Dr. Aswath Damodaran Talks Valuation, Market Uncertainty, and Bitcoin

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  • Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
  • Dr. Damodaran's channel: / aswathdamodaranonvalua...
    Dr. Damodaran's Website: pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/
    Dr. Damodaran's blog: aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/
    This video is available as a podcast at www.theplainbagel.com and on Apple Podcasts (search "The Plain Podcast")!
    00:00 - Introduction
    02:36 - Why Aswath Teaches
    06:27 - Valuation vs Pricing
    16:36 - What Swath Looks For in a Company
    19:11 - Common Analysis Mistakes
    23:46 - The Changing Valuation Environment
    32:02 - Aswath's Views on Crypto
    42:49 - Closing Tips
    I had the chance to sit down with the "Dean of Valuation" himself, Dr. Damodaran of NYU Stern, who offered is views on valuation, the current market environment, and bitcoin.
    If you'd like to support the channel, you can do so at / theplainbagel :)
    DISCLAIMER:
    This channel is for education purposes only and does not constitute financial advice - Richard is not responsible for investment actions taken by viewers. Please seek out a registered advisor if you require assistance (while Richard is a registered portfolio manager at WDS Investment Management, he does not provide advice through The Plain Bagel, which is not affiliated with his employer).

КОМЕНТАРІ • 292

  • @cnhtol1586
    @cnhtol1586 Рік тому +549

    His UA-cam channel has free finance courses, people will charge you thousands of dollars for 10% of what he is giving free on UA-cam. True legend. I learnt a lot about corporate finance from him.

    • @dolevmazker736
      @dolevmazker736 Рік тому +5

      me too, his work really helped me

    • @MrSupernova111
      @MrSupernova111 Рік тому +12

      Not only that but the quality of his lectures exceeds that of just about any paid course.

    • @frankyohance4625
      @frankyohance4625 Рік тому +2

      His course is excellent

    • @kurtilein3
      @kurtilein3 Рік тому +13

      Patrick Boyle has a complete university-level course about "Applied Portfolio Management" on his channel for free. He does teach on advanced finance topics at university. He did run a successful hedge fund which made profit year after year and start to finish, which is rare. He closed it down knowing that his strategies can only work in a certain volume range, and continues running his strategies with his own money. He won numerous awards. Coffezilla is an excellent youtuber and content producer in the financial area, Boyle is a beast when it comes to credentials in the financial industry.

    • @AJ-iu6nw
      @AJ-iu6nw Рік тому +5

      Is this one of those "Contact Mr. Wilson" for my "financial" education type comments? because we won't contact him.

  • @Aditya19012
    @Aditya19012 Рік тому +89

    Huge respect to Professor Damodaran for giving us the experience of learning from the best for free..He's doing an amazing work for people like me who want to make it big in the world of finance

  • @benjjjaamiinn
    @benjjjaamiinn Рік тому +43

    Aswath's channel is one of my favorites to plagiar- adapt from! Only second to The Plain Bagel!

    • @ThePlainBagel
      @ThePlainBagel  Рік тому +21

      Oh my God it's Benjamin

    • @tommy7613
      @tommy7613 Рік тому +1

      Benjamin, you know degenerates aren't allowed on this channel. Jkjk but when's the next video coming out?

    • @francescoghizzo
      @francescoghizzo Рік тому +11

      @@ThePlainBagel Damodaran, Plain Bagel, Patrick Boyle and Sven Carlin are the best finance channels on UA-cam.
      But only Benjamin teaches you how to leverage like Bill Hwang!

  • @ErikLivelyScottsdale
    @ErikLivelyScottsdale Рік тому +29

    In 2012 I worked for a software company selling business valuation software for accountants. I didn't know anything about business valuation. In searching the internet I found Dr. Damordaran's MBA valuation classes. Over the next 3 months at night and on weekends I basically took the entire class for free. It was amazing. I was helping our programmers find bugs and issues in the software and I knew more than the people that were using the software yo help actual clients. He's a great teacher and it's awesome what he's contributed to learning through his free online content. You can get 50k of learning for free.

  • @hadleyjolley3375
    @hadleyjolley3375 Рік тому +16

    As to Universities: I've never heard of a school that was upset about a professor providing public education in their field. If MOOCs have taught us anything it is that though knowledge may be free, grading and one-on-one experiences cost money.

  • @fail_fast
    @fail_fast Рік тому +16

    Dude, I can't believe you got Damodaran in for an interview. Value Legend over here
    Seems like you're on an interview spree rn - can we please get Roaring Kitty next? 😸

  • @Jos_Louis
    @Jos_Louis Рік тому +20

    Damnnnn Richard, you're moving on up if you're securing some high profile guests like Prof. Damodaran on your podcast/UA-cam videos!
    Congrats on the amazing opportunity and thank you for sharing. This was a great discussion!

