F-14 TOMCAT AIR COMBAT TOP GUN MIRAMAR NAVAL AIR STATION 22334

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    Made by Grumman to promote the new F-14 Tomcat, this film takes place at Miramar, California and Fighter Town USA.
    At mark 0:33, Fighter Town USA is seen with various front line Naval aircraft including F-4 Phantoms. Here, pilots are now using lessons from the war in S.E. Asia in developing F-14 combat maneuvering syllabus, using the variable wing at different speed ranges, and getting use to the plane's sophisticated electronic packages. The multiple weapon systems include Phoenix missiles which can be launched simultaneously at targets more than 15 miles away. A two man crew divides responsibilities that range from visual tracking and navigation to kill assessment in a tough ECM environment.
    At mark 3:57, we have all the crews learning about the F-14 and how to use it to their advantage. This is a full time job for them. Every working day a routine of debriefings and flying, flying and debriefings. Beginnings before dawn and also at nights. Soon enough its time to fight, at mark 4:18, we see pilots preparing for fight against Top Gun fighters. Each plane has its special abilities. At mark 5:08, F-15 versus T-38 Talon, a lesson in defensive maneuvering. The T-38 Is one of the tightest turning aircraft in the inventory. We have the instructor teaching the pilots on how to defend and maneuver. He sets up the rule of engagement and recognize when they should make their move and engage. He teaches them how to counter when locked on the weapon system. From the class room to the real world and back to the classroom. Here at mark 7:57, we have the instructor who flew the T-38 conducting the debriefing. Briefing them on his turnings and maneuverings on the air.
    At mark 9:10, we also have the F-14 flying crew preparing against the A-4 Skyhawk, another good turning low wing craft. The tag team instructor also instruct on the defense. Again the F-14 is on the defensive, the A-4 rolling into a good gun position. The instructor at mark 9:40 instructs on maneuvering and how he will counter attacks on the engagement to make the kill. At mark 10:35, both crews return to the class for debriefing. This is to remind the F-14 pilots of the capabilities of their aircraft and that it will respond after been pushed beyond the limits of other aircrafts and to instill confidence in them. The instructor gave them instructions on their aircraft and its maneuvering capabilities.
    At mark 12:40, we have the F-4 Phantom opposing the F-14. Both are high thrust away fighters. Unlike the F-14 however, the Phantom has divided high speed to be effective and thus is vulnerable to the tight turning Tomcat. Both will use radar to find one another then engage. The F-14 is the aggressive. At mark 13:22, the instructor gives the crew some ideas. Having heard it from the class room of course is a lot easier from been there. We have both aircrafts on the air maneuvering and trying to engage attacks. At mark 14:20, we see them briefing each other in the class about their engagement and maneuvering after the air flight. At mark 15:17, pilots have been impressed about the F-14 after putting its capabilities to test and using it to their advantage. The different pilots tried the F-14 to check its amazing capabilities. With the confidence the pilots have, they can now translate F-14 real capabilities into real performance. The F-14 can also stand on its tail. The aircraft performance, flexibility and wide varieties of weapons can be adapted to any foreseeable threat and take the fight to the enemy and to win.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 934

  • @arbimoradian
    @arbimoradian 2 роки тому +147

    Thanks!

    • @PeriscopeFilm
      @PeriscopeFilm  2 роки тому +18

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    • @alexm566
      @alexm566 2 роки тому +3

      Parev there!

    • @MausOfTheHouse
      @MausOfTheHouse 2 роки тому +3

      That's new

    • @bryanedwards953
      @bryanedwards953 Рік тому +1

      @@PeriscopeFilm fro 1
      1.

    • @dvog
      @dvog Рік тому +3

      Wow! What year was this? This production brought back a lot of memories, sorta like pulling out my CV-61 USS Ranger 1979 cruise book. I saw that same runway and tarmac view almost every day from 1977-1981 in VF-21, hanger 1. I caught glimpses of some f-4's with a yellow tail (my squadron). VF-154 bird (Our sister squadron) gave a full frontal view at the start. I have watched hundreds of documentaries, but this one really struck home. They even showed the Aircraft Intermediate Maintenance Depot AIMD. Spent some time there as well. AQ2
      Thanks for the memories.
      Oh and Topgun before Tom Cruise made it really Cool!

  • @majortom6351
    @majortom6351 5 років тому +1028

    As a retired german F-4 Pilot my eyes filled with tears by watching this doku... just the sound of the phantom jets brings all the great memories of 21 years of active service. R. I. P brave old lady!

    • @hoilst
      @hoilst 4 роки тому +23

      The Brick with Wings!

    • @majortom6351
      @majortom6351 4 роки тому +57

      @@hoilst a reliable, fast and dangerous brick... no plane ever brought their crews safely back home while the plane was massive damaged... a real live safer! I loved it to fly, no compare to the modern fighter with tbeir computet controlled systems. The F-4 was really old school to fly and operate, once a pilot understood this, nothing could stop him with this plane!

    • @hoilst
      @hoilst 4 роки тому +10

      @@majortom6351 Aye. We leased them for a while, since General Dynamics was screwing everyone around with their F-111 development - an aircraft that we got solely to piss off the Indonesians and was more trouble than it was worth.

    • @viruspter1dactl
      @viruspter1dactl 3 роки тому +1

      @The Reaper blahe

    • @hiersdable
      @hiersdable 2 роки тому

      4:41 Is that an RBF banner flapping by the nose gear?

  • @davidgladman2089
    @davidgladman2089 4 роки тому +553

    The instructor at 6:12 is actually my father CAPT Dennis S. Gladman.

    • @DavidCooper-dm9cz
      @DavidCooper-dm9cz 4 роки тому +22

      You must be proud to be his son...did you become a pilot too?

    • @briang1561
      @briang1561 4 роки тому +10

      Can your dad give me lessons?

    • @steveowens913
      @steveowens913 4 роки тому +12

      Nice. Sounds like actually a proud son!

