About 40 years ago I worked as a stockman on a cattle station on the Northern Territory and Western Australian border. We used hats like this, which were just like your original. We would shape it to the desired form, (usually some form of cowboy style from the movies as we were all young wankers!). To keep the shape we would soak them with a solution of sugar and water. This was very effective, even when one of your workmates grabbed your hat and threw it under your horse. Just pick it up and push out the extra dents and it was back to your original shape.
I noticed that the background for this video's thumbnail is a load of flames, which wouldn't makes sense, usually, but it makes a lot of sense if Lloyd thought that people wouldn't be interested in hats unless there were a bunch of flames in the thumbnail, because people who like axes also usually like fire.
To be honest the thumbnail wasn't showing when I clicked on this video. I sincerely found a video about historical hats to be interesting enough if it was Lloyd who talked about it.
Lindybeige And as Winston Churchill once said "democracy is the worst form of Government..."..."...except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…".
The permanently shape felt you need to use steam (Though a steamer works much better a steam-iron will do okay just more work. Similarly wool felt will give the best results) #1: Remove internal structures (or keep those which's shapes you want to keep if any are present) #2: Pin the hat to a hat-block/wig stands if you want to reshape the bulb of the hat itself, otherwise only pin the felt you want "folded" permanently to where it should be, Do NOT stretch the felt only fold it. #3: Steam the felt plentifully so as to loosen the fibbers and make the felt malleable (be prepared it'll be hot, some water-proof gloves may be appreciated) #4: re-pin the felt, it'll have gone slack as the felt became more loosely bound, if you want to sew or embroider something into it now would be the easier time. #5: Once the shape is gotten let it cool and dry (will take some time) #6: un-pin the felt and let it go "free" if you're unhappy with the result simply start over from where you're at now and with each attempt the shape will become closer and closer to what you're aiming for. Once satisfied no more pins will be needed and your hat will be set, until you decide to re-steam it if say rain and humidity deformed it over days of wearing it. This method can be used also to flatten out that wavy pattern it has for the sake of looking like a summer hat, ironing it will do the trick, though there's probably more felt than needed so it's the proper side meaning you'll probably want to shape it afterwards or it'll have bumps here and there.
+Jeff Cyr also, i know a few hat-enthousiasts that use hairspray to stiffen the felt slightly. spraying a few very light coats onto the brim before steaming it. and steam should be easy to come by in an english household, just put on the kettle :>
Done this and can confirm it works. I learned how to "mold" felt during my time in the military, as a way to get the beret to look right. A few years later I tried the same technique on a random felt hat to shape it into a tricorn for a pirate-party. I used hot water, and plenty of it. That was followed by a short massage of the fibers and then setting it to shape (using pins, needles or whatever you imagine). Set the hat to dry, preferably somewhere rather warm, such as a drying cabinet or on top of a radiator, in order to "bake" the fibers into their new shape. I would greatly suggest using some form of impregnation to assure the hat doesn't go floppy if it should rain, but aside from that it works like a charm.
Well, I'll, from now on, call this hat the One hat: One Hat to rule them all, One Hat to find them, One Hat to bring them all and in the darkness bind them... You can get it all with it...
I find it funny and even ironic that most of what we consider to be feminine were actually worn by males historically as a sign of either status, tradition, or even regular purpose. Skirts was worn by Romans in order to represent civility, which contrasted the barbaric ways of pants. High heels were developed by many societies for either horseback riding or status by keeping out of the mud. Make up was also a status symbol. Purses were often used by males to hold small items such as money, again as status. Even now, the boots that reaches up to knee height that was used by many soldiers is now considered a feminine wear. This hat was many things back then and now it is simply labeled "Women's summer time cap". I just find these things very interesting.
With the exception of jeans sold new with faded worn spots on the legs. Used to be for girls, now being sold to guys. Must have been intended as pay back for the trend you pointed out.
Another related thought. When male clothing transfers over to women, it is perfectly fine. But when a piece of clothing that is predominantly worn by women starts appearing on men too, we get all sorts of arguments. Like skinny jeans. Men used to(and sometimes still do) poke fun at other men who wear those. Don't you find it interesting?
Aiar Uther Your company may have a staffing problem in the near future considering the high percentage of the women that he sleeps with meet with violent deaths soon afterwards.
It's amazing how cultural programming works. Me, as an American, the instant I see a Tricorn hat I immediately think of the Revolutionary War. :Let's go to the tavern, drink some ale, talk some treason and then grab our muskets and go fight the British with good old General Washington. On a related note, I'd love a Lindybeige video about the evoltion of Taverns and Inns and how the taven as depicted in fantasy games or even in supposedly "authentic" re-enactment societies didn't actually exist until the 16th century. I tried to explain this to my DM one day and he thought I was mad. "What ever are you talking about?" He seemed to say. "Inns and Taverns have always existed."
Torque2100 I kinda always imagined it to be that someone started renting out spare rooms while their sons were off to war so they could make some extra coin on the side. after a while it just advanced to where they were also selling ales and whatnot because they could make a bit more money off of stocking some beer as well.
themonkeywarrior111 The kettle helm's evolution into its various forms and the eventual jump to the sallet then all the way to the WWI British trench helmets are certainly the helm taking various shapes.
