962 I agree, they're idiots. If you gonna spend a billion dollars for a stadium BUILD A DOME so the facility is not sitting empty 60% of the time each year
@@Dept246 orchard park is 100% the way to go lol. Already has huge parking lots, strong sewer systems from the current stadium, the field house is right there, and I'm pretty sure they built the Ralph in OP because of the lack of space in the city lol
Yes because quite frankly what I’m seeing from this chat tbh Buffalo doesn’t deserve a football team anymore. Everyone is just so stupid wanting a stadium in Orchard Park without a dome. Lmao
Build a "fixed roof" dome stadium.
An indoor facility would generate a lot of revenue for the Buffalo & Erie County by hosting multiple events all year long. Rather have snow games for tradition?... or payoff the billion dollar facility that benefits the city all year, every year?...
PLUS! Keep the Pegulas from scheming a clause that would include building a new arena for the Sabres
Build on the old stadium
Teams that gave up cold weather advantage line up on scrap help.
See Lions and Vikings histories indoors .
Compare to Giants , Steelers with open air stadiums .
As an Los Angeles vet....(So-Fi) Stadium....I hope the Bills fans put the Stadium Downtown Buffalo. IT will cost more initially, but bring MORE money, tourists, Big Events, Hotels, etc. When the team is way away from Downtown...it seems to separate the city vets from the county vets. Ask NY Giants fans.
Putting it in the city makes no sense. In Orchard Park, you have huge parking lots already, and even more land from ECC South campus right next door to the Ralph(which is closing), and EVEN MORE land once the Ralph is demolished, strong enough sewer systems, the fieldhouse, and traffic in Orchard Park isn't even bad. And isn't the reason the Ralph was built in Orchard Park that there wasn't room in the city?
Buffalo is not Los Angeles. It's also not New York City. It's a much smaller city that does not get the tourism that L.A. and NYC does.
-"less tail-gating options" Well no shit, not every downtown stadium needs a million parking spaces for more car centric travel
-"Eccentric infrastructure improvements" How exactly is that a bad thing? This stadium would prevent these improvements from being put off for longer, plus a light rail expansion is long overdue
Also how tf does this shit take so long to build? it took them a little over 1 year to build the entire empire state building, you're telling me you cant get your head out of your ass to build a stadium at like 2 years tops? No wonder we cant get shit done as a country anymore
I live .3 miles away from this site, and I couldn’t agree more. Especially the last bit. How TF would it take longer here then in LA or Vegas? I’ll tell you why, unions, the mafia ( criminal Italians not bills mafia) and NYS.
Try building on the old stadium ..
Build The Dome!
Dude we're not trying to host a super bowl
@@Colls716 wdym but that comment?
@@GlennRA3 Bills are for Texas
@@Colls716 It's not about hosting a Super Bowl but rather hosting multiple events all year long.
Think about it: NCAA 🏀 & 🏒 tourneys; Bowl games; concerts; WrestleMania; Monster Jam; emergency shelter?...
In the broad scope of things, a dome 🏟️ would make up for a good portion of the costs overruns over time whilst generating more revenue for Erie County.
@@pepsi_man4962 cus the superbowl is in February every year. And its Freezing temperatures around that time. Usually When a team builds a stadium they’re likely to host a superbowl but i doubt thay happens after the one im NY was terrible lol
Even if it cost more for a downtown location, it will still generate a lot of revenue to the city than in Orchard Park location. As an investor, I prefer the stadium in downtown area.
great design but its best to build indoor not outdoor... the snow problem obviously
No cuz we embrace it and it gives us an amazing advantage against teams who aren’t used to play in the cold
@@williamallard6396 if so unless it’ll be like SB48 MetLife that they did put the heat on field like fire pit.
@@Revealonlight buddy buffalo isn't trying to host a sb
If it was indoor then SB
@@Revealonlight more factors than just that. Practice space for both teams, has to have at least 70,000 seats
I’m from Pittsburgh, and bringing it downtown would bring a lot more revenue for downtown. Also putting close to a waterfront would cause unlimited growth for the city
Its utterly meaningless unless there is a Dome or retractable roof. Buffalo in Nov, Dec and Jan with Snow and Ice storms, Blizzards and that Wind off the Lake with fans freezing their behinds off.
Well it's not like we're trying to host a superbowl
@@Colls716 it's not your money. Anyhow it's not about getting a SB it's about fans watching a game in comfort Winter time instead of being freezing cold. Nfl is awash with money it will happen
@@mickser101 well some people don't even care about the weather. Some actually like cold weather lol. I was at the Pats Monday night game and it was almost sold out, even with the wind making it seem like it was below zero degrees
@@mickser101 don’t even reply to that guy because he’s delusional
@@pepsi_man4962 what's that bud
Dome or a Convertible roof so we can have a Super Bowl
Buffalo will never have a Super Bowl, even with a roof.
