I tried fitting in for forty years and I died or you could say I killed myself spiritually so fellow infjs do not go against your intuition and know your limits boundaries and peace of mind body and soul because until you love know yourself you won't be able to access your incredible abilities and gifts , which is your purpose bless all and everyone cherish your consciousness ❤️🙏😇
Brilliant!! As a 75 year old INFJ, I can comment on a few things that might add clarity: Paradigm Lock: It is true. I tend to go all out on what ever I am studying at the moment! And it is the absolute truth. However, except for a few areas, the burning truths tend to fade fairly rapidly and new studies emerge. These new studies then become the absolute truth, even when they contradict the old beliefs. I am amused at this. Interestingly, I tend to recycle back to the old beliefs from time to time, and each time it grows in depth. Of course, often I have totally discarded that old belief. This absolute focus on a paradigm helps to fully synthesize inner aspects of it. Growth always goes on. In terms of being connected to the energetic aspects of the people and the environments around me, my age has really helped me. It is like being in this world but not of it, at least to the degree that it becomes psychically draining. I may fully intuit the energies of those I am around, but the amount of that energy that I allow into my own aura is on a continuum. I do not abide fools, but I am available to help when needed. Still, vigilance is always necessary. For me, the door slam only occurs when I feel betrayed, especially when I realized that someone is trying to cause me harm. I agree about Jung. Also, Stoicism has been one of my burning truths recently, but most aspects of it no longer trigger that paradigm lock. I noticed, when I reviewed my whole life, that I have always tended to be a Stoic. I think you got the Justice system right, also.
Appreciate that! Yeah, I resonate with the sense of honing in on one body of work to integrate it. They all form a bigger tapestry, and that’s beautiful
FYI…the infamous door slam is involuntary. Yes, we can choose to shut a person out and close the door. We can make that choice and do it effectively. But the door slam is altogether different in my experience. It’s something that happens as an automatic defense mechanism. Like when someone trips an alarm and suddenly bars drop down out of the ceiling to block the danger. The door slam is similar in that it’s not there, something happens and then it just is. Whoever has triggered that defense mechanism suddenly no longer exists in our world. There are no feelings towards them good or bad. I know people live in France. But they are faceless, nameless people that I have no particular feelings for because they are not part of my world. Such is the fate of someone who triggered the defense mechanism of the door slam. They become another anonymous person “out there.”
I wanted to chime-in on keeping people at distance or appearing as very private. Personally I tried to be open, transparent, and fortcoming with people, basically like an open book, but I found that 99.999999% of people can't take in so much depth and either feel intimidated, scared, overwhelmed, jealous, puzzled, or envious. Even when I reveal my mind in tiny easy to swallow bits, people tend to run because they figure out that they only scratched the surface, which can appear as if I was hiding my real self, I am not, I only do so as to not overwhelm people. I can see through people's masks very well which subconsciously can feel predatory to others, but I seldom ever judge and I love silly humor, adventure, having fun and playing music, apart from spending most of my days contemplating deep existential topics. I think that brave souls who are not afraid to be really seen by an INFJ will be rewarded with a beautiful, kind, loyal friendship. Sadly I found this to be a very rare occurence. As for the dark side: yes, INFJs who don't learn how to balance the giving/receiving aspect can get into many toxic situations (I've been there too).
I pulled my car over in order to write this: This is the single most accurate description of me as an INFJ Ive ever come across. I couldn't stop laughing after you made your reading list. Thank you!!
Yes, a threat is a very serious thing to an INFJ. I cut off people who threaten me in any way. Since I am older and I am independent I don't have to tolerate bad behavior from anyone.
Yup-Yup = you make a ton of sense. Space Giver - Connector of Multiple Dots Experiencially and Intuitively - Walking Talking POETICS - - Empirically Lonely and Ultra Connected = DISTILLED Without COLDNESS. XOXOXOXO Thank you for this commentary / offering. All my therapists have told me I WOULD MAKE AN EXCELLENT THERAPIST ! ha ha ha accept that the level of emotional / spiritual effects on me by others is exhausting ( THERAPIST NOT A POSSIBLITIY - because I have survived a Bundle of Trauma from abusive / hungry - closed people in intimate relationships ) Just chirping here to join the other beautiful songbird INFJ's - - from my private meadow. Wishing you well.
By the power vested in me by the function of introverted intuition l officially bestow upon thee, the official title/monica of "MBTI Whisperer" 😂 Phenomenal breakdown, your mind works in such a beautiful way man. Bravo👏🏾 I believe the "magnetic pull" that you were describing from 16:58 to 17:42 is the INFJ #epiphany. We get it through the connection of dots(data points) and reaching into the "ether"(our subconscious) until, "Ah-ha!" a revelatory pattern emerges seemingly out of nowhere😄. I believe it works like so; our conscious mind through Ti & Fe sifts through data and creates seperate logical data points/clusters. All the while our subconscious mind (through Ni) simultaneously observes and draws lines linking everything going on in our conscious mind from a more removed & elevated vantage point; elevated enough to allow our subconscious to perceive patterns forming around/from the aforementioned data points/clusters. At some point in this process of rumination and observation a pattern becomes apparent to the subconscious mind and as the conscious mind reaches for a summary/unifying answer, the subconscious hands over its findings to the conscious mind in a flash of inspiration kind of way, et Viola🗯! An example of this is when one is fitting pieces to a puzzle whilst unaware of the bigger picture; they keep moving pieces around until something clicks. I have a feeling Mathematicians and physicists go through a similar pattern as well when solving for complex equations & trying to explain natural phenomena through theorems. At least, this is my limited understanding of it.🙏🏾✨️
It’s great how this comment is a perfect example of what we’re actually talking about haha! Appreciate you! And yes, the best scientists and philosophers are definitely of the intuitive persuasion!