    • @davidgladman2089
      @davidgladman2089 4 роки тому +11

      @@steveowens913 very much so!

    • @crackalacs74
      @crackalacs74 4 роки тому +6

      What was his call sign?

  • @Slonge92
    @Slonge92 9 місяців тому +12

    I worked directly with three of the guys in this film, at Cubic Corp in San Diego in the 1990s and early 2000s. We lost Mike Guenther to cancer in the 1990s.
    All were and are great guys.

    • @Celeste-cc3hu
      @Celeste-cc3hu 2 місяці тому

      Really?? That sounds like such amazing memories

  • @Peter_Morris
    @Peter_Morris 2 роки тому +261

    Such a beautiful bird. I think every kid in the 80s fell in love with the F-14 at first sight!

  • @Josh-hr5mc
    @Josh-hr5mc 5 років тому +413

    This stuff is better than modern day documentaries.

    • @yurieu5872
      @yurieu5872 2 роки тому +12

      The only document food and women right now.

    • @Jetwaterrunnerfeller
      @Jetwaterrunnerfeller 2 роки тому +15

      The country was far better too.

    • @stablegenius4059
      @stablegenius4059 2 роки тому +15

      @@Jetwaterrunnerfeller life was better, happiness, everything felt better. Nowadays people got everything but they're not happy !

    • @RavishingSailor
      @RavishingSailor 2 роки тому +6

      @@stablegenius4059 exactly. Like the old saying goes: “easy times make soft men, soft men make hard times, hard times make hard men” rinse and repeat generation after generation. My uncle is a retired air force major general fighter pilot who echos this last statement. We have been in easy times.

    • @stablegenius4059
      @stablegenius4059 2 роки тому

      @@RavishingSailor TRUE!

  • @jamesprice6381
    @jamesprice6381 5 років тому +191

    The pilot at 3:32 is Cmdr Sam Leeds. who would end up being my Capt aboard USS America CV-66 on 1979 Med cruise!!!!!! He was the F-14 fleet introductory officer in 1971! AMAZING!

    • @PeriscopeFilm
      @PeriscopeFilm  5 років тому +28

      Thanks for your comments and your service to our great nation.

    • @bonitawilcox2909
      @bonitawilcox2909 2 роки тому +11

      Thank you for sharing...just awesome, and Thank you for your service ✈

  • @hefeibao
    @hefeibao 4 роки тому +248

    I miss factual documentaries like this with lots of objective, technical information vs. "drama" and "fluff" that we get today. Seems I'm not the only one with this type of comment.

    • @sharartimunda
      @sharartimunda Рік тому +8

      Average IQ of society was higher back then

    • @ilijajovcevski4419
      @ilijajovcevski4419 Рік тому +1

      And it's not just about aviation, the docs on all topic seem to be more about plot, story and emotion, and less on actual factual presentation that will help you learn something you didn't know before.

  • @michaeld1170
    @michaeld1170 5 років тому +625

    I miss documentaries like this where the level of technical information is really great. Today's aircraft documentaries are made for 8 year olds,
    "the F-35's engine produces 43,000 lbs of thrust, thats like 8 Ferarris,"
    its dumbed down for people who don't even like this topic all that much.

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite 5 років тому +30

      Yeah, but maybe they don't want to give away tactics and capabilities.
      That's assuming that much thought goes into it.
      This was a sales-pitch video, probably shown to higher Navy officials and some key congress people. At least a 10-year-old 'scognitive level!

    • @fernandes5986
      @fernandes5986 4 роки тому +2

      @@KutWrite Yeah you maybe right but I miss these old style docs also.

    • @yourmomma8065
      @yourmomma8065 4 роки тому +30

      For real. Here in Germany too. "The USS Enterprise is long as 17 Football fields" "How much Meters is that?" "We don't know."

    • @PassportBrosBusinessClass
      @PassportBrosBusinessClass 4 роки тому +9

      If you can’t explain something in simple terms, THEN YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND IT WELL ENOUGH.
      -Einstein

    • @michaeld1170
      @michaeld1170 4 роки тому +20

      @@PassportBrosBusinessClass
      Explaining in simple terms and explaining in detail are 2 very different things.
      For people who already know the explanation in its simplest form, a more complex explanation is more appreciated

  • @paulpak1
    @paulpak1 2 роки тому +38

    If I had my life to live over again, I would be a Navy Tomcat pilot. What an awe-inspiring piece of machinery. My hats off to the engineers at Grumman who worked on this.

  • @brandonbryant8027
    @brandonbryant8027 6 років тому +106

    I wish I was born in the 60's so I would've be a Naval Aviator and fly a F-14 Tomcat in the 80's while Top Gun was still in Miramar!

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite 5 років тому +12

      TOPGUN* got a lot more interesting and well funded before it got absorbed into Strike-U at Fallon.
      I did their training videos and oversaw a support contractor there from 1987 - 1991. It was a memorable experience.
      (* "TOPGUN" - all caps, was the squadron - the movie was "Top Gun" )

  • @markrobertson6664
    @markrobertson6664 4 роки тому +261

    On March 3, 1969 the United States Navy established
    an elite school for the top one percent of its pilots.
    Its purpose was to teach the lost art or aerial combat
    and to insure that the handful of men who graduated
    were the best fighter pilots in the world.
    They succeeded.
    Today, the Navy calls it Fighter Weapons School.
    The flyers call it:
    TOP GUN

    • @gilbertozuniga8063
      @gilbertozuniga8063 2 роки тому +12

      @Mark Robertson
      You must have watched Tom Cruise’s latest TOPGUN movie.

    • @markrobertson6664
      @markrobertson6664 2 роки тому +17

      @@gilbertozuniga8063 no not yet. That’s just the opening title to the first movie

    • @badmoose01
      @badmoose01 2 роки тому +19

      @@markrobertson6664 light spoiler: it’s also the opening title for the new movie

    • @markrobertson6664
      @markrobertson6664 2 роки тому +2

      @@badmoose01 is the sequel good or did Hollywood ruin another great franchise?