@@aaronlewis2501 Wrong. Build a new stadium and the NFL will let you host a Super Bowl. Detroit, Minnesota and Indianapolis are examples.
I get too much of the Seattle Seahawks vibe from the initial design.
If I could introduce an idea 💡
Build a Bowl stadium similar to the Packers with corporate boxes and room to expand above the corporate boxes
Then if you need to add a giant canopy over it later, you can, just make sure that it retains classic Bills traditions in it's construction
A dome could attract the Super Bowl
We have enough stadiums for the superbowl, and football is an outdoor sport…
I really hope it's an outdoor stadium. Snow games are the best
Need a roof unless you think this staff is going to create a new team somehow
Football is an outdoor sport..
it needs to be indoors.
Nah
This person does not watch football if he wants football to be played indoors
There wasn’t tailgating at the Rockpile. There wasn’t any parking to speak of either. Downtown needs new infrastructure, but the traffic would be a nightmare.
Build in Cobblestone for near identical $$$. This would require next to NO INFRASTRUCTURE improvements . Date for opening given today (deal announced today 3-28-22) was start of 26 season. This newscast said 27 obviously 1 yr different. Frankly I billeive there's space built into the different $$$ cost.
I just heard an agreement was reached to build the new stadium adjacent to the Ralph?
I hate when they start talking dollars and cents like it won't be insanely over budget. It'll be finished 3 months behind schedule too. That's IF it gets built.
Put it downtown Buffalo will thrive think about the tourist Buffalo needs to be in Buffalo and give Josh a dome please.
I’m surprised you guys up in Buffalo are wasting all that underdeveloped waterfront, it’s going to waste.
Oh yeah it better be in downtown Buffalo that will be the perfect spot for the BILLS stadium heck who cares about the tailgating aleast we got a new and improved beautiful stadium
Not a Dome! Someone is not using their DOME with that decision.
They need to stay outdoors but build the stadium near downtown
Now that's a fancy Foozeball field where Bobby Boucher can play the Foozeball with his fancy Foozeball friends.
Foozeball is the devil
@@tleoipl37 You be playing the foozeball? It would be cool if Bobby Boucher could play for the Bills. His instant fan appeal could pay for the new stadium!
Why no dome
75,000 or more not 60,000 other than that nice proposal
Love the design but this won't work for Buffalo NY. US Bank stadium in Minneapolis would be a more desirable design. Good luck trying to host an outdoor superbowl in Buffalo in February.
Their not trying to host a Super Bowl it’s about tradition dome stadium are really boring open air stadium is what football was and should alway be about snow games are fun to watch just like in the uk and over seas with their football stadium when it rains. Americans are to self entitled and pampered if you want warmth then stay home and watch. Going to games with cold weather is what makes them fun and exciting domes stadiums is like arena football plus the bills fans don’t seem to have a problem with the cold and snow nor the giants, steelers,packer,and the patriot’s.
Things changed.
Keep it in Orchard Park. Tradition, better access to fans who live outside the city or main suburbs & it will have the old stadium to use as additional parking. Infrastructure costs can go up especially in older city neighborhoods. It might be a $300+ million estimate now but as they start to improving it those costs will definitely go up as they find unexpected surprises so that will inflate the costs & the Pegulas are responsible for cost overruns.
Also the intersection by the old & new stadium leads out to any direction so fans have options which way to go home.
It's being built in OP
Why does everyone in these comments seem to voice all the things that make perfect sense to do with this stadium but the idiots in charge don't seem to have a clue
Actually a nice design, I'm based on these comments one of the few who are opposed to a dome
I'm on the fence for a retractable dome, simply cuz it's like and extra 1 billion dollars
Yeah same because I'd miss the snow games
A dome stadium would give Buffalo the opportunity to host multiple events all year long. A sacrifice for snow games, yes. BUT, in hindsight, the amount of revenue the city could bring in from NCAA tourneys to concerts and other events (WrestleMania?) would be a HUGE payoff!
@@MarloSoBalJr who cares about other stupid events. You probably don’t even watch football
It's going to be freezing and so dumb to not dome it. I understand that might cost another $1 billion dollars, but for better revenue and fan experience you dome it.
Change the name to Orchard Park Bills.
Tell the governor of NY “Orchard Park is not the Bills only choice.” /
Best place to build it is orchard park. Field house, strong-enough sewer systems, and huge parking lots are already there. Build it across the street from the Ralph, then turn the Ralph into a parking lot
Why would you build a new stadium in Buffalo… pay billions and not make it indoor… makes no sense
Yeah it does. Since when was football an indoor sport?
Bruh just build it in Orchard Park. More space and better infrastructure, and overall less expensive. Build it next door to the Ralph, then turn the Ralph into a parking lot
Can we get our passing offense a roof ffs
Why? Last year it was 7 degrees with 30mph winds and Allen was 21-24 for 308yds.
Gabe davis on covid reserve...
