The character significance of maruki being a taxi driver is phenomenal. He went from changing people realities on where HE thinks they should go and now as a taxi driver he takes people to where THEY WANT to go themselves subtle briliant character writing
fun fact, he can still be a shoulder to rest on. something that also indirectly caused his palace's existence is that he as a counselor & therapist, grew too close to the phantom thieves, very specifically Joker. as a taxi driver, he'll still be able to hear people's stories from time-to-time, and give him his genuine advice. chances are that he'll never grow close to his clients, and will let them go as he helps them get to where they want to go, like you said.
What I enjoyed most about your playthrough was your engagement in the game. This really felt like JC’s Persona 5 Royal and not Persona 5 Royal. How much you analyzed the story, characters, and themes really made me understand this game on a deeper level and made me love it more. And the most significant part of that engagement is that (in no offense) he was very unoptimal in the game. In my playthrough, I already got the most busted Personas in the game, like Lucifer, Chi You, Beelzebub, and Izanagi-no-Okami Picaro by Shido’s palace. I maxed ranked every confidant before Christmas and steamrolled through most of the game. I got every character’s best weapons, including Makoto’s +22 to all stats gun. Persona is a game in which the more you put into it, the more powerful you get. I put a lot of time into getting that power and don’t regret playing like that. However, JC spent much more time analyzing the story and acting like he was in it. So many times, I was like, “Why do you still have medium wind magic on Angel,” “Why don’t itemize this Persona to get this busted item,” or “Why don’t you have auto all stats up” when I had those by Sae’s palace. However, this made me see more of the intent behind the boss fights. It made me so excited to see you tackle bosses like Okumura and Yaldaboath when, in my playthrough, I was so powerful I beat Yaldaboath by putting my controller down and pressing the auto-attack rush button. I got to feel so much more immersed in a world I saw as just another game in this series to get powerful in, while JC saw this as a brand new world he had no idea about. He brought so many new perspectives that I must thank JC for playing this game. I’m sure it made many people like me happy to see others loving our favorite games. I’m not a Twitch sub, I didn’t gift 160 subs or donate 262 dollars, but I hope my comments and viewership are enough to signal how thankful I am for your playthrough. (And PS, you would get a big kick out of Xenoblade Chronicles games. Those will rock your socks off)
His analysis was sometimes a little shallow (taking 15 minutes to say infidelity is bad/ he kept on saying "but the world can't be perfect because it isn't meant to be") but I agree. This series was fun
That part of the credits song at 8:54:38 had me feeling the same way... It's like the realization that the game is over hits you all at once. Also, amazing playthrough! Really fun to watch on the side while editing :^)
JC gets it. Maruki's reality robs everyone something that makes them human, their desires. It is no different than Jaldabaoth, even if the intentions are different.
That's why mementos the living embodiment of the human subconscious, a place of pure chaos and dreams looked so clean and pure when he took over. He didn't just fix people's problems, he robbed them of all their desires.
Did he rob them of their desires though? Most people were still able to follow their dreams. Ryuji was still able to pursue his dreams of running track and he was being scouted by colleges, and Yusuke was able to continue doing art, this time with a mentor who actually treated him like a human being instead of exploiting him for ideas and taking advantage of him. In most cases their wants and desires are still there, it’s just that now they’re able to follow them more easily than before.
@@catalyst539 I think the point is that he was never going to achieve success in art. So instead of the PT set up the guy for failure in life and starvation. We also don’t know if the guy had interest in archery either, so he could’ve been someone who chose wrong in life and paid for it. Could’ve found happiness and achievement in archery but never did cuz he made one wrong choice in career. The game falls for the P4 problem of making the main characters right without considering the nuances of where they’re wrong.
I remember the first time I played the game, I was in an Airbnb. It was sweltering outside, and I was bored outta my mind. As I was exploring around the house, I discovered a PS3 and two games: a copy of Persona 5, and a copy of Yakuza 3. Instinctively, my hand gravitated towards Persona 5 as the game to play. I booted it up, and before I knew it, I had played the game for three days straight. When I left that Airbnb, I had just finished Futaba's palace and I was devastated to leave. I didn't own any PlayStation consoles at the time, and I wasn't really in a situation where I could justify buying one for a single game, and I eventually forgot about it entirely. It wasn't until I heard about Royal being released on PC that I remembered this game existed. As soon as the game released on Steam, I bought it (my first game ever purchased). I played it NONSTOP. When I finished this game, I was an emotional wreck for a week. It was totally worth it though. Since then, I've done NG+, and a third run of the game with Japanese voiceovers instead of English. (As a side note, my play time for all three runs of the game combined was just around 300 hours haha. You are really a yap master.) I'm so glad that chat (mostly) behaved well in your playthrough, JC. Watching you react to my favorite scenes is the closest I have gotten to reliving the experience of playing the game for the first time. Thank you man.
man that Airbnb had banger games P5 and Yakuza (seriously if you ever get the chance pick up the Yakuza games their on PC and they might be your next fav series i'd recommend Yakuza Zero to start unless your more into turn based games then try out Yakuza Like a Dragon (aka 7 which you can play without the other games)
JC slowly joining the Akechi club was so fun to watch. Man went from intrigue to mild suspicion to distrust to eventual trust to liking him to hating him to feeling bad for him to being excited for him to come back to loving him and not wanting him to go. GORO AKECHI IS A ROLLERCOASTER. Speaking of Akechi, analysis time. I love Persona 5 Royal so MUCH. It's actually wild. The song playing during the end has lyrics that pretty much seem to be Joker missing Akechi after he disappeared. Or thinking about how he'll disappear if they continue with the mission. Very sad. Especially due to their complicated relationship. Anyway, there are a number of reasons why I think Maruki's claims about Akechi are unintentionally false and he's still alive. For starters, there's a cut scene in the game files that takes place with Akechi in rehab and he mentions having to go back to help someone he owes. Obviously, this isn't taking place in Royal time since he'd be with the group. The original vanilla timeline occurs. Which would suggest that he survived the vanilla game engine room soon as well but just escaped. I'm guessing this scene would've played with the other rank 10 confidants who tried to help Joker while he was in Juvie but was cut out so as to not spoil the surprise. The other confidants only get a scene where they help Joker when you get them to rank 10. And what's the only way to get the true ending where Akechi shows up? By getting him to rank 10. He ends up doing something to help Joker too and is presumably leaving. If you don't get him to rank 10, I think he flat out doesn't show up in the cutscene. So it's not like a hallucination. As for Maruki's claims, his hold on the world has been stated to be unstable so he hasn't gotten to knowing what everyone is thinking just yet. In fact, he hasn't even met Akechi. He only knew what Joker knew and wanted. Joker assumed Akechi didn't survive the engine room because of Futaba's claims, but he wanted a second chance with him. So Maruki assumed Akechi was dead and acted accordingly by giving him different memories. But if Akechi is just here because Joker wished for it and Maruki actualized it, why didn't he disappear immediately like Wakaba or Okumura once the actualization was broken and Joker knew the truth? Because the only thing Maruki did was pull Akechi away from wherever he was, he didn't bring him back to life to all. Joker's wish was for Akechi to have a second chance with him. For him to show up. And so by granting that wish, Akechi was yanked away and brought over to Joker. Once Maruki is taken down, Akechi goes back to where he was. Akechi and Joker live on. And whether soon or far away in the future, they'll have their rematch. But until then, Joker's holding on to his glove. Until they meet again.