You're one of those people that I can't help but feel jealous of how superb they're with making the most basic thing, become the most interesting thing
A quick Google search seems to suggest that you steam the hat to soften the felt, shape it into your desired style with pins or whatever and then leave it to "reset"
Basic kit for shaping: liquid starch, a steamer, a ham (roundish block of wood mimicking the shape of the skull, a styrafoam wig form can also work in a pinch but a real wooden ham is better), and some sturdy pins (t-pins recommended). Impregnate the hat blank with starch, steam into shape on the ham, pin securely on ham so crown doesn't shrink, reinforce shape with more pins, let dry at least overnight.
A month or so ago I did a little research of cowboy hats with photos from the wild west days and I was surprised to find that the 'cowboy' hat pretty much didn't exist back then. The hats all seemed to be bowlers, lemon squeezers, boss of the plains (sort of halfway between bowler and top hat) and restrained versions of the sombrero and the ten gallon. A few crowns must have been dented on the trail, but when it came time for a photo there must have been cries of "fix your hat Hank".
I wanted to make a tricorn months ago but never got round to it . Thanks to you a womens summer hat has been ordered. While I am at it , have you seen the latest ironclad ? If not , dont go in with high hopes . I would love to see some more film picking videos .
Lloyd, painting on thinned-down white glue, or a layer of spray-on glue as sizing will firm up your brim; paint on the glue, form to the hat to your shape, then use pins or clips or some such to hold the shape until the glue dries. The only caveat is that if you get it wet, it may lose it's shape. Or course, you can say the same of a hat made of buckram, so there ya go...
So Lindybeige, what is the origin of this hat? The earliest example I can think of is the metal version: Chapel-de-fer, very popular in medieval Scandinavia.
I have a grand total of tree hats for historical re-enactments. A top-hat, a narrow-brimmed felt hat and a wide brimmed picture hat. I have never needed anything but those, some feathers, pins and ribbons and my imagination.
To anyone wanting to reshape these hats, all you really need is Steam (warm water works in a pinch) Some sort of rope/thing to hold it in shape Weights Wood or foam blocks in the shape that you want (foam is easier to cut into shape) Steam or lightly wet it in hot water, place it over the wooden block, and place the weights on the brim to hold it in place and make sure it's pulled tight. Leave it for a while, and it should be shaped. You might also want to tie around the base of the crown so it further keeps its shape. You can also just tie/pin the brim into where you want it and it'll stay that shape more easily. This is a very dumbed down version of how to do it but it SHOULD work. Stovepipe Shakos were also shaped this way and sometimes coated in a natural resin or shellac so it better keeps its shape.
I’m reminded of some prop comic who had a whole routine just like this. He had a disc of cloth with a hole in it (just the brim of a hat I guess) that he folded into many different hats while running through his banter about George Washington and Napoleon etc. Maybe Google remembers who it was.
Other than steaming (and I don't know if a regular household iron would work or something a bit stronger), you could get your hats to stay in shape by cleverly disguising your stitches under some trimming or buttons or badges/ribbon. At least that's what I did when I needed to make a load of tricorn hats. I just used straw hats that I painted black after I just put a few big stitches in to get them to the desired shape.
When I clicked to watch this video, I didn't expect anything interesting, and more of a blurb about how felt hat protected against rain or some other stuff. But the video turned out much more interesting than I expected ^.^ It's cool how many hats can one make out of a simple felt hat.
+lindybeige to get it stiff... you can soak the brim in standard clothing starch (possibly dyed to match, if the fabric shows the starch too easily), then let it dry in roughly 45-50°C temps whilst blocked in the desired shape. Then, vigorously rub the felt with another piece of felt to reraise the nap. The temp helps set the starch, the rubbing hides the starchy gloss.
Since this has been up for a few years someone may have already said this, but one way to make the brim shape permanent is to form hat wire (similar to piano wire but thicker and warped in thread) into the shape you want for the outside of the brim, sew it to the edge of the felt, then cover it in a bias cut strip of fabric or some more elaborate trim if you want something fancier.
Hat stiffness and reshaping for simple felts, is to wet it, preferably with a little vinegar or slight acid in the water, and then wear them in the sunshine in the warm days, and shape it for four hours until dry, and it will usually shrink to fit, if too loose, let dry in a hot car, checking it every thirty minutes, of course, in the cold months, you'd need a few hours near a hot fireplace or stove. Various waterproofing also helped to hold the shapes, but you don't apply all of them on the same hat, you can wax them, oil them, and tar them. The waxing of seamans jackets probably led to the waxing of hats. I waxed a hat and it was great in the winter, but actually did run out in the summer. The best waterproofing is to use a thicker felt with tight compaction. You are right about initial shaping by steaming them on forms and molds. Hats really don't need to be waterproof, as long as they keep rain out of your eyes and trap your body heat under the crown, they will keep you warmish up there. Your suggestion to get the floppy women's hat is great. Thanks!
In the late 1860s and early 1870s, in the frontier area of the United States, it became very popular to turn up the front right or left corner of a hat like this in imitation of the style described in Dumas' "The Three Musketeers." This style was very popular among gamblers, frontiersmen, and professional gunfighters as typified most notably by James Butler Hickok, better known as Wild Bill Hickok. Some sources say he originally modified a lady's hat in this fashion before that particlar style became marketed towards men.
thinned shellac will get a felt blank nice and hard, but you need a hat block or hat stretcher or the hat will shrink too small. When set the hat can be gently steamed in order to adjust the shape. I do this with floppy hats to get american civil war era hats done right, we have a handful of civilian hats made from cheap blanks and some ribbon. Union dress hats (or other steep sided, so pilgrim, guy fawkes etc) can be made by careful selection of flower pots. Of course the expensive (but incredibly accurate down to interior labels) Tim Bender hat I bought before I worked out how to do this is fur felt stiffened with shellac. I use the least pigmented I can find, usually french button polish from my local friendly paint and decorating store. It might be rustin's brand i have been using.