    • @badmoose01
      @badmoose01 2 роки тому +25

      @@markrobertson6664 the sequel is actually way better than it deserves to be. Zero green screen real aircraft. Tom Cruise did a great job.

  • @densealloy
    @densealloy 4 роки тому +27

    Grumman Iron Works! F-14 was thier masterpiece.

    • @luciusvorenus9445
      @luciusvorenus9445 4 роки тому +2

      It was being built at same facility as the Lunar Module!

  • @Rob-hv5zq
    @Rob-hv5zq 2 роки тому +58

    This is how you do a documentary! Don't just spew a bunch of facts, show us behind the scenes, explain the how it works, and make the viewer actually feel like they're a part of what's going on.

    • @Kevin-fj5oe
      @Kevin-fj5oe Рік тому

      this is promotional for F-14, probably aren't accessible to public at that time.

  • @Phillyguy316
    @Phillyguy316 Рік тому +17

    These pilots are the real deal. this is way better than a lot of the newer documentaries on the F-14, and just hearing the word "Fightertown" brings back a lot of memories of growing up in San Diego and driving past Miramar NAS on I-15 every day.

  • @greggaynor5100
    @greggaynor5100 Рік тому +6

    I was there in '83. Towing birds and starting them up. F-4's F-14's and quite a few others. Take offs and landings all day long. Every few seconds you would see a bird taking off. Some of the most fun I ever had in the Marine Corps.

  • @pushing2throttles
    @pushing2throttles 2 роки тому +98

    I gotta say, as a pilot... as a civilian flight instructor I learn a LOT just from the debriefs in this documentary. I mean damn, these guys are the most professional pilots ever. It's so eye opening having access to these conversations.

    • @cantrell0817
      @cantrell0817 2 роки тому +8

      Those guys learned their craft from the WW2, Korea and Vietnam guys. Not hard to understand why the Navy was so effective, huh?

    • @geemanbmw
      @geemanbmw 10 місяців тому +1

      I was saying the same thing to myself..

  • @jamesprice6381
    @jamesprice6381 5 років тому +61

    Was at Fighter Town 1979-1982....VF-114 Aardvarks F-14..BEST TIME OF MY LIFE, MY GOD U JUST CANT IMAGINE!

  • @applejacks971
    @applejacks971 2 роки тому +96

    Interesting! This explains all the scenes in Top Gun when the F-14 always goes vertical when the bad guy gets behind it. I thought it was just 'movie stuff', I had no idea it was an actual tactical advantage of the F-14. Super cool!

    • @Altair885
      @Altair885 2 роки тому +5

      Or maybe it was properganda, these sorts of films had a habit of finding there way into the hand of potential enemies😁.

    • @jg3000
      @jg3000 2 роки тому

      I think this is just gun fighting.

    • @ZeroRaven87
      @ZeroRaven87 Рік тому +7

      Verticle maneuvers (Boom and Zoom) have been used by US aircraft since atleast WWII. Dogfighting against tighter turning aircraft (like F6F vs A6M) requires different tactics.

    • @cleekmaker00
      @cleekmaker00 Рік тому +16

      It's all about Energy vs. Airspeed. Boom and Zoom to gain separation, then use the Energy to build up Airspeed and re-engage.

    • @R281
      @R281 Рік тому +4

      I think it's because the F-14 climbs faster.

  • @roninjedi2494
    @roninjedi2494 5 років тому +45

    I used to watch this documentary over and over again as a kid, can’t believe I found this! So much nostalgia

    • @johncoats898
      @johncoats898 Рік тому

      Same here. I got it as a birthday present when I turned 9 yrs old. O watched it so often that I memorized it. I still own the VHS tape, and it is still in good condition. (Yes, I still own a working VCR).

  • @LERobbo
    @LERobbo Рік тому +11

    The F-14 Tomcat holds a very special place in my heart. As a young boy I was able to identify them from a distance, name its vital parts, same for the F-16.
    Pinnacle of which was my mother giving me a large scale model to build, still remember the day, now over 40 years ago.

    • @geemanbmw
      @geemanbmw 10 місяців тому +2

      Nice 👍🏼

  • @johncoats898
    @johncoats898 4 роки тому +43

    I immediately recognized this from the screen shot advertising the video. I have this entire video on a VHS I got back when I was 9 yrs old and fell in love with US Fighters, especially the F-14. I still have the VHS, and it still works. The name of the film is 'Top Gun Aces' and yes, I have this entire thing memorized. Thanks for sharing. Good memories from my childhood.

  • @jpp0901
    @jpp0901 2 роки тому +23

    This is so beautiful hearing these pilots explain ACM! Like a game of chess!

  • @mitchjohnson9240
    @mitchjohnson9240 4 місяці тому +1

    These guys are ultra confident and know their stuff! No passive aggressive behavior or political correctness. How refreshing!

  • @RobHouse.69
    @RobHouse.69 Рік тому +13

    I love these old jets, the rugged cockpits and bodies just looks so timeless

  • @spionsilver9626
    @spionsilver9626 3 роки тому +136

    love the way they explained the "loaded wing and the power-advantages of the F-14 over the highly maneuverable smaller jets
    robust , reliable and forgiving
    the F-14 was superior to most jets of that time but they needed the pilots to actually learn , trust and use all of its potential ..

    • @andretempler
      @andretempler 2 роки тому +3

      Those smaller jets with those stubby wings are not really more maneuverable.

    • @leechowning2712
      @leechowning2712 Рік тому +3

      @@andretempler not intended to be more maneuverable. Designed just like the newest 22 and 35, to be high-speed high energy platforms. It was her ability to slow all the way down and still be fully maneuverable that made the 14 terrifying. It even got its own spot in the movie. I'll pop the brakes and he'll fly right on by. That's exactly what they're talking about here, where the aircraft is simply guaranteed to be able to keep maneuverable even after coming to a complete halt.