Man, I've played through this game many times, cried each and every single time. I've watched several playthroughs and managed to get emotional every time the credits rolled, but never have I cried along with a streamer this way. I study psychology in both my free time as well as for my education. For my education we tend to look at the behavior of people of all age groups, and analyze their behavioral patterns to connect their actions and their personality traits to certain factors. (Basically, trying to determine what a person who acts a certain way would really think or feel about certain factors) Unironically, Maruki was a character that, 4 years ago, got me so heavily invested in wanting to become a psychologist/therapist. Not only do I like to psychoanalyse fictional characters (mainly those from the Persona franchise) but I also had my interest peaked in JC as a streamer, because of how entertaining he is and how entertaining his reactions to certain parts of the game are. Though many times it is obvious that some reactions to scenes are exaggerated for content sake (nothing wrong with that, it makes perfect sense) a certain few weren't, and those were the most interesting parts of his Lets Play. Faking genuine sadness is one of the hardest thing to do, and JC's tears were more than genuine. Seeing such an energetic person almost break character by letting go of all that raw emotion was priceless to see. Him crying to small conversations with Confidants and even NPC's showed how much he actually cared about the game, whether it was just the game and its world paired with its characters, or if it was the memories he made while playing it (Or both.) Seeing someone show this kind of genuine emotion really hit me in my feels because Persona simply means so much to me as a person. Seeing someone expirience EXACTLY what I felt the first time playing it and reacting accordingly was extremely heartwarming to me in a way. Seeing him cry near the end the way he did made it clear to me that everything he said about enjoying the game start to finish and becoming connected to the cast was genuine, and that is what made this playthrough of Persona 5 Royal the best playthrough I have ever watched. Not many can juggle being energetic, entertaining, funny, and genuine all at the same time. It's either the first three, or only the last one. So JC, as someone who discovered you through your Persona 5 Royal playthrough, I want to tell you just how unique of a streamer I think you are, and how much I appreciate you and your love and care for the games you play, along with still managing to be entertaining, inclusive and engaging. I think it's genuinely a talent, and I believe it says alot about you as a person. So thank you.
My favorite part about the fight with Maruki is not just that you're fighting any version of God. You've beaten the God of Control, but the step up from that isn't a greater God. No, Azathoth and Adam Kadmon are both his power, not the being itself. No, you are fighting _a messiah._
No, your fighting a good friend trying to do a good thing, it’s hard for different reasons, it’s somewhat more difficult than fighting a God, but also Maruki just thinks of himself as a messiah
Though it is a spin-off, the Persona series tends to operate on a lot of the same rules as that of the Shin Megami Tensei series. In that series, the "messiah" is typically the player character- in-game, a character chosen by a higher will to change history- and on a meta level, chosen by the game developer to be the player's window into the world. Joker is "the" messiah in this sense- but Maruki is the one who literally takes the throne of the defeated demiurge. Were this a Megaten game, Maruki WOULD be a stand-in not for a messiah, but for YHVH.
My gf and I were watching this all day. She only knows P5R through what I've shared and talking about your weekly streams, and it was a real bonding experience watching the finale together and crying with you. You're one of her favorite people now too. We were passing out by the end so I didn't catch when you said you'd do the post-yap, so I unfortunately missed it! This has been such an amazing part of this last year, and I am so grateful to have had you (and the team, and your chat community) to hang out with on some of those hard nights. Love you all and looking forward to what comes next! - ❤ gnollip
I was watching this playthrough off and on over the year with my dog on both this channel and twitch and on fathers day weekend my dog passed. I caught myself a few times making comments about the last vods i watched to no one but myself. The end of Maruki's arch felt like myself going through it the first time. The whole scene with Maruki reaching to the sky before the ground shattering below him and the piano playing-- I felt that scene like I never had before this time. It all happened so quickly and now he's gone. He did go peacefully though. I just wanted to share that, though. If you happen to read this, I don't want you to feel bad for me or anything. Your p5r videos have actually brought me some joy in this hard time, so thank you. I just finished your last video. I really hope the best for your channel going forward. Thank you!
Thank you for the fun and amazing game. A while back, there was a councling student who did reviews of Maruki's councling sessions. That might be worth a watch on stream.
I've played this game over three times but Maruki's screams of frustration at the end and trying to reason with Joker for turning his back to the original reality shatters my heart everytime...I GAVE UP EVERYTHING! EVERYTHING!!!! SO WHY?!!! WHY?! WHY RUMI?!!!
The voice work in this game is so impeccable, especially Maruki. Its prob the best out of the entire series if ima be honest and I felt every emotion these characters felt throughout the journey. R.I.P to Billy Kametz man, what a legend.
It was one of my favorites streams ever, and I'm so glad I could be there for it. Thank you for the amazing journey and I'm glad that he enjoyed it as much as we did
you’re one of the only persona play through you tubers that have throughly analyzed the game for what it is while completing it. thank you for appreciating the series and for the time spent on it!! hope u get to play the other games in the series, i particularly think p3r will get u in the feels and p4g will have you laughing ☺️ thank you!!
I remember finishing the game for the first time and crying as much as you. It was a crazy ride and it was so enjoyable to watch you experience it for the first time. Congrats on finishing P5R JC!
P5R is one of the greatest games ever made, and what really puts it over the top for me is the third semester, from the new Akechi content and Maruki's and Sumire's stories this game is absolutely amazing.
How you know a characters development was amazing, when it’s so good it made a streamer publicly and truly apologize to the fans for saying he hated them so long ago. 😂
"Please Haru reach the cup" - so thankful that I found your channel while you were playing 2 of my favorite games in FF16 and P5. I look on youtube here to see if I can find reaction videos to some of my favorite games after I've played them and you have been a treat to watch JC. Hate that I have a hard time catching you live due to my work schedule but supporting you from the shadows my man
As someone who only found jc because I decided to finish persona 5 around the time he was streaming I became a huge fan of this dude entirely, he’s such an entertaining streamer and his chat is absolutely AMAZING glad to be apart of the subscribers
JC you said you wanted to give us the experience of playing for the first time again, and you did. I haven’t seen most of these scenes since 2020, and I bawled my eyes out with you by the end.