One way felt hats are held in shape is to soak them in varnish or lacquer and let them dry. Then sand them to bring up the nap. Tricorn hats and other can have the sides held in place by cutting two slits and running a ribbon through them and tying inside. The ribbon may be same color or opposite color like white for showiness. Look at naval officer hats for example.
Outstanding Lloyd! I never considered something so simple. Regarding permanently fixing the hat into a desired shape, steam it and then spray it with starch and let it dry in that form (pinned, etc.). It will stay that way forever!
Based on how they make Akubra (fur felt hats) you shape the raw felt in a high pressure steam press. That gives you "sharp" folds and edges and makes the hat "hard". However you can easily fix or reshape a felt hat by using steam, and then holding or pinning the hat in the desired shape as it cools and dries. However it may require many steam / cool cycles to fundamentally change the shape of the hat.
I've always reshaped my felt hats by just holding them over the steam from a teakettle. You can kiiiind of shape wool in a similar way, but it doesn't hold terribly well... I love to get black felt hats (bowler, gaucho, gambler, tricorn, or proper topper) and just decorate the crap out of them with old leather bands, pins and medals, and various animal bits, from teeth to tails to feathers.
If you take shellac flakes and dissolve them into alcohol (takes a while but it will dissolve eventually) then put it on the hat through a sprayer/atomizer it will stiffen the hat. Then you can use heavy steam to soften the felt for shaping, and the shellac will keep the shape you put into it. It does need to be actual wool/fur felt for it to work, though.
A lot of soldiers had the brim pinned up on one side or the other, often with a regimental badge or emblem. Try marching with a musket on your shoulder while wearing a wide brimmed hat and it'll dawn on you what a good idea pinning it up is.
the way you permanently shape a felt is is to hold it over steaming water like off a tea kettle and then fold it how you want. pins help enourage it to keep the shape while it is drying. lots of videos here on youtube about that.
I've got a hat like that, that was originally bought from Venice as a tricorn (because holidays and the sudden need for fancy hats) and the sides were attached with a couple of light stitches where they met the dome and it held shape perfectly.
It is similar to the three musketeers except their hats had a steel band/crown also I know I say this about a lot of your videos but this one in particular is a special example if I made a video about different hats it would be SO boring but you add your style to it and make it fascinating
The hats were made on a block, like today. They carve a wooden blank in the shape and size of the crown of the hat. The felt started out as a cone, made by sifting water and fibers through a cone shaped strainer, then they steam the cone or, perhaps in the old days they might have blocked the hat right after they made the cone when it was still wet, but they forced the wet felt cone down over the block, then hammered it with round wooden mallets until it had compressed into the shape of the block.
If you’re just shaping the brim you can paint on some shellack and pin or clamp it in shape until it dries. It you’re shaping the crown you can do much the same thing but you also use steam or an iron to shape it to a wood mold
and if you put four indents on the crown of it, make it brown felt, and flatten the brim you have the classic US Campaign Cover, or the dreaded USMC Drill Instructor Cover of Doom, or the Trooper hat. And if you fold up one side and stick a pin in it you also get the famous Australian Slouch hat. And if you put a dent on the top and add crossed sabres on the front you have the US Cavalry slouch hat.
Love the vids aboud shoes and hats so far. about "permanently shaping a hat" try to "storm boild" water in a large pot or a tea pot (the one with the neck) and try to focus the steam over the part where you want to bend/shape it. it works wonders for me
im making a fantasy world where most of those hats (and weapons and armors) are present in the same time period because for some magical reason, nothing goes out of fashion
0:30 Good guess. This is exactly how they are made. This is just a felt hat preform, which would normally get starched and pressed into another mold for a more modern hat shape, like a bowler, or cowboy hat, or apparently, sold as is as a womans summer hat.
For shaping the felt i'd suggest trying the same that they do to shape and harden leather: apply heat and/or acid. Have never tried it myself, but it seems to me that it might work (as they are both polymers, which usually harden when heated or brought into contact with acid)
To address your confusion on how to make a hat permanently hold a shape, there is a thing called fusible interfacing. You iron it on to fabrics to give them shape and rigidity, and in addition you might would consider adding boning to the rim if you wanted it to maintain a particularly elaborate shape.
Also, hats that you don't want to be floppy have milinery wire sewn around the edge of the crown (in a channel made out of something unobtrusive, like felt in the same colour, or sturdy ribbon made for that purpose - I think it's called Petersham, one could probably use a bias strip in homemaking situations). Well. I say milinery wire, but I think any sort of thin wire that's not very bendable, only enough to go round, will do. (So I guess you'd probably want steel for that.)
"Bashing" or shaping a felt hat is usually done with water and sugar. Any old soldier from the Australian Army can show you how, given that our famous Slouch ( Wide Awake in the UK? ) Hat comes issued like the item in this video.
I am so close to just wearing around a tricorn. I really like the look of it, and now I know how easy they are to make. The only ptoblems I see are: strange looks and the fact that I don't want to worry about wearing a hat. Oh, also my relatively large head.