  • @kuenmao
    @kuenmao Рік тому +65

    "Created by the paranoid for the paranoid". That's such a great way to summarize the beliefs behind bitcoin, and speaks so well to the problems of adoption.

    • @James-vj5hz
      @James-vj5hz Рік тому +3

      I like having a paranoia allocation in a portfolio. Without it, you can't really claim to have diversification.
      As an internationalist, I value having the ability to move my personally owned value anywhere in the world. I can't do that with my TFSA or RRSP if the government of Canada becomes hostile in any way.
      Bitcoin isn't an investment, like a cash flowing business. It's just a bearer asset that is digital.

    • @wachtwoord5796
      @wachtwoord5796 Рік тому +1

      What is paranoid and what is being aware and diligent wrt a legitimate risk is always going to be subjective. And after such a risk materializes (or not) everyone suddenly will treat it as if whatever the outcome was was a given a priori.
      It is possible to value Bitcoin. Not by cash flow, and not very exact because there are so many large unknowns that will heavily impact thar but it's highly likely to be undervalued by several orders of magnitude.
      At the same time it's more heavily undervalued relative to the "other cryptos" (very few of them are cryptocurrencies and 99.99% are just outright scam but I have to summarize it somehow) than it is relative to fiat currencies. So people buying/owning eg Ethereum over Bitcoin is much more insane to me then people choosing not to buy/own either. At least the latter is a logically consistent take.

    • @erikdeca
      @erikdeca Рік тому

      Just because you're paranoid does not mean that the WEF and the top 0.1% are not out to make sure you become and remain poor.

    • @fadedflage
      @fadedflage Рік тому +2

      It isnt paranoia when they really are after you

    • @dobariyanaitikdineshbhai6832
      @dobariyanaitikdineshbhai6832 5 місяців тому

      @@James-vj5hz It is more likely that you'll lose your money in crypto than the Canadian government would go hostile especially run after a person.

  • @vonb2792
    @vonb2792 Рік тому +6

    i dont know who is more excited seeing this interview... Richard or me ! I discovered Dr.Aswath thanks to the pandemic and been learning since

  • @ellemarr7234
    @ellemarr7234 Рік тому +90

    As someone who misses university learning, I will be forever grateful for brilliant guests sharing their knowledge with us. Big up 😊

    • @juljk8397
      @juljk8397 Рік тому

      He’s wrong about BTC, I encourage you to look at my other comment

    • @ellemarr7234
      @ellemarr7234 Рік тому +6

      @@juljk8397 ok thank you random, anonymous person. We shall take your advice and not this fool’s. As if 👋

    • @juljk8397
      @juljk8397 Рік тому

      @@ellemarr7234 look for my comment and then DYOR. You shouldnt always listen to influencers online lol

    • @ErikLivelyScottsdale
      @ErikLivelyScottsdale Рік тому +3

      Dr. Damodaran literally wrote the book on valuation. He is who presidents and CEO's listen to.

    • @samuelbarnes9243
      @samuelbarnes9243 Рік тому +2

      @@juljk8397 Even if he's wrong about Crypto/BTC (and I actually disagree with about half of his thoughts on Crypto/BTC), he's an incredibly smart man with a lot of knowledge and experience in the world of investing. It pays to listen to him and learn from him even if you may not agree with everything he says. I believe in forming your own opinion in life but doing so under the guidance of smart people that are experts in their field. I am a crypto made millionaire and a large proponent of the space and yet I can confidently say that Dr. Aswath is one of the main teachers that have shaped my thoughts and opinions on investing and helped lead me towards success.

  • @danielmerinsky467
    @danielmerinsky467 Рік тому +9

    The legend of finance himself. I use prof. Damodaran's data that he publishes for free at my work literally everyday.

  • @JStack
    @JStack Рік тому +5

    This is not a troll/bot comment. Damodaran’s tips for evaluating a stock and “telling a story,” about it opened my eyes to better analysis. There is no free money glitch, but akin to understanding the math of poker, it gives you a higher level of information to work with than you had prior.

  • @geekytraveler5899
    @geekytraveler5899 Рік тому +27

    Haven't watched it yet, but I'm already in for the video. You've got the legendary person on the interview
    Prof Damodaran's was my first book in Corp finances about 10 years ago and my deepest respect to this man.
    Looking forward for content here.
    PS: I'm a software dev guy, but when I was working for wall st - I believed in knowing more about the domain.