The part of Our Light in 8:54:39 is what made me really feel emotional. Especially looking up the English lyrics afterwards. 😭 P5R my all time favorite game.
This game me make change the way I see life. I play it in a really bad moment of my life and it make me feel happy again. I love it so much and now is a very important piece of who I am. Im glad you enjoyed so much, seeing people reacting to this game makes me feel like those days I was playing it
Crazy finally seeing you finish this. I remember being so hyped when you started this over a year ago, and its so satisfying to see you get it done. Lets go gamers.
I couldn't finish the stream but as he was saying his goodbyes I had to go. I was there, wonderful playthrough. THANK YOU JC FOR PLAYING PERSONA!!!!!! My friend bought me both p5 and p5r and it was my first ever persona game. It has changed my life and your playthrough made me fall in love with the game again, I'm a new viewer and I got into your streams when that first persona video came out, would love to see you play persona 3 reload and eventually persona 4 golden. I know you got other games first and all, but I'll be here for those other games and persona games I'm the future
Without a doubt one of the best Let’s Play series I’ve ever seen you’ve earned a sub and so much more! You are a great creator JC and I can’t wait to see what new adventures come your way! This is my first series with you and definitely won’t be the last. Such an emotional story and one of my all time favorite games. I’m on play through number 3 now and it never gets old. CaliDreamers Forever!
By far and away my favorite and I would say the best playthrough of Royal man... felt surreal when it started, was so fun and exciting to see you get through the beginning and meet the characters and realize how the game works and everything. Watching you grow to love everyone and dissect so much of the story, where most other people don't or not nearly as much or whatever, I looked forward to every stream, enjoyed the vods as something chill to help sleep a lotta nights, listened to ones I missed at work like a podcast, it was such an enjoyable experience beginning to end sharing it with you like we did, a crazy what, 18 months? Something we'll never forget for sure 💙
I think the implication is that the Royal trio was in their right mind from the start, so they did not have to 'revert' in their cognition. Thus Sumi has that picture.
everyone talks about p5 strikers but no one tells him to play p5 tactica. I think he should play tactica first. In the timeline, it takes place after the og ending and before the third semester. meanwhile Strikers takes place in summer time (after royal). tactica is also shorter and including akachi and sumire (with dlc story expention). The only problems with Tactica are that although the gameplay is very enjoyable, it is very easy once you set up the strategy well and it feels overpriced when compared to others.
Thanks for everything, JC. I won’t be sticking around for the next streams since I only watch content on games I’ve already played, but I’ll keep your channel in the back of my mind.
I followed your playthrough in small intervals and came here to watch the end. It's okay, we all cried like babies when this ride was over. It was fun to see your sincere reactions to this masterpiece.
It has been an amazing journey to see you find the magic that only a first time playthrough of Persona 5 Royal can bring. I am happy you loved the game and I hope you check out Persona 4 Golden or Persona 3 Reload when you have recovered from the post-P5 come down. You did it bud! ❤🎉
favorite playthrough of all time its not even close!!!!!! it even made me finish the game so i could cry even more when you beat it😭😭 i am so gonna try and stick around for your future streams, your vibe and tangents are the best i love them so much THANK YOU JC🫶🫶
JC, I just wanted to thank you for the upload. I've been struggling with a lot of rejection in life and this honestly made my day. I'm gonna take an edible and enjoy this. Thank you so much!
Watching you play made me want to play too! I played the original P5 a few years ago, but never beat Royal. But I just beat it and MAN the Royal exclusive content is so good. Thanks for this awesome playthrough and for making me want to experience this amazing game again. It really felt like you made this playthrough your own. I'm so glad you got invested, weren't shy about taking the time to theory-craft and speculate, it made it so much more fun to watch and experience alongside you. I look forward to whatever you do next!
JC You say you dont think Akechi is alive. I think he is, and my reasoning is the timeline was changed. Joker turns himself in on Cristmas Eve, the time you get the Kimono picture with Sumire/Kasumi is New Years. If Joker was behind bars how did he get a picture with her? You then see at the end where you thought it was Akechi. I believe this was, perhaps a gift from Maruki you may have beaten him but he still cares. OR Maruki has just made you think you beat him and tweaked cognition enough that you dont realise it. Bear in mind I havent played Strikers or Tactica which may have touched on this subject (Ive not looked into it because I dont wanna spoil them if I play in future) Edit: I think this comparison video of whether you max out Akechi confidant or not is rather telling ua-cam.com/video/T4jJ926DixI/v-deo.html if you max it you see the guys walking past at the station, if you didnt max it you wouldnt see them.
I found this stream in my recs since I have a sick habit of watching people react to the true ending of this game because I love emotional pain (for both them and myself). After watching this first half now I’m tempted to go and watch the entirety of them all instead of the shortened ones because I imagine they lack the little rant and analysis moments like you had during the talk with Maruki. Glad you really enjoyed the game, and always remember: Thank you Billy Kametz for the goft of your voice and talent. 😢
I still havent watched this, and i havent watched the other streams, i onlu watched the youtube videos, but have to say that i absolutely loved this playthrough, your crazy theories, your fun comments, your reactions, and like i said before your energy. I also love how at you always share your thoughts and opinions, even if sometimes i dont agree with them i like that you always share that, i will watch these "last arc" vods cause honestly i dont want to skip anything from this, after all, this arc is one of the best in the Persona series. I hope that if you play any other cool game you keep this attitude and i hope you play mire Persona games!
He’d love basically any long running or multi part series tbh. One piece, xenoblade (all 3 games and their dlc is relatively chunky) and KH despite what he says *now* seem like his jam man
@@pokefan2136 If you say that you plan to emulate it, then you already know the story of the game, yes? About how it takes place an unknown amount of years after EarthBound/Mother 2?
Please tell me you're going to watch the bad endings and bad ending credits/maruki accepted ending to this game. I've been following you through this game midway through Kamoshidas palace. thank you for taking your time through this game.