You can make your own felt hat stiffener. I've used it to completely, and permanently, reshape felt hats. Dissolve as much corn starch as you can in water, strain out the undissolved bits. Then dissolve as much white sugar as you can in it the same way. Soak the hat in it, shape it and leave it to dry. You'll probably need to put string and clothes pegs on it to hold the shape till it's dry. To fix it permanently; when it's dry, give it a light spray of clean water and iron it dry on wool setting.
An interesting note about cowboy hats. The curled up brim is an entirely modern invention spurred mostly by fashion. Back in the 19th century they were mostly flat brimmed for the obvious purpose of keeping the elements off the face and back.
You should really visit Moesgaard museum in Denmark, and if you ever are going too, i would love to join you for the tour! - Much love and keep up the great work!
Thea M såsom hvad? kan kun komme på museet i roskilde og københavn der er tæt på at være lige så gode? moesgård er jo lige blevet udvidet ufatteligt meget!
And if you dye it red.... well nobody would expect that.
Darkavatar I see what you did there
Well nobody is allowed to expect the SPANISH INQUISITION
Cardinal Fang, bring out the comfy chair!!
Ha.
Damn it, you beat me to it!
Suddenly I feel the need to buy and wear a hat.
I can’t like this comment more then once.
I've like the comment in this comment because I couldn't like the original comment twice
Here: www.amazon.com/Lovful-Women-Cloche-Fedora-Floppy/dp/B019F7M39E?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_3
@Jimmy A reasonably tight grip and a flex of your triceps (if you're wearing said hat) or biceps (if you're not wearing said hat) should be enough.
Don't fall for the beguiling ways of Big Hab, @Khorney!
About 40 years ago I worked as a stockman on a cattle station on the Northern Territory and Western Australian border. We used hats like this, which were just like your original.
We would shape it to the desired form, (usually some form of cowboy style from the movies as we were all young wankers!).
To keep the shape we would soak them with a solution of sugar and water.
This was very effective, even when one of your workmates grabbed your hat and threw it under your horse.
Just pick it up and push out the extra dents and it was back to your original shape.
I noticed that the background for this video's thumbnail is a load of flames, which wouldn't makes sense, usually, but it makes a lot of sense if Lloyd thought that people wouldn't be interested in hats unless there were a bunch of flames in the thumbnail, because people who like axes also usually like fire.
To be honest the thumbnail wasn't showing when I clicked on this video. I sincerely found a video about historical hats to be interesting enough if it was Lloyd who talked about it.
@@agustinl2302 honestly Llyod could make a video about his rubbish and i'd still watch it.
I let you into a secret. he's got a thing about flame-throwers
why is this man not the Prime Minister
Because we live in a democracy.
Lindybeige You would have my vote for sure ^^
Lindybeige
And as Winston Churchill once said "democracy is the worst form of Government..."..."...except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…".
He's also not a career politician.
Ken Clark Unlike yourself
The permanently shape felt you need to use steam (Though a steamer works much better a steam-iron will do okay just more work. Similarly wool felt will give the best results)
#1: Remove internal structures (or keep those which's shapes you want to keep if any are present)
#2: Pin the hat to a hat-block/wig stands if you want to reshape the bulb of the hat itself, otherwise only pin the felt you want "folded" permanently to where it should be, Do NOT stretch the felt only fold it.
#3: Steam the felt plentifully so as to loosen the fibbers and make the felt malleable (be prepared it'll be hot, some water-proof gloves may be appreciated)
#4: re-pin the felt, it'll have gone slack as the felt became more loosely bound, if you want to sew or embroider something into it now would be the easier time.
#5: Once the shape is gotten let it cool and dry (will take some time)
#6: un-pin the felt and let it go "free" if you're unhappy with the result simply start over from where you're at now and with each attempt the shape will become closer and closer to what you're aiming for. Once satisfied no more pins will be needed and your hat will be set, until you decide to re-steam it if say rain and humidity deformed it over days of wearing it.
This method can be used also to flatten out that wavy pattern it has for the sake of looking like a summer hat, ironing it will do the trick, though there's probably more felt than needed so it's the proper side meaning you'll probably want to shape it afterwards or it'll have bumps here and there.
+Jeff Cyr also, i know a few hat-enthousiasts that use hairspray to stiffen the felt slightly. spraying a few very light coats onto the brim before steaming it. and steam should be easy to come by in an english household, just put on the kettle :>
Wouldn't starch work.
Not really. You would have to use so much it would affect the colour and texture of the hat. Steam works better. Pin into shape and steam or soak.
Done this and can confirm it works. I learned how to "mold" felt during my time in the military, as a way to get the beret to look right. A few years later I tried the same technique on a random felt hat to shape it into a tricorn for a pirate-party.
I used hot water, and plenty of it. That was followed by a short massage of the fibers and then setting it to shape (using pins, needles or whatever you imagine). Set the hat to dry, preferably somewhere rather warm, such as a drying cabinet or on top of a radiator, in order to "bake" the fibers into their new shape.
I would greatly suggest using some form of impregnation to assure the hat doesn't go floppy if it should rain, but aside from that it works like a charm.
there's a product called 'stiffen stuff' you can find online or in craft stores that is made for this purpose.
New saturday morning cartoon:
Summer Hats! More than meets the eye!
