If you're curious, this is the paper sample pack I mentioned: amzn.to/2NVK0BM Disclosure, that's an affiliate link. Curious to hear what your favourite paper is to print your photography on!
Great talk - knew what you were talking about. I came to the same conclusion myself and now just use the Matt for all printing. Looks the best and gives a fine art look to my photographs. Thanks again for your UA-cam😊
Brandon, great video. I’m glad you clarified that it was metallic paper, not metal-good comparison and contrast with the different papers. I’ve been doing fine art printing on canvas and aircraft-grade aluminum for years. They usually sell pretty well, but it is very dependent on what image gets printed on what medium. Thanks again for sharing. Stay safe.
Brendon that was brilliant, I have not had many photos printed because I don't feel I have been given any advise other than 'it all depends, etc' which I understand but is of no use to when you don't were to start. Excellent, thank you.
Brandon excellent video on papers personally I use Canon papers that's the primary paper I use and I use pro Lester when I'm doing high end prints I use the hahnemuehlel paper Matt fine art these are my favorite papers. Keep up the good work we expect to see many more videos now and I hope the gallery will open soon.
I made the same mistake, I had images printed to go in frames, I chose gloss! The reflections have totally ruined them, I'm now thinking I am going to have to get them printed again, but with a Matt finish. We learn by our mistakes. Thanks for the video Brendan, really helpful.
I usually just go matte for everything. Very rare to print on glossy paper just because sometimes if there is a lot of light around, people will have to keep twitching the photo to get rid of the reflection of the light..
Ah thanks you just saved me ! I was going to get my posters printed in glossy because the 100gsm ones looked like newspaper printed and i want to have them framed but now I understand that reflections will ruin so I should stick to matt or ivory or the back of glossy paper
I personally use Canon Pro Luster paper. Satin finish, 260 gsm. I get beautiful results on it with my Canon PIXMA iX6820 printer. That's a pretty inexpensive but very decent 5-cartridge inkjet photo printer for under $200. My camera club members ask where I get my prints done. When I tell them I printed those photos at home, their eyes bug out. I want to upgrade to a PIXMA Pro-200. That's all the printer I'll ever need. Maybe soon you can do a video about affordable home photo printers, since I'm pretty sure that large format printers are not in most of your viewers' wheelhouses. EDIT - I guess a lot of folks jumped on that sample pack! I just ordered the last one, if Amazon's supply status is accurate. Hopefully they'll restock soon!
Going through this very dilema at the moment and working through 4 test packs from Fotospeed. The results so far have been interesting. I do prefer the matte for my black and white images as the non reflective aspect of the paper is better but the details are slightly less pronounced in dark/shadow areas. The search for the right paper is becoming a holy grail quest
I love images of vehicles, machinery or even people with their car, motorcycle, airplane on metallic & semi metallic paper. The chrome, candy apple paint etc really pops on metallic paper. Certain Astrophotography looks great on metallic papers too, especially nebula or Milky Way with color in it. IMHO. Otherwise satin is my choice for portraits and matte for watercolor type images.
I have always had good results from Luster or Pearl finishes. I began experimenting with multiple papers from different manufacturers and found some interesting results. After printing like a madman this is what I selected. For Luster/Pearl my favorite is Cansen Baryta Photographique 2. For Lusters the Epson and Moab Lasal Exhibition Luster 300 are very nice. For Gloss the Red River UltraPro Gloss 2 68lb. Everyone's personal tastes will vary. I am a wildlife and nature photographer which heavily influences my paper choices. Printing has improved my photography. With things the way they are there's plenty of time to print like a crazy person! What a great time to have a great printer!!
It does help your eye to see better when you print your work. I tell people who want to learn photography is to learn the exposure triangle and to print your images the when viewing them turn your pictures upside down it helps you see negitive space subject to backround relationships.... the stuff you dont see otherwise
That was very helpful. I’ve been having my gallery show prints done on metal for some time. I think I’ll have the printer re-do them on satin and matte to see how they look.
Great material, thanks for such a detailed review. I know this is seriously wrong but I wanted to know your opinion - if you would have to print photos on a customer grade laser printer, which paper would you choose? This is not about art or good quality photos but more family pictures and some kid's projects. I will understand if you don't even bother to answer ;) but if you do many thanks in advance.
hi i wonder if you can help me. i've taken pictures from a book and glued them into a jotter with spaces for my own pictures to be glued in next to them, the thing is when i've done this in the past with photo's of a glossy texture they have stuck to the opposite page and when opened it's damaged the photo. do you know what type of print would be similar to the type you get from the pictures in books and wouldn't have that sticky texture to them?