    • @jasonbrown3632
      @jasonbrown3632 Рік тому +1

      Not most just...all jets and even today...

    • @spionsilver9626
      @spionsilver9626 Рік тому +1

      @@jasonbrown3632 today the Tomcat would probabbly struggle with modern jets when it comes to dogfighting .. id still have her going in "my airforce just because .. reasons .. !

    • @spionsilver9626
      @spionsilver9626 Рік тому +3

      @@leechowning2712 truely terrifying part of the tomcat was her powerful radar , the extreme RIO workload and that AIM-54

  • @nathanieixanthe5207
    @nathanieixanthe5207 Рік тому +5

    As a retired german F-4 Pilot my eyes filled with tears by watching this doku..

    • @twentytwo138
      @twentytwo138 Рік тому

      You copied the same comment from 3 years ago?

  • @markirons3838
    @markirons3838 Рік тому +2

    RIP Peter Thomas, one of the great voices of narration...

  • @TwistedSisterHaratiofales
    @TwistedSisterHaratiofales 6 років тому +43

    Ah my 2 favorite planes. The F4 and the F14. worked on both at Miramar and on 2 aircraft carriers.

    • @karelpgbr
      @karelpgbr Рік тому

      Ohh that sounds cool!

    • @TwistedSisterHaratiofales
      @TwistedSisterHaratiofales Рік тому

      @@karelpgbr Yea, LOL I loved working on the Aircraft, and I loved being on carriers. I should have stayed in the Navy but I crossed over into the Army to fly Apachee Helicopters, but ended up on M1 Tanks.

  • @shannonnezul4903
    @shannonnezul4903 5 років тому +412

    Anyone else "studying" for some DCS Tomcat?

    • @jonnie2bad
      @jonnie2bad 5 років тому +19

      studying how to snap off aim 9X's when you light burners to go vertical :D

    • @spcjohnson805
      @spcjohnson805 5 років тому +17

      If only the RIO cockpit gauges and dials looked as clean as this video, then VR would be a trail in remembering every single control by memory.

    • @bleedinggumsroberts3579
      @bleedinggumsroberts3579 5 років тому +7

      NO!

    • @Devil-mn3dc
      @Devil-mn3dc 4 роки тому +2

      LOL YES!

    • @Raptorman456
      @Raptorman456 4 роки тому +2

      Shannonnezul Yessir!

  • @paulmorris6177
    @paulmorris6177 2 роки тому +17

    There's an old joke in the military that you can date yourself by the equipment that you've seen come and go. Radios, planes, helos, uniforms, etc...I joined the Marines in the 80's and retired in 2013. I went through calling in CAS with PRC-77's and A-4's at Camp Pendleton to ending with F-18's and 117's at Lejeune...and everything in-between. It was a good run, Semper Fi...

    • @andrebredell3293
      @andrebredell3293 2 роки тому +1

      I totally envy you. I also joined in 79 and retired in 2012. I ended up with an ANGLICO unit and never got a chance to call CAS all by myself. Semper Fi Mac

    • @jamesbradley2301
      @jamesbradley2301 2 роки тому +1

      How does that work with B 52s!!

    • @paulmorris6177
      @paulmorris6177 2 роки тому +3

      @@jamesbradley2301 I remember when the B-52 was a PROTOTYPE!!

    • @karelpgbr
      @karelpgbr Рік тому

      Wow that’s a long stint! Nice one mate

  • @willusa2927
    @willusa2927 4 роки тому +27

    Can you imagine if they built a brand new F-14 in 20/20 how badass that plan would be

    • @fmcgraugh2
      @fmcgraugh2 Рік тому +2

      @marko not a variable sweep wing design though

    • @TeenWithACarrotIDK
      @TeenWithACarrotIDK Рік тому +1

      @marko they are different fighters, similar roles, but by no means the same. Will USA is talking about an actual new f14.

  • @terrymask8430
    @terrymask8430 Рік тому +1

    My dad passed away in June he was stationed at top gun Miramar California I use to hear how much fun it was for him. He loves it. Of course it was during Vietnam wich was sad but he loved it there brought tears to me watching this he told me of captains that would fly a plane if it was held together with barn wire lol good group of me God bless

  • @mystinger72
    @mystinger72 7 років тому +39

    Dude, the beginning of this is like PORN for a Phantom Fan like me!!!

    • @steveowens913
      @steveowens913 4 роки тому +1

      I arrived at a phantom squadron in Nov of 1969 for 2 years as a maintenance 'wizard. ' I knew that my squadron had returned from Vietnam just one year sooner but nobody really talked about it. Over 50 years later I finally learned that we were, along with our sister squadron crushed with casualties and fatalities from the get-go. God do I wish we could have saved our guys with the 'top gun '.....fighter weapons school sooner. RIP, men of VF-102 and VF-33.

  • @CodyRedskin
    @CodyRedskin 5 років тому +48

    The F14 Tomcat still sexy af, Will always be loving these birds...

  • @fenny1578
    @fenny1578 5 років тому +36

    DCS bois in here now, look out

  • @fourfortyroadrunner6701
    @fourfortyroadrunner6701 4 роки тому +14

    USN 68--74, ETR-2, NAS Miramar, 70-74. Maintained GCA RADAR and TACAN. Our shop was out behind the "bore sight range" building near Q6 N of the high speed taxiway. Great place to be back then, got to see all kinds of aircraft. Had a part time job at the auto hobby shop.

  • @chrisrcarraher8800
    @chrisrcarraher8800 Рік тому +4

    I remember seeing an airshow at Miramar about 20 years ago and the F-14 demonstrated all those maneuvers they discussed. One of the most impressive was when the pilot did an ultra slow speed pass. I didn't think a jet that big could do that.