AUTO-HATS! TRANSFORM! (pin and ribbon sounds)
+Daniel Hale Auto-hats wage their battle to out-decorate the forces of the decepti-hats.
Authenti-hats you mean
@@philipshestialtynov2378 decepti-caps
I think it takes just a wee bit more effort to make a horse into a desired horse shape.
You just need more glue or a bigger steamer...
ptonpc
And a bigger thing that goes *Thunk*.
The "wee" part in your comment is what made it gold. I can hear it in my head. In accent. Time after time after time. SOS.
Damn I really love tricorn hats.
Same, bro. Even a swede can have good taste it seems lol greeting from norway
Vetle Vedal Thank you neighbor lol.
BlodOchStål I wear mine all the time. Absolutely love it. Goes well with my blue trench coat. 😇
Sir Athos Putnam Nice! I wear a green trench coat :)
Sir Athos Putnam You must look ridiculous Ahahaha
Thanks for these insightful videos Lindy
Who knew that horses were horses in medieval times? The more you know
Wow, nice to see you here! I like your work Shinji :D
Don't complain if I start showing off medieval spears on my channel too. It's Lindy fault!
Weird running into you here, never ran into someone I sub to on another persons I sub to channel. Well, I think you should both fight now..
Shinji72 Bring it on :P
Well, I'll, from now on, call this hat the One hat:
One Hat to rule them all, One Hat to find them,
One Hat to bring them all and in the darkness bind them...
You can get it all with it...
I find it funny and even ironic that most of what we consider to be feminine were actually worn by males historically as a sign of either status, tradition, or even regular purpose. Skirts was worn by Romans in order to represent civility, which contrasted the barbaric ways of pants. High heels were developed by many societies for either horseback riding or status by keeping out of the mud. Make up was also a status symbol. Purses were often used by males to hold small items such as money, again as status. Even now, the boots that reaches up to knee height that was used by many soldiers is now considered a feminine wear. This hat was many things back then and now it is simply labeled "Women's summer time cap". I just find these things very interesting.
Id call it more of the left brain focus in todays world
Don't for god sake mention this to any feminists
With the exception of jeans sold new with faded worn spots on the legs. Used to be for girls, now being sold to guys. Must have been intended as pay back for the trend you pointed out.
Another related thought. When male clothing transfers over to women, it is perfectly fine. But when a piece of clothing that is predominantly worn by women starts appearing on men too, we get all sorts of arguments. Like skinny jeans. Men used to(and sometimes still do) poke fun at other men who wear those. Don't you find it interesting?
***** I've never heard a man poke fun at women who wear skinny jeans.
How do I fold it to get Oddjobs totally authentic killing hat?
I got mine thrown in when I ordered a hollowed-out volcano.
Lindybeige Funny, I got a fluffy persian cat with mine.
I got a bar of Nazi gold thrown in. But I lost it to in a game of golf.
Apollo Olympos It wasn't that horrible guy, John? James? Either way he's quite a rotter. He keeps seducing all my female employees.
Aiar Uther
Your company may have a staffing problem in the near future considering the high percentage of the women that he sleeps with meet with violent deaths soon afterwards.
This is unbelievable. I never thought or realized that all these variations came from the same damn hat! Nice work doc
3:00 "¡Alto a la Guardia Civil!" Sorry I couldn't resist. Spanish Guardia Civil still uses Tricorns... but now they're made of plastic.
I have been on parade with Guardia Civil and to be quite frank, those plastic hats just makes them look ridiculous.
It's amazing how cultural programming works. Me, as an American, the instant I see a Tricorn hat I immediately think of the Revolutionary War. :Let's go to the tavern, drink some ale, talk some treason and then grab our muskets and go fight the British with good old General Washington.
On a related note, I'd love a Lindybeige video about the evoltion of Taverns and Inns and how the taven as depicted in fantasy games or even in supposedly "authentic" re-enactment societies didn't actually exist until the 16th century. I tried to explain this to my DM one day and he thought I was mad. "What ever are you talking about?" He seemed to say. "Inns and Taverns have always existed."
Torque2100 I kinda always imagined it to be that someone started renting out spare rooms while their sons were off to war so they could make some extra coin on the side. after a while it just advanced to where they were also selling ales and whatnot because they could make a bit more money off of stocking some beer as well.
cultural programming lol. That is not an example of cultural programming. As for the second part. Stop being a pain in the ass and have fun
I wish I could give you a million likes because of that Adam Ant picture.
Aik diddley qua qua!
Lindybeige "Staaaaaand and delllllliver 'money your life!"
Literally freaked out when I saw Adam Ant. Best for last: the Dandy Highwayman Hat.
***** The end of the Adam Ant 'Stand and Deliver' play.
Diddly Qua Qua... *Heh.*
this blew my mind; my whole world has been turned inside out. I could have been using these hats all my life.
Man, you totally sold that hat to me with this video. I WANT ONE NOW
I miss hats. Jeans and a T-shirt is all well and good, but I want to see people-most people-walking around in hats again.
TheBreezyTrousers And I tip my trilby to you as well, good sir.
TheBreezyTrousers
*Tips*
Cernel Joson True, but even those aren't that common. People put too much work into their hair, I s'pose.
Cernel Joson Damn. I knew that I was the problem, somehow.
Albert Milbert ...I take it back. Bloody chavs ruin everything.
Good episode. Can you do a follow-up episode on the kettle-helm? It looks a lot like the felt hat you bought but, of course, made of metal.