I’m all for a new stadium but I’m not in for a new stadium if you don’t put a roof on it. That just defeats the purpose of having these new stadium talks. We all want a dome. We don’t want our taxes going higher to build the exact stadium we already have. It’s already high enough living in this state. If we are getting a new stadium it must have a roof
Exactly. I want a modern 21st century stadium in The City of Buffalo or no stadium at all. This whole thing is a scam in my opinion and is just all political.
@@pepsi_man4962 idc where they put it but I don’t want it if they aren’t putting a roof on it. People say the snows an advantage but it’s not. Looks what happened against a lot of games this year we lost because we can’t even play in our own weather. Roof or no stadium
@@jonnysnipes3123 They are just trying to make it a cheap penny pinch of a stadium. And the reason I also brought up building it in Buffalo is because I just think it would be a better decision economically because tbh I don’t want to be paying taxes towards a stadium that is not going to benefit the city of Buffalo. Yk? And I 100% agree with you about an enclosed stadium because we need one lol.
I'm sick of domes stadiums it takes away the true game of football I say no dome
@@deathbecomesboleyn6530 I say sell the bills than
Urban economic development...you don't need a stadium to do that.
Orchard park>>>>
You don’t need a stadium for economic development butttt a stadium would massively help so why wouldn’t you build a new one in downtown with a dome?????
@@pepsi_man4962 a downtown stadium would be a shit show. There's no room, and its just overall cheaper to build another one in orchard park. That's why we built the current one in Orchard Park lol
@@Colls716 I know but it isn’t the 1970s anymore Buffalo is seeing a resurgence and a stadium in Buffalo would only help the resurgence even more. You are entitled to your own opinion and I respect your opinion 100% bro but I also want my tax dollars going towards a project that will benefit Buffalo in the long run.
I'm old school keep Buffalo as an outdoor venue no dome,Minnesota hasn't been to a SB 1976 since moving into a dome it's a tremendous home field advantage when soft warm weather or dome teams come into Orchard park in December or January.
Last NFL game I went to was in the 1990's Marino and the Dolphins came into Buffalo and got crushed in the snow.
Yeah but it’s a new era..now closed stadiums in the Midwest can host more events throughout the year and bring in more revenue to the city
It's not an advantage for us we can't even play in that bullshit snow you see the Bengals smacked our asd in it we couldn't do shit in the snow Josh Allen even said he don't like playing in that shit
So our bills will get a new stadium but never a super bowl win I see freaking rigged garbage
That shit better be indoor, it’s cold as hell out there
🤣🤣yup just like the new bridge from Buffalo to Canada never going to happen, pipe dream
Better get some private funding then. This is because the people of NYC, as well as others in NY, will not be happy with paying for this. Jets fans paying for a stadium for a division rival? They will be pissed off and I don't blame them. Governor Hochul will do better to use that money to help all New Yorkers. There are more important priorities than a new stadium for the Bills.
Large stadiums like these are a huge waste of land when built close to a large city center. hopefully they pick the Orchard Park location.
Von miller was a waste unless we win super bowl this year VON MILLER is putting on a good face and going to laugh at our organization in buffalo when he freaking leaves with 120 million dollars 💵😳contract and still never a super bowl 🏈win NEVER A SUPER BOWL WIN MARK MY F WORDS WE ARE JUST A FARM TEAM TO NATIONAL FIXED LEAGUE
Too bad it won't be ready for the World Cup. Would be nice for its first international event.
Build A Fuckin Dome DAMN
Tell me about it.. half the people in this chat are delusional and think an Orchard Park dome-less stadium will be a good thing.
@@pepsi_man4962 I agree, they're idiots. If you gonna spend a billion dollars for a stadium BUILD A DOME so the facility is not sitting empty 60% of the time each year
Put it in Orchard Park, enough with the idiotic downtown nonsense. Its a great legendary atmosphere out in OP, let it continue. Lets go Bills!
Let’s put it in East Aurora…….
Yep, Bills fans travel by car.
Keep it in orchard park… build better infrastructure there. The downtown bills stadium will be horrible and expensive keep it in OP.
More space too. Build the new one next door and turn the Ralph into a parking lot
Ask the people who buy the tickets to Bills games where they prefer the stadium. I bet most would say Orchard Park because of the parking.
@@Dept246 orchard park is 100% the way to go lol. Already has huge parking lots, strong sewer systems from the current stadium, the field house is right there, and I'm pretty sure they built the Ralph in OP because of the lack of space in the city lol
@@Dept246 Orchard Park is better. Why go through the trouble when the space and nuisance of city traffic when you have everything already there
ORCHARD PARK
DOME or move the team to (hahahahahaha) Toronto
Yes because quite frankly what I’m seeing from this chat tbh Buffalo doesn’t deserve a football team anymore. Everyone is just so stupid wanting a stadium in Orchard Park without a dome. Lmao
Circle the wagons, ladies and gentlemen, the Buffalo Bills will remain in Orchard Park for a new stadium 🏟. Yess!!