@@BrendanvanSon For landscape photography, the Epson Premium Glossy. The colors are natural, yet very punchy and with a high dynamic range. The image impression comes closest to the display on the calibrated monitor. For some photos, I like the FineArt Baryta better, but that is very subjective. I haven't had much experience with black and white yet, but the Archival matte made a very high-quality impression.
Brendan, the one important thing you did not mention is the permanence/ archival properties of papers. Many papers out there contain optical brightners and things that actually cause the prints to yellow over time. They are not all equel and sometimes you have to do a little research to find permanance values because they tend to hide or stretch the truth about longevity. Many of the online print labs use cheaper quality papers. If you want to set yourself apart from the mass of other photographers use the more archival cotton rags and such because it is a built in selling point. PS. Your wearing cotton gloves but trashing and tearing those prints. At least they won’t have fingerprints when you throw them in the trash.
Quick question about the SIZE of the paper, for your print job. Small 8"x11" vs 30"x50" is your paper thickness (weight) going to matter along with the paper type? In my mind the larger the print, then perhaps the paper's weight should scale up as well? I have never printed anything. But I do have some images that I'd think would be great once printed and am sitting on the cusp of having them done at a shop. Mostly because I'm very aware owning a printer will mean having to use it on the regular or I'll otherwise be in a printing money hole.
i like to shoot in black and white. im kinda new to photography but have gotten a few good comments on my pictures. i have used glossy paper and matte paper to print. im just not happy with either of them. So would satin paper be a good choice for printing photos. i also have a cheap canon printer but will be getting a good epson printer soon, so idk if that would make a difference or not. i just want my photos to pop and look professional for my clients.
Photo Rag Baryta 315 gsm, this is a standard 'go to paper' followed by Fine Art Baryta 325 gsm. For design 'arty' prints with lots of color, Photo Rag Metallic
From time to time, for sure. I was really impressed how much more dynamic range the matte held. So maybe on high contrast images, I'll mention that - for example.
Hi, is there a benefit to using the ultra white matte paper instead of photo rag or baryta if you put the prints behind glass or plexiglas in a frame ? Won't there be a lot of reflections anyway ?
Are you sure you did not just do this video on printing so you could watch the print head go back and forth (I think that was mentioned on last video)? Informative and timely, thank you.
Coming from the library/archives world. What's the longevity of these paper types, and the inks? We have a big graveyard of documents/print photos/digital files etc. that take like, forever to restore or reformat. If there's even the money to do it.
Interesting, but I had to Google “GSM” as I had no idea. GSM (grams per square meter) is the measure of paper in the rest of the world, other than here in the US where we’ve resisted the metric system for years. Back in high school we were told we’d be changing to the metric system in a few years, glad I didn’t hold my breath as that was nearly 50 years ago.
No, only non reflective glass will do that completely. I print & sell my work & find that gloss, lustre &matt still suffer from reflection in the frames
I've been saying this for decades now. Glossy panels just sucks in general to look at. So hard to focus on any detail when there's strong white reflections no matter where you look.
Paper is number one issue. Too many make ink the issue. They buy expensive printers then realize they can't afford oem ink.They use after market ink and complain that the photo looks bad. They use aftetmarket ink in their cartridges and complain about bad prints, leaking carts, printer not recognizing ink cartridges.
@@williamstatt8651 Agree! Been using Precision Inks (PI) at a fraction of the cost of OEM inks. I find PI just as good as the OEM inks. So far no fading but I'll have to let time be the judge!
OK, this is what you need form Hahnemühle (Har ne moo la) For photography, Photo Rag Baryta 315 gsm, this is a standard 'go to paper' followed by Fine Art Baryta 325 gsm. For design 'arty' prints with lots of color, Photo Rag Metallic really pops especially considering that 'pigment' ink printers tend to print color in a duller way compared to 'dye' ink printers. Brendan, how has your Canon Pro 2100? experience been as you've had it a while now?
If you're curious, this is the paper sample pack I mentioned: amzn.to/2NVK0BM
Disclosure, that's an affiliate link.
Curious to hear what your favourite paper is to print your photography on!
Always matt
I use ilford papers.