  • @jonasthemovie
    @jonasthemovie 3 роки тому +10

    I´ve heard the F4 was smoky, but never seen it like in this video. That thing is chimney with wings.

  • @macworks9389
    @macworks9389 2 роки тому +11

    I was at Miramar in VF-161 the day the first F-14 showed up to VF-124. Some familiar faces in the movie and I just want to say, can you believe how long our hair, sideburns and mustaches were back then??? Zumwalt grooming for sure!!!

    • @macworks9389
      @macworks9389 2 роки тому

      @marko no enlisted hair mustaches and sideburns were the same then as these guys. stop trying to divide.

  • @zzzzzzz7029
    @zzzzzzz7029 Рік тому +6

    Their training briefings were absolutely amazing. Supreme knowledge building up supreme confidence.

  • @blacksilvercompany2377
    @blacksilvercompany2377 Рік тому +3

    I'm proud to say my little Brother was one of these great pilots at Miramar and flew for the United States Navy ,It is amazing to me even just thinking about it simply amazing.

  • @semco72057
    @semco72057 7 років тому +78

    Those principles taught for the F-14's still apply with the F-18's and F-35's. The crews flying the modern aircraft still have to learn how to maneuver their airplanes where they can catch the enemy off guard, and shoot them down.

    • @Jimbo-in-Thailand
      @Jimbo-in-Thailand 4 роки тому +8

      @Sidney Mathious - LOL I seriously doubt the 1970s-designed decent but mediocre performing F/A-18 would stand a snowball's chance in tropical Bangkok against the F-14 in a guns-only one-on-one shootout! And I would personally LMAO if an Iranian F-14 shot down a stubby F-35 in the same one-on-one guns only contest!

    • @jamesalexander3547
      @jamesalexander3547 2 роки тому +6

      @@Jimbo-in-Thailand smfh.. The tomcat is a capable plane but if it beats either the f18 or the f35 it's because of piolet error.

    • @Jimbo-in-Thailand
      @Jimbo-in-Thailand 2 роки тому +3

      @@jamesalexander3547 Sorry, we'll just have to agree to disagree. At best, other than newer avionics, the 1970s design F-18 always has been a truly mediocre performer, like I mentioned. In original comparison flight tests, the F-16 flew rings around it. The F-16 was not only more maneuverable, but IIRC faster as well. The only reason the Navy chose the F-18 over the F-16 was because it sports 2 engines, so gives a bit of redundancy. And the absolutely laughable super pork barrel F-35, also in a guns-only 1-on-1 contest, would be rapidly dispensed with by the larger faster but highly maneuverable swing-wing F-14. Of course, in a BVR contest stealthiness wins the day.
      Cheers from Thailand!

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 2 роки тому +2

      @@Jimbo-in-Thailand YF-17 looked better in all the metrics before they took them both out to Nevada to exploit against the MiG-21. YF-17 was a hot rod of a fighter that had excellent climb rate, ITR, STR, and superior post-stall maneuvering to any fighter at the time.
      YF-16 from defensive position could reverse a bit better, had a deceptive oblique profile, and was hard to detect in visual when slick, plus it shared the F100 motor with the existing F-15 fleet for economy of scale. It was also easier to sustain g with the 30° reclined seat.
      Both of them flew circles around the MiG-21, could out-climb and out-turn it. The YF-16 & YF-17 were never flown against each other in BFM.
      Navalized variants of each were explored, and the YF-17 was easier to navalize with heavier gear, folding wings, and had a lower landing speed due to the wing configuration and LERXs.
      YF-17 & F/A-18 is capable of fighting one-circle better than the YF-16/F-16. F-16 makes its money in the 2 circle fight since it likes to stay fast.

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 2 роки тому +11

      @@Jimbo-in-Thailand F-35s have been humiliating F-16s, Hornets, and Super Hornets for years now in BFM. The Dutch former F-16 pilots who converted to F-35A gave a great interview of how they dominated F-16C Aggressors out of Nellis for a week straight several years ago.
      The Aggressor Vipers showed up Day 1 with 2x370gal EFTs, having heard about the initial test report of F-35A AF-2, which was never produced. Production F-35As are thousands of pounds lighter, while having unrestricted flight control laws relative to AF-2 when it was 4g limited.
      They got beat repeatedly Day 1, so Day 2, they showed up with centerline 300gal tanks...still got beat more than not.
      This went on all week until they had stripped the F-16s of any external tanks to try to even it out, which helped a bit, but they still weren't dominant.
      During de-brief, the Viper drivers asked where the F-35s went after their BFM sorties. The Dutch said they were carrying GBUs the whole time and went out to practice drops in the Nellis training ranges after doing BFM because they had plenty of fuel and time.
      F-35A with 2x GBU LGBs, 2xAIM-120s, 2xAIM-9X is more maneuverable with much longer legs than an F-16C with no bombs.
      And none of that matters because a WVR fight would start with all-aspect AIM-9X. WVR fight wouldn't happen anyway because the F-16's sensor suite can't detect F-35s at BVR.

  • @stevencarrier2466
    @stevencarrier2466 5 років тому +18

    Those were the days...

  • @VVK5W
    @VVK5W 2 роки тому +4

    Absolutely one of the best looking birds to ever grace the sky. If you've never seen one in person, find a static display somewhere. These birds are massive! The A4 looks like a toy sitting next to a F14.

  • @rickwilliamson9248
    @rickwilliamson9248 4 роки тому +19

    Not a single Tom Cruise look-alike in the entire thing. Love it!

    • @emenesu
      @emenesu 2 роки тому

      How is that good lol

    • @rickwilliamson9248
      @rickwilliamson9248 2 роки тому

      @@emenesu Not the biggest Cruise fan. I think he's highly overrated.

    • @Maximusg400
      @Maximusg400 Рік тому

      @@rickwilliamson9248 he’s a great actor but he’s not the best lmao. You’re just way in over your head lmao

  • @alexanderzerka8477
    @alexanderzerka8477 2 роки тому +5

    Man, they knew how to get great footage back then.