What an amazing ride. Discovered your channel by accident and thankful for it - loved your exuberance and sense of wonder throughout. Then I got to watch your Maruki Palace run live while I was literally writing cognitive dissonance mechanics for a cosmic horror rpg. (And got a free sub to boot!). Can't get cooler than that XD You've got a forever fan. (And still occasionally rewatch your _Journey_ playthru... that was magic)
4:31:10 keep in mind, this was deliberate choice for the game writers to expose our own hypocrisy. "You already forced this decision on Futaba, Haru, and Makoto with their parents. See how it feels when you're the receiving end." Is it F'd? Yeah, but you already made your teammates go through with it. Now it's your turn 😂
Ahem... DON'T SLEEP THROUGH DREAMS THAT CAN COME TRUE NO MORE TEARS SHALL DROP FROM YOUR CHEEKS ANYMORE YOU WON'T NEED TO STRIVE FOR GREATNESS BELIEVE IN ME THAT YOU WON'T NEED TO SUFFER FROM ANYTHINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
This was an amazing playthrough that sated my love for this game. However, persona 3 when? (No joke though, loved watching through. I started watching vods for Maruki's arc just so I could get more.)
The thing with Maruki his way is pardoxical. Great intentions make everone happy, but thats impossible. One persons happiness could be another persons suffering, for example a Man could be abusive to his wife, she makes him happy, he loves her but he has a sadistic streak that means her abuse is his happiness. His happiness comes at the expense of hers, she cannot be happy unless his abuse stops. So they cannot both be happy in this scenario. 5:16:16 Unless of course that woman is Makoto apparently Likewise 2 people are striving for the same job, only 1 can get it. Both cant be made happy. Or 1 persons happiness would be to win the gold, but only 1 person can. Or it could be Sumire and Makoto both would be happy to marry Joker. But he can only commit to one. So someone must remain sad. So many ways his world cannot function without him imposing his will upon everyone, so that would make him a tyrant and go against everything he is trying to do. Maruki is the equivelant of giving everyone a participation award and there being no winners or losers.
counterpoint: the man’s tendency for abuse probably stems from some sort of traumatic event or insecurity in his early life. in maruki’s world, the man would have had a better life so he would never become an abuser. people aren’t naturally evil or abusive, if they’re put on the right track they would be normal and happier, which is what marukis goal is
people wanting a good job or “winning gold” and feeling worthless if they don’t is just a symptom of our hyper materialist society that places the value of money over people. who knows, if maruki won society could have possibly been changed on a fundamental level
@@fahadtahir9942 Here’s the thing, humans are basically just animals and their behavior is predictable somewhat. They’re no different form any other physical entity in this world. If you have the right environmental and genetic factors you can basically decide exactly how they turn out. For example, imagine if you had a computer capable of simulating and controlling the entire universe and accounting for every variable imaginable and you gave it some instructions like “make every human being happy”. I believe that this would be possible to accomplish. It’s basically just really complex math at that point. Maruki basically has this ability, he can change the entirety of reality on a whim. If he was able to learn his power better he would most definitely be able to make a scenario where literally every human is happy, especially since he has basically infinite resources. So let’s take your example of the two girls wanting to marry joker. He could easily fix this and structure their initial conditions in such a way that they grow to love someone else, or perhaps change human social dynamics on a fundamental level where things like marriage aren’t even considered the most important way to partake in romance anymore.
The character significance of maruki being a taxi driver is phenomenal. He went from changing people realities on where HE thinks they should go and now as a taxi driver he takes people to where THEY WANT to go themselves subtle briliant character writing
fun fact, he can still be a shoulder to rest on.
something that also indirectly caused his palace's existence is that he as a counselor & therapist, grew too close to the phantom thieves, very specifically Joker.
as a taxi driver, he'll still be able to hear people's stories from time-to-time, and give him his genuine advice. chances are that he'll never grow close to his clients, and will let them go as he helps them get to where they want to go, like you said.
Who else cried with him even though you already saw this so many times
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Me. Every time I watch someone experience this boss for the first time and saying goodbye to everyone, it hurts 😭
meee..
Atlus is making more emotional RPGs than Square Enix could ever hope to make nowadays.
When I played through P5R for the first time it hit me in the feels a bit, but seeing JC play through it hit me like a goddamn semi truck
This man will not be well in 2 years when Memories of You hits
I really hope he does a p3r playthrough
Please rest in peace Billy Kametz the amazing voice of Dr.Maruki who passed away in 2022.
He died of Stage 4 Colon Cancer. Which it's sad :(
RIP Billy Kametz
Shine on Billy, you Crazy Diamond
Gone way too soon.
What I enjoyed most about your playthrough was your engagement in the game. This really felt like JC’s Persona 5 Royal and not Persona 5 Royal. How much you analyzed the story, characters, and themes really made me understand this game on a deeper level and made me love it more.
And the most significant part of that engagement is that (in no offense) he was very unoptimal in the game. In my playthrough, I already got the most busted Personas in the game, like Lucifer, Chi You, Beelzebub, and Izanagi-no-Okami Picaro by Shido’s palace. I maxed ranked every confidant before Christmas and steamrolled through most of the game. I got every character’s best weapons, including Makoto’s +22 to all stats gun. Persona is a game in which the more you put into it, the more powerful you get. I put a lot of time into getting that power and don’t regret playing like that.
However, JC spent much more time analyzing the story and acting like he was in it. So many times, I was like, “Why do you still have medium wind magic on Angel,” “Why don’t itemize this Persona to get this busted item,” or “Why don’t you have auto all stats up” when I had those by Sae’s palace. However, this made me see more of the intent behind the boss fights. It made me so excited to see you tackle bosses like Okumura and Yaldaboath when, in my playthrough, I was so powerful I beat Yaldaboath by putting my controller down and pressing the auto-attack rush button. I got to feel so much more immersed in a world I saw as just another game in this series to get powerful in, while JC saw this as a brand new world he had no idea about. He brought so many new perspectives that I must thank JC for playing this game. I’m sure it made many people like me happy to see others loving our favorite games.
I’m not a Twitch sub, I didn’t gift 160 subs or donate 262 dollars, but I hope my comments and viewership are enough to signal how thankful I am for your playthrough.
(And PS, you would get a big kick out of Xenoblade Chronicles games. Those will rock your socks off)
His analysis was sometimes a little shallow (taking 15 minutes to say infidelity is bad/ he kept on saying "but the world can't be perfect because it isn't meant to be") but I agree. This series was fun
God I’d kill for him to play the entirety of Xenoblade or Kh man. But yeah this playthrough was so special
True!
@@crunchy303 Indubitably
Dude, having izanagi no okami picaro isnt anything special, dude is literally a dlc "press to win button", no wonder you "blasted" trough the game.
That part of the credits song at 8:54:38 had me feeling the same way... It's like the realization that the game is over hits you all at once.
Also, amazing playthrough! Really fun to watch on the side while editing :^)
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I was like
'Hey it was not that bad, I finished it'
'oh... oh.... fuck.... no'
It’s enough to make a grown man cry (I am a teenage girl)
JC gets it. Maruki's reality robs everyone something that makes them human, their desires.