Great talk - knew what you were talking about. I came to the same conclusion myself and now just use the Matt for all printing. Looks the best and gives a fine art look to my photographs. Thanks again for your UA-cam😊
Brandon, great video. I’m glad you clarified that it was metallic paper, not metal-good comparison and contrast with the different papers. I’ve been doing fine art printing on canvas and aircraft-grade aluminum for years. They usually sell pretty well, but it is very dependent on what image gets printed on what medium. Thanks again for sharing. Stay safe.
Thanks for the info! Will definitely buy ultra white matte paper !
Brendon that was brilliant, I have not had many photos printed because I don't feel I have been given any advise other than 'it all depends, etc' which I understand but is of no use to when you don't were to start. Excellent, thank you.
Great video man thank you so much! Exactly what I needed
Brandon excellent video on papers personally I use Canon papers that's the primary paper I use and I use pro Lester when I'm doing high end prints I use the hahnemuehlel paper Matt fine art these are my favorite papers. Keep up the good work we expect to see many more videos now and I hope the gallery will open soon.
Thanks! Stain gloss for the win!!! Wow, so much more richness.
Interesting stuff, thanks Brendan 👍👍🤗
I made the same mistake, I had images printed to go in frames, I chose gloss! The reflections have totally ruined them, I'm now thinking I am going to have to get them printed again, but with a Matt finish. We learn by our mistakes. Thanks for the video Brendan, really helpful.
just remove the acrylic panel on the front lol
I usually just go matte for everything. Very rare to print on glossy paper just because sometimes if there is a lot of light around, people will have to keep twitching the photo to get rid of the reflection of the light..
Ah thanks you just saved me ! I was going to get my posters printed in glossy because the 100gsm ones looked like newspaper printed and i want to have them framed but now I understand that reflections will ruin so I should stick to matt or ivory or the back of glossy paper
This video is so well made. Thank you now I finally understand the difference between matte and glossy
This was very helpful.... Matte, Satin and Glossy Paper..... Thats what i will use..... Thank you. From Kenya
Hey Brendan, as I third part to this series it would be great to see how you frame your prints. Are you buying frames with a matte?
Thanks man, this video finally showed me the differences. 👍
Haven’t watched the video yet but I was only searching for information like this just this morning. Great timing.
Hope it was helpful!
Great info, thanks for posting
Very helpful and informative sir 🧐.
This is so helpful!
I personally use Canon Pro Luster paper. Satin finish, 260 gsm. I get beautiful results on it with my Canon PIXMA iX6820 printer. That's a pretty inexpensive but very decent 5-cartridge inkjet photo printer for under $200. My camera club members ask where I get my prints done. When I tell them I printed those photos at home, their eyes bug out.
I want to upgrade to a PIXMA Pro-200. That's all the printer I'll ever need. Maybe soon you can do a video about affordable home photo printers, since I'm pretty sure that large format printers are not in most of your viewers' wheelhouses.
EDIT - I guess a lot of folks jumped on that sample pack! I just ordered the last one, if Amazon's supply status is accurate. Hopefully they'll restock soon!
Going through this very dilema at the moment and working through 4 test packs from Fotospeed. The results so far have been interesting. I do prefer the matte for my black and white images as the non reflective aspect of the paper is better but the details are slightly less pronounced in dark/shadow areas. The search for the right paper is becoming a holy grail quest
Try this Ultra-white from Hahnmuele if you can. It's superb.
@@BrendanvanSon Thanks BvS definitely will check it out
I love images of vehicles, machinery or even people with their car, motorcycle, airplane on metallic & semi metallic paper. The chrome, candy apple paint etc really pops on metallic paper. Certain Astrophotography looks great on metallic papers too, especially nebula or Milky Way with color in it. IMHO. Otherwise satin is my choice for portraits and matte for watercolor type images.
Which metalic paper do you use for astro?
I have always had good results from Luster or Pearl finishes. I began experimenting with multiple papers from different manufacturers and found some interesting results. After printing like a madman this is what I selected. For Luster/Pearl my favorite is Cansen Baryta Photographique 2. For Lusters the Epson and Moab Lasal Exhibition Luster 300 are very nice. For Gloss the Red River UltraPro Gloss 2 68lb. Everyone's personal tastes will vary. I am a wildlife and nature photographer which heavily influences my paper choices.
Printing has improved my photography. With things the way they are there's plenty of time to print like a crazy person!
What a great time to have a great printer!!
Yeah, I feel silly for saying it, but I'm shocked how much printing has improved my eye for photography.
It does help your eye to see better when you print your work. I tell people who want to learn photography is to learn the exposure triangle and to print your images the when viewing them turn your pictures upside down it helps you see negitive space subject to backround relationships.... the stuff you dont see otherwise
Omg I thought I was weird for looking this up lol THANK YOU very helpful
You're welcome!!