I think I found the perfect metaphor. It's how it was explained to me, even though I'm not sure it's Scientifically valid, or even truly understood. It's when 2 clouds meet, and all their energy comes together, until it passes a certain threshold of enough Energy ― that a Lightening occurs. The Lightening is the Realization, the Clouds are the Patterns observed (through Experience). The Patterns are recorded physically in the Brain, so when the Pattern is strong enough - it comes to Consciousness. BTW - this is a known way the Brain works, in general ― competing patterns in Brain-Activity - that end in a winner.
An absolutely fantastic presentation. Having 57 years experience in this uncomfortable yet fantastic manifestation, I would say you nailed it, spot on. I would like to comment on the door slam though where I differ slightly. I see it as an essential strength, rather than a weakness. I am rather slow to apply it. Being an empath, obsessed with constantly collecting new information to analyze and further develop my model pertaining to human and societal existence, I don't look for contact with people I don't like to connect with, but incidentally connecting with these, I shall definitely use the interaction to learn. Being at a distance, if they have nothing or nothing further to contribute to my understanding I shall avoid them as far as possible. But door slam is different, closer, more intimate. Door slam is actually a defensive or preservative response. The more intimate nature of the relationship usually means I KNOW the person very well and they are NOT or no longer an "analytical project", but part of my functional environment. Now, if they are constantly and repetitively disrupting my environment, despite direct requests or subtle nudges and hints not to, my discontent seems to automatically rise inadvertently and sort of unconsciously. I am not keeping a little black book noting offenses and easily forgive, or think I do. Yet somewhere deeper, transgressions seem to be inconspicuously noted. Then one day, even something small like the straw breaking the camel's back, is added to that hidden "forgotten" file, subsequently leading to the person's deletion, door slam. It is not planned or intentional but a sort of automatic, 'okay, that's it we' re done! ' I was not intentionally or actively building a "case" against them or keeping score, but it seems that subconsciously I was. When this happens and I analyze why, that hidden file file is now opened and the reason(s) completely obvious. But the door slam is defensive and preserving for my functional environment. If someone is prejudicing that environment and they refuse or are unable to stop, they simply but absolutely have to go, in order for me to maintain my own sanity and happiness. Consequently the door slam does not influence my openness or availability to disparate personalities and apparitions at all, it just ensures neutralization of those void of any and especially positive contribution to my growth and environment. As an INFJ I love all people and would put my life on the line for them, even if I don't like them. Yet, despite loving all people there are very few of them that I actually do like. And this is not mere linguistic mumbo jumbo or conjecture. I was a policeman for nine and a half years and put my life on the line for many people I didn't even know. Love and like are two completely different concepts, with love being universal but liking relative, a personal choice based on constructive connection. God bless, I look forward to more!
Bingo! Put in very eloquently. Also it being applied is rarer than what ppl assume. We don't go door slamming ppl who have hurt or bothered us right left and centre. From what I have noticed, infjs only doorslam a handful of ppl throughout their lives.
I agree on the door slam, I have only done it when I am absolutely convinced, after many attempts at communication and more second chances than I can count, that there is no hope for cure. (and also many explorations of multiple ways to perceive and ways to interact. ) If they derive satisfaction from being harmful, and are not going to change, I am out. Safety reasons.
As an ever evolving INFJ I see myself currently and which is fast becoming a newly discovered core aspect is that of a mechanic. This mechanical mindset allows me to not just drive the car or walk through a forest but to understand where the nuts and bolts fit, where the materials come from and how they are processed. How the forces of the micro nit together to shape and construct the macro which underpins our material world that most only see and feel in motion at the surface level. There is a library in my mind and each book has a presence and belief, several books are open at any one time pages and volumes are added to or even burned away as new information comes about through my own journey of life, it feeds and fascinates me to no end.
Thanks very much. This is one of the best explanations of the inside of an INFJ I have watched so far and I can attune pretty much to it. A door slam usually only happens with 1 person or a little group as the last possibility to protect the integrity of an INFJ, it is a very strong boundary. The presentation is very accurate, yet doesn't show all facettes of the rich inner world the INFJ itself sometimes doesn't fully understand. And the path of experiencing oneself is very fascinating but often also painful depending on the intelligence level of the INFJ which is usually high.
Bang on around 11.30 with sense of a sometimes jarring between inner world of oneself and being in a social world space. I'm sure some will have the impression I'm quite extrovert because for short times I can use extroverted feeling and appear very sociable but I need a lot of time within myself and don't tend to share (except in personal writing/message communication with a few people) the real introverted side and endless internal reflection.
I have been researching my personality type (INFJ) for several years to better myself. Never until now have I heard such an accurate description of the INFJ from a non-INFJ then in this video. Thank you for making this video!
I find this video very helpful. You have accurately reflected back my experience. It is a challenge to express how we perceive ‘reality’. I also agree that the second half of our life is probably the best. I am 53 and just starting to work from my strengths instead of trying to squeeze myself into a box chosen by others. I appreciate you sharing this so much! Being understood feels so good to the heart!
Almost 57 myself and I feel the exact same way. The first half has been a rough go, but the second half is heading in a different direction having now become fully self aware and accepting. 🙏
Very accurate and much appreciated. 😊 People have mistaken me as an INTJ/INFP but never really fit 100%… when listening, it really seems to me like learning/hearing another language but I love when I come across material describing us INFJs from a unique perspective or interpretation. It’s refreshing and it’s TRUE which means I feel you are accurately representing us in the way I see myself… weaknesses and all. I’m a therapist and believe Jung to be an INFJ… his writings are so familiar and fitting. Also, I love that you mention him noticing and observing the distance between Adler and Freud (also favorites). Jung was willing to question and explore deeper… a true theorist at heart.
I'm INFJ - Lowrider; Your topics are very interesting, as an INFJ what interests me is Quantum mechanics, supercomputers like the D-Wave, and how there are many changes that are happening on a daily basis. what I mean by changes new things are arriving in our world from other parallel universes into our, entanglement. there is quite a bit of example like the Fruit of the Loom with a cornucopia, but many people have not heard of (The Great Wall of Pakistan, or The Great Wall of India, now most everyone has heard of The Great Wall of China) anyway, there are many portals being open and with that, there are many dimensional beings introduced into this world. And I think that many of the INFJs can pick up on what is taking place, anyway, like I said your program is very interesting. (The Quantum Lowrider).