  • @hopedaddy907
    @hopedaddy907 Рік тому +7

    Amazing. Not only some great footage (especially for that time), but actually explains stuff too. Of course, nowadays there are lots of fighters with big engines and low wing loadings so the recipe for victory isn't quite the same. But an interesting reminder of how fighters of this generation changed the rules of dogfighting.

  • @antone1azet
    @antone1azet 5 років тому +26

    I love F-14. However, in the part where the instructor is saying that T-38 can't keep up with F-14, my only thought was: "T-38 can't but MiG-29 or Su-27 sure as hell can and will!"
    I understand that T-38 was to simulate MiG-21 type of aircraft of the era, but in the 80's, those were being replaced already.

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite 5 років тому +15

      They had syllabi for any aircraft the crews were likely to meet.
      A guest lecturer once was the MiG pilot who defected, bringing his plane to Japan.
      Some classes even got to mock dogfight with P-51s and a F4U Corsair!

    • @gold333
      @gold333 4 роки тому +10

      antone1 I think that’s why this video is unclassified and “those” lessons you mention were never publically released. Add to that that this docu is more of a military advertisement for US firepower rather than a real documentary.

    • @pctshooter
      @pctshooter 3 роки тому +4

      @@KutWrite but that defector was in a MiG-25. It was nowhere as maneuverable but, the brute force of those engines though might allow it to get out of trouble if it didn't have to worry about missiles.

    • @265justy
      @265justy 2 роки тому +3

      The F-16N was coming on stream to simulate the Mig-29 and SU-27..And remember the F-16 was the most manoverable fighter in the world during the 80s and early 90s..

    • @shrimpflea
      @shrimpflea Рік тому +1

      By the 1980's they had actual MiGs and Su aircraft for this testing.

  • @Woody-nc1ru
    @Woody-nc1ru 5 років тому +26

    I caught myself intensely concentrating on what instruction the pilots were giving, like I was going to take off with them. Chuckle, why is that?!?!😁

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite 5 років тому +5

      It's captivating.

    • @rinzler9775
      @rinzler9775 2 роки тому

      Maybe you were there in previous life but bought the farm in the sky.

    • @Woody-nc1ru
      @Woody-nc1ru 2 роки тому

      @@rinzler9775 😁 never know???

    • @awesomeagnihotrisvlog
      @awesomeagnihotrisvlog Рік тому

      Likewise mate 😅

  • @emeraldaisle2927
    @emeraldaisle2927 3 місяці тому +2

    Real pilots. Real men. Navy Professionals. Won't find Kenny Loggin's song here.

  • @jinzhang8241
    @jinzhang8241 4 роки тому +3

    PETER THOMAS!!!! I listened to the narrator voice of this documentary then I kept thinking his voice matches that Paul Hardcastle song on the Vietnam War,
    19." Awesome narrator, WW2 veteran - Thanks Peter!!!

  • @robertrouse470
    @robertrouse470 Рік тому +3

    Many thanks to all the brave Military Aviators out there in the Tube. Hard to imagine where would we be without you magnificent men & women and your flying machines💯

  • @asasial1977
    @asasial1977 Рік тому +4

    Its amazing how slow they can go.
    Watched one track and follow a small plane towing a banner around a concert venue.
    Here was this tiny plane in comparison to the F14.
    The F14 was going so slow you would swear it was going to fall out of the sky.
    I worked on aircraft in the military, saw hundreds of aircraft in the sky even onboard several, and it amazed me to watch that.

  • @solarverse140
    @solarverse140 Рік тому

    I GREW UP WITH THE F-14! AS A YOUNG KID GROWING UP IN RANCHO PENASQUITOS, WHICH IS A STONE'S THROW FROM MIRA MESA. IT WAS LITERALLY A AIR SHOW EVERY SINGLE DAY. THEN I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SEEING THEM AT THE MIRAMAR AIR SHOW. THE F-14 WAS AND IS A AMAZING AIRCRAFT. AMAZING!!!! 1

  • @fernandoreynaaguilar1438
    @fernandoreynaaguilar1438 4 роки тому +3

    This is Gold, Jerry! Gold!

  • @simcaptainrik
    @simcaptainrik Рік тому +3

    Very cool. The Tomcat was one of my all-time favorite military birds. One thing I noticed, I entered the AF in 1978 and the pilot's and instructor's hair and sideburns didn't look very much in regulation. Maybe the Navy's code for Dress & Personal Appearance was a tad different. Thanks for sharing. I still love flying today.

  • @rickrhoads6113
    @rickrhoads6113 2 роки тому +3

    The instructor in the orange flight suit is Mike "Mauler" Guenther. He was a pilot in the VF-111 1971-72 WestPac. I was a TS/FC same cruisse.

  • @StoryboardMindset
    @StoryboardMindset 6 років тому +4

    That was fun to watch. Thank you for the upload.

  • @zabercrombie24
    @zabercrombie24 4 роки тому +2

    I had this on VHS, what a gem . I wish I still had all my old VHS, I had some you cant find today .

  • @pablobuenomendoza9599
    @pablobuenomendoza9599 2 роки тому +3

    Just watched some behind the scenes film about Top Gun: Maverick. This is very educational.

  • @c2dvr
    @c2dvr 6 років тому +7

    The Fighting Checkmates of VF-211 flying the F-14A/B. Was support crew non flight designation from 1991 to 1994.Best command I ever had.

    • @PeriscopeFilm
      @PeriscopeFilm  6 років тому +1

      Thanks for your service to our great nation.

    • @petersenclan4
      @petersenclan4 4 роки тому

      What shop sir? I went on PAC in 93.

    • @EdgemanLL2
      @EdgemanLL2 4 роки тому

      We may have crossed paths. I was 124 hardcore, then later at 114.