Thanks for video.
This was very helpful, thanks bro!
I bought a pack of Hahnemühle A3+ Matt Fine Art 308 gsm smooth paper as I think it will look better when mounted behind glass.
I agree, I think the matte is better.
Very helpful thank u
I have a print of the Coloseum in Rome I took at night. The material kinda suits the motiv exept it's to dark.
Hi can you please tell what paper should I use for illustrations?
I print on semi gloss usualy. Like that the most so far, but didn't put so much thought in it. Thank you for your help.
That was very helpful. I’ve been having my gallery show prints done on metal for some time. I think I’ll have the printer re-do them on satin and matte to see how they look.
Is it better using laser or inkjet printers?
Great material, thanks for such a detailed review. I know this is seriously wrong but I wanted to know your opinion - if you would have to print photos on a customer grade laser printer, which paper would you choose? This is not about art or good quality photos but more family pictures and some kid's projects. I will understand if you don't even bother to answer ;) but if you do many thanks in advance.
hi i wonder if you can help me. i've taken pictures from a book and glued them into a jotter with spaces for my own pictures to be glued in next to them, the thing is when i've done this in the past with photo's of a glossy texture they have stuck to the opposite page and when opened it's damaged the photo. do you know what type of print would be similar to the type you get from the pictures in books and wouldn't have that sticky texture to them?
Very informative 😊 thx
Glad it was helpful!
Hii which paper is good for photocards and Polaroid?
I use the Original Epson Archival matte or Epson Premium Glossy. For Fine Art Prints, Hahnnemühle FineArt Baryta. All of them in my Epson P600.
Do you have a favourite?
@@BrendanvanSon For landscape photography, the Epson Premium Glossy. The colors are natural, yet very punchy and with a high dynamic range. The image impression comes closest to the display on the calibrated monitor. For some photos, I like the FineArt Baryta better, but that is very subjective.
I haven't had much experience with black and white yet, but the Archival matte made a very high-quality impression.
Can all this paper be used on normal printers or do they need a special one?
en wat als je zit de foto in a houten frame met plexyglas? is dan je keuze voor satin?
intresting..
what printer did you use?
Brendan, the one important thing you did not mention is the permanence/ archival properties of papers. Many papers out there contain optical brightners and things that actually cause the prints to yellow over time. They are not all equel and sometimes you have to do a little research to find permanance values because they tend to hide or stretch the truth about longevity. Many of the online print labs use cheaper quality papers. If you want to set yourself apart from the mass of other photographers use the more archival cotton rags and such because it is a built in selling point. PS. Your wearing cotton gloves but trashing and tearing those prints. At least they won’t have fingerprints when you throw them in the trash.
Will the prints yellow overtime if I laminate them?
what printer is that ?
Quick question about the SIZE of the paper, for your print job. Small 8"x11" vs 30"x50" is your paper thickness (weight) going to matter along with the paper type? In my mind the larger the print, then perhaps the paper's weight should scale up as well? I have never printed anything. But I do have some images that I'd think would be great once printed and am sitting on the cusp of having them done at a shop. Mostly because I'm very aware owning a printer will mean having to use it on the regular or I'll otherwise be in a printing money hole.
I don't really know the answer. But i believe gsm is the weight per square meter.
Is satin same as semi-gloss?
Sample pack not available.
I've been trying for a week to figure out a come back to Branden>Brandon, but I got nothing.
I don't remember seeing a lot of B&W shots in your gallery, but would you go with the same paper you use for your prints ?
Photo Rag Baryta 315 gsm, this is a standard 'go to paper' especially for B&W followed by Fine Art Baryta 325 gsm.
i like to shoot in black and white. im kinda new to photography but have gotten a few good comments on my pictures. i have used glossy paper and matte paper to print. im just not happy with either of them. So would satin paper be a good choice for printing photos. i also have a cheap canon printer but will be getting a good epson printer soon, so idk if that would make a difference or not. i just want my photos to pop and look professional for my clients.
Photo Rag Baryta 315 gsm, this is a standard 'go to paper' followed by Fine Art Baryta 325 gsm. For design 'arty' prints with lots of color, Photo Rag Metallic
Matte sky looks the best to me.
Will you talk about what paper you are thinking about when taking the picture. (When you are able to go out and take pictures again?
From time to time, for sure. I was really impressed how much more dynamic range the matte held. So maybe on high contrast images, I'll mention that - for example.