It’s funny - as we grow and as does that need to make sense of self and reality, the understanding has to adopt more ‘accurate’ and fitting frameworks. And I think that it can be isolating because the best ones we find are often arcane and not in line with the common understanding
Doing the Right Thing and the Door Slam are both related to our (INFJ)'s need for inner harmony. I couldn't live with myself if I thought I had hurt someone inadvertently by my actions, but similarly some people are so toxic I feel like I cannot get to a place where we can co-exist without conflict.
I can't speak for other INFJs, but I know I tend to attend to other's emotions because I grew up in an environment where everyone had *ZERO* skill, energy or inclination to regulate their emotions. This was absolute *hell* for someone who absorbs the emotional energy of others whether they wanted to or not and is fundamentally unable to remove themselves from the situation. Putting other's emotional needs above my own was often a matter of psychic survival, as well as a roundabout attempt at moving towards my own need for calm and quiet. It rarely worked, of course, and unfortunately, though I am now in a somewhat better environment, the defense habits are still there and I don't know how to adjust them.
Hey feel the same I've become emotionally numb I've fell off but when I was working and getting out in the world using action I felt so much better and that was just for a bit. We must do what we desire not just procrastinate
I’m not sure if I’m an INFJ but that’s what the test results indicate. I’ve found with difficult people, compassion works well. I just think that person must have had a hard life to be so nasty, and I feel sorry for them. The surprising part is the relationship changes without my having to say anything. I remain somewhat distant but the nastiness has gone. I’ve done the door slam too but only to people who have betrayed my trust. I’ve also had prophetic dreams, fortunately not too often. I’m inclined to see the big picture but still hone into some of the details. Sometimes I don’t follow the rules, but rather think out of the box. I’m idealistic and want justice and equity for everyone. I know it’s unrealistic but yearn for it anyway. So I’m still not sure if I’m an INFJ or a different type.
Did not expect that you'll get everything so right. This is a rare good video. Also great point with the justice system, it's actually spot on Ni/Ti motivated by Fe. We could put religion and a lot of spiritual teachings in the same strand as well, as universalized ethics given a meaning and structure to uphold.
To me genuine intuition is knowing things you shouldn’t know. My judgements are made like he said from a LOT of information. Things that other people don’t track, I’m paying attention to. I’m hyper vigilant.
Copying @Mark723 - also liked this video and subscribed. I much prefer your thoughtful analysis to those computer-voice INFJ click-bait videos. I have recently come back to this topic and given it more thought. (The UA-cam algorithm has definitely taken notice.) I did the MBTI test back in the early 2000s but thought it was a bit of hocus pocus. But now I feel that a better understanding of the INFJ framework gives me a greater insight into re-visiting my past experiences and then assessing my subsequent reactions and decisions. It's funny to hear your observations of a "type" and then re-live my past experiences through this new lens! Your observation regarding the justice system is a good one. I think that all INFJs share the belief that there should be consequences for actions. We should all work towards an outcome which is fair to all. In theory, that is what the justice system is there for. You're adding good value to the conversation. Keep it up.
I am a 57 year old INFJ and I agree with what you said about the later half of my life. My intuition has developed to the point I can make decisions without even knowing why I am doing it. I just know it is right for me and my journey. It is an amazing gift to have! And this is one of the best descriptions I have heard of an INFJ. Well done!
To exemplify even further on top of your brilliant and eloquent presentation, I love both physics and metaphysics. But i want to combine them both and make something integrative and cohesive. Physics doesn’t sit well with my intuition based abstractions and metaphysics is not so very welcomed by my Ti, so you can imagine my struggles.
And here I was thinking I was just studying consciousness and all that entails ;) This is an incredible breakdown and every infj should have access to it from a young age. Thanks!!!
Very good description of me as an INFJ. With regards to slamming the door, we’re merely disconnecting temporarily so we can reconcile things before we reconnect. It’s a boundary that I’ve developed, and should not be taken as a rejection. And yes, as you grow older, you grow wiser. It’s the nature of the experiential learner that we are. Look into Human Design. It really dives deep into the individual on a level I haven’t experienced in any other personality modality.
Very well explained!! Some people told me they find me mysterious and I didn't really understand what makes them think so. But now this makes sense because they also ask anxiously "what are you thinking about?" or say "don't look at me" and I guess people feel uncomfortable when they see us observing them (processing their data). For many years I was absorbing other's feeling and I still sometimes get confused about it. I didn't know those feelings weren't mine and it was such a burden until I developed a sharp focus tracking-thoughts habit so that when I notice one thought that seem to come out of the blue, I know it's being picked from someone else, and have confirmed it countless time which leaves people creeped out because sometimes I could pick it accurately.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, may I share mine? I door slam because of waste not fear. I have limited resources and when they are wasted I feel less valuable so I remove wasteful experiences or relationships as you might call them. Just my opinion when I heard your explanation for why a “door slam” removed relationship might occur. This is my justice system and the door slam is literally locking out of the person causing waste
My daughter wanted me in the building I live in now. It’s really good subsidized housing for seniors. I was able to see two different apartments where people were e living in. I couldn’t for the life of me SEE the apartments as they were. I got so overwhelmed with the FEEL of them that I just wanted OUT. Then I saw my EMPTY apartment and was thrilled. My daughter didn’t feel the other apartments like I did, she saw them with her eyes.
Wow wow wow!! You sooooo cohesively put all that together and explained it in a way that just clicked and honestly made my heart really happy at feeling understood. Thank you!! ❤ Also, your voice is really soothing and I enjoyed just hearing you talk! 😊
I am so glad to find this channel! Being aware of all of these qualities as a INFJ since a small child, it's time to use and appreciate my 'outsider' feeling! Thank you for giving me an extra push😊
I don't think the "door slam" is necessarily a weakness, maybe a coping/protection mechanism. I give people lots of chances before the door slam actually happens.