It is no different than Jaldabaoth, even if the intentions are different.
That's why mementos the living embodiment of the human subconscious, a place of pure chaos and dreams looked so clean and pure when he took over.
He didn't just fix people's problems, he robbed them of all their desires.
Did he rob them of their desires though? Most people were still able to follow their dreams. Ryuji was still able to pursue his dreams of running track and he was being scouted by colleges, and Yusuke was able to continue doing art, this time with a mentor who actually treated him like a human being instead of exploiting him for ideas and taking advantage of him. In most cases their wants and desires are still there, it’s just that now they’re able to follow them more easily than before.
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But then consider Yusuke’s artist friend who was made to do archery instead because “Maruki thought that was better for them”
Please rob ny life i just want to be happy
@@catalyst539 I think the point is that he was never going to achieve success in art. So instead of the PT set up the guy for failure in life and starvation. We also don’t know if the guy had interest in archery either, so he could’ve been someone who chose wrong in life and paid for it. Could’ve found happiness and achievement in archery but never did cuz he made one wrong choice in career.
The game falls for the P4 problem of making the main characters right without considering the nuances of where they’re wrong.
SPOILERS
Minor detail but I like the touch that Akechi’s 3rd awakening resists Psy magic after he becomes adamant about no longer being manipulated.
All the times I've completed this game I never noticed that.
What a wild ride this was. Was happy to be here for the finale stream.🖤 For the VOD only watchers, enjoy
I remember the first time I played the game, I was in an Airbnb. It was sweltering outside, and I was bored outta my mind. As I was exploring around the house, I discovered a PS3 and two games: a copy of Persona 5, and a copy of Yakuza 3. Instinctively, my hand gravitated towards Persona 5 as the game to play. I booted it up, and before I knew it, I had played the game for three days straight. When I left that Airbnb, I had just finished Futaba's palace and I was devastated to leave. I didn't own any PlayStation consoles at the time, and I wasn't really in a situation where I could justify buying one for a single game, and I eventually forgot about it entirely.
It wasn't until I heard about Royal being released on PC that I remembered this game existed. As soon as the game released on Steam, I bought it (my first game ever purchased). I played it NONSTOP. When I finished this game, I was an emotional wreck for a week. It was totally worth it though. Since then, I've done NG+, and a third run of the game with Japanese voiceovers instead of English. (As a side note, my play time for all three runs of the game combined was just around 300 hours haha. You are really a yap master.)
I'm so glad that chat (mostly) behaved well in your playthrough, JC. Watching you react to my favorite scenes is the closest I have gotten to reliving the experience of playing the game for the first time. Thank you man.
man that Airbnb had banger games P5 and Yakuza
(seriously if you ever get the chance pick up the Yakuza games their on PC and they might be your next fav series i'd recommend Yakuza Zero to start
unless your more into turn based games then try out Yakuza Like a Dragon (aka 7 which you can play without the other games)
It's incredible how much he got into the story. He's so emotional and a good person. Thank you for streams. I was crying too
8:53:20 Supposedly the illustrations we see at the end were painted by Yosuke, which is why he appears last before the credits.
Don’t make me cry again bruh
JC slowly joining the Akechi club was so fun to watch. Man went from intrigue to mild suspicion to distrust to eventual trust to liking him to hating him to feeling bad for him to being excited for him to come back to loving him and not wanting him to go. GORO AKECHI IS A ROLLERCOASTER.
Speaking of Akechi, analysis time. I love Persona 5 Royal so MUCH. It's actually wild. The song playing during the end has lyrics that pretty much seem to be Joker missing Akechi after he disappeared. Or thinking about how he'll disappear if they continue with the mission. Very sad. Especially due to their complicated relationship.
Anyway, there are a number of reasons why I think Maruki's claims about Akechi are unintentionally false and he's still alive. For starters, there's a cut scene in the game files that takes place with Akechi in rehab and he mentions having to go back to help someone he owes. Obviously, this isn't taking place in Royal time since he'd be with the group. The original vanilla timeline occurs. Which would suggest that he survived the vanilla game engine room soon as well but just escaped. I'm guessing this scene would've played with the other rank 10 confidants who tried to help Joker while he was in Juvie but was cut out so as to not spoil the surprise. The other confidants only get a scene where they help Joker when you get them to rank 10. And what's the only way to get the true ending where Akechi shows up? By getting him to rank 10. He ends up doing something to help Joker too and is presumably leaving. If you don't get him to rank 10, I think he flat out doesn't show up in the cutscene. So it's not like a hallucination.
As for Maruki's claims, his hold on the world has been stated to be unstable so he hasn't gotten to knowing what everyone is thinking just yet. In fact, he hasn't even met Akechi. He only knew what Joker knew and wanted. Joker assumed Akechi didn't survive the engine room because of Futaba's claims, but he wanted a second chance with him. So Maruki assumed Akechi was dead and acted accordingly by giving him different memories. But if Akechi is just here because Joker wished for it and Maruki actualized it, why didn't he disappear immediately like Wakaba or Okumura once the actualization was broken and Joker knew the truth?
Because the only thing Maruki did was pull Akechi away from wherever he was, he didn't bring him back to life to all. Joker's wish was for Akechi to have a second chance with him. For him to show up. And so by granting that wish, Akechi was yanked away and brought over to Joker. Once Maruki is taken down, Akechi goes back to where he was. Akechi and Joker live on. And whether soon or far away in the future, they'll have their rematch. But until then, Joker's holding on to his glove. Until they meet again.
I think the ending song is actually meant to be fitting for everyone in 3rd semester! It's Joker to Akechi, Sumire to Kasumi, and Maruki to Rumi.
I didn't expect Mishima collecting signatures all by himself so desperately to break me. Damn...
Man, I've played through this game many times, cried each and every single time. I've watched several playthroughs and managed to get emotional every time the credits rolled, but never have I cried along with a streamer this way.
I study psychology in both my free time as well as for my education. For my education we tend to look at the behavior of people of all age groups, and analyze their behavioral patterns to connect their actions and their personality traits to certain factors. (Basically, trying to determine what a person who acts a certain way would really think or feel about certain factors) Unironically, Maruki was a character that, 4 years ago, got me so heavily invested in wanting to become a psychologist/therapist. Not only do I like to psychoanalyse fictional characters (mainly those from the Persona franchise) but I also had my interest peaked in JC as a streamer, because of how entertaining he is and how entertaining his reactions to certain parts of the game are.