  • @AlexFlavell
    @AlexFlavell Рік тому +3

    The collaboration I never knew I needed!!!

  • @nanazinhaamaral
    @nanazinhaamaral Рік тому +12

    Could not believe this interview! Well done getting the mr. Myagi, the yoda, the absolute master from where all of ou financial models are based on. I bow to both of you MVPs

  • @Z.November
    @Z.November Рік тому +3

    He has a very calming voice.

  • @chrissavory1858
    @chrissavory1858 Рік тому +4

    Loved your channel for a long time but this might be my single favourite video. I could listen to Aswath speak forever. Great job with the topics and questions.

  • @MenwithHill
    @MenwithHill Рік тому +2

    So great to see you with Aswath. He's such a knowledgeable man, way above all but a few on this website.

  • @1Route69
    @1Route69 Рік тому +4

    I’m gonna just say it: this is GOLD! Thank you. Both.

  • @ipwnatcallofduty99
    @ipwnatcallofduty99 Рік тому +2

    I’ve been waiting for him to release a new video on his UA-cam. Now he’s on here!

  • @mbeeck
    @mbeeck Рік тому +3

    What a fantastic conversation. Congrats for bringing good questions to the table!

  • @TheStringBreaker
    @TheStringBreaker Рік тому +2

    *Impressive and respectable that you had Aswath Damodaran on!*

  • @francescoghizzo
    @francescoghizzo Рік тому +23

    Prof. Damodaran's classes were my first introduction to finance!
    One of the best finance channels on UA-cam hosting one of the best finance professors in the world 😊

    • @juljk8397
      @juljk8397 Рік тому

      He got bitcoin wrong though, you can even read my comment on this vid

  • @Studeb
    @Studeb Рік тому +4

    This guy is great, he said exactly the sentence I have said many times but seen nobody else say: "All crypto in the world was at the peak valued the same as the biggest company in the world", really not that much in the grand scheme of things.

    • @Drift0x
      @Drift0x Рік тому

      So I think you have to choose: staying out of the game while it's still early, take your slice (let's say 5% of your whole portfolio) now at very low price, or waiting when it will be too late and see another train running 200 mph speed when you could take it when it was at the station with the doors opened?

    • @Ravi-xf8dw
      @Ravi-xf8dw Рік тому

      @@Drift0x the problem is what if he invest through their party apps and they go bankrupt like celcius

  • @AJ-iu6nw
    @AJ-iu6nw Рік тому +2

    wow. you got the prof. Congrats Richard

  • @NeMatiosaitis
    @NeMatiosaitis Рік тому +2

    One of the best interviews.

  • @nrpbrown
    @nrpbrown Рік тому +2

    This is an amazing interview, thank you. I'm going to go to his channel right now, this guy's something else.

  • @shaivahnparsons3244
    @shaivahnparsons3244 Рік тому +6

    We are in the era where you can get MBA level courses for free online from anywhere in the world from professors like Dr Damodaran. Its breaking down barriers to entry and preventing elitists that can afford to go to prestigious business schools from gatekeeping their professions.

    • @heronekkotheanimer7386
      @heronekkotheanimer7386 Рік тому

      Yep, and that is only after 20 years of Internet as a common thing for people. Soon we may have access to most human knowledge on the tip of our hands and that will be awesome and sad, because I am sure that the mayority of people wont use said benefits.

  • @paragkar8885
    @paragkar8885 Рік тому

    Prof Damodram I have tremendous respect for the work that you are doing. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

  • @zackrodriguez6653
    @zackrodriguez6653 Рік тому +1

    Happy to see a fellow Damodaran-head, big upvote

  • @edwinbrace4681
    @edwinbrace4681 Рік тому +1

    This is a GEM of a channel !

  • @g.t.c7647
    @g.t.c7647 Рік тому

    Nice job on getting Dr. Damodaran!

  • @riadirige7804
    @riadirige7804 Рік тому +3

    this is a great interview! i learned so much from you and your guest!

  • @kirthanshaker1951
    @kirthanshaker1951 11 місяців тому

    A complete genius in his field. Thank you for Educating, Sir.

  • @minma02262
    @minma02262 Рік тому

    Really enjoyed this interview. Thank you for making this happen.

  • @Mrfoo2002
    @Mrfoo2002 Рік тому +1

    Incredible interview

  • @arsalanheydari4426
    @arsalanheydari4426 Рік тому +1

    thank you Richard for inviting the professor.

  • @Flying_Scorpion
    @Flying_Scorpion Рік тому +8

    I really liked what he had to say about crypto, especially bringing back to mind that it was originally sold as a new form of currency, but it's severely lacking in reliability and stability, too much so to be used effectively as a currency. Then pointing out that the real reason people buy it, is because they think they can sell it later for a profit. That was great to hear him put into words.