A friend of mine has a kettle helm, so...
Lindybeige can you shape the helm into a tricone and such too?
themonkeywarrior111 The kettle helm's evolution into its various forms and the eventual jump to the sallet then all the way to the WWI British trench helmets are certainly the helm taking various shapes.
Few know that the kettle helm originated from the women's summer helm.
PLEASE, stay til the end! Love Lloyd being goofy!
Thanks for the heads up
You're one of those people that I can't help but feel jealous of how superb they're with making the most basic thing, become the most interesting thing
You forgot to fold one side up and make a Jäger hat
or make a centreline ridge, push in the sides of the top and fold up the left brim and you have crude Slouch hat
A quick Google search seems to suggest that you steam the hat to soften the felt, shape it into your desired style with pins or whatever and then leave it to "reset"
"In much the same way, all horses were actually just one horse." o.O
'In much the same way, all horse were actually just one horse."- That just earned you a subscription. Love the stuff.
Basic kit for shaping: liquid starch, a steamer, a ham (roundish block of wood mimicking the shape of the skull, a styrafoam wig form can also work in a pinch but a real wooden ham is better), and some sturdy pins (t-pins recommended). Impregnate the hat blank with starch, steam into shape on the ham, pin securely on ham so crown doesn't shrink, reinforce shape with more pins, let dry at least overnight.
A month or so ago I did a little research of cowboy hats with photos from the wild west days and I was surprised to find that the 'cowboy' hat pretty much didn't exist back then. The hats all seemed to be bowlers, lemon squeezers, boss of the plains (sort of halfway between bowler and top hat) and restrained versions of the sombrero and the ten gallon. A few crowns must have been dented on the trail, but when it came time for a photo there must have been cries of "fix your hat Hank".
What a awesome video !!! :))
I love how the algorithm keeps blessing me with your content that seems like it’s new but it was uploaded 8 years ago. I love it. 😂❤
I wanted to make a tricorn months ago but never got round to it . Thanks to you a womens summer hat has been ordered. While I am at it , have you seen the latest ironclad ? If not , dont go in with high hopes . I would love to see some more film picking videos .
Lloyd, painting on thinned-down white glue, or a layer of spray-on glue as sizing will firm up your brim; paint on the glue, form to the hat to your shape, then use pins or clips or some such to hold the shape until the glue dries.
The only caveat is that if you get it wet, it may lose it's shape. Or course, you can say the same of a hat made of buckram, so there ya go...
So Lindybeige, what is the origin of this hat? The earliest example I can think of is the metal version: Chapel-de-fer, very popular in medieval Scandinavia.
Ancient Cretans wore similar hats, but theirs weren't black. Theirs was more of a beige age.
Lindybeige
And the legacy of beige lives on to this very day
Lindybeige Just like these cretans? www.fantasytravelofgreece.com/sites/default/files/First-Timers/07-sunburns04-1600.jpg
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They probably didn't have a good black dye.
i heard dinosaurs had hats like that. And their hats had feathers.
I have a grand total of tree hats for historical re-enactments. A top-hat, a narrow-brimmed felt hat and a wide brimmed picture hat. I have never needed anything but those, some feathers, pins and ribbons and my imagination.
To anyone wanting to reshape these hats, all you really need is
Steam (warm water works in a pinch)
Some sort of rope/thing to hold it in shape
Weights
Wood or foam blocks in the shape that you want (foam is easier to cut into shape)
Steam or lightly wet it in hot water, place it over the wooden block, and place the weights on the brim to hold it in place and make sure it's pulled tight. Leave it for a while, and it should be shaped. You might also want to tie around the base of the crown so it further keeps its shape. You can also just tie/pin the brim into where you want it and it'll stay that shape more easily. This is a very dumbed down version of how to do it but it SHOULD work. Stovepipe Shakos were also shaped this way and sometimes coated in a natural resin or shellac so it better keeps its shape.
There are strong parallels between this video and Matt Parker's 'There is only One True Parabola'.
I could listen to you talk about hats all day.
Seems like a good application for a few aluminum wires around the brim of the hat so it can hold whatever shape you put it in.
I’m reminded of some prop comic who had a whole routine just like this. He had a disc of cloth with a hole in it (just the brim of a hat I guess) that he folded into many different hats while running through his banter about George Washington and Napoleon etc. Maybe Google remembers who it was.
Do not tell that to Michael Bay, I realy don't want to see "Transformers 25: Revenge of the fallen hats"
Other than steaming (and I don't know if a regular household iron would work or something a bit stronger), you could get your hats to stay in shape by cleverly disguising your stitches under some trimming or buttons or badges/ribbon.
At least that's what I did when I needed to make a load of tricorn hats. I just used straw hats that I painted black after I just put a few big stitches in to get them to the desired shape.
One hat to rule them all...
The Crown
When I clicked to watch this video, I didn't expect anything interesting, and more of a blurb about how felt hat protected against rain or some other stuff. But the video turned out much more interesting than I expected ^.^ It's cool how many hats can one make out of a simple felt hat.
Hah, the Plato/Aristotle (one of them I think!) quote at the end!
+Nikolaj Bourguignon
What is the quote, I must have missed it.
At the end, the white letters on the brown background.
Nikolaj Bourguignon
Ah, well, I did not know that sentence had anything to do with Plato or Aristotle. How exactly is it related to either one?
Ah, is it related to Plato's theory of forms or something?