Regarding the first strength you bring up, depth of understanding, I think it's largely about how we're so used to putting things into logical systems that we have a good sense of what's missing. As you've said, we are very focused on the cause of things, so we are better at figuring out when there's something more. In the same way we have a good sense of what's missing from the complete picture. When something is missing you described it as 'it just comes to us', but I think it might be more of a culmination of experience showing us the way forward. We do these kinds of mind-exercises so often that we can now better see what the missing thing might be. We have our own way of creating this deep understanding and the more we do it, the more familiar we get with the process and ultimately, I think we can get to the point where it seems like 'it just comes to us'. A qualified guess with a high likelihood of being right, I think. I'm an INFJ, btw.
I am blown away by how accurate your knowledge is of mbti! A very close friend described himself as an onion...peel back the layers, he typed as an ESTP but since I've known him I've believed he was INFJ, and I believe it's true that some say some people type upside down on mbti tests. The first test I took I typed as my superego, which I also believe is common, and I was totally immersed in my superego at the time when I took that test. Many of us who are toed to our ego personality instead of our spiritual personality can be in a constant battle with the ID and Superego.
It’s really interesting that isn’t it? I originally took a personality test years ago when I was in an almost suffocatingly logical period of study, and typed entirely different lol
This is really interesting. I did a personality test when I was 18 for a job application and typed as ESTP. I read somewhere ages ago that its fairly common for an INFJ to present as an ESTP in their youth. I re-took several tests after the age of 40 and every time I typed as INFJ. I've also described myself as an onion. lol. Have a glorious day.
How about the INFJ need for ME time. I’ve struggled with sleep for years. Not interrupted sleeping but falling asleep. At age 62 I am just finding that I can’t sleep unless I’ve had an hour or two of me time. I don’t do anything specific during that time but it doesn’t/can’t happen until everyone else in the house has gone to bed. I can get very restless if family members stay up exceptionally late.
NI-FE is empathy , If you read Carl Jung you would know empathy comes from intuition not just feeling functions, also try real Natalie Pillard on Carl Jung and intuition. Also ni is based archetypal information advanced pattern recognition it's a perception function(from the unconscious) not really about organizing which is more a judgement functions like ti but this was a good video thank you for taking the time. also we have demonstrative Fi(its our critical function called the witch/senex) its 4d just like our Ni is 4d , its just we don't value or fi but it plays a major role in our lives. well keep up the good work stay beautiful.
@@Nathanelder.expressthis thank you I appreciate the response, you also might like the book meeting the shadow, its very powerful if you are into self-transformation and healing. I hope you know as a INFP you have 4d ni too its just not valued. you also have role ti but again not valued. anyway, thank you for the response and the video .. stay beautiful and always remember to love yourself as much as you love others all the best
I’m curious to learn more about the developmental timeline for functions. You suggested that there is a different pattern - that the thinking function is actually leaned on prior to feeling for INFJ. I haven’t heard about this before but it seems very accurate for my own development, though I was raised by strong T types so that might play into it too.
Haha, I’d maybe do that sort of thing if it was relevant to my interests with this channel. I thought about doing a breakdown of the movie Stultz by Jonah hill once.
I tried fitting in for forty years and I died or you could say I killed myself spiritually so fellow infjs do not go against your intuition and know your limits boundaries and peace of mind body and soul because until you love know yourself you won't be able to access your incredible abilities and gifts , which is your purpose bless all and everyone cherish your consciousness ❤️🙏😇
Brilliant!! As a 75 year old INFJ, I can comment on a few things that might add clarity: Paradigm Lock: It is true. I tend to go all out on what ever I am studying at the moment! And it is the absolute truth. However, except for a few areas, the burning truths tend to fade fairly rapidly and new studies emerge. These new studies then become the absolute truth, even when they contradict the old beliefs. I am amused at this. Interestingly, I tend to recycle back to the old beliefs from time to time, and each time it grows in depth. Of course, often I have totally discarded that old belief. This absolute focus on a paradigm helps to fully synthesize inner aspects of it. Growth always goes on.
In terms of being connected to the energetic aspects of the people and the environments around me, my age has really helped me. It is like being in this world but not of it, at least to the degree that it becomes psychically draining. I may fully intuit the energies of those I am around, but the amount of that energy that I allow into my own aura is on a continuum. I do not abide fools, but I am available to help when needed. Still, vigilance is always necessary. For me, the door slam only occurs when I feel betrayed, especially when I realized that someone is trying to cause me harm.
I agree about Jung. Also, Stoicism has been one of my burning truths recently, but most aspects of it no longer trigger that paradigm lock. I noticed, when I reviewed my whole life, that I have always tended to be a Stoic.
I think you got the Justice system right, also.
Appreciate that!
Yeah, I resonate with the sense of honing in on one body of work to integrate it. They all form a bigger tapestry, and that’s beautiful
I loved reading this!
I want to know what a 75-year-old INFJ is like in person. I'm wondering if I could ever identify one
A scarily accurate depiction of how I feel as a male INFJ.
FYI…the infamous door slam is involuntary. Yes, we can choose to shut a person out and close the door. We can make that choice and do it effectively. But the door slam is altogether different in my experience. It’s something that happens as an automatic defense mechanism. Like when someone trips an alarm and suddenly bars drop down out of the ceiling to block the danger. The door slam is similar in that it’s not there, something happens and then it just is. Whoever has triggered that defense mechanism suddenly no longer exists in our world. There are no feelings towards them good or bad. I know people live in France. But they are faceless, nameless people that I have no particular feelings for because they are not part of my world. Such is the fate of someone who triggered the defense mechanism of the door slam. They become another anonymous person “out there.”
Thanks for sharing!
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Yup….