  • @DIYBFF123
    @DIYBFF123 4 роки тому +6

    Damn! two of the worlds most beautiful aircraft!

  • @rw3008
    @rw3008 4 місяці тому

    I was stationed at VF-124 '74-'77 and worked on the Tomcats shown in this. Makes me nostalgic...

  • @SlimRhyno
    @SlimRhyno 4 роки тому +22

    That was awesome! Thank you, Periscope Films, for preserving knowledge such as this for the generation of fighter pilots to follow mine. This type of information will always be relevant... even when we start having dogfights in space! hah

  • @georgesykes394
    @georgesykes394 2 роки тому +3

    Love the Orange flight suits looks very professional 👌

  • @rickyquinteros7100
    @rickyquinteros7100 11 місяців тому +1

    2:01 Hey, that’s the livery I’m painting for my F-14A model kit!

  • @triple6758
    @triple6758 2 роки тому +2

    What a beast the Tomcat is. Probably my favorite of all.

  • @nomojoho2920
    @nomojoho2920 2 роки тому +4

    I was an AT2 briefly assigned to the Top Gun flight line in early 1973. I remember seeing an F-14 behind a partially open hangar door with an armed Marine guarding it. Arthur Godfrey was looking at it for some reason....

  • @KutWrite
    @KutWrite 5 років тому +11

    TOPGUN* got a lot more interesting and well funded before it got absorbed into Strike-U at Fallon.
    I did their training videos and oversaw a support contractor at Miramar from 1987 - 1991. It was a memorable experience.
    (* "TOPGUN" - all caps, was the squadron - the movie was "Top Gun" )

  • @briankeirns9936
    @briankeirns9936 Рік тому

    Just like the rest of the commenters, I’ve watched more than my fair share of combat aircraft/air combat documentaries. I have to say this is by far one the best I’ve seen and it’s from the 70’s. Excellent footage of debriefs and inflight/in cockpit. It is much better than the fluff stuff we get today. It shows the professionalism of the pilots and instructors. I wish this was the standard. I have loved the F-14 since I was a kid and it’s impressive to see how capable it really was. Finally, as a retired Air Force jet troop I gotta get a dig in on a pilot, 15:03 good job sir, that’s a tire…you nailed it….

  • @Roddy556
    @Roddy556 Рік тому

    One exceptional aspect of this documentary is how well they match the footage to the commentary. Most documentaries are "The F-18 is fast..." while rolling a clip of the space shuttle or something.

  • @andrejmucic5003
    @andrejmucic5003 4 роки тому +5

    Very interesting, and informative. Way better than Top Gun!

  • @godssunsonjbp777sodomitesl5
    @godssunsonjbp777sodomitesl5 6 років тому +8

    Am u.s. navy ordinance man,was stationed at miramar 1982-83 vf124 twin tail tommies.

  • @trapcattraptrapcattrap4976
    @trapcattraptrapcattrap4976 2 роки тому

    awesome...later the "fighting your watch" turned into models. The board work looks exactly the same with a few additions for climbing or descending maneuvers....GREAT stuff.

  • @chiefbobdavis99
    @chiefbobdavis99 2 роки тому +1

    Whoa! Haven’t seen this film in 30+ yrs! 🤙🏼

  • @fourfortyroadrunner6701
    @fourfortyroadrunner6701 7 років тому +5

    USN ETR-2, 68-74. Stationed NAS Miramar, 70-74, maintained GCA RADAR and TACAN. Had two AN/FPN-36 QUAD RADAR and FPN-52 on hardstand. Great duty back then had part time job at auto hobby shop

    • @PeriscopeFilm
      @PeriscopeFilm  7 років тому +2

      Thanks for your service to our great nation.

    • @davebeard4135
      @davebeard4135 4 роки тому

      I was there 78-80 USN ET3. Yup, I had TACAN, same radars, and that FPN-52(pretty sure) where we spent too much time. Also, pulling 24 hr duty at the "office" when the Santa Ana winds were blowing and the takeoffs were way too close to the bunk beds...

  • @luengovic
    @luengovic 8 років тому +7

    great film....
    que tremenda nave el TomCat !!

  • @rbastardo7751
    @rbastardo7751 Рік тому

    Thanks for the Documental, it's just excellent

  • @GmailNexus
    @GmailNexus Рік тому +1

    Awesome Footage! Thank you for conservation.

    • @PeriscopeFilm
      @PeriscopeFilm  Рік тому

      Thanks very, very much. Donations like this make it possible for us to save more rare and endangered films!
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  • @RichardHowie
    @RichardHowie 4 роки тому +7

    They should not have retired the F 14 and should have built a Super TomCat!

    • @CrazyChemistPL
      @CrazyChemistPL 3 роки тому +1

      They did. F-14D, the final version, was called the Super Tomcat.
      But in essence I agree. Airframe still had a ton of potential left in it. From simple tweaks like changing the windshield from the three-pane design to Hornet-style one piece windshield, through AIM-120 and AIM-9X integration which would've been only natural to possible more complex changes like greater usage of composites in construction plus maybe integrating the LANTRIN pod to free up the hardpoint usually taken by it. Most of the digital upgrades which are about the only edge Hornet has over Tomcat in terms of performance should've been possible too. The problem was that Tomcat was just more expensive and in the post Cold War environment, more economic Hornet was deemed good enough. Employing just a single plane type on aircraft carrier is also sensible in terms of parts commonality. Not to mention Hornet is (now) a Boeing product and that carries government support.
      Having said all of that, I do also think that, while in general the concept is obsolescent, variable sweep wing still has merit for a carrier aircraft. It provides benefits both in terms of aircraft handling (lowering the landing speed without sacrificing high speed performance) and storage (the so called "oversweep" feature of the Tomcat, rather than foldable wing sections like on virtually any other modern carrier aircraft which may result in slightly decreased structural integrity/increased weight).