Though many times it is obvious that some reactions to scenes are exaggerated for content sake (nothing wrong with that, it makes perfect sense) a certain few weren't, and those were the most interesting parts of his Lets Play. Faking genuine sadness is one of the hardest thing to do, and JC's tears were more than genuine. Seeing such an energetic person almost break character by letting go of all that raw emotion was priceless to see. Him crying to small conversations with Confidants and even NPC's showed how much he actually cared about the game, whether it was just the game and its world paired with its characters, or if it was the memories he made while playing it (Or both.)
Seeing someone show this kind of genuine emotion really hit me in my feels because Persona simply means so much to me as a person. Seeing someone expirience EXACTLY what I felt the first time playing it and reacting accordingly was extremely heartwarming to me in a way. Seeing him cry near the end the way he did made it clear to me that everything he said about enjoying the game start to finish and becoming connected to the cast was genuine, and that is what made this playthrough of Persona 5 Royal the best playthrough I have ever watched.
Not many can juggle being energetic, entertaining, funny, and genuine all at the same time. It's either the first three, or only the last one. So JC, as someone who discovered you through your Persona 5 Royal playthrough, I want to tell you just how unique of a streamer I think you are, and how much I appreciate you and your love and care for the games you play, along with still managing to be entertaining, inclusive and engaging. I think it's genuinely a talent, and I believe it says alot about you as a person. So thank you.
My favorite part about the fight with Maruki is not just that you're fighting any version of God.
You've beaten the God of Control, but the step up from that isn't a greater God.
No, Azathoth and Adam Kadmon are both his power, not the being itself.
No, you are fighting _a messiah._
No, your fighting a good friend trying to do a good thing, it’s hard for different reasons, it’s somewhat more difficult than fighting a God, but also Maruki just thinks of himself as a messiah
@@todayisthedayofsalvation your fighting someone who believes he can create a flawless world
Though it is a spin-off, the Persona series tends to operate on a lot of the same rules as that of the Shin Megami Tensei series.
In that series, the "messiah" is typically the player character- in-game, a character chosen by a higher will to change history- and on a meta level, chosen by the game developer to be the player's window into the world.
Joker is "the" messiah in this sense- but Maruki is the one who literally takes the throne of the defeated demiurge. Were this a Megaten game, Maruki WOULD be a stand-in not for a messiah, but for YHVH.
My gf and I were watching this all day. She only knows P5R through what I've shared and talking about your weekly streams, and it was a real bonding experience watching the finale together and crying with you. You're one of her favorite people now too. We were passing out by the end so I didn't catch when you said you'd do the post-yap, so I unfortunately missed it! This has been such an amazing part of this last year, and I am so grateful to have had you (and the team, and your chat community) to hang out with on some of those hard nights. Love you all and looking forward to what comes next! - ❤ gnollip
I was watching this playthrough off and on over the year with my dog on both this channel and twitch and on fathers day weekend my dog passed.
I caught myself a few times making comments about the last vods i watched to no one but myself. The end of Maruki's arch felt like myself going through it the first time.
The whole scene with Maruki reaching to the sky before the ground shattering below him and the piano playing-- I felt that scene like I never had before this time.
It all happened so quickly and now he's gone. He did go peacefully though. I just wanted to share that, though.
If you happen to read this, I don't want you to feel bad for me or anything. Your p5r videos have actually brought me some joy in this hard time, so thank you. I just finished your last video. I really hope the best for your channel going forward. Thank you!
Thank you for the fun and amazing game. A while back, there was a councling student who did reviews of Maruki's councling sessions. That might be worth a watch on stream.
Ohhhh. I wanna see this 😄
I've played this game over three times but Maruki's screams of frustration at the end and trying to reason with Joker for turning his back to the original reality shatters my heart everytime...I GAVE UP EVERYTHING! EVERYTHING!!!! SO WHY?!!! WHY?! WHY RUMI?!!!
The voice work in this game is so impeccable, especially Maruki. Its prob the best out of the entire series if ima be honest and I felt every emotion these characters felt throughout the journey. R.I.P to Billy Kametz man, what a legend.
welcome to depression arc after this
PPD is the inevitable fate for every first timer
I like to think after the ending Joker jumps to Smash.
Or since the original ending is canon then Strikers is next.
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It was one of my favorites streams ever, and I'm so glad I could be there for it. Thank you for the amazing journey and I'm glad that he enjoyed it as much as we did
you’re one of the only persona play through you tubers that have throughly analyzed the game for what it is while completing it. thank you for appreciating the series and for the time spent on it!! hope u get to play the other games in the series, i particularly think p3r will get u in the feels and p4g will have you laughing ☺️ thank you!!
IT'S NOT THE END UNTIL THE LAST VIDEO ON JCBACKFIRE IS RELEASED 😭😭😭😭😭😭
reallll
The copium is real!!!
I'm denying
@@DLCHT I feel you
I'm truly sad. But it's for the best. Now I'm waiting for P3R
This might be my favorite playthrough of any game. Im so happy i discovered this channel😭♥️
6:23:14 this part man Billy killed this whole thing and I couldnt wait for your reaction. RIP the goat
6:24:44 I GAVE UP EVERYTHING! EVERYTHING!!! SO WHY? WHY? WHY RUMI?!!!
@@mrwrighA REALITY WHERE... NO ONE SURFERS... 😭
I remember finishing the game for the first time and crying as much as you. It was a crazy ride and it was so enjoyable to watch you experience it for the first time. Congrats on finishing P5R JC!
P5R is one of the greatest games ever made, and what really puts it over the top for me is the third semester, from the new Akechi content and Maruki's and Sumire's stories this game is absolutely amazing.
On my first playthrough, I was completely blindsided by the reveal with Maruki and just burst into tears. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. It makes me cry again.
How you know a characters development was amazing, when it’s so good it made a streamer publicly and truly apologize to the fans for saying he hated them so long ago. 😂
"Please Haru reach the cup" - so thankful that I found your channel while you were playing 2 of my favorite games in FF16 and P5. I look on youtube here to see if I can find reaction videos to some of my favorite games after I've played them and you have been a treat to watch JC. Hate that I have a hard time catching you live due to my work schedule but supporting you from the shadows my man
the ending is like no other
As someone who only found jc because I decided to finish persona 5 around the time he was streaming I became a huge fan of this dude entirely, he’s such an entertaining streamer and his chat is absolutely AMAZING glad to be apart of the subscribers
JC you said you wanted to give us the experience of playing for the first time again, and you did. I haven’t seen most of these scenes since 2020, and I bawled my eyes out with you by the end.
The part of Our Light in 8:54:39 is what made me really feel emotional. Especially looking up the English lyrics afterwards. 😭 P5R my all time favorite game.