I wanted to chime-in on keeping people at distance or appearing as very private. Personally I tried to be open, transparent, and fortcoming with people, basically like an open book, but I found that 99.999999% of people can't take in so much depth and either feel intimidated, scared, overwhelmed, jealous, puzzled, or envious. Even when I reveal my mind in tiny easy to swallow bits, people tend to run because they figure out that they only scratched the surface, which can appear as if I was hiding my real self, I am not, I only do so as to not overwhelm people. I can see through people's masks very well which subconsciously can feel predatory to others, but I seldom ever judge and I love silly humor, adventure, having fun and playing music, apart from spending most of my days contemplating deep existential topics. I think that brave souls who are not afraid to be really seen by an INFJ will be rewarded with a beautiful, kind, loyal friendship. Sadly I found this to be a very rare occurence. As for the dark side: yes, INFJs who don't learn how to balance the giving/receiving aspect can get into many toxic situations (I've been there too).
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I pulled my car over in order to write this: This is the single most accurate description of me as an INFJ Ive ever come across. I couldn't stop laughing after you made your reading list. Thank you!!
Yes, a threat is a very serious thing to an INFJ. I cut off people who threaten me in any way. Since I am older and I am independent I don't have to tolerate bad behavior from anyone.
Well done! Thank you. Thot to ponder: The weaknesses you described... and an INFJ and C-PTSD.
Yup-Yup = you make a ton of sense. Space Giver - Connector of Multiple Dots Experiencially and Intuitively - Walking Talking POETICS - - Empirically Lonely and Ultra Connected = DISTILLED Without COLDNESS. XOXOXOXO Thank you for this commentary / offering. All my therapists have told me I WOULD MAKE AN EXCELLENT THERAPIST ! ha ha ha accept that the level of emotional / spiritual effects on me by others is exhausting ( THERAPIST NOT A POSSIBLITIY - because I have survived a Bundle of Trauma from abusive / hungry - closed people in intimate relationships ) Just chirping here to join the other beautiful songbird INFJ's - - from my private meadow. Wishing you well.
Appreciate that! Yes, the aspect of ‘absorbing’ other peoples stuff can be tough. Luckily there’s more acknowledgment of that for therapists now days
"The perfect (you) Man employs their mind as a mirror ; it grasps nothing, it refuses nothing, it receives, but does not keep."
~Chuang Tzu
"A Journey into the Mind of the Alchemist."
Love it!
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By the power vested in me by the function of introverted intuition l officially bestow upon thee, the official title/monica of "MBTI Whisperer" 😂 Phenomenal breakdown, your mind works in such a beautiful way man. Bravo👏🏾
I believe the "magnetic pull" that you were describing from 16:58 to 17:42 is the INFJ #epiphany. We get it through the connection of dots(data points) and reaching into the "ether"(our subconscious) until, "Ah-ha!" a revelatory pattern emerges seemingly out of nowhere😄. I believe it works like so; our conscious mind through Ti & Fe sifts through data and creates seperate logical data points/clusters. All the while our subconscious mind (through Ni) simultaneously observes and draws lines linking everything going on in our conscious mind from a more removed & elevated vantage point; elevated enough to allow our subconscious to perceive patterns forming around/from the aforementioned data points/clusters. At some point in this process of rumination and observation a pattern becomes apparent to the subconscious mind and as the conscious mind reaches for a summary/unifying answer, the subconscious hands over its findings to the conscious mind in a flash of inspiration kind of way, et Viola🗯!
An example of this is when one is fitting pieces to a puzzle whilst unaware of the bigger picture; they keep moving pieces around until something clicks. I have a feeling Mathematicians and physicists go through a similar pattern as well when solving for complex equations & trying to explain natural phenomena through theorems. At least, this is my limited understanding of it.🙏🏾✨️
It’s great how this comment is a perfect example of what we’re actually talking about haha!
Appreciate you! And yes, the best scientists and philosophers are definitely of the intuitive persuasion!
Absolutely, unequivocally THIS. Thank you for illuminating and articulating the process so well. 💖
I think I found the perfect metaphor. It's how it was explained to me, even though I'm not sure it's Scientifically valid, or even truly understood. It's when 2 clouds meet, and all their energy comes together, until it passes a certain threshold of enough Energy ― that a Lightening occurs.
The Lightening is the Realization, the Clouds are the Patterns observed (through Experience). The Patterns are recorded physically in the Brain, so when the Pattern is strong enough - it comes to Consciousness. BTW - this is a known way the Brain works, in general ― competing patterns in Brain-Activity - that end in a winner.
An absolutely fantastic presentation. Having 57 years experience in this uncomfortable yet fantastic manifestation, I would say you nailed it, spot on.
I would like to comment on the door slam though where I differ slightly. I see it as an essential strength, rather than a weakness.
I am rather slow to apply it. Being an empath, obsessed with constantly collecting new information to analyze and further develop my model pertaining to human and societal existence, I don't look for contact with people I don't like to connect with, but incidentally connecting with these, I shall definitely use the interaction to learn. Being at a distance, if they have nothing or nothing further to contribute to my understanding I shall avoid them as far as possible.
But door slam is different, closer, more intimate. Door slam is actually a defensive or preservative response. The more intimate nature of the relationship usually means I KNOW the person very well and they are NOT or no longer an "analytical project", but part of my functional environment.
Now, if they are constantly and repetitively disrupting my environment, despite direct requests or subtle nudges and hints not to, my discontent seems to automatically rise inadvertently and sort of unconsciously. I am not keeping a little black book noting offenses and easily forgive, or think I do. Yet somewhere deeper, transgressions seem to be inconspicuously noted. Then one day, even something small like the straw breaking the camel's back, is added to that hidden "forgotten" file, subsequently leading to the person's deletion, door slam. It is not planned or intentional but a sort of automatic, 'okay, that's it we' re done! '
I was not intentionally or actively building a "case" against them or keeping score, but it seems that subconsciously I was.
When this happens and I analyze why, that hidden file file is now opened and the reason(s) completely obvious.