Can you please mention the types of papers for beginners in the comment box
Satin! Is it correct as you said rich glossy look .?
Hi, is there a benefit to using the ultra white matte paper instead of photo rag or baryta if you put the prints behind glass or plexiglas in a frame ? Won't there be a lot of reflections anyway ?
I think don't really know until I try. But, I imagine having 1 reflective surface is better than 2.
@@BrendanvanSon You use museum glass and then there are no reflections.
I have tried glossy and satin paper for photography and satin look so much better not so shiny
Satin is the best. ❤️👌
Are you sure you did not just do this video on printing so you could watch the print head go back and forth (I think that was mentioned on last video)? Informative and timely, thank you.
Haha, you're on to me!
I've been in printing since 2011 only think i can say is matte paper is great for black n white pictures no doubt
Coming from the library/archives world. What's the longevity of these paper types, and the inks? We have a big graveyard of documents/print photos/digital files etc. that take like, forever to restore or reformat. If there's even the money to do it.
Honestly, not a clue in the world. I assume they're better than the papers of the past. But, I honestly don't have the foggiest clue.
9:40 I think the reason the colours look best is because they’re colours that would naturally anodise on metals like titanium or stainless steel.
A close-up of all of them together might of helped
Interesting, but I had to Google “GSM” as I had no idea. GSM (grams per square meter) is the measure of paper in the rest of the world, other than here in the US where we’ve resisted the metric system for years. Back in high school we were told we’d be changing to the metric system in a few years, glad I didn’t hold my breath as that was nearly 50 years ago.
What do you call it in the US? pt or something like that, right?
Isn't semi-gloss some sort of satin or at least similar?
Yeah, Satin is a semi-gloss.
Which one is better glossy or matte
Mmm I've got it! How long is a piec of string?
Brendon, Aren’t glossy prints ‘sharper’ than mat?
I don't know the actual answer to that. But, they definitely look sharper.
One question, if i redo my images in a Matt finish, will that definitely stop the glare when in a frame?
No, only non reflective glass will do that completely. I print & sell my work & find that gloss, lustre &matt still suffer from reflection in the frames
Yeah, as the other person said - it's not going to stop it without better glass. But, it might improve it a bit.
what for printer do you use
Looks like the Canon Pro 2100 to me?
@@Neil-Aspinall yes i see it
I always print on matt
I've been saying this for decades now. Glossy panels just sucks in general to look at. So hard to focus on any detail when there's strong white reflections no matter where you look.
Try to print on toilet paper. The most important paper of 2020. Doesn't get more precious than that.
HAHAHA
No shit!
@@Mrbluesplayer43 I see what you did there 😂
The underrated comment award goes to you.
@@bnnett thanks 😏
Paper is number one issue. Too many make ink the issue. They buy expensive printers then realize they can't afford oem ink.They use after market ink and complain that the photo looks bad. They use aftetmarket ink in their cartridges and complain about bad prints, leaking carts, printer not recognizing ink cartridges.
Ink is expensive. But, I've actually found it far less expensive than I expected.
I use refillable Precision Inks and they look as good and last as long as originals and cost about 1/3 the original price.
@@williamstatt8651 Agree! Been using Precision Inks (PI) at a fraction of the cost of OEM inks. I find PI just as good as the OEM inks. So far no fading but I'll have to let time be the judge!
I've always been kinda meh about metal prints.
Well I can't help you then Smithy because Photo Rag Metallic 340 gsm is the bomb.
✌
what would you recommend printing movie posters and decor poster on?
Depends on the style of poster really, but probably something glossy.
I would sell the photos you have in the shop and reprint the photos in matte.
Probably a good idea.
You mentioned Dunder Mifflin, Funny cause if you close your eyes I hear Steve Carell
gsm - grams per square meter
I’m a pretty good printer if you need any help get in touch
Which printer do you have?
OK, this is what you need form Hahnemühle (Har ne moo la) For photography, Photo Rag Baryta 315 gsm, this is a standard 'go to paper' followed by Fine Art Baryta 325 gsm. For design 'arty' prints with lots of color, Photo Rag Metallic really pops especially considering that 'pigment' ink printers tend to print color in a duller way compared to 'dye' ink printers. Brendan, how has your Canon Pro 2100? experience been as you've had it a while now?
Hello, can i please use 15 seconds of ur video from 11:34. To upload in etsy
PLEASE REPLY!
Ring light? You're no professional! LOL Kidding, thanks for the video.