This game me make change the way I see life. I play it in a really bad moment of my life and it make me feel happy again. I love it so much and now is a very important piece of who I am. Im glad you enjoyed so much, seeing people reacting to this game makes me feel like those days I was playing it
Crazy finally seeing you finish this. I remember being so hyped when you started this over a year ago, and its so satisfying to see you get it done. Lets go gamers.
I couldn't finish the stream but as he was saying his goodbyes I had to go. I was there, wonderful playthrough. THANK YOU JC FOR PLAYING PERSONA!!!!!! My friend bought me both p5 and p5r and it was my first ever persona game. It has changed my life and your playthrough made me fall in love with the game again, I'm a new viewer and I got into your streams when that first persona video came out, would love to see you play persona 3 reload and eventually persona 4 golden. I know you got other games first and all, but I'll be here for those other games and persona games I'm the future
It took only about 300 hours and 2 years, but you finally completed the best game ever
Congrats
Without a doubt one of the best Let’s Play series I’ve ever seen you’ve earned a sub and so much more! You are a great creator JC and I can’t wait to see what new adventures come your way! This is my first series with you and definitely won’t be the last. Such an emotional story and one of my all time favorite games. I’m on play through number 3 now and it never gets old. CaliDreamers Forever!
...But then again, Oracle never detected him. Not in the cruise ship, and more to the point, not in the spaceport. 🤔
I'm pretty sure he's able to mask his presence like [REDACTED] in Persona 3.
2:13:21 sumire showtime :D
Thanks dude
Thank you man
By far and away my favorite and I would say the best playthrough of Royal man... felt surreal when it started, was so fun and exciting to see you get through the beginning and meet the characters and realize how the game works and everything. Watching you grow to love everyone and dissect so much of the story, where most other people don't or not nearly as much or whatever, I looked forward to every stream, enjoyed the vods as something chill to help sleep a lotta nights, listened to ones I missed at work like a podcast, it was such an enjoyable experience beginning to end sharing it with you like we did, a crazy what, 18 months? Something we'll never forget for sure 💙
7:24:38- that picture from the shrine shouldn't even exist anymore, Joker turned himself in a week before then in the not maruki reality
I think the implication is that the Royal trio was in their right mind from the start, so they did not have to 'revert' in their cognition. Thus Sumi has that picture.
@@PaperReaper Sumi took it in January though, and he turned himself in during December. The picture couldn't have been taken.
FINALLY THE ACTUAL FINALS FINALES FINAL
everyone talks about p5 strikers but no one tells him to play p5 tactica. I think he should play tactica first. In the timeline, it takes place after the og ending and before the third semester. meanwhile Strikers takes place in summer time (after royal). tactica is also shorter and including akachi and sumire (with dlc story expention). The only problems with Tactica are that although the gameplay is very enjoyable, it is very easy once you set up the strategy well and it feels overpriced when compared to others.
Thanks for everything, JC. I won’t be sticking around for the next streams since I only watch content on games I’ve already played, but I’ll keep your channel in the back of my mind.
8:40:15 In my heart Makoto is canon. Love her!
I followed your playthrough in small intervals and came here to watch the end. It's okay, we all cried like babies when this ride was over. It was fun to see your sincere reactions to this masterpiece.
4:51:42 these sequence man RIP Billy man
Wait guys, did he max Maruki?
Na i don’t think so it’s joever
Yeah he did. If he hadn't he wouldn't have been able to get to Maruki's Palace.
@@oriongear2499It’s a joke
Guys did he unlock Maruki yet?
Nah hes cooked
It has been an amazing journey to see you find the magic that only a first time playthrough of Persona 5 Royal can bring. I am happy you loved the game and I hope you check out Persona 4 Golden or Persona 3 Reload when you have recovered from the post-P5 come down. You did it bud! ❤🎉
JC you are absolute legend of the community
i have finished persona5 royal yesterday and am not ashame to tell that during the credits i cried like a baby
favorite playthrough of all time its not even close!!!!!! it even made me finish the game so i could cry even more when you beat it😭😭
i am so gonna try and stick around for your future streams, your vibe and tangents are the best i love them so much THANK YOU JC🫶🫶
2:13:22 is the timestamp for sumi and joker’s showtime if anyone wants to see it
3:20:00 Sumire’s 3rd Awakening
4:10:00 Negotiations, Reveal.
8:46:45 SOJIRO MY GOAT MAN
8:53:01 top tier credit song for persona just imagine his reaction to 3s 😭
He won’t be ready for the P3 credits 😅
@@lisa_squared he will be a changed man
JC, I just wanted to thank you for the upload. I've been struggling with a lot of rejection in life and this honestly made my day. I'm gonna take an edible and enjoy this. Thank you so much!
It’s been a great ride y’all
This series was phenomenal to watch, Thanks for all the laughs and tears I’ve shared with you JC
I’ll never forget this journey, such an awesome play-through that brought me here ❤
Watching you play made me want to play too! I played the original P5 a few years ago, but never beat Royal. But I just beat it and MAN the Royal exclusive content is so good. Thanks for this awesome playthrough and for making me want to experience this amazing game again. It really felt like you made this playthrough your own. I'm so glad you got invested, weren't shy about taking the time to theory-craft and speculate, it made it so much more fun to watch and experience alongside you. I look forward to whatever you do next!
JC You say you dont think Akechi is alive. I think he is, and my reasoning is the timeline was changed.
Joker turns himself in on Cristmas Eve, the time you get the Kimono picture with Sumire/Kasumi is New Years.
If Joker was behind bars how did he get a picture with her?
You then see at the end where you thought it was Akechi.
I believe this was, perhaps a gift from Maruki you may have beaten him but he still cares. OR Maruki has just made you think you beat him and tweaked cognition enough that you dont realise it.
Bear in mind I havent played Strikers or Tactica which may have touched on this subject (Ive not looked into it because I dont wanna spoil them if I play in future)
Edit: I think this comparison video of whether you max out Akechi confidant or not is rather telling ua-cam.com/video/T4jJ926DixI/v-deo.html if you max it you see the guys walking past at the station, if you didnt max it you wouldnt see them.
I found this stream in my recs since I have a sick habit of watching people react to the true ending of this game because I love emotional pain (for both them and myself). After watching this first half now I’m tempted to go and watch the entirety of them all instead of the shortened ones because I imagine they lack the little rant and analysis moments like you had during the talk with Maruki. Glad you really enjoyed the game, and always remember:
Thank you Billy Kametz for the goft of your voice and talent. 😢
Just wait til he plays persona 3 they’ll be a whole river in his room
Persona 5 royal is the first game that made me cry when I finished it, really an amazing game
Dang…now I gotta see him play Persona 5 Strikers.