But the door slam is defensive and preserving for my functional environment. If someone is prejudicing that environment and they refuse or are unable to stop, they simply but absolutely have to go, in order for me to maintain my own sanity and happiness.
Consequently the door slam does not influence my openness or availability to disparate personalities and apparitions at all, it just ensures neutralization of those void of any and especially positive contribution to my growth and environment.
As an INFJ I love all people and would put my life on the line for them, even if I don't like them. Yet, despite loving all people there are very few of them that I actually do like. And this is not mere linguistic mumbo jumbo or conjecture. I was a policeman for nine and a half years and put my life on the line for many people I didn't even know. Love and like are two completely different concepts, with love being universal but liking relative, a personal choice based on constructive connection.
God bless, I look forward to more!
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Bingo! Put in very eloquently. Also it being applied is rarer than what ppl assume. We don't go door slamming ppl who have hurt or bothered us right left and centre. From what I have noticed, infjs only doorslam a handful of ppl throughout their lives.
I agree on the door slam, I have only done it when I am absolutely convinced, after many attempts at communication and more second chances than I can count, that there is no hope for cure. (and also many explorations of multiple ways to perceive and ways to interact. ) If they derive satisfaction from being harmful, and are not going to change, I am out. Safety reasons.
Also a strength of an INFJ ... discovering a weakness and turning it into a future strength!
One of the best parts of watching infj videos is reading the awesome insightful comments from my fellow infjs❤
As an ever evolving INFJ I see myself currently and which is fast becoming a newly discovered core aspect is that of a mechanic.
This mechanical mindset allows me to not just drive the car or walk through a forest but to understand where the nuts and bolts fit, where the materials come from and how they are processed.
How the forces of the micro nit together to shape and construct the macro which underpins our material world that most only see and feel in motion at the surface level.
There is a library in my mind and each book has a presence and belief, several books are open at any one time pages and volumes are added to or even burned away as new information comes about through my own journey of life, it feeds and fascinates me to no end.
Thank you so much. There has never been a more accurate description of the inner workings of my mind than this. Female INFJ.
Appreciate you! Glad to have you along for the ride!
Right?! Incredible!
RIGHT!!!!!
Thanks very much. This is one of the best explanations of the inside of an INFJ I have watched so far and I can attune pretty much to it. A door slam usually only happens with 1 person or a little group as the last possibility to protect the integrity of an INFJ, it is a very strong boundary. The presentation is very accurate, yet doesn't show all facettes of the rich inner world the INFJ itself sometimes doesn't fully understand. And the path of experiencing oneself is very fascinating but often also painful depending on the intelligence level of the INFJ which is usually high.
Bang on around 11.30 with sense of a sometimes jarring between inner world of oneself and being in a social world space. I'm sure some will have the impression I'm quite extrovert because for short times I can use extroverted feeling and appear very sociable but I need a lot of time within myself and don't tend to share (except in personal writing/message communication with a few people) the real introverted side and endless internal reflection.
I have been researching my personality type (INFJ) for several years to better myself. Never until now have I heard such an accurate description of the INFJ from a non-INFJ then in this video. Thank you for making this video!
I agree. And this is high praise indeed!
I find this video very helpful. You have accurately reflected back my experience. It is a challenge to express how we perceive ‘reality’. I also agree that the second half of our life is probably the best. I am 53 and just starting to work from my strengths instead of trying to squeeze myself into a box chosen by others. I appreciate you sharing this so much! Being understood feels so good to the heart!
Almost 57 myself and I feel the exact same way. The first half has been a rough go, but the second half is heading in a different direction having now become fully self aware and accepting. 🙏
The Alchemist… willing to experiment… In search of the truth…
This video is the best deep-dive into my INFJ character that I have yet come across! Thank-you!
Appreciate that!
Very accurate and much appreciated. 😊 People have mistaken me as an INTJ/INFP but never really fit 100%… when listening, it really seems to me like learning/hearing another language but I love when I come across material describing us INFJs from a unique perspective or interpretation. It’s refreshing and it’s TRUE which means I feel you are accurately representing us in the way I see myself… weaknesses and all.
I’m a therapist and believe Jung to be an INFJ… his writings are so familiar and fitting. Also, I love that you mention him noticing and observing the distance between Adler and Freud (also favorites). Jung was willing to question and explore deeper… a true theorist at heart.
I'm INFJ - Lowrider; Your topics are very interesting, as an INFJ what interests me is Quantum mechanics, supercomputers like the D-Wave, and how there are many changes that are happening on a daily basis. what I mean by changes new things are arriving in our world from other parallel universes into our, entanglement. there is quite a bit of example like the Fruit of the Loom with a cornucopia, but many people have not heard of (The Great Wall of Pakistan, or The Great Wall of India, now most everyone has heard of The Great Wall of China) anyway, there are many portals being open and with that, there are many dimensional beings introduced into this world. And I think that many of the INFJs can pick up on what is taking place, anyway, like I said your program is very interesting. (The Quantum Lowrider).
It’s funny - as we grow and as does that need to make sense of self and reality, the understanding has to adopt more ‘accurate’ and fitting frameworks. And I think that it can be isolating because the best ones we find are often arcane and not in line with the common understanding
Doing the Right Thing and the Door Slam are both related to our (INFJ)'s need for inner harmony. I couldn't live with myself if I thought I had hurt someone inadvertently by my actions, but similarly some people are so toxic I feel like I cannot get to a place where we can co-exist without conflict.
I can't speak for other INFJs, but I know I tend to attend to other's emotions because I grew up in an environment where everyone had *ZERO* skill, energy or inclination to regulate their emotions. This was absolute *hell* for someone who absorbs the emotional energy of others whether they wanted to or not and is fundamentally unable to remove themselves from the situation.
Putting other's emotional needs above my own was often a matter of psychic survival, as well as a roundabout attempt at moving towards my own need for calm and quiet. It rarely worked, of course, and unfortunately, though I am now in a somewhat better environment, the defense habits are still there and I don't know how to adjust them.
