I wondered about that, because you can look at the client side code in the browser debugger while the application is running you need to be careful about what information you process on the client side. So, you have to be really careful to design your applications to keep the sensitive data only on the server side/php side and make sure only non-sensitive information is being processed by the client side -- like you said, much more complicated than just having all sensitive data and the html rendered on the server side.
Postsql is similar to mysql but not a popular as a entry level database. express doesn't really play well with relational databases as much as nosql like mongo. What I really prefer is to get a project out and about with an entire stack that works really well together.
Dont you need a Frontend framework like react for practicaly reload the page without refresh? Many still use jquery with php. Isnt it a bit autdated? Would you use react with php?
First question, do you really need to reload the page without refresh? The problem with frontend backend is that I don't see the value for the technical debt. I would use Vue.js on certain pages but otherwise I really try not to use JS.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 Thanks for your answer. Well many of aplications These days want this feature kinda became the industrie Standart, you can correct me if im wrong on this. So there would be two options either you go with plain old jquery and a backend language or some framework like react or vue
@@cano5063 Currently it's not the industry standard yet. The problem is the heavy payload loading the js frameworks. Also improved backend and JIT allows very good performance from a backend server only. It's more a visual experience. You have to go with a FE framework like Vue.js plus expanded functionality. Most of the time I decide that the extra work ensuring security is not worth the FE setup.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 what would you use than for rerendering only a litle section of the page for example in a shoping cart it makes no sence to render the whole page when there is only a price update for example.
Yes, backend and frontend. Laravel you can run by itself. PHP handles HTML embeded. For example you can do while you can display it in express, it's more common to output a JSON and have a frontend framework handle it
Don't make the assumption when you use a frontend framework that it encrypts the code. Since both your code and the framework are opensource, it can easily be reversed engineered with a reverse source map.
You should learn Angular, because it is the successor to AngularJS. But maybe you have already started to learn it, since your comment is 9 months old. Also, Angular is really not as bad as some youtubers make it out to be.
I've been gravitating toward LAMP, but find that all the "hot" courses and boot camps worship at the MERN stack shrine these days. I intend to build my own projects and would rather have them be robust, flexible, secure, sensible... in other words, they should work.
I agree i use express alot for my projects and it's such a pain to download all the dependencies rather than been able to use them out of the box
Exactly! It's too barebone.
I wondered about that, because you can look at the client side code in the browser debugger while the application is running you need to be careful about what information you process on the client side. So, you have to be really careful to design your applications to keep the sensitive data only on the server side/php side and make sure only non-sensitive information is being processed by the client side -- like you said, much more complicated than just having all sensitive data and the html rendered on the server side.
What about the PERN stack? Like your thoughts on that.
Postsql is similar to mysql but not a popular as a entry level database. express doesn't really play well with relational databases as much as nosql like mongo. What I really prefer is to get a project out and about with an entire stack that works really well together.
thanks for saving me some tim e
Dont you need a Frontend framework like react for practicaly reload the page without refresh? Many still use jquery with php. Isnt it a bit autdated? Would you use react with php?
First question, do you really need to reload the page without refresh? The problem with frontend backend is that I don't see the value for the technical debt. I would use Vue.js on certain pages but otherwise I really try not to use JS.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 Thanks for your answer. Well many of aplications These days want this feature kinda became the industrie Standart, you can correct me if im wrong on this. So there would be two options either you go with plain old jquery and a backend language or some framework like react or vue
@@cano5063 Currently it's not the industry standard yet. The problem is the heavy payload loading the js frameworks. Also improved backend and JIT allows very good performance from a backend server only. It's more a visual experience. You have to go with a FE framework like Vue.js plus expanded functionality. Most of the time I decide that the extra work ensuring security is not worth the FE setup.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 what would you use than for rerendering only a litle section of the page for example in a shoping cart it makes no sence to render the whole page when there is only a price update for example.
You said MEAN needs two frameworks, if I use Laravel, do I need a front-end framework?
Yes, backend and frontend. Laravel you can run by itself. PHP handles HTML embeded. For example you can do while you can display it in express, it's more common to output a JSON and have a frontend framework handle it
How about Django vs Laravel?
I find python lacking a lot of usability. PHP is more suited as a web language
@@lionelthetechlead8839 I also like PHP, but a lot of people recommend node.js
MEAN didn't switch off the lights .. its definitely that squirrel from ice age
Already 2024, is Express still limited?
It seems the bottleneck is on thr front-end where there are so many different js frameworks. Angular seems to be very limited.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 I suppose React is very powerful.
How do people know my code when I use a frontend framework? Did you forget to disable source maps?
Don't make the assumption when you use a frontend framework that it encrypts the code. Since both your code and the framework are opensource, it can easily be reversed engineered with a reverse source map.
difference in mean.io and mean.js?
In MEAN should I learn angular js or angular
No no no... nooo
You should learn Angular, because it is the successor to AngularJS. But maybe you have already started to learn it, since your comment is 9 months old. Also, Angular is really not as bad as some youtubers make it out to be.
I've been gravitating toward LAMP, but find that all the "hot" courses and boot camps worship at the MERN stack shrine these days. I intend to build my own projects and would rather have them be robust, flexible, secure, sensible... in other words, they should work.
Because with lamp all you need is UA-cam to learn!
@@lionelthetechlead8839 That's good news. I'm glad to hear it. That's something I can afford.
Can you suggest any good projects for lamp stack please