  • @kikolatulipe
    @kikolatulipe Рік тому

    Huge guest ! One of the best in the industry !

  • @thomas6502
    @thomas6502 9 місяців тому

    Excellent guest and discussion. Thank you both!

  • @marinabaskakova2333
    @marinabaskakova2333 Рік тому

    Thank you for this interview!

  • @ajrobbins368
    @ajrobbins368 Рік тому

    Excellent interview, thanks.

  • @TheUnlistedOne
    @TheUnlistedOne Рік тому +1

    Love the video! Aswath is awesome!

  • @ihordyba2717
    @ihordyba2717 Рік тому

    Thanks a lot for this conversation!

  • @skyaudi7416
    @skyaudi7416 Рік тому +1

    That was a great guest and a good interview.

  • @ThanhCongTC
    @ThanhCongTC Рік тому +1

    Great podcast, Richard!

  • @spikenova7295
    @spikenova7295 Рік тому +1

    Amazing collab!

  • @DavidSmith-do6ji
    @DavidSmith-do6ji 8 місяців тому

    So much respect for Dr Aswath Damodaran he is an absolute legend, such a smart and kind man to share his knowledge!

  • @nwgverified
    @nwgverified Рік тому +1

    Good job getting on someone who knows what he's talking about

  • @onlymanoj
    @onlymanoj Рік тому

    Eye opening. Thanks for posting this.

  • @jjh7611
    @jjh7611 Рік тому +4

    It’s well said and I’ve been preaching the same idea in many different concepts in life. People are different. There isn’t one golden rule for every person out there. This goes for trading, dieting pretty much anything

  • @HeartoftheMatter
    @HeartoftheMatter Рік тому

    Awesome interview. Thanks!

  • @Carefreeblues
    @Carefreeblues Рік тому

    Gosh this guy brings me back to my uni finance courses.

  • @davidecastello8801
    @davidecastello8801 Рік тому +4

    I'm starting the video and I don't remember the last time I had soo high expectations... what a guest

  • @BaldInvestor
    @BaldInvestor Рік тому

    Great, interesting and wise conversation. Thank you very much.

  • @marqkamamerg9019
    @marqkamamerg9019 Рік тому +1

    Ive learned a lot. Thank you very much

  • @gn3997
    @gn3997 Рік тому +1

    Awesome content and even a better guest!

  • @mayankpant64
    @mayankpant64 Рік тому +1

    Excellent Video ! very informational for any beginner investor looking to study about valuations.

  • @SmarandaC
    @SmarandaC Рік тому +1

    Oh this was awesome 👌

  • @andrewcameron4277
    @andrewcameron4277 Рік тому

    Thank you for your content

  • @dvoiceotruth
    @dvoiceotruth 9 місяців тому

    I had this intrinsic feeling which he clarified with the example in the beginning.

  • @anthonykuanda1762
    @anthonykuanda1762 Рік тому +2

    Great video. Alot of insight for investing 👍

  • @MrSupernova111
    @MrSupernova111 Рік тому +7

    Huge fan of Dr. Aswath Damodaran here from back in my college days. He's a legend. Cheers!

    • @juljk8397
      @juljk8397 Рік тому

      I encourage you to think twice about that and look at my comment

  • @gorandamchevski
    @gorandamchevski Рік тому +1

    THANK YOU

  • @ramyazoury4789
    @ramyazoury4789 Рік тому

    Great interview !

  • @neuvocastezero1838
    @neuvocastezero1838 Рік тому

    Wow, great interview, keep up the good work.

  • @kevinmoore9655
    @kevinmoore9655 Рік тому

    Richard, another great episode. I originally found you through your interview with Patrick Boyle, now another great find with this interview. And thanks to Dr. Damodaran for giving us his time an great insights.

  • @justcommenting4981
    @justcommenting4981 Рік тому

    Excellent video. Amazing guest. Really superb.

  • @Kraktur
    @Kraktur Рік тому

    Thanks a lot, great reference

  • @Akixkisu
    @Akixkisu Рік тому +1

    Lovely guest and interesting talk :)

  • @taneishar1994
    @taneishar1994 18 днів тому

    This was a great interview. I am so glad I listened to it period thank you and the good doctor for allowing us into your conversation

  • @kennysmith1925
    @kennysmith1925 Рік тому

    What a guest. The man the legend

  • @Storming32
    @Storming32 Рік тому +1

    Literally saw this guy in a meme this morning and now he's here on Plain Bagel.