Hey feel the same I've become emotionally numb I've fell off but when I was working and getting out in the world using action I felt so much better and that was just for a bit. We must do what we desire not just procrastinate
thia is a very intelligible, deep and sophisticated analyzation of INFJ-s. Thank you.
I’m not sure if I’m an INFJ but that’s what the test results indicate. I’ve found with difficult people, compassion works well. I just think that person must have had a hard life to be so nasty, and I feel sorry for them. The surprising part is the relationship changes without my having to say anything. I remain somewhat distant but the nastiness has gone. I’ve done the door slam too but only to people who have betrayed my trust. I’ve also had prophetic dreams, fortunately not too often. I’m inclined to see the big picture but still hone into some of the details. Sometimes I don’t follow the rules, but rather think out of the box. I’m idealistic and want justice and equity for everyone. I know it’s unrealistic but yearn for it anyway. So I’m still not sure if I’m an INFJ or a different type.
Did not expect that you'll get everything so right. This is a rare good video.
Also great point with the justice system, it's actually spot on Ni/Ti motivated by Fe. We could put religion and a lot of spiritual teachings in the same strand as well, as universalized ethics given a meaning and structure to uphold.
Appreciate that! And yeah, definitely, the justice system had to be in it
I actually work on the correct Human-System.
To me genuine intuition is knowing things you shouldn’t know. My judgements are made like he said from a LOT of information. Things that other people don’t track, I’m paying attention to. I’m hyper vigilant.
Copying @Mark723 - also liked this video and subscribed.
I much prefer your thoughtful analysis to those computer-voice INFJ click-bait videos. I have recently come back to this topic and given it more thought. (The UA-cam algorithm has definitely taken notice.) I did the MBTI test back in the early 2000s but thought it was a bit of hocus pocus. But now I feel that a better understanding of the INFJ framework gives me a greater insight into re-visiting my past experiences and then assessing my subsequent reactions and decisions.
It's funny to hear your observations of a "type" and then re-live my past experiences through this new lens!
Your observation regarding the justice system is a good one. I think that all INFJs share the belief that there should be consequences for actions. We should all work towards an outcome which is fair to all. In theory, that is what the justice system is there for.
You're adding good value to the conversation. Keep it up.
I really appreciate that!
Yes, the justice system in its pure senses strikes me as highly INFJ
I am a 57 year old INFJ and I agree with what you said about the later half of my life. My intuition has developed to the point I can make decisions without even knowing why I am doing it. I just know it is right for me and my journey. It is an amazing gift to have! And this is one of the best descriptions I have heard of an INFJ. Well done!
Liked and subscribed - thank you for this thought-provoking video, providing many valuable insights.
Thanks for that! Glad to have you on the journey with me!
To exemplify even further on top of your brilliant and eloquent presentation, I love both physics and metaphysics. But i want to combine them both and make something integrative and cohesive. Physics doesn’t sit well with my intuition based abstractions and metaphysics is not so very welcomed by my Ti, so you can imagine my struggles.
Haha, I feel that. I have a similar thing with traditional consciousness interest and psychology
Lol, the Truth is out there! And we know that it is in a combination of both and beyond them both. I can feel it. : )
Amazing explanation. -18 yr old Female INFJ
You did an excellent job on this presentation.
And here I was thinking I was just studying consciousness and all that entails ;)
This is an incredible breakdown and every infj should have access to it from a young age. Thanks!!!
Appreciate that!
Very good description of me as an INFJ. With regards to slamming the door, we’re merely disconnecting temporarily so we can reconcile things before we reconnect. It’s a boundary that I’ve developed, and should not be taken as a rejection. And yes, as you grow older, you grow wiser. It’s the nature of the experiential learner that we are. Look into Human Design. It really dives deep into the individual on a level I haven’t experienced in any other personality modality.
INFJ here!
I love the way you explained me 💯percent, and it makes me joyful.
I thank you so much and I bless you!
you find yourself to be an alchemist a seer with a comment like that ?
Appreciate you!
"Emotional X - Ray Vision" is a great way to describe it!!
Excellent analysis --thank you 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
one of the most useful and well communicated presentation on INFJ I've experienced. thank you
Very well explained!! Some people told me they find me mysterious and I didn't really understand what makes them think so. But now this makes sense because they also ask anxiously "what are you thinking about?" or say "don't look at me" and I guess people feel uncomfortable when they see us observing them (processing their data).
For many years I was absorbing other's feeling and I still sometimes get confused about it. I didn't know those feelings weren't mine and it was such a burden until I developed a sharp focus tracking-thoughts habit so that when I notice one thought that seem to come out of the blue, I know it's being picked from someone else, and have confirmed it countless time which leaves people creeped out because sometimes I could pick it accurately.
Top Notch Articulation 👍, I assume that you journal alot.
I sure wish this information was available when I was young. These videos have been comforting and validating.
It’s my pleasure to be a new subscriber… Thank you
Happy to have you on the ride :)
@@Nathanelder.expressthis thanks Bro
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Ken Wilbur!
His integral theory process pretty much explains the infj, as you said.
Excellent explanations and insights. ❤
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, may I share mine? I door slam because of waste not fear. I have limited resources and when they are wasted I feel less valuable so I remove wasteful experiences or relationships as you might call them. Just my opinion when I heard your explanation for why a “door slam” removed relationship might occur.
This is my justice system and the door slam is literally locking out of the person causing waste
AWESOME! GREAT INSIGH! NO PUN INTENDED.
Wow! Thanks! Subscribed❤
My daughter wanted me in the building I live in now. It’s really good subsidized housing for seniors. I was able to see two different apartments where people were e living in. I couldn’t for the life of me SEE the apartments as they were. I got so overwhelmed with the FEEL of them that I just wanted OUT. Then I saw my EMPTY apartment and was thrilled. My daughter didn’t feel the other apartments like I did, she saw them with her eyes.