***** yep, at least I think so. It's with that world of ideas/forms thing.
A video about hats through history... well you've got me as a subscriber now.
+lindybeige to get it stiff... you can soak the brim in standard clothing starch (possibly dyed to match, if the fabric shows the starch too easily), then let it dry in roughly 45-50°C temps whilst blocked in the desired shape. Then, vigorously rub the felt with another piece of felt to reraise the nap. The temp helps set the starch, the rubbing hides the starchy gloss.
This video is 4:20 long! Also "Hat" has 3 letters, a triangle has 3 letters, ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED! Nice try Lindybeige!
Multum In Parvo tri corner hats are triangles (O_O)
Since this has been up for a few years someone may have already said this, but one way to make the brim shape permanent is to form hat wire (similar to piano wire but thicker and warped in thread) into the shape you want for the outside of the brim, sew it to the edge of the felt, then cover it in a bias cut strip of fabric or some more elaborate trim if you want something fancier.
BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!!!
Hat stiffness and reshaping for simple felts, is to wet it, preferably with a little vinegar or slight acid in the water, and then wear them in the sunshine in the warm days, and shape it for four hours until dry, and it will usually shrink to fit, if too loose, let dry in a hot car, checking it every thirty minutes, of course, in the cold months, you'd need a few hours near a hot fireplace or stove. Various waterproofing also helped to hold the shapes, but you don't apply all of them on the same hat, you can wax them, oil them, and tar them. The waxing of seamans jackets probably led to the waxing of hats. I waxed a hat and it was great in the winter, but actually did run out in the summer. The best waterproofing is to use a thicker felt with tight compaction. You are right about initial shaping by steaming them on forms and molds. Hats really don't need to be waterproof, as long as they keep rain out of your eyes and trap your body heat under the crown, they will keep you warmish up there. Your suggestion to get the floppy women's hat is great. Thanks!
MIND BLOWN!!!
I really hadn't considered that they were so similar... Thank you for this video.
In the late 1860s and early 1870s, in the frontier area of the United States, it became very popular to turn up the front right or left corner of a hat like this in imitation of the style described in Dumas' "The Three Musketeers." This style was very popular among gamblers, frontiersmen, and professional gunfighters as typified most notably by James Butler Hickok, better known as Wild Bill Hickok. Some sources say he originally modified a lady's hat in this fashion before that particlar style became marketed towards men.
why are thee glasses on the wall?
I found them in the street and thought them amusingly pathetic.
Lindybeige after what years, of seeing them on the wall that was story behind the glasses?
thinned shellac will get a felt blank nice and hard, but you need a hat block or hat stretcher or the hat will shrink too small. When set the hat can be gently steamed in order to adjust the shape. I do this with floppy hats to get american civil war era hats done right, we have a handful of civilian hats made from cheap blanks and some ribbon. Union dress hats (or other steep sided, so pilgrim, guy fawkes etc) can be made by careful selection of flower pots. Of course the expensive (but incredibly accurate down to interior labels) Tim Bender hat I bought before I worked out how to do this is fur felt stiffened with shellac. I use the least pigmented I can find, usually french button polish from my local friendly paint and decorating store. It might be rustin's brand i have been using.
One way felt hats are held in shape is to soak them in varnish or lacquer and let them dry. Then sand them to bring up the nap.
Tricorn hats and other can have the sides held in place by cutting two slits and running a ribbon through them and tying inside. The ribbon may be same color or opposite color like white for showiness. Look at naval officer hats for example.
Steam for shaping. Apply thinned shellack for stiffening.
Outstanding Lloyd! I never considered something so simple.
Regarding permanently fixing the hat into a desired shape, steam it and then spray it with starch and let it dry in that form (pinned, etc.). It will stay that way forever!
Based on how they make Akubra (fur felt hats) you shape the raw felt in a high pressure steam press. That gives you "sharp" folds and edges and makes the hat "hard".
However you can easily fix or reshape a felt hat by using steam, and then holding or pinning the hat in the desired shape as it cools and dries. However it may require many steam / cool cycles to fundamentally change the shape of the hat.
Brilliant how you suddenly changed the style so many times, it's absolutely mad haha
I've always reshaped my felt hats by just holding them over the steam from a teakettle.
You can kiiiind of shape wool in a similar way, but it doesn't hold terribly well...
I love to get black felt hats (bowler, gaucho, gambler, tricorn, or proper topper) and just decorate the crap out of them with old leather bands, pins and medals, and various animal bits, from teeth to tails to feathers.
If you take shellac flakes and dissolve them into alcohol (takes a while but it will dissolve eventually) then put it on the hat through a sprayer/atomizer it will stiffen the hat. Then you can use heavy steam to soften the felt for shaping, and the shellac will keep the shape you put into it. It does need to be actual wool/fur felt for it to work, though.
For a tricorn just a few stitches will keep the sides up. For flattening the top use steam and a flowerpot.
The way to get a hat to hold it's shape is to have a hard felt like beaver, and a high density. Such hats only flex under steam.
A lot of soldiers had the brim pinned up on one side or the other, often with a regimental badge or emblem. Try marching with a musket on your shoulder while wearing a wide brimmed hat and it'll dawn on you what a good idea pinning it up is.
4:17 that's how my heart was stolen
The comment at the end about horses made me laugh probably harder than it should have.
the way you permanently shape a felt is is to hold it over steaming water like off a tea kettle and then fold it how you want. pins help enourage it to keep the shape while it is drying. lots of videos here on youtube about that.