  • @GT-tj1qg
    @GT-tj1qg Рік тому +1

    Fantastic insights about Bitcoin

  • @sahilchib5842
    @sahilchib5842 Рік тому

    Great video Richard ❤

  • @juanvicencio2390
    @juanvicencio2390 Рік тому +5

    I love Damodaran. his classes are amazing, and I aced my job interview cause all the things I learned in his class. I will be forever grateful for his generosity

  • @rteddydacius
    @rteddydacius Рік тому +5

    Superbe Interview. Clear questions and clear answers. No unnecessary fluff. Straight game.💯

  • @simonroese2596
    @simonroese2596 Рік тому

    Thankyou very much 😊 ☺️

  • @geoffreybomber
    @geoffreybomber Рік тому +11

    I’m about 2/3 through my first reading of Graham’s Intelligent Investor and this was such a wonderful modern application of those ideas. I’m trying my hardest to not jump on the fire sale going on right now in the market, demonstrating the other side of patience in the market.

  • @MeriadocTook-zu2bm
    @MeriadocTook-zu2bm 28 днів тому

    THIS IS SUPER COOL!

  • @patraprateek
    @patraprateek Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @Goforitmanager
    @Goforitmanager Рік тому +7

    Wow, I always appreciate Dr. Damodaran such a straight shooter and interesting to listen.
    Made a 48 minute video seem like 10 minutes.

  • @whatisheartscont2be645
    @whatisheartscont2be645 Рік тому

    Amazing.

  • @Its.melvin
    @Its.melvin Рік тому

    Oh dang big catch today Mr Bagel.

  • @JoshDillon
    @JoshDillon Рік тому +1

    Love that audio visualizer used when the Dr. was taking. What software did you use to get that effect?

  • @AmrishKelkar
    @AmrishKelkar Рік тому +2

    Re : "even in a room full of bitcoiners, the answer is almost 'never', as to when they last actually used it to buy something". The reason is not entirely because of what the prof states thereafter - that it is too volatile to use as currency. That is partly it, but, in part it is also Greshams law which says that when there's hard money and weak money (fiat) , the rational actor will spend the weak money (fiat) while hoarding the hard money (bitcoin).

  • @hideehere
    @hideehere Рік тому

    finally they're getting the eyeballs they deserve

  • @Paulik753
    @Paulik753 28 днів тому

    Aswath is very on point w/ the cryptocurrency section. Awesome.

  • @AnkitSharma-dk1bo
    @AnkitSharma-dk1bo Рік тому

    Thanks

  • @vib_di
    @vib_di Рік тому +2

    Much of Mr. Damodaran's Advises are similar to what Benjamin Grahm has to offer in Intelligent Investor. Those 4 rules:- 1) No less than 10 stocks and no more than 30, 2) Company Should Be Large, Prominent, and conservatively financed. 3) Solid track record of Dividend Payouts, 4) As company has a limit of profit earning, So does you should have a limit of the price to pay for the stock. And the last 50% stock and 50% bond or at least 25% bonds and 75% Stocks.

  • @muffemod
    @muffemod Рік тому +1

    pricing reflects all available information (to include valuation).

  • @hiphophead8053
    @hiphophead8053 Рік тому

    Now we're talking 😎

  • @asishreddy7729
    @asishreddy7729 Рік тому +9

    The comparison between bitcoin and dog poop made me crack up so hard 😂 Dr Damodaran actually made a serious comparison saying dog poop is scarce as well wasn’t even trolling he actually meant it and that made the whole thing 10x funnier

  • @syariq7732
    @syariq7732 Рік тому

    i learned so much from this video. that why im now investing all my life saving in dog poop.

  • @PeterChaoDaBomb
    @PeterChaoDaBomb Рік тому +2

    Love your content Richard! Do you think you could get Dr.Mark Meldrum on for one of these episodes??

  • @henrryhernandez8913
    @henrryhernandez8913 Рік тому +1

    This is great. Why you didn't do it before. I remember I wrote a comment a long time ago about this professor. People can learn from his classes.

  • @AlexanderLoh
    @AlexanderLoh Рік тому +1

    This was a really great interview. Thanks for getting him on your channel.
    I never knew about Dr Damodaran, but now he's got a new fan.

  • @smvinay1206
    @smvinay1206 Рік тому +1

    Wow.... repressed actor... this is one of the best videos... really loved it...

  • @lindleycoetzee8964
    @lindleycoetzee8964 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the interview. Think you should consider to look at Cardano. Lots more transactions and utilization. Also including voting, decentralized identity and gaming.

  • @John-thinks
    @John-thinks 20 годин тому

    legend!!!!!