As a 42 year old INFJ female, this assessment was very accurate. New subscriber here! Great work.
It’s my second video. My intuition tells me that I’m gonna binge watch your all relevant videos tonight.
As a INFJ this video will for sure help me in my personal development! Thank you so much
Wow wow wow!! You sooooo cohesively put all that together and explained it in a way that just clicked and honestly made my heart really happy at feeling understood. Thank you!! ❤ Also, your voice is really soothing and I enjoyed just hearing you talk! 😊
So accurate, it’s scary and also empowering. You’ve got serious depth. I’m super impressed. Like wow
I am so glad to find this channel! Being aware of all of these qualities as a INFJ since a small child, it's time to use and appreciate my 'outsider' feeling! Thank you for giving me an extra push😊
Happy to offer that! Thanks for tuning in
Great breakdown mate!
The best explanation I’ve ever heard. Very helpful, thank you.
I don't think the "door slam" is necessarily a weakness, maybe a coping/protection mechanism. I give people lots of chances before the door slam actually happens.
Regarding the first strength you bring up, depth of understanding, I think it's largely about how we're so used to putting things into logical systems that we have a good sense of what's missing. As you've said, we are very focused on the cause of things, so we are better at figuring out when there's something more. In the same way we have a good sense of what's missing from the complete picture. When something is missing you described it as 'it just comes to us', but I think it might be more of a culmination of experience showing us the way forward. We do these kinds of mind-exercises so often that we can now better see what the missing thing might be. We have our own way of creating this deep understanding and the more we do it, the more familiar we get with the process and ultimately, I think we can get to the point where it seems like 'it just comes to us'. A qualified guess with a high likelihood of being right, I think. I'm an INFJ, btw.
I am blown away by how accurate your knowledge is of mbti! A very close friend described himself as an onion...peel back the layers, he typed as an ESTP but since I've known him I've believed he was INFJ, and I believe it's true that some say some people type upside down on mbti tests. The first test I took I typed as my superego, which I also believe is common, and I was totally immersed in my superego at the time when I took that test. Many of us who are toed to our ego personality instead of our spiritual personality can be in a constant battle with the ID and Superego.
It’s really interesting that isn’t it?
I originally took a personality test years ago when I was in an almost suffocatingly logical period of study, and typed entirely different lol
This is really interesting. I did a personality test when I was 18 for a job application and typed as ESTP. I read somewhere ages ago that its fairly common for an INFJ to present as an ESTP in their youth. I re-took several tests after the age of 40 and every time I typed as INFJ. I've also described myself as an onion. lol. Have a glorious day.
Very well said. Thanks for the content!
I just learned that I am an INFJ-T, it has explained a lot! (haha)
INFJ here. So true.
👏 Bravo. Wonderful accurate analysis 😊
How about the INFJ need for ME time. I’ve struggled with sleep for years. Not interrupted sleeping but falling asleep. At age 62 I am just finding that I can’t sleep unless I’ve had an hour or two of me time. I don’t do anything specific during that time but it doesn’t/can’t happen until everyone else in the house has gone to bed. I can get very restless if family members stay up exceptionally late.
Yeah, I actually don’t function well at all, unless I get that time to really connect to myself, so I totally relate!
I know I am having a fundamentally different experience than other people. Being older is great.
So so accurate!! Thanks!
this was so interesting!! would love to hear about enfjs, too:))
My first time connecting to your channel...wow! Very well spoken in delivering your knowledge! You are spot on! Ty!!
Dare to go underneath folks, we’re pretty funny in there 😂
It is so funny how I feel called out during the introverted intuition already🤣
NI-FE is empathy , If you read Carl Jung you would know empathy comes from intuition not just feeling functions, also try real Natalie Pillard on Carl Jung and intuition.
Also ni is based archetypal information advanced pattern recognition it's a perception function(from the unconscious) not really about organizing which is more a judgement functions like ti
but this was a good video thank you for taking the time.
also we have demonstrative Fi(its our critical function called the witch/senex) its 4d just like our Ni is 4d , its just we don't value or fi but it plays a major role in our lives.
well keep up the good work stay beautiful.
Appreciate the feedback! I’ll have to check out Natalie pillard, I know you’d mentioned her on my other video
@@Nathanelder.expressthis thank you I appreciate the response, you also might like the book meeting the shadow, its very powerful if you are into self-transformation and healing. I hope you know as a INFP you have 4d ni too its just not valued. you also have role ti but again not valued. anyway, thank you for the response and the video .. stay beautiful and always remember to love yourself as much as you love others all the best
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"Empathy comes from intuition not just feeling functions...."
TRUE!
I’ve never felt more understood by someone other than myself. Lol😂 well done!
Amazing video, so accurate! Thank you
You’re very welcome! Glad to have you
P.s. New subscriber--thank you for your impressive work!
You took a sip or your coffee hehee
What a lesson-I am learning!
Also interested in hearing your analysis on ISFJs and INTJs
Soon as I’m back from Japan, these are on my list :)
Nailed it! Great video.
Spot on! Thank you soooo much!
Well done, spot on.
This was so good! Thank you 😊
Spot on 👏
Very helpful, thank you so much !
Very welcome!
To see where somebody is, understand how they got there, and see where they're going: how is that not normal?
Very well done video! Thank you for the analysis
Appreciate that! You’re very welcome
Great video
Absolutely beautifully articulated and described in great detail. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
Oh my god thank you
I’m curious to learn more about the developmental timeline for functions. You suggested that there is a different pattern - that the thinking function is actually leaned on prior to feeling for INFJ. I haven’t heard about this before but it seems very accurate for my own development, though I was raised by strong T types so that might play into it too.
Well done!
Thank u so much 🖤
Lovely! Brilliant. God bless!
nice!!
Really good content.
Truest
Could you do book and film reviews too?
What about knives, watches, pens, and fragrances?
Haha, I’d maybe do that sort of thing if it was relevant to my interests with this channel. I thought about doing a breakdown of the movie Stultz by Jonah hill once.
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