Yes, I wanna see strikers too. It's one of my favorite Persona games. I to this day hope for a Strikers Ultimax with Sumi and Akechi in it.
Jeez now that’s how you end on your final stream on Persona 5 Royal!
Bro we need you to go back to a previous save and accept Maruki’s deal just to see the other ending
He's doing a what he missed in persona stream soon™
I thought i had PPD after this ending... Then I played P3R. There was no joy in the world for a week lol
I still havent watched this, and i havent watched the other streams, i onlu watched the youtube videos, but have to say that i absolutely loved this playthrough, your crazy theories, your fun comments, your reactions, and like i said before your energy. I also love how at you always share your thoughts and opinions, even if sometimes i dont agree with them i like that you always share that, i will watch these "last arc" vods cause honestly i dont want to skip anything from this, after all, this arc is one of the best in the Persona series. I hope that if you play any other cool game you keep this attitude and i hope you play mire Persona games!
Now it's time for persona 3
time for Persona 3 Reload!!!
This VOD actually made me cry even more than I did on my first playthough, maybe it felt more emotional since this was a over 1 year ride
His rant about attachment to characters and loving them makes me think he would love One Piece.
He’d love basically any long running or multi part series tbh. One piece, xenoblade (all 3 games and their dlc is relatively chunky) and KH despite what he says *now* seem like his jam man
Well, one thing's for sure: this game is more emotional than Mother 3.
@@Loner098 I never played that but now that you say that, imma emulate it sometime. JC also has convinced me to try nEiR armata from this playthrough
@@pokefan2136 If you say that you plan to emulate it, then you already know the story of the game, yes? About how it takes place an unknown amount of years after EarthBound/Mother 2?
@@Loner098 nope, i know nothing about it. literally at all
Please tell me you're going to watch the bad endings and bad ending credits/maruki accepted ending to this game. I've been following you through this game midway through Kamoshidas palace. thank you for taking your time through this game.
Fun fact: even the devs don't call the maruki ending as a bad ending
He probably will, he has said that he wanted to do a stream watching the thing he missed in his playthrough
WE NEED THE “Take the offer” ENDING REACTION
I felt so empty playing these last few days and now watching JC plays it I still feels empty😭
What an amazing ride. Discovered your channel by accident and thankful for it - loved your exuberance and sense of wonder throughout. Then I got to watch your Maruki Palace run live while I was literally writing cognitive dissonance mechanics for a cosmic horror rpg. (And got a free sub to boot!). Can't get cooler than that XD You've got a forever fan.
(And still occasionally rewatch your _Journey_ playthru... that was magic)
Congrats on beating the game man 👍
Persona is the best video game series ever.
This franchise means everything to me
It has made me who I am.
And now you have finished my favorite game of all time
I hope we get to see a P3R playthrough, it would be another great game to watch
Lmao wonder what's on Makoto mind while watching her boyfriend and Violet showtime
I honestly believe that Maruki and Akechi in Royal are perfectly written characters. Marukis calling card scene being the best example.
what a great playthrough, thank you jc
Persona 5 Strikers MUST BE NEXT
but congrats on completing it! 🎉
4:31:10 keep in mind, this was deliberate choice for the game writers to expose our own hypocrisy.
"You already forced this decision on Futaba, Haru, and Makoto with their parents. See how it feels when you're the receiving end."
Is it F'd? Yeah, but you already made your teammates go through with it. Now it's your turn 😂
The credits... the lyrics...
Ahem... DON'T SLEEP THROUGH DREAMS THAT CAN COME TRUE NO MORE TEARS SHALL DROP FROM YOUR CHEEKS ANYMORE YOU WON'T NEED TO STRIVE FOR GREATNESS BELIEVE IN ME THAT YOU WON'T NEED TO SUFFER FROM ANYTHINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
And with that in my opinion you have experienced the Goat of all games. Marvelous. How does it feel?
You're a legend
260 hours of peak. Thank you for playing P5R, you are genuinely my inspiration. I came for P5R but ill stay for the yap
hope this guy plays persona 3 reload next
This was an amazing playthrough that sated my love for this game. However, persona 3 when?
(No joke though, loved watching through. I started watching vods for Maruki's arc just so I could get more.)
The thing with Maruki his way is pardoxical. Great intentions make everone happy, but thats impossible. One persons happiness could be another persons suffering, for example a Man could be abusive to his wife, she makes him happy, he loves her but he has a sadistic streak that means her abuse is his happiness. His happiness comes at the expense of hers, she cannot be happy unless his abuse stops. So they cannot both be happy in this scenario. 5:16:16 Unless of course that woman is Makoto apparently
Likewise 2 people are striving for the same job, only 1 can get it. Both cant be made happy. Or 1 persons happiness would be to win the gold, but only 1 person can. Or it could be Sumire and Makoto both would be happy to marry Joker. But he can only commit to one. So someone must remain sad.
So many ways his world cannot function without him imposing his will upon everyone, so that would make him a tyrant and go against everything he is trying to do.
Maruki is the equivelant of giving everyone a participation award and there being no winners or losers.
counterpoint: the man’s tendency for abuse probably stems from some sort of traumatic event or insecurity in his early life. in maruki’s world, the man would have had a better life so he would never become an abuser. people aren’t naturally evil or abusive, if they’re put on the right track they would be normal and happier, which is what marukis goal is
people wanting a good job or “winning gold” and feeling worthless if they don’t is just a symptom of our hyper materialist society that places the value of money over people. who knows, if maruki won society could have possibly been changed on a fundamental level
@@qwertyasdf6589 The two girls example does shoot Maruki's world in the head though. There's literally no rationalization for that
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Here’s the thing, humans are basically just animals and their behavior is predictable somewhat. They’re no different form any other physical entity in this world. If you have the right environmental and genetic factors you can basically decide exactly how they turn out.
For example, imagine if you had a computer capable of simulating and controlling the entire universe and accounting for every variable imaginable and you gave it some instructions like “make every human being happy”. I believe that this would be possible to accomplish. It’s basically just really complex math at that point.
Maruki basically has this ability, he can change the entirety of reality on a whim. If he was able to learn his power better he would most definitely be able to make a scenario where literally every human is happy, especially since he has basically infinite resources.
So let’s take your example of the two girls wanting to marry joker. He could easily fix this and structure their initial conditions in such a way that they grow to love someone else, or perhaps change human social dynamics on a fundamental level where things like marriage aren’t even considered the most important way to partake in romance anymore.
This was truly an experience
God this arc really makes me question if I like this game or p3r more. P3r is more consistently good but this arc is simply peak