I've got a hat like that, that was originally bought from Venice as a tricorn (because holidays and the sudden need for fancy hats) and the sides were attached with a couple of light stitches where they met the dome and it held shape perfectly.
It is similar to the three musketeers except their hats had a steel band/crown also I know I say this about a lot of your videos but this one in particular is a special example if I made a video about different hats it would be SO boring but you add your style to it and make it fascinating
The hats were made on a block, like today. They carve a wooden blank in the shape and size of the crown of the hat. The felt started out as a cone, made by sifting water and fibers through a cone shaped strainer, then they steam the cone or, perhaps in the old days they might have blocked the hat right after they made the cone when it was still wet, but they forced the wet felt cone down over the block, then hammered it with round wooden mallets until it had compressed into the shape of the block.
That was 4 minutes and 20 seconds of information I couldn't live without.........I love this channel but can't figure out why.
The feathers or anything else put onto the hat is called macaroni also a clothes iron will make the felt keep its shape
Instead of being stiffened in place usually youd poke holes and put string through to keep a side up!
If you’re just shaping the brim you can paint on some shellack and pin or clamp it in shape until it dries. It you’re shaping the crown you can do much the same thing but you also use steam or an iron to shape it to a wood mold
and if you put four indents on the crown of it, make it brown felt, and flatten the brim you have the classic US Campaign Cover, or the dreaded USMC Drill Instructor Cover of Doom, or the Trooper hat. And if you fold up one side and stick a pin in it you also get the famous Australian Slouch hat. And if you put a dent on the top and add crossed sabres on the front you have the US Cavalry slouch hat.
That hat would look great with a black evening and heels Lindy.
Love the vids aboud shoes and hats so far.
about "permanently shaping a hat" try to "storm boild" water in a large pot or a tea pot (the one with the neck) and try to focus the steam over the part where you want to bend/shape it. it works wonders for me
To get the raised crown they "block" the hat. Essentially they stretch the felt hood over the mould or "block" and then steam it and apply stiffener.
you can get fabric stiffener in spray cans here down under, works a treat
im making a fantasy world where most of those hats (and weapons and armors) are present in the same time period because for some magical reason, nothing goes out of fashion
Lol, did you show a picture of Adam Ant right there at the end?? That's awesome!
0:30 Good guess. This is exactly how they are made. This is just a felt hat preform, which would normally get starched and pressed into another mold for a more modern hat shape, like a bowler, or cowboy hat, or apparently, sold as is as a womans summer hat.
'Stuck a feather in his had and called it macaroni' makes a lot of sense now
Water and some Elmer's glue. Paint the hat with a brushing the slop you made, then hold down with something flat or whatever and it'll hold the shape
If UA-cam doesn’t work out, at least you have a promising career as a hat salesman
For shaping the felt i'd suggest trying the same that they do to shape and harden leather: apply heat and/or acid. Have never tried it myself, but it seems to me that it might work (as they are both polymers, which usually harden when heated or brought into contact with acid)
To address your confusion on how to make a hat permanently hold a shape, there is a thing called fusible interfacing. You iron it on to fabrics to give them shape and rigidity, and in addition you might would consider adding boning to the rim if you wanted it to maintain a particularly elaborate shape.
Thank you again, Lindybeige. I love your posts on historical clothing and it's functionality.
I have always wanted an authentic tricore hat, I always thought they looked very dashing Cheers Lindy
Also, hats that you don't want to be floppy have milinery wire sewn around the edge of the crown (in a channel made out of something unobtrusive, like felt in the same colour, or sturdy ribbon made for that purpose - I think it's called Petersham, one could probably use a bias strip in homemaking situations).
Well. I say milinery wire, but I think any sort of thin wire that's not very bendable, only enough to go round, will do. (So I guess you'd probably want steel for that.)
"Bashing" or shaping a felt hat is usually done with water and sugar. Any old soldier from the Australian Army can show you how, given that our famous Slouch ( Wide Awake in the UK? ) Hat comes issued like the item in this video.
I am so close to just wearing around a tricorn. I really like the look of it, and now I know how easy they are to make. The only ptoblems I see are: strange looks and the fact that I don't want to worry about wearing a hat. Oh, also my relatively large head.
You nearly had the toreador hat there for a second.
You can make your own felt hat stiffener. I've used it to completely, and permanently, reshape felt hats. Dissolve as much corn starch as you can in water, strain out the undissolved bits. Then dissolve as much white sugar as you can in it the same way. Soak the hat in it, shape it and leave it to dry. You'll probably need to put string and clothes pegs on it to hold the shape till it's dry. To fix it permanently; when it's dry, give it a light spray of clean water and iron
it dry on wool setting.
1:25 Well then you'd b- "Another settlement needs your help"
An interesting note about cowboy hats. The curled up brim is an entirely modern invention spurred mostly by fashion. Back in the 19th century they were mostly flat brimmed for the obvious purpose of keeping the elements off the face and back.
No joke, the ad I got for this video was for a vintage hat manufacturer.
You should really visit Moesgaard museum in Denmark, and if you ever are going too, i would love to join you for the tour!
- Much love and keep up the great work!
Thea M såsom hvad? kan kun komme på museet i roskilde og københavn der er tæt på at være lige så gode? moesgård er jo lige blevet udvidet ufatteligt meget!