    • @shrimpflea
      @shrimpflea Рік тому

      Great aircraft but all things must pass. Died a natural death.

  • @kimarykorlumiose7728
    @kimarykorlumiose7728 2 роки тому +3

    1:52 oh wow you can even see the old glove vanes they used to have

  • @rtheprizeisright7323
    @rtheprizeisright7323 Рік тому

    Great video for 47 year old kid, who grew up loving the F-14, b/c of Top-gun, but I will admit, my 1st love was the F-16, b/c of Iron Eagle that came out 6 months earlier. The 1st scene, in both movies, make you want to be a fighter pilot. I only hope, today's youth, is as enthusiastic as my youth was, about the jet's and flying. The carrier 1st scene, of the Tomcat going to full afterburners, and being catapulted off of a carrier; and the 1st scene, of Iron Eagle, with the 2-F-16's just cruising above the, or within the clouds. I was like that's has to be the greatest job in the world.

  • @yogi9631
    @yogi9631 2 роки тому

    A fantastic doco 👍👍👍👍
    I love these old school doco's

  • @TheDustoff9
    @TheDustoff9 3 роки тому +3

    I wanna hear more of the classroom x’s & O’s. Love to see a full brief

  • @tombrunila2695
    @tombrunila2695 6 років тому +6

    Great video! And notice the hair of these Top Gun pilots!

  • @coldwarveteran4239
    @coldwarveteran4239 4 місяці тому

    I was there late spring 1976 at VF-124 for TF-30 CERT class. For 2 weeks between classes, I was TAD to the civilians for the ACMR pods. Every morning I would drive 4 PODs out to the flight line. Then go back out evert afternoon to pick them up. I spent a lot of time reading books in between. I then went to AIMD Jet shop on CV-67. By my last deployment I was running the Jet engine Test Cell. Zone 5 on the testbed at night was a beautiful site. It was great to be part of that history. After they were sundowner, any not stripped of tech and in a museum were shredded to keep the tech away from Iran and China.

  • @GoViking933
    @GoViking933 2 роки тому

    Really enjoyed this, great footage 👍🏼

  • @TheCraigHudson
    @TheCraigHudson 4 роки тому +6

    Currently 3/4 away through Top Gun book by Dan Pederson who created top gun for the navy pilots as during Vietnam an all to reliance on missile pilots didn’t know what to do when they exhausted all their missiles and had to dog fight ... really good book.

    • @thehobbyshop5306
      @thehobbyshop5306 2 роки тому

      One thing about that, the F4 had no guns at all when they were sent to war. Later on they slung a gun pod underneath but it was hardly ideal.

    • @chriswilder9393
      @chriswilder9393 Рік тому

      Scream of eagles, I read it 7 times before I graduated high school in 1999. Loved that book!

    • @matjj676
      @matjj676 Рік тому

      Reading it now. Fantastic book!

  • @f38stingray
    @f38stingray 4 роки тому +12

    I love how the instruction all basically sums up as:
    "You've got every advantage and no disadvantages. This will be like clubbing baby seals. Any questions?"
    Student: "What if he tries to do something?"
    Instructor: "Not possible. Your jet is way too powerful."
    The F-14 was a beast.

  • @epicryder8119
    @epicryder8119 2 роки тому +2

    4:53 That guy is actually Goose irl

  • @Jeffei-qs7kp
    @Jeffei-qs7kp 8 місяців тому

    Very proud when our best of friends and close allies use our stuff so skillfully. Heard some tales of German Phantoms taking advantage of the glorious flying weather of Southern New Mexico. Thanks for helping us win the Coldwar.

  • @nh6central
    @nh6central 4 роки тому +9

    Check out: :"Top Gun - The Real Story" by Cpt. Dan Pederson (on Audible and Amazon). The first CO that (with his bros) set up the school 50 years ago.

  • @samuelhutchison3374
    @samuelhutchison3374 4 роки тому +8

    Great video, you really have to appreciate that era for its rapid advancement in aeronautics, avionics and systems. I couldn't help but notice a suspiciously wavering "remove before flight" tag near the nose gear at 4.40 however 🙈

    • @Gulfstreamer
      @Gulfstreamer 2 роки тому +1

      I just noticed that too and I was looking through the comments to see if anyone else noticed as well! 😳

    • @sharkattack3524
      @sharkattack3524 Рік тому

      Hahaa nice catch

  • @georgislavov8130
    @georgislavov8130 Рік тому

    1:38 is pure beauty!The Skyhawk taking off at the start is also very cool!US aircraft are awesome,much ❤ to 🇺🇸 from Bulgaria!

  • @peterdwyer4609
    @peterdwyer4609 2 роки тому +2

    Damn the instructers are that good they can see into the futre.this is awsome

  • @georgemorley1029
    @georgemorley1029 6 місяців тому +3

    This footage makes Top Gun Maverick look like the glorified video game it really is. Witness real aircraft, real men, real footage.

  • @SUP_Bigans
    @SUP_Bigans 4 роки тому +20

    A piece of Art and Technology too early put down by Cheney's burocracy.

    • @klausschreyer7062
      @klausschreyer7062 3 роки тому +5

      You can say that again
      Cheney I Never trusted that Creep.

    • @matty82003
      @matty82003 2 роки тому +1

      Luciodon anche tu qui! Come darti torto...

    • @SUP_Bigans
      @SUP_Bigans 2 роки тому +1

      @@matty82003 Eh sì 😉 quando presi il Tomcat di DCS venni qui dall'istruttore Topgun ad istruirmi su come non prenderle dai mig 29 e dai su 27/33!!! Ciao

  • @AllanWhite
    @AllanWhite 2 роки тому

    Fantastic explainer of basic air combat tactics. The classroom explanations of energy state are simple & brilliant.

  • @gunstargizmo
    @gunstargizmo Рік тому

    This was my favorite plane as a kid. They were not only an amazing fighter, the white/grey colour scheme fit like a glove. They'll never be like that again.